Not My Problem

Tommy: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 329. Happy Good Friday and Fat Friday, and happy Good Friday, uh, Fat Friday. Yeah, so Josh is shaking his, um, Humpty Dumpty egg. So today we've chosen a few eggs because we need to, uh, it— I mean, it's one of those things, the—

Josh: am I rattling you right now?

Tommy: I'm a bit rattled. I said what you did.

Josh: So this Humpty Dumpty egg, yeah, I believe it has Smarties in it.

Tommy: Yeah, it does.

Josh: Beans, coated beanies, not Smarties.

Tommy: I mean, what I've loved is going to see, I mean, we have created a culture where there's times of the year that people just don't give an absolute fuck about their diet.

Josh: Sure.

Tommy: And one of those days is today and Christmas Day. And it's always like, I love going to see Craig Harper, who's the motivational fitness guy. And people are like, "Oh, Craig, how do you do it on Christmas Day?" Just don't fucking eat, mate.

Josh: I wonder what he does eat on Christmas.

Tommy: No, he does, but I think it's like, last Christmas I actually did a workout on Christmas Day 'cause I knew how much of a fatty I was gonna be.

Josh: Well, given that it's Fat Friday, it's a Good Friday, I've been, what would you call it? Like water, I've been waterboarding myself.

Tommy: You don't wanna be waterboarded, mate. That's torture.

Josh: Water loading.

Tommy: You've just been drinking water. Don't try and bring it in like you've been prepping yourself based on the food you're about to eat.

Josh: Yeah, well, I'm flushing. I feel like—

Tommy: Yesterday you drank a litre and a half of coffee. That's why you're drinking water.

Josh: But part of it is that I feel like if I have a lot of— if you eat badly, yeah, if you have for every kilogramme of food, you have 4 litres of water. It's—

Tommy: that's unrealistic for the population, human population. But it's like when you go out for a big night of drinking, you can eat during the day and drink lots of water, and it should help with the hangover. Unless you just loosen it and drink 70 shots of agua.

Josh: Well, I had a agua, as in water. Why'd you say the Spanish?

Tommy: Acqua is water. Agua is a South American, I think.

Josh: Italian? No, the agua is Spanish.

Tommy: Okay, then it's—

Josh: yes, I think.

Tommy: No, I don't think it is South American. I think it's made from the leaf, so the— what cocaine's made from, it has use of that leaf in it. Look it up, Mason. Agua, mate. I'm the guy who's out doing shots.

Josh: Agua is, is water in either—

Tommy: okay, but what's the alcohol? Tell me about the alcohol. So agua, yeah, I guess what you're meaning, it's the aqua— it's aqua for us, but I'm talking about agua, A-G-W-A.

Josh: This is Gronkhs do Spanish.

Tommy: No, but I'm not even— I'm talking about the alcohol, I'm not talking about water.

Josh: But is it Spanish alcohol?

Mason: Yeah, it's alcohol made with Bolivian co—

Tommy: uh Coca leaf. Yes, exactly. So Bolivia is in South America.

Josh: Okay, all right.

Mason: So it's Bolivia.

Tommy: Yeah, it's a big drink. It was really popular. So it went like, um, just a bit of nightclub, um, drinking habits information. So no, it's, um, it was, uh, Jägerbombs were huge. Then, uh, Agua came out and that was massive because it was like, oh, you might get a little high because it's got coca leaf that you're using.

Josh: What was it? Was Jäger Illegal?

Tommy: No, Jäger was— I feel like it should have been fucking illegal.

Josh: There was a type that was a, like, that had that illegal ingredient that you couldn't get.

Tommy: No, no, no, Jägermeister has been legal, okay, as long as I can remember. Used to— ferals used to drop fucking shots of that into full cups of Red Bull and skull it. It is pretty foul. Oh, that's what causes hangover.

Josh: I caught up with a friend on Sunday who had a hangover and he was, he went to, he was looking for Barocca.

Tommy: Oh yeah.

Josh: Like the actual drinks and they didn't have it. And I said, I just, we can get Barocca and you can just put it in, but it was too much for him.

Tommy: Well, it was, you know how much those things are? Like $5 and all it is is a tablet and some water and the water drops into the water.

Josh: It's like an orange drink or whatever.

Tommy: But when you got a hangover, you're trying to do whatever you can and yeah, you'll go to any lengths.

Josh: Anyway, can we talk about the Easter eggs?

Tommy: So yeah, so basically what I've done, you've chosen something that you've had from your childhood?

Josh: Yeah, so this is— I go more primo now because Bri works at Hey Tiger, so I've been spoiled. So this could be a horrendous experience.

Tommy: I think it's a childhood experience because you've had this for a long time.

Josh: It's a Cadbury. Humpty Dumpty.

Tommy: Is it Cadbury? Yeah, Cadbury milk chocolate. Humpty Dumpty who fell off the wall. You might know him from that.

Josh: Yeah, that little, uh— Did you have fights with your bros about Easter?

Tommy: Nah, I was the kid stealing shit from my brothers.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: So you and I, youngest, it was all like, it's a great place to be. You got two older brothers. My brother was a bit of a hoarder of lollies, and he used to keep— I don't even know how you hoard because I'll eat them. That's the problem. I would get in there and I'd snap off little bits, or I'd go into his show bag from Melbourne Show and just steal bits of candy.

Josh: Melbourne Show, the amount of fights with Melbourne Show bags. But I actually, uh, I remember one time it had been like a week after Easter. Yeah, my bro had been holding on to this big fuck-off green, like, um, egg, Easter egg. It was just like a green wrapping. I just remember that it was huge. It was like one, you know, you can get— you normally get one big— you're like, would you get one big one, some little ones?

Tommy: I mean, this all died for me probably at the age of 9 or 10. I don't think I continued. Like, it's sure, I'd just eat the shitty food in the house, but I remember those periods of time where I was a young kid getting the big eggs.

Josh: And so my brother was holding onto his egg. I just remember me having a meltdown and going into his room and him chasing me and I just grabbed it. And I knew as soon as I broke it, I just smashed the egg all over the ground and started, far out.

Tommy: You are like, that is exactly like Bodhi. If he's got something in his hand and you say, I want it back, he'll run, but then throw it at the last second. It's crazy.

Josh: So anyway, can I open this?

Tommy: Yeah, so Josh got the full fat egg and I opted for something a bit different. I like those eggs. So I'm not trying to say that I'm the, the good one here, but I got these. Mr. 97, you're going to like these. These are vegan eggs. They're premium dark chocolate. There is no sugar added to them, and they're made from all vegan ingredients.

Josh: We need some clarity on the sugar thing.

Tommy: What do you— what's clarity? What clarity do you need, dude?

Josh: Well, I think it's still sugar. Sugar, sugar.

Tommy: No, it's— you can say sugar, sugar, but then Not unless you're adding white sugar to something. You can't say that this thing over here that has no white sugar in it isn't— is the same as that.

Josh: So what I know about it is it's like, but if there's no added sugar, it still has sugar. Yeah, so they're probably using like some form of—

Tommy: you're saying for the, for the majority of people, don't be fooled by where it says no sugar because you can have something that says no added sugar which means that it doesn't actually have any white sugar added to it.

Josh: They smell good. And so I feel like maybe we should start with your one based on palates. Yeah, because I think if we have Humpty first, Humpty's going to give us a little bit of that sort of like—

Tommy: so what we're going to do is we're going to just try a vegan egg, no added sugar, versus a non-vegan full-fat Um, yeah, egg. So they're super heavy, like this is—

Josh: Thank you. Now, Mum would always get very upset with how I ate my eggs.

Tommy: Yeah, because you deep throat them. What do you— what, what, what, why would she get annoyed with that? God, you look so special when you eat. It's beautiful, really. It's like It's so good. It is good, but you don't need to do that, right? Like what you just did now, and like you didn't need it.

Josh: You said you didn't understand why Mum got upset.

Tommy: No, but it's—

Josh: within 2 seconds. Why are you angry?

Tommy: Because you're now— just the way you're eating it is pissing me off. But Mr. 97, I've saved some for you, mate.

Josh: Yeah, I learned early on you got to get your whole mouth over the whole thing. No sharing.

Tommy: Um, Mr. 97, have a bit of that.

Josh: Yeah, this is, this is very good.

Tommy: It's nice. It tastes like a naughty egg. You don't need to continue eating it, dude. Seriously, we totally don't need to eat the whole entire egg on the show.

Josh: Can I keep it for mine?

Tommy: Of course you can, that's yours, bro.

Josh: But what happened last time, Scooter Derek came in and had my egg.

Tommy: Yeah, that's your— no, that's your egg. That's your egg, right? So we've done a taste test of, um, the vegan egg. It's amazing, like it's so good.

Josh: Would you like to do the honours of breaking the egg?

Tommy: Yeah, I'll just do it how I would have done it as a kid.

Josh: Okay, so it's a— it's actually— oh, I wouldn't do it like that.

Tommy: Oh, this is very— it's soft, it feels like it. Yeah, it's like—

Josh: be careful because there's beans in it. Yeah, okay, so it's like a, um, uh, so, okay, I'm gonna try this. Why don't you try some beans first?

Tommy: No, they're not beans, dude, don't give them that. They're Smarties.

Josh: So do you want to try some beans, 97?

Tommy: Um, I am 100% behind the vegan chocolate. That is so much better than that. No, I'm all right.

Josh: Have a bean.

Tommy: I don't need a bean.

Josh: Just have one bean. It's part of like— you don't— that's the whole—

Tommy: it's, it's shit chocolate. Sorry, Cabri. Um, that is crap.

Josh: Really?

Tommy: In comparison to the other chocolate. That's my opinion.

Josh: As a kid, it was— I was really into it.

Tommy: As a kid, it's like sugar's crack, so you literally just want whatever you can get.

Josh: It's not as good, is it?

Tommy: It's not as good. It's like, it's almost chalky or something. The, the vegan chocolate's like smooth. Um, Mr. 97, what did you think from the two?

Josh: Oh, well, he hasn't had any of the actual, uh, vegan chocolate. Will be better, but okay. He's very preemptive.

Tommy: I mean, he's a healthy boy. But it's, uh, just the textures.

Josh: Anyway, that's what I like about Hey Tiger because it's like they still have fun with the, the bits inside. Yeah, but it's a primo chocolate, whereas this feels like it's not a primo chocolate but it's got a bit of fun.

Tommy: It's $7 though for that stupid egg. Yeah, I mean, these were $5.50 each for a tiny, tiny little one, but this is heavier than what that one is. Now that's like when you, you've gone to your friend's house that their family doesn't eat chocolate much and they've still got chocolate in the pantry from 6 months ago.

Josh: It's a coin egg. Sorry, it's a coin chocolate.

Tommy: Yes.

Josh: Coin chocolate.

Tommy: Yeah, those, yeah, just that look like a coin. Yeah, that's such shit chocolate.

Josh: What's gonna happen with the snacks at the new office? Are we gonna have a snack?

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, this is where we need to go deep because I've been thinking about, so we're moving into an office in 1 week's time and it's much bigger than this. We're on our last fucking legs here. The office is messy. It's like when you're about to move house and you're like, why would I bother putting anything away?

Josh: Are you sweating, by the way?

Tommy: I'm not sweating.

Josh: I'm sweating.

Tommy: I think I had chocolate on my lips. Imagine if you finished that whole vegan egg.

Josh: Yeah, the funny thing is, the good thing is, it's that whole thing of like, I— it's like the Indian restaurant the other day. It's like if I think about it and I can have it later and it's the same amount of calories, I should— you've got chocolate on your lips.

Tommy: Do you want it?

Josh: No.

Tommy: So we're on the last legs here at this office, so I, I've been thinking about— so we need to sort of work out at least, um, the Ten Commandments, the 10 rules.

Josh: Very churchy episode.

Tommy: Well, it's a churchy vibe of a day.

Josh: Yeah, it's, um, well, that's one thing on the Easter thing very quickly. Uh, my, uh, Nana and Pa were very Catholic. Nana had like 12 priests at her funeral. Wow, it's impressive, isn't it? But I, but I wasn't that— I, I wasn't church. I didn't go to church and all that sort of thing, but my cousins and shit did. But my dad went to like a Catholic school, so I get that it's probably like— for some of our listeners, I wonder if there'd be heaps of people who, like, if you're Jewish, you're not having Easter. You're not having—

Tommy: we're not taking Ramadan as a holiday, which some people do.

Josh: I fast though. But yeah, so anyway, I know what you mean.

Tommy: The Christmas, Easter is like all these things centred around Catholicism, but yeah. Not everyone follows. Some people are atheists, some people are Jewish, whatever. And so a bunch of my Jewish friends take advantage of these days, even though they're flat-out Jews. They're like, you know, they're flat out— they're going to synagogue and all that.

Josh: They're still having eggs.

Tommy: Well, I think there are a lot of the things— a lot of the times, like, it was on Christmas, Christmas Day, they'll do their own get-together. No, no, go to the friends' who are Christian or who celebrate Christmas and maximise the opportunity to eat shit food. So it is a funny one though.

Josh: The Ten Commandments.

Tommy: Ten Commandments of the office. These are— I think we need 10 rules at least to start with as a basis around just rules of the office. That can include things like snacks, cleaning. Like, I mean, think about—

Josh: Why are you laughing, Mr. Nicey?

Mason: I'm just thinking about dishes and cleaning.

Tommy: Oh yeah, because you know that's your job, bruh.

Josh: Well, I won't use any dishes.

Tommy: One of the rules is you can't have an attitude. I think this is the first one. It's like, um, I had nothing to do with it, so it's not my problem. That's— I didn't use that, so I have to clean the shit off. No, I think that it's not a team. It's not. If we have— if we go in—

Josh: what about the fucker who uses the plate?

Tommy: No, but I reckon the first—

Josh: no, don't you think the first rule The first rule shouldn't be— I think it— what you're demonstrating is who the fucking Gronkh is. Okay, the first rule you're doing is even if you didn't messy the plate, if you see the plate, you should clean it up. How about the person who uses the fucking plate?

Tommy: Yeah, that is— that is— that should be like the, the rule that is— that's the number one unwritten rule. You don't like use it, put it away. But right now in this office, I don't think you can—

Josh: we have unwritten rules when we haven't got the rules yet.

Tommy: Right now we have a knife sitting over there that was used within a Fat Friday where Mr. 97 made some waffles. And Mr. 97, he makes the food, he washes the plates, he collects the plates. There are sometimes—

Josh: I'm gonna defend Mr. 97.

Tommy: And do you know where this knife is left? It's right next to Josh's desk. And I said, dude, I think Josh even put that from his desk up onto the fridge.

Josh: Not my knife.

Tommy: 'Not my knife, not my problem.' I tell you what, dude, it's your office as well and it's your fucking problem.

Josh: But this is—

Tommy: this is what you agree, Mr. 97?

Mason: I still can't believe it's been there.

Tommy: It's actually ridiculous. If it was next to my desk, I'd be like, 'I'll take some initiative here and actually put this knife away, maybe even wash it.' I think I'm a long-term game kind of guy. Like, what's the long-term game?

Josh: Well, I, I've got the ability to hold out someone else, but hey, no, but that is so not a team effort. Well, that's why we need to sort out the rules.

Tommy: You can't— it's not my problem is not a mantra that you can have within the new office space because it is everyone's problem, right? It's not— it's not my problem is not okay.

Josh: If I had a messy fork and I just put on the communal thing and it was closer to your desk, does that mean that it's now your problem?

Tommy: So what I would say is, hey guys, whose fork's this? And if everybody said I don't know. Well, what then? Am I going to go, so whose knife is that? Well, I don't know. I think what's happened is Mr. 97 was cutting them up, cooking them for us, putting in the effort. He washed about 70 plates, and potentially from one of our plates, we don't know, there was a knife that was left.

Josh: It's on your fridge.

Tommy: Dirty.

Josh: It's, it's near my desk. That's on your fridge.

Tommy: It's very 4 years old behavior. And so I think that's— see, this is, this is the rule, um, So what's the rule? What did I say, Mr. 97?

Josh: I said you can't even remember your own.

Tommy: It's no, because we're nutting it out. This is a time to explore. So it's, you cannot say it's not my problem because it's everyone's problem. And so that's, I think that just brings a level of team, you know, team, whatever, teammanship, whatever, whatever.

Josh: It brings up a high morale, I guess.

Tommy: Yeah, exactly, because then it's like, oh, I've got you back. Because sometimes you can't do it, you know, sometimes you can't plan it.

Josh: So, but maybe that should be 7th on the list.

Tommy: It can be 1. I don't think the commandments don't stand for first is most important to second.

Josh: Prioritize. No, you look up the commandments.

Tommy: Are the Ten Commandments prioritized? That's a good one.

Josh: Good question.

Tommy: It's a good question.

Josh: I love that. What's it called in the US where they have their, um, uh, the state?

Tommy: It's like a—

Josh: no, what's that called? How they keep all their guns in their hands.

Tommy: They wrote— yeah, yeah, yeah, the law, the, um, geez, we're fucking dumb. 97 amendments.

Josh: No, um, what's it called in the— wait, give me 10 amendments.

Tommy: No, yeah, yeah, I think it is the amendment, like the First Amendment. Yeah, yeah, it is, it is. And they were written a long time ago, but that's what we're doing. It's the commandments, the amendments, whatever it is. So I'll tell you one other— I'll just explore this.

Josh: Should we do one for one?

Tommy: I just want to tell you the storey about Amy. She— so I picked her up last— I picked her up last week after work as I normally do, and she got in and I kind of just, I just held off for a moment before I made a comment because I didn't want the first thing to be negative, flat-out accusations towards her.

Josh: Was it in regards to something that happened in the morning?

Tommy: It was in regards to a smell that was currently present in the car.

Josh: Go on.

Tommy: And And I— and I—

Josh: can we make this an Instagram snippet?

Tommy: I mean, I didn't want to accuse her of smelling like fish, but there was a fish smell in our car. And I said to her, I said, can you smell that? Can you smell that? It smells like— smells like fish. And she's like, oh, there was fish in the office. And I was just thinking, fish in an office? Like what, tuna can? That's not what this smells like. A fish and chippery, like like, you know, they've been searing fucking barramundi and it's gone through and they forgot to put the—

Josh: you know, very angry about stuff. I could— like, you're very angry about this fish.

Tommy: I'm not angry, but I was like, my nose was offended.

Josh: Wait, so how long will you get— what was the timeline that you thought was a couple of minutes? A couple of minutes.

Tommy: You know, darling, how was your day?

Josh: Oh, and then, what fucking smells like fish?

Tommy: Yeah, fish is offensive, dude. Don't you reckon? Like the smell of fish, and it hangs as well.

Josh: Oh mate, so what did you work out? What was it, her clothing? Or—

Tommy: she said to me, no, it was in the office. And I was like, I, I almost was like, shit, like that can't happen. But then she said to me, no, it was blah blah blah, they were cooking fish. And I was like, what do you mean cooking fish? Have you got like a fucking range hood and a cooktop? She's like, no, George, the person had the sandwich maker.

Josh: Oh no. And was searing a piece of salmon. No, you can't do that.

Tommy: Searing salmon in the office. I found out that you can't even—

Josh: we can't even— Bree won't let me cook fish in our pans. We're not allowed to cook them in our pans. I have to go— I cooked fish last night. Yeah, uh, in the barbecue, on the barbecue outside.

Tommy: I love that. I love that. That's something you should do. No one should ever be searing salmon on a fucking sandwich press in a confined office space. But what happened and this is, I think, why it smelt so bad. The person never ate the fish because what they realized—

Josh: bad, bad idea.

Tommy: No, it was like off. They'd waited a few too many days.

Josh: Fish.

Tommy: So they'd cooked—

Josh: they'd heated it up.

Tommy: I don't know.

Josh: What department were they in?

Tommy: I don't know. It was just— it's a new workplace, so I'm being delicate about— well, this is the new office.

Josh: I would have thought it would have been the old office. I wouldn't have brought up anything from the new one.

Tommy: No, no, no, but Amy's in charge. Amy told anyone—

Josh: this is why I get nervous about about telling people about the podcast. Yes, true.

Tommy: No, I think they were pretty ashamed of what they'd done, and I think there's now a rule that you're not allowed to do that in their office. So no searing of salmon or fish of any kind.

Josh: What is the actual rule?

Tommy: Why don't I know? So for us, I think it's like if we're to cook anything that could potentially have a smell about it that could linger, that's, that's horrible, that could, um, you know, offend anyone's nostrils it has to be done outside on the Weber. Like, we have to take—

Josh: I think, um, what about cleaning the barbecue? Cleaning the barbecue is a big issue.

Tommy: Actually, what we're going to face is something a little more complex, is because we've got 3 stories.

Josh: We need Dr. Jason Fox here to talk about it.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, he's an organisational psychologist, so he's not—

Josh: he's actually not— you know, I've said that to you multiple times. Yeah, he's— he does a lot in that space.

Tommy: So he's a psychologist?

Josh: No, he's not a psychologist. He's He's a— find out what's his— He's a doc philosopher. Yeah, philosopher, that's right. He's a doctor in philosophy.

Tommy: Okay, he's smarter than all of us. So anyway, 3 stories. Ground floor is our car park storage. Middle floor is our studio. Top floor is production space. Middle floor though—

Josh: No food or drink.

Tommy: Well, the problem is our live streaming podcasting space is there, but so is our kitchen. And there's going to be a big problem if Mr. 97, the leanest one in the office, is bringing his, you know, zucchini frittatas.

Josh: Do you reckon he's the leanest?

Tommy: He's definitely the leanest in terms of how we know what you weigh. Uh, 74. Yeah, but weight doesn't equate to— unless you're 150 kilos, I'd say, bro, you're going to be struggling to be lean at that weight. But if you— yeah, so I guess the lower weight you are, the higher chance of being lean.

Josh: Anyway, I was just curious.

Tommy: We can do it.

Mason: 74. 74.

Tommy: Yeah, we can do it.

Josh: We could get to 74.

Tommy: You wouldn't want to get to 74. You were dying at that, at that weight. You're 6 2. You don't need a bit anyway.

Josh: Um, what do you reckon you're weighing at the moment?

Tommy: I weigh 88, 89. I've weighed 98 before.

Josh: We should do the DEXA scan thing.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah. Anyway, um, so yeah, we've got a problem because it's on that floor and we've got guests coming. We can't, we can't have— I mean, even just like Mexican smell. Oh, Mexican.

Josh: It's a kitchenette, not a kitchen as well.

Mason: Yeah, we don't actually have like a stovetop.

Tommy: No, no stovetop. We'll have the outside, um, Weber, and maybe we could even bring a microwave upstairs.

Josh: Or we'd want to— there's a microwave actually, there's a spot for it in the kitchenette.

Tommy: Okay, so we'll bring the one that I've got from here. Yeah, yeah, great. So okay, they're my two rules: we cannot cook anything offensive to the nostrils if we know we have guests, and definitely not fish. So just the not offensive to the nostrils is a pretty good top-tier rule. Okay, but then that has a few little, you know, caveats within that.

Josh: What about if we were to get You know, we talk about getting a drink deal or something, having a fizzy water company. Yes. Giving us like a bottle, you know, slabs of fizzy water. What do you think? I think that we would need a rule around how many you can have.

Tommy: Definitely.

Josh: Because I think that it would quickly be taking—

Tommy: He's saying that from— I mean, I'm pretty guilty of going hard.

Josh: You've— I have rationed out chewing gum.

Tommy: No, you haven't, mate. I saw your fucking pantry at home.

Josh: Yeah, but it's at home.

Tommy: 150 packets. I'm rationing it in the office.

Josh: I'm bringing out Slowly because I don't want baby to eat them all at once.

Tommy: You know who eats them though? Big, um, big Conspiracy Jimmy.

Josh: Jimmy, I say, mate, take the packet, and he goes, no, no, no. He just gets one at a time.

Tommy: No, I'm pretty sure he's doing two when he knows the stocks are up. He's getting two. I get it. There is— I mean, Mr. 97 is not one that we have to worry about because we offer him everything and he says no to most things.

Josh: He says no to you more than me, I reckon.

Tommy: Uh, or I'm just the more polite one asking him more and you're just asking him.

Josh: You just ask him dumb things.

Tommy: I asked, do you want a drink? Okay, yeah, I guess I asked the exact same. What is that about? What is that about, Mason? It just depends.

Mason: It depends on what it is. I mean, like drinks, I don't usually get drinks.

Josh: Yeah, I think I normally ask him when it's outside of normal working hours, so his ability to say no is lower. So he's probably saying no based on this idea that maybe from a health point of view, a hot chocolate, or—

Tommy: but if I get him at like, I'll do it like a 3 PM 'You want a hot chocolate?' Yeah, he's not a coffee guy either, so if he was hooked on that cup of joe, he'd be more inclined, I think, because the addiction takes over at that point.

Josh: Do you think you could get into coffee?

Mason: Uh, I like the whole idea of it, like it looks like having the drip coffee and yeah, that sort of stuff is cool, but I don't know, I couldn't. No, no, not with the financial burden.

Josh: What about if we were to provide you coffee, would it be something you'd get into?

Mason: No, I don't think so.

Josh: Based on our financial—

Mason: No, no, yeah, no, I don't want to develop, I don't want to develop a habit of it.

Tommy: Okay, okay, he's scared, he's scared.

Josh: I mean, you go through a pack of ciggies. Isn't it weird to think that that was, that would have been an issue 20 years ago? Which, uh, which floors can you smoke on?

Tommy: Yeah, can you smoke?

Josh: No, don't smoke on the middle floor.

Tommy: I think it's, um It's a big issue in big business of having lots of staff and potentially some of them smoke and they want to go down for a ciggy break. You can't do it, bro. It's not okay just to pop down for a smoke.

Josh: Even like at school, at the staff— I remember mum telling me that like she would go to parent-teacher— what is it? No, not the school council and shit. And yeah, the— or like in the morning, did your mum ever do this? Or dad? Like in the mornings dropping you off in primary school and then you'd go into the staff room and they would have coffee?

Tommy: Uh, I remember the staff room having coffee. My parents wouldn't have gone in.

Josh: Yeah, my mum was like right into it, so she would go and like they would all chat and all that sort of thing. But I remember there was a time, I think in the early '90s, where this— you would open the staff room and it would be like plumes of smoke.

Tommy: No, fuck, that would have been definitely early '90s. I mean, people— yeah, I mean, people are smoking everywhere for period of time, but we don't have to worry about smoking. Just go outside. Yeah, nowhere near.

Josh: Yeah, well, there's actually signs outside of our building, no smoking everywhere. I don't know why that is.

Tommy: Yeah, um, with the, the problem of the rule that you've brought up, we actually, we need action and get a—

Josh: well, yeah, that's the biggest thing with the rules is to actually write them down.

Tommy: Well, Mr. 97, I see him penning.

Mason: Yeah, I'm writing down.

Tommy: Okay, okay, good.

Josh: So we don't have a rule No, you've already done one. What was my rule?

Tommy: But you can go again because I did two.

Josh: But what was my rule?

Tommy: Two for two. Your rule was something around the rationing of the drinks. We need to—

Josh: No, that's not a rule though.

Mason: Okay, so we're on rule two. The first one was you can't say it's not my problem. The second one was no nostril offenders.

Tommy: Okay, and then this one is the drinks. And so what's the specifics of this? This is— what do you think? I think if we say let's go cans of drink.

Josh: No, let's fuck off that one. I don't care. I don't want to use mine up on that because I think that you would— we're going to have to do that anyway, right? Uh, no spraying of any aerosol cans including Rexona deodorant in the building at all, and no entering the workplace within 15 seconds of spraying a deodorant can.

Tommy: I will, um change this rule up slightly because I think that's why we're bringing them to the table. The toilet is the only place that it can be applied.

Mason: No, you should do it on the top balcony. The toilet will go straight.

Tommy: No, mate, what about fucking rain? What about if we're there, we're doing a big session, I've— I think you just need pouring rain outside and I need to have a shower. You do it in the garage.

Josh: Yeah, I just don't think you— I don't think—

Tommy: Garage? Is the garage all right?

Josh: I think that you could potentially do it in the bathroom. If you were to— the problem with doing in the bathroom, the film, but also—

Tommy: no, okay, I'm on board because the toilet is on the level also of our studio. So garage, garage, that's a good place. I could have like a little— because what I like to do is have a deodorant can and you could do it, get upstairs.

Josh: Can you just move? Can you go to a roll-on?

Tommy: Well, I'm happy to have both, but I sometimes like having one that's just a bit—

Josh: mate, I'm a carcinogenic.

Tommy: I've got a lot of testosterone and I fucking stink. So I need to fight this with fucking Rexona.

Josh: I don't know, I reckon— I think your problem isn't that and it's the fact that like you wait too long. You should be putting deodorant on when you like— as soon as you're out of the shower.

Tommy: What's your morning look like?

Josh: But the thing is—

Tommy: What does your morning look like?

Josh: A lot of that. But the thing— I understand you're making a smoothie for your kid, I get that.

Tommy: I'm also preparing all of our food. Getting fucking angry. But you're saying that—

Josh: that is— that the reason— because you're saying—

Tommy: all I'm saying—

Josh: I smell more because of my testosterone. I'm saying it's because you wait 4 hours before you put deodorant on. And if you didn't—

Tommy: I definitely have higher levels of testosterone, just saying.

Josh: But I think mine would be higher than yours. Have you seen my hairline?

Tommy: No, mate, that's just hereditary baldness. No, um, I forget sometimes, and that's the problem.

Josh: I don't think your problem is I'm like naturally a smellier guy. I think your problem is 4 days out of the week, but this is—

Tommy: I wait until this is the way, 10 AM to put on deodorant. But that's me saying like, that's the choice I've made. I just forget, and I do— we have multiple deodorants around the house, so I do get it done. And all I'm saying is I just think there needs to be a level, like the food thing, it has to be cooked outside. This can be done In the—

Josh: well, I just worry that that rule then— I reckon the rule should be put deodorant on before you get to work.

Tommy: No, no, that can't be the rule.

Mason: Don't—

Tommy: Mr. 97, this is going personal. This is going real personal. This is getting into like, um, personal rules outside of work. So we're talking office rules. No, no, no application of, um, uh, what do you call it, uh, you know, aerosol, aerosol. No, no application of aerosols on any other level than the ground.

Josh: I think that it would be— I think it'd be a good self-development for you to try and put the deodorant on.

Tommy: I'll try that, and I'll go to the gym. Yeah, you need more than that. Steroids for that testosterone. No, I'm saying I'll try, but we'll also have that rule because then it's nice across the board, you know. Okay, you've got Dylan, you know, he's, he's in there. He— we don't know his, um, his application of deodorizers, what his, you know, thing is. He might be thrown off because he's from Canada.

Josh: I get it.

Tommy: I can forget all that.

Josh: Have you been using the deodorant I got you?

Mason: Yeah, Mr. Pitts.

Josh: Okay, yeah. How far through are you?

Mason: Uh, nearly running out because I've just run out. This is— I would, I would say I've got like—

Josh: no, no, it's a cream.

Mason: It's, it's a paste. Yeah, you think it's, it's pretty whack like when you first start doing it, but it's like you get used to it.

Tommy: You don't smell at all. It's not as whack as what my mum had when I was a kid growing up. Crystal.

Josh: Crystal.

Tommy: It was a crystal, but it was like, you know, you're seeing this moist, damp crystal. It's like, it just looks gross, don't you reckon? It's like, that's probably why they don't sell. They just— maybe they pivoted into, um, jade eggs.

Josh: It's the Daily Talk Show. Hi@thedailytalkshow.com is the email. Monday, Lewis Spears is on the show.

Tommy: Yeah, he's a comedian, online personality. Yeah, online personality, but we're also big unit, kind of related. He's my brother's wife, it's her cousin, so my sister's wife's cousin. Yeah, we spent a few Christmases together and stuff, and he's killing it online, so I'm excited to chat to him about that. We've got through how many rules? We, we, how many rules did we do, Mr. Nice Guy?

Mason: 3.

Tommy: Okay, so we're 3 rules into the 10 Commandments. If you've got any rules that are currently in your workplace or you think need to be implemented—

Josh: we need to be open to the rules as well. I feel like— don't you think a showstopper is when you say it's getting a bit personal? It's—

Tommy: but it is. Am I telling you the new rule is unless you have done a workout at the gym before you get to the office?

Josh: I think there's a huge difference between body odour and hygiene versus fitness. And I know that you don't want a fat business partner. You've said it.

Tommy: I fucking have not said that.

Josh: You've said it. You don't want a fat business partner. It's a Daily Talk Show. We'll see you Monday.

Tommy: He said that.