Career & Work Life
289 episodes · 2018–2021 · 110 debates · 170 pieces of advice · 272 stories · 281 quotes
The Daily Talk Show — Australia’s daily podcast, hosted by Tommy Jackett and Josh Janssen — discussed career & work life across 289 of its 1,022 daily episodes between 2018 and 2021. This page collects what was actually said: 281 verbatim quotes, 170 pieces of advice, 272 stories told on air, 110 on-air debates, each linked to the exact moment in the episode and on YouTube.
Where they stand
Moments where the table disagreed, straight from the transcripts.
Believes great books are almost always fiction because non-fiction books let you get the gist quickly and lose steam, whereas fiction takes you away and teaches you about yourself.
Tends to read non-fiction (e.g., Lost Connections, a book about water) but often stops partway through once he feels he's gotten the main point.
Committees can become 'potentially destructive and ineffective if not done correctly,' with vocal minorities gaining disproportionate power over company direction.
Acknowledges the value of having a defined decision-making group but notes most people only object after a decision is made rather than contributing beforehand.
Argues a parking fine is far less annoying than having a car towed, since a fine can be paid quietly without the owner knowing, while towing is immediately stressful and intrusive.
Agrees towing is worse, recalling he was relieved to get a big fine rather than have his car towed from a keep-clear zone.
Argues that looking at people's visible wealth markers is often a 'poor man's mindset' because it ignores how that wealth was actually obtained (e.g., generational wealth) and isn't a true indicator of success.
Counters that looking at others' net worth/success can also be a legitimate driver or motivator for some people, so it's not purely negative.
weddings
Ep 100016:50Not a big fan of weddings, viewing them as largely repetitive and a waste of money, despite having had one himself at a chimney/fireplace shop.
Also says he's 'not a huge fan' of weddings, aligning with Jack's view.
Felt school held him back and dropped out; believes some people thrive in systems that match a pre-existing passion (like NCAT students), but he didn't have that and preferred to learn on the ground via informal work and short courses.
Sees value in structured systems like trade school or university-adjacent research paths (psychology, organisational research) even if uncertain, while acknowledging growing ambiguity in career paths for young people today.
Women elaborate more on details and feelings in conversation, while men want to get to the solution quickly and move on.
Agrees that his interest level drops once conversations get into small details, preferring to move on quickly.
Criticises the documentary for deliberately withholding the missing woman's bipolar diagnosis to build a false murder-mystery narrative, calling it exploitative of her family.
Enjoyed and recommended the documentary despite acknowledging she was in a 'crime thriller headset' when watching it.
whether entrepreneurs get a double standard on 'recklessness' compared to average people
Ep 967▶ 32:51Believes society puts entrepreneurs on pedestals, celebrating risky/reckless financial behavior (like Tesla's near-collapse) as 'innovative,' while an average friend or family member doing the same thing would be criticized as reckless.
Agrees, adding that the freelance/entrepreneurial lifestyle is often romanticized (e.g., taking a Friday off) while the hidden costs—working weekends, no annual leave, constant uncertainty—go unacknowledged.
Believes there's a real physiological and cultural difference (women running cooler, offices historically set for male executives) that fuels workplace aircon conflict.
Prefers the office cool and uses a remote app to control it, acknowledging this inconveniences colleagues like Jess who then feel overdressed, but says he'd be fine without heating in winter by wearing jumpers.
Calling out someone else's weight gain directly is outrageous and inappropriate.
It can be acceptable if you're joking about your own weight gain, framing it as self-deprecation rather than attacking others.
Performing doesn't seem that hard compared to physical labour, which he finds genuinely difficult; he questions whether acting deserves its reputation for difficulty.
Acting is very hard, especially making it look effortless (citing Tom Cruise), and pay/pressure in high-stakes professions like acting, surgery, or oil rig work correlates with actual risk or difficulty.
Advice from the show
all 170pieces →What was actually said, attributed and linked to the moment.
Is it appropriate to give a card to someone who was made redundant?
Jess Lucas suggests it's not typically appropriate to give cards for redundancy and that an official letter might be a nicer gesture instead.
How can you simplify decision-making around habits like drinking?
Removing an option entirely (e.g., not drinking at all) eliminates the need to weigh choices in the moment, reducing the number of things you have to think about.
Should businesses offer perks like gym memberships to staff?
Rather than dictating perks like gym memberships (which imply control over employees' personal choices), consider giving staff the equivalent cash value and letting them decide how to spend it, which better respects their autonomy.
What's the etiquette for escalating a prank war?
Tommy argues pranks work like 'compound interest' — a retaliatory prank needs to be bigger than the original to actually cancel it out, otherwise the score isn't settled.
What should you avoid giving a pregnant partner for a sore throat?
Avoid anaesthetic-based mouthwash/gargle products and throat lozenges, as the anaesthetic ingredient is not advised during pregnancy.
Should I quit my job to pursue my passion project?
Tommy says this kind of advice is inherently privileged and context-dependent; he discusses a real conversation where someone wanted to reduce hours to pursue a passion project, noting that generic advice like 'just quit' ignores individual financial runway and circumstances.
How much financial runway do I need before taking a risk on a business or passion project?
Tommy argues that standard startup advice (having months of savings/runway) isn't realistic for most people, and that this advice can become an excuse to avoid pursuing dreams; he notes he and Josh started their business with just $2,000 each and no computer.
How do you avoid needing the bathroom on long-haul flights?
Josh says he avoids drinking much of anything during long flights because he doesn't like having to climb over other passengers to use the bathroom, rather than following typical advice to stay hydrated.
How can you keep experiencing 'fun' or novel moments as you get older?
Josh suggests seeking out new experiences with different people (e.g., playing golf with new people) and trying to reframe everyday moments (like getting up early) as exciting rather than just routine, since the novelty of any new habit fades quickly.
How do you keep going on a long project when the initial excitement fades?
Tommy references a book's idea that every career has ups and downs, and that people often quit when they lose the initial feeling of excitement without realizing that's why they're quitting; the advice is essentially 'don't quit' and recognize there can be multiple 'acts' or phases ahead.
How should office etiquette around bodily functions be handled?
There's no formal rule about burping or similar behavior at work; it comes down to 'reading the room' — acting one way with close colleagues/friends and differently in more public or professional settings.
How do you manage feeling overly hot or agitated before work?
Josh says he tries to stay self-aware about becoming agitated when hot or dehydrated, and will proactively buy water or rely on a smart aircon app to cool the office before he even arrives, to avoid being 'the worst version' of himself.
Should you call out people's weight gain (e.g. 'COVID kilos') publicly?
Tommy argues it's outrageous to call out someone else's weight gain outright, but notes that self-deprecating comments about one's own weight are a different, more acceptable form of self-hate.
Should you buy a mechanical keyboard for an office environment?
Josh and Tommy conclude that while mechanical keyboards feel and sound great, they're inappropriate for shared office spaces because the noise is disruptive to others.
Should you tell your employer before going on a reality show?
Matty recommends being upfront with employers about going on a reality show rather than disappearing, based on his own experience telling his Peugeot manager before leaving.
What foods are acceptable to eat on public transport?
Mason suggests that only easily contained, low-smell snacks like a muesli bar, a bliss ball, or a banana are acceptable to eat on a tram; stronger-smelling foods like mandarins, apples, or cooked chicken should be avoided, especially on a crowded tram.
Where is it generally inappropriate to eat on the job?
Avoid eating in jobs or settings with strong smells or close public-facing contact, such as perfume shops, or in situations involving visible death/dignity concerns like transporting a body, since it comes across as disrespectful or impractical.
What's an easy fallback gift if you're put on the spot?
Everyday household items like an indoor plant, a cushion, or even office supplies can work as a thoughtful-enough last-minute gift if nothing else is available.
How should you manage caffeine withdrawal after quitting coffee?
Josh suggests easing off rather than quitting cold turkey, planning to keep having a couple of cups of tea a day partly for the mental habit of still having some caffeine.
How do you build internal team buy-in for big, ambitious ideas?
Stay connected to the day-to-day front line rather than only operating at a high level, share big ideas incrementally rather than all at once, and consistently link proposed changes back to the organization's unchanging 'true north' so people can see the logic and get on board.
How should leaders balance remote work freedom with team cohesion when returning to a new normal?
Preserve the 'space' for thinking and idea generation gained from remote/distanced work, while also maintaining 'proximity'—frequent connection and unity with the team—since disunity can paralyze a business.
How do you get a project management or productivity tool to actually stick within a team?
The tool needs full adoption—every single team member must interface all of their work through it, not just part of the team, otherwise it fails to become the system of record.
How should you reflect on a decade of your life (like turning 30)?
Spend time reeling off what you're proud of from the decade, then identify things you feel you haven't done or achieved yet, covering work, personal life, and friendships separately.
How do you deal with cravings or urges when quitting something like alcohol or your phone?
Josh frames it as a cost-benefit analysis: removing a habit forces you to sit with uncomfortable feelings rather than escape them, and while both paths are hard, confronting the feelings directly is ultimately more rewarding long-term, even if it doesn't feel that way in the moment.
Stories told on air
Tommy describes being contacted late at night by 'Grumpy Dave' (possibly named Cameron) who offered him a regional radio job, which he took for a two-year stint.
told by Tommy Jackett
George recalls being 7 years old at a New Year's Eve party dressed as Mini-Me from Austin Powers (with his brother as Dr. Evil) during the Y2K celebrations.
told by George Martin
Tommy describes getting Bree a wheel-throwing pottery class at Robert Gordon's for her birthday (after she vetoed golf clubs) and making her a handmade card with metallic markers, contrasting how different people react to homemade gifts.
told by Tommy Jackett
While Tommy was stressed trying to find a hand model for a shoot, GM Jess approached him in the kitchen and hit him in the face with a raw chicken foot, catching him off guard.
told by Tommy Jackett
The Real Story Behind 'Bad Pork Roll'
Ep 100012:49While trying to find why an old episode was called 'Bad Pork Roll,' Josh reveals he and Tommy recorded it after Tommy's Bali trip fell through and Tommy was visibly upset, though the two now aren't sure if the title really referred to food poisoning or just mood.
told by Josh Janssen and Tommy Jackett
Tommy describes laying ant bait in the office kitchen, imagining the ant queen as 'Fat Bastard' waiting to be fed, and feeling oddly sad about wiping out the colony despite it working effectively.
told by Tommy Jackett
Josh recounts how Glenn, a subsistence-living subject on the documentary series, wanted to climb a mountain and hang glide back to his cabin against producers' wishes, did it anyway, and was reportedly not recast for being too risky.
told by Josh Janssen
While trying to confirm the date the show's 1,000th episode will land given the Easter long weekend, the team realises mid-conversation they've miscounted the upcoming episode numbers, causing confusion over whether they're on 92, 93, or further along.
told by Tommy Jackett, Josh Janssen, Jess Lucas, George Martin
Tommy recalls moving out to live with his brother in Windsor for about six months at age 17 while working for his dad doing landscaping, watching Aerobic Oz Style together in the mornings before work.
told by Tommy Jackett
Josh recalls working at the fire brigade on a Christmas episode where a painted raw chicken prop was accidentally left in an oven in a hot warehouse for weeks, creating an overpowering smell similar to the office bin incident.
told by Josh Janssen
Tommy and Josh recount a story about Jason Calacanis, a long-time friend of Elon Musk, who learned Tesla had only days of payroll runway left during the 2008 financial crisis while developing the Model S. Calacanis wrote two $50,000 personal checks to help fund the car's development and ended up as the first official Model S order.
told by Tommy Jackett and Josh Janssen
Josh recounts a grocery trip where an Aldi cashier dropped Jess's mango and let her choose a replacement from two new ones, calling it great service; Jess later complained the mangoes were 'manhandled' and washed them dramatically with a kitchen sponge.
told by Josh Janssen
Tommy discovers a dusty, nearly year-old Australia Post satchel stuffed inside a rarely-opened electrical cabinet at the office entrance. Josh opens it on camera to find it's one of their own show's outgoing mail items (a book and stickers meant for a supporter named Andrew) that had apparently been returned after a mail carrier left it there instead of delivering or leaving a card.
told by Tommy Jackett and Josh Janssen
Tommy recounts being paid to appear on camera in front of a green screen for an app intended to read QR codes, backed by someone who invested about $200K, which ultimately failed as smartphones made the app redundant.
told by Tommy Jackett
Tommy recalls his mum used to fold towels into swan shapes and that he would rearrange his bedroom every few months as a kid to make it feel like a new place, comparing it to living in a hotel.
told by Tommy Jackett
Matty recounts a paparazzo approaching him and Laura about announcing a pregnancy that they had told almost no one about, raising questions about how tabloids get information.
told by Matty
A news story about funeral workers in Kent, England photographed eating McDonald's breakfast with a deceased woman still in the coffin in the hearse, sparking debate about appropriate workplace eating etiquette.
told by Tommy Jackett
Tommy set up a birthday station with a poster and streamers at George's desk and planned a Slack reveal during the morning meeting, but George hadn't checked his email and was unaware anything had been done for him, creating an awkward moment where Tommy had to prompt him to check his inbox.
told by Tommy Jackett and George Martin
In their words
“We fired ourselves and we're having a party for ourselves.”
“That's just like getting an extra chicken nugget and being like, guys, I got you some chicken nuggets in my Macca's order and Fetch is like Foxtel.”
“Basecamp have changed an internal policy and given people the option to take their severance package if they don't agree with their terms of operation.”
“The prank needs to get bigger and bigger as you go, right?”
“That's crazy! We've committed to do The Daily Talk Show for 10 years.”
“They should call me Caramello Koala.”
“Kill the queen, kill the nest.”
“Don't quit golf is what this is saying. Don't quit the show because it's, it's a new thing every day.”
“Generations of parents that didn't communicate with their children, that worked a lot.”
“For those who don't know, I bring the toxic masculinity into the office. I admit it.”
“It's 100% 100% a dead marsupial.”
“It's, it's so underrated to say this stuff out loud.”
“I think it's the operating system most people run on is What am I feeling? Not how's this, how's everyone else first before mine.”
“We've committed to do The Daily Talk Show for 10 years.”
“That's crazy! We've committed to do The Daily Talk Show for 10 years.”
“There's a higher chance of dying on an oil rig than there is of coming to hold— produce a podcast.”
“Keep grateful, guys.”
“You're kind of in this weird, like, no man's land.”