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Tech Troubles & Being Grateful

We're all remote! We chat about our tech troubles, a few club updates, Mr. 97's customer support experience, a new idea for the adventure club, and Josh's Post Office blow up.

Show Notes

–Remote conferencing and technology
–A gratitude circle
–A Club update
–Mr. 97's customer support experience
–A new idea for the adventure club
–Going to the Post Office
–Who we'd love to have on

At a glance

From this episode’s transcript.

  • –Technology and remote work were causing real frustration for the hosts even as they tried to look 'well-equipped'; they describe themselves as 'real gronks' when it comes to tech.
  • –The team used a gratitude circle format to check in on family, work-from-home arrangements, and childcare changes during early pandemic restrictions.
  • –Panic-buying and pantry stocking (beans, tomatoes, flour) became a recurring bit, reflecting real anxieties about potential lockdown.
  • –Seth Godin's Instagram Live was cited as inspiration for turning crisis downtime into learning and contribution rather than just consuming news/Netflix.
  • –The hosts brainstormed expanding their guest list to include doctors, authors, isolated entrepreneurs, and people with international perspectives in response to the pandemic.

Questions this episode answers

What was The Daily Talk Show discussing during the early days of the COVID-19 lockdown in Australia?

In episode 640 (17 March 2020), hosts Josh and Tommy discussed remote work tech troubles, held a gratitude circle, talked about panic-buying pantry staples, shared a customer service anecdote, and brainstormed future podcast guests suited to pandemic times, including doctors and authors.

What book were The Daily Talk Show's book club reading in March 2020?

The book club was reading 'Tiny Habits' that month, with a Zoom session held over the weekend and another planned for the end of the month.

What apocalypse-prep book does Josh mention listening to during early COVID?

Josh mentions listening to 'Emergency' by Neil Strauss, a book about preparing for disasters, terrorist attacks, economic collapse and more, which influenced his pantry-stocking anxiety.

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Episode TranscriptShow
0:03

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 640.

0:07

Tommy: What is happening, guys? What is going on?

0:10

Josh: Well, it's been a lot of— it's a big tech day. Big tech day.

0:14

Tommy: Big tech day. I mean, does tech days get you excited or does tech days get you depressed?

0:20

Josh: I mean, is that you playing our live stream?

0:23

Tommy: Yeah, bro. I need to watch myself back. I can't help it. I just wanted to say it's been handy because I'm looking at the comments and we're trying to make Mr. 97 redundant.

0:33

Josh: Yeah. I mean, I— one thing that I've noticed about myself is just how aggro I can get when it comes to technology and just trying to get it to work.

0:45

Tommy: You know what I think it is? I think it's actually like the feelings that are cemented when, when you're young. Like, I remember just like getting the frustration, that feeling if someone around me couldn't do something tech-related. And so I get you, I feel you, but it doesn't help that you have consumed your body weight in sugar.

1:06

Josh: Well, I haven't actually had it, to be clear. What I've had today, I've had 2 Tim Tams. Yeah, not great, but that was only in the last hour. For breakfast, I cooked Wave Those Rancheros, which was a like black beans with like a nice tomatoey base, Mexican sort of seasoning.

1:27

Tommy: I will pay it. I saw that and it looks phenomenal.

1:30

Josh: It looks delicious.

1:32

Tommy: It looks like something out of one of those sort of dingy Mexican joints in California that you go to, but they're the absolute bee's knees. So no, I do pay that. But anyway, enough about your food diary. Resetting. We are all now remote. Yesterday it was semi-remote and now we're 100% remote.

1:55

Josh: Video conference calls or conference calls in general, I feel like the technology is amazing, but any time that you and I have been on a call that's involving a big corporate, they've always struggled to get it to work.

2:13

Tommy: Yeah, I was at the, the shop today, the camera shop, and the dude there said everyone has come in for live streaming equipment in the last day or two. But I, I said good luck to them because I feel like I'm around some well-equipped individuals when it comes to technology.

2:37

Josh: We thought that, didn't we?

2:38

Tommy: Live streaming. But if you somehow found yourself on that live stream before, Yeah, it was. No, but I think technology is still quite hard. Like, this stuff is still not straightforward, not gronk-proof, as we've encountered. We are real gronks. When you start thinking you're a professional, it just fucking really hits you in the dick.

3:05

Josh: How do you feel about us doing a bit of a gratitude circle?

3:08

Tommy: Oh yeah, because I want to then get to something pretty dark.

3:12

Josh: Okay, great.

3:13

Tommy: Really?

3:14

Josh: Then nothing's happening at the moment. I don't know what it could be. Uh, Sebs, you can start. What are you, what are you grateful for?

3:20

Mason: Um, I mean, probably, I mean, look, just on the technology thing, we do a lot of like switching and moving around of, uh, technology and jumping from, you know, Zoom to Skype to YouTube and everything, and everyone always usually comes onto the platform that we're doing it on. So I'm pretty grateful that everyone's keen to hang out and just try out whatever we're doing.

3:43

Tommy: Yeah, I appreciate that. I'm grateful for, uh, my wife working from home, uh, as of sort of today, which I feel like, um, that's why then once Amy's working at home, we can then keep Bodhi home, which is what I've wanted. I could— it wouldn't have been able to survive by myself. I know Shannon, I think you're looking after your little tacker by yourself. I know Shannon's on the live stream. But imagine him right now. Like, we're going to— it's interesting. It's a— I'm grateful for the time we're going to spend together closely over whatever the coming weeks are. Yeah, it's going to be different times. So I'm grateful for that.

4:26

Josh: What was the vibe like dropping Bodhi off at daycare?

4:30

Tommy: Less, a lot less kids were at daycare. So parents are probably already pulling their kids out if they can. And so I just had some banter with the teacher and we're just shooting the breeze, shooting the coronavirus breeze. But yeah, I don't know.

4:49

Josh: It's a— what was the teacher saying? Not much.

4:56

Tommy: Not much, really. I mean, not much other than just—

4:58

Josh: sounds like great banter.

5:00

Tommy: No, I think banter is a whole bunch of not much, and that's why it's great banter. If you walk away from banter and say, yeah, I really got something out of that, relook at the banter.

5:10

Josh: It's not good banter.

5:12

Tommy: It's not. Don't think you got good banter.

5:15

Mason: Shannon says she is by herself with a little menace. It's tricky keeping them at home.

5:22

Tommy: Yep.

5:23

Josh: Yep.

5:23

Tommy: Shannon, we've got to get you on the live stream at some point.

5:26

Josh: Oh yeah, that'd be great fun.

5:27

Tommy: We'll cheque in to see what's happening on the ground in QLD.

5:33

Josh: Gratitude from me.

5:35

Tommy: I'm grateful that Tim Tams were in stock when you were at the shopping center.

5:43

Josh: I didn't actually get it. That was Brayden that got the Tim Tams. I'm grateful for the fact that like I've got somewhere to sleep and that, you know, like Bri and I can support each other. Like we can, when I'm feeling like shit, she can give me a, whatever that was, Advil. What does Advil even do?

6:07

Tommy: It's just a painkiller, like some kind of painkiller.

6:11

Josh: I nearly did and I feel like we could get around this given that it's the sort of the, the way the world is at the moment, how do you feel about locking in a specific day where we all have a drink on the live stream? Because I nearly, I nearly got a red, red wine. What do you think, Sev?

6:34

Mason: Yeah, sure. I mean, I just got to dial in what I'm drinking.

6:38

Tommy: What do you know? I can— I've got a bit of white, I've got a bit of red.

6:41

Mason: Is it going to be a wine?

6:43

Tommy: I don't know, mate.

6:44

Josh: It could be anything. Have you still got all that vodka?

6:47

Mason: Yeah, we got heaps of vodka. Yeah, it doesn't taste that great though.

6:51

Tommy: I, uh, I think we just hold off for another 5 days and maybe it's like a weekend thing. Maybe we— because I was thinking about the weekend, we could probably—

7:02

Josh: we could do the weekend. Yes, like not pre-record.

7:04

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, we could record on like a Sunday night and have a glass of red or whatever you want to drink because I was just one like keeping your immune system rigid for the next sort of week, and alcohol is a bit of an immune shitter.

7:20

Mason: Olivia says high schools are still open at this point and she's got 3 assessments this week. At least she'll be free after that though.

7:28

Josh: Oh, Liv, mate, I reckon you can not worry about those assessments.

7:32

Tommy: I reckon they'll forgive you, mate.

7:34

Josh: You'll be fine.

7:36

Tommy: Now, can I get to my doom and gloom?

7:38

Josh: Yeah, sure.

7:39

Tommy: I'm just, um, this is a formal press release for the Adventure Club. It's tough times for the Adventure Club based on a lot of people sort of quarantining and being kept indoors. So it's a lot of, you know, a lot of looking at potential adventures, but there's not much on the horizon in terms of congregating and getting together to get out and about, if you know what I mean.

8:08

Josh: Yeah. And off the back of that, good news for the book club. Yeah.

8:13

Tommy: Yeah. Look, good time for the book club. Solid sort of foundations for reading and also for life hacking. You know, there's probably a bunch of sort of life hacks around the house that you could dial in and—

8:28

Josh: how to eat your neighbour's organs. Life hack.

8:32

Mason: How to prepare.

8:33

Josh: Yeah.

8:35

Tommy: How to steal your brother's rations.

8:39

Josh: Yeah. Yeah. Well, yes. So Tiny Habits is the book that we're doing this month. So on Saturday we had a great turnout on Zoom and we'll do the same at the end of the month as well.

8:55

Tommy: Yeah. So yeah, onwards and upwards for you boys. Back to the drawing board for this old Old goose.

9:02

Josh: Can we talk? We don't have to mention business names, but Seb, you've been dealing with customer service of a business. Can you, can you explain the sort of things that are going on in the customer service departments around the world?

9:19

Tommy: I think also you need to set it up that we were engaging in this service before the the crisis, before the pandemic was— before that word was used for this thing.

9:33

Mason: Yeah, I mean, yeah, we were using a service and I mean, I had pretty bad support. I had a pretty bad support experience with them just in terms of like how long they were taking to reply and all that sort of stuff. Look, it was probably a time zone thing, to be fair, but it was 24 to 48 hours per reply. And so it was just like you get one thing and then wait another couple of days or whatever, and then they reply. Anyway, so I raised it with them that I wasn't happy with it, and they locked me in on a call with their, the support representative's manager. And so I had a chat to him, and he was fuming that it was 24 to 48 hours between replies. And so I had a chat with him and it wasn't serious. It was like, yeah, like, it's just like I was hoping for a bit better response time and all this. And anyway, so I got off the call, I got my issue resolved.

10:35

Josh: And what was he saying?

10:36

Tommy: Was there—

10:36

Josh: because the guys from overseas, I feel like— was it US? Was he from the US?

10:41

Mason: Yeah, he was from the US.

10:43

Josh: And so the thing about— I feel like when you're chatting to someone, there is a novelty factor. Was he asking about Australia?

10:51

Mason: No, not really. So Shannon's asking, can we have a little context as to which industry or service? No, won't give it away. It's technical related to do with telco related.

11:04

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

11:09

Mason: And so he was, he was fuming and I can't remember the word that he used, but He really wasn't happy with him, his support representative, his employee. And so I got back on messages with the employee and she said that she needs to improve because she just about got fired after the support request.

11:37

Tommy: Yeah, but it was, it was, can you give me some feedback? Because last time I almost got fired.

11:45

Josh: Exactly. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's a bit awkward when you go to, especially if you go to a restaurant or whatever or any sort of shop and you see the boss being rude to the employee. And this was like the next level because they said what, there would be consequences or something along—

12:03

Mason: Yeah. I can't remember what they said with R, I think the word, but—

12:06

Josh: Repercussions.

12:06

Mason: Yeah, something like that.

12:08

Tommy: Reprimanded.

12:09

Mason: Reprimanded. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They'll be reprimanded. There we go.

12:12

Josh: Lots of R words. But yeah, no, it was full on.

12:15

Mason: And he was saying that to me. So, like, you can just— and there was, like, aggression in that. And so I'm just like, oh, that poor employee.

12:23

Josh: Just—

12:24

Mason: and anyway, so then they messaged me and, yeah, she was sorry about it and trying to know what to do. She wanted to figure out what she could do to try and improve. And then we just had a bit of corona banter.

12:36

Josh: That's nice. Hey, TJ, I was thinking if you can't do the Adventure Club, I propose another idea.

12:44

Tommy: The virtual reality club?

12:47

Josh: No, not too far off. You know, you're a personal trainer. What about if you were to do virtual sessions with people? Yeah, once a week. A few of these pop up.

13:00

Mason: The Kick Girls.

13:01

Tommy: Yeah, you know, like I'll just slot in there alongside Sam Wood, Kick Girls.

13:07

Josh: What's Sam Wood's one called?

13:09

Tommy: 28.

13:10

Josh: Yeah, great.

13:11

Tommy: By Sam Wood.

13:12

Josh: You could just call it 5 Days.

13:15

Tommy: It's like the daily, the daily talk show.

13:19

Josh: Well, 28 days, I mean, we don't know how long we've got. 28 days sounds like a lot, you know.

13:24

Tommy: Yeah, yeah.

13:25

Josh: Have you guys noticed that, um, where do you start getting lax? Like, for instance, like my eating. So with everything that's happening I'm sort of like vanity, all these things. I know I shaved my neck. No one's mentioned it.

13:41

Mason: Oh, you mentioned my haircut either.

13:43

Josh: I mentioned it 3 days ago when it happened.

13:46

Tommy: Can you just guys mention that I'm looking great?

13:48

Josh: Yeah, you look great too.

13:49

Tommy: My eyes look a bit fucking tired, to be honest. I feel like shit. We can run a Zumba class, Lara says.

13:56

Josh: Oh yeah, that'd be great.

13:58

Tommy: I was thinking about, I was thinking about I mean, there's a lot of people getting their TikTok dialled in.

14:03

Josh: Oh, really? What sort of TikTok? What's the TikTok content?

14:06

Tommy: I mean, even Steph Clare-Smith's TikToking.

14:09

Josh: Oh, yeah.

14:09

Tommy: You know what's funny? Lewis Spears, he's a comedian. He's been on our show. Spearhead Sundays is his podcast. He pointed out something really funny, and it was like, and it's funny when you notice what he's pointed out, but never sort of, but you felt inside. Like, oh yeah, but then it connects when he says the thing. And he said, what's with fucking Instagram influencer chicks posting other people's TikToks? And I, and I saw somebody doing it, an influencer posting a shitload of TikToks, and I, and I was like, what the fuck are you doing? But then he really made a point about it. And so I was, yeah, it's interesting when those things catch on. Um, My brother just messaged me and he said, I've got flu symptoms. And I haven't spoken to my bro since the weekend. And he said, should I get tested?

15:08

Josh: Why is he asking you?

15:09

Tommy: I don't know, mate. In all seriousness, I was flat out on the banter over the weekend and Yeah, I don't know. We're just connecting, my bros. We love each other.

15:23

Josh: Scooter Derek was asking me, we were talking on the phone this morning and he was talking about, you know, do you feel a responsibility? You're almost media now. You got to be careful with what you say.

15:34

Tommy: What is that flagging something that we said?

15:37

Josh: No, no, I think he was just saying, no, he was more like, oh yeah, do you feel like the pressure, like you need to? Absolutely not. We're just a couple of gronks. So definitely pass on what Shannon Tilney says, which is, I don't know whether it's where it's come from inside the office of the PM. Apparently Everything in Australia is going to be in lockdown tomorrow. Complete speculation, but just got a message about it. Wild if true.

15:57

Tommy: Shannon, who, who sent it to you? Context, what industry?

16:01

Josh: Yeah, telco.

16:03

Mason: She's also asking JJ, can she have some beans?

16:05

Josh: Absolutely not. Well, if it's lockdown tomorrow, I haven't actually got the beans yet. Got the tomato, organic tomatoes, tin tomatoes, a lot of tin tomatoes, which apparently Sebs, you've told me that I've paid too much.

16:19

Mason: Yeah, well, I mean, organic increases the price, but you can get tins for like things like 70 cents.

16:26

Tommy: Do you know how much we paid for flour? Flour is like the bottom end, you know, 99 cents.

16:34

Josh: What are you going to make with flour? Pasta?

16:38

Tommy: Mate, it is a staple ingredient. You can make so many things.

16:42

Josh: Name 3 things.

16:43

Tommy: You could marinate meat by dusting it with flour and then putting into some sort of marinade. You could use, use it for schnitzel if you have some chicken. You can make cookies, which my wife just did, and they were fucking awesome.

16:56

Josh: So you've made cookies?

16:59

Tommy: Yeah.

17:00

Josh: Have you made anything?

17:01

Tommy: You can make dough, you know, if you wanted to make golden syrup dumplings.

17:05

Josh: But I think the schnitzel example is pretty funny because you need chicken at that point. It's like you're not going to starve because your chicken's not crumbed.

17:13

Tommy: Shannon said sources from inside the Prime Minister's office.

17:18

Josh: I'm not going to say names.

17:21

Mason: I like this inside information.

17:22

Josh: Make pasta with flour, says Lara. Andrew says, hi everybody, how are you? Andrew, mate, we're really good. Well, are you?

17:30

Tommy: How do you feel? Like, what's your health at this moment?

17:34

Josh: I know I actually How do I feel? If I'm being honest with myself, I'm— my back is fucking annoying me. I'm very sore. I feel like I get very wired when it comes to like, I need to solve problems. And so if it's not trying to work out all the food stuff and going to the like, bring in— I had a very low-level argument So the argument was around— she's very good when it comes to her work, right? Whereas I'm at this stage, I'm like doomsday, everything's up in the air, we don't know what's going on.

18:13

Tommy: And so you've done two things that you've meant to do for me and you haven't done them.

18:18

Josh: Yeah. And so we've been working on this stuff. And so, but anyway, so my— the cans of food had arrived at the PO box and all the first one was we got a a ding on the doorbell or whatever, and it was the courier. And he said, your package is here. You don't have to sign for it. I'll just leave it out. Just put it in the foyer. And so then I was cooking the huevos rancheros at the time, and I was like, I've got to get shoes on. Bree said, I can get it. And then she took like a few minutes before she did stuff, and I was just like getting a bit wired up where I'm like, like someone might take it. We need to, like, you need to go downstairs and get it. Like, I would have already got my shoes on and be down there. Like, I hope it's still there. So there was that. And then when I got the notification from the PO box that my stuff had arrived, I was like, great, I'm going there now. There's going to be a couple of boxes. Bree, do you mind coming with me? And she's like, I've got to, I'm working for the next few hours, but I will be able to do it after that. I was like, no, no, no, it's got to be now. We need to do it now. And so I said, um, okay, I'll, um, I'll just go then. And then you know what I'm like with admin, right? Like, I'm not, I'm not great with admin. And anyway, in that moment before I left, she said, oh, by the way, can you return this Iconic package for me? And, um, we don't have— we didn't print a label, so you're just gonna have to get them to print a label. And I was just like, I couldn't believe it. I'm like, here we are, we're all gonna die, everything's ending.

19:57

Tommy: All right, mate.

19:58

Josh: Bree wants to make sure that her iconic package is set. Like, returns aren't gonna matter when money doesn't matter. When I'm selling beans for bread, like, it's not gonna matter. And so anyway, I was like, I called 97 and I said, says, can you print a label for me because I just don't want to, you know, because I ended up going on my own. And then as I was driving, I was calling Seb. I said, I just don't want to take up time at the post office. And Seb's like, oh, what size is it? I'm like, you know what? This conversation is too hard as well. I'll just do it at the post office. And so I went to the post office. No one else was there. I had face masks, they had gloves. They were very lovely. Really? And yeah, it was all good. And you know how easy it was? I just like, they scanned a barcode and they printed it. Like, it didn't take much. I was expecting to have to forward a PDF.

20:56

Tommy: So you got your beans?

20:57

Josh: No, I don't have my beans yet. So I had one, I did a bean test this morning, which was pre-bought beans. But I'm not calling out Aldo Paso, but whatever the fuck they're called, but they have a black bean product which I believe they're just pushing kidney beans in there. They weren't black though, they were dark red. They weren't black, right? You can't—

21:22

Tommy: they would not be putting kidney beans into a black bean.

21:26

Josh: Well, that is— and so anyway, I did, so I made, so I made this, uh, yeah, huevos rancheros and that and that was all good. But yeah, at the moment, the tomato stuff, I got, um, a big bottle, uh, where I can ask 2 and a bit liters.

21:42

Tommy: We didn't ask, but are you now just on to chatting about your hydration?

21:47

Josh: Well, yeah, well, if we're talking about inflammation and stuff, you're either a gym junkie or you've, you've, you're, um, you're prepping for the World Twin. Uh, so Liv says, uh, the first episode I've watched, let's listen to, since starting term 1. Sorry, gronks, but year 12 priority. Now we get it, Liv.

22:06

Tommy: And then for 2 years we'll be still here, still here.

22:09

Josh: And Shannon says, JJ, I'm about to be signed off for my Pilates course. We should do an online Pilates session for your back, for your core, which will in turn help you back. Free live Pilates via Zoom. I would love that. I mean, the thing is, I'm very lucky with the gronks that we have Goldie Guts. She came into our studio and did a whole session. She gave me this foam wedge to put under my foot. I gotta do, you know, these exercises.

22:40

Tommy: He was gesturing his arms that made him look like he was just sort of expanding on a zombie.

22:45

Josh: Yeah, sort of expanding, that sort of stuff.

22:47

Tommy: That's good.

22:48

Mason: So how's that going?

22:51

Josh: Uh, one step at a time.

22:53

Tommy: Not dialled in yet. Hey, I've been noticing Facebook ads still running on Facebook, which I— for some businesses, which I thought was kind of interesting.

23:03

Josh: You don't think they should be advertising?

23:05

Tommy: No, no, nothing against advertising events that were still running, that weren't running because they've been cancelled, that are still being pushed to buy tickets. I was like, is it my duty? Do I have to?

23:17

Josh: No, I didn't say anything to comment.

23:18

Tommy: Didn't comment.

23:20

Josh: My black beans are arriving, by the way, tomorrow. I just got a notification.

23:22

Tommy: Oh my God. Sorry. My iPhone 11. Where's that? What's happening with that? Do you think they'll get to me?

23:30

Josh: Where is it?

23:31

Tommy: I don't know. I don't know.

23:32

Josh: Is this like your fucking iPhone last time? You waited 2 months for that thing.

23:38

Tommy: You know, the fucking worst thing is that I'm downgrading my plan, which is cheaper and better than my previous one. But I'm still going to be— so they don't do it until you get your new device. And so I'll be on some dumb plan if they can't give me this phone. Absolute criminals.

23:54

Josh: Don't you reckon? Yeah, it's not ideal, but let's not call anyone a criminal. I thought it could be interesting to see what sort of bargains are on OzBargain at the moment.

24:03

Mason: Yeah.

24:04

Josh: Given the—

24:05

Mason: your black beans look legit, by the way. I was just on Woolies and Coles.

24:10

Josh: You've looked at the ones that I've got?

24:11

Mason: Were they just tinned black beans? Yeah, one special.

24:15

Josh: So they're EBO organic beans.

24:18

Tommy: JJ, yes, you know that we would sort of have these pushed to our phone every day if Mason got his shit together for the Life Hack Club. Just look at him.

24:28

Mason: Great little life hack. Guzmani Gomez, free delivery, Deliveroo.

24:32

Tommy: Yeah, until we're told to not be open.

24:38

Josh: I mean, so the thing is, like Shannon saying that stuff around like, oh, we'll all be in lockdown. All of a sudden I do feel a bit sick. No, I start to think like, oh fuck, like we need this thing or that thing. Should we do one last run? Like, I can see how it can create a bit of panic.

24:57

Mason: Peanut butter's half price.

24:59

Tommy: George and I, George Dodge and I were talking today. And we just said, I said to him, like, it's one of those moments, like, you, when you're stoned, you can sort of freak out about shit that's not really happening. And one of those things is like feeling like you're in a dream. And I've felt that many times when I was stoned. I'm like, this isn't real, bro. And then, uh, you could, you, I see how you could get to that place quite easily.

25:29

Josh: Me personally?

25:30

Tommy: No, no, no. As in just how people could. In a time like this where you just have— you stopped mid-sentence and it's like surreal as fuck.

25:40

Josh: Have you seen what the US is stocking up on?

25:44

Tommy: Oh, what have they got? Guns, guns.

25:46

Josh: Yeah, a lot of guns.

25:47

Tommy: Forward fold, bro.

25:49

Josh: Well, I guess like part of it is it's like, okay, fuck. The rationale is if my neighbour has a gun, I need a gun. Yes, that's right.

25:59

Tommy: You don't kill thy neighbor. It's in the Bible.

26:02

Josh: But if you, I don't know. So the, the Bree and I got like, we've gotten very aligned, but it was the last few days. It's like I would consider it similar to travelling when you travel. Like I walked off on Bree in London once. It's just the time. What?

26:25

Tommy: I don't know.

26:25

Josh: She was being an asshole about something and I was probably being an asshole.

26:30

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, I was just going to speak for Bree saying you're being an asshole.

26:33

Josh: Yeah, no, we're both being assholes. And so, um, uh, yeah, no, but the interesting thing is around media consumption, especially with, um, the way I listen to my audiobooks and podcasts.

26:47

Tommy: Uh, so, and, and so you're listening to some dark shit or whatever, you know, whatever it be, and then that means Bree's listening to it too.

26:55

Josh: Well, so that's the thing. So what, what she said last night was like, can we not listen to anything that's coronavirus related, you know, about the coronavirus.

27:05

Tommy: And what did you say?

27:07

Josh: I said, sure, that's fine. And so, um, the— but the book that I put on, she believed was still related to coronavirus.

27:17

Tommy: What was it? Um, What to Do When All Goes Pear-Shaped, or—

27:21

Josh: yeah, it's called Emergency by Neil Strauss, and it's, um, terrorist attacks, natural disasters, domestic crackdowns, economic collapse, Riots, wars, disease, starvation. What can you do to prepare when it all hits the fan? You can learn to self-sufficient and survive outside the system. I've started to look at the world through an apocalypse eye.

27:43

Tommy: So, and so anyway, this was, you know what, that was at a time that there was nothing going on. He wrote that damn book.

27:49

Josh: Yeah. And so, I mean, there was still shit happening.

27:51

Tommy: I mean, we thought it was a natural thing.

27:55

Josh: Did we? We didn't think it was going to be just— we thought it was going to be, uh, someone nuking someone else. Like, we didn't—

28:02

Tommy: I never thought that. I never thought that was going to happen.

28:04

Josh: I mean, what, you didn't think we're going to get nuked?

28:07

Tommy: I never thought there'd be nuclear— like, not a war as we know it.

28:11

Josh: Like, what did you think was going to happen?

28:14

Tommy: I mean, nothing saying that you're gonna— no, nothing in that relation. Like, I hadn't considered something of like this happening, but that's just privilege of living in a country like this of never having to worry about that stuff.

28:29

Josh: I love a good headline.

28:31

Tommy: Let me guess, it's, uh, parents, uh, our parents were called up for the war and we're being called up to sit on the couch.

28:37

Josh: That's a meme.

28:39

Tommy: Oh yeah.

28:41

Josh: Uh, oh no, fucking ended up on news.com.au because I thought you must have been there. Um, no, the, um, headline that got my attention. Um, it would— this is— it wasn't the actual headline, but it was sort of what they were leading with. Um, some experts say the, uh, global airline— most airlines will be bankrupt by May.

29:03

Tommy: I've used it 3 times today.

29:04

Josh: It's a good one, isn't it? Good headline.

29:07

Tommy: It's a great one because it just makes you think, then, then what? How we— how, how are we getting to LA?

29:14

Josh: Yeah, I mean, like, we did ask Virgin Australia if we could, you know, if they could sponsor us when we went to LA. Maybe that's sort of, maybe it's the time.

29:23

Mason: It's back on the cards.

29:25

Josh: Yeah, just say, hey guys, you fucked up, but I'm happy to take your offer.

29:28

Tommy: It'll be a bailout though. It'll be some kind of government bailout. Like, I can imagine. It's gonna look like, yeah, just so much debt. So like, they're just printing more money to give to these fucking big businesses.

29:46

Josh: So who should we— if we wrote a list of the time and service, keep bringing up Trello or something so you can keep track of this, please. Sure. If we were to create a list of the types of guests that we should have on the show, what sort of categories of people should we have on?

30:01

Tommy: First thought, people like a doctor, someone much smarter than us, someone who understands what's happening at the moment. Yeah, I would like someone who is— I mean, I'm just going real dark. I was just going to say, I think there's a lot of entrepreneurs, like a lot of people in LA. We had a list of people that we didn't see when we were there that I think we can start having on. Lots of authors, lots of people who have spent time secluded in, in Isolation. Isolation, but not even— it's, yeah, I guess it's on their own, self-inflicted. Or people have written something and thought a lot about stuff. I was watching Guru, our Guru Seth Godin, today. He was doing a live feed on Insta.

30:50

Josh: What was he saying?

30:51

Tommy: He's just talking about what's happening. It's a hard time and it's not going to get easier anytime soon. That he thinks it's an opportunity for people to learn to not just sit and watch Netflix, not just consume the headlines and not worry about the things that we can't control and spend time on learning and contributing to the world, which for us, I think that's the podcast showing up daily when this shit's going on. I think we got that dialled in, but for, you know, it's, it's, um, learning about something. It's like doing a course. Lynda.com. It's, you know, listening, listening to someone teach you something.

31:37

Josh: Louis Spears says that we should get Patient Zero.

31:40

Tommy: Hey, bro, we're just talking about you. I was just talking about how you noticed all the influencers on TikTok post— sorry, on Instagram posting TikToks. And I thought that was funny because I also noticed it.

31:52

Josh: Who is Patient Zero?

31:54

Tommy: Patient Zero, isn't it? I know, isn't he dead?

31:58

Josh: Well, yeah, you'd be patient.

31:59

Tommy: Well, the doctor is the bat.

32:02

Josh: No, well, yeah, and in fact, we get Lewis Spears on this show. Yeah, that'd be fun. Yeah, it would be good to, um, yeah, I think there's a lot of opportunity to have heaps of different types of guests, not even sort of the classic, like, the infectious disease peeps and all, like, that's all good. And obviously like the news covering a lot of all that sort of shit.

32:24

Tommy: Second thought is I think there's something in just touching in with people around the globe.

32:33

Josh: Lewis says get patient zero's corpse. You know, someone who works at a morgue would be interesting.

32:41

Tommy: Oh my God, mate. Speaking to a guy today who's making a video, which it might not go ahead, for a pet cremation. Yes, which I thought was quite interesting.

32:53

Josh: Do you reckon that's a luxury, getting your pet cremated?

32:58

Tommy: I mean, my parents put our dog in a towel and put them— put him into the ground in the backyard.

33:04

Josh: Was it a beach towel?

33:06

Tommy: Yeah, it was. It was probably one of those freebies you got, you know.

33:11

Josh: Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, I'm actually feeling better. I like doing the show. Yeah, I feel like if we can get the— the thing is, annoyingly, this Zoom thing, even though it's not as sexy as what we're trying to do before, I just like that it works.

33:28

Tommy: I might make a little video about my setup. I was thinking about who's more dialled in, a little competition, little vlogs between the three of us, who's more dialled in.

33:40

Josh: Well, let's look at how it serves. Has a huge amount of plants. Can you control the, the, your light, Seb?

33:48

Mason: No, because it's, it's actually just here and it's not plugged in at the moment because I've, I haven't got my power board dialled in. I've only got 5 things. I've got 6 things to plug in.

33:58

Tommy: No, Seb, we can get you a light from the office.

34:01

Mason: No, no, no, I just, I just need a light. I just need to change the power board.

34:06

Tommy: No, I'm saying we get you a light because it's like we're doing nighttime sessions.

34:11

Mason: Oh yeah, it's a nightmare.

34:11

Tommy: We're doing, you know, 11 PM because we have patient zero.

34:15

Mason: Yeah, that's a good point.

34:18

Josh: Wonder how North Korea is going.

34:21

Tommy: I mean, they're locked down. They've all got sharp haircuts.

34:24

Josh: I wonder if anyone in North Korea has it.

34:28

Tommy: It's one thing I hadn't heard of. I haven't.

34:30

Josh: Yeah, but no one's been talking about North Korea lately.

34:33

Mason: North Korea, they say zero.

34:36

Tommy: Yeah.

34:37

Josh: Yeah. Yeah. Oh really? No one knows how many virus cases Bloomberg has. It says zero. Oh yeah. Did you read that, Seb?

34:44

Mason: I didn't read. I just read the title.

34:47

Josh: Yeah, it's gonna be an interesting time. It was interesting. Yeah, I mean, media consumption's fun. Breen, I said we're going to watch Portlandia tonight.

34:58

Tommy: Portlandia. I don't know what that is, bro.

34:59

Mason: I don't know what that is either.

35:00

Josh: It's a great Comedy TV show.

35:03

Tommy: Oh, that's nice. Yeah, escape, escape a little.

35:06

Mason: Yeah, there's actually, there's actually this great, um, I don't know, one of you would have, I think, must have followed them, but they're on Instagram and they're doing—

35:15

Tommy: that was Josh Danbilzerian, not me—

35:19

Mason: no, couples videos of what it's like, uh, during the coronavirus, like lockdown.

35:25

Josh: Oh yeah, that'd be fun. The, um, actually I did see one that was, um Yeah, Lara said it's North Korea, they're always locked down. Yeah, but I guess there's people coming in through China. Yeah, there was an interesting video where a bunch of Italians did videos to themselves. Did you see this?

35:45

Tommy: Watched it.

35:46

Josh: So from 10— so basically what they would have told themselves 10 days ago. And I feel like that was pretty A little bit bleak, maybe.

35:59

Tommy: Yeah, it's like, it's like right now, what is in 10 days? How— what are we talking? What is the message like? And it might be for you, Josh, you should have gone and got those extra black beans even when Ray told you not to.

36:14

Josh: Yeah, well, I feel like, to be honest, it's gonna be seasoning. I need to get Delishu to send me some seasoning. Yeah, I'm sure we could organise that because I'm sort of a little bit, um, A little bit low.

36:25

Tommy: I'm gonna call my bro.

36:26

Josh: Okay. Um, I mean, the other thing too, I brought it up with Seb's, but does anyone else just feel like they've all got coronavirus now? Yeah, I'm not going to bring it up because I don't want to make this all about me, but I'm like 70% sure my chest hurts. I'm like, I've got like a— it's almost like these burning sort of like as if I'd been coughing. I haven't been coughing that much, but it's a feeling like I've been coughing for ages. Shannon says, hope your brother is okay, Tommy. Shannon, I don't know, there's obviously the delay, but you've just heard about my situation, so I'm guessing that love heart was sort of for everyone. Um, but anyway, it is one of those fucked up things that you can't help but like, um, when you talk about coughing, you can't help but cough. And so, um, anyway, even the face thing, touching the face, like you just—

37:22

Mason: yeah.

37:22

Josh: Oh, I've gotten so good at it.

37:24

Mason: So conscious, really.

37:27

Josh: Did you see, um, Jayce Hawkins?

37:30

Mason: Oh yeah, the video of, um, The Killers singing Mr. Brightside.

37:33

Josh: Not only that, but there's also, um, what was the— what's the Gordon Ramsay? He did a great video. And the thing that everyone needs to keep in mind which I never do, it really cleaned the inside of his thumb. Not really, sort of just like, just really—

37:51

Tommy: oh yeah, yeah, I get it, I get it.

37:54

Josh: So Toe Thumb's been fucking— he doesn't know what's hitting him.

37:57

Tommy: Toe Thumb needs a bath, multiple baths.

38:01

Josh: Definitely. Um, wow, look at him go. Yeah, Gordon. Yeah, now he really gets into it. Yeah, he like does the back of it. But Bree's dad works in safety and he dropped off some hand sanitizer. No, it's like sanitizer, but they're in the, the, what's it called? Like you pull it away and it's like towelette type things like KFC towelettes, but in bulk.

38:30

Tommy: Great. Can you chop a boy out?

38:33

Josh: I can give you one.

38:34

Tommy: One.

38:37

Mason: Yeah.

38:37

Josh: All right, guys. Only if you've sort of been around me as well.

38:41

Tommy: My eyes are red.

38:42

Josh: Yeah, I think it's time to go. Thanks everyone. It's the Daily Talk Show. Sev, we're sending out those stickers.

38:50

Mason: Yep. Yeah, I've got all the labels printed and we're good to go.

38:55

Josh: Great. Okay, and you can still become a VIP Gronk. Go to thedailytalkshow.com/gronks. Actually don't care about Apple reviews anymore.

39:06

Tommy: All right, mate.

39:07

Josh: What's the point?

39:07

Tommy: If you feel like it, leave one.

39:10

Josh: Nice little legacy, little tombstone. All right, it's the Daily Talk Show. Hopefully this hasn't triggered you. If it has, you know, we're all just doing our best. I'll see you around. See you guys.

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