Sleepovers And Wet Ones

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 305.

Tommy: Happy Monday! What's going on?

Mason: How are we?

Josh: You've been a mess today.

Tommy: Why? Why have I been a mess?

Josh: You've, uh, forgotten your laptop charger.

Tommy: Yeah, no, I spent— I spent some time this morning.

Josh: You forgot a t-shirt.

Tommy: Being a good boy, folding my t-shirts. Had 2 t-shirts and then my charger, which I took out. This is the thing with a baby there is like, we get in the car so often and think, fuck, we forgot that. Because you think about doing something for yourself and how you forget shit.

Mason: Yeah.

Tommy: And then add another person that you need to do that for.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Outside of your partner, who you also do that for within your head, as if you're not sort of doing the cheques for Bree as well, and then cheques for you. Third person, it's fucked. And add in having to wipe a child's asshole, that's fucked. Last— that was one—

Josh: I'm sorry I said anything.

Tommy: So this is— I'm venting now. Last night, Bodhi he did a poo in the toilet for the very first time. And the way I got him on there—

Josh: is that a clap?

Tommy: Oh, that's a laugh.

Josh: Sorry, I'll take that.

Tommy: That's what I felt like when I was doing it. So I bribed him onto the toilet. He told me, I need to do a poo. He said poo. And I said, do you want to go? He said yeah. And then we got there and he blew up.

Josh: What do you mean he blew up?

Tommy: He blew up. No, don't want it. And I said to him, if you go to the toilet I'll give you some yogurt. And then he was like keen, we got his pants off and he got up there. And I legit felt in the moment, you know when you are doing something and you have a realization, you've got no, like, this is so foreign to me, I feel so just out of my depth here. And you kind of get a bit hot and you feel like, it'd be like everyone's looking, you feel like everyone's looking at you while you're doing something.

Josh: But you were at home, weren't you?

Tommy: I was at home, but it was at the point of wiping his bum.

Josh: Yeah, sure.

Tommy: And I hadn't— like, I wipe my bum and don't think, don't even think about it.

Josh: How do you do it?

Tommy: Stand up. What do you mean?

Josh: I'm just curious, like, because I guess that's one thing. We'll go to the toilet, uh, privately, and we all—

Tommy: everyone has their own little quirks.

Josh: Yeah. And because I think some people— I feel like I've seen in movies some people do it sort of, they barely stand up. Yeah, I sort of, I go full stand up.

Tommy: Is that because you don't have the leg strength? Yeah, the core strength.

Josh: Yeah, probably.

Tommy: Yeah, there's a possibility. I, I—

Josh: and so right or left hand?

Tommy: Uh, yeah, right for sure. Okay, I'm right-handed.

Josh: And so Indonesia, if, uh, they use their left hands as their ass wiping hand.

Tommy: Yeah, which is why in India too.

Josh: Yeah, and that's why when they, um, when you shake hands, you always do the right hand, not the left.

Tommy: Who the fuck is shaking with the left hand unless you have something wrong with your right hand?

Mason: That's—

Tommy: I get it.

Josh: Well, you don't have a right hand, full stop.

Tommy: 100%, then you've got to go the left. Yeah, so it's not about those people, but the normal way of like— shake my hand just left-handed right now and see how it feels. Hey mate, oof, I just feel so uncomfortable. Look at that, I've got my finger out like a gun. That felt weird. It's not good and clammy. Anyway, so I'm getting to this point where I'm not clammy.

Josh: I'm—

Tommy: yeah, a little bit, maybe it's me. I'm wiping Bodhi's bum. And for the very first time, and it's not good, dude.

Josh: But don't you do it every time he takes a shit in his nappy?

Tommy: Yeah, but it's a different thing. He's on the ground, you've lifted his legs up, it's like I've got my system, whereas this is the first time where I'm having— so basically you just go lean over and he's leaning over like his stomach is like on his legs and you're having to get down behind. I just had this, I just felt so weird in that moment where I'm like This just feels so weird. Like, I do it to myself all the time.

Josh: Would you ask him to do it or no?

Tommy: No, he's too young now. And so I got there, but not without my hand being the casualty of some wandering feces. So anyway, I was rattled this morning. I was rattled, but I'm here.

Josh: I can see why.

Tommy: I'm here and it's a new day.

Josh: Have you ever done the wet ones?

Tommy: What do you mean? For myself?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Yeah, definitely. Do you know, I think it was—

Josh: Wet Ones. You've actually bought them at the shop? I feel like it's not one of those things of like, I've never bought, I've actually never wiped my ass with Wet Ones.

Tommy: Yeah, well, I've got them around because I've got a child and so—

Josh: Are Wet Ones the same as the toilet?

Tommy: They are Wet Ones. You shouldn't put any Wet Ones into the toilet, even the ones that say flushable. Those Wet Ones that you can buy from the supermarkets, they're not meant for the toilet.

Josh: Well, they had a big issue in Melbourne where there was a huge— it was like a 1-ton ball.

Tommy: Oh, what are they called? A churd burger? Or, um, there's something like a fatberg. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, so it's like a mixture of gronks throwing sanitary items down the toilet and oils and all this crap that sort of clogs up. There's one underneath the city, underneath London, and it was like the size of like 20 buses or something outrageous. But they have to— these poor bastards have to go down and clean it out. Um, Katy Perry, I I heard only uses wet ones. Yeah, only, only to go to the bathroom.

Josh: I can't believe that.

Tommy: Craig Harper, he said to me, um, here we go, and he said it out. Craig Harper, he said it on his talks at some of his conferences and shit. I don't know how it got there, but he's like, I have to have a shower after every—

Josh: was that one of the 20 questions? Poops?

Tommy: No.

Josh: Do you—

Tommy: what would the question be? What's your routine after you go?

Josh: I think the showering thing's very normal. Yeah, that's why I say that I'm very specific on go in the morning. Yeah, have a shower. And that's why when I get up super early, it can sort of throw you off. Yeah, wreak havoc.

Tommy: Little boys rattled.

Josh: Yeah, a little bit, a little bit.

Tommy: Bodhi did 3 yesterday, so that's fun.

Josh: What did he eat to do that?

Tommy: Uh, I don't know, fruit, yogurt, all different types of stuff.

Josh: Do you know what I was thinking? Uh, Bri and I had a discussion like Friday where we were like, what do you reckon Mr. 97's bedroom's like? The reasonable thing is, because like you're quite an organised guy.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah.

Josh: Can you describe what— maybe we can have a bit of a turn it into a game. What do you imagine Mr. 97's bed?

Tommy: I think he makes his bed every day.

Josh: Yeah, definitely.

Tommy: I—

Josh: oh, I feel like it's a one. I think it's so easy to do so. I feel like he's just, uh, I reckon he's got a navy Blue Doona.

Tommy: Yeah, I could see navy blue.

Josh: Bree was like, do you reckon it's a single bed?

Tommy: Oh, I reckon double. A lot of kids are getting doubles these days.

Josh: Is it a double?

Tommy: Double bed?

Josh: A king single? King single. So you got the double bed.

Tommy: I think he actually has like a desk in his room where he can do work. Like he's got his screens. I just picture like a, you know, like a workstation.

Josh: Working, yeah, the server. Have you got a little—

Mason: No server, no.

Josh: No server. Have you got a TV in your room?

Tommy: Is it a minimal room?

Mason: Yeah, there's not much in there.

Tommy: Yeah, okay.

Mason: Look, there are a few, a lot of plants in there.

Josh: Really? Yeah, it's sounding like Tim Ferriss's house a little bit. Yeah, so you, um, and do you have a lot of natural light?

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: Do you, okay, yeah.

Mason: Do you wake up to an alarm or, uh, yeah, it depends, depends on the time I have to wake up.

Josh: And so while we, while we were just saying, well, because I was saying to Bree, I was like, um, I want— if Mr. 97 does— that fridge is getting real fucking loud. Do you want to turn that off?

Tommy: I don't think you can hear it.

Josh: You can't really hear it, but it's just annoying me.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: No, because we mentioned on the show with Leon that Mr. 97 will do some sit-in on the show, on the radio show.

Tommy: Yeah, on the Fee Fee, Feb and Byron.

Josh: Yeah, and so I said to Bree, I was like, I can pick Mason up in the morning so he can make it. I thought if I get up super early, I could pick up Mr. 97. Yeah, take him to Leon's so he gets the whole experience where he goes with Leon. And then Bree's like, wouldn't he just stay? Isn't that a good use case for him staying the night?

Tommy: Mate, there's no staying over. Well, that's what I was fucking staying over.

Josh: How old are you, Mr. 97? Do you think it's—

Tommy: you like it? I was about to call you Michael Jackson.

Josh: That's probably a bit soon. The thing is, but don't you think there's no sleepover, Josh? But isn't there like— it's not a sleepover if you've got a we've got, we've got a 2-bedroom apartment. We, we have it sort of set up, but the point was I was like, oh, we don't have like— I'm like, have we got a blow-up mattress? What's the deal? Have we got anything yet? Have we got one of those sofa things?

Tommy: What you've got to realise too is think about you sleeping over at someone's house. I could imagine you're not really into being into it.

Josh: Yeah, my— like, I don't— I hate sleeping at other people's house. I don't mind being the host.

Tommy: Different though. That's what I'm saying, channel yourself and then think about the experience for someone else. He's got his own bed, he lives 20 minutes down the road.

Josh: That's what we're trying to work out.

Tommy: There's no point. Stop inviting him over. Josh keeps inviting you over to stay over.

Josh: I think you would enjoy it, don't you think?

Mason: Like, you look at it— I don't have a problem staying.

Tommy: It's fucking weird.

Josh: It's not weird. What's weird about it?

Tommy: I don't know, it's just weird.

Josh: Like, but it's—

Mason: Yeah, but you're thinking it like, oh, I'm going for a big sleepover.

Josh: Yeah, I am.

Tommy: That's exactly what he's invited you over to do.

Josh: No, but it's—

Tommy: No, it's like, hey, hot cocoa.

Josh: It's literally It's literally like we are, um, 14. No, we're young professionals, we've got a spare room and we're like, yeah, hey mate, when you're coming in close to the city, just stay out there.

Tommy: He doesn't live that far away, he doesn't live in fucking Flinders, an hour and a half away, an hour away.

Josh: But I think it'd be nice, but I think from a bedroom point of view, we're trying to work out like maybe I'm over-engineering it, but I'm like, I want it to be comfortable for him and that's why I suggested I can pick him up Yeah, take him. Yeah, but it could be good. But the thing is, there's something I do love. Like, the first time I stayed— lived— like, was in an apartment. Yeah, was like bringing my first apartment in Port Melbourne. Yeah, and I loved apartment living. I reckon that young people— it's like primed for young people because you get the city view, you get it, you're in the hustle and bustle.

Tommy: It is great, it is great. But you've had it further out, you've lived a bit further out than Yeah, I was in the burbs, so going from the burbs to inner city living. We had an Airbnb, we can pay cash money for that, dude. It's paying a rent for the week, having someone stay over 2 or 3 nights.

Josh: Do you think you were a good host?

Tommy: Um, yeah, I think, yeah, we definitely put ourselves out to let someone else in. Like, we're staying in on a basically pull-out mattress, so we would give them our room. It'd be super minimal, we wouldn't have anything in the cupboards. It was the smaller room of the two, and so we would be staying in shitty room with all of our stuff in there. And so it was all geared around having— make it— have— letting this person have a great experience. And so that came at the detriment of our backs, lying on— sleeping on the ground on this little mattress thing.

Josh: And are you affected by— because I feel like I don't get that affected by like where I sleep and stuff.

Tommy: No, I'm fine. I can sleep anywhere. Yeah, I can sleep on the ground, on the couch. I'm fine. It's, uh, so I'm not regimented like that, but I just know that a lot of other people are not like—

Josh: Yeah, people get funny, but I could, I could sleep on like— Nayshan and I, when we were traveling, like when we went to, uh, uh, his sister's place in London. Yeah, we're just like, we're fucking in a double bed. Yeah, although sleeping with Mr. Sleep Apnea. Yeah, a little bit like that.

Tommy: When, when we were in New York recently last year. I definitely, I've, as I've got older, become more accustomed to the bed that I do sleep in and feeling.

Josh: Baby needs his king bed.

Tommy: Baby does need a king bed that's nice and soft, medium to firm. But no, I did feel it on that. So I went for, there was a hard, hard-ish bed, but I'd just come off a long flight, so it's like your neck's kind of a bit fucked and then you're sleeping on a, you know, a solid-ish thing. But you know, it wasn't a, but I've never definitely gone, oh, this is fucked. Some people just like, it becomes their world, like it just takes over their mind. Yeah, no, my bed's not right. Yeah, yeah, can't do it. What do you like, mate?

Josh: What sort of beds?

Mason: I don't really mind just anything.

Tommy: Yeah, you'll sleep anywhere.

Mason: My mattress at home is like old as and it's like all soft.

Tommy: Is it? Yeah, it's a waterbed. Is that what you got?

Mason: I do want to try waterbed.

Josh: You know Jill's line?

Tommy: Jill's line, 18, had a waterbed. It's a classic, yeah, classic storey from him.

Josh: It doesn't matter, like I always remember going to friends' houses and you're very concerned that the waterbed would pop. Yeah, I think like you would all, you all want to have a go. It's— but I wonder how that became a thing, like waterbeds, how it became a thing, and how do you fill it up?

Tommy: Well, they come filled up, I'm pretty sure, like they're going to deliver them. It'd be quite heavy. No, they'd have to fill it up. There's like legit niche businesses of just waterbeds, like it's still a thing. Yeah, there is still some creepy water.

Josh: I wonder if it's normal water, if it's like a special type of water.

Tommy: Well, yeah, because you wouldn't want it to go rotten. There'd be— maybe there's some something in there that keeps it.

Josh: But the blue liquid— to close the loop on the Mr. 97 thing, starting over. Yeah, yeah, I see it a little bit like— Bree and I aren't planning on having kids, and it tells me off for calling you a kid. Well, I was just saying Mr. 97's a kid, but it's like our older nephew or something. Yeah, also works for you, or potentially works for us or whatever, but he's like, he's fucking in the hood.

Tommy: We have this massive issue here at the big media company that it's— we don't have an HR department. And there's a difference between just working with two people, so two founders, two directors or whatever, to then bringing on people, to bringing in people from around. And so there is a learning curve.

Josh: Mr. 97, the thing is that it's a personality by personality thing. Mr. 97 is very dialled in. He knows what he likes. He's very particular with things. But there'd be 99% I've never offered a contractor or an employee to stay over.

Tommy: And so why? Why?

Josh: Because he's just like, he's easy. He's just like, I can, it's like, he's very like, I could imagine fucking He closes the door, he's like, it's— yeah, comes over in the morning sometimes, having coffee. It's easy. Yeah, but it's not always. I feel like it wouldn't be easy for everyone. You know what I mean?

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Mason: God.

Tommy: All right, sleepover.

Mason: Did you—

Josh: did you— were you much of a sleepover when you were a kid?

Tommy: Yeah, I had lots of sleepovers.

Josh: Were you the host or were you the—

Tommy: I used to have Karim, my mate, sleep over all the time, a bunch of other kids. I remember going down the street, this kid Redmond lived down the end of the street. We met by throwing rocks at each other across the road. It's like, you know, you get to the end of the street, it's like, Mum's probably told me, do not cross that road. And then I see another kid across the other side of the road, so we're just tormenting each other by throwing rocks at each other.

Josh: So Redmond lived within rock-throwing distance? He lived—

Tommy: I lived within 40 metres of the end of the street that got to, you know, a cross intersection. And then he lived on the other corner. And so we'd be throwing rocks at each other, but then we became buddies and best mates. And he would come over all the time and I'd go and stay at his place. I love sleeping at his place. It was, there was something about as a kid, you know, the pancakes you'd get in the morning, just the different pantry, the different— he had a pool, you know, there's different—

Josh: you're the type of kid to— you, you've even admitted you're the type of kid to go to someone's house and open up the pantry.

Tommy: I open the fridge straight away, see what's happening. What do you got? What do you got for us? Just what, what kind of layout do you have? What are you keeping? You got Big M? Because that wouldn't survive in a house that I lived in. Redmond's house though, I remember, was a household that rose late. Yeah, they, they fucking— their parents would sleep in. His parents would sleep in. My parents were up. Or in the— at your own house, you wake up when you want. Yeah, you don't feel the pressure. But I remember inside me the pressure of having to stay in bed. Didn't want to stay in bed. Yeah, I once—

Josh: waiting—

Tommy: I once pissed myself there.

Josh: Really?

Tommy: Oh, I felt—

Josh: why?

Tommy: I remember I was just that young that I was still wetting the bed. I wet the bed pretty late in life. I had the full alarm system. Mate, Mr. 97 had that too.

Josh: Full-on, yeah. Did you have alarm system? Wait, so how does it work? They sit in your undies?

Tommy: No, no, no, no. So you got your bed, you're in a little single in a bunk bed with my brother, and mum lays out this thing. I remember actually going to pick up It was like a rubber mat that would go underneath at sort of crutch range, so prime wetting the bed spot, and it would then have this cable that ran off. It would have been plugged in. I just remember this alarm system, like it was old school, like the, you know, thing that would be like an old, um, yeah, hitting, hitting.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And so it was like this old analogue fucking alarm system. And as soon as you'd start peeing, you'd— it would go off.

Josh: There would be some sensor that probably feels liquid, or, you know, and then what's more embarrassing, it going off for that, or making it go off and finding out it was just your sweaty balls?

Tommy: Now be happy with sweaty balls, bro. It was tor— it tormented me. Yeah, wetting the bed.

Josh: You'd prefer sweaty balls?

Tommy: I prefer just drippy balls.

Josh: Yeah, sure.

Tommy: And so did you have that same thing, Mr. 97?

Mason: No, I think mine had like a little indicator inside the— inside the pull-up.

Tommy: Inside the what?

Mason: I don't know, like underwear or nappies or whatever.

Tommy: Wow, how old were you?

Josh: I can't remember.

Mason: 16 months. No, Mum was telling me a while ago that it's just like a little indicator and then it goes like an alarm and then it buzzes or something when it detects liquid.

Tommy: Just wakes you up. Yeah, yeah. I remember I had it, I was on the top bunk, my brother was the bottom bunk. It's a real, like, real sort of sore spot for kids. It's hard, man.

Josh: I remember size-wise when the pull-ups were like, wouldn't fit around my waist.

Tommy: Do you remember wearing pull-ups?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Wow, you've got a pretty good memory for your child.

Josh: I didn't drink.

Tommy: No, I wasn't drinking at fucking 7, 8, but like, but 9, but 9 is when I started and I stopped at 31.

Josh: Little Bundy Coke. No, but helps baby go to bed. That's why you're pissing the bed. It's just like you were actually plastered.

Tommy: I wonder why it happened.

Josh: It's a very shit and wee heavy episode today, but just sometimes that happens.

Tommy: It's, it's some big times. I mean, we're all humans, we all go through it, and there's been some seriously hard times for some kids.

Josh: Do you, um, when you were growing up, did you listen to something going to bed? Nah, the radio. Love song dedications?

Tommy: Definitely not. No, I had just a shower radio, an old school thing that would hook over, and used to listen to Matt and Joe— Matt and Tracy.

Josh: Tracy in the shower, you would listen in the shower?

Tommy: It was like a novel thing.

Josh: Do you listen to anything '97s when you go to bed now? Nah, nothing.

Mason: Uh, sometimes like a sleep meditation thing.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, that's—

Mason: yeah, that's rare.

Tommy: Well, I found it odd when we were having a sleepover, it was forced, we'll stay in the same hotel, you and I, Yeah, multiple times you've loved to just put something on to go to bed, a little podcast. Yeah, I mean, it's a little—

Josh: and they're not targeted at you, like the specific things are more for me than—

Tommy: 100%.

Josh: Yeah, but ego is the enemy.

Tommy: I wasn't sort of trying to give you a hint, but didn't you the other night have something on for like 40 minutes and your brother, your brother was there and Bree was there and you were watching it on TV, then you're like, oh, do you guys even watch this?

Josh: Yeah, yeah, no, we weren't sleeping though.

Tommy: Yeah, you weren't sleeping.

Josh: Yeah, no, we're just on the couch and I just watch. Like, I've been going down rabbit holes lately. Yeah, yeah. And so Bree, the best part is when Bree enjoys the rabbit hole. Yeah, of course. She's sort of into it.

Tommy: Was she on her phone?

Josh: No, so she was— she wasn't into it that much, but she's been very good at being into the same things as I'm like. When we're doing a video at the moment on this cyclist and he had this one bit where he mentions Kilmore, I like need a sign of Kilmore.

Tommy: Need a what?

Josh: Need footage of the sign that said Kilmore. Yeah, so we just drove there and she was good. It was like road trip.

Tommy: Supportive partners, mate. It's, um, I don't think we would be doing what we're doing and be allowed to sort of have the dreams that we do without supportive partners.

Josh: Talking supportive partners, Mr. 97, what's the latest on the dating?

Mason: Happening tomorrow.

Tommy: Oh yeah, clap that. It was this one.

Josh: We need to work out the soundboard. It could be like I like that. What, what, uh, can you give us any more details or no? What time?

Mason: Uh, afternoon.

Tommy: All right, just not details about it, just tell us how you're feeling, what's going on. Like, second date, the first one was, you know, yeah, it's bigger than Ben-Hur.

Mason: That's gonna be good, it's gonna be exciting.

Josh: Okay, have you worked out what you're gonna be doing or no?

Mason: Yeah, it's a bit of an active adventure.

Tommy: Oh, active adventure, that's good, that's good, that's good. Fuck, he's good. Yeah, he's real good.

Josh: I was just going for like a long walk.

Tommy: That's nice.

Josh: Walking, I think walking is a great sort of date personally.

Tommy: Oh, location-based, you could, you know, if you're in St Kilda, you can then go for a walk along the beach. It is nice, it's cute.

Josh: You get like little snacks and stuff, very fun.

Tommy: Go do the 1,000 steps, that'd be nice. It's, yeah, you know you're on the right path together if that's what you're both actually into. It'd be weird if you just forced the date. Hey, let's go here. Without even having that conversation.

Josh: Yeah, you need to be aligned. Have you paid Mr. 97 for his eggs yet?

Tommy: No, I haven't. I'll pay you for that today.

Josh: $7.

Tommy: Sorry, buddy, I'll hit you on the old Apple Pay.

Josh: Well, because I was thinking, um, yesterday we went to, uh, Bree's dad's and, um, stepmum's for dinner, and, uh, in the backyard they had rosemary.

Tommy: Oh yeah, there's rosemary everywhere, dude. There's most street corners, like, you could— we could go, I reckon, within 200 meters, we'd find rosemary.

Josh: I got really excited, but got confused between rosemary and dill. Dill is what I really like.

Tommy: Ah yeah, you ain't finding dill.

Josh: Why?

Tommy: That, that often? Because it's like a— it's more niche. Rosemary grows like your back hair out the back, fucking nonstop.

Josh: Gets a real laugh out of that. You think that's really funny?

Tommy: You know what I mean? Yeah, just thick, hard to get rid of.

Josh: Do you even have to shave, 97?

Mason: Barely.

Josh: Yeah, you don't. How often do you shave?

Mason: One, maybe once a week.

Josh: Once a week? Yeah. Is that how many, how many days in is that?

Mason: That's, that's all of last week.

Josh: He's got it. I can't see anything on his face from here.

Tommy: Like, live it up, because this, man, look at this chest hair, bro. Like, when I was your age, 19, yeah, it was like, sure, I used to get rid of most of it because I was a stripper, but it was like serious now.

Josh: Yeah, the back hair is full on.

Tommy: You've, you've basically got back hair goes into your head hair.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And so you've got just a fucking Persian rug from the back of your skull to the bottom of your back.

Josh: Is it worth lasering, do you think, or no?

Tommy: Yeah, definitely. You don't need that shit. What the— what is the purpose?

Josh: Although your hair— we got it. Where were you on Saturday? Uh, cafe. Cafe.

Tommy: Was I in St Kilda?

Josh: Uh, where?

Tommy: Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah. Um, Koch Lane, great cafe in St Kilda if you're ever around.

Josh: Yeah, Koch Lane tagged The Daily Talk Show.

Tommy: But I had my hair— like, my hair is almost long enough to put into a ponytail. It's not close, like a man bun. It's not quite there yet, but I had the top up and the photo is atrocious. I tried to get out of it.

Josh: Have you seen it?

Tommy: No, but it just—

Josh: just look at that. It's just like his hair. I was just like, it's brand damaging, the fact that they tagged The Daily Talk Show. It just doesn't— it, it's full-on.

Tommy: I need to sort that out. It's basically I've got a mullet.

Josh: Yeah, but the thing is, what's worse, a bit of back hair or that?

Tommy: Definitely a bit of back hair, bro. You think back hair looks fucking like you've just given up?

Josh: I think back hair is like—

Tommy: says you're up for a party.

Josh: Mullet and hair stuff feels like it's one.

Tommy: Nah, nah, nah, no way, no way.

Josh: Do you trim your back hair?

Tommy: Definitely, yeah, I trim my back hair. Okay, it's, um, it's one of those jobs you've got to outsource though because it's very hard. I get it, it's not like I feel like an annoyance to Amy when I'm just like, please. But it's what you signed up for. Yeah, it's, uh, our crazy stupid, you know, ambitions and the back hair shaving. That's all I need.

Josh: But the reason I was bringing up the eggs and the rosemary and stuff was I was thinking maybe there's some form of co-op that we could start as a team. Well, now that there's 3 of us, maybe we could all have responsibilities I could grow a herb, you can grow something, 97 can get the cheap eggs.

Tommy: Dude, I fucking struggle to look after myself, let alone grow something. I actually did have a thought. So Mondays we spend the whole entire day, it's only dedicated to it. Yeah, yeah, so we dedicate the full day to the Daily Talk Show even though we do an episode every single day. Monday, no client work, just looking after the Daily Talk Show. But I did think, I know it's not Fat Fridays but we need to be fed. So maybe we could like rotate who cooks for the day on—

Josh: for Monday.

Tommy: Yeah, it's not like essentially we don't show it on the show, but we could just mention what we're— what we've decided to cater for the boys. That'd be nice.

Josh: Yeah, can have Mexican every 3 weeks when Mr. 97's time comes around.

Tommy: Oh yeah, right, he's a one—

Josh: the one dish wonder.

Tommy: One dish wonder. He can take his Mexican Nando's— no, no, nachos. You can put that into a wrap as well, so there's variance to it.

Josh: Um, no, but, uh, 97, would there be— if we were setting up a co-op, we've got plenty of herbs at home.

Mason: You can have some rosemary if you want.

Tommy: I think we might—

Josh: I don't need rosemary.

Mason: I've got to eat some dill.

Josh: If you have dill, dill would be huge.

Mason: Maybe it's time.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, the thing is my parents have got a garden too, so I can steal some shit out of the garden.

Josh: Yeah, but maybe that could be But I feel like if we could all, 'cause herbs can add up.

Mason: What about limes?

Josh: Limes are expensive.

Mason: You can pick them up on the way to work.

Tommy: You found a lot. You know, there was an app, sorry to go off your idea here, Josh. There was an app about fruit trees or like where you could go around and find fruit. So if you need a lemon, like I always used to go, need a lemon, I'd go down here, old Jim, Greek guy, lemon tree coming over the back. Or there was figs across the road.

Josh: Figs are yum.

Tommy: Yeah, figs. The problem with figs are that the birds just absolutely annihilate them if they're any good.

Josh: They're just the most calorically dense fruit, I believe.

Tommy: Why? That's probably— are you just— aren't you talking about when their figs are dried? That's when they're fucked.

Josh: I don't know.

Tommy: Any fruit that dries is dry.

Josh: Can you look at the most calorically dense?

Tommy: I don't think it would be any, because it goes— when you dry it out, it becomes super, super sugary. Same with dates. All of that crap.

Josh: I don't know why. I read it somewhere.

Tommy: Abricots, they're messed up. But there was something where you could go and just, yeah, it didn't actually— I think it flopped, the app. It's probably theft.

Mason: Yeah.

Tommy: Oh, funny story. My mate lives across the road from this block of flats. And so there'd be a driveway down the middle and there's sort of units, not flats, the units that just sort of are either side of the driveway. So there's probably like 8 within this block. And out the front, which was easy, easily accessible by anybody, there was a huge lemon tree, like, just flourishing with lemons dropping off, like, unbelievable.

Josh: Who do you think owns those lemons?

Tommy: Uh, probably, probably the person who owns the front one has the title to the front side. So this is what my mate's dad did, because he's like, I need some lemons, that'd be sick, I could just take some, or I could go and ask.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: So he walks up to that front unit that essentially owns, owns those lemons, owns that land, and said, hey, I was just going to take some, but I thought I'd come and ask, would you mind if I took a few lemons? They said no.

Josh: Really?

Tommy: That's pretty, that's pretty full-on. Like, there's so many lemons. This is not like 4 lemons.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And he's done the right thing. So what did he do? Came back and took every lemon at night. Yeah, but he's like, fuck this person. Yeah, I'm taking every lemon.

Josh: I get it.

Tommy: I mean, it's a bit of a gronk move, but it's pretty rich to not— yeah, well, say you can have a cup.

Josh: Well, it's a status thing, right? Because he was lowering his status to say, here, I'm gonna ask. Yeah. And when the permission's denied, then it's sort of like, well, it's not really up to you, I'll just fucking take it.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah. So I was doing the right thing.

Josh: Did you find anything about the calorically dense Fruit?

Mason: Uh, dried dates and avocados.

Tommy: Dried dates.

Mason: So I don't know where you're really from.

Tommy: Yeah, you're probably thinking about dried figs. Dried figs, anything dried goes full on.

Josh: Blue cheese and figs, delicious. Yeah, love a bit of blue cheese and figs. We had some emails. Oh yeah, so 3D Dills at it again, mate.

Tommy: 3D Dills, you're a bloody legend. It's, um, he's been— well, he took it on himself, which we are so, so thankful of, uh, Dylan. Is a 3D deal designer, 3D deal. This is where the name came from because he works with a program, CAD, or one of the other more elaborate ones that can design 3D stuff.

Josh: And CAD is just the tech, isn't it?

Mason: CAD? Yeah.

Josh: What's CAD stand for?

Mason: Computer Aided Design.

Josh: Computer Aided Design. So CAD.

Tommy: So he's a CAD specialist.

Josh: It's like saying he was using video editing.

Tommy: Ah, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, we're learning here. We're learning here. But what 3D Dill has done, he's gone and designed our squeegee for our Squeegee Cult.

Josh: Yeah, so about start of the year.

Tommy: Yeah, that was when, um, we decided— well, Josh wanted to create a cult. You were thinking a coin. We ended up landing on a squeegee which could go on your keyring. And so 3D Dyl taking upon himself, mate, boys, I got you. I know how to design this shit. I'm going to design it, then we can have it printed. Then he turned out that he bought a 3D printer So he's printed them and he's just sent us a quick update because we're only accepting 20 positions. We've got 5 to start with. So he said, quick update on the Squeegee Cult: 3 squeegees left to print, several iterations completed, primer, bodywork, and sanding process is underway. See the images. Currently ordering some high-quality artist spray paint to give you guys the best finish possible. So he's over in, um, in Canada.

Josh: Yeah, in Toronto, is it?

Tommy: Or so, uh, he said it's snowing. He said it's, it's pretty full-on. She's from Canada.

Josh: Um, let's scroll down to the bottom. Was that his actual location?

Tommy: No, it's just cheers. But he said, yeah, it's, it's, uh, life in the Great White North is going all right. It seems that the snow is back.

Josh: He's coming to Melbourne too, mate.

Tommy: He's coming. He's hand-delivering these things. These things look sick. I don't want to show them yet because it's, it's all a part of the process.

Josh: What I love about it is the size of them. Yeah, because, uh, initially that we were thinking like quite, uh, miniature.

Tommy: Well, that'd snap, I reckon. Like, you gotta think about it, unless they're metal. Yeah, these are real peacocking keyrings.

Josh: These are like the ones that you would, yeah, like you'd use a single— I can't, like, it's a, it's a talking point. Yeah, yeah, it's a It's absolutely in line with the coin that I bought. Yeah, it's got the same sort of, um, uh, yeah, peacocking nature, presence.

Tommy: It's pretty real presence, probably good functionality.

Josh: Yeah, I think you could actually use—

Tommy: definitely, uh, for your sleep apnea.

Josh: Yeah, 3D deal. I do wonder, is the, um, is there any information on the rubberization of the end, or are we not going to add any?

Tommy: Well, I think, I think it's sort of like it just is sleek if you didn't put that in there. I reckon I'd love to see it actually being used on some snow over in Canada. Like, think about it, we don't have snow here unless we drive within winter, you know, a couple of hours away. It'd be good to have us have a few shots.

Josh: So Dill's making— 3D Dill's making 5, is he?

Tommy: I'm not sure.

Josh: I think it must be 5.

Tommy: We've just got— we opened it up, we got 5 people that have landed themselves a lucky keyring.

Josh: But then I think that we could speak to 3D Dill once he's done these ones if there is some way of doing, um, V2. Well, not even V2, Release 2. Yeah, Release 2 where we even speak to a manufacturer and do all that.

Tommy: It could be fun. Scale these ones.

Josh: At what point do we need— I've never heard, like, we've never done it, but you hear people talking about tooling. I like, got to get the tooling done. What's tooling? Tooling is so they get like specific moulds made up and and shit.

Tommy: Ah, to then to be able to go to scale. But I think 3D printers, we don't really print.

Josh: Yeah, absolutely.

Tommy: 3D print, you're just printing, he's prototyping it, he's doing all of that.

Josh: But, um, I'm thinking if we're getting into the 1,000 units in the future, mate, we're gonna buy it.

Tommy: We'll end up buying a 3D printer. Uh, 3D Deer works full-time for big media company in Australia.

Josh: He's our fourth employee.

Tommy: We've actually sponsored him. He's, um, he's got the, the working Visa.

Josh: That's perfect. This is so good. Thank you, 3D Dill. Uh, oh, that's my—

Tommy: see, can we, can we please have an intervention that you need to get that watch gone?

Josh: Yeah, well, I'm not getting it.

Tommy: Film shoots, during the podcast.

Josh: Yeah, it's annoying. At 10 AM every day it goes off. It says midday.

Tommy: What goes off every, every hour?

Josh: I think it thinks it's midnight.

Mason: Why would you want to go at midnight?

Josh: Maybe not, it must be noon.

Mason: Midday.

Josh: Midday, is that a common thing?

Mason: Probably.

Josh: So I need to fix the G-Shock, but the other thing too, have you seen my Apple Watch anywhere?

Tommy: Dude, have you got dementia? You're losing everything.

Josh: Have you seen the Apple Watch?

Tommy: No, I haven't. It'd be on my arm if I had taken it. Well, I thought it could have been a bit of gear.

Josh: I thought, haha, that'd be like you took the Apple Watch. I can't find it anywhere.

Tommy: Well, it'd be good to find it. When you have moved into your house, before you invite Mason to sleep over, find your Apple Watch and get rid of that thing, please.

Josh: Okay, it's, it's, uh, it's a daily talk show. Are we mentioning Craig Harper's thing yet?

Tommy: Oh yeah, so we're locking it in. It should go ahead. I mean, this is the thing, we make a lot of promises.

Josh: Our mate Craig Harper's got a new book, 20 Questions for Humans.

Tommy: Yes, and I thought, well, he was going to come back on the show, and I thought, why don't we go to your space, your office? You've got like this where you hold some little seminars and stuff like that.

Josh: It's like a 30-person venue.

Tommy: Yeah, why don't we do a live show? The boys, and we have Mr. Harps in the middle.

Josh: It'd be funny, like, have you— did you know about this? '97?

Tommy: I haven't told him yet, so I hope you haven't got a date locked in for Saturday.

Josh: Saturday, I think, is when it's happening. You can stay at my place on the Friday. The Daily Talk Show, hi@thedailytalkshow.com if you want to send us an email. Otherwise, tomorrow, Ryan John, yeah, from Perth will be in the studio.

Tommy: Yeah, catch you tomorrow.

Josh: Bye-bye.