Mr. Mess

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: It's a Daily Talk Show episode 408.

Tommy: What's going on, guys? Happy Monday.

Josh: Peanut butter weekend.

Tommy: Oh, I'm feeling sick because I just— if you're listening to this on today's day, which is Monday the 29th of July, yeah, 2:20 PM, go to our Instagram because I put up an Insta story. 3D deal. I mean, there's a couple of things. I actually forgot something from last Monday's show that I wanted to bring up.

Josh: Was it a blame? Blame Monday?

Tommy: Well, it potentially had the opportunity, it had the potential for it not to be a blame, but now it is a blame. So 3D Deal, you bought some peanut butter. There's been a lot of peanut butter talk around Australia because Woolworths are doing a special, which they do every couple of months or every couple of weeks. Yeah.

Josh: Is it really an Australian thing? I don't know.

Mason: I don't know if it's a big thing.

Tommy: Yes, it is, dude. You fucking idiot. It's a big thing, uh, Molly up in Queensland, all over it. So we've got—

Josh: so the Gronk Squad's into it.

Tommy: Yeah, the Gronk Squad. No, I just think if you eat peanut butter, there's a brand that's epic but it's expensive and it goes half price. And Mr. 97 bought 6 kilograms. I mean, why are you even pushing back on this? You're the guy that bought half of their stock.

Mason: Yeah, well, the store was done after I finished. Like, I actually took all of the things off the shelf.

Josh: Did they say anything? I've done that with—

Mason: no, no, I went through self-checkout to make sure they didn't say anything.

Tommy: Really? You're a bit self-conscious?

Josh: Yeah, yeah, 100%. Conscious checkout.

Tommy: Were you thinking about people looking at you?

Mason: Like, no, well, because I was distracted because I had my AirPods in, I was listening to music, so that was sort of like pushing everyone else who was potentially looking at me out of my head.

Tommy: All right, so, uh, 3D Dill ended up buying a jar and then using— what did you use?

George: Used Tim Tams.

Tommy: And I mean, you didn't use used Tim Tams, you bought Tim Tams and you used it to scoop out peanut butter.

Josh: Isn't it like healthy peanut butter too? Like I guess that's—

Tommy: well, healthy peanut butter, just meaning no added ingredients.

Josh: No shit. Is it good?

Mason: Yeah, no, it's not a health rating.

Tommy: Well, it's got no added sugar.

Mason: It's got no added— it's just peanuts and a bit of salt because there was different versions.

Tommy: Yeah, anyway, there's one's just like a dark, a dark roast.

Josh: That's what I bought. I bought 3 because I couldn't allow you guys to just—

Tommy: yeah, so I bought 3, you then bought 3, Mason bought 6.

Josh: Which one did you buy?

Tommy: I got the dark roast plus the the other crunchy. You're an absolute animal if you eat smoothies.

Josh: You are.

Tommy: Is that dark roasted? That's lovely. Molly's favourite one up in the Gold Coast. Anyway, 3D Deal, you ate a family-sized packet of Tim Tams and a whole jar of that peanut butter by scooping it out. This kid is an absolute freak.

George: Yeah, I am.

Tommy: You're an absolute freak. Last weekend I came in because I was just like, I needed to do a bit of a tidy in the office. I wanted to buy a, like, a dish rack so we could put our dishes up. I just got to the point I just needed to do it and Bodie and I wanted to come in.

Josh: Anyway, did you do the toilet seat?

Tommy: I didn't do the toilet seat. Left that. Why? For you. Left it for you.

Josh: But you are the self-proclaimed handyman.

Tommy: I'm not self-proclaimed, mate. You know it.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: It's not self-proclaimed if you identify.

Josh: If we all know that you're the handyman.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: I mean, think that the toilet seat requires some screws.

Tommy: I'm actually going to throw this over to Dyl because Dyl's quite fucking handy too. He's got his finger back. His thumb's grown back. I bought a whole bunch of like these Oreo things, these Oreo coated in Cadbury.

Josh: So what's the point? The Threaded Eel should have done it.

Tommy: It will get there. And I, and I thought, okay, I'm going to do a bit of a test, see if I can— I'll just leave them on the bench over there. These chocolate— I saw them, they were on special. There were these chocolate Oreos like dipped in Cadbury chocolate. That was sick. And I had a bunch, they were It was so fucking good. And I left a bunch over there on the bench and thought, I'm just gonna leave these here, see if we'll get anyone. And I forgot because they had been taken. And who took them?

Josh: Definitely 3D Tale. How many did you have?

George: There was, there was 2 there and I ate the 2 that were there.

Tommy: I mean, I positioned them just on the desk. I didn't put them up in the cupboard. I positioned them on the desk like, is that an invitation to eat them? 3D Tale?

Josh: I think that—

Tommy: Are you coming into his rescue, asking a question? Are you 3D Dale?

Josh: No, I'm coming to his defence because there's a lot of things going on between '97 eating your avocado, which—

Tommy: Oh no, I gave it to him.

Josh: I know, but then you kept talking about it for days.

Tommy: No, I didn't.

Josh: You gave— you said, man, have the avocado if you want. And then like 2 days later you're like, what are you going to give me for the avocado?

Tommy: I said, I'm calling in the debt. And he said, I got the nuts. I said, no problem, good trade.

Josh: No, but it wasn't like that initially.

Tommy: That's all it was on the same day, dude. I think you're blending days.

Mason: No, it was, it was across. I think it was like a day later or something.

Tommy: But yeah. No, no, no. A day later.

Josh: Dude, I think you're getting mixed up here.

Tommy: No, a day later.

Josh: Dude, dude, Brian.

Tommy: A day later that I called in the favor.

Josh: Yeah, that's what I gave him.

Tommy: But I gave him the avocado and then that was it. I didn't string the, the barter across multiple days.

Josh: Yeah, no, you did.

Tommy: No, I didn't.

Josh: Yeah, you did, dude.

Tommy: No, because when I started fucking talking about it, The point is, Dill's a gronk for eating my fucking Oreos. He's going to be fixing the toilet for us boys, and you're an absolute flog.

George: But to be fair, you left them.

Tommy: But did it have a label on it? No. Did it say, this is for Dill?

George: No.

Tommy: What did it say? Was there any— so was it a gronk move?

George: No, but it's also a communal office, and I figured Josh doesn't need them.

Josh: Mason won't eat them. Josh doesn't need them. The amount of times I've heard that in my life.

Tommy: I didn't know we were fucking this was a halfway house.

Josh: I didn't— communal. Thank you, Dyl, for taking them away because I can't control my own fucking— but just very quickly on the avocado thing, I just want to understand. You're saying—

Tommy: no, you just said it, you made it sound like I was stringing this like, what do you got for me, across 2 days. I gave it to him and then that was it. And then a day later I was a bit hungry, I was like, you know how I gave you that avocado? Like, I was just fucking around. I'd ask you for food anyway, even if I hadn't given you something. And this kid, these kids around here, they're, they've just, it's like they've done sport that morning and they just need to be fed. Like, boys, I want time.

Josh: They're going through puberty.

Tommy: It's like they're going through puberty.

Josh: But the, but the thing is, I feel like the way that it played out, um, was that you were, he was offering different things and you're like, nah, nah, it needs to be more. I feel like there was something before the nuts that you had said no to based on the trade of the avocados.

Tommy: That was the first thing he said, and I was like, oh, that's a fucking good deal. Avocado for nuts in the same sort of fatty range.

Josh: Yeah. I don't know.

Tommy: And then he had a curry that you were getting into, mate. You're fucking the guy who hasn't cooked in his life.

Josh: It was delicious, by the way.

Tommy: Calling out us for having a little barter off. Far out. Anyway, at the supermarket last night, so at Woolworths, they're doing the little toys. These— so they come out with these fucking promo things.

Josh: I've got so many, do you want them? Yeah, maybe Bodhi wants them.

Tommy: So I haven't taken the other ones, these other little dumb gronky toys that would sit in your front thing, but these are Lion King ones. Yeah, and Bodhi loves them, and they're like, they're like little—

Josh: has he seen the real Lion King yet?

Tommy: He hasn't seen The Lion King, he's seen trailers and stuff, but he loves the little toys. Anyway, they're like hot property. I last night at the supermarket, I got like 15 of them. Yes, there's a guy with a fanny pack, like one of the dudes from self-checkout, just like cruising around. He was like the dealer. He looked like a dealer because he had them all in his bum bag over the front. You want some? You want some? Yeah. And he'd come over and fucking give them out to people who were doing big shops.

Josh: Do you know what annoys the fuck out of me about this? There's this, the whole push of plastics, like we can't have like I'm having, which I agree with, whatever. Like, it's good. Like, we need to be doing good stuff for the environment. But it feels like they transitioned from like whatever money they were spending on the plastic bags, they're now putting into making plastic figurines.

Tommy: Don't you think? I know. Amy was talking to her sister about this yesterday. I didn't really want to get involved in the conversation, but I have heard it. Um, look it up, uh, Woolworths toys recyclable. So it was like you bring them back and they're going to use— they can recycle that specific thing for something else. But here's the problem, it's like 7-Eleven, the Gronks, uh, virtueing that they do a, you know, a give back and we're gonna recycle these cups. You gotta go into store, you gotta put it into this small tiny little bin Like, 7-Eleven, when I made that video sort of outing them, yeah, we were saying, yeah, and you should be recycling cups. Like, they even fucking— they went on the virtue, the back foot, and were like, yeah, but you should be recycling cups and all. What do you mean? I don't know, they were like commenting back to my— to what I'd posted, like, and they were trying to get a bit sort of smart about like, yeah, but you should be focusing on recycling. And I went to their store and I videoed I was like, here's why you don't fucking recycle them. And I like panned up on the cup recycle and they're coming out. Other people had brought in different cups from other shops and whacked them in. You could get about 100 cups.

Josh: It doesn't really work, does it?

Tommy: Yeah, it's like— and so these companies, like, they have to be seen to be noting that they will do and put in effort to recycle. Is there anything there?

Mason: Yeah, so they, they take them back and they're recycled into outdoor products like fences and stuff.

Tommy: But who's taking them back? Here's the problem.

Mason: Woolies. You have to take them back to Woolies.

Tommy: Oh yeah, but my kid just chewed them free and I put into the bin. Like that, I'm saying this is what happens, right? You end up throwing this shit out or it'll be at a garage sale in 2 years.

Josh: I got confused between the coffee cup storey and that.

Tommy: Well, I was just checking back in. I was checking back in with Mr. 97.

Josh: No, no, I completely understand.

Tommy: We're fast thinkers around here, mate.

Josh: It's all happening.

Tommy: Keep it fast.

Josh: How was everyone's weekend?

Tommy: Yeah, Bodhi smashed his face on the concrete.

Josh: I know why, because he's going down fucking hills that are too big.

Tommy: No, baby versus baby. It's going to happen. But just because you're embarrassed that you can't do what Bodhi can do, well, I don't make it out.

Josh: I sorted out my wheel on my bike. I put that on.

Tommy: He, um, it wasn't even on a steep bit. He was on the flat and he fell over. Like, this is the thing. He fell over on the flat, smashed his face, bleeding all out his mouth. And I was like, come on, let's go. Let's go home. And he's like, no, I want to stay. So he's crying, he's just like a bit hurt, but he's like, I want to stay. I said, all right, suck it in, like suck the blood in. And he just— and he goes— and then we're like, all right, great. And he got back to it.

Josh: Are you proud? Is there an active effort to create a tough kid, do you think?

Tommy: It's not even tough. Like, I wanted to take him home because he's bleeding and his lip was swollen, and he wanted to stay. I think when you have a child that has no fear, I mean, it's— I love it because it was who I was as a kid. And so you said I'm seeing myself like I was at that same skate park that I took Bodhi to over the weekend. Majority of my childhood, I'd spend 8 hours a day there.

Josh: Do you reckon their parents— I have no idea or sense of this— would parents look at what Bodhi's doing and be like, this is crazy, he shouldn't be doing that?

Tommy: Josh. Atkinson and Molly. Josh, he's been messaging me, what bike did you get him? And so I'm sending him photos about his bike. Then he went and bought him a— bought his little boy a bike over the weekend. So he's out. So there's—

Josh: there's no one— is there anyone who is actively being like, isn't that a bit high for a little boy?

Tommy: Nah, no, no, no. I think people are impressed. People are blown away by him dropping in.

Josh: Do you think that he could be— is it like Tiger Woods territory? Are you developing him to be able to do better?

Tommy: Look, I want him to be— I think kids, you You want them to be across. I want my children, if they want to be, but I'll always encourage. Like, we are the— yeah, we are leading by example. So you try— I want to— if he can be— if he can understand his balance, he'll be the opposite of you when he's older.

Josh: I agree with that.

Tommy: Like, I think it's— this shit's too hard to learn. Like, you to learn surfing and be good at it now, it's so much harder.

Josh: You haven't seen me surf.

Tommy: So much harder. So much harder as you're an adult.

Josh: I can surf.

Tommy: Snowboarding. Like, so if you can get the foundation, like bike riding, skateboarding, and rollerblading, you can get those 3 down.

Josh: Rollerblading I'm good at.

Tommy: You can do most things, like you can ski, you know, you can pick up things much easier. So, but trying to find your centre of gravity as an adult, it's much taller, it's much higher.

Josh: You're gonna teach him the code as well?

Tommy: Oh, definitely. Into computers. And but I see like, it's— he woke up this morning and we gave him a movie last night in Despicable Me. Yeah.

Josh: What do you mean you gave him a movie?

Tommy: We gave him— he was allowed to watch a movie and that's rare. And so he was in bed and he was loving it, just watching it by himself, fucking loving it.

Josh: What was he watching it on?

Tommy: Uh, on a laptop. And so, but he goes feral once you you turn it off, which is bad. So you can see how the easy thing, because he woke up this morning, said movie, movie. It's like he woke up saying that, woke up that, and you could just put him in front of it from the get-go and he would be fine. He would stop screaming. But getting him outside, he just loves as much as the movie, but it just requires effort, right? And so the easy thing's the movie. The hard thing is the time giving, you know, that I have to give, which isn't hard because I love it. But you could see how it can just become fucking annoying. So you do the easy thing. So I think getting him outdoors is what I want. I had a childhood growing up outdoors. It was sick.

Josh: Yeah, no, I think outdoors is awesome. The, um, the idea of having a TV in your room, I was literally thinking about that last night.

Tommy: You don't need it. Do you want one?

Josh: Yeah, I think it'd be fun.

Tommy: I'd have one in my room if I had a huge house that was built for it. Like, actually, you don't need it. Nah, because then you just Actually, no, I'd like— I love watching Netflix in bed.

Josh: It'd be great. It's sick. I reckon I'd be able to fit in so much more Netflix.

Tommy: I don't think that's ideal for your life.

Josh: But you know what I mean? Like, I think that you could then fall asleep when you're ready.

Tommy: You don't need that. You don't—

Josh: I used to have Rove Live playing and I'd put it on a timer, 90 minutes. The TV would turn off in 90 minutes.

Tommy: Oh, I had that on my TV. Yeah, that was, that was big, the turn-off time. Yeah, they're sick.

Josh: It was good fun.

Tommy: Yeah, but you don't need this shit. I mean, we talked about it over the weekend. You don't need more screen time, bro. No, you need to reconnect with your fucking—

Josh: Yeah, I went on for a walk.

Tommy: You're saying you went?

Josh: Yeah, I did. Where did you go, 3D Dill?

George: Uh, this weekend I went out to Geelong actually to visit, um, a lady that I met on the aeroplane from Vancouver to Melbourne. We were stranded in Vancouver Airport together. Her name's Georgia. And I spent the weekend with her and her family, her husband Dave and then her two daughters Piper and Daphne, which are—

Josh: I like those names.

George: The cutest little animals in the world.

Tommy: Are they both Aussie? Yeah, the parents. Piper and Daphne. He just got pissed all weekend, he told me. Yeah, it sounds fucking sick. Sounded great.

George: We did, we went wine tasting, went down to Bells Beach.

Josh: Is that why you called me cutie in a text message?

Tommy: Yeah, probably. Probably.

Josh: He said, um—

Tommy: He's feeling a bit Fruity said, uh, loving it.

Josh: But I wrote back with the same— the funny thing is when someone sends you that on a Saturday night and then you don't get back till like the next day. Yeah, but you— I still want to bring the same level of intensity. But there was— well, because he said, hey cutie, just remembered I got this message from Telstra and I think you helped me fix it last time. No rush for it though, sleep tight, kiss kiss. And then I said Um, yeah, my mind just said, hey homie, I'll pay that now. Stand by, kids.

George: I was, I was still pissed in the morning too. I was still drunk.

Tommy: How many beers did you have?

Josh: It was a beers.

Tommy: You had beers, beers and wine?

Josh: Yeah, I don't—

George: couldn't tell you how many glasses of wine. Maybe 6 or 7 beers over the— like 3 in the, the evening and then 3 the next day.

Josh: What happens when you drink? What are you doing?

George: I get really sleepy.

Josh: Yeah.

George: Depends on what I'm drunk on. If it's liquor, if it's vodka or tequila, then I lose my mind. But wine—

Josh: I've never had tequila, I don't think.

George: You haven't had tequila?

Josh: Tequila.

Tommy: Yeah, it's, uh, I am glad I don't have hangovers anymore. We did little kickers yesterday. Bodhi going to soccer on Sunday with his mate. Yeah, it changed to Sunday.

Josh: Better for you or no?

Tommy: Nah, I don't really like it. Sunday, I'd rather just—

Josh: Sunday you want to sort of be— I'm trying to dial that in at the moment. What do you do for Saturdays and what do you do for Sundays?

Tommy: So anyway, the parents of Bodhi's friend who goes were hungover. You just know the telltale— like, they told us, but you just can see it in them. Like, you just— everything's just slight struggle.

Josh: How do you— because I was wondering, I've, like, I've been getting into the wine And if I have 2 glasses, like if I fill up 2 of the glasses like how I would, it's probably like half a bottle maybe.

Tommy: Depends on what size your glass is.

Josh: Oh, it's big, big glass.

Tommy: You can get 2 glasses, you can get a whole bottle into these days in some big ones. Like there's some of the big dumb glasses. It's like, I don't know what they're—

Josh: Novelty.

Tommy: They're dumb. They're just like big. You're not even meant to fill them. You're just meant to put a little bit so you can sort of swish them around. It goes right up the sides and coats it.

Josh: I mean, what's the, um, I'm curious as to, like, I'm having wine to the point where I don't have hangovers, but I'm definitely like tipsy. Like, I'm sort of stumbling. Maybe not stumbling. Stumbling sounds— If you stumble, but like you're standing, but you're like, whoa.

Tommy: Nah, you haven't— You're not drunk. You're not—

Josh: That's not drunk? What would 0.05 be, I wonder?

Tommy: That's like you have 2 2 glasses. But you should— yeah, you shouldn't, you shouldn't be stumbling if you're on fucking expensive.

Josh: So I've been getting it from our place, like just the bottle or whatever downstairs, Dan Murphy's. And then Bree and I went to Alimentari, like a, um, dinner place, wine bar. Yeah, had dinner and shit. It turns dinner from being like, I don't know, like $100 and something, like it was $150. Yeah, it's crazy.

Tommy: Did you buy a bottle?

Josh: No, I had 2 glasses and Bree had 1. She doesn't like red glasses.

Tommy: Like $12, $13, correct? Yeah, so you're spending $26.

Josh: Fucking yeah, another thing, plus $13, $26.

Tommy: Yeah, but plus another one. Ah yeah, I mean, that's— it's expensive. You just bought a full main meal.

Josh: Just bought a main meal and we had dessert, 2 desserts, like 1 each, but we shared. So that was— I didn't want to talk much about food today. Uh, But I do have something exciting that I want to talk about.

Tommy: Um, what, that it's not exciting?

Josh: Uh, yeah, no, did you just feel like I've overhyped it already?

Tommy: I don't know what it is. Uh, you've got your bag here. Have you got— you got props?

Josh: Definitely overhyped it. You've got props.

Tommy: You literally had in your hand, you were hugging your bag, and Mason comes over like a good fucking child tending to his drunk father and just says, let me take your bag, Dad.

Josh: Yeah, the kid should be working on the next set.

Tommy: No, no, he said, no, I, I'm, um, I've got something in there. It's a prop. That's what he said.

Josh: I do have a prop. No, so I was thinking about, um, no, I had a good, good weekend. It was sort of getting things dialled in in some ways, you know, when you have like a rock bottom weekend.

Tommy: No, what does this mean? What does dialled in mean? What does rock, rock bottom mean? I mean, what do you mean?

Josh: I was rock bottom and now I'm dialled in. So rock bottom being like, fuck, I'm like so annoyed. I'm like putting on weight.

Tommy: Okay, okay, okay. This is a personal audit. You've hit rock bottom personally, not the business has crumbled, but you haven't told me.

Josh: I mean, I don't know. You're the CFO. How are we going?

Tommy: Close.

Josh: So I, yeah, no, on Saturday, that's what I was wondering Saturdays and Sundays, because I think that they can, and I did go through a point where I'm like, you know what? Like I know what I need. And it was to, um, get this bike trainer. I was really proud of myself because I was like working it all out, like, right, $1,500 for the bike trainer, but now I need like clip-in shoes to be able to use it.

Tommy: Haven't you had all this stuff before?

Josh: I haven't had the clip-in shoes. I never got the clip-in shoes, which I should have had anyway, but I've got the bike. So I was like, but then I had a moment of like clarity where I'm like, you know what, I'm not going to buy all this straight away. I've got the gym membership. Let's start like using that a little bit. Let's do walking and running and all that sort of thing. So, that was— So, there was a rock bottom and then there was a little thing. And then Bri and I did a big shop.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: So, I got like enough meat. I cooked a big 2-kilo pork shoulder, slow cooked.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: With adobo chilies. Adobo? Adobo? Adobo?

Tommy: No.

Josh: Habanero.

Tommy: A bodhi. A bodhi is my son. A bodhi.

Josh: A bodhi. A-B-O-D-E. A bodhi.

Tommy: Anyway, I cooked it with chillies.

Josh: Yeah. A bodhi. Doesn't matter.

Tommy: This is not a fact.

Josh: But I think I've said it to you before. I never have a problem with this word. Adobo. Who gives a fuck? Anyway, so I did the pork. I did like this eggplant lasagna thing. I didn't want to make it about food, but the one thing that I was thinking is, uh, it's August. Adobo. Adobo. Thank you. What did I say?

Tommy: A body?

Josh: A body?

Mason: Adobe?

Josh: Yeah, yeah, say it again.

Mason: Adobo. Adobo.

Josh: Adobo.

Mason: Adobo.

Josh: Yeah, it's very good. It comes in a little can. What do they got it on Google for? What's the price?

Mason: Uh, $3.50 at Woolies.

Tommy: He fucked it again. Adobo.

Josh: Adobo. Anyway, so, um, Uh, what I've decided is that, uh, we're gonna call August something as a way of, um, encapsulating what I want August to be for all of us.

Tommy: What is August for all of us?

Josh: For the Gronk Squad, we are going to do our first month of something, and it's called Organized August.

Tommy: What's—

Josh: how do you, uh, also Start updating Asana, guys. That's the first step.

Tommy: So, this is—

Josh: So, we're just getting organised.

Tommy: Getting organised. So, then—

Josh: What did you think when I said Organised August?

Mason: I was expecting a word starting with A. Yeah.

Josh: No.

Tommy: All in August.

Josh: Yeah. All in August. No, Organised August.

Tommy: But hang on.

Josh: It still sounds like— Go on. The point of this is to get organized.

Tommy: What aren't we— huh? What aren't we—

Josh: don't you feel a bit disorganized?

Tommy: Oh, only in a few areas. I mean, I've got everything else dialled in, pretty organized. Did food prep.

Josh: Well, so what I'm going to read in the next couple of days as preparation is, um, what's this network marketing book? No, it's not network marketing. This is David Allen's Getting Things Done.

Tommy: Getting Things Done. This— if there's a guy that looks like he gets shit done, it's this dude.

Josh: Yeah, David Allen. I reckon we could get him on the podcast.

Tommy: The Art of Stress-Free Productivity, national bestseller. David Allen, author of Ready for Anything and Making It All Work, personal productivity guru, Fast Company. Interesting. So when did you get this book?

Josh: I've had it for years. Um, and so I sort of started doing it roughly What are you looking at, 97?

Mason: No, I'm just going through some of the photos on Google Images, just of his, um, methodology and stuff.

Josh: Yeah, what do you say?

Mason: Uh, there was one, there was a flowchart with a bunch of steps and yes and nos.

Tommy: Yeah, um, this is just one thing that he's highlighted. Brainstorming keys. Many techniques can be used to facilitate brainstorming and out-of-the-box thinking. The basic principles, however, can be summed up as followed: don't judge, challenge, evaluate, or criticize. Go for quantity, not quality. Put analysis and organisation in the background. Anyway, no, I like it. So you're going to read that? Yes, I just don't know how it feeds into us. I mean, the buy-in needs— like, if we're going to do it, so I think we do every—

Josh: so for instance, uh, first step, we're going to get— we're going to start before August as a way of getting it sort of dialled in. Um, clean your bags. Everyone go through your bag and clean it today.

Tommy: I don't even know if I have a bag.

Josh: Like a backpack? Yes.

Tommy: I don't have—

Josh: When was the last time you cleaned your backpack?

Tommy: I don't have a bag today.

Mason: Mine's clean as.

George: Okay.

Josh: Yeah, well, you saw my bag. I had undies and socks and stuff. I do.

Mason: I mean, I'm searching for an SSD in there and there's just like undies and socks. Just—

Josh: they're all clean.

Tommy: Where are you? Why? What are you doing?

Josh: They're clean. I just— I had it as an option of like, just in case you shit yourself at the office. No, No, I had it because, um, like, I'm never one to really change that much. And so part of it, what I was trying to work out, people seem to like— they exercise and then they get fully changed.

Tommy: But what are you talking about? You don't actually—

Josh: when I walk with Pete.

Tommy: Oh, okay. Yeah, but you come in those despicable tracksuits, tracksuit pants.

Mason: Poor Pete.

Josh: Oh my God, what do you mean?

Tommy: That fucking one hot minute, or that piping hot. They look like you've bought them from—

Josh: are you kidding me—

Tommy: an op shop.

Josh: They're minimal. They're ANS color.

Tommy: I wouldn't be surprised if they were fifth hand by the time you got them. Full on, huh?

Josh: Don't you reckon?

Tommy: They're so cheap. They're actually some of the most—

Josh: is it because they're not fashion? Do you have any of these?

George: Any, any what? Any of the ANS colour sweats? No, forget that.

Tommy: How old are they though?

Josh: Like 3 months. And they only just got them.

Tommy: You got them from the seconds bin, didn't you?

Mason: Are they cuffed at the bottom or is it just straight-legged?

Josh: He fucking shops with his mum once and he starts asking these questions.

George: No, but that's a serious question.

Mason: Are they just straight-legged or do they have a cuff?

Josh: Yeah, they've got the thing at the bottom.

Tommy: Do they? Yeah. They look like they're straight-legged. No, I think they just drop. I think they look like this guy dressed you.

Josh: We might want to have David Allen on next season.

Tommy: No, no, dude. You fucking look like a travelling doctor. That's nothing, like, it's just his fashion. Yeah, Craig Harper wears cargo pants 24/7. I'm just pointing it out, you can't fucking deny the facts.

Josh: Um, yeah, so, um, no, clean your bag. So you're all saying you've done it already?

Tommy: I don't have a bag.

Josh: What about meal prep?

Tommy: I do it.

Josh: Yeah, and so we're working through all the things, and so you can tick that one.

George: Okay, this is all stuff that we do though, and you don't.

Tommy: This is the thing we need. That's why I'm doing it. If we want to do a month, if you want spring a month on us. I think it has to be a month that we're collectively interested in doing it because I don't think the audience—

Josh: So you don't want to get organised? That's what you're saying? Because if you guys don't do it, I'm not doing it.

Tommy: But then that means we're currently organised to some degree in our own personal lives, but then you're going to leave yourself.

Josh: What about your phone apps? Is everyone organised with their phone apps? Let me have a look at your phone.

Tommy: Yeah, sure.

Josh: I'll open it up for you. Let's see how many apps.

Tommy: But then now you're talking about minimalism. Now you're talking about—

Josh: No, I'm talking about being organised.

Tommy: But what does organised mean?

Josh: Oh, it's so disorganized.

Tommy: To say that it's unorganized, you're saying that I'm unorganized. But what is that?

Josh: When was the last time you used the Obike app?

Tommy: Uh, you can delete that, thanks.

Josh: All right, let's go through these. Like, what's Meta— why do you have Meta Remove?

Tommy: Oh, because I wanted to up— sometimes you can— there was a period of time where Instagram was fucking pushing shit to the bottom because it had the metadata from ages ago. And so you could remove metadata and push it to the top of the 24. Yeah, you can delete it, it's all good.

Josh: What about the Virgin Australia Entertainment app?

Tommy: I mean, in case, in case we go flying with them. Okay, I think I got that when I went to— I know I flew Qantas.

Josh: Instax Share.

Tommy: Instax, no, we need that. That's for the, um, don't delete that.

Josh: KFC.

Tommy: But I mean, you're just doing what I do on a plane. I just do this when I'm on a plane.

Josh: What, be organized?

Tommy: No, I just delete shit. I go through, delete photos that I don't want.

Mason: Face juggler.

Tommy: Face juggler, mate, how do you think I've got that?

Josh: It's called Organizer.

Tommy: I think—

Josh: what does Organizer do?

Tommy: It's a part of Apple.

Josh: No, it's Eventbrite.

Tommy: Oh yeah, yeah. So Eventbrite, when you—

Josh: to be able to run an event, you—

Tommy: yeah, they've created a separate app for the back end, uh, actually running the event.

Josh: But you can see what I'm saying.

Tommy: This is digital minimalism. I've watched your video, mate. It's on YouTube, got about 70,000 views. Yeah, surprising.

Josh: But my point is, coming from Josh, how's your phone going?

Mason: Did you clear it out on the weekend?

Josh: No, I haven't yet because I'm trying to do it all together.

Tommy: But here's the thing, I don't know if we need to do it together to get organised together.

Josh: There's a few— I've got— actually, I'm way cleaner than TJ is. I've only got like 3 screens.

Tommy: But I don't know what— like, are you saying that my— this is the thing— my unorganised phone is doing something to my life? Because it's not doing anything to my life. I don't ever think about it, and I delete them every now and then. This is the thing, you got to look at what you're doing and what you think it will do for you.

Josh: Sure. And so you meditate— maybe you wouldn't have to meditate so much if you had—

Tommy: I'll meditate every day regardless. I don't care if I got I'm not dropping a meditation just because I've got a few less apps. It's not how it works.

Josh: Yeah, no, it's not. And so what's the— what things do you guys need to do to get organized? In all seriousness, a bit of self-reflection for a moment. I know it could be hard for this team. Mr. Avocado, Mr. Oreo, Mr. Fashion. Mr. Fashion, what are you? Ah, I'm fucking Mr.

Tommy: Mess.

Josh: What's the— yeah, no, so what's every— what's one thing Self-reflection. What do you want to get organised in August?

Tommy: I mean, I'm not saying I want to be a part of it, but the— I want to do— so I've done— I did a bit of a Marie Kondo on my house.

Josh: But why did you use it?

Tommy: I don't know. Spanish. It's less racist than being Japanese, doing a Japanese accent. I'll go Spanish. I won't get in trouble. Anyway, I did the— I did that on my house. But because I'm thinking about moving and we're trying to get a place, I'm in that mindset of going, I can't wait till I've got a bigger house, you know, like this shit, like I'm going to throw out so much shit. So you start getting annoyed at the smallness of your current home because you know you're going to be going to a place. And I'm not even saying I want more room to put more stuff away. I'm saying I just want a fucking towel cupboard that isn't a thing of drawers in our fucking bedroom, you know, like it's At that point it's a luxury. It's like, I just want a linen closet. How much can a man ask? You know, that's all I want. So anyway, so my thing is throwing— I've got a bunch of shit I want to throw out at home. I want to get my—

Josh: but isn't that just minimizing?

Tommy: You're the one making us do this. You just said go around and say it.

Josh: I know, but my point is you criticise me because—

Tommy: yeah, but I'm not looking to make a month of it. I can do it in a day and I'm done.

Josh: If you can do it in a day, why haven't you done it yet?

Tommy: Because I got other shit I gotta do.

Josh: Okay, this is the whole point of the month.

Tommy: I'm gonna tend to Bodhi, who ripped off his nappy and pissed in his bed last night and slept in it. Oh, you want to come over?

Josh: Would he be happy about you talking about that?

Tommy: He's got no say.

Josh: 97. What do you want to get organised with?

Mason: Um, probably my nighttime routine.

Tommy: Okay, what is it currently?

Mason: Uh, well, I've just been at Jase's house. I've been going to bed like 11 o'clock. And I need a doll.

Tommy: Naughty.

Mason: Yeah, a bit naughty.

Tommy: What time do you have TVs?

Josh: Do you have a TV in your room?

Mason: No.

Tommy: What time do you want to get to bed, you boys?

Mason: 10. I was—

Josh: what was that?

Tommy: I mean, you roll into work about 9:30.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: What are you doing in the morning?

Mason: Did I wake up like 7?

Tommy: Wake up 7, smoothie, shower, shit, shave, shoeshine.

Mason: Yeah, well, no, I was, I was listening to, um, The Long and the Short of It, uh, and I was just going through like the back catalogue And, um, there was one on like nighttime routines and it just— Pete didn't realise he had a nighttime routine and then he started like talking about it and he realised he had one.

Josh: Don't use our platform to fucking talk about Pete's show the whole—

Tommy: What's your nighttime routine now? Run us through it just quickly.

Mason: Well, usually like, um, it's usually literally just brush my teeth, shower, then bed. But ideally I'd like to, uh, start flossing a bit more and I was Mate, I was watching a video on anchoring habits. This is literally something that you do. Is this Dierk Weller? Nah, oh, actually no, I did watch Dierk Weller's, and then I got like inspired, and then I watched like another video of this TED Talk.

Josh: I feel like flossing hasn't taken off in Australia.

Mason: I mean, the dentist recommends it.

Tommy: You'd never say that about water. It's not about taking off, it's about fucking just flossing.

Josh: How often do you floss?

Tommy: Not enough.

Josh: Yeah, why don't you— would you do that as part of Organised August?

Tommy: So One of the things that could work is actually buying those picks that have like just one bit.

Mason: You have to throw them away every like week.

Tommy: What do you do with every— what do you do with your street fashion that you buy?

Mason: What do you mean?

Tommy: Where do you throw it?

Mason: Wear it for 2 years.

Tommy: You got me. Yeah, trying to look—

Mason: no, but if you think you have to throw those—

Josh: beating the fast fashion system.

Tommy: Takes fast fashion and uses it for years. Anyway, then get the floss, you lazy prick.

Mason: I've literally got it. It's sitting right next to my toothbrush.

Tommy: So how about this? You cut 70 strands of it so it's the perfect length, and then you have that ready to go. So they're just one, one, so you don't have to— you're removing the small bit of time where you pull it out and then you go—

Josh: it sounds like horrendous.

Tommy: No, I'm just trying to work out how—

Josh: so where does he keep them? Where does he keep the string?

Mason: Right next to the toothbrush.

Tommy: But if you've unravelled the whole 70 of them, that's fine, just put it in a drawer somewhere. What's your problem? Why aren't you flossing then?

Josh: Yeah, what is the deal?

Mason: I don't know, you just forget it. You just don't do it. Just can't be bothered. Do you use like— Brushing your teeth, I mean, it's a habit, but it's like, oh, I can't be bothered brushing my teeth. But then, so then you go to flossing, and flossing is like, I really can't be bothered doing that.

Josh: I probably have once every 2 weeks or something where, uh, especially like on a Saturday night, I won't brush. No, yeah, I've had a couple of wines. Couple of wines. And red wine, you should be definitely— that's when you should be brushing your teeth. But there is something very indulgent about, you know what, I'm not going to brush my teeth.

Tommy: Oh, it's old school naughty. Yeah, it's old school.

Josh: Just feeling extra old school naughty when Bree says, have you brushed it? She's brushing her teeth. Have you brushed your teeth? Yeah, I'm just like half pissed.

Tommy: Nah. When you're in bed and you've been watching a movie or something. Yeah, I know what you mean.

Josh: I finally could watch a movie.

Tommy: You've got a laptop.

Josh: My fucking eye and eye will burn a fucking hole in it.

Tommy: It will, it will.

Josh: So that's So I like that one.

Mason: Dialing that in and then meditation as well.

Josh: Floss. It shows how much he's got together when he's focused, don't you think?

Tommy: That if not, but it's also—

Mason: yeah, but it's, it's like it's anchoring that to toothbrushing and then I want to go to bed.

Josh: You're not brushing your teeth?

Mason: No, I am brushing my teeth, I'm just not flossing.

Tommy: And why are you going to bed at 11? What's the— what are you doing staying up?

Josh: What's happening between 10 on the computer?

Mason: Well, on the computer, nah, last night we were, um we were cooking food and then we watched Narcos.

Josh: Okay, so what did you cook?

Mason: Um, Andre cooked a, uh, like pesto chicken and pasta, and then I cooked a butter chicken curry.

Tommy: Cute. Uh, 3D Deal, what are you—

Josh: I mean, I can organise to get organized.

Tommy: I mean, you're just picking something to organise August.

George: I'd, uh, I'd like to get organised around like just a simple fitness routine I can do before I go back home. So we don't go back huge.

Josh: Are you, are you worried that potentially you've put on weight since you've been—

George: I know I've put on weight.

Josh: I wonder what it could have been. It's on the Tim Tam peanut butter, is it? Or every time you see food, eating it so I don't eat it.

George: No, we, uh, when I was in Geelong over the weekend, uh, Georgia and her friend and I, we went out on a 20K run in the morning.

Josh: And 20Ks?

George: Yeah, we left at 6:30.

Josh: That's huge.

Tommy: Are you saying you did that?

George: I rode on the bike behind them. I didn't bring proper running shoes. I had my other— okay.

Tommy: Yeah, I bet you realise if you just left it at that point, we would have thought you did it.

George: Because I used to do it when I was in school, but since I've been here, I haven't. So it's, it's something that I'd like to get organised around, just a simple— obviously not 20K because it's a bit ridiculous.

Tommy: I reckon the name of the month is not Organized. Yeah, Optimized. Optimized August.

Josh: It doesn't have to be an O. I think that's one thing that we sort of worked out. No, I know, but you're pushing Optimized August just because it's not about organizing.

Tommy: I think it's organized. I don't think it's about organization.

Josh: Pick up all word.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Anyway, what's yours?

Tommy: I'll do mine tonight and then the month's done. We haven't even— we're not— it's still a couple of days away from August.

Josh: So we'll do, um, This is why I write a whole list of things. There's heaps. I'll give it—

Mason: there's heaps of business things together.

Josh: Yeah, I'll give you 3 things, uh, off the top of my head right now. Washing.

Tommy: Yeah, what are you talking about?

Josh: Doing what? Like getting washing dialled in? Have you got it fully dialled in? Do you? When do you do—

Tommy: are you saying when you do something?

Josh: When do you do— just get organized. When do you do your washing?

Tommy: I don't do the washing.

Josh: There we go. Let's get organized.

Tommy: I think where you need to start, just like the fitness journey, is you, dude.

Josh: Well, that's what I'm doing. We're doing it as a team.

Tommy: The first time we've heard about this is today on this show.

Josh: And you don't like it.

Tommy: I don't know if there's much payoff. It's not like— it's like—

Josh: I think all that needs is 2 minutes of every show where he said, no, I don't think you do your washing last night.

Tommy: That does not deserve 2 minutes of fucking show at all, at all.

Josh: I put— how about hi@thedailytalkshow.com?

Tommy: I like the competition stuff though.

Josh: If anyone wants to join in with Organized August, but we don't know what it is, so unfortunately, what is organizing?

Tommy: It's not clear. It's not like there's, there's no—

Josh: what else do you need? What would give you clarity?

Tommy: You need some kind of end goal. It needs like a joint a joint collective result, something like that. So it's like Joe Rogan does Sober October with a bunch of dudes and they pick a fitness thing and they, you know, so it's like you clearly see who's the winner. There's some, the stuff, it's, you know, there's something at stake. They, they're all sort of trying to be their best selves for a month. And so it makes sense. This is what I'm saying. There's not much like, it's like, oh, did you do your washing?

Josh: No, what's it?

Tommy: Oh, how about you can do it?

Josh: All right, I've got an A word that goes with August. Yeah, Accountability August. It's horrible.

Tommy: Accountability August.

Josh: Well, if your criticism is in the— well, I know 97's got an issue with organise being a fucking O word. I don't know. So we're not doing any of it?

Tommy: I think we, we go back to the drawing board and We—

Josh: I think I actually still do it.

Tommy: You still do it? I never said— no one, none of us said that you shouldn't do it.

Josh: You told me you don't think I should get organized, basically is what you said. Uh, we got it, we got a review, by the way. Oh yeah, did you, did you see that on Apple Podcasts?

Mason: I, I got a message saying that my feed didn't pull it in.

Tommy: So this is where you're bringing to us that you've been so unorganized.

Josh: Yeah, when you said unorganised versus disorganized, disorganized, it's probably disorganized.

Mason: I think it's disorganized.

Tommy: Unorganized.

Josh: Can we do the video with the Vegemite, uh, sock yet?

Tommy: You fucked it. Nah, because I haven't seen it come out yet.

Josh: When the video of, um, Vegemite socks— yeah, when they release a video—

Tommy: well, they're doing a promotional video and we shot it for them. Yeah, and it's sock puppets. And so we'll find it on there and when it's online, and then you will have them on the show.

Josh: We've got the puppet, we'll have the puppet, we'll have the puppet on the show. Uh, quality Shepparton content.

Tommy: Lovely.

Josh: 13 hours ago from Juliana. The Apple Podcast review names are always—

Tommy: Where is it? Oh, geez. When do you put that in? Like, when does that happen?

Josh: I think people, like, put it in the first time they've ever left an app review.

Tommy: Yeah. And they're just fucking around. Yeah. They don't think it's going to stay.

Josh: A great podcast for those wanting to hear someone bang on about Shepparton more than their grandparents who actually live there. Cry face. Love the banter and dynamic. From this fabulous duo. Mr. 97 and 3D Dill don't hurt the eyes either. Don't ever want to miss a day's podcast for fear of missing out.

Tommy: Thanks, Juliana.

Josh: Thank you.

Tommy: That's nice.

Josh: Yeah, I think—

Tommy: I don't think we've mentioned the word shh, the S-word, today. You've mentioned it because you read it, but we haven't mentioned it. Yeah, there's another one I'm not going to mention.

Mason: Uh, so you've got 20 mentions last week.

Josh: That's quite intense. Anything else, guys, that we need to—

Tommy: any other admin?

Mason: Well, you know Dill's post last night?

Josh: Oh yes, the Gronkh one. Yeah, yeah, you cooked it. Which one is it? Because he used an apostrophe?

Mason: No, no, no, no, no, you missed an episode.

George: Oh no, someone didn't transcript.

Josh: Oh, here we go. It's not playing Monday. Yeah, it is playing Monday.

Mason: Oh, here we go.

Tommy: We can delete it.

George: Episode 401, I believe, is not transcribed in our database.

Mason: Oh, it's on the website.

George: 97 is accountable.

Josh: Accountable August. Keep it for next month, Dil. It's a daily talk show. Uh, if you've listened this far, take a screen grab, put it on Instagram, uh, say something nice. We regram it. Yeah, it's a big circle jerk that we all take a part in, which is called social media, and we enjoy it and it makes us feel good. Yeah, we don't let it enter us as in an ego sort of trip. It's just, uh, something that we all do.

Tommy: Yeah, so, and don't leave your Oreos around because fucking Dill will still eat them. He will.

Josh: Uh, we'll see you tomorrow, guys, which is Tuesday.

Tommy: See you guys.

George: Bye.