#014 – Radical honesty (ADULT THEMES)/

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Yep. You've you've clicked on the daily talk show. Thanks for joining us. Yeah, and it's Friday and where we're in a different location different were at my joints Episode 14 in St Kilda St Kilda as you call it and some places actually spell it si ay NT yeah kill that but a lot of places just st and so when I see it spelt spelt out st St Kilda I'd say St Kilda for some ways but it's St Kilda my My Maps was saying streets killed up

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this is I'm sure I give away my straight name yeah he's gonna Spencer straight yeah if you come after me I'll come after you

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anyway it's spelled s p n s A

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Spencer straight he's what again SP en s a little annoying there's a street in the city Spencer straight one of the main streets here in Melbourne. Really you say yours is Spencer and you say that one it says they're both the same mistake Spencer Spencer because I'm probably making the distinction that it's not Spencer straight because I am each friend was getting a cab here and when she fucking ENDA Spencer issue from Sydney. She's from England. Okay either the cab lines the cab driver it wasn't always like into straight. Yeah straight St Kilda and then all of a sudden they're in Spring Street and see that's an Indian cab drivers should know if you say Spencer St Kilda it's not the one the CBD so it's confusing but it's like the English language. There's so many things about it that is this fucking dumb. Yeah, I mean very intelligent and meaning the meaning behind it all and no, we don't know. And so we're fucking down. And the reason I brought up the location is because you might hear some cars and shit because you're single glazing here. You're about to move downstairs. Yeah, it's a height moving and this is the easiest move by far but still comes the stressors I've lived in maybe eight different houses it's a lot what's the biggest stress do we use? Yeah, tracking sheet downstairs. I take my hat off to remove lists doing that. She's like day in day out. Oh not an ideal job. I think you need like a mindset for jobs like that. Like in it's

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something like I need some fucking money. That's a good incentive the would you ever do CBD living? Like live in Melbourne or

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not in not in Melbourne? I don't want to be great places maybe I've got I've got I know Melbourne to well that I don't want to leave what is it about Melbourne? The city that you don't like

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I wouldn't want to just be there on the time that I don't have to be like if I was in Sydney CBD like Sydney CBD and when talking about like the business district of Sydney sure it can be boring but just on the edge of that is the harbor that is the water to the one of the most beautiful views in Australia. Yeah as far as the CD goes where does that come from Melbourne like where do you think it actually gets to that point like if you are you if you're living in Melbourne CBD on the Yarra it's a different thing john living Collins because you're almost living Richmond at that point yeah or staff back or like South America living in dockless well the Docklands is an interesting one in Melbourne cuz I I opened it up and no one time yeah windy it became like a wind tunnel and realize that will was a disaster. Is it even running now or not? I don't know if you've ever been on it. Not me. Did you do that? If you ever done if you've been to London,

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went to London. I wrote around London we got to the base of the London Eye and said in fact that know why it's like I'd rather spend the day because we would have to wait three hours It was like a busy time I was looking at London on a map and realize what the name of the London I actually is. Gina know

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the Coca Cola London I it's okay. So it's just it's a branding opportunity. And like Etihad Stadium. Yeah. Or Really? I feel like Coca Cola I wonder if there's other stadiums is that how long winded that I don't know I literally just looked at like when you go on Google Maps and it said Coco goal definitely not I haven't seen them sell it like that what was it just on their website I wasn't sure all I saw was on the map I wonder if it is on the website I wonder if they have like gone old Coca Cola who take it will take your money over going the opposite way will take your money will just won't be seen to be talking about bad. I'm just saying is Eddie hadn't stuff today have the logo of the company or is it just name right. It's it's it becomes the name at head study. I'm going to own a a big clock to their logo though. I think it's in their font. Okay, so say font and stuff. Yeah, yeah. And the interesting thing that I wanted to bring up was now fucking podcast is going really well downloads wise and we've even we both hate it but

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it's what we haven't promoted it anyway. But people are listening and we've even got people rating on iTunes and we hadn't mentioned iTunes at all. But if you do actually think that this is over at all interesting back in chakras are writing definitely checks right but it's it's interesting from being on radio where your your your fault forcing yourself into people's is like a where I was there was no to other radio stations and they weren't commercial so there was not much funding behind them now already they're like little community station or like ABC or sports or something. So then most of the music that the kids like or that most people like in these areas is played on the station that I was on therefore they wake up they probably listening to me and most of them and when I was in radio Spotify and cars and stuff it wasn't as big as it is right doing not even as big as what it's going to be yeah and so I feel so fucking happy when I see views because I'm like someone's actually decide on that. Yeah, and I feel like it's even worth a lot more prestigious than video now in terms of what we do as far as a viewer like it can be we can we can move them in a bunch of different way Yeah. Claudio you've got no escaping just two voices or a voice the last couple of episodes were a bit too long I think. Yeah, we're definitely cutting it I'm bad yeah, I want to work too hard. Yeah, we want to chill out a bit you had at the at the end of the show we'll play some old grabs from when you were a like a disc jockey or whatever you want to call it was a radio host a radio host. But I have apprehension to do it because it's it was a may have years ago like be imagine bringing up you talking three years ago about things that you felt a believer like, I don't know how much of it. I mean, it was nothing. I wasn't saying the world was flash or anything

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I was.

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That's a good ride. It actually really went well. And shepherd and

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so I'm a bit apprehensive to share some stuff. But I wish we can pick a couple. I've got like, I saved so much of this audio because I was having one day maybe I could do something with it. I'd like to listen back to it when I'm 60 realize that fucking young punk I was 2324 thinking that we're Earth was flat

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that the that's almost like I wonder about all of the like, old recordings and tapes and things like that. It feels like it can sort of hold you back in some regards. Like, I feel like I want to get to a point where I just digitize all of this shit and just chuck it out because it adds clutter like types legit. Yeah, it just like unnecessary and this digital clutter as well. Right? It's just like,

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I've got so many fucking hard drive. You've got lots of hard drives to Yeah, have you ever had a hard drive fail

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I had one that had a whole bunch of footage that I needed and it was shooting itself when I was trying to transfer and I managed to get it off like it was on the verge of dying Yeah, right. You had that one? What happened? Yeah, I had one fuck up. But luckily I had stuff backed up on enough sort of hard drive it wasn't like a clean rain stating sort of the data but I managed to do it start with Lucky well i think it's one of the things that pisses me off when people want free stuff like free work free video stuff as soon as I start rolling that camera recording data that needs to be then stored somewhere and who's paying for the storage but I didn't get any better on that but also like that's thinking it was such a micro level in the sense of like and it's your fucking time like I think that you're still at the understanding your worth within that stuff but

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yeah free free work making go further than that though so you record it it's probably just because I faced all these situations you have 20 gigabytes of footage and it's not exactly that easy to just shoot over 20 gigabytes but there's a there's a bit of sound like cameras are getting so good and storage is in keeping up you had a low cost to what the cameras essentially costing yeah So lemme cameras at low costs, but creating these huge files, I think that what's happened is data is still getting cheaper. But what's happening is not like a few years ago, the the cameras that were taking up heaps of storage were very expensive. So the barrier to entry was high so you wouldn't be getting that so if you spent all that money on a camera you would assume that you can spend that money on storage but now we're getting cameras that are white cheaper that it giving us some of those these professional options which includes high bit rates, which is increasing the story file size if you but I mean the best thing was the me getting that right yeah, I forget how an $8,000 yeah drive it's like it was like how many hotter I was six hard drives in there or something. It's like 48 terabytes Yeah, I just like to talk about the cat because if you don't like hard drives or tech stuff it seems like $1,000 in it's a little black box yeah I wouldn't picked it up in my car and it was worth more yeah I mean once a good filmmaker they gear is worth more than the cabin I mean talking about the car you just sold you sold your car that was an interesting experience I hadn't done this in this way so I've had I bought this Honda Civic my first my second car was a BMW that I got final five year geez such a bargain and had it you know media and it wasn't a finance finance and your Peter European stripping business that was or I wasn't too bad I love the seeds it was red leather it was it was a really look at a TV and not to be too small it but did you have sex in never never and you being on a second tower? I've never had sex in the car I'll say that you've never had sex and sex in the car? Yeah Then I've never actually

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I've had a Wang can

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yeah you haven't had never had any doubt like have you have you ever wanted a workplace

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yes

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like how quiet was it to like it must have been very quiet when it's also like this The other thing too is that but the thing is like I mean it's something that you do when you're young you don't like I think you get past the stage where it's like but I remember like being 19 or something and that even been doing roadside my bed late night I'm not saying it's the thing to do it's very weed and I couldn't imagine I mean the only reason that if I'd ever done it I would do it

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was because I was like an office on my arm it was like a single toilet where you just look desperate times

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this brings back memories of being on radio being vulnerable talking about she itself fracking confronting did you do like if there was affecting news article have told me jacket? Wang don't work it. I don't care. But there's still levels of like secrets. They eat cake DSL for things that you just you know, you don't want to verbalize them a lot. Yeah. But. But if you do you feel vulnerable doing. So that's the whole that's my whole whole thing. And I think maybe we're talking about like a radical honesty or whatever. Right. And people can tell tell, talk about that concept where people like people can tell you, you told me about it. You may decide, well, I can tell you to say it. And then I'll say so like the radically honest thing that I told you. Okay. So there is people who get off over being honest. And it becomes a finish. And these groups where they get together and they go around the group. And they are basically outdoing each other by saying something that they've done. Yeah. And in this example, this guy gave this dude was saying he was there and he got around to this dude who do said, I've muted somebody. Yeah, that's fact, isn't it? And it was like, whether he did it or not be might have. And so there is this world that so far from me

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to you. When I

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told you that

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was saying, like, it reminds me like I've just gotten comfortable with I think it's like our pot like removing ourselves from our past. And I told you my squeegee story.

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He didn't think I was gonna fucking you can bring that up. Yeah, I will say this. Let's, let's, let's let's be clear that this is the smarty show that we can have. And I realized that this isn't 50 kids in cars. Like, turn it off. We're not we don't work for radio. We don't have your podcast. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you've heard us say everything. But I'll be very quick. There was a time in my probably when I was 13 or 14 years old, where I was expecting mentoring and then included using the squeegee in the shower and sticking the handle in my office.

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And because I remember

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I never

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remember the six ed teacher telling us that that's where like, the pleasure was, in fact, it was like a massive sex. But now like, I like ours isn't like I don't like Josh has been with these partner for the last 10 years. He's not sad. Yeah,

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exactly. But no, there's anything wrong with that. Yeah, you were young? I mean, I don't want to go any further. But that that would that filter? Few telling me Yeah, I mean, I think that now that it's out in the open, it's fine. But I just think about the types. I wonder how say like, clients if clients are listening to this, like, that's okay. Right. I honestly think honesty if you can't argue with it, if you're to criticize you about your honesty, and what a client would be upset about you when King at work. Why? Well, maybe cuz they're like,

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Where's Trump? We've got this man always tell me, I'm a business owner. And so when I say work, I don't mean I not at the radio station. Not when I'm working for big corporate. Ah, I see. I was talking about when I was at the fiber guide

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you just saw get one kid. Hi. I'm a home studio. I had a studio and I lived out the back side. low level

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I haven't liked. It was only once I think to make you feel better. I did it school as well. Really? Yeah, I never did that. But I was I was a kid you ain't dead? Well, I was like, 910. That was like over 10 years ago. No, it's good. reliable. Josh? I think. So. There's people out there thinking maybe. Yeah, maybe you maybe you've just done it anyway.

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Definitely not. You're not worried. Because I think there'll be a lot of people and if you think you're George's, we okay. But whatever. I mean, like it. Yeah, there's a scale of I think that I'm only comfortable talking about it, because it happened. You know, I don't on using your and it gives you a semi chat.

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I don't think like I think we can laugh at that. And in eight or nine years time. We can have a podcast about the shit that I did at your place right now. And so

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we did. All right. Maybe I wish I was signing up my car. You know, I had I had the BMW and I didn't have sex, nor any of my podcast. And then I've got my civic. I bought this Honda Civic, because I realized that being in debt was dumb. And I got out of it. How much did you lose on the car?

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Probably like, so here's the thing. I didn't really lose, because I got hardly any money back. And then that just paid off the rest of the line. So it was like, I just wasted 800 bucks a month or something. Okay, on the repayment. So it was a silly idea. I didn't get ahead dollars a month, you're paying

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seven 744, something like that. The cost of nearly the customer offer. So it doesn't say no, to what is rising. So I got rid of it. Yeah. Anyway, how did you have before I had it for a year or something, but it drastically reducing cost, I can remember back in value in value, sorry. And so I bought this other car. And it served me so well for five grand and it just was a run about wait forever. And I've had it long enough that it got to a point where it's like re registering the are paying for red Joe or sell it trying to sell this and meaning that I have to get a roadworthy would be too much because the cars not even worth the amount that you need to spend to get the roadworthy so I was like looked into getting rid of it and just having some on come pick it up called the scrappers that are like Honda Civic or Honda scrappers so you can get really right now that's interesting off of me 200 bucks to take it off my hands. I had to deliver it to them and I called some other company cash for scrap cars. Melbourne that's the business name. Yeah. And then he's like, Yes, I will send someone out Friday. How do they need backs? Cash need proof of ownership? Well, I sent to the dude Have you ever taken a car that wasn't the right car? And he's like, no, he laughed, but all I had to show him was my driver's license which doesn't show done in science granted or something you scan it he wrote the details down but if I forge that

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funny prank isn't it it's it is a system you could I mean it's 150 bucks you have to give them the case and not even just for the money just expected to be running it so here's the thing right I was like oh but there needs to be able to get in to be able to put it on the don't say it they can track them they can push it on okay we don't have the keys though. I had the battery so we knew it was mine right but I could have gone Oh I don't have the battery I don't have the keys flat battery it's open you know you could think if you could you could do it yeah it'd be much effort though. So anyway, I got rid of it and he took it and hundred and 50 hundred and 50 hundred 50 bucks yeah he tried to rip you off to me he did he said to me he said are hundred but he'd already written 150 damn on to the so he was trying to pocket the we probably shouldn't said the business

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he tried to rip you know he's just been Jay he laughed and I said now

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okay. Honesty radical radical honesty. Do you think it's good? Like do you think

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what do you think about radical honesty like that regardless it seems to be diminishing returns when do you be honest versus when you when Shouldn't you be honest well I think honesty can get in the way and what I mean by that is like if workplaces and gonna hire you because they knew if there's a crazy out here as Yeah, it's a possibility in that right. So people are fearful of being honest. Yeah. Or telling somebody about

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I was just thinking there is a thought around

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say clean safe being racist. I cleaned the squeegee. Yeah, good, safe, being racist becomes a legal which is pushing for and I think there I think it is a rice Oh, Yang Rice's. So if I was to go out I don't know if the squeegee thing is compatible. But no, but here's the thing. Honestly, I was just thinking honesty. So there's some dumb ideas people and be racist because society will weed them out. Because there's no room for racism, Bashar we will know what those people are thinking because the people who are racist the never talk about it. Yeah, super dangerous. Yeah, we don't know. Because they're not being honest. So if you allow honesty across the board, society will wait a lot of this grubs in society. Oh, ass. Yeah. So I think that's an extreme case of honesty. Yeah, but I like being honest. My thing for this year is honest content. Because the amount of times when I was on radio, that we got fake callers. And yes, on radio, there's people who are friends of the radio hosts telling a story and pretending like they're not

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an area. Warren Well, when you're a market from fucking shepherd, and you also that you only have a certain amount of coal is right. Yeah. And so my point is, it's dishonest. Yeah. And it's a you could argue that it's, it doesn't really matter. It's for the entertainment value. But I honestly think that being honest rewards you whereas if you are being dishonest, having someone on in this small thing, like a fake call it still offering up a vibe. I think that it also sets a tone I had someone say to me, I will all the colors on radio fake.

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And I'm like, excuse me, like, Oh, yeah, they're all just like the throw people that work at the radio station. I'm like, do you really think they could fucking film Do you think that there's enough people in sale to to be able to do that? I mean, that's, I guess that's where the dishonesty becomes a problem, because you're a dishonest one. And people apply it to your whole fucking show. Exactly. And there's a flow on effect of that vibe that being dishonest brings. Yeah, and that's, that's, I guess that's a really good example. Yeah. of what's like, okay, you being dishonest about this small on this small scale? So I guess how can I trust you on a much bigger scale? Because the radio thing what's the what's the solution? Right? You can work out how to share something with entertainment, or be fine in a different way than just getting on a dude who makes up a fake story. Yeah, there is many options and it's just not explored. And so and I'm guilty dude, of bringing on people who aren't, who would you get would get other people within the radio station, like within the radio industry. So like, say, we're up at 6am over up at 5am. There's a bunch of other 20 other radio shows and regional markets around Australia. We're at the same time there are friends, right? And so we're just calling through, Hey, can you quickly just do this? Can you quickly just be Bob say this interesting? did you how did you have like a network of those? Like, how did you connect, but so you'd be emailing or email or it's the same same ending of an email address. So you kind of within the library, look through a library, but then you become like, become buddy buddy with different exactly, but how do you like I'm curious as to on a regional station. Like are you connected with Are you having weekly conversations with people close by?

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We have like a content director. Yeah, that's a within our office is talking to us about the content. Yeah, but I wanted like the, the Breakfast Show, in fact, in four hours away, you speaking to them on the reg? No, no, no, sometimes they get together down in Melbourne, or wherever conference, but I think you it's like anything, you find mates. It's like you talking because you've ads or you bring someone back onto the show. But then, you know, you do things like find locals that you can just call. So we had a list of still got them here on my hard drive. Like, I've got a list of people and their numbers and what they do and where they're from. And I became friends of ours. So we'd call them and ask them to be on the show. Yeah, and that's cause like, do you actually have a story, you know, because we want you to tell us a story into the show the show. So there's, you know, like when I say there's cycles and right, you're right, there's only a small percentage of the whole entire show. They're talking maybe I think the in when I worked in radio would happen once every couple of months. It was like, super rare for like a Dr. Show to need that.

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But yeah, I mean, that Friends of the show. It's like, with Hamish and Andy. I'll have stories. And I'll tell Hamish and then it'll say, Hey, can you tell that can we get you on here to tell that story? And so I think that most stories, people here are legitimate. Yeah, it's normally if they're just trying to maybe I think where it comes around is when this client obligations to work, like saying our McDonald's mad moment or whatever, Monday when people call in about their mad moment. And they're like fact, we need to make sure that we have mad moments every Monday for McDonald's. How many could have thought ahead, though. So this is a on the defense of a radio host from a regional market. Yeah, yeah. But you don't realize, you know, we're having to put together this show with no help. And they expect from us to do a phone. I are, you know, putting out a question for every twice an hour. So we do more regular like one to show Do you think you'd have a fake cola? Definitely. really well, and it's, it makes sense. And it's hard. But you do man, we got some fucking awesome calls. We got a call from a woman real calls, real calls. Like, when did you get kicked? When did you get hit in the nuts? And we did. It was awesome. We had all these people call a woman called who was like, Where did you were you pregnant and didn't know. And there was someone who called through that was like 26 or 30 weeks pregnant. And she didn't know and there was multiple calls. I got a guy call through that said he ended up marrying his brother's wife and his brother's wife married his wife. Yeah.

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Well,

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so he's. He's brother. The area is wow. Yeah, it was a sweet the old switcheroo crazy like that came through and so like we got so much gold by putting it out there but just super relatable stuff around that like when you get kicked in. When do you hit the nuts that that went off classic FM phone or did you there's the dump button I'm guessing you'd have that emerged you know because I didn't we didn't go live for ages right? What do you mean the content director of our stations said that didn't really work so he wanted us to pre record everything and he's talking about so what actually said so you weren't actually doing a live show? Well we didn't know worried about like they weren't worried about us talking and what we were going to say but they're worried about other people who call in or interview okay so we went interviews are common as especially pre recorded with especially with interviews if you're interviewing someone they're going to be doing the effort like the big metro stations during those times so you need to pre record them oh I've got the pregnant didn't out cold so we listened to a great let's play that all right hang on so I'm going to put you can this is what year What year is this this is this is the 22nd of the 10th 2014

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okay great and

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is there a setup here hang on so the setup change it yeah I'm not cheating on my gym anymore that's one of the other ones so this is just phone calls for pregnant and didn't know it yep yeah here we go

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milky chance stolen dancin styrofoam, Tommy and Stacy is the code for beautiful top of 30 degree weather on the valleys and an amazing story of a male one woman 22 years of age was traveling overseas backpacking, drinking jumping off cliffs doing all the things you do only to realize that when she went to the doctor she's 32 weeks pregnant

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and like you said over the past few months is actually be more and more time to this happening which kind of worries me about at the same time I get a bit skeptical which I know I can't be because I've never had been pregnant but I know my body and I just don't know how I could possibly not know something this big thing and we've got amber on the line 13 1216 and would you believe these stories

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nah I'm as a mom I don't know I have heard the music It's a 30 to eight I didn't know I was pregnant till about the festival even way and being taught by different friends you know it's normal to miss the period when you strength and a lot of things going on at that time but at the same time I went to the doctor says like you say or not you know your body and and you're quite right and sign it I have had friends I have gone to the hospital Tommy cramps and it's being labor and things but either yeah not sure you believe it personally

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I don't know it's very interesting I mean it's a good point you know your body that's what will thinking stays and on 30 1216 we've also got Lindy Germany from ship Lindy Do you believe the stories yes how day Lindy what has happened to us and when you know I know from Cuba to the doctor she was sick for medical school and she's 32 white men or however she

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40 so she thought it was animals

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children that were lot no I

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was late

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Can you imagine Lindy I mean it Lindy you've got kids all have one goal so imagine going to the hospital and not having that preparation like it already such a life changing event when you are prepared let alone when you know that now it's no good goodbye to periods and nine minute pause it's actually Wescott know librarian

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well

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and when no intervals through a trial by a lot and it was a good far

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on the line gray Good morning Do you believe these stories I had a girlfriend actually use the guys that she was on the current affair and everything must be credible then

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just got really bad time

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going through you know I'm really cool really cool Can I turn up the hospital instead of it Wow and to when she says she must she had like a appendicitis or something she yeah she was agony and she didn't know what was going on and they went often that soil doctor said you're having a baby memory you know this woman right and you know yourself and you've got kids I've got two children so from the outside and as somebody that's been through pregnancy Do you find Do you still find it hard to believe I think I think probably underneath maybe they're a little bit in denial I don't know yeah she was she was a happily married that sort of thing so it wasn't as though it was like a scary thing out of wedlock

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but I think that to the big ago so of course you didn't have those are the phone okay. Yeah,

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because she was fairly big girl so she never got regular thing.

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I think that Yeah,

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thanks, Ray. That means

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you have such a different voice as well. Listening back to that. I was like, Can you do it? How do you boys do you know what makes you know what makes me like that was the pressure so I'm like I'm lying down the carpet right then just thinking back over to get back up to talk. I'll just slowly get up. Yeah, he's like he going from one color to the next. And you have no idea what you doing? Yeah, I was young thinking that I needed to be that way. And maybe it was just like bringing level of energy to it. But now I'm sounds like you're real. Smiley. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'm everything that I criticize. right he presents is about now. That was mate. Yeah. And, and I know that I know what they're going through. Yeah, because these, the squeegee story would have never made it.

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No, no. Okay. Well, like we said, We're gonna do a short show. It's a 35 minutes, so we should wrap it up. But what's on the weekend? What are you up to moving house? Yeah, that'd be fun. And spending my cash that I've made from my old Boris Cafferty hundred left

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a good one.

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I'll let you just spend the weekend regretting that you tell that story. And I will do you think that like, I think you go through I've already spent so down 14 episodes already had a lot of reflection, all the stuff I've been saying. But I feel good about talking. Yeah, it's nice. And I hope that's what you're doing. You said yesterday, we want this show to be like, mate ship. Yeah, so like, you can feel like you just actually chatting

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with friends. And especially I know when I when I started freelancing and things like that you can be pretty lonely and you and I hanging out is a great way of countering that and we're sort of sharing it with other people too. So maybe you've got a bunch of fact that you work that you don't lie Can you just put your headphones on and you can just chill out and enjoy a bit a bit of squeegee chat I'm not letting it go now. It's fact isn't it? Alright anyway make sure um, if you using the podcast app on the iPhone just give us a writing if you like to ski was five stars

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and yeah, we're read the work is we're not Yeah, we're not spreading the word. Just listen for yourself. Yeah, and if you do have any feedback, send us an email to its high at the daily talk. show.com. We've really had no fucking interaction with listeners yet. So we don't know who they are. Yeah, so we want to know who you are. Yeah, but thank you. Have a good one guys. Bye.