- March 29, 2018
The Daily Talk Show — Thursday March 29 (Ep 53) – Josh Janssen & Tommy Jackett. –
It’s Thursday, the day before Good Friday! We say it’s episode 54, but we mean 53. We talk about being sued, private investigators and money, money, money!
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It's the daily talk show everyone. Episode 5454. It's it's confusing because we started on a random day.
If we just started one day earlier, it would have. Yeah.
I think on a lighter
note, one day earlier, it would have been Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday would be 55.
That's what would you look at a new watch?
Well, you know, I wasn't wasn't looking at my watch. I was looking at my bike. He's
reflecting on the good old times. It's fucking good. Looking back specialized. It's like a cross between almost a mountain bike. Attention,
roadblock. It's a cyclocross, they call it a cool cyclocross. cyclocross, yeah. Michael cross cyclocross, yeah. It's, um. Say on the side. I think it says see something. Anyway. Yeah, I bought that off. Hamish Blake,
two years ago, two years ago, the Canadian Canadian guy, but he
and in my mind, and he basically when we I was asked him what bike to buy on over text message. And he said, I was sending him a few links. And I just wanted something real basic that I could just ride around. He's just talking guy. But did you know, he might have had to stay but everything that didn't think it at all. I was literally like, Man, what should I get? I'm a bit stuck. And he was like, man, I can't allow you to be riding any of those shit bikes. And he's like, I've got a bike that I've only
only bought recently. But basically, he got like a deal. Where giant, we're giving him bikes. So he didn't need the specialized one anymore. So we gave me a sick day on basically like, half price than what he paid. How much what do you think it was? 1100 bucks? That's good price. No. Yeah. 11 hundred. Maybe. Yeah. And I think it was 2500 new. Do you own lycra? Yeah. I spent
over $400 on Micra. Have you on said lycra I've worn it what I've taken more photos of me in the like crap I know actually gone on rides with it yeah because when I was getting I was like I thought hang on wait way to these go I put one on Instagram What a pretty was it crashed she was that involved a little bit but basically the reason I was looking at it is I'm trying to work out what to do because it's a fucking good bike and breeze like it's a great bike don't don't sell a thing with
it though for me as a as a mite the kind of bike riding I'd want to do see I want to thrash that a lot more you can't thrash that bike it's quite rigid so it's like still Hot Wheels going up you know God isn't cheap but back to the wheel Don't let it is a
like a road it's not like a road bike it's like a hybrid if it's still you'd fact that but I'm trying to work out whether to sell it or not good race I'll I think Yeah, you'll get for that. Get rid of it by I asked my team on just fucking sign in on this thing. and sell it has been memorabilia. And I think I wrote it enough. I think I could pass it off as
he's sponsored by giant or where he got a deal with them. But inadvertently he's actually done an ad for specialized through our podcast through you through true But no, he I mean, there's a reason why I got giant because this is it was thinking about what we wanted to talk about before and
I just kept coming back to being sued getting sued or suing somebody yeah I think it's a very interesting topic on
do you have you been sued Have you Do you know anyone who's been sued now I've
got friends who have
in different processes of being sued they've been sued yeah I
met de Villa yeah met
at another plug he's got a great podcast by the way I met a fella today he's the guy who directed minimalism a documentary but beyond that he's done a bunch of cool shit including the Envision taco designed disruptors but he when he was like in college did a like a music video parody of a supermarket and it's like them in the supermarket and they had the logos and shit in there and all that so i think it's it's like the equivalent of going into a war words yeah and yeah he sexually provocative and I think they're like pretending to spit in the food or whatever anyway
he had I got a call from the journalist a journalist being like hey just at the courthouse like this company's sewing if like $5 million
The thing about being sued is it's not a quick process no it drags on and I could just imagine the white you'd feel so
you've never been sued no
to a fun story about my uncle now and I've never been to nothing's come up yet
but like imagine the time frame from the moment you get a letter we get to do we get notified because it's not like the cops come in a rescue you know it's clear like your fact yeah you've been arrested you going it's like it's a start yeah it's a battle a slow battle my uncle owns a sports center yeah and they do netball indoor soccer it's had a few years I started working there when I was 13 I worked on Saturday mornings when the netball was on and I would ask
why did you pick netball and this
is where the ground where the Grand Prix Melvin there's a be whether cause pullin okay
and so was imagined sleazy young Tommy jacket with all the net bowlers gas man
How did you What was your role This was back and I was thinking I think about this also food handling we would put the you know the red hot dogs into a big vat of water yeah cool come up and serve him I didn't have food handling thing yeah so as back probably when he didn't have to have these yeah we did like sausage rolls frozen months would whack in get them going pies kill pathogens back I love any food that I can say oh, this was back also when milk drinks were around so like these we'd kind of like not a
fact and refrigerator
refrigerator. But my point is they they they're not in a great deal of venues anymore like funky, sugary milks, whereas they've moved to more protein shakes and maybe a few hippies revenue piece. A piece
of a You mean like be are now iced coffees. I saw ya. Allah says something. What? Am I thinking of Nabis nuts? No
he's not anyway so I worked in this I was folding bibs and you know run it doing run sheets the games and taking payment It was good it's pretty much where I learned how to count
as much as I did in school as in count money like I'd have to do the tail Oh that's cool I got really good at it yeah it's a good skill to what I like 14 I would have now are still been 13 and it's like as soon as you could start working he gave me a job that right 13 bucks an hour that's good anyway so it's the sports center and you know this balls flying everywhere as as as there is at sports centers require balls to play the sport ago I sued him yeah for being hit by a soccer ball good fact fuck off he's the thing though backstory this bloke had also sued a bunch of other people all for stupid shit so the court system knew of him right yeah and so the thing is insurance companies so hes insurance company actually have to fight the lawsuit yeah and so like
I Greg What is it this way funny soccer ball you mean the size isn't it
I Greg what's up I'm just fucking head McDonald's hot chips not too hot let me
back and leap and was shocking fact that's outrageous here go on and so the insurance so basically towards the insurance company will determine whether or not they will fight it based on a band to just be clear though the insurance would come from so
you pay for your Mac but that would be your uncle's insurance yeah so the company that he has it'd be like a liability public liability in QB or what it like or ion or yeah like insurance company but he's because as people I guess we don't have insurance so okay so he's cool so he's basically when they sue someone then it goes through yeah
so they so for whatever damages loss of work yeah inability to you know function you know normally whatever and so they decide whether or not they will pursue it because if there's a case the whole the two strong case that have legal department internally but they decided to go after this guy and in kept like I don't know if they're counter suit him but they fight the charges I actually don't know what happened I know that my uncle nothing happened yeah beyond just them this guy actually a lawsuit but fact may it's like the people that slipper you know go to sleep over in fucking What do you call it?
You know, Joe, who we hung out with a bit today. Her dad is a doctor for insurance stuff. So he'll be in the process. He will basically, you know, people doing dodgy fracking claims and stuff like work cover claims. He deals with all of that sort of stuff. So he will have to go in and work out and you they do fall investigations of people. So they're all um, yeah, people will be fucking limping or whatever. And then they have footage of them being fucking normal. They're based on ice. I just like they do cruising and get a fucking hot dog. It's always like, he's doing something really normal. So it's like, it's not even like, he's trying to fucking do a backflip over a fence now, but it's just like, they catch him the moment he got milk for that. I mean, that's where they it's that because they're fucking suing because they apparently they can't do these normal things. Yeah, yeah. Yeah,
that's right. Yeah. So it's just fucking we're catching this blog app. Yeah.
says he can't go to the shops get a Slurpee I would. I would. I don't know if we've spoken about it before. But the pay I think really interests me I think you'd be a fucking awesome PR I would get like just the the process of like, I tell you why I mentioned your job. Interviewer Yeah, and you're from a recruitment company you're asking I mean some of the things that I would say like I like the reason why I'd be great p i love fucking sitting you know I love sitting the idea of sitting in a car you know I love traffic I've got a story for you okay you
know I've got a story for about a p i believe Agra
anyway, the year so getting to sit around. I like the idea of that being work. Like, I like the idea of just being, like, safely be good to do it with someone else. So. So if you and I were being p eyes where it's like, man got work. Gotta be up at five o'clock. To say this person go and safe. They're like, injured or whatever. Let's go to McAfee beforehand. Get a little fucking hash brown. little coffee from MIT cafe. Just fucking see. It's like winter or whatever. Got the faculty later on backing Fifi seven. Byron on the radio. Just like this all listen, a bit of fucking Joe Rogan or some shit.
You've talked everything other than the work at this point. Both know this is the work it's true. It's because it's not work. You
know? I like the idea was like, I wouldn't hire you. If I was no cuz it was be fucking stealth. And be able to, like, use cameras and shit. So we would be like, sitting around and just you got to make sure the fact of Windows don't follow up. Because you need to be able to see through them.
He's a thing that like, the good ones probably had cancer. Yeah, like a still like rough. Well, then. Yeah, they've been around. So this guy that I had coffee with. I don't want to say his name or any attachments to because he he'll probably hear this somehow. We got fucking filters. Yeah, he was an ex person from like, high up in the military. Yeah, it's great. Copper. Everyone.
He was not in the military. Although he weighs cargo pants. He does. I just didn't have legs.
Anyway, this guy was telling me that coffee that he was a PR. And then he was doing a job for a socialite Melbourne woman who was trying to see their ex husband something. Yeah. And he was telling me about how he legitimately fact and crawls under cars, puts GPS systems on to the car. And he goes to hotel rooms. Yeah, and he puts into the power sockets. Yeah, putting cameras and share correct audio devices. And he's making it
sound like it's real fucking like clever. I don't like crawling on because no camera you're literally putting your arm and like, yeah, it's he's, he's got getting into it. Because he got likes the cell of the story and I get it. I would do the same thing. I think he acquired a set of skills that were good for shaving down people. Winter I spy.com and bought a couple of fun gadgets. No, but seriously, right. The other gadget which would be sick. And I played with one of these at the nav, the National Association of Broadcasters Expo that happens, it's actually happening in like, a month time in Vegas. Yeah, I was there last year. And there's a company that do long range audio. So it's used commonly you'll see used in sporting events and shit. And so just detailed stuff, where if you've got a fucking like ball sports and stuff, and you want to pick up those sounds, you have these, it's like a dish sort of looks like it's like a,
like a cone. satellite. Yeah, and yeah, pointed. And it's like really targeted. So someone could be 50 meters away your point at any point it and you can
really it's really teeny, so you need to, like post processor to make it sound better. Yeah. But, um, yeah, you can use that. And they were they created a product, which was a smaller version. So imagine like a satellite looking thing. And it's aimed at people doing talks. So rather than having them user live, Mike, you basically just have this satellite thing and because you're panning towards where they are, you always get the audio which I think is a bit of a ship. The early
days of inventions are always a bit fucking week. Yeah, because a lot, right, right there. Like, imagine being that dude down or at an event filming and
looks like my easy rig. I mean, not that that's like a weird looking. But that's that fucking thing that I get so many people talking. It's a talking point. It's like a, how would you describe it? What does it look like? So imagine if you put a backpack on, you cast the actual backpack
off. So now you've just got the straps holding the bag on in the back of the back the backpack then they put on like this, this poll that runs up your spine and then curves over? Yeah. And so it's like the
fish that you would like, dangle over you to with a carrot or something. Yeah. So the way the
idea of it is that takes the weight of the camera away from your arms and supports it. Yeah, by holding it above by this dangling rope.
It basically hangs my camera to my face level, and then I can do whatever I want with it on. And But yeah, I get a lot of people talking about. So think Have you ever been an early adopter? Have you seen early stages of stuff early to drones quite early? Not really. Not really a drone into and of consuming approach tumor? So like you got the maverick as soon as it came out, which was good investment. The first the first drone, you know it's class really the first like, super simple dry and I had all those DJ I thought they had the Phantom 323, you know, like the movie. Yeah, I was.
I could be a cowboy and take it everywhere. Yeah, but fact that that did wonders for me. Yeah. So
you've gone off the drone. So you've gone off drones. I remember like, two years ago,
when we were sort of early stages of our business businesses. That was your bread and butter. You were the drone guy. I've made money from using a drone once or twice. Yeah,
I'd make money from using a drone on the other side as a marketing tool. Yeah. And I never thought about it like that. But it also the, I kind of had a break. It was like a period where wasn't really making my own videos. And this was like, when body was being born. I think around that time, but during the but you're you're cheering them. I'm flying the drone before. And I was just I was feeling this stressful. This one point I just was flying my drawing a lot. And in my own radio. Yeah, I think there are great, they're visually great. And, and I'll still continue to use it. But I now enjoy. I think I like making stuff that's not just visual. It's like the story to it to
what's it's a novel thing, right? You're just like, playing you were toying around with the craft. And then once you've done that, it's like, okay, now what? But the other thing too is, you were
you were doing it when there wasn't the sort of spotlight around regulations. Yeah, yeah. So like, I remember flying it with you. And we're like, near the city direct. We can fly here. So yeah, yeah. should be fine. Whereas like, there's no using that as an excuse me? Yeah, yeah,
there's not because of all the apps now telling you where you can fly not and I definitely feel that this can Ed it's on the internet just coming down on people with a footage. Yeah, and just it's just purely because they don't have the balls what we've done, we've done a whole we did a whole episode on the sheriff's feels like such a long time ago, doesn't it that we did one talking about just these different Facebook pages that like beachy Facebook pages that have people who follow the drone rules very strictly and will come down your heart if you if you break those rules. There was another Facebook Page of inter interestingly heard about recently, you know, it was like a feminists Facebook page. Yeah. And the word from my source was that they get they will like, gang up on people on there. If they start saying anything. That's against what they're saying, like the slightest bit, and bully people out of the page. Yeah, really fascinating. Yeah,
so there's like a heap of niche pages, closed groups, that would be very fucking unusual. Yeah, well, I think that it's a, because if there's a feminist page, they're going to get people who are just obviously actively, you know, trying to provoke, but then there's also the light and shade, which is like, what does it mean to be a feminist? And
that's one more angry, like, yeah, the, the people, you say, picketing or like, very, at the front of the movement, with the aggression with a bit of separation, you know, like, it's a ass against them, which is not everybody. Yeah. Who's a feminist? Yeah,
it's just, and that's what we spoke about on like, a previous episode, which is like, I call myself a feminist. Most people I know, do and, you know, I think that it's the Yeah, it's there. There are people in all sides of every single camp that are using different fucking ideologies, or whatever you want to call whole. It said, basically, I don't think ideology is actually the right word. But they using these names as a way of justifying their actions, which aren't necessarily
agreed upon by everyone within those things. That's why I think, you know, people are moving away from calling themselves certain things. That's why I don't like, you know, saying, your left or your right, or this or that, like, I'm just like, I just have my, my views you've even said before about the categories people locked to fish somewhere, and or even from the outside, maybe not even people like to fit some people like to fit someone in somewhere. So makes sense to them? Well, Josh to get these right. He's views are very right. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, I thought it Yeah, I think people will do that. Because it
I think it's a way of taking a complex issue, simplifying it. And we, I think we do that a lot. And I think people can be very dogmatic about those types of things. And I think that it's, it's limiting, it's, it's real, it's what I like to think about is the light and shade and things and that just because someone might be a conservative or this or that there might be, you know, it doesn't mean you can be conservative, but you don't have to be a racist. Yeah, I think that, you know, you know, in the the other the other way around, which is like
you can you can believe in. So, you know, the equality of men and women, you know, but there might be some other things which you think in isolation isn't part of that. But I think that where we've always ended up landing on this sort of thing is, I don't like getting bogged down in certain things, which might it
affect the overall thing that we're trying to do, which is like, yes, there might be, there might be these paradoxes or examples where these things don't necessarily match up, or there might be, there might be a good debate for certain things, but it shouldn't, I don't think come at the expense of the broader thing that we're trying to do, which I think that also it they're the right people to do that for different aspects of things. Are you someone so I want to talk about a few topics and you can tell me whether it's something that you actively talk about or how you feel about it. Politics now, you
know, talk politics, I don't know enough. Yeah, it's one thing I probably steer clear of, because what about money?
Give me some
energy. How do you feel about conversations around money? Do you actually I do yeah, have you I think, you know, we talk about family values and all that sort of thing. I think I've mentioned that to you before where it's like my parents always said to me that by me really nice shoes and they would say if you fucking tell anyone how much they shoes cost? Yeah,
I didn't know that mindset. Yeah, where do you think that came from?
I think it came from this idea which is like you I grew up in an area where not everyone had these things and while that whilst it was something that I could afford it wasn't something that should it wasn't a part of our identity or didn't make me a better person because I have those shoes I was just lucky and I was lucky you know not saying that they're unlucky or anything like that but I think that it um. Yeah it was
it was building empathy it saying just because you've been given the shoes doesn't mean that this is something that everyone gets so just don't trade
show you saying the lesson came through for you. Or you have Ellison did come for See, I didn't have those lessons. But I don't think I like a good shoes and kids go into schools had better shoes and got more staff. And then I was hanging out with kids that had fucking nothing, because they'll pour And so yeah,
I'm tired. I'll give you an example. Like there was kids at school that would The first thing you either kid that moonwalk into school flocking check. Yeah, there was there were kids that you were you'd be like, are you tell your awesome shoes and like, yeah, hundred and 30 bucks, right? Or I remember. And the interesting thing was, I think that this is actually this lower socio economic end is probably more common. I remember one kid who has good friends with he was pretty poor. And he was sort of like, in a sort of
single thing is being brought up with like a single parent type of deal. And his dad would give him like 50 bucks cash for his birthday when he was like, really young was you talking like grade to grade three new get like 50 bucks cash. And that was saying is like, he was like, wait, as kids at the time were like, Fuck, Hey, you got $50 from his debt? Like, how much what is his dad do for work? Like, wait, though, those are really big deal. When in reality,
it's it was
it wasn't coming from a place so yeah, sort of wealth in any of those definition as
a kid, it was who's our CEO, rich people. Oh, this person's rich. Or this person's got a lot of money. Never thought about salaries and never thought about how much people around it was just this guy's rich or they're a millionaire. I remember the millenia or he's million. He's got me know, I laughed. The other day I was watching was millionaires and somebody to show about these millionaires that become homeless for nine days in Melbourne. It was like ABC show it's really cool is like to give them a new perspective. They go out in the streets and, and one of them is like, self made millionaire and they and they had him on He's like, my net worth is probably standing it around 14 million. I laugh because I was like, 14 million.
A million. Right. You you you own a house.
I know. But it's like, that's not rich now reach like who you see on fucking Instagram. They got a $20 million house to have a $20 million house you need $70 million dollars. But also I think it also depends on where you get money
from too Right. Like if you were self made and you didn't come from something like packing a million dollars would feel like for some people reach is owning their own house. Yeah, hundred percent. And there's there's going to be people who who who never get that opportunity that way.
Right. I guess comparison is back in the day. It was called a million dollar millenia. The Millionaire thing was, was a big one away. You still about the billionaire the other the big Bay, you know, the richest person in the world is just quickly would it be Jeff Bezos recommend? Yeah.
Founder of Amazon. Yeah.
That can't has fucking been taken some anti aging excuses. I think I sit on this podcast. Look up. Jeff Bezos. Evolution literally has him back in the IDs. And he looks younger today. Yeah, he's ripped his fucking ball head he looks like Jason Statham he looks weapon looks like a pay I
it looks amazing. Yeah. But no, I think
money's an interesting thing man so as an adult
I don't really have much of an issue talking about money yeah, I but I don't like I don't have money to flaunt. Yeah.
So I don't know what that looks like. When I do have many different how I'll feel. I think it's, I think some people attach their identity toward a lot. Yeah,
man I've just been trying to build on and it's you and I both have a similar mindset of we will make it work, we will make it at some point. And it's just, it's kind of when there's no, that's not even a Kochi thing. But it's like, I haven't worried about the money. It's, yeah, when you have your own business, you can easily leave in a world of fucking, I need dollars, dollars dollars. Well, I mean, that's the and the funny thing about and everyone has a different perception. Yeah,
because, you know, I've told you this before, where it's like, I, I've had $30,000 of debt and being like, up, still got some money, I still can, like, I can still get by. And also thing I feel fine. And there's other people who are like, Man, I've got no money at the moment, Mike, I really need to be careful. And they've got like a deposit for house in the bank. So everyone has a different perception. And I think it's good to I've tweaked stuff now. So it's like, Okay, I have money in the bank. And I want it like, I don't necessarily want to be you know, I was able to finance a lifestyle the lifestyle essentially that I've had since the age of 21 has been funded thanks to banks. But the thing is, and I don't have a house I don't have anything like that. But I feel like the it's given me the ability now on now that I've, I feel like I was paying spending more money than I was earning and I feel like for the first time in the last 12 months of able to have that shift where I'm able to say okay, I
I can put stuff aside and I can have savings and I'm saving for things and the interesting thing is cash feels way different to credit right like you spend it the same way but if you spent if you've if you've got money money in the bank, you know it's like I'm going to have all this money in the bank for when I go away on my trip and I feel like the way that I'm going to spend it like I fucking bank road trips purely on credit cards before right and the way you spend it's like this real disconnected thing but when I'm fucking spending my own money I think I'm going to go like why tighter than what I say I
think you will to to some degree will be his It's
that thing of like, you know, it's even the Gumtree Shin I'm doing and just having cat like, we don't use cash that much any
that much. I tell you, and I've had cash loss. I i've never I think I've ever been paid cash for a job. The only like, I've I've done maybe one Kashi action over to cash in my life. I've done one job when I was doing it for a golfer. And it was a party there was an event I was filming and all that sort of thing. I would have been 20 at the time did I you know, it was like, maybe three grand job but whatever. Anyway, the the golfer who was doing it for came out to me as I thanks my just gave me like a water 15. I'm said thanks so much. It was like 400 bucks. So it's the small one. So a 50s. It was good. And I just remember being like, Fuck, this is huge. Yeah, that was massive. We hope the bigger the business you hope that
you're probably not getting paid in cash. The bigger the business you start doing. No one's coming over with AK cash to hand over. Yeah, thanks for that video, man. Yeah, or I can. They wouldn't do it. Because you'd be feeling like they're fucking parting with too much. Yeah, it'd be like, look at these fucking money. My hand versus accounts department. Just quickly flip that
over. Right. But I was saying to Bray that before the trip
because I like I think it's a it's an interesting one, right? Because I'm comfortable. uncomfortable talking. It's this weird. what's what's, what does everyone call it? humble brag. It's literally like a humble brag that I'm sort of doing, which is like, I didn't have money. And now I'm finally got money. But the thing is, like, it's only been like, I've spent so much of my time not there. And I've told people that like, I've been pretty transparent with it. I've never gone but I've always felt even though I was outside of my means. It never felt like that. For me. I had been treating it like a credit line where it's like, okay, I want to do all these things. And I know that I can elevate my career by if I do all this stuff. It's going to give these opportunities I'm going to be able to do that stuff I hadn't. We went to America Mei, Mei Mei years ago, and he just I remember him just he's just
he's always fucking huffing and puffing around the hotel room. Yeah, but not having any money if I can chill out row. Yeah, I had my credit card. Yeah, but like, I'm not feeling that trip. Yeah. Now, all those years later, and the anxiety and she'd he was feeling Yeah, which he doesn't know. He wouldn't be thinking about that. And he came back and he like, it wasn't bad off well, so it's like,
I always like I remember, you know, going to Europe, I'm a guy like, Oh, fuck, we're
going to have to spend like, five grand on the credit card or stuff like that. It's like, okay, that's like, how many weeks of what like a few weeks of work or, you know, if that it's like, it makes complete fucking sense. And that was when it's a
salary. I think the interesting thing now is now that we're in businesses, we have the, our earning potential goes up significantly,
but also there's that lack of security as well.
So it's you playing with different things. And I think that people that have the willingness to make bigger risks and there's there's good debt and bad
I was just thinking then relationship with money reflecting on your because everyone's different, right? We have, we've heard an insight into yours and a bit of mine. And that's like, you're pretty introspective and you're looking, you know, you're thinking about yourself and your approach and why you think that that is the tool Yeah, that people will need to implement to their own life to go What's my fucking relationship with money? Is it healthy? Yeah. Am I actually telling an absolute bullshit story? Because the story of you and the credit card thing, it was a story of some bullshit. Yeah, and you were Okay, you got through that? Yeah, I imagine the person that does that. And fracking buys a Chanel bag for 10 grand fucking credit
card. And that's the thing that I don't completely understand. Right? So for me, like the biggest purchase that I ever made would have been my Fs seven my camera right which I bought three years ago for you know, 15 grand or whatever, put the whole thing on a credit card and balance transferred and and
that was the tipping point that was like having that for having that for a few months and being like a fact like I should really be using this asset like hitting on deck and beyond just like doing my the work that I was doing like I was working full time I'm like I could be going out and doing jobs with this and making way more and so that debt was what pushed me to actually do it and then it's like fuck it it's makes so much sense so you stretched it did it stretched you I think you're being stretched makes makes a lot of makes a lot of sense. I remember seeing one guy on Facebook saying hey, I just paid off this was like country quite controversial. I think he said, I just paid off this bike motorbike that I bought and my mentor has always told me that I should always be paying something off what should I buy next and he's thing is if you don't have something to pay off What's the point in making money and so his mentor whole thing was even if it's a small loan, always have something so you can have that drive and I think this is mistaken the physical object with a goal
to have a goal Yeah. Set your family up. Or Cindy kids to school. Yeah. And
so you plan it was so I forgot what you said he gayness and Bodie to a what sort of school not even thought about Yeah,
not ever thought of that. Yeah. Well, because it's so quickly
especially in the industry's wearing like, and the funny thing is that you can be in the same role the person who's you can be doing having a radio show and be a multi multi millionaire. And you can be on a radio show with an award wage just kidding enough, right to say, with comedians there I can make there is Jerry Seinfeld and there is fucking Craig living in these parents house doing fucking shows, making fuck money. And,
you know, I think it's, it's a it's a good point to think about where you are financially, but also were like, what are some of the limiting factors that like, the mindset that's maybe limiting your growth, because my thing is that if you if there's something you want to do, and you're like, I can't do it, because I don't have the money
like working out what the what is the benefit, right? If the benefit if it's like, if, if only I had 10 Grand i could do this thing, which would enable this thing then fucking like, if you believe in it, if it's really got the return that you think it has. If I can borrow the 10 Grand i reckon. I think that that's probably an uncommon,
I almost think that that advice for people it's not advice, he just thinking out loud. But I think the people that will go and do it, the people needing to hear that advice, because they will do it 100%. So it's like, if you are doubting doing that severely, it's probably you're not the person to do that. Yeah, there might be another solution that keeps the same result, right? Yeah,
people sell filter. This
has been a episode of money, because being sued is all for money. Yeah, fucking a private investigator makes money every, you know, everything is kind of relating back to money of what we're talking. But
I also think it's probably all those things tied to identity. So it's about, you know, your position in society being sued. What are people worried about? They're worried about that position. What is this going to say publicly about me and about my life was it going to do about my financial standing? Yeah, it's a
I think that a lot of you know, like we
even today hanging out with, you know, someone who is really wealthy and he says, I wish I could do this. I wish I could do that. And the question that you have to ask is why not ended and so much of the time these these raisins or the things that we're giving ourselves as raisins, just little little cushions which we call excuses just to save us from the pain of reflection and realization that there's nothing fucking stopping us and if you can look around and you can see if you can look around and say that there is someone in a lesser position than you financially education wise, whatever it is, and then fucking done it then there is no excuse Yeah, totally the daily talk show everyone Today is Thursday. Tomorrow is Good Friday so we're gonna have to hang out tomorrow which I'm going to loan tomorrow what
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