DJ Shergz, Dumplings and Dim Sims

Leon: The Daily Talk Show episode 304.

Tommy: We got DJ Shergs in the building.

Leon: Damn right you do.

Tommy: Is that the DJ name?

Leon: It is the DJ name, which was ironic, but now it's sort of taken its own turn.

Tommy: Yeah, it just came, it just came to me.

Josh: I felt it. Leon Shergren, you're joining us for Fat Fridays. Thanks for being here. You are the executive producer of a radio show in Australia, or in Melbourne specifically.

Tommy: Does it go out across Australia like later on?

Leon: No, I don't think it does actually. No, just Melbourne.

Tommy: It's also a podcast which is— it's a global show.

Leon: Correct.

Tommy: The EP of global show, but then again so is Mr. 97.

Josh: Yeah, correct. Producer. Well, EP, fuck. That went real upwind.

Leon: He's got an EP, he said. Yeah, I didn't even know that.

Tommy: That was a mistake, but now it's recorded so he has to be the EP.

Leon: We'll talk money after the show.

Josh: Leon, you and I work together. We've been you've been on the show before, all that sort of stuff.

Tommy: That was like within the 100, wasn't it? That was very—

Leon: it was just after 100.

Tommy: Yeah, you know who should know? The EP. If he is the EP, he'll know.

Josh: If you know right now, if you guess, guess it before you look, you get EP status. Yeah, it's close to 100K. Yeah, 100K.

Tommy: I already said it was within the 100. Well, I could have let him down a rabbit hole. In the wrong direction.

Josh: 1:30. 1:30. I think I was fucking overseas in 1:30.

Tommy: I'm pretty sure I said, I just told you that it was within 100.

Mason: Oh, within 100.

Tommy: I said it was within 100.

Josh: Mate, you fucked.

Leon: You've lost your top goal. I reckon it was 1:09 or something like that.

Josh: 1:01. No, no, 1:09.

Tommy: So just want to say quickly, your top, if you're listening, you can't see it obviously, it says Gnocchi.

Leon: But you might be, uh, mistaken that it says Gucci from the Gucci logo and font, but it says gnocchi.

Josh: I didn't actually— the funny thing, I knew you would not get it. No, I actually thought I was like, that was fancy. Well, gnocchi is not pop culture, is it? Which is more pop culture, Gucci?

Leon: Gucci?

Tommy: Or no, no, no, no, no, that top is more pop culture than Gucci because it's what the kids have done. 'Let's take the expensive shit and make it cheap and funny.' Tommy, can you guess where Leon used to work for? Oh yeah, I know, um, because you worked there with a friend that I knew. Chris Gordon Walker, was it?

Josh: Don't say full names.

Tommy: I want Chris. Shout out Chris. I know you'd love a shout out. You got a great wine business.

Leon: I had two jobs. I didn't just work there.

Josh: Yeah, which one?

Tommy: Uh, um, Chris went to Superdry. There was what, Levi's or the JJs?

Leon: Oh yeah, they had novelty— they were They were like novelty shirts central.

Tommy: Did they?

Josh: Were they big on the novelty shirts?

Leon: They were the ones that had always had— oh, they're actually still around, but I don't think they do novelty shirts anymore. They were the ones that had like—

Tommy: because they'll be sued if they rip off people.

Leon: Um, they were the ones that had FBI, like federal body inspector.

Tommy: Oh yeah, no, it's a bit, bit creepy now.

Leon: If found, return, you know, dot dot dot. Yeah, like it was the kind of place where every time when I was working, a middle-aged couple would come in and a guy would not believe it could be written on a shirt. It's like, oh Mary, have a look at this one.

Josh: You got—

Leon: you can't do that.

Josh: He's the same guy who's in Bali getting really excited on a scooter, just going along the beach. Yeah, like, oh, how much? Yeah, we can get our actual— they personalise them too. You can get your own name.

Tommy: He's the American that wears the NASA t-shirt. There are so many people that we all love NASA.

Josh: Oh, that's hipster cool.

Tommy: Is it?

Leon: I don't think they're wearing it ironically though.

Tommy: Yeah, that's what I gauge. I gauge that they're full big nerds, like rockets, spaceships.

Josh: I think it's— I thought I nearly got one. I feel like I need to learn more about space before I get one. Yeah, potentially. Nah.

Leon: Anyway, I also worked at VideoEasy. That was my other job.

Josh: Really?

Leon: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Josh: What sort of perks did you get working at VideoEasy?

Leon: Free rentals.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: I heard something interesting about Blockbuster recently. So at a time where their business was thriving, they made $800 million in a year based on late fees. And it was at a time when they were looking at potentially pivoting to streaming services. The board decided not to. Wasn't a great idea. Why would we remove our late fees? And they fucked it. They really—

Leon: they did. Yeah, I think they had like— Netflix approached one of them to have a deal. Did you know what happened before like streaming services, the, the mail-out service? Did you? I can imagine.

Josh: Yeah.

Leon: So before, so you'd have to know like a few days in advance what movie you want.

Josh: Yeah, it was really quick. The thing is that, uh, there was one in Australia called Quickflix.

Leon: Quickflix, that's the one.

Josh: And so that we didn't have Netflix, the mail-out services in Australia. They had Netflix in the US, and that's what it was. And Quickflix was the— was that version here. The thing was that I actually had them come after me. They sent me to a credit— like, what's that called?

Tommy: Like, uh, a company coming after me for money.

Josh: Yeah, had a debt collector come after me because they, they were saying there's no late fees, impossible to get late fees, right? Because when you're done with it, you return it. However, What they don't say is if you close your account and don't return the DVDs that you had mailed out to you, they will then instantly become a debt. Yeah, absolutely. So that's what happened. I like had forgotten. I was one of those subscriptions, loved a subscription, got like, oh, I can get 6 DVDs out at a time. It came from Perth. Like, that's how far the DVD—

Tommy: and it also came in the mail, which is the problem. Yeah, shit gets lost.

Josh: And it was a DVD. That's another—

Leon: like, DVDs were like $60.

Josh: Yeah, sure. Oh no, DVDs. Disney was 60— like, it wasn't actually that long ago, it would have been 2010.

Leon: But there was a point before you could buy DVDs where you could only just rent them.

Josh: Really?

Leon: I think it was such— they cost a lot. Yeah, videos used to cost a lot as well, like before, you know, you could buy them. The rental commodities.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Do you remember Disney? Actually, I remember, uh, Mum got Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs on DVD and she said that Disney before Who's it for? What's it for?

Tommy: Yeah, who was it for, Lynn? And what was it?

Josh: I don't know. The reason she bought it though was because she said Disney are only, uh, making this available on DVD every 20 years.

Leon: Yeah, they put them— so Disney has a thing called the Vault. Okay, to make their copies of their DVDs more, uh, you know, worth more money, they release them on video or DVD and then they take them off shelves for 5 to 6 years.

Josh: Yeah.

Leon: And then, you know, when it comes out, people rush out and buy them again.

Tommy: Yeah, and recently there was something that happened with that recently.

Leon: I think Disney's launching a streaming service, so all of them will be available on Disney Plus, I think it's called.

Tommy: Okay, yeah, I heard something about closing the vault. Yeah, that was this vault on all of the previous stuff. Ah, okay, all right. Um, uh, yeah, I don't know, uh, I feel strange. No, uh, you've met Mr. 97 for the first time.

Leon: Yes.

Tommy: First impressions of the young man?

Leon: Um, I see a lot of myself and him. He's an EP in the making. Yeah, and but very meek, I would say the word. Shy? Meek?

Josh: Meek?

Tommy: When I think of meek, I think like if my hand was soft, if someone— I think like you shake my hand, it'd be like this, it'd be like a dead fish.

Leon: I feel like that's me.

Tommy: No, no, that's my version of meek I would use.

Josh: Yeah, in sort of a more sort of like a fit, me slapping you in a face with a fish.

Leon: I feel like meek is like a shy, you know, reserved person. They're sort of observing and waiting for the right time.

Josh: 97, can you look up the word meek for us? How would you even spell it?

Leon: M-E-E-K. Meek.

Josh: Yeah, I feel like because you can spell it, you're in a better chance of us than us.

Leon: I think, look, he's a lovely, a lovely guy. Um, he's, you know, compared to you two, he's very quiet.

Tommy: No, true.

Mason: 97, it's a quiet, gentle, and easily imposed on.

Josh: Easily imposed. Yeah, baby. I'm sorry, since he's met us, he's tried wine, he's tried beer. Well, today, yeah, uh, Fat Fridays. Hey, can you get those fucking dumplings out of the plastic bag? It's giving me anxiety.

Tommy: No, hang on, steamed dumplings are fine because they're continuing to be steamed. This is not hot chips, Josh. Oh, it's not like the plastic bag hot chips?

Josh: Because that was the one, like, at KFC. I don't know if they still do it, but they would use plastic bags and the big— oh yeah, yeah, basically when the Jansons would go through the KFC and the Jansons had a night on the town. Yeah, Richie, Richard Janson would be like, get the fucking chips out of there! Like, just as a first thing.

Leon: You don't want a sweaty chip.

Josh: Absolutely not.

Tommy: You do not want a soggy chip. So today we've literally just gone to get dumplings because Mr. 97 has never had a dumpling.

Josh: Outrageous.

Tommy: How many dumplings would you have had?

Leon: You, you know what they look like? This is a weird— okay, yeah, cool. I don't know, you were saying before this, you had your intent on 100 dumplings.

Tommy: Yeah, I was, but then I got there.

Leon: Which is excessive.

Tommy: That's a lot. I realised that 100 is excessive, so we've gone for about 36.

Josh: Well, the thing is that Tommy will say these things without much thought, but he has to be careful what he says because I will hold him to account.

Tommy: If we went to like a dumpling restaurant in the city, you get like an 18 as like the minimum, right?

Mason: Yeah.

Tommy: Whereas this was like—

Leon: What do you think you do? I think you get 8 to 12 pieces.

Tommy: Nah, there's a place I go to. Yeah, there's one of those. Oh, there's one in Malvern, 18 pieces. Literally just get pork dumplings and that's it.

Josh: And that's a minimum?

Tommy: Well, yeah, so it's like, there's no— here you could get 6 or 12. I was like, oh, 9 or 12. I was like, no chance, I want 18.

Josh: Hi@thedailytalkshow.com, which one do you think that place is that has an 18 minimum?

Tommy: Uh, I know 100%, the one in Malvern, Malvern Road. Can't remember the name.

Leon: All right, it seems like a lot. What if you just went in by yourself? It seems a lot for one person.

Josh: Yeah, can you write that down?

Tommy: 11 bucks.

Josh: I'll cheque that out on the, the show. Do you want to go there?

Tommy: Do you want to prove me wrong?

Josh: No, I want to prove you wrong. And I think—

Tommy: but what if you do prove me wrong? Go there at least because they are great dumplings.

Leon: Now you mentioned the other day in the podcast Drumplings, which are amazing, which these are these dumplings that have like— there's meat pie dumplings, mac and cheese. Yeah, like they're good, they're modern day.

Tommy: But I didn't want to— like, I want his first time to be just your classic shitty joint.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And you get the dumplings.

Leon: So what did you get?

Tommy: So I got pan-fried dumplings. I got, um, sorry, pork, pork, and vegetarian steamed ones. I think he needs to try steamed to start with.

Leon: Yeah.

Tommy: Um, Mr. 97, can you come in? I, I actually give you my spot.

Josh: How's this?

Tommy: How much I want you to—

Josh: How does, uh, how does one eat a dumpling? I would— I just put the whole thing in my mouth.

Leon: Yeah, yeah.

Josh: Gotta be careful— Are you gonna start with? No, I think start with the steamed. Start with the pork, the one in the middle. Okay, here we go. So Mr. 97, he's just using chopsticks. Here we go. This— I'm not good with chopsticks so I'm not going to—

Leon: You know what, they're hard with chopsticks as well because they just fall apart.

Josh: We'll give him one more go with the chopstick.

Leon: Ah no, you're almost there! Oh quick again your mouth!

Josh: Describe it. Oh, I love that sound. No, talk now. I love when people talk and eat.

Mason: That was good.

Leon: That was the pork one?

Josh: Yeah, try the vegetarian one now.

Leon: Yeah, he doesn't know.

Josh: Try the veggie.

Tommy: Use his hand.

Mason: Nah, I got it.

Josh: You gotta eat all the— you can't— if you get two, you just have to eat them. Here we go, he's eating a vegetarian one. I'm just curious. That was quick. I don't even know if the filling hit your mouth before you were able to tell. Baby doesn't like veggies.

Leon: It's very weird when you say that.

Josh: He actually loves vegetables, don't you?

Tommy: Yeah, the pork one's good.

Leon: Now the shit's out of the way.

Josh: Why did we get any steam, to be honest?

Leon: Well, you don't put it in there.

Mason: Is that soy sauce or is that the, um That's the vinegar one.

Josh: This is good. He's like, oh, vinegar!

Tommy: I was like, mate, it's not white vinegar.

Josh: Okay, it tastes like it. Oh, vinegar? What do you mean? Oh, you can't— anyway, it doesn't matter. All right, yeah, have one, have one, and then, and then I've got something else I want you to do for us. Yeah, is that okay? This is making great podcast audio material. The first one, yeah, it's the best.

Leon: So steamed pork—

Josh: steamed pork is better than even the— can we have one now, please? Um, very Very quickly, what I wanted to do, Mr. 97, uh, could you please do us a favor? And so when I said to Leon, I want to have you on the show, Leon, one of the main reasons was because it was going to conclude one of the biggest arcs that we've ever done on the show, which was the walkie-talkie arc.

Leon: You've forgotten the name, wasn't it CB Club?

Josh: Was it 3 Kilometer Club?

Leon: 3 Kilometer Club.

Josh: So the 3 Kilometer Club memory I said if you're in within 3 kilometres of where we do the show, yes, let us know because we want to give you a walkie-talkie and to test out to see how it works. Yeah, you live just down the road. Yes. Yep, I reckon probably 400 metres line of sight.

Tommy: Yeah, probably.

Leon: Let's not get into distance again because that was frustrating to listen to.

Tommy: That's why I want you to prove me wrong with the DumpLink thing because I proved him really wrong.

Josh: Yeah, because it was actually 42 2 metres from—

Leon: yeah, yeah, so yeah, probably 400.

Josh: 400 anyway. But we didn't get there because the walkie-talkie thing was a nightmare.

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: However, we have the walkie-talkies.

Mason: Yep.

Josh: And I thought maybe, Mr. 97, what we can get you to do is— when it came to the dumplings, yeah, what did, what did I say that they, um, were sort of reminded me of a little bit?

Tommy: Again, I've got no idea.

Josh: Spring— uh, what did I say?

Mason: Dim Sims.

Josh: Yeah, and you've never had a Dim Sim?

Mason: No, never had a Dim Sim.

Josh: So what I was thinking is, can you please pass the walkies-talkies?

Tommy: Are we sending him out on a mission?

Josh: Yeah. Oh wow, I'm gonna send him out. I'm just gonna turn on— can you please put it on channel 1? Just do a radio check, please.

Tommy: Yeah, radio check, 1, 2, radio check.

Josh: Don't do the number thing, but that was good.

Tommy: What? Why not? What does 1-2 mean?

Josh: 1-2 is like he's an audio engineer on a concert. Don't say 1-2.

Leon: Ah, rubber ducky, is that what you were?

Josh: Radio cheque please, radio check. Why did it stop? Did you stop something there? No, it's just— All right, I'm not going to waste any more time on the walkie-talkie. One last time.

Leon: Yeah, seems to happen every time.

Josh: Radio, radio check.

Tommy: Doesn't work. We fucked it. He hasn't charged it.

Josh: No, no, no, I definitely have charged it.

Tommy: Is it dead?

Josh: I'm gonna give it one more go.

Leon: Mr. 97, turn it off. Radio, radio.

Josh: Yeah, great. Okay, cool. All right, Mr. 97, can you go, uh, can we give him a card or something so he doesn't have to use his own money? Does he need— he can PayPass?

Tommy: You can pay.

Josh: Oh, that's gonna have a minimum, probably $10 at these rates. Uh, so Mr. 97, yeah, can you please go to the closest Dim Sim place?

Tommy: Yeah, down to the end of Easy Street. Turn right, and then it's like the first faux roll place you'll see. Go in there.

Josh: Okay, and can you please also walkie-talkie when you get just out of the building? Thank you. Just say, "Daddy needs updates." Can you just say, "Baby boy calling in." "Baby's checking in." "Baby's checking in." Okay, thank you. This is great. Glad we're doing this.

Tommy: But how about that?

Leon: Do you pay him yet?

Josh: Yeah, we do. Can you believe it?

Tommy: So he's laughing.

Josh: You've only just moved into this neighborhood?

Leon: Yes, well no, actually I was living, I was renting here.

Josh: Oh, that's right.

Leon: Just around the corner and I've just moved.

Josh: He was quick. Thanks baby, over. Can just make sure, can you hear me, over.

Leon: Oh Jesus.

Josh: Okay, well at least we know his side's working.

Leon: You could use the phone.

Josh: Yeah, that's okay, but can you hear me? Over.

Tommy: He can, that's why he responded and said Jesus, that's why it doesn't sound so good.

Josh: You just—

Leon: I'm getting bored now.

Josh: Press the call button, try again without pressing the call button. Over.

Tommy: All right, anyway, we'll just have it coming in.

Josh: The walkie-talkie thing annoys the fuck out of me.

Tommy: We learned it though.

Josh: The thing is that I think it's because they're shit. If you would have let me hire some proper good uni—

Tommy: actually got back to us. Anyway, then it would have been a different story. Have you ever had something seriously fail? Before we get to your movie and story, like on the Fee Fee Fev and Byron show, have you had something fail?

Leon: Like something on the show?

Tommy: Or just like this kind of stuff? Like, I think the difference is you guys, there's a lot of money riding on what you're doing.

Leon: I think I can't think of any like a proper example, but on the show I think we embrace shitness. Like if things go wrong, a lot of other shows want to be smick and like really, you know, professional. And then if something goes wrong, it's a huge issue. But with us, if something goes wrong, we talk about it on air and own it because then it's funny and endearing. And you know, it's—

Mason: it—

Josh: I—

Leon: yeah, I can't think of— there has been a lot of things.

Tommy: Is that a conscious decision? Is that from the powers that be above?

Leon: Yeah, kind of.

Tommy: We've had that.

Leon: We've had the— no, we've had conversations just that releases— it's—

Tommy: yeah, he's checking in. That's him checking in. He may have stumbled and accidentally pressed it, but he checked in.

Josh: Yeah, there was a walkie-talkie there.

Leon: Yeah, I can't think of any Um, any big fuck-ups? Big fuck-ups. You know, actually, when I was on a different show called Dan and Maz, which was, um, a drive show, um, we did the show out of Melbourne, but it was a national show around Australia. And we had one time that we, um, I think we— you might have been involved in this. Were you around for Pamela Anderson?

Tommy: Oh yeah. And there was one in Bondi. You sent it to one.

Leon: We had essentially for a company, we had a van that, um, we bought and we did it up and we got to name it and paint it and Essentially, we drove it, let it drive around Australia, and people could hire it out. So like, I've got a wedding, I need to get there, or, you know, I've got a prom or whatever it is, and people could, um— what are you smoking?

Josh: I just thought it was funny, prom.

Leon: Yeah, it's very American, I suppose. You know what, a dab, whatever it is.

Mason: Yeah.

Leon: Um, and, uh, that— the movie or the TV show The Inbetweeners, the UK— yeah, the sequel to that movie was, uh, the premiere was happening in the Gold Coast, um, and we got in touch with the film company and said 'Hey, we've got this van, it's very Australian, do you want us to pick the guys up and drop them at the premiere?' Um, and they're like, 'Yeah, sure, we'll do an interview and record it' and that sort of stuff.

Josh: The actors?

Leon: The actors, the cast.

Mason: So the four—

Tommy: that's great—

Leon: the four cast, and then the director was just gonna be sitting in the front.

Josh: Who was driving?

Leon: Um, one of your friends, Tom.

Tommy: Oh, Tom Bell.

Leon: His job was to drive it around the country.

Tommy: That's right.

Leon: So, um, he had the driver in the front and we had the director in the in the passenger seat, and then we had the 4 cast members and then Dan Imaz, the host. So they would conduct the interview during the drive, drop them off, you know, great promotion for us, etc.

Tommy: Closing the loop, the Bondi thing, I remember now. Tom, when I was living in Bondi, called me. He's like, bro, I'm driving this fucking van, I'm going to be in Bondi.

Leon: Need a lift anywhere?

Tommy: If you're around, I'll come grab you. It didn't end up happening, but that's where the Bondi thing came in.

Leon: But we picked up these, the cast, and because there was no room for any other sort of audio producers or digital producers We had it all set up, running, ready to go. They took a while to come down from the hotel. They finally got in. They got stuck in traffic.

Josh: Oh no.

Leon: And something happened. So either way, there was a few issues. So the audio stopped after 5 minutes.

Mason: Oh no.

Leon: The video stopped after 5 minutes.

Tommy: You're using GoPros, is that what you mean?

Leon: Yeah, we had GoPros. So all we had was a GoPro at the front that just had the driver, Tom, your mate Tom.

Josh: Sweating.

Leon: Who looks like a homeless man.

Tommy: At the same time.

Leon: And the director of the film.

Josh: Oh, he's got the dim sims. Very quick, uh, what type of dim sims? Over.

Tommy: What?

Josh: They look pretty crispy.

Tommy: They don't look like the normal soft dim sims.

Leon: Fried would be crispy.

Josh: Are they— have they got meat inside?

Leon: Yes, it's a dim— well, no one knows what's inside a dim sim.

Tommy: I think so.

Josh: Yeah, that sounds about right.

Tommy: Don't ask him.

Leon: Fried and steamed.

Tommy: Yeah, ask a guy who's never had a dim sim about the dim sim details.

Josh: Did you get fried? Over. I've got 4 of them. The crispy ones, thank you. Yeah, crispy ones, over. Great, mission complete, over.

Tommy: He's gonna make it back first.

Josh: It's getting really, uh, choppy, it's cutting out. Don't worry, we're done.

Tommy: Just stop talking. This is your problem, you stop. You just asked a question but hardly even asked a question. You said, all right, all done.

Josh: Okay, I'm all done.

Leon: Long storey short, over. We didn't have any of the interview footage from the Inbetweeners, just a video, a grainy video of Your mate driving the director of this film and not talking.

Josh: Embracing that shitness though would be quite funny.

Leon: Oh, we absolutely did.

Tommy: So you talked about it?

Leon: We talked about that. That's always been a— for some reason I like to embrace the shitness. What's the other option?

Josh: Yeah, it's to try and hide it, try and bury it, and it just—

Leon: people can tell.

Josh: Yeah, it smells more.

Tommy: Is there a show—

Leon: spreads it around.

Tommy: Is there a show that you're willing to out that actually does the opposite? Because it—

Josh: Jesus.

Tommy: No, only because I feel like it's Lots of radio stations are trying to take a piece of themselves.

Leon: Yeah. Um, no, I can't really think of any others. Like, I think most people should actually do that. Yeah, yeah, most shows.

Josh: Yeah, probably the—

Leon: like the Ryan Seacrest and shit are probably sort of overly produced, you know, countdown shows.

Tommy: Sorry, he's got the best. You've done well, son. You've got the South Melbourne Market Dim Sims. They're terrifying. Do we get one at least here and just take your first bite and then rack off.

Josh: He said we got 4, so that means we get 1 each.

Tommy: Yeah, there you go.

Josh: All right, here we go.

Tommy: Just a big bite into the mic.

Josh: Yeah, into the mic.

Tommy: Into the microphone, you animal.

Josh: Oh, we couldn't hear it. That was more into—

Tommy: all right, now we'll go and then, yeah, we'll talk about it over there. Whoever wants one again.

Josh: Yeah, thank you. Do you want to help yourself first?

Leon: Oh, there you go.

Tommy: So did anyone get in trouble for that though?

Leon: Like, actually, yeah, it was a— that was a weekend where there was no bosses around for some reason. It was a big conference and I made the executive decision as the executive producer to go up there and they weren't a fan of it. And then something happened in our host. We had a big night to celebrate, yeah, or commiserate what happened, and he had a few drinks, fell over and knocked his head, ended up in hospital. I know it was a rough night.

Josh: And yeah, Dan DeBooth we've had on the show.

Leon: Have you?

Josh: Yeah.

Leon: If you haven't, again, ask him to tell that story. It's— he owes me a night in hospital.

Tommy: Oh, so you hit your head?

Leon: No, he hit his head.

Josh: Oh, he hit his head.

Leon: But we had to take him to the hospital because like he literally fell backwards on the corner of a sharp table. Oh geez, a chunk of skin and hair. It was like, it was a big one.

Josh: Uh, so you've moved in close by?

Leon: Yes, I have moved in close by.

Josh: Funnily enough, uh, I feel like maybe I like to think of it as a character. The character that I played at Fifi and Jules was an annoying character. It was—

Tommy: I'm gonna say Josh has this blurred line between annoying characters. Yeah, the person he is in life and then the It's all for content.

Josh: It's all for content.

Tommy: Always be contenting.

Josh: ABC. ABC. Do you know how many people say ABC now from listening to you on this show? Really? Yeah. Every—

Leon: like, happy about that.

Josh: Yeah, type in ABC, guys.

Tommy: Find out when he was on the show. Oh yeah, he's the EP. Can't do shit around here.

Leon: I'll do it later on, don't worry.

Tommy: Unless he's 100.

Josh: If it's Ep 130, then he can be—

Tommy: then he's EP.

Josh: On a side note, do you think that Mr. 97 would be able to sit in on one of your shows just to watch you work, to learn how an EP actually does his job? Would you, would you, would you— is that something you could make happen?

Leon: Of course, making dreams come true.

Josh: Would you like to, would you like to sit in?

Mason: Yeah, that'd be amazing.

Leon: You see, what's happened there is you've asked before, you've asked because he probably has no interest, and now you've just thrown him under the bus.

Josh: I feel like Mr. 97 loves firsts.

Mason: Oh, 124.

Josh: 124. Overreaction again. 124 though.

Leon: That's pretty good though. That's actually closer because you know what happened?

Mason: You went away.

Leon: We recorded a few, a lot before you went away, and I put the—

Josh: fuck, that is so, uh, so I fucked up.

Leon: I'm sorry, I was filler.

Josh: It was a primetime Friday spot. But, um, no, I played an annoying character in it within our team.

Tommy: No, you were the guy. That's you, Josh.

Leon: He's a method actor.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, it's, it's probably a It is a blurred line because I didn't do much on-air content, so you could say I did piss my pants.

Tommy: Did you honestly think you were being a character, like, or is that just hindsight's crystal clear?

Josh: I think that there's an element where it's like I'm just going to be myself and it seems to rattle a few people.

Tommy: But then that's you, dude. Yeah, so you're being you.

Josh: Yeah, but I was being unapologetically me. So when you should be being you, yeah, Byron would be annoyed. When anyone would be annoyed, I'd be like, that's just me. Yeah, but for some reason it was a bit of— I was pigeonholed into that character, which just so happens to be me. Okay. And so it was an annoying characteristic when you just moved into your new place and I texted like, hey bro, I'm out the front, I'm checking out apartments in your building.

Leon: I was literally— it was moving day and this guy was literally at the front just watching me move in. You should offer to help.

Josh: I did. I think I helped with one plastic box.

Tommy: Yeah, maybe it's called Tupperware and it's 50, 40 centimeters.

Josh: It's a little bit like that.

Leon: No, but got to meet the people because you were, um, you were looking, inspecting an apartment in my building.

Josh: Yeah.

Leon: So which I actually thought, is this a good thing or about—

Tommy: yeah.

Josh: Oh no. Yeah. Well, I was—

Tommy: Josh isn't here.

Josh: I was a povo renter. I was very impressed that you bought, you know, this is your first.

Tommy: Yeah, hang on, this guy's had a job for 10 years. With the company you've been working with?

Leon: Yeah, just 10 years with that company. Yeah, Southern Cross Australia.

Josh: It must make it so much easier when it comes to like getting a mortgage and shit because they're like, oh yeah, you think so? Sure, you think so? Hopefully. Well, was it easy?

Leon: Um, yeah, it was kind of easy. Yeah, yeah.

Josh: And so how many places— because we spoke to Christian Hull, we had him on about—

Leon: oh yeah, I was talking to him about this as well.

Josh: What's, what's the process in buying a place for someone in their early 30s?

Leon: Um, Getting the paperwork done first or pre-approvals done before looking because you find somewhere you like and then I found a place I liked and I didn't have the paperwork ready and I missed it.

Tommy: Oh no.

Leon: It worked out well because it was in that building, same building, and the new one I've got is a lot better.

Josh: So do you get a certain amount? Do you say like if your apartment's worth $300,000?

Tommy: Yeah, you've got to work out a bit of maths of like—

Leon: I actually spoke to a financial advisor who, um, Jules, your mate, has used, and Sam Cave and a few others as well.

Tommy: Oh yeah, Anthony McDonald.

Leon: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Josh: We're doing last night. We're— fuck, you don't know Anthony McDonald?

Leon: Port Finance. Anthony McDonald is great.

Tommy: No, he's a legend. He's also— I was a big fan of him playing for the Melbourne Football Club. I've caught up with him to talk about video stuff and I was like, fuck, here he is. I used to watch this guy as a kid.

Josh: What did he teach you about the whole process? What was the big, big thing?

Leon: Planning.

Josh: Um, how do you plan?

Leon: This is, it's turned into a financial podcast.

Josh: Yeah, this is, we couldn't get Barefoot Investor on, so we've got Leon Shergrin to give us secondhand knowledge. It's really good though. How many buckets? Show us the jam. You got the jam jars?

Leon: No, it was just looking at like budgeting, how much you spend each week and how much you can save as opposed, and also, you know, it's essentially, it's getting the deposit's the hardest part, is it saving?

Tommy: Can I not eat?

Leon: No, you can eat.

Josh: I'll just finish this.

Tommy: So when I, um, uh, last Christmas I was at a Christmas party having, you know, Christmas party chat with someone I didn't know who was a financial advisor. And I was saying, and I was like, oh, what's happening at the moment? How's the market? Or something like just asking random questions.

Josh: How's the market?

Tommy: Then I was like, is it harder to borrow these days? He's like, it's so much harder. Everyone at our firm recently who own properties who got funding for them in Australia, yeah, uh, did the test or declared everything that they need to declare. No one passed. It is—

Leon: it's hard. I end up getting— because I, even though I had the, um, the money, I had to get backing from my parents just from their house because if anything went wrong, they go, they'll take my parents' house.

Josh: So that's—

Tommy: yeah, so you get a guarantor, which—

Leon: yeah, that's it.

Tommy: Yeah, obviously his parents hadn't read Barefoot because they don't recommend going guarantor.

Josh: Oh really?

Tommy: They he doesn't recommend.

Josh: What are you meant to do then?

Tommy: This is the thing, it's—

Josh: I mean, what's the thing?

Tommy: Parents have gone guarantor, and I don't think you're someone who's gonna just fucking—

Leon: No, exactly. And that's the thing, it's the kind of thing where in 2 years' time they can just go, cool, take them off. There's enough proof that I'm—

Josh: Okay, I thought you meant take away their house.

Tommy: Yeah, take it off, take their house, steal their super.

Josh: Um, can they access the super? I'm guessing they can.

Leon: Maybe there is—

Josh: No, they can.

Tommy: You gotta—

Leon: But we made sure like, you know, to tick up just, you know, certain things.

Josh: Oh really?

Leon: There's only a certain amount of that.

Josh: Ah, like the ass. Oh great, just the living room. Just the couch. Just gonna have to downgrade the couch.

Leon: You're—

Josh: do you—

Leon: are you owning or renting?

Tommy: Nah, yeah, I'm a renter.

Josh: I'm a renter as well.

Tommy: You know, rent money is dent money, I think. Yeah, it's fucked. It's all right, it is fucked. But the place I live in, like, if I literally had— if I had— if I had saved and been better earlier in life, I would be able to own or at least be paying. I've lived in the same place for 4 years. Yeah, yeah, that's my mortgage, what I'm paying.

Josh: You were talking about having to have like proof, like a budget sort of thing, or like planning. Yeah. Did you, did you work out how much you spend on alcohol a week?

Leon: No, I didn't work out an official number.

Josh: Okay. Yeah, I put that in, um, entertainment. Entertainment.

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: Oh my God, how many movies do you go to? You're spending 4 grand.

Leon: Yeah. No, a lot.

Josh: And so tell us, what was the process in the end? What was the big learning of it all?

Leon: I can give you a tip. Okay, I like tips. So I bought in a brand new apartment building. And so a lot of people buy these off plan. So 3, like there's an empty lot and they said there's going to be 3 years time, there'll be a nice apartment building built. You can do it like a bit of a deposit and in 3 years' time you pay up, you know. So this building is just finished and they showed me an apartment in there because someone was backing out of a sale. They changed their mind. But in that— so they were off the plan, they were buying off the plan a few years ago. They said, yep, here's my $25,000 deposit. And then it got down to settlement date and either they couldn't afford it or the bank didn't approve their loan or they changed their mind. They lose their deposit, $25K.

Josh: Really? So they lost their $25K?

Leon: They lost that. At this point, the building just wants to sell, just to sell that building and get rid of it. So I just came in and said, I'll give you this amount. So essentially what they were selling it minus $25K.

Josh: You're like those shows where they, you know, sell off like a storage unit.

Leon: Storage Wars? Storage Wars, Pawnbrokers.

Josh: Yes, you get whatever's in there.

Leon: I did, got an apartment.

Tommy: So it was on the plan, you knew exactly what was in there?

Leon: Well, the thing is as well, because a lot of these people don't get to see what it looks like until it's finished. But I got to go in and see what they look like completed.

Tommy: So that's awesome.

Leon: Yeah, it worked well. So if you look around like at other brand new buildings and ask the developers and go, hey, if anyone backs out of the sale—

Josh: Anyone under financial stress?

Tommy: Who's under pressure? Just have a sign at the front. Who's under pressure? We'll take it off your hands. Yeah.

Josh: So I mean, slightly depressing also.

Leon: But look, there's a positive side for me.

Josh: But you were telling— positive side aside, you were telling me that the whole experience has been a bit of a clusterfuck. Look, it's been—

Leon: I love my apartment, it's great.

Josh: One bedroom?

Leon: One bedroom apartment, west-facing, so I face the city, great view of the city sunset.

Josh: This is how you know if someone owns. You know the north, the west, the east.

Leon: Oh yes, I never knew my directions until I owned this apartment.

Tommy: I was in the— where's the sunrise from, mate?

Leon: The east.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, well what am I? Do you know what I'm facing? If I'm facing onto Smith Street?

Leon: You're west-facing.

Josh: Is that good? Is that where you are? Yeah. Okay, it doesn't matter if we're worth more because we don't own it, but we did—

Leon: sorry, that means you're probably paying more.

Josh: Yeah, exactly, for the view. But the, um, no, when I was in the lift, a guy said, oh, where are you? West-facing.

Tommy: Very good point.

Leon: I've never thought about it.

Tommy: See you west now.

Josh: And then I was like, I'm like, okay, this guy's like, he owns. But then Bree and I said, because the way that our thing's designed, you sort of can see the city as well. So I said, oh, where's like city-facing? Yeah, but then he sort of shut us down. Oh, okay. But I was expecting more, like him saying that, like what was he gonna— what was the reaction gonna be?

Leon: Oh my God, that's good.

Tommy: Um, anyway, yesterday, uh, Instagram went down, Facebook went down. Yeah, what happened on your show? How did you cover that one?

Leon: Um, it happened after the show.

Tommy: Ah, you didn't?

Leon: So we were fine. We covered it a bit today, but we haven't gotten to the clusterfuck though.

Josh: Sorry, I'd interrupted Leon. There's been clusterfucks.

Leon: Oh yes, no, there has, to the point where I threatened legal action today.

Josh: Oh Jesus.

Leon: Which I'm not going to follow up with it, I'm just trying to scare them a bit.

Josh: But, um, the— what does that mean?

Leon: I might, maybe, I don't know.

Josh: Wait, so did you get lawyers involved?

Leon: Not yet.

Josh: Okay.

Leon: I just sent a very angry email.

Josh: And how— and you said, if you're ready, I'm looking at—

Leon: yeah, yeah, I said I'm looking into legal action.

Josh: Yeah. Okay.

Leon: Um, so in the building there's, um, a car park lift. So there's 3 car park levels, stackers. No, not a stacker, it's a lift. So you drive your car in and you go basement 1, 2, or 3, and it drives you. So it's a big lift, only one car at a time. One car at a time. There's two lifts, so you drive your car and it takes you down and then you drive out. Yeah, so, you know, it's not like a stacker. I thought it was gonna be a stacker, but, um, so when I moved in, only one of the car lifts was working, the other one was broken. And I'd spoke to a few of the other residents and they said hasn't been working for 2, 2 and a half months. It's like, okay, that's fair. Started using it and I've only been there for 3 or 4 weeks, but there's been issues where it keeps breaking down.

Tommy: Oh no.

Leon: So when it breaks down, people's cars are stuck in there. So I like, I get up early for work and that point, at that time in the morning, there's no transport. So I've one time turned up and I couldn't get my car out of the lift. So no, I've got—

Josh: what time in the morning is this?

Leon: It's like almost 4.

Tommy: And so you're stuck in this thing?

Leon: So no, no, so the car is in the car park.

Josh: Yeah.

Leon: But so I can't get the car out.

Tommy: It's not even working. You can't even get to the top.

Leon: Yeah, yeah. Or I've had— this is happening a lot now— I've had times I've driven back home and the car park is closed, so I can't park my car in there.

Tommy: Oh, that's even worse.

Leon: So I've got to park on the street.

Josh: And you get fined. Have you gotten a fine yet? I hope you're getting them all.

Leon: I've had one fine. I kept the fine. Great. And I'm keeping all the Uber receipts and taxi receipts and stuff.

Josh: Uber Eats? Every time I get mad, I order a pizza.

Tommy: I was fucking trapped. I felt trapped.

Leon: There have been people getting trapped in the lift for over an hour. So last night there was a woman trapped in there for over an hour and they brought someone out to fix it and they said, yeah, it's fixed. And then this morning someone else was trapped in there again. It's beyond the point where I'm like, I get it, my car's stuck, I'll get to work somehow. But I don't want to be stuck in that lift.

Tommy: Like, fuck that.

Leon: There was one guy that got stuck in there for over 2 hours and the fire brigade came eventually. It's now at a point where I go I've bought— I spent the most amount of money I'll ever spend for a brand new building and it keeps fucking up. At what point do you start going—

Tommy: I was gonna say you might spend more on the legal action.

Leon: Well, that's it. And I don't think I will have a chance to lead legal action, but it's like, fuck, come on.

Josh: Yeah. Is it— do you get phone reception in that lift?

Leon: No. So there's an emergency phone button, so it calls the lift company to send someone out. But, um, you know, they're taking the sweetest time.

Tommy: So I had this situation, uh, older apartment block, a lift that actually failed, and we were in the lift, and it was tiny. I'm talking like, you know, like half the size of this table and maybe out to here. So, um, a metre and a half by a metre and a half, tiny little lift. And me and two other mates got stuck in this lift in St Kilda in an old shitty apartment block.

Josh: The old ones are scary.

Tommy: Yeah, it's horrible. I actually, when I was in—

Leon: New ones are as well.

Tommy: When I was in Paris, a lift that was no joke half the size.

Leon: I've been in those ones, yeah.

Tommy: Oh, I actually decided for like 5 things of stairs, huge. It was fucking so annoying with our bags, but I was like, I can't go in there. And I'm not even claustrophobic, but we got stuck in it. So we called and got pizza delivered because we're like, we can, we could get pizza. But how did they get out? Ah, this is— it came later, so we'd already got out. We just ended up— here's the dumb thing— we ended up just chiselling open the door, like opening up the door, and we could slide out. But it was dodgy. Yeah, the pizza didn't arrive. We had this idea that it was going to come, they're going to slide it through, and the time that we checked it also that we could get it slid through was that we could get out. But it was fucked. It's a horrible feeling. Yeah, it'd be, it'd be okay in your car. Inconvenient as well, but okay.

Leon: Yeah, it's a My worry is they say turn off your car because the fumes just start—

Tommy: ah, that's horrible.

Josh: That would be a nightmare. I would definitely— that'd be something I would forget. Absolutely.

Tommy: I'm feeling rather light-headed.

Josh: Yeah, you do. Help! Insta storeys not published because no reception.

Leon: Yeah, where they recover your body, those storeys go live.

Josh: But the thing is, I'd be doing like car karaoke. I'd be having the engine on because I think it's the only way to have this the whole speaker system going, hey, nice before I met you. And you could imagine the newspapers, right? The Final Post. It's a bit of a— it's a bit dark.

Leon: It's very dark.

Josh: It's a bit of a nightmare.

Leon: And you were thinking front cover of the paper, weren't you?

Josh: Yeah, well, this is— yeah, that's the thing. I reckon when it comes to the whole lift thing, an hour's not good enough to be a great story.

Leon: An hour is a fucking long time.

Tommy: It's a long time.

Leon: 10 minutes is long.

Tommy: What about if you're in a lift with 25 people? Who's in a lift for 25 hours? Like if you were at a big corporate center, they're like, fuck yeah, they jam them in.

Josh: Yeah, huge lifts. I would, I feel like, could you imagine if it was like 10 hours? Because then you've got like a real story. If you know when you start a new business and they say, hey, this is Josh.

Leon: Ah, but what's happening now is every time I drive in and out of the car park, I'm going, is this the time it gets me? And last night I was driving here and I was like, fuck, I really need to take a shit. I was busting at the toilet and I thought, if I drive in here and I get stuck there's not much room for me if I had to just go, where am I doing this? I'm not doing it in my car.

Tommy: I think you'd make it work out the window.

Leon: You'd have to really prove a point to them as well. Guys, your lift is broken, and also there's a turd in there.

Tommy: In fact, do it anyway.

Josh: Make a point. Send them an invoice for a whole new seat. You just have to chuck the whole thing out potentially.

Mason: Wow.

Josh: Yeah, it's the—

Leon: apart from that, you know, it's great.

Josh: But how are you actually— how do you know that people are getting— like, how are you keeping in contact with all the people within the building?

Leon: We've got a— there's a Facebook group in the apartment building. Yeah, all the people in there, which is great.

Tommy: I only heard about these from when Josh lived in an apartment.

Leon: I only realised this recently when I moved in.

Josh: Yeah, Bree was still part of the one, like our old building, and she would like give us updates like, oh, there's issues, there's issues.

Leon: So I had artificial turf installed on my balcony last week.

Josh: Yeah, and what do you mean installed? Don't you literally just buy the turf from Bunnings?

Leon: You can buy it and cut it, but can look shit. Like, this is proper— like, landscapers measure it so it fits around everything properly, and they put it down properly. So put a filter in it so it, you know, stays—

Tommy: whole apartment doesn't get mould underneath.

Leon: Yeah, that sort of stuff. Doesn't fade, all that. So, um, and I didn't realise they put sand on it because it filters so the rain can go through it and keep it clean. Um, so they put the sand down and they sort of mow it into the lawn and push it down with this brush. And then they used a blower just to blow the sand, excess sand off. And then over the weekend there was a message on the Facebook group saying, guys, have you noticed all this sand all over the balcony? It's all over my chair, my furniture, and the plants and stuff. And someone else has written, oh yeah, it's on mine as well, I'm like apartment blah blah blah, and they were above it. So I just wrote, yeah, it's on mine too. Technically it is, but absolutely it was. I didn't want, like, I didn't I didn't think about that, that there would be sand.

Josh: Do you know what happens with bins? Because our— well, our apartment block has a lot of bins and they magically get from like downstairs to upstairs.

Tommy: It's different in all apartments.

Leon: What kind of bins?

Tommy: What do you mean?

Josh: Big industrial bins that like every level has a bin.

Leon: Oh, so we've got a chute where you drop the trash.

Josh: Are you close to the chute?

Leon: Uh, it's towards the end, which I kind of like.

Josh: I don't want to be too close to the chute.

Tommy: Your apartment block has a manager. Someone's doing that for you.

Leon: I've got a manager.

Tommy: Yeah, every building, like, all the buildings don't. We've just got people in the building that—

Leon: we've got a big industrial bins downstairs where the chutes are.

Josh: Do you do the recycling thing? Do you separate things?

Leon: Yeah, yeah, the chute has recycling.

Josh: Oh, that's good. Yeah, Mr. 97 was over a couple of days ago and we moved. I got him to pick up all these boxes with me, all this rubbish, because we'd just moved in. Yeah, and we went to the bin room but the bins were gone. Do you A) bring all the rubbish back and wait for the bins, or B) leave it in the bin room?

Leon: I would leave it in the bin room.

Tommy: Yeah, okay, you're both gronks.

Josh: You left it in the bin room. Yeah, that's why— what would you do?

Tommy: Wrong move. Take it back to your apartment because then it becomes someone else's problem. Well, that's why it's the definition of a gronk.

Leon: It is the building manager's problem where the bins are.

Tommy: Yeah, but you've got to just take it back to your apartment.

Josh: Why? It's There was a no hard rubbish sign on there.

Tommy: That was everybody's.

Josh: Yeah, I understand that.

Tommy: That was everybody's choice. It would be.

Leon: But where did the bins go?

Tommy: So they're being emptied.

Josh: Yeah, so that was on a Wednesday. Fuck, a day and a half.

Tommy: Yeah, because you got to take them down in the morning. That's why I was wondering, someone then—

Leon: well, you've got a shit building manager.

Josh: Who's doing it?

Leon: Have a rubbish company come collect them.

Josh: Maybe should I send a legal action? Maybe I could do it. Maybe.

Leon: Is he on the Facebook group? Have you got a Facebook group for you?

Josh: No, I'm not on Facebook anymore.

Leon: Oh, there you go.

Tommy: There is someone that does that at our apartment block. Yeah, leaves it like there's a gate, and if the gate's closed— I understand, like, it's fucking—

Leon: we've got ones that put like uncrushed cardboard boxes and like heaps of hard rubbish down there.

Tommy: Yeah, Josh is looking guilty.

Josh: No, I'm actually very— Mr. 97, can you attest the fact that Bree had crushed all the boxes? Of course.

Mason: Yeah, no, it was all fine, it was just recycling.

Tommy: Yeah.

Mason: Oh, if it was actual like proper rubbish, then I wouldn't have done it.

Josh: If it was nappies and shit, you wouldn't do it. But what do you mean, baby doesn't wear nappies anymore.

Leon: Why are you throwing away nappies?

Josh: Well, that's what I was saying, like, it's— unless it was something that was real soiled and disgusting, you bagged it up.

Tommy: You bagged it up. It's a gronk.

Leon: It's like when, like, you have, like, meat scraps or anything like, you know, like that, you put it in the bag, separate bag, tie that up, and yeah.

Josh: No, I get it.

Leon: The panic in his eyes then.

Tommy: Yeah, I think it'd be too much for you to own a place, Josh.

Josh: Yeah, there's a, there's a lot going on, but the thing is, I would get very into all the, uh, body corporate stuff?

Leon: Oh, I'm so into it. And also, just like, I've never been more careful with things in my home. Yeah, give it a year.

Tommy: Are you going to body corporate meetings?

Leon: I went to the first unofficial one a few weeks ago because there's a few issues in the building. So this whole Facebook group decided to have a meeting before our body corporate's next week, I think, where they vote in everyone. So we had— because we had a few people complaining about different things someone from the company that runs body corporate strata, they turned up to the meeting. They found out about it through Facebook.

Tommy: Oh, sneaky little—

Leon: turned up and then someone actually pointed out and said, you're not from this building.

Josh: Yeah, you have a strata polo on. He had a hat.

Leon: So they had to ask him, and it was— and then we all had to vote whether we wanted to stay or not.

Tommy: No, it was amazing. What happened?

Leon: We all voted and said, yeah, sure, because he listened out to our problems. But It was pretty weird, like, just to like— oh, it was a weird situation.

Tommy: So how's he infiltrate the Facebook group?

Leon: Because he must have been visiting the building and there was a thing in the lift saying, hey, the owner's face— the residents Facebook group.

Tommy: Was it catered?

Josh: Oh yeah, it was.

Leon: The M&M's, Maltesers or something.

Tommy: Yeah, it's nice. Yeah, that's nice. Was it the Strata guy?

Leon: And you can tell— no, you can tell everyone falls to the ground.

Josh: Poison.

Leon: There's one or two people in the the residents that really just, you know, they're in charge. Like they were running the meeting.

Tommy: Yeah.

Leon: They loved it. They were reveling.

Tommy: That would be Josh. If there was—

Josh: Yeah, I think I could play both parts. I think I would probably—

Tommy: Would you be the guy from Fifi and Jules or would you be a new version?

Josh: I think I'd probably think, you know, I'm going to take a back seat and then someone's going to say something. I'm going to say, no, that's not how we're doing it. And then I'd probably—

Leon: You'd cause a mutiny.

Josh: I'd be the type of guy to also cater.

Tommy: Okay, no, he'd be the type of guy, okay, so we've, uh, we've concluded everything, everyone all good, any last words? Yeah, okay, just pulled out his list. Yeah, yeah, just what you said back there, Becky.

Leon: Uh, who's keeping minutes? Someone was keeping minutes in this meeting.

Josh: I'd be like, maybe should we get Asana, which is like a, which is a piece of the project management tool that we can also be across using Trello.

Tommy: Have you had any weird, um, interactions with people in your building?

Leon: Um, No, they call him—

Josh: you know what, they call him Sandman for some reason.

Leon: There's a, um, there's a really great like communal rooftop on the building and great view.

Josh: I got to see it.

Leon: Yeah, there's a very really good view and you can actually book— there's a kitchen up there with an oven and fridge you can book like it's for a function room.

Josh: What is it called? It's a special kind of communal space.

Leon: Communal barbecue? No, it's like a teppanyaki grill. Yeah, have you had teppanyaki? Yeah, I've had—

Tommy: oh yeah, I can look at this.

Josh: So is there actually one of the guys that go—

Leon: you don't have a chef there? Okay, it's essentially a barbecue.

Josh: Is that teppanyaki, the one where they flick the—

Leon: yeah, they cut things and flick it at you?

Josh: Yeah, imagine me doing that on your rooftop.

Tommy: The teppanyaki grill, is it just the— is it a different burning process or something?

Leon: It's like a, like a stainless steel one, so you can, um, slide things off and shit.

Josh: It just sort of looked like a barbecue that you'd see at like, um, the park.

Leon: Yeah, that's it.

Tommy: They've tried to do that, try to make it sound fancy. It's got a teppanyaki grill.

Josh: Is that literally what it is?

Leon: Pretty much.

Josh: Because yeah, the teppanyaki, I thought this is—

Leon: I don't know, I think teppanyaki is a different grill. Okay, anyway, so either way, so someone in like the first week I was there, actually the first day, the Saturday I was moving in, on their Facebook, on the Facebook group, they said, hey guys, I've booked the whole rooftop, um, for my party tonight, so just let you know, um, you can't really come up between 4 and 9 or whatever it was, or 5 and 9. And everyone was like, hold up, what are you like You can't book the whole fucking rooftop.

Josh: We don't even have a body corporate yet. Where the fuck did you book this through?

Leon: No, there's a booking, like a booking portal you can go to.

Josh: Oh, that's cool.

Leon: But that's— it was just for the function room, like the one area. Yeah, not the whole fucking rooftop. Because if you like— there's what, 100 apartments there? You would never be able to go on the rooftop. Like, people would book it every weekend.

Josh: Austereo would do all their world—

Leon: I want to do a world-famous rooftop from up there.

Josh: That would be great.

Leon: Good, get a cheer up there.

Josh: It would be really nice.

Tommy: And so what happened today, everyone, the whole Facebook group revolted on her.

Josh: Okay.

Leon: And she was like, oh, I didn't know, I didn't know. I was like, well, have some fucking common sense. Think about it. But I booked, like, I booked catering, I booked drinks and stuff. And I messaged saying, hey, I've just moved in today and I was hoping to have drinks on the rooftop. And she's like, what's the catch? Come after 9. I'm like, no, I'm coming up before then.

Josh: You come up after 9.

Leon: She found my apartment later on that day. She knocked, came and apologized. She goes, but also, you know, if you want to come up after afterwards, or just text me if you want to come up. I was like, I'm not texting you to come up. So I ended up coming. I made a point of going up during her party and like, was it helping yourself to the sushi? And but she'd actually apologised to everyone saying, hey guys, didn't realize, you know, it's all good. And then later on she printed signs up and put it in lift saying rooftop closed between 5 and 9. She's just like really dug a hole.

Tommy: And let's fucking cheek on that little girl.

Josh: Unless that's was a brilliant troll by someone else to make everyone really hate her.

Tommy: Yeah, it was the Strata guy.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, he's starting to leave the room.

Leon: It was actually great because I had friends come the day, that day, just to come look at the rooftop and have a drink up there. And then when they turned up, they're like, every Saturday, is there always an acoustic guitarist and catering wandering around the rooftop?

Josh: Was there an acoustic performance? Oh, that's nice. Do you reckon she would have needed a permit technically for what she was pulling? How many people were there?

Leon: It would have been It wasn't that many, so she didn't need the whole fucking rooftop anyway. She had no friends.

Josh: And was it just a friend performing? Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: Surely you did this as a phoner on the rooftop?

Leon: No, because I just moved in. I didn't want to ruffle feathers.

Josh: Yeah.

Leon: I should do it now.

Tommy: As if, like, I've seen the selling point for a lot of these new apartments is the rooftop space. There's so many.

Leon: Oh yeah, yeah.

Tommy: So as if this isn't happening.

Josh: It's because the apartments are so small, so they're like, fuck, we need to have this big spot for everyone to go.

Leon: Yeah. It's pretty good though. It's got like a rooftop cinema, it's got a projector screen.

Josh: What?

Leon: And you can plug your laptop in, or it's got Foxtel or internet.

Tommy: Or so do you have to book that out?

Leon: You can book that, yeah.

Josh: Do you reckon you'd get done for watching Pornhub on there? I wonder if that's a communal— everyone comes out.

Leon: Yeah, yeah, I booked it, guys.

Josh: Yeah, exactly. I booked it.

Leon: You don't have to watch it.

Tommy: This sounds really weird. Have you noticed driving that like police are now doing real creepy like sneak-ups to cars and looking in?

Leon: I've been done.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got done. Sad, sad state of affairs.

Josh: Were they both when they were on motorbikes?

Leon: Mine was a cycle, a bike. I was like, can I outrun him?

Tommy: I saw this creepy cyclist, he's literally hiding behind a tree on Punt Road, creeps out, he's like, and then strolls up and he's like, sniffing, add to the effect.

Josh: Both guys, you haven't had your dim sims.

Tommy: We have. So I know we haven't.

Leon: I'm just—

Tommy: I'm fine for the moment. I'm telling a story, mate.

Leon: Oh, you're telling a story?

Tommy: I'll have a bite. So I'm watching this guy. I'm like, I'm almost about to hold the horn down to let this person know because he's at the back of the car. He's like literally just like hiding out of position, and then he walks around and he just puts his arm into the window. Like, he's like almost got his hands in there, and I was thinking, this guy's fucked. Nothing happened. He must have had a conversation, said, be careful, mate, don't do that, we're watching. And he drove off. But I was thinking yesterday driving, I'd love to start trolling these people. So they're looking for people to—

Leon: we've got them looking down.

Tommy: Yeah, the eyesight looking down. But I thought, what if you got a fake penis and had it coming out of a short?

Josh: I'm so sorry. Out of your shorts? No, no good storey starts with, what about if we, if we got a—

Leon: if you go to that much effort, just get your actual cock out.

Josh: At that point, isn't it?

Leon: So I'm gonna go to an adult store and buy a dildo.

Tommy: My legit thought yesterday, what if you do that? And then my head went into, would that be illegal if you had a fake penis and they thought—

Leon: but no, no, then I said, sorry sir, you've got a fine for fiddling with yourself while driving.

Tommy: But then I was like, would you get in trouble if you were actually fiddling with yourself?

Leon: Yeah, public indecency, surely.

Tommy: But no, what if no one's seen?

Leon: Like, well, he's seeing it, obviously.

Tommy: Yeah, but he's walked up like a creep to look in my window. Not that I do this.

Leon: Well, there's only one way to find out.

Josh: I mean, it's a good question. Like, there's a guy downstairs who— 13 Knives, he makes knives. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, really amazing. Like, you can get like a whole chef set. I was very tempted, but like a whole chef set takes him 25 hours to make a knife, like $3,500 for a whole— it's crazy. Anyway, I was asking him about like how you can take the knife home because you're technically not allowed to carry knives. And what he was saying was, because if you're a chef or whatever, you can say I'm a chef and do all that sort of thing. But I wonder what happens with sex toys and carrying them. The difference between— well, sorry, if it is public indecent, like if it's not okay, you've bought a sex toy and you bought a sex toy, walk home with it, walk home.

Tommy: No, you can do what you want with a sex toy.

Leon: No, I don't think you can.

Tommy: What do you mean? We used to drive down Chapel Street with a huge black dildo.

Josh: Different time, different time.

Leon: I work with ginormous footballer Brendan Vuvola. Oh yeah, he famously got in trouble on, um, a muck-up day. What do they call it? Uh, Mad Monday for running through Federation Square with a giant dildo just in his hand. In his hand.

Tommy: He was also in a dress.

Leon: Well, there was that as well.

Josh: I don't think that's— I think it's dressing.

Tommy: No, he was like in a dress. He looked like—

Leon: I think— and he was also very inebriated.

Tommy: Yeah, like, so he looked like he was causing mayhem. He didn't look like—

Josh: what was he done for? Public indecency, I think.

Leon: Yeah, and maybe drunken disorderly.

Josh: Yeah, that one.

Leon: Um, just on what are the rules with, with the phone? Because I've read a few different things. Because after I got the phone at the fine on my phone, I got like a, a dock for my, um, Dash, like a Quad Lock.

Josh: Yeah, yeah.

Leon: So you put your phone there. Yeah, I've heard that you can use your phone.

Josh: No, no, no, in Victoria you cannot touch—

Leon: you can't touch—

Josh: you can't touch the device even with the You're correct.

Leon: The cop told me.

Josh: Now the cop is full of shit.

Leon: Yeah, well, he fined me, so he's trying to set you up again.

Josh: You can't—

Leon: even if I had a Jeep, you can't use GPS.

Josh: No, no, no, absolutely not. You can't.

Leon: What about Uber drivers? They use it.

Tommy: Uh, yeah, they're loose as fuck.

Leon: No, no, but that's the actual system you need when you're in Uber.

Josh: But as an Uber driver, can you look that up?

Tommy: No, but as an Uber driver, you should be able to do it all before you leave.

Leon: So you—

Tommy: nah, person gets in, accept, accept ride. And then go.

Leon: Because sometimes you change route and you've got to accept that, or you've got to accept your next, um, customer as you're driving.

Josh: It's interesting. I don't—

Leon: I think, I think you're allowed to use GPS.

Josh: I've asked Mr.

Leon: 97 to have a look because I remember looking that up loosely, but then loosely—

Josh: I remember looking up loosely.

Leon: Well, there's so many fucking blogs saying all different things, but yeah, what I could work out was GPS and music if it's in a cradle. Yep. But then Anything else you can't. But then, like, you know, if a cop pulled you over and you're, you know, scrolling through Instagram while it's on your cradle, you can just flick it back to GPS and go, I was just using my map.

Tommy: I've seen police just on the phone like this, just fully holding.

Josh: But Current Affair, remember, I think I've spoken about this, they did a whole report on the fact that you can't eat while you drive. You can't do it. You can't touch. You can't even have a water bottle and be drinking it. That is illegal in a lot of states.

Tommy: I saw a bloke eating a full bowl of cereal with noise-canceling headphones on, driving down the highway.

Leon: That's ridiculous.

Tommy: That was outrageous. He was living his best life. He was laughing. He was obviously listening to a fun— something funny, something funny. Not the first 15 minutes of this one, but you know, the later period, it peaks.

Josh: The, uh, Leon, have you got any suggestions in regards to the podcast? You got a very, uh, a good mind for content.

Leon: Tighten it up.

Josh: I feel like very good.

Leon: Um, a podcast is completely different to radio though, that's the thing.

Josh: Yeah, okay. Yeah, so there's nothing that we—

Leon: so these are the opposite of tighten up.

Tommy: That's, you know what, I say double speed it and then you've got your tighten—

Josh: absolutely tighten show. Absolutely loosen it up. I do like that.

Tommy: Loosen up, half speed.

Leon: Have we got the answer?

Mason: Uh, yeah, you can use it for music and audio, uh, music and GPS. Yeah, so it has to be secured. Yeah, and the driver can't be touching any part of the phone.

Leon: Yeah, well, how do you—

Mason: it's—

Tommy: yeah, so you can have it up there, but you just can't touch it.

Leon: That's a real grey area.

Josh: You may have to worry about if it's okay, but you can't touch it.

Tommy: But you can—

Leon: if the cock is attached, you can't touch it.

Josh: No, but But that— I think that's pretty clear. What it's saying is you can't be FaceTiming with the phone, which I've done a lot.

Tommy: Oh, not FaceTime. I was thinking he was meaning FaceTime. He just means not as in FaceTiming people while driving.

Josh: Yes. What did you think I meant?

Tommy: I thought you meant that, but I was like, no, surely you didn't mean that. I'm driving and who the fuck's FaceTiming while driving?

Josh: Matt Diavella, I FaceTimed him that time, but I was the one doing it. Yeah, sounds dangerous.

Tommy: You're stupid, he's just at home on the couch probably.

Josh: It's true. Um, no, what were you gonna say?

Leon: I was just saying that I feel like if you're driving and you know, you know where you need to be and you've got to put an address in, you should be able to put that in your GPS if it's on a cradle.

Tommy: What the hell happened?

Leon: I'd probably wait till you're at the traffic lights.

Tommy: Yes, back in Melway days though, which was—

Leon: yeah, my dad used to fucking drive it like with it on his lap and go, oh, just flick around and look where he is.

Josh: A bit of this in front of that.

Leon: Yeah, absolutely.

Tommy: I fucking can't see it.

Josh: The DJing that you're doing.

Leon: Oh yes, so good segue. Actually, I've got some advice. Segue.

Josh: No, so, um, uh, Tommy mentioned at the start of the show DJ. Sorry, so how the fuck did you, one, become a DJ, and two, let me— okay, yeah, can you explain, is a DJ— is a DJ like as in Uh, blue light disco, play music. No, play music.

Leon: Where was the last blue light disco you went to?

Josh: I never went to blue lights, I only went to the school organised ones. But the school organised ones, I did DJ and I played the song in grade 6. I played the song Baked Beans by Mother Goose.

Tommy: Don't know it.

Josh: Baked beans, baked beans, baked beans.

Tommy: I'm gonna tell you a little story.

Josh: Jeez, who was that?

Leon: Uh, can I find it?

Josh: Yeah, well, can you just bring up the lyrics? Because I can— I'll actually— I don't want to get a copyright infringement for playing the music, but if you can play— if— look, if I can get the Mother Goose lyrics, I would probably not prefer—

Tommy: probably not.

Leon: Do you think Mother Goose is gonna come after you?

Josh: Mother Goose Club, potentially. No, no, no, Mother Goose.

Leon: Baked beans.

Josh: Baked Beans. Yeah, it's a very good song. Stand by. But anyway, you cannot not play it, please. But can you just explain? So what, what happened with me, by the way, was I played this song and everyone left. Yeah, well, I thought, I thought it'd be funny. I was like mid-disco, I said, everyone lay down.

Tommy: It's not yoga.

Josh: And the thing was, there was there was some like real sick units in my primary school or whatever, and they were like so pissed off because they were playing all this like that type of music. And I went in, yeah, that sort of tune. And so anyway, it didn't go down very well. But, um, Baked Beans, I actually know all the— I knew all the words, and if I just have the beginning, I'll be able to do it. And it's gonna—

Tommy: we don't want you to do it. That's the main point. Tell your story.

Josh: Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: I asked you about getting into DJing.

Leon: Okay, so I have been DJing, but I don't think I'm an actual DJ. My friend owns a bar on Johnson Street called Fifi's, which is next to the Bendigo Hotel.

Mason: Yeah.

Leon: And I used to go in there a lot, and the owner, she, um, we're talking about music, she said, oh, why don't you jump behind the decks one time? I was like, yeah, I don't know how to DJ. She goes, that's fine, just like make a Spotify playlist and just, you know, that's what all the others do. Yeah. So I did that a few times, and she was paying me to to do it. Really? And then, um, now one of my best friends has just opened a bar on Smith Street called The Lame Duck, and she's like, oh, can you come DJ at my bar? And I'm like, sure. I'm not a DJ, like, I don't know how to DJ, but— and I was doing the same thing using Spotify and sort of curating it on the go and reading the vibe. It's like '60s, '70s, '80s dive bar kind of thing.

Josh: Do you minimise anytime someone comes over to request a song just so they don't know that you're—

Leon: I'm looking at Paul.

Josh: Exactly. No, but like Spotify, I'm guessing there's probably people that would— like, if I saw that the DJ was using Spotify, from a credibility point of view—

Leon: well, but I also was never saying that I'm an actual DJ.

Josh: Did you feel the pressure to all of a sudden say, you know what, I'm going to start pressing some buttons?

Leon: Well, no, since then I've taught myself how to use the decks.

Josh: Oh great.

Leon: Which is good. I'm still— I'm not great, but yeah, I absolutely nail song selection.

Josh: Yeah.

Leon: And I'm getting better with, you know, curating and stuff.

Josh: So do you— what's— what do you actually do? What does the deck do for you? Does it help with transition of songs?

Mason: Yes.

Josh: Do you do beats per minute?

Leon: You have both sides and you have, you know, USB, and I usually connect a laptop— sorry, mic technique— um, connect a laptop or another USB and it's, um, beat matching. It reads BPM and you can find similar songs, beat match to like speed and slow it, speed it down, slow it up, or other way around. But, um, yeah, and then, yeah, it's just I've been doing, enjoying it and I was supposed to DJ at the Grand Prix today. I've been getting gigs. I got a gig to DJ at the Melbourne Cup. I was busy, I couldn't do that one. Um, I was supposed to do the Grand Prix today and I backed out because I was like, again, I'm not a DJ. Like, I don't think you realize.

Josh: Was it like a marquee or what was it? Like, can you say what the brand was?

Tommy: Red Bull.

Leon: Like, it was a big brand. Like, do you know, have you ever seen those giant black— the black Red Bull ATV trucks, and they have the roofs that lift up and there's DJ decks that come out of it. They wanted me to do that.

Tommy: Who's this through?

Leon: A media company through someone at my work.

Josh: Okay. And what's the, uh, what do you wear when you do— do you wear one of your shirts?

Leon: Yeah, you wear a colourful shirt usually, because that's one thing. Why don't you pop in tomorrow night? I'm doing it.

Tommy: Yeah, that'd be great.

Leon: What'd I teach you?

Tommy: Show me content.

Leon: Why don't you— I'll drop your mother to the airport if it's It's called Mother Goose.

Josh: Mother Goose. Baked beans, Mother Goose. I got a little song entitled Baked Beans.

Tommy: Can you drop it and see what— get a sample?

Leon: What if I video? I'll drop it.

Josh: Baked beans, baked beans, baked beans, baked beans. Seriously, can you go on Spotify, viewers and listeners, and type in Mother Goose Baked Beans and just imagine being at a disco and listening?

Tommy: You're singing it. Did you sing it? Did you get on the mic?

Josh: No, I didn't. I didn't get on the mic, but it was— I was ridiculed and I just remember having to have a conversation.

Leon: It is, it's really like if you fuck it up. Have you DJ'd before? I feel like you've DJ'd.

Tommy: Yeah, I had, I bought DJ decks. Yeah, and my, my mate used to have a, um, a DJ business. My brother's DJ, they've got like all the gear.

Josh: Did you have CD?

Tommy: We had CDJs, turntables. My brother's got this thing called Traktor. Oh yeah, fucking sick. It's like making it easier to DJ.

Leon: Are you a thing called Rekordbox?

Tommy: You're literally seeing two tracks.

Leon: That's it.

Tommy: And you're seeing where the beat hits this centre point. You could even do it, Josh. Yeah, well, just like—

Josh: do you ever, do you ever talk on the microphone?

Leon: No, I'd love to. I yell a lot.

Josh: Oh, what do you mean?

Leon: I love songs where if you get them drunk enough and like whipped up in a bit of a frenzy, like— yeah, how do you get songs like— get another drink, the bar's open before that.

Tommy: I DJ.

Leon: Yeah, but things like, um, Somebody to Love by Queen.

Josh: Yeah, somebody, somebody, somebody, somebody.

Leon: Yes, that's the one. And there's a part at the end of the song where it's like the clapping sort of bit. You get people to stamp their feet and clap and like you can get people up and going. Like it's such a fucking rush, it's great.

Tommy: You're just controlling them.

Leon: Like Blister in the Sun, that song.

Josh: Da da da da da da.

Leon: And then bring them back up when it's loud.

Tommy: Have you watched the Avicii documentary?

Leon: No, that didn't end well for him.

Tommy: Super sad. Yeah, you know, you know the end, he dies.

Josh: He doesn't, yeah.

Tommy: He does.

Mason: Well, that's it.

Josh: I'm trying to rev myself up to watch this Michael Jackson.

Tommy: There's no rev— there's no revving up for it, mate.

Leon: No warm-up.

Tommy: You don't— you don't want a high before you watch that to get a low because you'll be— yes.

Josh: Did we mention—

Tommy: coming lower.

Josh: Did we mention, Tommy, that when we were at a TAFE the other day, we were explaining what we do and someone said, have you ever said anything that you regretted or anything like that? And Tommy minced his words and said—

Tommy: he didn't mince my words.

Josh: He said, oh look, I, um, The other day I was playing devil's advocate for paedophiles on the show.

Tommy: I can't remember specifically what I was saying, but I was—

Josh: but you didn't do that.

Tommy: So it's—

Josh: but how do you know you're playing devil's advocate?

Tommy: I think I was saying like a, a side, a counter side for someone who may have been in that position. So it could have come across like I was being— playing devil's advocate, saying I don't agree with anything that paedophiles do Yeah, but what were you saying?

Josh: You know what I'm saying?

Tommy: I'll have to listen back, but I just remember because you made a comment after the show saying— you said—

Josh: I said you could make that out or whatever.

Tommy: They could— no, you said, oh, you said take that. Yeah, yeah, and take it out of context. And so that's my point. If I'm to say, well, fuck, okay, I don't agree with any of these fuckwits, but what if there was another side to this bit here? I can't remember what I was saying, but there are—

Leon: there are valid arguments about these two that are claiming sexual abuse, but it's so icky. Like, there's—

Tommy: I just feel like even if it was 5% true, 1% true, it's fucked. Like, so even if it wasn't the full extent of what they said on that documentary, small bit, oh, it's disgusting.

Leon: We actually had a conversation at the bar that I've been DJing at about not playing MJ anymore, just because it's a weird thing, because a lot of people— it's really mixed people.

Josh: I wouldn't play MJ anyway. And I just feel like, nah, mate. Yeah, Queen. I'd be sorry if you played Baked Beans.

Tommy: Yeah, if something—

Josh: I mean, the thing is, Freddie Mercury, uh, was a bit of a dirty bastard but not a pedophile. Okay, was he? He was very like— he had like a lot, he had like 5 like big orgies and stuff like that, but I guess it's all just rock stars in the '70s, you know? Yeah, sure.

Leon: Yeah, Bowie, Mick Jagger.

Josh: Yeah, they were all—

Tommy: Michael Jackson, just not the ones that everyone else—

Leon: yeah.

Josh: Liked.

Leon: Okay, I, I watched the first half of the first hour of the first half and I couldn't— it was too much.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, it's horrible. What did— did you guys talk about it on your show?

Leon: Yeah, we have, um, just about if, if your views have changed after watching documentary about Michael. Kind of mixed. A lot of people still think he's innocent. Some people— I've got a friend who's got a full-length tattoo of Michael Jackson on her torso. And I was like, I don't know how to bring it up with her. Yeah, how do you feel about that tattoo now? Even if she's thinking about it, absolutely. He— well, he's still proven not guilty at this point, you know, but still there's a lot of stigma.

Josh: But there's that legal thing, but then there's also just common sense, right? Yeah. And so I think that's— I heard—

Leon: I personally think it was just weird that he was having little boys sleep in his bed as an adult. That's—

Tommy: well, if it stopped there, that's weird. Oh, it's just exactly him doing that. That's fucked up.

Leon: Yeah, there's some— a lot of things to consider.

Josh: Do you think that with the DJing stuff you're going to leave the show?

Tommy: Fifi, uh, absolutely.

Leon: Yeah, absolutely.

Josh: Do you think maybe next year, do you think that you would do the Grand Prix? Like you would actually—

Leon: I think, yeah, I'm trying to get my skills up a bit more.

Josh: You know, I'm going to take that out of context and imply that you are going to do the Grand Prix for 2020 Grand Prix. Yeah, Melbourne, get launched, $40 million. Like as one of the race car drivers.

Leon: Me and Deadmau5.

Josh: He's Deadmau5.

Leon: He's the DJ.

Mason: Okay.

Leon: Yes.

Josh: Yeah, sorry, I thought that was a culture again. I thought that was, um, a name for Dan Ricciardo. Daniel Ricciardo. Deadmau5. I do like that though.

Leon: I did have an idea a few years ago where I was before I even started doing DJing, but, um, I saw it.

Josh: Can you stop doing it? Every time you say DJing and you do the little things with the quotation thing. Spotify.

Leon: Spotify.

Josh: The— I hope you at least have a premium account.

Leon: Yeah, I do. I was at a party recently and they didn't have a premium account. It was really annoying.

Josh: No, that's weird.

Leon: But I had an idea, um, for a DJ, um, sort of to do a show called Walt DJ, which is a DJ set that just plays Disney songs.

Josh: Oh, that's cool. You'd be sued.

Leon: I got to the point— well, that's the thing, I got— I've got an Instagram account, Twitter account, and Facebook.

Josh: Walt DJ. Yeah, I don't know if Walt would be trademarked, but playing his music, yeah, absolutely.

Leon: Yeah, you couldn't do it as an official— you do a few sort of un— like, you know, at bar, local bars and stuff, but you couldn't make money off it. Yeah, the idea would be, yeah, to do a set full of songs, but like, you know, a lot of props involved. So like, you know, when Under the Seas, I'll get a bubble, bubble gun.

Tommy: That's a good idea. Mickey Mouse head.

Leon: Yeah, Mickey Mouse head. You know, you could walk out with Fantasia with the robes on.

Josh: Hilary Duff was Disney as well.

Leon: Lizzie McGuire.

Josh: Did you ever— did you see the film Lizzie McGuire? Yeah.

Leon: No, I didn't actually.

Josh: It was actually a very— it was a very good film.

Tommy: For the films that Josh has seen, yeah, it was up there.

Leon: It's no Schindler's List.

Josh: It was in Europe. Yeah, I haven't seen it. No, I haven't. Um, it's very different. I get that.

Leon: Well, we should—

Tommy: maybe we should have a, um, a movie night up on your On your—

Leon: on my rooftop.

Tommy: Rooftop. We'll book out the whole joint. Tell Jenny from apartment 302 to fuck off.

Josh: Do you think we could do it?

Tommy: We've got the full thing.

Josh: Could we do an outside broadcast from— yeah, if you want— your rooftop?

Leon: Absolutely.

Josh: How many people do you reckon we could fit comfortably? Just give us a number. I mean, we've got big numbers. How many do you reckon?

Leon: I don't know, 100 and something.

Josh: 100 and something. I reckon let's bring 15 just to be respectful.

Tommy: What are you— Mason, if he lands one, Fat Friday, we'll do a Fat Fridays.

Josh: We'll use the teppanyaki bar, we'll do the teppanyaki grill. Okay, um, that could be fun. And because I'm guessing date, like afternoons, and good for you as well because you're— you've done with the show. Exactly. What do you— with— in regards to radio and producing and all that sort of thing, you've peaked in some regards. Well, you have.

Tommy: Down from here, buddy.

Josh: You've done— you've got the top producing role in Melbourne, really.

Leon: Yeah.

Josh: So what do you reckon you could do next? What would you— what's on the cards?

Leon: I want to keep producing for a little while because I love content, because I feel like the higher you go up, the less you get to actually create content. So I think for a while I'm still happy where I am, and then by the time that I move on from that, I feel like radio will be different anyway, so there'll be different roles or a different job. So I don't plan too far ahead. I don't like that.

Josh: Yeah. Do you have any advice for Mr. 97? Maybe the reason he's on his phone is because he's bored. No, he's actually writing in. What have you— so he writes down—

Tommy: you got a date or are you just writing notes?

Josh: No, he writes notes. So can you tell us what's, what's on today's show? God.

Tommy: So this is— that's his task, to sort of take notes.

Josh: Yeah.

Mason: So it hasn't been filtered down. Leon's first jobs, Getflix debt collectors, Our Fat Fridays order, uh, 18 dim sins, Malvern Place— to figure out where it is for Josh. Um, financial advice with Leon, Josh's bin problem, unofficial buddy corporate meetings, new apartment problems, new breed of cops, the Michael Jackson documentary, producing Fifi, Fev and Dave, and Byron.

Leon: Dave left a while back.

Tommy: Forgive him though. When was the last time you've listened to a radio?

Mason: So I haven't even listened to it.

Leon: You're not coming in now.

Tommy: It's actually, you know, that's an interesting perspective that I guess you can gain from someone who doesn't listen. He's a kid that's grown up never listening and then comes into one of the biggest shows in Melbourne. It's like, I'm so fast. The Daily Talk Show is so fascinating for Masson. Mr. 97. You're going, 'Masson, you're full rattled.' I'm looking forward to hearing what he thinks about the experience because we've been in the bubble, we've been there.

Josh: I reckon there's so much because there's heaps of things that I want to bring in from a professionalism point of view that like when working with you, Leon, just the way that you— do you still do the one-pagers and shit for guests, all that sort of thing? What I mean, what is it?

Leon: Was there a one-pager for me today?

Josh: Uh, absolutely not. No, well, what we'll actually discuss—

Tommy: one-pager, the, uh Dumpling menu.

Josh: Yeah, no, we'd actually— we'd spoken about like, oh, do we want to do one-pagers? If you're producing your own show, you know, do you, do you need it? Is it gonna— do you lean on it too much? Have you found a balance where it's like sometimes, uh, talent will use one-pagers too much and go into an interview blind?

Leon: Or our guys are pretty good, like they're— they just need the hard facts about someone, but then they have their own ideas and questions about things, and we throw ideas around beforehand.

Josh: Have you ever fucked it where you've put something in a one-pager that's not true?

Leon: Oh yeah, I still remember the best one. It was Jules, your mate Jules, when I was on Fifi and Jules. Um, they were gonna play a game, like it was like a would you rather game.

Tommy: Yeah.

Leon: And it was with, um, Simon Pegg and Edgar Wright, Nick Frost. So the guys from Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz. Um, Nick Frost is in that new Fighting with My Family movie. Um, and there was a hypothetical about would you rather something with blah blah or something with, um, your dad. And Nick Frost was like, well, my dad died, um, 3 weeks ago. Oh, and the studio was just, just ice cold.

Tommy: And what happened?

Leon: Jules just sort of shrunk into a hole.

Josh: And was that from the one-pager? Did you come up with that idea? It was not me.

Leon: I didn't know who it was.

Josh: It was on—

Leon: I can't remember who it was.

Tommy: It was Josh Janson, the character.

Josh: I would have not have been allowed allowed to do anything for the one.

Leon: No, he wasn't allowed anywhere near.

Josh: It would have been Kerry, definitely would have been Kerry.

Tommy: And who took the blame? Did, did—

Leon: how did Jules react? I think Jules did.

Tommy: Well, he's—

Leon: well, Nick Frost's famous words were, 'Never assume someone's parents are alive, guys.' Yeah, he said that. Good point. Like, I feel like—

Josh: yeah, Tommy, you would be someone to assume that someone's parents—

Tommy: uh, no, I'm rather careful. I'm right.

Leon: Yeah, I'm pretty careful now.

Josh: Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: I mean, I'm— I'd probably be the person to fuck it up.

Josh: He's, he's good. Good, good.

Tommy: Yeah, I, I, I could fuck it up, but— and I'd own it, I think.

Josh: How do you own it?

Mason: You just—

Tommy: I'm sorry, fuck, that's— I'm so sorry, dude, that's shit. That's all you get.

Leon: What else is it? And like, again, how are they supposed to know? Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of things about them they wouldn't be able to know.

Josh: So I think I'd be more uncomfortable, like if that was me, that something like, if I was in situations, say if one of my parents passed away and then certain things like Mother's Day and Father's Day, like, that would just always— yeah, it'd be like, oh, like, part of the anxiety for me would be more around like people saying shit and then having to be like— I think I have to pretend. Yeah, just pretend.

Tommy: Well, I think people end up being— you'd pretend sometimes.

Josh: Yeah, but like, Mum's good. Yeah, I got her like another mug. Didn't like it that much.

Tommy: Far out.

Josh: Because I just, I prefer to make them feel comfortable. But then where it falls over, it's like, ah, she should come around for dinner.

Leon: Yeah, that's it. And then that becomes, then your life becomes a plot of a sitcom.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then I become character Josh, not real Josh. We got some emails.

Tommy: Yeah, heaps of emails. Uh, we're talking about Cadbury Creme Eggs. Wayne Peters has blown that lid fucking wide open.

Josh: He's also— Tommy's just loving the last name today.

Leon: Anyway, apparently he's in witness protection, which is good.

Tommy: So hang on, in radio— yeah, this is where I draw that from. The, the—

Josh: would you say last names in radio?

Tommy: No, no. Okay, I said his last name. I've said his last name before. We say his last name on Twitter, we tag him on Instagram.

Leon: We don't have his last name. It could be a fake last name.

Tommy: Well, it's It's not, um, but in radio you always say, oh, it's Linda from Maroopna.

Leon: Yeah, exactly.

Tommy: Which is what I said yesterday, which you pulled me up on. I said it's, um, Hayley from Wangaratta or something like that.

Leon: Anyway, anyway, a lot of regional listeners, don't you?

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just pulling myself back to those Shepparton days.

Josh: Wayne has said, uh, Cadbury Creme Eggs originated in the UK in the early '60s, but we sent a link to Wikipedia which, based on the fact that they were marking you as is a promotional page rather than an official one. I think it's fake news.

Tommy: Yeah, it's definitely— it's shit resources. But that's interesting that, yeah, they're from the UK as well.

Leon: Feels like a UK thing.

Mason: Yeah, why?

Tommy: I don't know.

Leon: I feel like I remember there being TV commercials for Cadbury Creme Egg when we were younger and it was a UK ad.

Josh: Yeah, like a British— like the Cadbury, I imagine it being like a like a Jeeves, as in like a mummy little fucking kid.

Tommy: Yeah, no, yeah, a little posh kid. Yeah, uh, we also got one from Kay over in London. Keep up the great work. It's— we've got quite a few people listening in London.

Leon: Oh, have you taken the show to— you've been to the US?

Tommy: Well, in the US, you've been in the US.

Josh: I've done the show from London from an Airbnb.

Leon: You had a holiday while he had to work.

Josh: Still, it's true, that's what happened. Any others? Was that—

Tommy: oh, we've got a bunch coming through. It's all different ones.

Josh: We'll get to it on Monday. But hi@thedailytalkshow.com, we have stickers you can You can still get stickers.

Tommy: This is the last day, so within Friday, that will probably bleed into the weekend. We actually have to keep it going Friday, but then it will be tomorrow over in the US and the UK becomes Friday. So if you're in the—

Josh: if you're—

Tommy: if it's Friday and you're listening to this, send through, hi, The Daily Talk Show, stickers in the subject line, and you'll get some stickers. Oh, give us your address.

Josh: Yeah, in the body of the email.

Mason: We need that.

Leon: Uh, Shokes, would you do a mail drop for everyone in my apartment building of your stickers.

Tommy: That could be good.

Josh: Would you do that?

Leon: Oh no, fuck off. No, I've just told all these stories. I don't want anyone to listen to this.

Josh: Could you please?

Tommy: No.

Josh: What do you think about that, me doing a mail drop with stickers in my apartment thing?

Tommy: Well, I do that, but I think you need— oh, you think people will look it up? They'll go, it says there our names.

Leon: If you put it in 100 letterboxes, you'd get 3 or 4 curious people.

Josh: We've got a lot of stickers.

Tommy: It's some old, the grand, on the ground, old school marketing, on the ground approach. I'll do a mail drop with, um, Listen to the daily talk show. Here it is. Here's who we have on. Love you to listen.

Josh: It's super old school, but people would go, shit, yeah, that's great. It gives me anxiety to think that it's in the building that I'm in though.

Leon: That's why maybe don't do the building.

Josh: That's why I feel comfortable with you doing it in your building. I know, because it's like, hang on, they'll look up and they'll look at the Instagram, they'll be like, oh, that Josh that like is weird in the lift, like that's him, and they'll know.

Tommy: Let's just go some other buildings, all right?

Leon: Just go pick another building or just go houses.

Josh: Well, actually, that's the thing. The unique thing about the apartment block that I'm in is the letterbox. It's actually, it's all just connected. My old apartment block, the, uh, the letterbox was past the security. You had to go through a security thing. Yeah, the one at our new apartment, I was wondering, I'm like, we get so many flyers. It's because it's before security.

Tommy: It's also because you don't put junk— no junk mail, please. You haven't put a sticker on there.

Josh: I didn't have it at the last place.

Tommy: So because you had the fucking door, dude, you had the junk mail filter.

Leon: One of your mates mail drop near universities because that's a good idea. Students listen to podcasts all the time.

Josh: Yeah, well, I was, I was saying to Mr.

Leon: 97, your EP should be sorting out.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can you whip up a flyer on, uh, some programme and get it done? It was out by the weekend.

Josh: Sounds confident. No, but I said to Mr. 97, I like the idea of— we did a show at a TAFE, it was like a demo show. Oh yeah, what about if we were to do like one a fortnight at a different TAFE?

Tommy: They'd have to have us and want us to be there.

Josh: But if we were to say, hey, media and comms, I think it's a good way.

Tommy: You're meeting people who are wanting to become content creators and podcasters, so it is, you, they're primed to listen to your show. It's a good way for us to get people to listen.

Josh: Would you DJ if we did, if we did an opening set? No, if, yeah, if we did, no, but if we do a, um, an event at some point, yeah, would you do that? And so how would you, if I was to say you have a you're doing a 20-minute set. Yeah. How do you— how would you break that up, do you think?

Leon: Depends on the audience, depends on the location, the time, if people are drunk or not.

Josh: Okay. If I said I like Queen. Yeah. And then you'd say just, just Queen, and I love Queen medley for you. Queen cover song. Just—

Leon: oh, that's really niche, but if you want.

Josh: Yeah.

Leon: This is why you're not a DJ.

Tommy: Yeah.

Leon: But I think they really narrow down your selection.

Josh: Are you a cover— do you like covers? Do you play?

Leon: I love covers. Myself. I don't play them because you want— people want familiarity.

Josh: Sure. Okay. All right, today's talk show, Leon Shergren. Thank you.

Leon: DJ Shergs.

Josh: DJ, are you on Instagram?

Leon: Uh, yeah, Leon Shergren.

Josh: No, but I thought you'd be DJ Shergs anywhere.

Leon: Have you got the domain name? For my friend's bar, yeah.

Josh: Have you got the domain name?

Leon: No.

Josh: I feel like if you're serious about it, if we want to turn it into— yeah, maybe if we want it to be a good successful venture—

Leon: go cheque out my friend's bar if you're in Collingwood. The Lame Duck. Lame Duck, Fitzroy, Collingwood, on Smith Street.

Josh: Smith Street, which part of Smith Street?

Leon: Corner of Smith and Gertrude.

Tommy: And we also just need to quickly get an update, Mr. 97. What do you think of the dim sim for the first time ever?

Leon: I actually really liked it. I've had them at South Melbourne one time.

Tommy: They're good.

Josh: Yeah, they're pretty yummy.

Leon: Better than the dumplings?

Tommy: A bit more than that, would you?

Mason: Yeah, yeah, better than the dumpling.

Leon: Yeah, ABC, what else?

Josh: Come on.

Mason: I thought, I thought, um, dim sims were meant to be like soft.

Josh: They're like not crispy.

Leon: You can get like boiled or steamed dim sims, uh, much like dumplings. You can get fried and steamed, you can get fried and steamed.

Tommy: Interesting. Fuck, we're blowing his mind every week. Any date thing here?

Josh: Date updates?

Leon: Uh, no, he's got one, look at him.

Tommy: There's a smile.

Mason: Uh, it's maybe this weekend. No, next week, next week, next Tuesday, next Tuesday, Tuesday.

Leon: That's nice. Tuesday, taking them to a, uh, a movie or something.

Mason: Half-price movie, uh, we'll have to see.

Josh: Afternoon, afternoon.

Leon: First one, or is it a meeting again?

Mason: No, no, no, first date.

Josh: Yeah, first date of the second of his life.

Tommy: Well, huge. We'll clap that.

Leon: Yeah, well done.

Josh: Good luck, Mr. 97. It's a daily talk show as well. Please don't, uh, have a good one, guys.

Tommy: We'll see you Monday.

Mason: See you guys.