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Borrowed & Broken

It's blame day and we talk about what happened to the Hey Tiger chocolate Josh brought in for everyone in the office, Mr. 97's coconut trouble, and if Dyl has learned his lesson from his unprepared hiking.

Show Notes

–Josh's peanut butter problem
–Mr. 97's house sitting struggles
–Borrowing and breaking other people's possessions
–Frugal FWs
–3D-Dyl's lessons learned from hiking

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At a glance

From this episode’s transcript.

  • –Borrowing items (prams, books, lights, cameras) creates social obligations that can be awkward to navigate when something breaks or isn't returned.
  • –The hosts define a 'gronk move' versus a 'fuckwit move' around frugality as whether the behavior negatively impacts other people.
  • –Simple mechanical mistakes (sticky tape over a drone sensor, blending frozen fruit too hard in an old NutriBullet) can cause expensive or messy equipment failures.
  • –A real-world hiker death near Marysville prompted the team to reflect on being properly prepared and equipped (e.g., carrying a sleeping bag) when hiking or camping.
  • –Josh prefers to be the one who gets paid back rather than the one who owes money, since he trusts himself to repay but not others to always follow through.

Questions this episode answers

What happened to the chocolate Tommy brought into The Daily Talk Show office?

Tommy brought in three blocks of chocolate from Hey Tiger (where his partner Bri works) with a note saying the team could have some if there was any left; George Martin (3D Dyl) ended up eating most of it, including while supposedly cleaning the office, leaving little for the hosts.

What should you do if you break something you borrowed, like a pram?

According to Josh's account, when a borrowed pram cracked due to a design flaw, he and his partner sourced a secondhand pram in better condition and swapped parts before returning it, rather than paying for full replacement parts, which would have been very expensive.

Is there a real difference between 'aluminium' and 'aluminum'?

The hosts speculate that 'aluminium' refers to the raw material while 'aluminum' is used by people in certain industries or regions, and note that Jony Ive (a British Apple designer) says 'aluminum' despite being British, possibly because Apple is an American company, though no one on the show is fully certain of the distinction.

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Episode TranscriptShow
0:00

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show. It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 394.

0:07

Josh: What's happening, guys? Happy Monday.

0:09

Tommy: It is, it is the 15th of July. Yeah, 4:48 PM here in Melbourne, Australia.

0:16

Josh: How are you?

0:18

Tommy: It's 2:48 AM in New York City.

0:20

Josh: Is it? And where— what's the time in Italy? Uh, preferably Serrano.

0:26

Tommy: Actually, I don't know. The reason that you bring it up though, can you look it up what time it is in Serrano, please?

0:31

Josh: Italy.

0:32

Tommy: Mr. 97. No, we're listening just before, we're listening to last year's episode, this time last year.

0:39

Mason: Yeah.

0:40

Tommy: Which there wasn't an episode on the 15th, 'cause that was a Sunday. We weren't doing 7 days a week then. But on the 16th of July, I was in a small town of Italy called Serrano.

0:52

Josh: That's right. And you met that person who does something with farm or like market stuff.

1:02

Tommy: Take that hair tie off the microphone. Anyway, that, um, how long has that been on for?

1:08

Josh: Just today. Did you know that I was gonna— did you know that if I want to bling up my fucking microphone, I will bling it up.

1:15

Tommy: It's probably gonna fuck the acoustics as well.

1:16

Josh: I will put stickers, I will put anything I want. Don't ever tell me what to do.

1:21

Tommy: I actually put a sticker on my drone I took it in for repair. They're like, the sticker will absolutely fuck the GPS, take it off.

1:30

Josh: But they're always big babies. Here's a storey for you. My drone, the, the, like, the, the face shield, like the camera shield. So you like lock it in position with this little plastic thing and then you put a shield over it. That just means you can whack it in your bag. Nothing's going to hit it. It had a bit of plastic on it that went up and then went down the other side. I let sticky tape and I left the sticky tape on. Over one of the sensors and it was the sensor for the ground. So I was bringing it down to land and I was like, ah, why is it going so fast, so close to the ground? Just because—

2:04

Tommy: Oh, so it just, it was always hitting the ground hard because it couldn't see the ground.

2:08

Josh: Yeah, only for like one, uh, twice, and then I worked it out what the fuck happened. So, but the second time I was landing it like, ah, this is going to happen again, isn't it? But it didn't know where the ground was. Poor little baby had its eyes closed.

2:20

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, it's like the, um, peeling anything off Like, is it— was it almost like one of those screen peely type of things?

2:28

Josh: Oh, no, no, no. This was just a piece of plastic, a piece of sticky tape I'd put on because my— the thing broke.

2:35

Tommy: Okay.

2:35

Josh: Just the little bits broke. But remember, you met someone from Abbotsford over in Serrano.

2:40

Tommy: Oh, that's right.

2:41

Josh: At a wine bar.

2:41

Tommy: Yeah, yeah.

2:42

Josh: Mate, I tell you what, this guy has a memory of a goldfish. You've actually got the worst memory of anyone I know.

2:46

Tommy: I've got good long-term memories.

2:49

Josh: For shit that you like.

2:50

Tommy: Yeah, but, uh, you know, don't you want to forget most of your childhood? No, you like— That's very true. That's it.

2:58

George: But what do you think it is?

2:59

Josh: Do you think it's, um, do you need fish oil?

3:02

Tommy: I need to— I reckon at the moment I'm having way too many peanut butter pieces of toast.

3:09

Josh: There's definitely— there's— diet's influential on memory, isn't it?

3:15

Tommy: So definitely peanut butter toast is not good because I've been having at least 3 a day.

3:20

Josh: Well, the only reason is because we have it here in the office. There's a thing it's like, and you're not a man with a great deal of self-control with food. Fair, fair. Yeah, that's fair.

3:29

Tommy: That's fair.

3:30

Josh: I think, yeah, I'm probably the same. If I like, if I've got it at home, it's a problem for me.

3:35

Tommy: So maybe we have the same level of self-control, but I bring this stuff into the house.

3:41

Josh: I mean, the biggest Gronkh move was what happened when Mason and I were slogging away, working for the boys out on a shoot all day. We started early, we finished late. We were doing lots of filming, making money for the business.

3:53

Tommy: Can I actually—

3:54

Josh: I want to throw 3D Dill under the bus because you know where I'm going with this.

3:58

Tommy: Yeah, because it's so— so Bri works at Hey Tiger, which some of the best chocolate you can get. It's like primo shit. And they had a photo shoot on and for some reason they gave Bri like, well, I mean, they didn't give Bri, Bri was like running the shoot. She got the, the box of all the chocolate that was used.

4:18

Josh: Great. In the whole shoot, man, I didn't give a shit if it had, you know, dirty little fingers on it.

4:23

Tommy: And so she was— yeah, exactly. And so she was divvying it all up and she said, I've got some for your office. Now, I put— there was 3 full blocks and I wrapped them up in like, um, some paper or whatever, brought them in. And what did I say to you, 3D Dill? Do you remember?

4:39

George: You said it's like, it's free chocolate if the guys can have it when they come back if there's any left.

4:44

Tommy: And Well, I don't know if I said if there was any left.

4:48

Josh: You put a note on it?

4:49

Tommy: Well, this is— yeah, maybe I was too encouraging.

4:52

Josh: Did you put a note on it?

4:53

Tommy: Yeah, I did.

4:54

Josh: First of all, we don't work in a 70-person office where you need to go, oh, just in case I don't see anyone, I have to, you know, send out an all-staff email. It's like small team here, guys.

5:05

Tommy: Slack, to be honest, if I'd slacked it, it probably would have been better because you would have then said, hey.

5:10

Josh: So what they did was we got back You know what, you shouldn't have even told us. You shouldn't have told us.

5:14

Tommy: I don't know if I did. I think Bree told.

5:15

Josh: No, no, no, you told us, mate.

5:17

Tommy: I wasn't expecting you to be so mad.

5:19

Josh: So he tells us that they had chocolate and he put it into the kitchen with a sign on it, and then I said, where's the chocolate? And he said, we ate it all.

5:28

Tommy: Well, so I had 3 bars of shit. This is 3 blocks.

5:32

Josh: I mean, 3 blocks. Yeah, isn't that 3 bars?

5:34

Tommy: Like, when I think of bars, I think of that.

5:36

Josh: This is like family chocolate export here.

5:38

Tommy: Expert exploit. No, but I've got to call 3D Dill out for being very greedy because he did. You did. There was a point where I went upstairs. I hadn't had any of it yet. Actually, no, I'd had a small little piece. Right. But then I went upstairs and then half an hour later I went to get some more.

5:58

Josh: Yeah.

5:59

Tommy: And there was an entire block gone.

6:02

Josh: Yeah.

6:03

George: To be fair, you said, let's clean the office.

6:06

Tommy: Yeah.

6:06

George: And I said, all right. So I went down and started vacuuming and I think you were upstairs on the phone and I was like, oh, I need some snacks. So I was eating the chocolate as I'm cleaning the office and I come up and your desk was still a mess. Yeah, well, I can't do that. Nothing had changed. Well, I never—

6:22

Tommy: Josh was one thing at a fucking time. At the moment we're dealing with the chocolate.

6:26

Josh: He knows how to divert, doesn't he?

6:27

Tommy: No, but he's fine.

6:28

George: I did eat. I did eat a lot of chocolate.

6:30

Josh: Yeah. So you're going to replace it.

6:32

Tommy: So, I mean, boys, At some point. It's not happening, but the— I'm sure I'll be able to hook us up with some more chocolate.

6:40

Josh: Nah, it's done. We're done. We'll just work hard for this business and have you guys not think about us, not put us first.

6:47

Tommy: No, no, no.

6:47

Josh: Mason, how you feeling?

6:49

Mason: Yeah, I'm a bit disappointed actually.

6:51

George: You're disappointed because you went to the effort of putting a note on it.

6:56

Tommy: Yeah, no, I mean, I'm disappointed at 3D Dylan, the way that he just scoffed it down. I ended up— because the point was When I looked at it, he'd eaten so much, I'm like, the boys can't share half a block left. So I just, I don't know, it was a storey that I told, which is probably incorrect.

7:10

George: That's your fault.

7:10

Tommy: But I mean, the reason why Mr. 97 isn't doing so well is because he's had an absolute shocker in regards to the Coconut Crew lifestyle.

7:21

Mason: Why?

7:22

Josh: What do you mean? It's getting the better of you. I mean, you guys are living a pretty healthy existence. I mean, the coconut oozing into your skull and just, you know, not anymore. What happened?

7:34

Mason: I was, uh, I was having a shower yesterday, and this is last night, and I brought in, uh, like a jar of coconut oil with me into the bathroom.

7:46

Tommy: It's not your bathroom. This is—

7:48

Josh: is this Ep 14? Is that how you did it?

7:51

Tommy: Yeah, well, it's not even his bathroom. He's house sitting Jason's place.

7:56

Mason: Yeah, and so I brought it in and it was sort of like I put it next to the towel and I grabbed the towel, and as I grabbed the towel, it knocked the coconut oil off, uh, like the benchtop onto the floor and smashed the glass everywhere. And I was ready to hop in the shower.

8:13

Josh: So I knew—

8:14

Mason: yeah, so I had to get— I had to get dressed and I had to go get the broom and start brooming all of it up.

8:20

Josh: Were you nude still?

8:21

Mason: No, I got—

8:22

Josh: what did you put on? Doing anything nude around the house, like Yeah, just vacuuming nude, weird.

8:29

Tommy: It's just a weird feeling, you know. Yeah, Bree did that over the weekend. She just, she's completely naked and she just got her bag. She's like, all right, I'm ready to go.

8:38

Josh: Did she? Yeah, that's pretty funny.

8:41

Tommy: A bit of that gear. But so funny, just acting cool about it. It's like, come on, I paid that. Um, no, but the— I mean, house sitting, it's always risky. I, um Oh yeah, that's right.

8:55

Josh: We're not the first fuck-up. I mean, that's just what you've done to your own personal product. What have you done to the something else in that house?

9:04

Mason: Yeah, there was—

9:05

Josh: he doesn't want to talk about it just in case Jake's listening.

9:07

Tommy: No, that's fine.

9:08

Mason: No, well, I blame Andre, but I was blitzing—

9:11

Josh: it's Blame Monday.

9:12

Mason: Yeah, exactly. I was, I was blitzing my smoothie this morning and I got like halfway through it and it was struggling and it was starting to smell a little bit like the motor was burning. Oh, I know that smell.

9:25

Josh: And so that smell.

9:27

Mason: Yeah. And so I took it off and I left it for about 5 minutes. I was like, I'll just come back when it's cooled down a little bit because Andre had already blitzed his and it was like smelly and it wasn't, it wasn't going great. So I left it for 5 minutes.

9:38

Josh: Trail of blame, right?

9:41

Mason: Left it for 5 minutes, went and put the smoothie back in the NutriBullet and twisted it for it to start blitzing and it just didn't blitz. No blitz, no blitz. And so I flicked the switch off and on. Dil recommended I switch the, um, the port that it's plugged into, but I reckon we might have cooked the, uh, smoothie.

9:58

Josh: Yeah, but he also reckons that the whole place shut down of power. Yeah, at this office.

10:03

Tommy: Yeah, it didn't happen.

10:04

Josh: It didn't happen in the microwave. It's the telltale sign.

10:06

Mason: So I had, I had a real like, um, chunky smoothie this morning.

10:10

Josh: I know, but you also have left one Jacob without a bullet.

10:15

Tommy: I mean, so this, this, the big question is, yeah, is, so I am talking about drones earlier. I crashed my mate's drone. Cost— I didn't buy a drone because I was trying to save money for a US trip. Ended up costing, I think it was like $2,700, which was a really annoying—

10:33

Mason: Mine's like a $200 fix, not even.

10:36

Josh: Yeah, I mean, but for you, that's $2,700.

10:38

Tommy: Yeah.

10:39

Josh: What are you going to do?

10:41

Mason: Uh, I'm going to test it when I get home, and if it doesn't work, then I'm going to test it tomorrow.

10:46

Josh: I mean, if it was just plugged into the PowerPoint and you can't turn it on, off. It's not gonna work. Why would it go back on? Let's just cool down a bit. Yeah, I just thought, oh, you know what, I needed a break.

10:56

Mason: Things just break, who knows.

10:58

Tommy: It's only when you touch them, i.e., the NAS, but we won't go there.

11:01

Josh: Um, but what did, um, what did Andre say? What did Andre the dog say?

11:06

Mason: We've just, we've just left it. He's— yeah, we've just left it.

11:10

Josh: No, but what did he— was he like, oh, if this is done, we'll replace it?

11:15

Mason: No, we, we both agreed that we'd test it tonight and then we'll figure it out.

11:19

Tommy: We half it though, the cost?

11:21

Josh: Maybe.

11:22

Tommy: Well, I know what it's about.

11:23

Josh: You, he's, he's blaming it on you.

11:25

Mason: I was, I was the last one who used it when it broke, so.

11:28

Josh: But he warmed up. He— what about if he went too fucking hard? Yeah, at the start.

11:32

Tommy: But you don't know whether— did yours go on at all?

11:35

Mason: So the machine's old as well, it's like 3 years old, so, so it's like it was, it was on the verge of packing it in anyway.

11:41

Tommy: So yeah, this is what's annoying, like, so our, um Vacuum at home is not working. Yeah, and because I fucking bring it into the office once, it's like, you fucked it in the office.

11:50

Josh: No, remember you brought it in the office and you started vacuuming, it's like, it's already dead. Yeah, and then you put it back on the charger and then you're like, it's already dead. And then I grabbed it and used it, it was like, mate, this thing dies in a second. How old is it?

12:01

Tommy: Oh, it's like 3 years old.

12:03

Josh: It's one of the battery-powered ones. That's a problem. I've got one that plugs into the wall, it's a fucking workhorse, a Dyson. We borrowed— well We, Amy worked with the girl and the woman offered her the pram that she had for her daughter. And so she, her daughter's now like 4 or 5 or whatever. Can't like, you stop using the pram at like, I mean, we haven't used our main pram in months. He's now got his little bike. He just hoon and walks.

12:30

Tommy: It's crazy. Go on Tommy's Instagram account.

12:32

Josh: Yeah, he's a little daredevil, but she offered it to us and it wasn't something that Amy seeked out.

12:38

Tommy: Was she borrowing it? Was she lending it?

12:40

Josh: She was lending it. Yeah, you take it, take it, give it back and I'll probably use it for my—

12:45

Tommy: I don't like borrowing anything off anyone.

12:47

Josh: Yeah, but there was a few little cracks, like the way they're built. It was a massive flaw in the design. It's like this small little aluminium piece that is around the wheelbase. Aluminium.

13:01

Tommy: What about it? Aluminium.

13:03

Josh: Aluminium? How do you say it?

13:05

George: I say it aluminium.

13:06

Tommy: Aluminium.

13:07

Josh: Aluminium.

13:08

Tommy: The joke isn't that you said aluminium, it's that you said aluminium.

13:14

Josh: Aluminium. No, you know why? A guy used to hang out with, my best friend when I was young, his dad used to say aluminium.

13:21

Tommy: And so now you just say it. Just roll with it. So anyway, it's made of aluminium.

13:25

Josh: Yep. Aluminium.

13:27

Tommy: And there is actually a difference between aluminium and aluminium.

13:29

Josh: What's the difference, guys?

13:31

Tommy: I believe aluminium—

13:32

Josh: Well, he's the guy that says it. What's the difference?

13:34

George: I have no idea.

13:35

Josh: Okay, why are you saying it then?

13:36

Tommy: I think aluminium might be the raw material. Whereas aluminium is— people are probably in their cars. You're probably in your car right now.

13:47

Josh: I mean, if you know this, you're walking, you're a nerd.

13:49

Tommy: What the fuck? Or you work in aluminium. True.

13:52

Josh: True. And it's just degraded your profession.

13:55

Tommy: Sorry, but you could be pretty low level in a role that where you deal with aluminium.

14:00

Josh: Yeah. I mean, we've got two gronks on the case, 3G Deal and Mr.

14:04

George: Noise.

14:04

Josh: It's going to find it first.

14:06

George: It's just like Canadian and American spelling versus British.

14:11

Tommy: I don't know if it is.

14:11

Josh: Well, you're the guy who brought it to us, so bring it with facts, bro.

14:15

Tommy: Because, um, Johnny Ive would say aluminum. He'd say, you know, the new MacBook Pro is made of aluminum. Oh, he wouldn't have an American— he's British. Yeah, but he says aluminum. Any word on it, Mr. 97?

14:30

Josh: He's looking at Nutribullet prices.

14:31

Mason: Yeah, um, I think they're about $150.

14:36

Josh: Oh, he's found them on bloody OzBargain.

14:37

Mason: Um, no, I think it is is the difference between American and British.

14:42

George: Yeah, because like Johnny Ive's a British guy, but Apple's an American company.

14:46

Josh: Sure, he's speaking their speak.

14:48

Tommy: Talking about electricity, every time—

14:50

Josh: but just quickly, every time there's a little flash, you're not going to actually see that on the light though.

14:56

Tommy: But are we eventually going to fix it or not?

14:58

Josh: You can't fix it.

14:59

Tommy: Well, you just said you have to install a whole new—

15:01

Josh: oh, it's a whole new fucking circuit. It's power because it's a part of our circuit. I asked my brother, And when you're flicking it and it's just giving it a slight—

15:09

Tommy: Smith Straight Nando's is horrendous. I don't know if you noticed that.

15:13

Josh: Yeah, yeah, that's a different— that's a whole different problem. It's not the same. Anyway, uh, borrowed this pram, it cracks, and what do you do? Like, if you're lent something and there's a— like, there's a— it's not broken as such. It's not like we flipped it and it cracked and it was a clear fuck-up.

15:32

Mason: Do you—

15:32

Josh: what do you do? Like, do you—

15:34

Tommy: well, I don't borrow shit.

15:36

Josh: Yeah, but I know, but what's the, what's the obligation from someone? I think it's clear if you're— I mean, that's a hard one. Is it just a— I mean, you were probably— to be fair, were you blending rock hard fruits?

15:49

Mason: Frozen berries, frozen spinach.

15:51

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You basically— yes.

15:54

Tommy: But what are you, what are you—

15:55

Mason: milk?

15:55

Tommy: What's the deal? He can only blend if it's a banana?

15:58

Mason: Uh, frozen bananas as well.

16:00

Tommy: Yeah, I get it.

16:02

Josh: No, but he's working it. He's working the thing. But I mean, it's still the thing. Like, I don't think it's a roulette game that you're playing.

16:09

Tommy: Like, imagine having a— imagine like smashing someone's car. I don't drive anyone's car, like, but I don't even let anyone drive my car. It's like when we've done those big trips to regional New South Wales, I'll say I'll drive.

16:21

Josh: I mean, I think the car thing is quite clear. If I crash your car and I'm driving and the excess is $600, it's on me, bro. I like, it's not, it, you're not paying it, obviously. It's a massive fuck-up, but I think a car is quite clear because it's covered under insurance. Most other things aren't, right? Cameras, yeah, but even if like it's just an annoyance because a lot of times insurance covers stuff, but phones—

16:46

Tommy: I'm even funny about that.

16:48

Josh: Catch my phone, catch, catch.

16:50

Tommy: Yeah, sure, that was dangerous.

16:52

Josh: But Fitzie did that to me where I was like He threw me my phone and I looked over and he's like, he's like, oh, here, catch. And he threw it to me and I dropped it and it cracked.

17:03

Tommy: What about this?

17:04

Josh: Fucking hell. Anyway, the pram. Let me just finish that bit.

17:06

Tommy: I've got to—

17:07

Josh: All right. The pram. What would you do? Do you think I should like—

17:12

Tommy: You haven't given it back yet. Are the cracks noticeable?

17:15

Josh: Oh no, we've given it back. We've sorted it. I can tell you what we've done.

17:19

Tommy: You just fronted for them.

17:20

Josh: I think she wanted, she wanted us to replace the whole thing. Really? Like go and get replacement parts, which would have been fucking ridiculously expensive.

17:28

Tommy: So how do you then, how do you have a conversation?

17:33

Josh: Oh, it's hard because it's like you offered us a pram that was already used once.

17:37

Tommy: She didn't know she was offering it to a gronk though. No, no, no.

17:41

Josh: The thing about prams, they like after one kid, you know, they're not that great. Two kids. Yeah, sure, you're lucky you get through the second kid. 3 kids, you're dreaming.

17:54

Tommy: But I mean, does it make you rethink borrowing stuff?

17:58

Josh: Oh, I fucking don't like— I don't really like—

18:00

Tommy: RRP, how much?

18:02

Josh: So $700, $800.

18:04

Tommy: $700. So parts, $80?

18:07

Josh: Nah, nah, nah, I don't think I even paid parts. Anyway, what we did was, luckily, so they all like, they come apart, right? So we ended up taking— we ended up buying a secondhand one that was in better condition than the one.

18:21

Tommy: So annoying.

18:23

Josh: But we're even lucky we found it. So we bought it and then we just like switched out the top and told her, say, we found another one and we've now switched the top and put that onto there. So now you have a better base. Anyway, we gave her back one that was in better condition pretty much. But there was an ob— there was very much a, you better be sorting that out and fixing it.

18:44

Tommy: Yeah. I wonder, like, when it comes to books and things like that.

18:47

Josh: Oh, books.

18:48

Tommy: I like collecting my books, but sometimes it can be— I've had situations where I've lent books, but it's felt like it's a give, like I'm giving the book. I do give a lot of books as well.

19:01

George: Yeah.

19:02

Josh: I mean, you've forgotten cameras that are worth $800.

19:06

Tommy: Well, yeah. And that's the thing, like, I've— I was thinking— The lights. Who's the lights?

19:11

Josh: Someone had a light for about 9 weeks.

19:15

Tommy: Oh yeah, that's right.

19:16

Josh: I think you're a different guy now. I think you would front-foot it a bit more now.

19:20

Tommy: Yeah, maybe if I need it. I mean, I'm trying to be more frugal without being— is it possible to be a frugal and not a fuckwit?

19:28

Josh: Yeah, frugal. Give me an example of how you'd be frugal.

19:34

Tommy: Removing my Spotify Premium for a week.

19:38

Josh: Um, with the amount you talk about it, fuckwit. Does it affect others? I think you're— if the frugalness of it directly impacts the people around you, gronk move and fuckwit.

19:50

Tommy: Okay, yeah. So when is it a gronk move? Uh, because fuckwit seems a bit harsh, but there was actually a time—

19:56

Josh: gronks it much.

19:58

Tommy: I've told you about my relationship with my family and brothers. There was a time where I introduced my brother James on the basketball court as James FW Jansen, standing for fuckwit. That's so good. Yeah, so no wonder you have such a strong relationship with your brother. He won't come on Weekend Banter. That's fine, whatever. They're never coming on. Did he know?

20:24

George: Did he?

20:25

Tommy: Yeah, it got a real big laugh from everybody. Yeah, which is probably— which is sort of the But no, I think, um, I think when is it— when is saving— when is it okay to, um, be frugal with stuff, like applying it? Or, and when does it get too far? When is it affecting other people?

20:44

Josh: Yeah, I think, I think I've been through times in my life where I've been trying to account for every dollar. I don't think it's the approach. My brother once said it to me, he's like, fucking, don't worry. He owed me $900. Don't worry. But he I think he still does. No, but he was saying to me like, you know, don't do that, just stop it. And I just remember it quite clearly. And it's not the right move if you're trying to count every dollar. Oh, you owe me this, you owe me that. I mean, it's now like much easier to get paid back stuff in the moment. And I think so with like Kaching or like the PayID stuff.

21:24

Tommy: Do you prefer to be the one that pays and then gets the money back or be the one that transfers someone?

21:31

Josh: See, this is interesting because this is a way of being frugal without being a fuckwit. I would rather you pay and I'll pay you back because you will not not get paid back by me.

21:43

Tommy: Okay.

21:43

Josh: But then I'm not out of pocket thinking, is Josh going to pay me back? I reckon there'd be a high chance you'd forget just because, not because you're being an asshole. I reckon you just forget.

21:52

Tommy: Yeah.

21:52

Josh: And then you cover me the next 2 meals.

21:55

Tommy: Yeah.

21:56

Josh: Yeah.

21:56

Tommy: That's very true. What about you, 97, when you go out with the coconut crew? What's the deal with payments?

22:03

Mason: It's usually just split between us. So, like, I mean, you just tap. We go to a chicken place down the road, you just enter like the cost of each meal and you just tap. But we went—

22:13

Tommy: What does that mean? Sorry.

22:15

Mason: Well, you just— He enters like $12.

22:18

Josh: It's paid per person. You go up and you order. It's like a bistro dining. Yeah.

22:22

Mason: It's not like here's $60 and then we all split it. But last night I went out, uh, for dinner after the gym with Andre, and he picked up some stuff earlier in the week from the supermarket, so I just paid for his.

22:35

Josh: He has the virtue signal.

22:36

Tommy: Yeah, he's a baller. So much for the—

22:39

Mason: right, $12.

22:40

Tommy: So what, what, what did it include? Did you get a coleslaw?

22:44

Josh: No, he doesn't like coleslaw. Remember we bought the boys coleslaw and they fucking didn't eat it? Dill and Mr. 97.

22:51

Tommy: Rude. Ungrateful.

22:52

Mason: No, it was, it was like, um, lamb Uh, yeah, lamb and chicken, like gyros, with, um, all right, well, it's on the stick. I don't know what else you call it.

23:08

Tommy: Um, what did you call it? Gyros. It's perfect. Great. You're bringing a little bit of flair to Monday Show, aren't you? Huh? All of a sudden we're not so white, are we? It's a little bit of gyros. What else can you say?

23:22

Mason: Uh, that's about it. It was pretty much just like that, Greek salad, um, they're like seasoned, probably baked potatoes or something.

23:31

Tommy: Okay.

23:31

Mason: Um, and then pita breads.

23:33

Tommy: That does sound good.

23:34

Mason: Yeah, it was good.

23:35

Tommy: Uh, 3D Dill, how's the book going?

23:37

George: It's good, actually.

23:39

Tommy: Um, so, uh, August, because there's a, there's a date where people can actually buy the book.

23:46

Josh: Yeah, I've forgotten about that.

23:48

George: Yeah, it'll probably be August 7th. I think that's what I'm aiming for.

23:51

Tommy: Okay.

23:51

Josh: How long is that? It's a couple of weeks.

23:53

George: Yeah, it's almost done being rewritten though.

23:55

Tommy: Okay. Oh, that's good.

23:57

Josh: Rewritten? What do you mean?

23:58

George: It's like you do a first draught and that's your, that's your V1, and then doing selects now, bringing out the good, the good bits, cutting out what's redundant, repetitive, or I think rewriting is a bit rich.

24:10

Tommy: Yeah, but too much.

24:12

Josh: Like, I've scrapped the book, I'm rewriting it. Yeah, that's how— what I just heard.

24:15

Tommy: Yeah. Well, yeah, you're just doing version 2 of— from version 1.

24:20

George: Yeah, yeah, it's not rewriting every second draft.

24:23

Josh: It's a second draft. No problem. And he's a new— he's a new, um, author.

24:27

Tommy: Yeah, no, I get learning the ling.

24:29

George: Yeah.

24:29

Tommy: Um, the, the Gronk Squad, you can sign up on thedailytalkshow.com.

24:36

Josh: Yeah, Mum's done it. Mum's a part of the Gronk Squad.

24:39

Tommy: Uh, my mum hasn't.

24:42

Josh: Lynn, pull your head in.

24:42

Tommy: She's not listening, so let's not worry about it.

24:44

Josh: It's great. Yeah, gronk move not to, but she's a gronk. So, it's a problem that we have that people who haven't signed up.

24:51

Tommy: I'm not expecting anyone, like, I did a poll to give you an idea of what my family's like. Did a poll, have you visited the new website? I think that was the poll.

25:00

Josh: Oh, it was a poll on our Instagram.

25:02

Tommy: You can always rely on the Jansons to just say nah. Because the thing is that when you put up that poll, have you visited thedailytalkshow.com? It's sort of a prompter where if you like us, you'd go to thedailytalkshow.com just so you can give us some support. But a classic Janson trait is to take a lot of joy out of saying, nah, haven't looked at it and also not interested and I won't come on your show. And how many, how many people listen to your show? Because I don't think it's that many. Anyway, I had a great family breakfast on Saturday.

25:37

Josh: Yeah.

25:38

Tommy: Uh, anyway, what were we saying? Um, oh yeah, we're going to send our first Gronk Squad email. So if you sign— if you go to thedailytalkshow.com— yeah, I've been sussing it all out— you can sign up as a Gronk Squad member and we'll send our first email. Yeah, uh, during the week. Oh, I'm looking— sorry, on the weekend is when we'll do it.

25:58

Josh: Yeah, so, um, hit them, bit of weekend reading with a coffee.

26:01

Tommy: I've also— I put up, uh, over the weekend a video of you and I talking about being unfriended on Facebook. Did you watch it?

26:10

Josh: No, I haven't watched it, but I've watched it since we've done it. We look fucking so much younger.

26:17

Tommy: I can't tell, like, isn't it sad?

26:19

Josh: I think you, I think that was the last time you've worn a shirt.

26:24

Tommy: I was thinking about like, because I was wearing a blue shirt and it matches my eye colour quite nicely.

26:28

Josh: And a snapback hat.

26:29

Tommy: Yeah, it's backwards.

26:30

Josh: Yeah, don't ever wear it from it if you're going to wear them again.

26:33

Tommy: But it was a, it was a different look. Do you miss that look? Should we sort of—

26:37

Josh: do I miss it on you?

26:38

Tommy: On both? Okay.

26:39

Josh: Yeah, I mean, I've just got longer hair.

26:41

Tommy: I think you look very different.

26:43

Josh: Why do I look different?

26:45

Tommy: Don't you think that he looks different?

26:46

George: He's got longer hair, like you said.

26:48

Josh: Yeah, but I mean, I'm still fresh to death.

26:51

Tommy: I think you maybe look a little older.

26:54

Josh: I am a little older. It was a year ago.

26:55

Tommy: But like, as in 5 years older.

26:57

Josh: Yeah, I tell you what, podcasting this much with you, oh geez, age quick, bro.

27:02

Tommy: But the other thing we're doing is we're posting a heap more on the Instagram account.

27:06

Josh: Yeah, get across there if you haven't followed us, @thedailytalkshow on Insta.

27:10

Tommy: And also, we have been loving when you've been sharing, like if you've been listening or watching. So if you are, if you're in your car right now, if you're going for a walk Maybe you're like me this time last year and you're somewhere in Italy and you're just walking along some beautiful pathway in fucking Provence. I was gonna say Provence. What's Provence? What does it mean?

27:34

Josh: What's in a province?

27:36

Tommy: But what's Provence? Is Provence a place?

27:39

Josh: I think you're just saying it like a gronk.

27:41

Tommy: Provence?

27:42

Josh: You're saying province like a gronk. Provence. Anyway, I will give a shout out to one of our favourite gronks from up on the Gold Coast, Molly and her hubby Josh. Oh yes. In reference to EP 392. Uh, good work for advertising 131 444. Too many dropkicks in the world miss using triple zero. Molly's a cop, I will tell you that before I go on. For reference, triple zero is for anything big or small that is happening now or needs immediate attention, like this show. You can actually get a— you can actually get a ticket, so a fine, for calling triple zero for no reason. That and cars not moving out of the way for lights and sirens, vehicles, um Banes of my existence. I tell you what though, uh, my brother got a fine in the mail. Now this is just fucked, getting just— it's like, what's the fine for? So he was in a place called Campbellfield, which is way like— it's industrial estate, way out. And it's in this area where there's like no one's just walking around there unless you work in the building that's fucking there, and he parked up on the nature strip.

28:54

Tommy: Oh really?

28:55

Josh: And it was a fine for being on the nature strip. Like, it wasn't—

28:58

Tommy: you've got to be— there's got to be a neighbour that's pissed off at that point, don't you think?

29:02

Josh: Someone's—

29:02

Tommy: that's the only—

29:03

Josh: I wonder if they take a photo and then send it. Oh, so he reckons that either they just like patrol that area. I don't know if it was a cop or is it a ticket person. Molly, maybe can you do that if you saw a car doing that? Could you just take their number plate and send them a fine in the mail?

29:18

Tommy: I got— how about this for balls? I, uh, what are you laughing at?

29:24

George: No, it's just the way you led with—

29:25

Tommy: yeah, yes, uh, I, uh, I overtook a police bus, a 0.05 police bus on the freeway.

29:36

Josh: That's okay, that's okay.

29:37

Tommy: I was scared as fuck because it was next, because I decided to do it and they were going about 100, and so then I actually had to go like 105 to about 108 to overtake them in a 100 zone.

29:49

Josh: Yeah. Oh, you're a fuckwit. Why would you do that?

29:51

Tommy: Well, because haven't you— Tom Gleeson, the comedian, talks about a little salt and pepper, which is you can go about an extra 5k.

30:00

Josh: Yeah, you can't still probably at about 100. Yeah, I get it, I get it.

30:03

Tommy: So I was just adding a bit of salt and pepper.

30:05

Josh: I mean, I do a bit of salt and pepper just when there's no cops around.

30:09

Tommy: Yeah, well, so I thought, I wonder if a 0.05 bus would pull someone over.

30:15

Josh: No way.

30:16

Tommy: Okay, too much.

30:17

Josh: I think, how are they gonna siren? It'd be like maybe if they were in a side street and you were just blocked in for them. It couldn't— this is the thing, highway— not highway patrols, there's like a bunch of the undercover police cars, they just, you know, the sirens on the back dashboard, on the, on the parcel shelf or the front dashboard. They don't pull you over unless you're being a real fuckwit.

30:38

Tommy: Yeah. Talking about fuckwits, very quickly, 3D Dilbert guy. Let's leave it there. That's the Daily Talk Show. No, very, very seriously, quickly.

30:46

George: That was a good one.

30:46

Tommy: No, a guy in Marysville where you have been fucking died over the weekend. I'm guessing he was on a hike, got into a fight with his mates, walked off. And it got me thinking because I followed the storey from when he was missing.

31:04

Josh: And then I was thinking, last Friday he went missing.

31:06

Tommy: And I was thinking, you've been to Marysville, you've been to, um, all these different places. Is this a good warning now? Is it a little kick up the pants to be a little bit more responsible when it comes to your hikes?

31:19

George: 100%. I mean, it, it shows the extremes that a situation can go to. Like, the Otways thing worked out remarkably well considering the circumstances.

31:30

Tommy: Your dad texted you, didn't he? Yeah. What does he say?

31:32

Josh: He'd be pissed. I'd be pissed if Buddy did that.

31:34

George: Yeah, he was a bit—

31:35

Tommy: He'd be pissed.

31:36

Josh: You know what it is about Dill? To be honest, you, um, you didn't tell me that you were even going there. I thought it— I thought I didn't even know.

31:45

George: Really?

31:46

Josh: I want itineraries, I want ETAs. Yeah, GPS coordinates.

31:52

Mason: I just said we— I think Josh and I just got an ETA of Sunday.

31:55

Tommy: Yeah, he said, if I'm not there on Monday, then there's probably a problem. Oh geez, he's like, hahaha. But then he nearly fucking died from the whole thing.

32:05

Mason: What did you even want?

32:06

George: A sleeping bag?

32:06

Josh: I offered him a sleeping bag.

32:06

Mason: He's not saying, nah, nah, it's all good, I'll sleep.

32:10

Tommy: Do you regret that now?

32:11

George: No.

32:11

Tommy: Why?

32:12

George: Because I knew that I would be fine when Mason offered me a sleeping bag, and I was fine when I didn't have a sleeping bag.

32:20

Tommy: But do you think that your experience could have been a bit better if you were lost? Would a sleeping bag have served you?

32:27

Josh: Definitely, definitely.

32:29

Tommy: Maybe. But then, like, but think of me, it's like he's under a deposition or something, like, just fucking skirting around.

32:36

George: You know, you go camping And if it's— no, I'm hypothetically— okay, for people who go camping, they would know this. Like, you wake up in the morning and everything, especially when it gets cold at night, everything gets that condensation on it. I'm gonna— if I slept out in the middle of the forest in a sleeping bag, I'm gonna wake up with God knows what in my sleeping bag, and it's going to be damp.

32:57

Tommy: So you're saying— so you're saying that if you were stuck in a forest that and you needed to sleep and you had a sleeping bag, you wouldn't use it because of condensation?

33:10

George: No, if I had the sleeping bag, I would use it.

33:15

Tommy: And explain yourself.

33:16

Josh: I mean, you got a shit tent if it's got condensation inside. Yeah, like usually the tents have the outer layers a bit nice, like it's like the harder layer.

33:25

Tommy: I get condensation at my apartment.

33:27

Josh: Your nose gets condensation.

33:29

Tommy: Seriously. And the whistling sound anyway. What did you— what did your dad say?

33:33

George: My dad said— what did he say here? He said, I hope you learned something about being absolutely prepared. You shouldn't— you put yourself in a dangerous situation there. Enjoy and take in as much as you can, but don't ever put yourself at risk like that again. Which is fair.

33:47

Tommy: AKA, don't be a fuckwit.

33:49

Mason: Yeah, yeah.

33:50

George: And I completely understand it. And I did learn the lesson in being more prepared about going out.

33:56

Tommy: So would you in the future Ego aside, would you bring a sleeping bag?

34:05

George: It would depend where I'm going.

34:06

Josh: Aren't you going this weekend somewhere?

34:08

George: Yep.

34:09

Josh: And you're gonna take a sleeping bag?

34:10

George: Nope.

34:10

Josh: Why?

34:11

George: Because it has bedding.

34:12

Josh: Oh, you're going— is that full bedding?

34:13

Tommy: It's an Airbnb situation.

34:15

Josh: He's living large.

34:16

George: If I was intentionally camping out in the middle of the woods, I would bring like— and obviously in a tent situation, I would pack a sleeping bag. But the place when I was going to the outways, it was in a pod that had a mattress but didn't necessarily have bed and linen.

34:32

Josh: But the jail cell, it was pretty much a jail cell. I think we should all go camping, do an episode, the podcast around a fire.

34:41

Tommy: So yeah, I'd love a fire. Well, uh, Blaj, uh, the Web Gronkh, he, he went camping and it was like the worst. You remember that night that was really, really bad, the crazy lightning? It was actually the Mr. 97's date night.

34:58

Josh: Did he get hit by lightning?

34:59

Tommy: No, no, it's all fine.

35:00

Josh: What happened?

35:01

Tommy: No, it was just they got— they ended up coming back early.

35:03

Josh: Oh, they left early?

35:04

Tommy: Yeah.

35:05

Josh: Jesus.

35:06

Tommy: It wasn't actually a date, he was just fucking going out.

35:08

Josh: So I totally ignored it, you big girl.

35:12

Tommy: Why am I— there's nothing wrong with being a girl.

35:13

Josh: I know, I'm just calling you a big girl.

35:16

Tommy: It's a daily talk show. We'll see you tomorrow, everyone. See you guys.

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