#903 – Secret Service Secrets/
- November 4, 2020
We chat about feeling tired post lockdown, the US election, Josh’s day of walking, Bodhi and the BMX park, the Secret Service, and social media and their permeating nature.
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show, we discuss:
- Feeling tired in the real world post lockdown
- Josh’s 1 hour of dancing
- The 2020 US Election
- Bodhi and the BMX Park
- Josh’s day of walking
- COVID-19’s Viral Load
- US Secret Service
- Emergency Service Drills
- 14 Secrets of Secret Service Agents
- Joining the Army
- The Citizen App
- Social Media Platforms’ Control Over Small Businesses
- The US Campaign Ad Spend
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Josh Janssen: [00:00:00] Yeah, it's the daily talk show episode at 903
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:08] happy hump day drunks. What's happening. What's going on? How Howie?
Josh Janssen: [00:00:13] I, uh, I'm exhausted. Yeah. The a
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:17] foot-long that you ate two foot long, sent you to the floor
Josh Janssen: [00:00:22] in there. I didn't actually lie down on the floor. We were just recording something that funnily enough, uh, yeah, w we'll recording something remotely where you sort of a directing the client and I'm just, uh, managing the production.
And I had myself on mute. And I noticed that in the course of about a 45 minutes, I farted twice and every single time after doing it, I panicked and I thought, have I muted myself because wouldn't it be annoying, midway through production saying some of them. So I'm farting in the audio.
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:59] I can imagine a few, a few more annoying things that you could get done for mid call, New York times, New York times it was a, who was it?
It was someone, it was someone at a big media outlet that caught masturbating on
Josh Janssen: [00:01:15] camera, which we have spoken about. No, but the social, all the social stuff at the moment. Just being out and about in the real world. I speaking to Tony from one trick, Tony she's done too. I was like my, I think I'm about to have a meltdown.
This is the, I think I'm feeling the most sort of, I don't know if anxious is just exhausted and a bit depressed since all of lockdown. I think this is like I'm, uh, I'm at peak sort of a fragility.
Tommy Jackett: [00:01:48] Well, I think it was, uh, mid locked down. If anything, there was riding high. You remember when you were dancing for an hour a day, what lasted?
Maybe four days, two or three days, but still you were dancing and going home.
Josh Janssen: [00:02:03] Yeah.
Tommy Jackett: [00:02:04] It's been a while
Josh Janssen: [00:02:05] of noxious for people who are struggling in that moment. Fucking Josh Janssen does one more Instagram live where he dances like a fucking idiot. I'm done. Yeah. I mean,
Tommy Jackett: [00:02:17] I got a text message from someone said it was like my brother or something.
Is that what's going on there? Like just curious,
Josh Janssen: [00:02:23] just wanting to know,
Tommy Jackett: [00:02:24] like neither one understand
Josh Janssen: [00:02:26] what's going on.
Tommy Jackett: [00:02:28] Well, you've got, you've got, uh, the, the election happening right now as we speak. Um, you know, I don't know where if you go to different news outlets, you're going to have a different version of who's ahead
Josh Janssen: [00:02:40] sound like, is that the case?
They're all the same numbers
Tommy Jackett: [00:02:46] Trump's coming back right now. Others saying he's clearly head 213 to 118, whatever that means. I don't even understand what this all means. And so I can only. Speak, uh, once it's done to tell you who's winning, who's one. Sorry. And so it's all very confusing, confusing time, scooted Derek.
He seemed worried about the election, highly, highly worried from his house in Coburg or, you know, wherever he is. Preston
Josh Janssen: [00:03:14] know,
Tommy Jackett: [00:03:15] it's, there's a lot of the launch that people are taking on board for themselves in this time that. If they probably decided not to worry about it, it wouldn't, it would be this, you know, that'd be quite light, but that's what media does.
That's what sort of being swamped with stuff. So this, yeah. Yesterday. Beautiful, beautiful, warm day yesterday. Wasn't it?
Josh Janssen: [00:03:37] It was nice.
Tommy Jackett: [00:03:38] And, um, Bernie had a big sleep, not always ideal, but he fell asleep in the car and then brought him inside and then he fell asleep on the couch. And I said, kids tuck it out.
But I did the kid. Just if, if you promise him something, he does not let up.
Josh Janssen: [00:03:55] Just you see that he's I think he's remembered the monster truck I was going to send to you.
Tommy Jackett: [00:03:59] Terry, he's been talking about
Josh Janssen: [00:04:01] really fucking,
Tommy Jackett: [00:04:02] he wants his remote control monster,
Josh Janssen: [00:04:06] as he mentioned, as you said, Josh said. No,
Tommy Jackett: [00:04:09] but he just mentioned that the remote control grave, deacon monster truck.
So you better
Josh Janssen: [00:04:14] come through it? Yeah. Yeah. It's not February, February 14th, not one until his birthday.
Tommy Jackett: [00:04:20] And, um, I did promise him that I take him to the, uh, the dirt jumps, which were locked throughout all of lockdown. Um, And so he woke up and he hasn't asked to go to the dirt jumps in a while. So he woke up first thing that jumps, I was like, mate, let's do it.
Can't it was like 6:00 PM, 6:00 PM. It was light summer. So it's nice and bright. Still took him down to the dirt jumps. About 15 minutes away from our joint
Josh Janssen: [00:04:47] and drive
Tommy Jackett: [00:04:49] 15 minute drive to find a walk in. So I opened the boot to get his bike out. Yeah. And I was like, Oh fuck. Yes. In the boot was some camp Che's that I'd taken to mr.
97, his 21st birthday episode, 900. I thought this is genius. And so I got the camp chair out. And I'm sitting next to the dirt jumps while he's fanging around. Um, I'm looking at the election. I'm just like what's going on and just watching some live videos on YouTube, you know, yesterday it's more confusing than today.
At least they're counting votes at the moment the polls hadn't even opened them, but I was still curious and. Hanging out there. We spent like hours there and body was sweating and he was ready to go home after it. And then I sort of walked over this mound where I didn't realize there was another day sitting there.
He fucking had a camp chair too. And he was on his
Josh Janssen: [00:05:46] phone looking at,
Tommy Jackett: [00:05:48] um, election stuff from the U S
Josh Janssen: [00:05:51] or did you have a challenge?
Tommy Jackett: [00:05:53] Nah, nah, I actually spoke more to his son. His son reminded me a lot of what you would have been like as a kid.
Josh Janssen: [00:06:01] What was he doing?
Tommy Jackett: [00:06:02] Just talk and shit.
Josh Janssen: [00:06:04] What was he saying?
Tommy Jackett: [00:06:06] He was like, Oh, you'd go up to the top of the jump and he'd be like, Oh, so usually I don't have this book.
I've got another book, like just entering into conversation. Just, I mean, breaks down on this one. Yeah. Do you wanna watch me? Can you watch me jump this? And he was like seven and he was just getting me to what it was cute. He was getting me to watch him do jumps and then he came up again. He's like, mate, my birthday next week.
I'm getting a, I just feel like you would have entered into long sort of like threaded combos. He's like next week, my birthday, I'm getting a smaller bite. The 32 inch frame. Usually I could jump from here all the way to the flatbed. And at this point, I'm like, you're absolutely talking out your ass.
Josh Janssen: [00:06:49] Just say,
Tommy Jackett: [00:06:50] no, I was into tape.
I ended up getting up and walking with him to watch him jump this fucking
Josh Janssen: [00:06:55] jump,
Tommy Jackett: [00:06:59] but he just had your vibes all over him. He was cute. He was cute. Very innocent, but it's just, yeah,
Josh Janssen: [00:07:05] it was cute. Annoyingly. We're all the same.
Tommy Jackett: [00:07:08] We're all in the same basket. There's all the parents. They're all sitting around on the camp chair, watching their kid, rod, they bike while looking at the election.
It's tough times.
Josh Janssen: [00:07:15] Yeah. I mean, um, I did more steps and one of my biggest days of steps yesterday, and it's not even the October step. Challenging.
Tommy Jackett: [00:07:27] You want to talk now that you stepped
Josh Janssen: [00:07:28] up because Monda, Dan, how many steps did you do yesterday?
Tommy Jackett: [00:07:34] I'll give you, I'll give you this because you want to, you probably who's winning this month.
Josh Janssen: [00:07:40] How do you find that month?
Tommy Jackett: [00:07:41] You just press month.
Josh Janssen: [00:07:42] Oh yeah, I'm sure. There's day. Yeah. What's the average,
Tommy Jackett: [00:07:45] November average, 4,300
Josh Janssen: [00:07:48] 7,800.
Tommy Jackett: [00:07:50] So you're killing it. You're absolutely killing it. Can you swap across things either? The average for
Josh Janssen: [00:07:57] October, October was, uh, 5,096,
Tommy Jackett: [00:08:04] 5,096. Gotcha.
Josh Janssen: [00:08:06] Gotcha. Uh, but no, I did, uh, walked four.
How many steps? 17,979. Good amount of walking. Big,
Tommy Jackett: [00:08:17] big day steps in.
Josh Janssen: [00:08:19] Yeah, we were hanging out with service in grace and then we'll like, you haven't really seen Melbourne before. Let's go to the, uh, let's walk into walk past the mcg, go to the CBD, get a Janine's favorite at boost juice at Flinders straight, then walk along, go to South bank.
And then we were there. And I was like, we're not that far from port Melbourne doing a walk to port Melbourne, walk to port Melbourne as well. But I just I'm terrible at communicating how long things take, because I said, be walk. I said 20 minutes from like, say by eight, but then as I was walking, I was thinking, I think it took me 45 minutes.
I lived in port Melbourne to go. To, um, to, to Invitae where I used to work in the city.
Tommy Jackett: [00:09:08] Thanks. 15, 20 minutes on a tram, let alone.
Josh Janssen: [00:09:11] I know I don't do track. They were asking though asking a bit, there was a lot of, sort of references of the tram. But I just couldn't bring myself to, um, to go on it.
Tommy Jackett: [00:09:21] And so you there's always the committing, Oh, we're almost there.
We might as well keep going, but once you're there, then you realize that you could have come home and we get home.
Josh Janssen: [00:09:31] We booked an Uber X owl. It's the only way that you can get four people into an Uber at the moment, because you can't just get your standard. Um, Uh, Uber, because you can't read, you can't have someone in the front.
Tommy Jackett: [00:09:49] What is this?
Josh Janssen: [00:09:50] 30 something bucks. It was just like a four wheel drive, but it had a back back, back. As we used to say his kid's backpack. Did you say backpack?
Tommy Jackett: [00:09:58] Get in the back the backpack, the small backseat. Yeah.
Josh Janssen: [00:10:02] And so Brie went in the back back and then we, you know, splitter, split and Uber. Uh, so, so that, so that was nice, but, um, but I'm feeling, definitely feeling it today.
I learned something interesting. Uh, last night when I was watching YouTube COVID right. Do either. Have COVID or you don't have COVID or are there varying levels of having COVID?
Tommy Jackett: [00:10:31] Um, can I lock in C varying levels of
Josh Janssen: [00:10:37] COVID correct. That would be be, I think,
Tommy Jackett: [00:10:41] uh, yeah, I couldn't, I couldn't tell how many you'd gone to.
Josh Janssen: [00:10:44] Yeah. So, Oh yeah. So it's two options. You can either it's the on, off switch or it's a varying amount of COVID.
Tommy Jackett: [00:10:53] Yeah, varying amount, but then which, which he's thrown out the whole time. So that's where they're saying you have X amount of virus, which I don't understand. It's like, did someone do a half sneeze and you only got half of this, or this is
Josh Janssen: [00:11:07] the one, the, the video was saying that, uh, masks are effective because it actually can control him.
Like, even if you get the virus, how much virus you get. But I thought that that was interesting. So what I thought was how, how much, how many symptoms you had, or like how severe your symptoms were, which is based on like your response of the virus versus it's actually to do with how much a virus you have as well.
Tommy Jackett: [00:11:39] And so what, what were you watching as you doing that
Josh Janssen: [00:11:42] cheap video also watched? Uh, so before we went to the city, Uh, and we were just at home in the air con, we were watching, uh, videos of the secret service. A
Tommy Jackett: [00:11:54] lot, some of my favorite, some of my favorite I'm obsessed at the moment, like looking at Trump's Instagram, where he does more of the behind the scenes stuff of like him walking in his plane, or like, I just love the idea of like, what's going on in that plane when he's in a room.
Right. But then there's other people in there that aren't really friends with him. They're probably just. God's but the secret service is fascinating. So even if he doesn't win tomorrow, he still will have secret service assigned to him for quite some time. Did they reveal that in the Docker?
Josh Janssen: [00:12:30] So well, uh, all ex presidents have secret service.
Tommy Jackett: [00:12:34] Not only that, then it varies. It's almost covert. How much secret for group is, do you have,
Josh Janssen: [00:12:39] did you know that there's a Spanish, a water-based secret service team? Really. So if you, if there's anything to do with the water, if the president is on the Lake or, or on a boat, there was a special secret service team that specializes in water based activities, which I thought was interesting.
The other interesting thing. So president going to an event, so you sort of, uh, they work out where the closest hospital is. That's not too crazy, but then. It's uh, the job of the secret service to go to the hospital and under, and, uh, get to know everyone that's at the hospital who's working. So in case of an emergency, they're completely across everyone at the hospital.
Tommy Jackett: [00:13:30] I'm pretty sure there is someone stationed there during the event.
Josh Janssen: [00:13:34] Like there's an agent that stays there.
Tommy Jackett: [00:13:36] It's man.
Josh Janssen: [00:13:37] They, they have, um, others. There's so many things.
Tommy Jackett: [00:13:42] I know you don't like movies, but. Um, London has fallen. It's got giraffe. Bottler. Yes. Yes it is. London has. Yes, it is. London has fallen is there's a few of them.
There's Olympus has fallen, um, and London has fallen. Gerard Butler. Nice action film. It's got Morgan Freeman in it. Um, Aaron Eckhart and, uh, Mo uh, Gerard Butler is a secret service agent, but I was obsessed with it for a while. After watching that, just understanding, like to seeing the security, but then even like looking at how they transport the vehicles, like no wonder the ego of Trump has run rampant.
Like imagine the reality of. You have cars being shipped with you when you're traveling?
Josh Janssen: [00:14:35] Like
Tommy Jackett: [00:14:36] I fucking can't even buy extra luggage. You don't have enough money. He's got it. He's got an armored vehicle on it on some kind of cargo copter.
Josh Janssen: [00:14:47] I mean, they, they stopped doing open air cars like convertibles after JFK.
Oh, I didn't shut my head, but, um, yeah, there was, I learned so many things I've forgotten most of them, but it was interesting.
Tommy Jackett: [00:15:04] Yeah. I learned something, but I forgot that
Josh Janssen: [00:15:07] you learned something, you know, you got to learn all the different exit signs, all of that sort of stuff. He's good. I do enjoy. Uh, the emergence, like it looking at the emergency services, like when I was at the fiber guide, they did a, uh, an anti-terror what'd.
They call it with the anti-terror yeah. Um, drills at, uh, in the, like, uh, the Melbourne central undergrad in, uh, in Melbourne. And so 2:00 AM. All of the police Fierys ambulance. They, they basically ran simulations where they would have fake injured people on the train and they'd have to sort it all out.
You know, I did, I filmed it.
Tommy Jackett: [00:15:58] God. I mean, there's anything. I just like, I like observing. We're not when say when the prison is walking, you're watching real life footage of it. I'm always looking to see what the people are doing around
Josh Janssen: [00:16:12] the site, canned or whatever.
Tommy Jackett: [00:16:14] So what is that? So the fake hand is. That they've actually got their hand jacket on a gun.
Ready to go.
Josh Janssen: [00:16:23] Yeah, that was, there was a secret. There's always the secret service agents that then get into writing a book they end up, you know,
Tommy Jackett: [00:16:31] is it a bit bitchy? Like you're doing the tell all.
Josh Janssen: [00:16:34] Yeah, it does. Yeah. It does seem same, a little bit, um, tacky, but there was a, yeah, there was one guy that was showing how the secret service.
Agents get very good. So imagine when Obama was president and he was going into all these different places and people would be hugging him and things like that. And the secret service agents learn how to remove the people's arms without the president or the person even realizing, which I feel like is slightly hyperbolic because when you say it, they literally just grabbed their arm.
But the way that he sells me in here, it's like that I haven't realized.
Tommy Jackett: [00:17:17] All right. I found 14. Uh, this is called 14 secrets of secret service agents. Right? Number one, they travel with bags of the president's blood for number two, they make sure the prison is never alone, even in the bathroom. All right, come on, mate.
Just fuck it. Just want to take a dump. Number three, they interview potential assassins.
Josh Janssen: [00:17:42] Well, so this is a whole thing. Do you remember Kathy? Uh, Kathy, Kathy Griffin, Kathy Griffin. Uh, the comedian. Yeah. Uh, she had a huge issue because, uh, what did she do? She dressed up, uh, She she, Oh, that's right. So she, she had a severed head of, um, Donald Trump.
Yeah. And, uh, it really fucked with her life. Like she's um,
Tommy Jackett: [00:18:14] after she did it.
Josh Janssen: [00:18:16] Yeah. Uh, th there's a whole like, um, anyone that makes a threat to the president gets investigated.
Tommy Jackett: [00:18:25] That's what they say. Well, it's hard because you're also. The threat was towards the host of the apprentice. And so it's, it's happy cause there's, you know, a bit of column, a bit of column Bay, number four, they can be ordered to protect anyone.
Number five, they filmed the president in case something happens. So like all events. Uh, filmed, um, number six, the food is under constant surveillance. Like I've heard and I've seen, there's like, um, Barack Obama coming into a restaurant and you see like, there's a burger that looks like he's going to eat, but he never ate it.
Josh Janssen: [00:19:00] Yeah. I think you watched the same YouTube doco that I did. Yeah.
Tommy Jackett: [00:19:04] Does he have that? Probably one, a good one. That's racked up a whole bunch of views and it's, uh, this one number seven hotels hate them. When the president travels the secret service kicks into overdrive scouting, hotel destinations in an attempt to control a foreign environment.
Hotel employees will be in contact with the government entourage, uh, subject to background checks. That's right. Yeah.
Josh Janssen: [00:19:27] If you've ever been to jail, if you've got a criminal record, you're asked to stay home. Uh, also they get a, a repair person who, um, like repairs, elevators that are there on site. So if an animal dies midway through, I can get it fixed straight away.
It's a lot of work. Wow.
Tommy Jackett: [00:19:49] Uh, this one, they tend to pick up new hobbies because the president has never, without an escort secret service agents are often forced to learn new hobbies. Um, so for instance, like the running
Josh Janssen: [00:20:01] Donald Trump,
Tommy Jackett: [00:20:04] there's a lot of time by the secret service currently that have spent on a golf course.
Josh Janssen: [00:20:11] good. Fun. I wonder like you and make yourself big. If you're, uh, if they're getting shot, who was the, who was the president that was shot that, uh, Reagan was Reagan shot.
Tommy Jackett: [00:20:26] He didn't die though.
Josh Janssen: [00:20:27] No, he didn't die. And so he, um, so when you, so yeah, 1981, president Ronald Reagan was shot and wounded by John Hinckley, which was interesting because he, the reason why, uh, Hinckley did it was because he'd watched a film where the protagonist was impressed by a guy who did some sort of political crime.
And so anyway, uh, this, this dude was into Jodie foster, the, uh, actress, and he thought that he would impress her. And so he shocked president. And so he didn't actually, um, he's like he served hardly any time, I think, because he was, um, Uh, they thought he was insane.
Tommy Jackett: [00:21:14] It probably was. I mean, you think about it, it, hasn't not that you know of been attempt on any of the previous presidents that we've heard about.
I mean, there's probably been. I mean, there's things like anthrax was sent to the got intercepted, going to the white house recently in Trump's administration. I'm sure there's been a bunch of stuff, but you just, it doesn't serve to help. Like it promotes once people know that they're getting close to doing something, it's almost promoting other people to go
Josh Janssen: [00:21:45] copycats.
I mean, the, the systems and processes that are then developed, like with the Ronald Reagan shooting. What they learned is that you need to keep the limo car door open because so if, if the president is near the limo, you'll see that the protocol is the door is always open. And the reason it is, is because if someone tries to shoot or something like that, there is an easy way to retreat, because I believe that with the, the Reagan.
Uh, the footage, I think I saw that they didn't have it open. And so, you know, you're, um, you're risking valuable minutes there because they're having to open the door.
Tommy Jackett: [00:22:29] What would you, I'd rather be a secret service agent or a Navy seal elite Navy seal.
Josh Janssen: [00:22:36] As in, do I have the physicality that I have now, or I would take time.
Tommy Jackett: [00:22:43] You wouldn't pass? I would nail it.
Josh Janssen: [00:22:46] I mean, the thing is that sometimes you see the classic thing where it's, you have to have had to do the beep test they get in and then they start eating hot dogs. Um, yeah. What would I prefer to be Navy seal seems cooler. The problem with the service secret service is.
I feel like it's secret. And so there would be, you wouldn't necessarily get to talk about it that much. Some of them also seem a bit dorky. Oh, sunglasses. They were dorky.
Tommy Jackett: [00:23:19] Well, I think that I can't, you can't tell them apart. That's that's probably why is
Josh Janssen: [00:23:23] that? What they're doing? The hand a little,
Tommy Jackett: [00:23:27] we'll have a similar vibe.
And so they're all just suits. Is blending in, but you always know, cause they've got their hand up to their face. Just, yeah. I mean, yeah. You'd probably be, you're definitely going to be more likely to be seen as a secret service agent over. I mean, the people that get into it don't want it. Most of them don't go on to talk about it.
Josh Janssen: [00:23:55] I remember I thought about doing something. Years ago, going into the army to do video stuff. Like I think there'll be something interesting in being the internal media of that type of thing. Like even when I was at the fire brigade, I got to do a bit of that going to fire calls or, and I'm definitely, it is my personality.
Think about when the, the fi like, anytime there's sirens, I'm getting my camera out and trying to film something. And I wish that we had that. Um, is it called citizen? I can't remember what the app is in the U S. Where it will geo shows show all the different emergencies that are around.
Tommy Jackett: [00:24:33] And I mean, I was listening to a podcast with the, the founder of it, I think is on this week in tech.
And that app is like allows people to watching
Josh Janssen: [00:24:45] this weekend tech.
Tommy Jackett: [00:24:46] Oh, it was a while ago. I was just, I just want to, I thought, should it listen to this, this plug? And then it was like a recap show and they had, I think the person who founded citizen, who was like an app where in America, you can, if there's a crime, you can report on it in the app.
It sort of pulls all the info. People can start videoing. So if there, there could be like seven angles of this one crime that then screamed. And so there's more evidence. And, and I started, it seems like a good intention and it actually has helped a lot of like a lot of people prove and get police to act in the moment because they see someone like I'm streaming to this.
And then like, Oh fuck, we got to do something here. So it's accountability. But no, it could. I mean, people probably also just use it as a, like a YouTube rabbit hole thing.
Josh Janssen: [00:25:36] It's like, what do we got in the Instagram a little bit more negative if that's possible. I didn't think I did really think this. Um, Facebook, can I, can I talk about this?
I wonder if I'll get in trouble. If Facebook has a completely removed my mate's Facebook ads account completely rubbed. So they rely heavily business on using Facebook ads, just completely delayed it, not giving any rate, like giving no reason. It's like, it is really scary. When you think about how much these platforms.
Have control over local businesses.
Tommy Jackett: [00:26:22] They got you by the gonads. It's I got a message from 'em. Someone who listens to the show and their friend had their Instagram account removed their business, Instagram account. And she's a wedding celebrant coming into the busy season. Weddings are starting to open back up.
That is the business. It's the exact same case as you it's like that is her ability to earn money as a independent, a small, like a small business. And what you're talking about is the bizarre thing is it's like, Hi, we're up for spending money. We want to give you money. You've actually shut off our ability to hand over cash.
And so at that point, they're not worried about a little bit of money from all made over here.
Josh Janssen: [00:27:08] Do you know how much Biden and, uh, uh, Trump have spent on Facebook ads
Tommy Jackett: [00:27:18] in this year, or just like your last three months spreads
Josh Janssen: [00:27:21] or just just this year, year?
Tommy Jackett: [00:27:24] Uh, 10 mill H
Josh Janssen: [00:27:27] a hundred mill H
Tommy Jackett: [00:27:29] hundred million.
Josh Janssen: [00:27:30] Yeah.
So there's something can't this, the other day, there was a great video, uh, by a guy named Noah Kagan. Noah has a site called AppSumo and he did a deconstruction of the different ads. That Joe Biden has done an, an also Donald Trump. You sort of compares them, but there's, I'm just looking at it now because I will check it out.
There's a thing called, uh, the ads library. Do you know about this?
Tommy Jackett: [00:28:01] The ads library on Facebook to see other people's ads that they've
Josh Janssen: [00:28:04] wrote.com/ads/library. So, uh, if you go there. I'm just gonna try it now. I didn't try it. So I've typed in Donald, Donald J. Trump comes up and so you can see a bunch of details there tells you the page name.
Where's the, where's the price. Where's the amount that's spent or they tell you issues. Wow. Cause Facebook, it was, it was interesting. I'm going to try another one. Let's go. Um, It's going to McDonald's
Tommy Jackett: [00:28:41] man. That's a lot of money, a hundred million H
Josh Janssen: [00:28:45] a crazy,
Tommy Jackett: [00:28:46] Oh God. And then that's, that's the big players.
And so then you look at other big players
Josh Janssen: [00:28:52] like, Oh, that's interesting Google. So it doesn't. Um, so in the Australian stuff, it says, uh, This is why I can't say it. I don't think so. McDonald's it says, uh, spending by this page on ads related to social issues, elections or politics, we don't have, uh, aggregate, uh, aggregate spend data for this page in Australia.
Changing this country filter may return different results. Okay. So let's try
Tommy Jackett: [00:29:17] all
Josh Janssen: [00:29:18] S save you go. Uh, and if we have a look. You can see all different ads that McDonald's are running in different places, but what was really fascinating about it was the, uh, it actually shows you where the different, uh, campaigns are being run.
So where their swing States or where, um, you know, they're trying to get more votes. They would be pushing specific ads to those places where they would even. Change up the content in big ways to be very targeted, but it is an interesting, you know, the ad library stuff, I think could be quite interesting as a way of learning about how different brands are marketing.
Tommy Jackett: [00:30:07] Oh yeah. I mean, they're, I'm just so confused by the U S election stuff. So it confusing. Do you think, do you think. Americans are confused as well, other than just understanding that the want to get Trump out for a lot of people. It's not even like it's, there's two things going on. There's the, the don't vote for Trump.
We want anyone, but Trump. And then Biden kind of he's, he's been left by the wayside in terms of what is he actually going to do because it's get all made out at all costs. And so, yeah, this is
Josh Janssen: [00:30:49] very,
Tommy Jackett: [00:30:50] very confusing. This is fun though. Anyway,
Josh Janssen: [00:30:53] the different, um, different ads.
Tommy Jackett: [00:30:56] We should wake up tomorrow, Australian time and there should be a new president, potentially potentially
Josh Janssen: [00:31:01] theater.
It gets very lonely. I play from what they're saying, it could more, more than likely it will take weeks, potentially months. Yeah. So it doesn't have that nice, you know, landing on a decision.
Tommy Jackett: [00:31:19] It's so annoying.
Josh Janssen: [00:31:20] Yeah. So that's not ideal, isn't it?
Tommy Jackett: [00:31:24] Anyway. I mean, there's a few live, live podcasts that we'll be going for three weeks.
Josh Janssen: [00:31:28] You mentioned the Joe Rogan one that one's already finished.
Tommy Jackett: [00:31:31] Let's finish. You already
Josh Janssen: [00:31:32] got over it.
Tommy Jackett: [00:31:34] Yeah, I could imagine. I could imagine
Josh Janssen: [00:31:36] send it to me. Uh, firstname.lastname@example.org. How are you going? How are you going with, uh, if you're in Australia, how are you going with the easing of restrictions? Are you, um, You're feeling anxious.
Like mainly you get feeling a bit stressed. How's um,
Tommy Jackett: [00:31:54] Victoria.
Josh Janssen: [00:31:55] Yeah. What about, uh, in, uh, England? How are you guys going? Let us know. You're entering into lockdown France as well.
Tommy Jackett: [00:32:04] Bunch of different places.
Josh Janssen: [00:32:05] Yeah. Uh, great. All right, well, enjoy the rest of your day, everyone. We'll see you tomorrow. Have a good one.