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Episode 52570:13

Adam & Symon On Gogglebox, Subway & The Genius Bar

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Adam Densten and Symon Lovett join us for Weekend Banter! Adam & Symon are a duo known for their appearance on hit TV show Gogglebox, and their podcast The Adam & Symon Show. We chat about auditioning for Gogglebox, Adam's experience at Apple's Genius Bar, and what happened to Symon's car.

Show Notes

–Symon
–Auditioning for Gogglebox at the pub
–What happened on episode 1 of The Simpsons
–Movember
–Domain names
–Being physiotherapists
–Josh's walking shoes
–The last sub
–Shoppo
–Adam's experience at the Genius Bar
–What happened to donuts in Melbourne
–Adam's morning routine
–Symon's car

Symon on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/symonlovett/

Adam on Instagram: http://instagram.com/adamdensten

The Adam & Symon Show: https://www.instagram.com/adamsymonshow/

Adam & Symon's Movember campaign: https://mobro.co/adamsymon

At a glance

From this episode’s transcript.

  • –Adam Densten and Symon Lovett were cast for Gogglebox after a producer approached their friend group at a Flemington pub in 2014, with Symon being the only one of ten mates who replied.
  • –Gogglebox has multiple international versions, including the UK original and the US version called 'On the Couch'.
  • –Josh started a self-directed 'Simpsons morning routine' on Disney Plus, journaling plot summaries and learnings to stay present while watching.
  • –Buying a domain name can become leverage in consumer disputes, as shown by Josh's purchase of a health club's near-identical domain and by the real-world story of Dropbox.com's founder paying a large sum for the domain.
  • –Both guests keep day jobs as physiotherapists alongside Gogglebox, which they say removes pressure and lets them stay selective about taking on more TV/entertainment work.

Questions this episode answers

How did Adam Densten and Symon Lovett get cast on Gogglebox?

A casting producer with a clipboard approached their friend group of ten at the Turf Club pub in Flemington in 2014; everyone declined except Symon, and Adam later found her contact details in his pocket and followed up, kicking off their application process including a Skype interview.

Why is Symon's name spelled with a Y?

His parents simply chose to spell it that way; he says he actually dislikes the more common 'Simon with an I' spelling, calling it a bit vanilla, and has met other Y-spelled Simons including a Logies security guard and Sandra Sully's husband.

What is Josh Janssen's 'Simpsons morning routine'?

After subscribing to Disney Plus, Josh decided to watch one old and one new Simpsons episode each day, journaling plot summaries and personal learnings in a notebook so he pays closer attention instead of multitasking on his phone.

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Episode TranscriptShow
0:00

Symon: The Daily Talk Show.

0:03

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 525.

0:07

Tommy: This week in banter, and we've got Adam and Simon in the studio.

0:10

Symon: How are you guys?

0:11

Josh: Single clap. Yeah, one.

0:13

Adam: I just like from over here, let him clap.

0:15

Tommy: No, I say it, Josh claps.

0:17

Symon: That's a nice little double hit there.

0:19

Tommy: Thanks, man.

0:20

Josh: People might know you as the duo from Gogglebox.

0:23

Adam: Yes, a duo, not the duo.

0:25

Symon: Are we the Uh, we're definitely one of them. Yeah, 100%. We're one of them.

0:29

Tommy: You're down the Adam and Simon.

0:31

Symon: Yeah, we're the only male-male duo.

0:33

Tommy: Okay.

0:34

Symon: Yeah, yeah.

0:35

Adam: Well, the best thing about having Simon as well is that his name is S-Y-M-O-N, so it immediately differentiates himself from every— like us from every single other person in the world.

0:44

Symon: Except for Sandra Sully's husband.

0:45

Tommy: His name is S-Y. Yeah, yeah.

0:48

Adam: And there's a security guard who works at the Logies who's also S-Y-M-O-N. Yeah.

0:52

Josh: How did you find that out?

0:54

Symon: Well, because we went to the Logies. Yeah. Wow. Because we snuck into the Logies one year.

1:01

Tommy: Classic.

1:02

Symon: And then Sandra Sully came up and said, my husband's name is Simon with a Y.

1:06

Josh: And Sandra's so nice too, isn't she?

1:08

Symon: She's the nicest person in the whole world. Yeah, she was super nice. And then we all got a photo.

1:14

Tommy: Did it just go, my husband Simon? 'Can we have a photo now?' Is that how it went, or is it a bit of banter?

1:21

Symon: I was a bit more baffled first. It was like, 'Hey, my husband's name's Simon.' I'm like, 'That's awesome.' She's like, 'No, but he spells it with a Y as well.' I'm like, 'What the hell is going on here?' And then I was talking to him, and we were both very amazed that we'd met someone else. And he's a security guard. Every year I talk to him, we get a photo every year. You got to be in the photo this year. Yeah, like, this is the best.

1:39

Tommy: Um, your parents, have you spoken like the using the Y, dropping the I?

1:44

Symon: Yeah, yeah. So Just, just because they wanted to. Yeah.

1:48

Tommy: Yeah.

1:48

Symon: Thanks, Dad.

1:49

Adam: What's the irony is that your dad hates people who spell—

1:52

Symon: No, I hate that.

1:52

Adam: You hate it?

1:53

Symon: Yeah.

1:54

Tommy: You hate Simons with an I?

1:55

Symon: Yeah. Well, I think Simon with an I is a bit silly.

1:58

Josh: It's a bit vanilla.

1:59

Symon: It's a bit boring, isn't it? Like, Simon's not like a real strong name to start with. And then with an I, you're like, ugh.

2:05

Tommy: I know, Michael with a Y. Whoa.

2:08

Adam: I feel like that's very American.

2:10

Symon: See, but that I hate.

2:12

Josh: I think I call him Mykel, which I don't know why. Yeah, I know.

2:15

Tommy: I can see why.

2:18

Adam: Adam Uzay, former Melbourne footballer. He's A-D-E-M.

2:23

Tommy: Yes, Adam.

2:23

Adam: Yeah, I don't know if that's like Eastern European.

2:25

Symon: It's a cultural thing though.

2:26

Tommy: Love Uzay. He was the gloves man. Yeah, always, always gloves. Always wore gloves.

2:31

Josh: Yeah, I'm worried about this banter, it's just pretty strong.

2:34

Tommy: I was gonna say, um, so the only thing worse than being on RBT—

2:41

Symon: yes—

2:42

Tommy: is featuring on Gogglebox where they're watching our BT. My wife's cousin, he was on it.

2:49

Adam: Yes, really?

2:50

Tommy: You might— I, I, all I remember from watching the episode because I didn't know you guys then, I did— I hadn't connected the dots. All I remember is him getting called a malaka by the Greek lady. Um, so I don't know if you threw out some malakas as well. He was the guy that had the dog in the car, right? And, um, and then he was just giving lip to the to the copper.

3:12

Josh: Every RBT.

3:13

Symon: If you have a beard.

3:15

Josh: Oh, I love that one. Yeah.

3:16

Adam: You're not the one who calmly accepted their punishment. They're like, that's fair enough. I've done the wrong thing.

3:21

Symon: Yes, I have drunk a slab and I'm over. I probably shouldn't have done that.

3:24

Tommy: It's the ultimate embarrassment, right?

3:27

Symon: Oh my God. Just in case you thought that people weren't— oh, maybe this will slip through and people won't hang it on me. No, no, we're going to put it back on TV and people are going to sling you.

3:37

Adam: And we'll put it on a different channel too. So more people are going to see it.

3:40

Josh: What do you think the deal is with release forms, with that sort of thing? Like, are they having to—

3:43

Tommy: Oh yeah, surely.

3:45

Adam: I've heard, I think I heard Josh Gibson, more footy chat, but Josh Gibson apparently was late to one of his first trainings and was speeding down the Eastern Freeway in Melbourne. And the cops—

3:56

Josh: Great freeway.

3:57

Adam: Yeah. And the cops pulled him over, said you were speeding and then they were filming Highway Patrol or something at the time and he had to barrel the camera and say, my name is Josh Gibson. I did not give consent for you to video me on this.

4:10

Tommy: Did he know to just come out straight out the gates?

4:13

Josh: He must have.

4:13

Tommy: Or do you think they said, mate, if we can use this unless you—

4:16

Symon: is it like an opt-out sort of thing? Yeah, you're in.

4:19

Adam: It's on the table. It's on the table unless you tell us it's off the table.

4:22

Josh: It's like border security. You know, you go through Melbourne Airport and it says you could be filmed.

4:26

Symon: So it must be an opt-out.

4:28

Adam: If you do something wrong, just barrel the camera and be like, my name is Adam Denson and I do not approve. I approve of this one.

4:35

Josh: What do you think about like all the current affairs, like the fraudsters and shit like that?

4:38

Adam: Yeah, yeah.

4:38

Symon: Surely you'd be like, Guys, don't use that. Yeah, yeah.

4:43

Josh: It's so not on there. They caught me. We have to use it.

4:46

Symon: Yeah, it's—

4:47

Josh: we've got to do right by Tracey. They put in all the work.

4:50

Tommy: The thing is, a lot of people want to be on telly. Like, you guys obviously thought, ah, I'll audition for this show.

4:56

Symon: Yeah.

4:56

Tommy: You know what the outcome will be if you get on it. You're on telly.

4:59

Josh: Is that how it happens? You audition?

5:01

Tommy: Yeah. What's the deal?

5:02

Adam: We were at the pub.

5:03

Tommy: We were at— Auditioning at the pub?

5:04

Josh: Yeah.

5:05

Symon: Yeah.

5:05

Adam: We're at Turf Club in Flemington, which is now apartments. So the place that we had a beer at is now no longer. And the lady came over with a clipboard. There was like 10 of us, 10 mates sitting around a table having beers on a Thursday arvo. And she said, I'm casting for a show. I've been listening to you guys for a while. We said, first up, creepy.

5:23

Symon: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really creepy.

5:24

Adam: You've also got a clipboard. Yeah.

5:25

Josh: And she said, get an iPad.

5:27

Adam: Yeah, it was 2014.

5:30

Symon: iPads weren't even a thing back then.

5:31

Tommy: Yeah.

5:32

Adam: And she was like, yeah, the, the— I'm casting for a show. It's called Gogglebox. Everyone's like, that sounds terrible. And she's like, no, no, trust me, it's really good. It's about people watching people watch TV. We said, that sounds even worse.

5:42

Symon: Yeah, like this is the worst show on television.

5:45

Adam: She said, no, no, trust me. Here's my email. Wrote it down. I put it in my pocket. We went out that night. I woke up in the same pair of pants that I was wearing from that day. Was fishing through my pants and was like, oh, it's that lady's email. Text all the boys at the table. They all said no thanks except Simon, who said, I'll do it if you do the work.

6:01

Tommy: And to this day.

6:02

Symon: And then the admin. Yeah.

6:02

Adam: So I'm still the admin guy of our partnership.

6:05

Josh: Yeah. Admin's bullshit, isn't it?

6:07

Symon: Yeah. I don't know. Never done it.

6:11

Josh: That's fair, man. I respect that.

6:14

Adam: And so you emailed and then, and then you do like a Skype interview and stuff, and then, then it happens.

6:19

Symon: Yeah.

6:20

Adam: Then they're all of a sudden like, yeah, they're in your house.

6:22

Josh: Do you remember what show you were tested on? Like, did they give you a first show that you had to—

6:26

Symon: I remember the first one that had the cards. Yeah. And they showed us, um, like a pride flag, and then the next card was Kim Kardashian.

6:35

Adam: Yeah. And the Real Housewives of Melbourne.

6:37

Symon: And Real Housewives of Melbourne. And they're like, right, talk about it. Here's a card, go for it, talk about it. And you just go for it.

6:42

Tommy: I said there was no stimulus from a TV show.

6:45

Josh: They just want to make sure you're not homophobic.

6:46

Symon: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or that you are homophobic. Put you on TV and then get the light shades.

6:51

Josh: I don't know. I, um, this morning, uh, I downloaded Disney Plus.

6:56

Adam: Oh, I've heard a lot of, a lot of murmurs about it.

7:00

Symon: Yeah.

7:00

Adam: Doesn't it suck? Well, so I mean, if Disney's a sponsor, you guys, isn't Disney wonderful?

7:05

Symon: Yeah.

7:05

Tommy: What, what is Disney Plus?

7:06

Josh: Well, so it's like, um, think of Netflix, but if Netflix was owned by Disney and just had Disney content, which turns out Disney owns everything. The Simpsons is on this stuff.

7:17

Symon: Yeah, Marvel and Fox.

7:19

Adam: Yeah. Didn't they— haven't they just bought it like a Star Wars live action or something?

7:22

Symon: Yeah, and they own Star Wars. Yeah, and they are— they own everything.

7:25

Josh: There's a lot of stuff, like it's not just like Aladdin and Lion King.

7:27

Adam: That's where the Plus comes in. Yeah, Disney Plus.

7:30

Josh: Yeah. And so, and they have like Hannah Montana, which is probably obvious, but they've got a lot of content.

7:34

Tommy: Yeah.

7:34

Josh: And so this morning on the Disney Channel shop, but they, um So I got it. I got it. I have an Apple TV, so I like installed it and all that sort of thing.

7:45

Symon: Yeah.

7:45

Josh: And then I decided to go to episode 1, season 1 of The Simpsons.

7:51

Adam: Oh yes, throwback.

7:52

Josh: Do you remember what happened in season 1? No. So I can't remember anything. I used to watch on Fox 8, remember? Like on Saturdays and Sundays or whatever.

8:01

Adam: Was that wall-to-wall?

8:01

Tommy: Yeah.

8:02

Symon: I wasn't allowed to watch The Simpsons growing up.

8:03

Josh: Really?

8:04

Symon: Yeah.

8:04

Tommy: Christian upbringing?

8:05

Symon: No, because I thought I was Bart Simpson and then I'd just be a nightmare for my parents. You thought that or your mum thought that? Yeah, my mum thought that. And it was always It's always on at 6 o'clock after the news. Yeah. So just before dinner. And then it's like, I'm like, eat my shorts, Mum.

8:19

Adam: He builds it back in.

8:22

Tommy: Outta ya!

8:23

Symon: Slingshot.

8:23

Adam: Yeah, exactly.

8:24

Josh: Well, I was doubling down because I thought very rare to have access to every season of every show that easily.

8:30

Symon: Yeah.

8:30

Adam: How many seasons are up to now?

8:32

Josh: 29.

8:33

Tommy: Right.

8:33

Josh: Wow.

8:33

Tommy: What's crazy is Homer's voice changed.

8:37

Josh: Yes, it went really weird.

8:39

Tommy: It went fucked up.

8:40

Symon: Yeah.

8:40

Tommy: What the hell?

8:41

Josh: A lot of the voices have changed.

8:42

Symon: Have they come back?

8:42

Tommy: I mean, is it still He's still the same guy 29 years, 29 seasons later.

8:47

Josh: I've noticed Bart's voice is a lot brighter sounding. But anyway, the reason I bring it up is because I've got this notepad and what I decided to do was, you know, people do like morning pages and things like that. It's like just in the morning you write down your thoughts.

9:03

Tommy: Creativity, bruh.

9:04

Symon: Yeah, right.

9:05

Josh: Journaling. Journaling stuff.

9:07

Symon: Mindfulness.

9:07

Tommy: Channels the creativity.

9:09

Adam: Yeah, right.

9:10

Josh: And so what I was thinking was having some stimulus and learning at the same time. And so I got this— this is a new book. And so, because I think that book— because the thing that I struggled with when I watched it as a kid was I was always envious of the people who could remember shit from The Simpsons.

9:27

Symon: Yeah.

9:27

Josh: And they would be like, oh, this reminds me of when blah blah happened. I can't remember any of it.

9:31

Symon: Yeah.

9:31

Josh: And I was on my phone, episode 1 this morning. I was like, I can't— I'm not paying attention. I need a reason to pay attention.

9:38

Tommy: So, were you on Instagram at the same time? Yes.

9:41

Josh: I was supposed to ask you, did you say you're watching on your phone? No, so I was watching on Apple TV. He was on his phone while it was on in the background. What I've called this is my Simpsons morning routine. And so I just did a little diary. Today I subscribed to Disney Plus. I was excited to watch The Simpsons. As I was watching episode 1, I realised that I was multitasking and not taking it all in. How can I make sure I'm more present? My idea: create a routine where I watch one old episode and one new episode. In this book, I'll write down any learnings along the way and basic plot.

10:14

Adam: So you're starting from both your book ending.

10:16

Josh: Yes. So I'm going to do it in the middle.

10:17

Tommy: Episode 1.

10:18

Josh: Yeah.

10:19

Tommy: And then they're releasing new ones or is it 29 in and I'm not sure.

10:24

Josh: I'm sorry. I'm just working from episode 1 to 29.

10:27

Tommy: If you want to know, there is more. There is more.

10:29

Adam: They're up to episode season 31 and they're still releasing them.

10:33

Tommy: And how many episodes in?

10:34

Adam: 1,000?

10:35

Symon: Well, Mark, what's his channel?

10:36

Josh: 600 and something.

10:37

Adam: So, if you're starting from end to end, though, and they're still releasing new ones, so you listen to the most recent one.

10:42

Josh: Available on Disney Plus.

10:44

Adam: Oh, right. So, the new ones aren't coming out on Disney Plus.

10:45

Josh: I'm guessing they are, but they've been sort of, because I only see up to season 29. But if you didn't know what happened on episode 1.

10:55

Adam: Yeah.

10:55

Symon: Please tell me.

10:57

Josh: It's season 1, episode 1, Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire. It's Christmas time. Homer and Marge attend the kids' school Christmas performance. Homer finds out he won't be getting a Christmas bonus. Bart gets a tattoo, and when Marge finds out, she tries— uh, uses all of their savings in a jar to have it removed with a laser. Homer can't bring himself to tell the family about the lack of bonus. He goes to a cheap shop to do their Christmas shopping. He then signs up to be a Santa. Whilst Homer is a Santa, Bart, unknowing that it's him, sits on his lap and pulls his beard. What do we think of content so far, guys?

11:40

Tommy: When did the first episode come out?

11:43

Adam: Yeah. It was about the '90s. 1989.

11:45

Tommy: 1989, and they were talking about removing tattoos with lasers. It was a sequel. That's pretty fucking phenomenal.

11:50

Symon: The Simpsons is, it's diabolical.

11:53

Adam: It's fucking phenomenal.

11:53

Symon: It's like everything that you think you know. Yeah. It's scary. They just know everything.

11:56

Adam: They predicted Trump was going to be president.

11:58

Tommy: Oh, that's right. They did.

11:59

Symon: Yeah.

12:00

Josh: I think we're at another 2 pages, by the way.

12:03

Tommy: I was going to say, what I like about that is it probably gets boring from episode 2 onwards in terms of relaying it on the podcast.

12:12

Adam: But first, it really changes the mode of your podcast.

12:15

Tommy: But first, yeah, no, it's just, it's a Simpsons podcast. First episode of any old-school nostalgic show, yeah, it's quite interesting to understand. Where was the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air? What, what happened in first episode?

12:28

Adam: Friends Episode 1, all the big ones.

12:30

Josh: He goes to Bel-Air. Yeah, yeah, it just makes sense.

12:34

Symon: It's basically the episode of the story.

12:36

Adam: Yeah, it's the theme song in a show.

12:39

Tommy: It's the, um, yeah, the themes.

12:40

Josh: Yeah, exactly.

12:41

Symon: It's like you watch it and it's the theme song, and then you watch the episode and you're like, that was just a theme song.

12:45

Tommy: What about that? Fran Drescher?

12:48

Josh: How that starts. Maybe it would be a great podcast though. It could be called, um, The Pilots. Episode 1, or the pilot.

12:56

Symon: I like the pilot. He's been doing his morning pages, obviously.

13:00

Josh: No, well, I could just imagine there's a play on it. Like, I could wear a plane hat as in a pilot.

13:05

Tommy: Episode 1, Season 1 Gogglebox. 10— no, not 10 years ago.

13:09

Josh: You don't do seasons.

13:10

Adam: 5 years ago.

13:11

Tommy: They cram it.

13:12

Symon: That's good.

13:12

Tommy: It's solid.

13:13

Josh: So 2 a year.

13:14

Tommy: What, um, still a lot. If you know anything about behind the scenes of the show, it's a lot of work that goes in. But, um, that's all I will say.

13:23

Symon: Not from us.

13:24

Josh: Pretty much looks like this.

13:26

Tommy: What happens? The first episode comes out, you're thinking, fuck, this woman's told us it's going to be the best show. Yeah. Is it? What did you think when you first watched it? Did you watch it with all the 8 suckers that didn't apply?

13:37

Symon: We watched it. I watched it at home.

13:39

Adam: We watched it together. Yeah, yeah, we watched it together.

13:42

Symon: But there's an Instagram picture of it.

13:44

Adam: We filmed because we filmed the season 1 at Simon's parents' house where he lived at the time. He doesn't— didn't live with his parents. He lived with some older housemates.

13:52

Symon: Older housemates and a younger, a younger guy, his brother.

13:55

Adam: And so we watched it, we watched the first episode with them, and there's a photo of it from there, and we look like we're 15.

14:02

Josh: Yeah, they're international version because we've got a bunch of international listeners. Yeah, are there international versions of this?

14:08

Symon: Yeah, so the UK is the first one, so it started in the UK and that's the biggest. They're like season 20, I think, 2022. And then in America it's just called On the Couch.

14:18

Adam: But I think it's canned now. There's like one in Ireland, there's one in Denmark, they're sort of all over that. Europe has just gone like, bam, here's an easy cheap format, let's do this, we can do this for sure.

14:27

Josh: I like that. I mean, that's a very American name, On the Couch.

14:30

Tommy: Why can't they go goggles?

14:31

Josh: Fuck the goggles, just let's go on the couch.

14:34

Adam: Yeah, it wouldn't make any sense.

14:35

Symon: No one knows what that is.

14:37

Adam: No one has any goggles on.

14:38

Symon: Yeah, no one's wearing goggles.

14:40

Adam: Goggles.

14:41

Tommy: They take it too literally.

14:43

Josh: Yeah.

14:43

Tommy: That's interesting how they change names of films in regions. So America, there's a bunch of— there's a few that come— I can't remember.

14:51

Josh: The Sandlot is called The Sandlot Kids.

14:54

Symon: Yeah.

14:54

Josh: Yeah. In Australia, I think, and just called Sandlot.

14:57

Symon: That's like in The Morning—

14:58

Adam: I was about to say, The Morning Wars.

15:00

Symon: Yeah. Morning Wars with Rachel— Jennifer Aniston.

15:04

Josh: So, Rachel Grace. So this is what's very confusing because I watched that whole season over the weekend. Notice that it would change between the title and the titles that were baked into the actual show.

15:18

Symon: It's now—

15:19

Adam: it's called The Morning Wars in Australia because there's a morning show, TV show, the one that's after sunrise, I think. Yes, the morning show. So they didn't want people to be confused with that.

15:29

Josh: Are people that fucking dumb?

15:30

Adam: That's what— that's actually the genuine reason why they changed it.

15:33

Symon: I've been watching The Morning Show. Oh, which one? The Rachel Green one or the Larry Underwood?

15:37

Josh: I've been waiting for the weather. I mean, yeah, I can't believe Larry did that.

15:44

Symon: Adam, you haven't even spoken about mops.

15:48

Tommy: Your, um, your brother was on The Block, correct? Twice.

15:52

Adam: Twice. And then he did Reno Rumble.

15:53

Tommy: What the fuck are your parents thinking? Just like, Adam's now on a reality TV show as well.

15:59

Adam: Mum loves it.

16:00

Josh: Mum loves it.

16:01

Adam: Mum would watch the show. Mum would watch Gogglebox 3 times a week. So it gets played on a Wednesday on Foxtel Thursday on 10, and then she'll watch it on catch-up afterwards because Mum and Dad live in Corowa, which is like 4 hours from here on the, on the river on New South Wales-Vic border.

16:15

Tommy: Oh yeah, that's where the year 9s go for, yeah, for like a month or for the whole term.

16:21

Symon: Timbertop.

16:22

Tommy: Timbertop, that's it.

16:22

Adam: That's in Mansfield.

16:23

Tommy: That's not Corowa, it's not the same. It's not the same.

16:26

Symon: Corowa is where everyone goes on a summer holiday. Oh yeah, at some point in their life.

16:30

Adam: Corowa was the birthplace of Federation, but that's for another, that's for another day.

16:33

Josh: Is that where Federation University started or no?

16:35

Adam: No, it's in Ballarat.

16:36

Symon: Okay, the best name for it.

16:38

Adam: So they had the meetings in Corowa to decide that Australia would become one federated nation.

16:43

Josh: Why Corowa? Is that because it was Corowa?

16:45

Adam: Corowa.

16:46

Josh: Corowa.

16:46

Adam: With a C. So they also— there's a town called Cowra, which gets confused, and we got Cowra's hospital because the state government allocated all this money for a hospital to go to Cowra, and they accidentally started building it in Corowa, and they'd already put the slab down, and they're like, it's too late now, guys. Seriously?

17:03

Josh: Yeah, that's amazing. So is this where you grew up?

17:06

Adam: Yeah, so I grew up there till I was 19. I went to school in Wangaratta. I had to travel interstate every day to go to high school.

17:11

Tommy: Do you listen to Star FM or Sun FM?

17:14

Adam: Yeah, no, Star. We didn't get Sun, that was more Shepparton. Yeah, yeah. So we did Star FM 104.9.

17:20

Tommy: The Border. So that was Aubrey taking the feed from Aubrey.

17:23

Josh: Tommy did radio in Shepparton.

17:25

Tommy: I don't want to mention it, but I did it for multiple years. Did a couple of years.

17:28

Josh: He's a Shepparton.

17:28

Tommy: I think I had your brother on the show. Probably it was, it was 2015. When was your bro on?

17:33

Adam: He's done 3 reality shows.

17:34

Tommy: He was laughing himself out to every— 2015, 2016.

17:37

Adam: Yeah, that would have probably been Reno Rumble because he did the— my 21st birthday I spent at The Block open house.

17:42

Symon: What a guy.

17:44

Adam: What a guy.

17:44

Josh: Shortly after 2 reality shows, you're just an actor.

17:47

Adam: Well, he did 3.

17:48

Symon: Exactly.

17:49

Adam: Yeah, he did 3. Yeah, but yeah, Mum watches the show 3 times a week because she's like, oh, it's like you're in my lounge room, it's so great.

17:56

Symon: Yeah, yeah.

17:56

Josh: So you don't have to call or anything.

17:58

Adam: I'd have to go back that often.

18:00

Tommy: That's awesome. And so when you were seeing your bro on TV, were you thinking, fuck, I'd love to do that, but hadn't connected it to the—

18:07

Adam: Well, we actually watched an episode of him. He went, he made a guest appearance on the latest season as well. So we watched it.

18:13

Symon: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

18:14

Adam: He's just doing cameos. So we watched him on there, which was the first time we'd seen a clip of him on there. Yeah, yeah.

18:21

Tommy: I said, I saw you said, did he bully you or something?

18:23

Symon: Yeah, he probably did. He definitely did.

18:27

Josh: Talking about Cameos, have you been on that Cameo app? Have they— has Marina from Cameo been contacting you? No, we got signed up by our mate Ryan John.

18:38

Tommy: Yeah, it was a stitch-up.

18:39

Symon: Has anyone—

18:40

Adam: have you done anything?

18:41

Tommy: No, we had it, it was on there for free. He set it up and Mr. 97 left it open for free, so we got people asking us to tickle our feet on camera.

18:48

Adam: What is it?

18:49

Symon: What is this?

18:50

Josh: What is Cameo? Yeah, so Cameo is, is an app for people who are in the public eye. Yes. Like ourselves.

18:58

Symon: Yes.

18:58

Josh: Yeah. And people can request messages and you set the price. Yeah. So you guys could be like, for $100, I'll send you Merry Christmas.

19:08

Tommy: Yeah, but there's a bunch that have made thousands and thousands of dollars.

19:11

Symon: Yeah.

19:12

Adam: Dogs on it and stuff.

19:13

Tommy: Think about it. If Snoop's just smoking a blunt and he's like, look at this, come here. Hey, dude, blah, blah, blah. Send. Hey, dude, send. And he's made, I mean, he's, he's, it's a bit silly for a guy like him who's making heaps of money anyway. But there is a bunch of comedians that it plays into their strength. Like they just talk shit and they're just funny. And so they just rip into people.

19:32

Symon: So you'd also be able to do the same one over and over.

19:34

Adam: Like you do one to someone who's in England and then you do one to someone who's in New York and then you can do exactly the same joke.

19:39

Josh: Yeah, super easy. Well, I feel like Peter Hitchener would be great at it, but I think he's doing that shit for free. He seems like that kind of guy.

19:46

Symon: Yeah, he just seems like a lovely guy who would just do your voicemail.

19:50

Tommy: Have you been hit up, um, to do any— I mean, Cameo is one of those things, it's like a bit different. Have you been hit up to do any kind of endorsements or unusual shit?

19:58

Symon: Ours is mostly, uh, hey, we're finishing Year 12 next week. Yeah, can you say congratulations?

20:04

Tommy: I mean, you don't get paid, so you're just doing that.

20:06

Symon: You're doing just a cameo. We're just doing free cameos. We could make money off this.

20:10

Tommy: You're just doing charity work.

20:11

Symon: So rich.

20:12

Adam: Now we're doing— I mean, you guys can can't obviously tell, but we're doing Movember.

20:16

Symon: Yeah, we're doing Movember. Oh yeah, so that's our endorsement.

20:18

Josh: It suits you guys so well that I didn't even pick up on it.

20:21

Symon: Exactly, you just went hipster.

20:23

Josh: It's normal.

20:23

Tommy: Yeah, it's kind of just blending in.

20:26

Adam: Yeah, mine's very blonde.

20:27

Josh: You're Simon with a Y, so of course you have a mow.

20:31

Symon: It'd be weirder if you didn't. Yeah, absolutely.

20:34

Josh: You've got to keep it.

20:35

Adam: A mow and a top knot.

20:36

Tommy: Has Movember always been about mental health? I mean, I've just been distracted by the men's health.

20:41

Symon: I think it started as testicular health first.

20:43

Josh: Yeah.

20:43

Symon: And then they've kind of pivoted and tacked on mental health as they've become more prevalent.

20:49

Adam: Is that an Adelaide? Yeah, just a couple of blokes sitting around a pub.

20:52

Tommy: Where all good mows start.

20:53

Symon: Where all good mows start. Good mows and mullets.

20:55

Tommy: Because I saw you guys have nearly hit your target.

20:58

Symon: We're close. Yeah, we're very close. So we've got one week to go.

21:01

Adam: People are more than welcome to donate if they like.

21:03

Symon: It's mobro.co/adamsimon. Thanks for the advice.

21:06

Adam: Simon with a Y. Simon with a Y.

21:09

Tommy: Don't fuck that up. Can you cheque if there's a mobro.co, if there is an Adam and Simon with an I?

21:13

Adam: No, and just Adam Simon.

21:16

Tommy: Adam Simon, cheque the I.

21:18

Josh: You'd be—

21:19

Tommy: we don't want those guys getting your donation. Imagine they've got heaps of cash and like, damn it, it's the korowa all over again.

21:25

Adam: We sent it to the wrong town. Well, you'd be— are you the only Simon Lovett in the world with a Y?

21:31

Symon: No, well, apparently, because I just got an invite to a meeting at work from like another person, like an outside person, and I can order what's going on.

21:42

Josh: Yes, redundancies.

21:43

Symon: I was like, you must have a job here, guys. We've ditched the other guy. No, but so because we consult to this other company and they, the person who we consult who sent me an email inviting me to talk about something that I have no idea for, I called them and said like, hey, do you, do I need to be at this meeting? Because it seems very unfamiliar to me.

22:00

Adam: Talk about robotics for us.

22:01

Symon: No, so someone has started at work with the same name, Simon Lovett.

22:05

Tommy: Wow.

22:05

Symon: Spelt the same and everything. Really? I don't buy into it too much, but I got the wrong invite, so I guess there must be someone. So she just types in S-Y-M-O-N and then I must be the author.

22:15

Josh: Surely it's not the same Simon.

22:18

Symon: It cannot be the same.

22:19

Josh: That's impossible. Have you guys got your own .coms?

22:22

Symon: Nah.

22:23

Josh: No.

22:23

Symon: You guys have your .coms?

22:24

Josh: Yeah, definitely. Yeah.

22:25

Adam: Are you the only Tommy Jacket in the world?

22:27

Tommy: Uh, the second cousin of my dad's is Tom Jacket.

22:32

Adam: Yeah, right.

22:33

Tommy: But he's old and doesn't care about social media, so technically I am.

22:36

Symon: Have you got the .coms and the .aus?

22:39

Tommy: I had the .com, .au, but I was like, fuck it.

22:41

Josh: I got rid of the .aus.

22:42

Tommy: Just keep the big one. We're international.

22:45

Symon: Yeah.

22:46

Adam: When was the last time you .au'd anything? When you're putting it into a search bar.

22:50

Josh: News.com.au.

22:52

Symon: Yeah.

22:52

Adam: Well, because that's just on your autocomplete. That's Symes like daily check.

22:55

Symon: Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's in my daily routine.

22:56

Tommy: The thing is, for businesses in Australia, it helps having .com.au.

23:01

Symon: Yeah, because they search it.

23:02

Josh: Well, it's good for SEO, but they've just released .au as its own domain.

23:08

Symon: So it's just .au.

23:09

Josh: So you could, I think, address .au.

23:11

Symon: Oh, really?

23:12

Josh: People are very upset because it's a bit of a money grab because you imagine everyone's got to secure their domain name. Like if you've got a business, it's like, I just need to get the .au.

23:22

Symon: Who gets that money?

23:23

Adam: I think it's like GoDaddy and stuff, but like where do they buy it?

23:26

Tommy: So the .au, you need an ABN to get one. So you can get like a .me, which is for some country. So is there something to do with the country? So this 97 is probably—

23:38

Josh: so it's all AU. What is it called? 97? What's the, um, governing body. So all of them—

23:43

Adam: AU Domain Administration. Yeah, but who gets the money?

23:46

Tommy: Oh, AusDomain. Yeah. So it's—

23:48

Josh: there's a, there's a gov— like each government, I believe, that—

23:52

Symon: because .tv—

23:53

Josh: oh yeah, .tv is an island, like a random island, and luckily they just got .tv. They're making Hollywood, you know, so they're making bank on the internet.

24:05

Tommy: Used to be a personal trainer, boys. Um, Stop bragging. A couple of years, 8 years actually. One of my clients has moved back to the NZ and now he's the boss of .nz. Oh, so he's this— I don't know, I found him on— but I could ask him where's the money go.

24:24

Josh: Then like, I'm sure we could Google it.

24:26

Adam: Are they the top of the tree? Who? The .nz company.

24:31

Tommy: So he worked— it's a government.

24:33

Symon: So the government would own it and then they would then like GoDaddy would buy it off.

24:37

Adam: What I'm asking is who owns the internet?

24:40

Josh: It's a good question.

24:40

Tommy: And who— is there cable running from Australia across the sea?

24:45

Josh: There is.

24:46

Tommy: Absolutely mind-fucking mind-blowing.

24:47

Josh: That's how it works.

24:48

Tommy: How deep is that thing?

24:49

Symon: Yeah, is it just— does it float?

24:51

Tommy: Yeah, what is that?

24:52

Josh: There must be some form of moving, you'd think.

24:54

Tommy: He looks like he wants to chime in. Young man wants to chime in.

24:56

Adam: So I've just found you can spend $185K and you can get your own dot whatever. Well, you can't get .tv, that's taken. Yeah, but you could do .tommy.

25:05

Symon: Ah, so you can get Tommy.Tommy.

25:08

Tommy: Tommy.Jacket.

25:09

Josh: I nearly got Josh.Travel for $350 a few years ago.

25:14

Adam: Seems like the price has gone down a bit.

25:16

Symon: Were you thinking just travel? You were just going to go full travel?

25:20

Josh: No, I just felt I wanted a Josh.something.

25:23

Symon: Yeah.

25:24

Josh: And I remember sending this real arrogant email to the guy that owns Josh.com.au. Just been like, mate, you don't need this, but I do. Which is so arrogant, isn't it?

25:36

Adam: And what did he reply?

25:37

Josh: What did he reply? He replied nothing. He must get that shit all the time.

25:41

Tommy: I mean, it's a power move. The guys who own Dropbox.com rocked up to the guy's house who previously owned Dropbox.com.

25:49

Josh: Whoa.

25:49

Tommy: He's like, I want it, I need it. And then he kept on following up and ended up buying it for a couple hundred thousand dollars. They offered him equity in the company and he said, nah, I want money.

26:00

Adam: Always say yes to equity.

26:02

Josh: No, unless you're Fitbit.

26:05

Tommy: Fitbit, I mean, they're just old.

26:07

Adam: Yeah, or MySpace.

26:08

Josh: Yeah, I mean, yeah, there's a—

26:09

Tommy: but I actually—

26:09

Symon: even MySpace, you still make money.

26:11

Josh: But look at the— if you look at the equity of Dropbox, is Dropbox like a real—

26:16

Tommy: they make a lot of money.

26:18

Josh: Look up there.

26:19

Adam: Subscriptions, because you need bigger—

26:21

Tommy: no, they've locked you in. You've filled your drive and you just need to keep paying to access.

26:26

Adam: You need like a bigger iCloud.

26:27

Josh: Why isn't there a good one. Like, I feel like Dropbox, Google Drive, they've all got their quirks.

26:32

Symon: Drive's— I reckon Drive's the best. That's good.

26:35

Josh: Dropbox, yes, because it does all that stuff.

26:38

Tommy: What does it smell like?

26:39

Josh: If it actually had a scent, it would be cardboard.

26:42

Symon: Like, it would be very cardboardy.

26:44

Tommy: Like, cardboard shit.

26:45

Adam: Yeah, just with a bit of burnt brown rice sprinkled over the top.

26:48

Symon: And just— ah, the user experience, horrible. My new word, UX.

26:52

Adam: There you go. This The Dropbox storey happened on a TV show called The League. Have you seen it?

26:59

Symon: No.

26:59

Adam: So it's like they talked about it. Yeah. So they did a similar thing. So it's a comedy show about these guys who run a fantasy football league, and one of the guys is like the stupid guy, and he's like the guy who can't— who, if he had another brain cell, it'd be lonely. And he's there and he buys Cowboys.com, and because it's about American football, he buys Cowboys.com, and Jerry Jones comes to buy the domain name off him and he refuses to. And Jerry keeps upping it and upping it up and he sells it for like $6 million or something.

27:24

Josh: Have you ever—

27:26

Tommy: Is it real or not?

27:28

Josh: That's why I can't watch TV.

27:29

Tommy: I don't know what's real or what's not. You got me.

27:34

Josh: Have you guys ever bought a domain name?

27:37

Adam: Yeah, we did.

27:38

Symon: Yeah, we did.

27:38

Adam: Yeah. So we— Do we talk? Yeah, we'll talk about it. We were going to start a website that was called The Uneditorial. And so it was like kind of like, you know, The Players Tribune.

27:49

Symon: You've seen that?

27:50

Adam: So it's like a website where sports people write articles. So if someone gets traded, they might be like, oh, thank you to Atlanta, you've been awesome. And I became who I am because of you guys.

28:00

Josh: But it was like that medium, but for only for athletes.

28:04

Symon: Yeah.

28:04

Adam: And like long-form stuff. Yeah. And so very like personal things. And then we were like, oh, let's just do this for celebrities.

28:11

Symon: Yeah. So we're going to call it The Uneditorial.

28:13

Josh: And how far along did you get?

28:14

Adam: We bought the domain name.

28:16

Symon: Yeah, we got the domain name. We got the website.

28:18

Adam: Business cards.

28:19

Symon: Business cards.

28:19

Josh: You got business cards?

28:21

Adam: I have 500.

28:24

Tommy: Haven't given one away.

28:25

Adam: Does Mum count?

28:27

Tommy: Yeah.

28:27

Symon: Check out this guy's. She wanted 3.

28:29

Tommy: Yeah. So you got the extra one on the box that shows you what you got.

28:33

Symon: Exactly. Yeah. And the box, you're like, oh, now I know what's in there. Don't need to open it. It's fine.

28:37

Josh: And when did it just fizzle out? Or what was the—

28:40

Tommy: Too much admin.

28:40

Symon: Yeah. We were kind of— became very— well, it wasn't too difficult, but then we just weren't kind of allowed to progress it as far as we also needed.

28:48

Adam: We needed 2 people worth of admin and I contribute 1. And Simon was like, well, I've only got 50% of me, so we fucked up.

28:54

Symon: I know a guy.

28:55

Adam: Yeah.

28:56

Josh: On the Dropbox thing, they were criticised because they were basically buying out, like booking this soccer field, like so local— Dropbox. So the Dropbox team, they were like, they worked nearby this soccer field and they're like, oh, we'd love to play at lunchtime, but these kids are always using it. And so they fucking contacted the council and was like, hey guys, we want to pay to, to rent the space.

29:25

Tommy: Yeah.

29:25

Josh: And so they kicked all the kids out. It became a big deal.

29:28

Tommy: Money can get you anything, can't it?

29:30

Josh: Well, that's what we feel like being in LA. It did have that feeling. Yeah, you could buy, you could spend cash and you could get anything. Yeah.

29:37

Symon: How long were you guys there for?

29:38

Tommy: Couple of weeks.

29:40

Adam: Yeah.

29:40

Symon: It's, um, did you, what was, what was one thing that you would spend cash on to get when you're in LA where you're like, right, we've just got to, I like it as a convenience.

29:49

Josh: Yeah. Yeah. That's a good question.

29:51

Symon: Or if you wanted to get into somewhere or, oh, we spent it because it was a work trip.

29:56

Tommy: Like I've been there.

29:57

Symon: So everything was just put it all on the credit card.

29:58

Tommy: No, no, no, we were trying to budget. I've been loose over there with a credit card before where you're buying clothes and shit.

30:04

Symon: Yeah.

30:05

Tommy: But we didn't really— it wasn't that kind of a trip.

30:07

Josh: We didn't buy any. I didn't bring anything home with me.

30:11

Adam: What was the worst part of the trip? I don't care about the best part.

30:14

Josh: The worst part. Oh yeah, that's a good one too.

30:17

Adam: What about Mr. 97? You got something over there?

30:19

Josh: Yeah. What do you reckon the worst part was?

30:20

Tommy: The worst part?

30:23

Adam: I mean, it wasn't great seeing all the homeless.

30:27

Tommy: Yeah, the homeless on the street.

30:28

Adam: I was a bit annoyed.

30:30

Josh: What about when Tommy and I called each other cunts? Yeah, yeah, that wasn't great.

30:35

Symon: That was at the end. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

30:37

Josh: Yeah, that's fine.

30:38

Tommy: Almost home.

30:39

Adam: We got home.

30:40

Josh: Yeah, yeah, we, um, we dragged it the whole way to final day.

30:43

Adam: So annoying.

30:44

Symon: It was like a couple hours left.

30:45

Tommy: Oh dude, we, um, we were filming like we do 3 episodes a day or something and we, we got out of the car and we came inside and I had the camera in my hand and it was dark. We had to— I had the key as well, so I'm like, okay, if I can put the camera down here, open it, and then we went in And then we came out to go for dinner an hour later and I'd left the camera on the ground.

31:07

Josh: And it's just like— 97 cannot be cool about anything. He has to overreact.

31:11

Symon: Oh, what?

31:13

Josh: Ah, are you kidding me?

31:14

Tommy: Yeah, I think you can just get lucky, right?

31:16

Symon: Yeah.

31:17

Tommy: I think that we just got lucky with that.

31:19

Josh: It didn't get stolen.

31:20

Tommy: Yeah, it went seamless. The trip was mostly seamless.

31:22

Adam: I left a camera on the, like, on a bus in Switzerland and got it back as well. The Swiss, mate, the Swiss are the best people ever.

31:29

Josh: Really?

31:29

Adam: It was like a bus that anyone call you a shit on there, like on one of our trips on the above bit, that like bit above the seats. Yeah, yeah, above bit. It was in there.

31:40

Symon: Yeah.

31:41

Adam: And someone went like, uh, had found it and then came back 2 stops because we got off and came and found me.

31:46

Tommy: Wow.

31:47

Symon: Yeah, that's incredible.

31:48

Tommy: Um, Sophie Monk just posted a photo recently where she, she, there was a pap photo of her at the airport and she said the only reason I remember that I left my laptop on the plane was from this pap photo. Or she's like, doesn't have it in her hand and she must have had the—

32:03

Adam: Oh no.

32:03

Josh: I actually deconstructed a little bit more because she said that. She said, the only way I worked out that my laptop was on the plane. I think what may have happened, because I straight away went there, same as you. But I think what happened was she worked out that she didn't have her laptop. Then she was like, where did I leave it? And then she looked at the photo and was like, it was gone.

32:26

Adam: How quick did the pap photo go up?

32:27

Josh: Yeah, I mean, if you're calling them— yeah, right. Have you guys ever been papped?

32:34

Symon: No, no, no. We, we've been to a few like events, and if there's a media wall, that is not bad. Yeah, no, this is— I'm going to give you the context. We will get like an organised photo on a media wall that you will never see again. Yeah, so like people are there to take photos of you standing in front of a wall, and what happens to them? Never get published. No way.

32:55

Tommy: Oh, I mean, these events just have a folder or something.

32:59

Josh: Getting in a Dropbox or something.

33:01

Tommy: Yeah, like in a Dropbox somewhere.

33:02

Adam: This is where Dropbox is making their money.

33:04

Tommy: It's just unused celebrity photos, just event photos.

33:08

Josh: I would like that photo though.

33:10

Tommy: We went to an MTV event the other day.

33:11

Symon: What was the event?

33:12

Josh: It was Unplugged.

33:13

Tommy: So it's, you know, the famous Unplugged. They've been doing it for years. Um, Courtney Barnett.

33:18

Symon: Oh, good on Courtney.

33:19

Tommy: Kelly was there. Yeah, it was great. Sort of, um, the Arbory.

33:22

Josh: No. Is it the Arboretum next to the river?

33:25

Tommy: Uh, no, no, no, no, I'm thinking the Avery. I don't know, it's in, um, I think it's Avery, maybe Northside.

33:30

Adam: Avery, like around the corner, Coburg.

33:32

Tommy: It's in like, it's new out that way.

33:34

Symon: It's a new place.

33:34

Tommy: No, it's like down an alleyway. And anyway, it's like an open roof, feels sick. And so she played and we were there, but we got a photo when we walk in. Yeah, but I was thinking, where is this going? Where does this go? Hopefully in the social pages.

33:46

Josh: Song called Depreston. Yeah, it's very funny because we were there for, um, Visit Victoria. They'd invited us or whatever.

33:54

Tommy: Yeah.

33:54

Josh: And Visit Victoria had collaborated with MTV on it. And you listen to the depressed, depressed and lonely.

33:59

Symon: I'm never going there ever.

34:01

Adam: It's like, guys, I need to leave Victoria right now.

34:04

Josh: It's my son. I was just sort of like bopping along, loving it.

34:08

Tommy: Smoking bongs in Preston or something like that.

34:11

Josh: Looks like a nice house. Yeah.

34:13

Tommy: Mattress out the front.

34:15

Adam: Yeah.

34:15

Symon: Good song.

34:16

Tommy: You guys actually have jobs outside of you.

34:17

Symon: Yeah, professionals. So we're both physios, that's where we met. So we met at uni doing physiotherapy and now that's what we do full time.

34:27

Tommy: So I like it because you're not— someone's phone's going off.

34:31

Josh: Is that yours? That might be your 2-hour—

34:34

Tommy: I don't know, mate, my phone doesn't work, I can't put an alarm on.

34:36

Symon: Oh, here we go, guys.

34:37

Tommy: Don't you know?

34:38

Josh: Is that a Christmas tune? I fucking hope not.

34:40

Adam: That's mine.

34:40

Symon: Can you tell it's my first guest appearance on a podcast? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

34:45

Tommy: Has that happened during the filming of, um, Gogglebox?

34:49

Adam: Uh, my mum called.

34:50

Symon: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

34:52

Adam: I mean, we filmed for like— we filmed for a fair bit of time.

34:56

Josh: Yeah, be careful, mate, with what you're saying.

34:58

Adam: Someone listening.

34:59

Josh: A bit too much. But the breaks are so quick.

35:03

Adam: Yeah, we could be on the phone for 45 minutes.

35:05

Tommy: Yeah. Did it ever make it in?

35:06

Adam: No, I think my mum got in there once.

35:08

Symon: Really? I think so.

35:10

Adam: Yeah, she loved it. She was like, look, I made my own language or something like that.

35:13

Tommy: Um, Adam, your brother's a professional actor. I've been on many, many, uh, specialists. If everyone's looking Is that his job?

35:20

Adam: No, he's a plumber.

35:21

Tommy: Okay, so it's good that you've got trades. Like, I think there's a bunch of people who would be trying to get on reality shows that are just like, I'm done with that shit. Yeah, I'm done with my physio.

35:31

Symon: I think just being a full flat-out reality star, it definitely removes a lot of pressure. So you can have your real job. Yeah, you're not like fully invested. Like, you're not just banking on this having to work. Yeah, which I think probably happens. Definitely would happen to people where they're like, right, this is it. And that's where they push really hard. And I reckon that's probably where maybe a bit of oversaturation happens. I don't know.

35:51

Tommy: How many opportunities have come, do you think? Or are you just pretty focused on being a physio and doing the fun stuff on the side?

35:59

Symon: Uh, I think it's probably changing a little bit. So we're probably going more towards— you get to do fun stuff. It's fun. Yeah, being on the show, people will ask you to do stuff and your bosses roll their eyes.

36:09

Josh: I feel like if I was a physio and I was legit and I had a team member that I was managing that was doing this fucking silly TV shit.

36:19

Symon: Yeah.

36:19

Josh: Does it— is there any sort of friction there or is it—

36:22

Symon: my boss loves it.

36:23

Josh: Yeah, he gets around it. Yeah, yeah.

36:25

Symon: And it actually brings people in.

36:27

Adam: So you might suck at your job, but geez, I'll come and see him because he's funny.

36:31

Tommy: Has he offered you equity?

36:33

Symon: Yeah, yeah, it's like, stick around, mate. Because there's like a whole Essendon bubble. That's where I work, in Essendon. There's this thing called the Essendon bubble, which I'd imagine would be in every part where it's like, well, there's like the Brighton bubble.

36:44

Tommy: Exactly. Puckle Street, you know.

36:46

Symon: Yeah, exactly. So then everyone kind of talks to each other. So people will walk in and say, like, I'll be treating them like, are you the guy from Gogglebox? Is he here? Like, yeah, he's here. He's definitely here. He definitely works here. 100%. Ah, cool. Is that weird working with a guy from the TV? I'm like, I do it every day. It's pretty normal.

37:08

Adam: The best is that guy when you were treating him and he was like, oh, that bloody shit Gogglebox, they'll put anything on TV these days.

37:14

Symon: Yeah, absolutely.

37:16

Josh: I don't normally do realignments, but I can fucking sort your neck out.

37:20

Tommy: I didn't think I was at the chiro.

37:22

Josh: Yeah, broke his neck. Um, do you think that you could tell, uh, someone's issues with their walking based on the sole of their shoe?

37:32

Adam: Uh, that's probably podiatrist, but you get an idea.

37:34

Josh: Yeah, I could definitely figure something out because I was looking at my shoe and look at how much—

37:39

Tommy: oh, you're saying where you know that's where the wear is.

37:41

Symon: That's where you want it to be.

37:43

Tommy: So it's at the sort of—

37:44

Adam: yeah, are you giving out free advice here? Because I'm not giving out free advice.

37:47

Josh: This is great.

37:48

Symon: Yeah, I'm okay. I do cameos for free.

37:51

Josh: From this thong.

37:52

Symon: Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad. Oh, that's not— what's it look like at the bottom?

37:56

Tommy: It's, um, it's fresh.

37:57

Adam: I haven't walked in the mud.

37:58

Tommy: Yeah, he's worked out they're pretty new.

38:00

Symon: That's good news.

38:02

Josh: He's very good. What's the first question you ask someone when they come in, a patient? What's your standard? How you going?

38:10

Symon: How you going? How's he doing?

38:11

Josh: What's the second one?

38:12

Symon: What hurts?

38:13

Adam: What hurts? What brings you in today?

38:16

Tommy: Are you looking for the pain being a signal that something else is? Always like, oh, my lower back's like— It's your shoulder.

38:22

Symon: Yeah, exactly.

38:24

Tommy: And you're always, fuck off, it's my back.

38:25

Symon: It's definitely my back.

38:27

Tommy: Fucking kill.

38:28

Symon: 100% my back.

38:29

Josh: I mean, yeah, I mean, the, um, what brings you in today is quite universal. You could work at a TGI Fridays.

38:35

Adam: Exactly right. I'm just kicking you.

38:37

Josh: You say what hurts. I actually just wanted the burger.

38:41

Symon: Wait, I don't get onion rings from here?

38:43

Adam: I'm keeping my job options open so I can be like, what brings you in today? Like, you guys could have started with that today. I'll be like, you asked us here.

38:49

Tommy: Well, I opened with beers. Yeah, I had 2 10-packs of some nice beer cans.

38:55

Symon: That was a really good start.

38:56

Tommy: Moondog.

38:56

Symon: Really good start. Have you guys been to Moondog World?

38:59

Tommy: No, my—

39:00

Josh: what's Moondog World?

39:02

Tommy: It's epic. I've stopped drinking this year, so—

39:04

Symon: oh, how's it going?

39:05

Tommy: Yeah, it's great.

39:05

Josh: I've started, Josh has started, but I can't go to Moondog World.

39:10

Tommy: It's just like—

39:11

Symon: it's a bit lost on you.

39:11

Tommy: It's made for drinking. My wife was actually there with my son, our son, and he threw something into the lagoon. So it's like this indoor—

39:20

Josh: what does that mean?

39:20

Tommy: So there's— so there's literally— it's a shed, huge fuck-off shed, and there's like like legit lagoons, like fountains, and then like sunbaking areas with no sun.

39:29

Josh: What makes it a world? What do we think? Like, where's the line?

39:32

Tommy: It needs 20,000 square feet.

39:34

Josh: Yeah, yeah.

39:35

Adam: I think it's based— isn't it supposed to be like a theme park? Like, I mean, there's no roller coasters.

39:40

Symon: It's not Duff World.

39:41

Tommy: Yeah, that was sick.

39:43

Josh: There's a Battery World.

39:45

Adam: Battery World is in like—

39:46

Tommy: full breakdown of Duff World.

39:48

Symon: Yeah, yeah.

39:49

Adam: But when there's like a pool lagoon in the middle, when Tommy talks about the lagoon, it's like, what, 6 inches deep or something.

39:56

Tommy: You say 17 still?

39:57

Symon: You could drown in it.

39:58

Josh: 6 inches?

39:59

Adam: Yeah, that's not impressive.

40:00

Tommy: No, no, it's not impressive.

40:02

Adam: We've got a pool, we've got a lagoon, but it's like wide, it's huge.

40:05

Symon: Yeah, you definitely don't want a deep pool when there's drunk people.

40:07

Tommy: No, there's— they've got so many beers on tap. It looks great. I want to get in there in the summer. I can drink again next year.

40:13

Symon: Oh, when's next year?

40:14

Adam: When's your— like, is it midnight 2020?

40:18

Tommy: Uh, yeah, I reckon I'll push it out to maybe the second or third. Where I might have a first drink, second or third.

40:23

Symon: Just what's the first drink? How's that going?

40:25

Adam: What are you going to have?

40:26

Tommy: So we're driving back from Sydney. There's a great place to stop in this little town. We randomly found it.

40:32

Adam: No, no, it is on the way back.

40:34

Tommy: It's not as far as Dog in the Tucker Box, closer to Sydney. 3 hours out of Sydney.

40:38

Symon: Right. And submarine, is it Canberra?

40:40

Tommy: I don't remember the name of it. Sizzlers. We literally stumbled upon it one night. We were doing the phone, phoning ahead to find a place for us to stay.

40:49

Josh: Remember Dick Smith did a big campaign maybe about a year and a half ago where he was like, don't use the website, call up your hotel.

40:57

Adam: I love it. Really?

40:58

Josh: No, you reckon you can get a better deal? It's a bit annoying travelling and trying to do that.

41:04

Symon: How much is your time worth?

41:05

Josh: Exactly. That's a good point. Bring it up with Dick.

41:07

Tommy: What's Dick up to?

41:09

Symon: You're a billionaire.

41:10

Adam: Yeah, it's also very easy to make those like, it's got— it's fine, guys, you'll save a bit of money. It's like like, yeah, Dickie, worth heaps of cash.

41:15

Symon: Yeah. And you've probably got someone who calls for you.

41:17

Tommy: Yeah. Yeah. He's got a PA. Yeah.

41:19

Josh: He owns the hotel.

41:21

Tommy: So yeah, it's this little place, staying in the shitty accommodation. But there's this really nice— nah, it's not as far, it's near, a little bit, a little bit closer to Sydney than Goulburn. We're nearly there.

41:31

Symon: This is like the Subway channel.

41:32

Tommy: We're nearly there. Anyway, so there's a great place.

41:34

Josh: Was it ranch sauce? Ranch sauce?

41:36

Tommy: Great outdoor area. What's that? What's the ranch sauce?

41:40

Adam: Marinara.

41:42

Symon: We just did on our, um, on our show.

41:44

Josh: I got a podcast.

41:45

Symon: We just got the guys to guess what Subway I ordered because I'm on a fast food ban.

41:49

Adam: What do you reckon? Looking at Simon now, what do you reckon?

41:50

Josh: What?

41:51

Adam: He had a footlong Subway.

41:52

Tommy: Yeah. And so, and you're on a fast food ban?

41:55

Adam: Yeah.

41:55

Tommy: Oh, you've tried to blow out.

41:56

Symon: It was 10 o'clock.

41:58

Tommy: Yeah, you've gone some fucking, um, steak, Philly steak style shit with cheese and like it's got a lot of sauce and it should never do, never do meat.

42:07

Josh: And Subway is my rule. Really? That's how you shit your pants.

42:10

Adam: Yeah, it's like a man who's got experience.

42:13

Josh: Yeah, well, they're just anything that's got the grill lines painted on. Yeah, and then they put it in the microwave.

42:20

Symon: That's my style. Chicken fillet. Yeah, I got, uh, rye, footlong rye, because that was the last bun. Bun, sure. That he had.

42:29

Josh: Yeah, yeah, the last sub.

42:32

Tommy: Yeah, sub.

42:33

Symon: And then chicken fillet What? Lettuce, tomato, heaps of spinach. Any jalapeños?

42:37

Josh: No.

42:38

Symon: Olives? No.

42:38

Adam: We had lettuce and spinach. Do you think that's overkill?

42:41

Tommy: Yeah, but you said lettuce and then spinach.

42:44

Symon: Yeah, well, just whatever lettuce.

42:45

Adam: I think it might be an iceberg. Definitely not having coles. Yeah, coles is too expensive.

42:48

Symon: Iceberg's bang for buck.

42:49

Josh: I think they need to change the way that they put the tuna on. Using a fucking—

42:54

Adam: I've never seen it.

42:55

Tommy: It's not your problem, dude.

42:57

Adam: You don't know what to make there. It's an ice cream scoop.

42:59

Tommy: It's not a problem for you, so don't stress it.

43:01

Josh: No, we— In and Out happened. Ah, and so I did 4 weeks of being veggie after I watched that doco. Yeah, bandwagoners.

43:12

Tommy: I mean, Game Changers.

43:13

Symon: Yeah.

43:13

Josh: And so I gave it a go.

43:14

Symon: No, I gave it a go. Cows eat grass, we should just eat grass, cut out the middleman.

43:17

Josh: Yeah, yeah.

43:18

Tommy: I get what you mean, this scoop, the fucking—

43:22

Josh: Yeah, leave scoops for Messina. Not fucking tuna. It doesn't make sense. And I don't know how we got there.

43:30

Symon: Yeah, because I want to hear the rest of your story. So you were driving back from— Yeah, yeah.

43:34

Josh: This is—

43:34

Adam: you're going to go to the first place.

43:35

Josh: Yeah, that's not Goulburn.

43:36

Adam: Yeah, that's close.

43:37

Tommy: So we found this place and it's awesome. And then as we've gone back every year because my wife lives in Sydney, we drive up most years around Christmas, we stop at this place and we stay. And then this sick pub has been resurrected. It was this old school joint. And so now it's got this big garden playground area.

43:53

Symon: The Katoomba pub.

43:54

Tommy: Not as far. No, no, not as far.

43:57

Adam: Edimoga.

43:57

Symon: Edimoga Park.

43:58

Adam: That's near Aubrey.

43:59

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, it's actually way—

44:00

Symon: it's way away.

44:01

Tommy: Oh fuck, what is it? Um, I'll get— I wish if I had my phone I'd be able to find it.

44:05

Symon: Do you want me to call you? My phone's—

44:06

Josh: that won't help.

44:07

Tommy: My swipe screen's gone. Yeah, so I cannot open— like, I've hard reset, won't open. So I can't—

44:14

Josh: I'm gonna go to a Genius.

44:15

Tommy: I gotta go to the Genius.

44:16

Symon: That stinks, couple of appointments though because your phone doesn't work.

44:19

Tommy: No, I did it on my—

44:20

Adam: I was gonna say you have to book way ahead because I went there being like, I'm only gonna have to wait 15 minutes for a Genius appointment, and they're like, yeah, there's one next Tuesday.

44:27

Tommy: Where do you— which one?

44:29

Adam: Ah, Shoppo. Went to Doncaster.

44:31

Josh: We talk a lot about Shoppo here.

44:32

Tommy: Dude, I got into Shoppo for $3.05 today.

44:35

Symon: Who went on a date with—

44:38

Tommy: I took my wife to Shoppo.

44:40

Symon: Yeah, on a date.

44:41

Josh: To Ashley's Foot specifically.

44:43

Symon: Kids off.

44:43

Adam: You've been to— I've never been to Chatty. I've never been to Chatty.

44:46

Symon: It's the biggest shopping centre in the Southern Hemisphere.

44:48

Adam: They just put a hotel in.

44:49

Symon: It's so big. I've never been. It's overwhelmingly big.

44:52

Tommy: Yeah. It's sick though. It makes you feel like you're in Singapore or something.

44:56

Josh: Like it's of that level where they're spending millions, like billions of dollars or something.

45:02

Symon: I heard with Chadstone, they actually own 3, not 3 blocks, but 3 rows of houses around. So the whole Chadstone shopping centre will then own the houses that are next to it. 3 houses.

45:13

Adam: It's like Lindsay Fox in Portsea, how he's just like buying everything out.

45:16

Tommy: It's a Gandell family, I think it is. Yeah.

45:18

Adam: He also owns Port Leo Estate. That like big winery and art place on down near Flinders. He owns that too.

45:24

Tommy: Who's that, Lindsay Fox or Gandell?

45:26

Symon: Yeah. Yeah.

45:26

Josh: And Mr. 97 got some presents because it was, it was his birthday while we're away. Where did, where did your mum go?

45:34

Symon: Shopper.

45:34

Josh: Yeah. What's, what store?

45:36

Adam: Milligram.

45:37

Josh: Milligram. Do you guys know Milligram?

45:38

Symon: No.

45:39

Josh: It's the best stationery store there is. 97 actually brought in, what are they called?

45:44

Adam: What'd you get, pen?

45:44

Symon: Better than typo?

45:45

Adam: I got, yeah, it's one of those rubbers that you type on.

45:48

Symon: You piece of shit.

45:51

Adam: My sister-in-law used to be the visual merchandiser for them.

45:54

Josh: Beautiful stores, visually beautiful, product interesting.

45:59

Adam: Do you want these?

46:00

Josh: Yeah. Did she work in Geelong? Cotton On?

46:03

Adam: No, she's not anymore. She has design school, which is opposite yours.

46:06

Symon: Whoa.

46:07

Josh: Okay, so what is it? So these are Japanese incense sticks.

46:11

Symon: That's nice.

46:12

Josh: And a holder. And so this was given to Mr. 97. Why did you bring it in today?

46:17

Adam: Because I wanted to make the studio smell nice.

46:19

Josh: What does it smell like, guys? Does it smell like barley or something?

46:21

Symon: It does smell, yeah.

46:23

Tommy: So it could be the thing that's in front of you that smells. Because I smelled it, I thought it was a bushfire.

46:28

Josh: It smells like licorice.

46:29

Symon: Licoricey.

46:30

Josh: Yeah, aniseedy.

46:31

Tommy: It was going earlier, but it has gone unless it's just our nostrils.

46:36

Adam: Smells like ouzo.

46:36

Tommy: It doesn't smell like that anymore.

46:38

Symon: It smells fresher though.

46:39

Tommy: That is real good.

46:40

Josh: But Milligram is great.

46:41

Adam: Do you keep it in the box because you're trying to preserve the scent, 97? Yeah, well, because when you light them, it doesn't actually smell like that.

46:48

Tommy: Yeah, that's, that's an absolute scam.

46:50

Josh: Milligrams, a great company. And so typo, by the way, mix them up.

46:56

Tommy: Yeah, great visual merchandising.

46:58

Josh: Um, it's beautiful. What's your favorite, uh, food establishment at Shop-O at the food court there? A lot of options.

47:04

Adam: Well, I actually haven't— this was like the second time I've been to Shop-O.

47:08

Josh: Really?

47:08

Adam: I haven't been there that often.

47:09

Symon: What'd you think?

47:10

Adam: Uh, it was They're big and overwhelming.

47:12

Tommy: I just need to— I mean, you know, I just want to be big and overwhelming.

47:16

Symon: I don't want to go to Cranston then. You'll—

47:18

Tommy: that's big, overwhelming.

47:19

Adam: I need the screen where I'm like, you're searching for this store.

47:22

Josh: And so what were you looking for? Do you remember?

47:24

Adam: Uh, yeah, looking for the Genius Bar. Yeah, the iPhone.

47:26

Josh: Oh, okay, sure.

47:27

Adam: Yeah, and then I was looking for Lotto because I bought a Powerball ticket.

47:29

Josh: So you went, you went to the Apple Store? Yeah. Without— like, you actually drove? Yeah, yeah, to Shoppo. You never go to Shoppo?

47:37

Tommy: It's from Gogoball.

47:39

Adam: Box.

47:39

Josh: Did you— have you thrown that out there?

47:43

Adam: I was like, I actually turned up to the Apple Store and I was like, geez, a lot of people in here.

47:49

Symon: There is, isn't it?

47:51

Adam: I was like, it's fine, they must all just be shopping, so I'll be able to get an appointment. I was like, I can't be waiting more than 15 minutes, I'll just wait. And so I went up there, I think it was a Friday, and I was like, hey, busiest day. Yeah, I just finished work too, so it was 5 o'clock.

48:05

Tommy: And as had everybody else who was there.

48:08

Symon: I'll just pop in.

48:10

Adam: That's what I thought. And I popped in and the girls— I was like, hey, um, just need to— I'd lost some stuff from my, uh, from my Google Drive.

48:19

Symon: And they went, this is Apple.

48:21

Adam: No, no. So I'd lost some stuff from my notes.

48:23

Josh: That's why there's so many appointments. There's fucking— yeah, Twitter's fucking— I got a mean tweet.

48:29

Symon: How do I delete it?

48:30

Adam: No, I lost some stuff from my Notes app. That's what it was.

48:33

Tommy: Was.

48:33

Adam: And so I went in there and was like, hey, this is an Apple— I mean, it's an iCloud or whatever, an iOS app. And the girl, I was like, hey, how can I just talk to someone about getting all the stuff back?

48:43

Symon: Yeah.

48:43

Adam: And she was like, yeah, there's an appointment next Tuesday. And I was like, oh, have you got nothing now? And she was like, no, it's not a barber. She said, do you want Tuesday 10:15 or Wednesday at 7 PM? And I was like, neither. I didn't pick either. I just called them up. She's like, you can call I was like, where's me notes?

49:01

Josh: Give them back.

49:02

Symon: Yeah, sorry, yeah, just trying to get into the Dropbox.

49:05

Josh: Where were they?

49:05

Adam: I don't know, the guy on, uh, the iPhone support guy found them. Yeah, where's that?

49:11

Tommy: I don't know, they're connected to an email address.

49:16

Josh: No, it's because I had updated my iOS and then iOS 13 causing a lot of issues.

49:21

Adam: Yeah, and so I'd lost a lot of the notes, um, which was like content for our podcast. I was like, this is semi-important to get back. And then so I called them and then they just reverted back to what my phone was before the update because it only done halfway.

49:34

Josh: You had all the Subway questions. I was just gonna say, lucky, otherwise we never would have found out what happened.

49:38

Adam: What type of bread? What type of sauce?

49:40

Josh: Now the bread thing's interesting. I'm always an Italian herb and cheese guy.

49:43

Adam: Yeah, same.

49:44

Symon: Yeah, I'm a wheat guy usually, but this was the last, the last sub.

49:48

Josh: Can't believe you went through a whole Subway bit without talking about the smell of Subway. Yeah, they love it or hate it.

49:54

Symon: Makes me want to throw up.

49:54

Tommy: It's on your fingers, like, yeah, after finishing.

49:59

Josh: Tommy's had Subway. You are a constant.

50:03

Tommy: No, I don't like it.

50:04

Adam: How do you feel about Macca's brekkie smell?

50:05

Tommy: I like it. Yeah, no, I like it more than Subway. Subway smell.

50:10

Symon: Yeah, okay.

50:11

Adam: What is the bread?

50:12

Tommy: There's some kind of thing in the bread that makes it smell identical.

50:14

Symon: What are your thoughts on, like, the smell of an orange after you eat it?

50:18

Josh: It's good citrus.

50:20

Symon: Yeah, great. I've got a friend. I've got a mate. Yeah, it's called a shorange.

50:25

Tommy: Shower orange.

50:25

Symon: Only eat an orange in the shower because I don't want to smell the orange afterwards.

50:30

Josh: What about like, did you ever play footy?

50:32

Symon: Yes.

50:32

Josh: Halftime, that was my favorite.

50:34

Symon: Stay away from it.

50:35

Adam: Really?

50:35

Josh: No oranges?

50:35

Adam: You get halftime oranges at lacrosse. Simon plays lacrosse. Oh yeah, it's the most niche sport ever.

50:41

Symon: Lacrosse.

50:42

Josh: Yeah, I've got a mate that plays. Where does he play?

50:44

Adam: Williamstown.

50:45

Josh: He actually played for— yeah, near Williamstown. That's a big town.

50:49

Symon: Altona?

50:50

Josh: No, it's Westside. Footscray? Yeah.

50:53

Symon: What was his name?

50:54

Josh: Jay Coles. Is he not? Jericho plays for the Philippines as well.

50:59

Tommy: He is also in the doghouse.

51:00

Josh: Yeah, he booked 6 tickets which were free for our event at 500 and he didn't come. And when you only got 100 people coming, it was nearly a whole row.

51:10

Tommy: It's a high percent.

51:11

Josh: He's from the Philippines.

51:12

Tommy: What is that? Is that giving back?

51:14

Adam: He doesn't much.

51:15

Josh: Yeah, well, he's—

51:16

Tommy: Is that what they do in the Philippines? Yeah. So tickets. To events they're not going to.

51:19

Symon: It's free, guys. Don't worry.

51:21

Josh: No, but when I— him and I did a documentary, we went over. He's never made a film in his life, but he, he was my fixer and we made a film on fireworks in the Philippines and he organised the car and all that sort of thing. But yeah, it's just like a bit filo style, a bit fucking loose, a bit like, oh, we'll see what happens.

51:38

Adam: Does he live here or did he book Six from the Philippines? And he was like, yeah, I'll fly.

51:41

Tommy: We need to do a full inquiry.

51:44

Symon: Yeah.

51:44

Tommy: Who are his 5 other mates?

51:45

Josh: That's what I was wondering. And he did. He was very specific around will there be food?

51:49

Symon: Which there was specifically for him.

51:53

Adam: And then you think for your thousands you'll do a bit more vetting for tickets?

51:56

Tommy: Oh, they'll be high priced.

51:59

Josh: I think we'll weed out the fuckwits.

52:02

Symon: Yeah, it doesn't quite work.

52:06

Josh: Yeah, yeah, even $5. Yeah, just to sort of— have you guys thought about doing a live event?

52:11

Adam: Uh, no, I had thought and then I was like, it was pretty quick. So like, have I had a thought?

52:15

Josh: Yes.

52:16

Adam: Did I ever done anything for the thought?

52:17

Symon: No. No, I think maybe one day we probably will. What about Gogglebox and themselves?

52:21

Tommy: Like, are they looking to—

52:23

Josh: Gogglebox live event, watching, sitting, sledge people.

52:27

Symon: All right, come on, get in front.

52:28

Tommy: Like, they haven't thought about it?

52:30

Josh: The theatre edition? Yeah, yeah, sitting watching maybe the stage show.

52:34

Symon: No, they haven't though. I think they— because the whole thing is that it's regular people, and normal people don't do live stuff, only big dogs like you guys.

52:42

Josh: Have they ever had a conversation about, guys, you, you'll be moving away from the everyman, you're becoming too big? Yeah, too big.

52:49

Symon: Uh, we— no, No, no, Adam's like—

52:53

Josh: No, I'm just saying that we're there to shut up. He's kicking me under your back for it.

53:00

Symon: Um, no, anytime we will try to be like, hey, I think we should do this, oh, then we'll get a message that'd be like, guys, just relax.

53:09

Josh: Yeah, yeah, stop trying to do benchmarks.

53:10

Adam: Yeah, just get out of the media wall. No one's going to use that photo.

53:14

Tommy: Guys, I see you've set up a media wall behind you at your house. Fucking Get rid of that shit.

53:19

Josh: Is there a little bit of, um, I mean, it's a weird one because in some ways sitting and watching TV like Gogglebox, a little bit low status. However, high status because you have this platform where you get to talk shit about shows at the Logies. Do you get a sense that there's certain people that are buttering you up hoping that if they come on, their show comes on, that you're going to be nice to them?

53:43

Adam: Well, the first time we went when the meeting of the Simons, I had food poisoning and so I was literally throwing up in my mouth as we were there talking to people. We're talking to Mel McLaughlin, the Channel 7 cricket commentator.

53:56

Tommy: Yeah.

53:56

Adam: And I was like, she's perfect. She's the best.

53:59

Symon: She's like, knows everything about sport.

54:01

Adam: Yeah, she's awesome. And then so we're talking to her and I was like, oh yeah. And I just went, mm.

54:05

Josh: Did you just swallow?

54:06

Adam: I tried to swallow and then, you know what, you get the first one down, second one comes back up, doesn't go back down as quickly. And so then I had to bolt out. I was like, I was like, and then I left and left Simon to hold the conversation.

54:16

Josh: You know what caused the food poisoning?

54:18

Adam: Yeah, it was a burrito.

54:19

Josh: Any specific burrito?

54:21

Adam: From Zamburro. Zamburro.

54:25

Josh: Good place though, they do a good sort of, uh, yeah, yeah, I reckon.

54:29

Adam: I've been back since, but that was when I lived in Port Melbourne.

54:32

Tommy: No days wins. That's where we stop in Albury when we drive up to Sydney.

54:37

Adam: You can stop by Corowa if you want, my parents will give you some food.

54:40

Symon: Very good homemade sausage rolls, actually. Really?

54:43

Josh: Yeah.

54:43

Symon: Like supreme.

54:43

Tommy: The problem with these towns, they're all claiming the best sausage roll, the best pie, the best vanilla slice. Yeah. I mean, they've all won it.

54:50

Symon: Who has the best vanilla slice?

54:51

Adam: There's a place in Fairfield which claims it. No, Victoria, they claim.

54:55

Josh: What about the one in Rye?

54:56

Tommy: Totora. So when I was, when I was living in Shetland, we went to Totora. They've won a bunch of awards for their— Totora Hot Bread is the bakery.

55:04

Symon: Yeah.

55:04

Tommy: Killer vanilla slice.

55:06

Adam: That's like Parker's Pies in Rutherglen. They do best pies in Australia.

55:11

Josh: What happened to donuts?

55:13

Symon: When did they—

55:14

Josh: Yeah, well, it seems like they're on the way out potentially.

55:18

Adam: There's a reason Brunswick Street just closed. Donut Time? Yeah, the green shop. Yeah, that's just now boarded up.

55:24

Tommy: Yeah, I think they went under. All of their stores went under.

55:28

Symon: Yeah, all of Donut Time.

55:30

Tommy: Yeah, they went too hard, made too many.

55:32

Symon: Yeah, they tried to make the fad. Bad of donuts, and everyone went, yeah, you want—

55:37

Josh: you wonder about like the costing and all that sort of thing. What do you guys do? Do you do Uber Eats much?

55:41

Symon: Uh, yeah, yeah, I'm a big Uber Eats guy. Yeah, foolishly though.

55:45

Josh: Do you think you're, uh, yeah, like daily?

55:47

Symon: Uh, no, not daily. I'm not Fev. Have you heard that?

55:50

Tommy: Yeah, I'm not fucking crazy.

55:52

Adam: So have you heard the Fev story?

55:53

Symon: Yeah, so Fev's like number one Uber Eats customer in Australia. He spent $35,000 on Uber Eats.

56:00

Adam: It was like top 2%, I think. They were like Yeah, you get Uber Eats a lot. And so he contacted Uber or someone from— it was like, yeah, we'll look up how high you are. He's like, I've got to spend more money than everyone. And he's in the top 2%.

56:11

Tommy: So there's— I mean, if you're on $600,000, $700,000 and you have 4 kids that you can't be fucking cooking for because it's a pain.

56:19

Symon: Yeah.

56:19

Tommy: And they're all, I want this, that. It's like, just wait.

56:22

Josh: That's only $100 a day if it's a year. It was at $35,000 for the year.

56:27

Adam: No, I think it was in like 6 months.

56:28

Josh: 6 months or less.

56:29

Adam: I don't know, it was in a very short period of time. You spent a lot of money.

56:34

Tommy: What do you reckon you spend on food, including your Uber Eats, a week?

56:38

Josh: You guys, well, we got— I think we need to work out, are you on the spectrum of super tight, won't pay for anyone's drinks when you go out, to, uh, very generous, paying for everyone? Where do you guys sit?

56:51

Symon: Uh, I'm, I'm a big-time tight-ass, but just for things like—

56:56

Tommy: so you really appreciate those beers that I gave you?

56:59

Symon: Loving them, loving them.

56:59

Tommy: Sick.

56:59

Symon: No, but then Like, I will buy lunch every day, but like, I just don't like buying.

57:05

Tommy: So you're selfish, it's for yourself.

57:07

Symon: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I'm all in.

57:11

Josh: Okay, so, and what do you give yourself a limit? Do you say it has to be under $10 for lunch?

57:15

Symon: Yeah, so I think from the supermarket it will cost me, like, if I want to buy lunch or dinner or whatever, a meal, like a steak will be $8, broccoli will be $2, like I'll get myself up to like $15. So then when I go out—

57:29

Adam: That's a pretty expensive meal from the supermarket.

57:30

Symon: And then you have labour costs. Food. Yeah, like, how much is your time worth?

57:34

Josh: Yeah.

57:34

Symon: So then I kind of justify it that way, that if I'm gonna eat, I'll try to keep it around 15, and then I won't—

57:41

Josh: because steaks can get— like, if you want a good quality— yeah, yeah, you go to Canning's and spend fucking $25.

57:46

Tommy: Number off the top of your head, what do you reckon you spend on food? Okay, you budget it.

57:51

Adam: My original question, $150 a week. I reckon that's because standard answer— we— when I go, so I cook cook probably 80% of the time in our house with my girlfriend. And then I'll cook dinner that'll cost $25 to make, but that'll make 5 serves. So then that's $5 a meal, which— and then I— so I've recently started skipping breakfast, which I know is really bad, but I do it for time, time constraints. Well, not constraints, but I do it for time. So I wake up, my alarm goes off, I have 12 minutes between eyes open and out the door.

58:26

Tommy: Solid.

58:26

Josh: What time do you get up?

58:27

Adam: So I left, well, this morning I got up at 6:08 and then I was out the door at 6:20. So it's up—

58:35

Tommy: what time's your first client?

58:37

Adam: Uh, first it was 7. Okay, so it was a just 35-minute drive to work.

58:41

Tommy: Fuck, you're cutting it.

58:42

Symon: Wow, that is streamlined.

58:44

Josh: What are you listening to in the car?

58:45

Adam: There's no fat on it. I do podcasts mostly, so I've been doing The Daily Talk Show, obviously. Thanks for Wilosophy, Off Menu, and then a few different ones from there.

58:55

Symon: But what are the different ones?

58:57

Adam: The Adam and Simon Show.

58:58

Symon: Yeah, that's a good one. Well done.

59:00

Tommy: A few different— mix it up.

59:02

Adam: But the timing is so 12 minutes from wake up. So it goes eyes open, alarm goes off, get up, 2 alarms off because there's always a backup alarm, then shower for 6 minutes, and then get all my stuff together.

59:14

Symon: Do you alarm your shower?

59:16

Josh: No.

59:16

Symon: You just feel it.

59:17

Adam: Yeah, because the reason I know that the time for the shower is because if I wash my hair or whatever and then I do 2 minutes on the— I do toothbrush in the shower.

59:25

Symon: Yeah.

59:25

Adam: And then I'm— I know that's 2 minutes on the toothbrush and then I'm out.

59:29

Tommy: There's no room for error.

59:31

Josh: Yeah, you would struggle with the Simpsons routine I've got going. Yeah.

59:33

Tommy: If you are—

59:34

Josh: 2 episodes. I was literally like, Tommy's not gonna be happy, but I can't do anything before 9.

59:40

Adam: Anything before 9?

59:41

Tommy: It's ridiculous. Like, find a healthy habit, bro.

59:44

Josh: I think it's great. I mean, the thing is, I'm going to be able to just—

59:47

Tommy: He's been avoiding this fucking gym for a month.

59:49

Josh: Yeah, I could, um, I had a lot of Reese's Peanut Butter Cups. Um, no, but I feel like I'm gonna get very good at being able to deconstruct plots.

59:59

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's a weird— it's a weird flex. Does it really—

60:04

Symon: wait, does it take you back to like year 11, 12, where you're like, like, middle of your studies or whatever? Just ruined Well, no, I was actually—

60:13

Josh: yeah, yeah, no, I was actually thinking, I mean, it's such a dumb thought, but like, I reckon once a week I'm like, fuck, if I was doing Year 12 now, I'd be great. Like, I reckon, because Mr. 97's called 97 because he got a 97 ATAR. Yeah, which is—

60:27

Adam: you get 95.1.

60:28

Josh: Ah, loser.

60:30

Symon: 81 or something.

60:31

Josh: 81. Yeah, well, so Tommy never finished school.

60:35

Adam: No, no, that's not zero, it's just like, it's, uh, like a Yeah, I think they just say N/A, not apparent.

60:43

Josh: Yeah, which, um, yeah, not assessed, not assessed. Yeah, I think it could have been not apparent as well.

60:48

Tommy: No, they didn't even get to the not assessed because I didn't even make it to year 12, so they literally— I was out the books.

60:54

Josh: I was erased.

60:56

Tommy: No, year 11.

60:57

Adam: It's always that classic storey where if you got below 25, you had to click, are you sure you really want to know your interscore?

61:02

Josh: Oh really?

61:03

Adam: Yeah, because there was a rumour there was a couple of kids at our school who got 12 Yeah, that was my mate.

61:08

Symon: So there was me and one other friend who we got about the same, and then we had like 6 others in our group, and if you added their scores up, it would make the same score as my other mate who got like 85.

61:20

Josh: Did you do VCE?

61:21

Tommy: I started, I mean, I didn't even really give that a crack, which was the— that's, you know, just starting at that point. I need to go and catch up with my automotive teacher. He was an old Vietnam vet. He just got in my face and I was just getting in his.

61:36

Adam: Is that automotive for VCal or automotive for VCE?

61:38

Tommy: No, VCal.

61:39

Symon: Right.

61:40

Tommy: Okay.

61:40

Josh: What's the difference?

61:41

Adam: That's what I was going to say. We didn't have automotive at VCE.

61:43

Josh: Definitely not.

61:44

Symon: No, it's a VCal.

61:45

Josh: But what do you know about cars now?

61:48

Tommy: No, it wasn't even about cars. It was like tinkering with fucking how do you take this piston out? Not even that. Like, it was so loose. So loose.

61:56

Josh: That sounds like car stuff. Hey, how's your car? Is your completely written off?

61:59

Symon: It's gone, skis. Yeah. Yeah.

62:01

Josh: Yeah. The Astra. I had an Astra. Yeah, it was very zippy.

62:03

Symon: Yeah, so we told a storey on the podcast that my Astra parked out the front of my girlfriend's house. She lived on a hill with her, like, her family home. And then we went in for family dinner and everything. And then at like 9 o'clock at night, her brother-in-law came inside. He's like, 'Simon, why have you parked your car so weird?' Like, what do you mean? And walked outside, and my car had rolled backwards down the hill and crossed both roads and mounted the kerb on the other side. So there was just like What's it? No, I didn't hit anything. I hit a tree. It like reversed into a tree. And then so it was just like 3 wheels on like the gutter and 1 wheel off, just like spinning.

62:39

Adam: Bearing in mind this was like 9 months ago.

62:41

Tommy: Yeah, I love that he gave you the benefit of the doubt. Mate, you parked weird.

62:44

Symon: That was a really weird way to park.

62:46

Tommy: In the States, there's like rules in a lot of these places. San Francisco, you have to turn your wheels. So it's like the sign says, yeah, wheels like, you know.

62:53

Symon: I didn't know that that was a thing until after this, and then I would turn my wheel all the time. So I'm also chock it up.

62:58

Adam: Carry a brick in the back of his car to put in front of the wheel so it wouldn't wheel down.

63:02

Tommy: Manual or not? Auto. Because a lot of people with manuals get into that.

63:06

Josh: In the first, leave it in first.

63:08

Symon: No, it's just an auto. She's really struggling.

63:11

Tommy: Um, so your 10th season is in, boys. It seems like you're just kind of, you're riding it. Yeah, another 10 seasons.

63:18

Josh: What's the—

63:19

Adam: yeah, it's an easy job. It's a very, very easy job.

63:22

Symon: It's like, hey, do you want to just watch TV with your mate? Twice a week for 3 months. Okay, sure. What are we watching? Yeah, you don't even have to choose.

63:29

Adam: It's actually really good on it, like, on a basic level, because when you become an adult, you don't see your friends that much. And when you have real jobs, you don't get to see your friends that much, whereas we are forced to hang out for 6 months a year. And so, like, the girlfriends and family and stuff, they're like, sorry, I've got to go to work, which is going to work with to hang out.

63:45

Josh: Can you eat whatever you want during the show?

63:48

Symon: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

63:49

Adam: What do you want? Drink what you want.

63:50

Symon: Adam won't eat though, makes him sluggish.

63:52

Adam: Yeah, it makes me sleepy.

63:53

Symon: It feels a bit flat. Yeah.

63:53

Tommy: Yeah, alcohol.

63:55

Adam: Yeah, you can have it, but makes you sleepy.

63:56

Symon: Yeah, so we, the first season, we would drink wines and stuff, and then the last half just be like, I want to sleep.

64:02

Adam: Yeah, sometimes you're filming on a Sunday night if you're watching a Sunday night show, and if you have like 4 beers, I don't want to be hungover for work.

64:09

Josh: Have you, um, have you thought about doing the entertainment stuff full-time? Because you, I know you guys are doing The Sunday Experiment on the Hit Network. Yeah, they've done what, 2 or 4? 3 out of 6. Yeah, we've still got a job Yep. And so are you thinking about when would you potentially give up the physio thing?

64:29

Adam: Yeah, probably when the right thing comes around, I guess. I mean, I'd drop it in a heartbeat if someone was like, here's $2 million to host something.

64:36

Symon: I'd be like, yeah, sure, no worries. But it's probably when more like the entertainment stuff starts filling more time than the physio stuff. Yeah. Because you've got to pay bills. Still got to buy a car. So yeah.

64:49

Josh: What are you going to get?

64:50

Symon: Uh, I don't know, I don't really want to buy a car.

64:53

Josh: So yeah, the i30 is a very good car. Yeah, I've got an i30, love it.

64:59

Tommy: You love it?

65:00

Symon: Yeah, yeah. New?

65:01

Adam: Because are you tossing up between new and secondhand?

65:03

Josh: $15,000.

65:04

Symon: Yeah, that's right in his budget, right in my wheelhouse.

65:07

Adam: Perfect. Did you go private or did you go from a—

65:09

Josh: I got it from Dandenong fucking Boren Holden.

65:13

Symon: Perfect.

65:13

Tommy: You can't finance a private car, it's harder.

65:16

Josh: What do you—

65:16

Tommy: oh, so if you can get financed for a dealership, so it's much easier to get something. Yeah, dealership, then you can get like a warranty or something.

65:24

Josh: Yeah, but they actually fucked me, uh, Boren Holden, uh, Dandenong. Uh, but it all got cleaned up. No, I'm actually— even though we've got a podcast, we're very uncommercial in regards to— we talk about so much shit that we're actually losing potential sponsors.

65:41

Symon: Yeah, as we talk about everything else.

65:44

Josh: Specifically the domain name. I owned pacifichealthclub.com.

65:49

Symon: Yes.

65:50

Adam: Did you just pick that randomly? You're like, someone's going to want this in the future.

65:52

Josh: No, it's because I was a member at their gym and they, on sign up, they said, because you're part of an apartment block, you won't— when your lease runs out, you can quit and you won't have to pay a fee.

66:05

Tommy: Yeah.

66:05

Josh: And then they charged me $200. And I said, if you, if you charge me $200, they had That's southpacifichc.com. And I initially said, I'm going to spend $200 on Facebook ads telling everyone why you're fuckheads, right? And they said, whatever. So I did that. It's like, okay, it's not working. And then so I bought the domain name and I put a website up. And anyway, they said, okay, you take the website down, we give you $200 back.

66:36

Symon: And you're like, I've already spent $400.

66:39

Josh: So I definitely lost, but I also won. Yeah. He's a nasty little fucker.

66:42

Adam: I was going to say, but did you Did you win?

66:45

Josh: No, I definitely won because like, yeah, you didn't win.

66:49

Adam: You won the moral. You won the moral.

66:50

Josh: And so the thing that happened with Boren Holden, this is something to keep in mind. It was, I guess it was an honest mistake. But, you know, you've got the year in which the car comes into the country.

67:04

Symon: Versus when it was made.

67:06

Josh: When it was made.

67:07

Adam: I did not know that.

67:07

Symon: Yeah.

67:08

Josh: And so the thing is that they could promote a 2015 car that was actually 2014.

67:15

Adam: Yeah, right. So is the key to look for like 2014 model, like the world?

67:19

Josh: No, no. And so this was the, this was the clusterfuck. So yeah, you want to look at like the engine thing, like it's inside the door.

67:25

Adam: Just ask the guy who had Automotive.

67:27

Josh: Exactly. Yeah, the piston's got nothing to do with cars. Nothing to do with cars.

67:30

Tommy: You didn't let me fucking finish my story.

67:32

Josh: What was the end of it?

67:33

Tommy: Oh, we were working on lawn mowers. You had to like rebuild lawn mowers, so it had nothing to do with cars.

67:39

Josh: A drive-on Like a drive?

67:40

Tommy: No.

67:41

Josh: Okay, because if you could drive a Vector 180 or something, is it Victor? Victor.

67:46

Tommy: Victor.

67:47

Adam: You did the automotive?

67:51

Josh: Uh, no, but I, um, yeah, so what happened was they took the details of a 2015 or whatever model, which said rear camera, all that sort of thing on the listing, but then it was a 2014 model. And so anyway, he bought the domain name.

68:11

Adam: Yeah, yeah.

68:11

Symon: So give him $200.

68:14

Tommy: He got 80K for them.

68:16

Symon: No, sorry.

68:17

Josh: Drives an Audi now. I've got an SS.

68:21

Symon: I just need—

68:22

Adam: Top Sport.

68:23

Josh: Yeah, Senator. The fucking—

68:25

Symon: yeah, Senator.

68:28

Tommy: Full leather, full leather, Continental rims.

68:30

Josh: So I do. Uber Black.

68:32

Tommy: Boys, thank you so much for coming in. This was fun.

68:34

Symon: Our pleasure. That was really fun.

68:36

Adam: Thanks for having us.

68:36

Josh: Adam and Simon, uh, if you just type in that on Apple Podcasts, Simon with a Y, yes, and you'll find it there every Tuesday, also known as Wayne.

68:43

Symon: Correct. Tuesday, Wayne. Every Wayne. Yes. So thanks for having us, guys.

68:47

Josh: When's the next season of Gogglebox?

68:49

Adam: Um, start of next year.

68:50

Symon: Yeah, yeah, January-ish.

68:52

Adam: Yeah, something like January, February, when the TV's on in the next year.

68:55

Josh: Do you feel the pressure to watch TV before No, no, no. I've been really impressed. I just got the Apple TV, the new one. I'm impressed with all the catch-up shit. Yeah, like being able to watch like Have You Been Paying Attention? Great show, by the way. Oh, very funny.

69:08

Symon: Yeah, very funny.

69:09

Josh: Uh, just press play and it plays.

69:11

Tommy: It's good stuff. That's a good future.

69:13

Symon: Yeah, and it plays. Yeah, it's amazing.

69:16

Josh: No, but very quickly, when I was watching last weekend, um, Amy Shanandy's Perfect Holiday, which is fucking great, um, I wanted— I was doing a test with whether the stream or the TV was going to be quicker in regards to, um, latency.

69:32

Tommy: It makes him seem like he has heaps of time. Seriously.

69:37

Josh: Uh, but no, the stream is slow.

69:39

Adam: 9 AM though.

69:39

Josh: Yeah, exactly. But anyway, uh, tomorrow I'll do a bit of a Simpsons, uh, wrap-up of episode, um, 20.

69:47

Symon: Yeah.

69:48

Adam: Um, have we seen 29?

69:49

Josh: Episode 1.

69:50

Symon: Yeah.

69:51

Adam: No, shouldn't you start from the end? Season 29, episode 22 or something.

69:54

Josh: Oh, you gotta be fucking kidding me. No, no, I did that. 29, episode 21, a little teaser, uh, Bart invited Lisa to take an intelligence test on his computer. Anyway, it's a daily talk show. Hi@thedailytalkshow.com is the email address. If you've enjoyed the show, please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts. Otherwise, see you tomorrow, guys.

70:11

Tommy: See you guys.

70:12

Symon: See you later.

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