#432 – Quality & Perfectionism/
- August 22, 2019
We’re back in the studio to chat about perfectionism and quality, finding your voice and being hard on yourself.
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show we discuss:
– Life updates
– Quality, standards and perfectionism
– Finding your voice
– Being hard on yourself
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It's the daily Talk Show Episode 432. What's happening, guys? What's going on? You're getting a haircut.
I got in the car, and my wife was watching one of the videos, the video that I put out yesterday from our time in July where I just got to get a little log star thing. And she said, Kate, you here. And you know, like, my wife has been a supporter of me. She's just completed today. Every single episode ever recorded by the Daily Show. That's a fucking unbelievable effort. I wasn't supportive in her endeavours to do this. I told her not to do it. I said, Please don't surely it can't be good for one's mental health. Exactly. So what did she does every day has she got rebuttal of shit that you've said she's she's closed the loop on a lot of things. She's discovered when we even came up with close the loop you were saying? And then we're working at is it closed?
closed the loop or is it close the loop or a member? So she's what what's interesting is she's actually informed me of all the things I forgotten about of like the stages of building the show. And I just want to say grateful This is we've got the most listeners we've ever had. And it's very nice moment and we're also the most tired and busy that we've ever been at worst shows my biggest audience. Well, that's how you feel anyway. So That's right. That's right feelings on facts, feelings and facts. So but maybe a
good bit maybe. Yeah, so anyway, I think I will cover here. Okay. I wanted to save it for the show. You were quite upset about it when I'm he said, Tommy, he's gonna cut his hair because we're all me. We're on loudspeaker in the car. And then she just works out that as I hang on, that was three days worth of content for you for the show. Exactly. Have it anymore. Now we can try anyway. So I will. Another little life app that I thought I just tried a few things. say if you turn your mic, yeah, little off at the gronk upstairs of the apartment.
where I'm at, I mean, I'm moving out but randomly, I just have gone these are the ones with the cat and the ones that had lab six and the ones that put rubbish in the bucket and you know recycling in the rubbish so knowing Yeah, that gotcha. So they go on and they just vanished like I'm He's like, yeah, they're gone. We never sold them. I just so we've been building storeys out. There's been a blow out your storey in a blow up in the relationship while they were just dating for sex. That's good bait. Yeah, yeah. And then they didn't it's not sustainable and also either as their recycling habits
and and then they weren't paying their rent. And so they got a victim. I mean, that's an obvious one, isn't it? Yeah. But the other stuff it's a it's a real concoction. Was there any notes on the on the front of it? Now there are one of those couples, those people that don't check their mailboxes just full? Yeah, it's
time to have sex every night.
From an admin point of view, they just forget life like oh,
Deal with it when the debt collectors rock up to the door, that kind of vibe I definitely have huge amounts of credit card debt I've actually like impulsive in Sheridan and now it's extremely legal though open mail here in Australia that is not a federal offence yeah look Feds come after me but you can only you can only you can only fucking right return to sender and take it to the mailbox 60 times before you like they don't get the fuck did you do at 60 times we did it so many times. And then I was like this is fact and I look in there there's like hundreds and hundreds of dollars of fines. This poor bugger has just probably it's just I just hope my son I hope I can just
help him understand that you know it's take personal responsibility, you know, anyway, well I've got a my Gov message at the moment.
Besides nothing Yeah, size too small. My theory is if I don't open the mic of message that'd be like it's like
Graham damn so be like he hasn't ready yet
your partner Bry is in the room shaking your head at might say these jokes don't land
in Queens outing I knees reconcile our differences with the agent that she had a bit of a Tandy with with Yeah, I actually when I became in that night, I did feel bad because I think that I was pushing you a little bit on the steamed carpet, and you just like to give push back on most things. It's I get it, but do you also think that it's pretty standard? Like it's a bit of pushback that I'd give to everyone not just you? Yeah. I mean, we've blurred line between life and to end our podcast are you doing a life update now? So yeah, I mean, this is why it is my life. Yeah, to give the exact same pushback. I think that it would have been I was thinking about house I should have just because I just given Tommy a break bows like, I feel like it would have been more boring if I just pretended like you'd like. Yeah, back then.
Yeah, I don't know man don't want you to if you don't agree with something I'm saying I think I'm saying so you were actually right. You don't legally have to get steamed your carpet steamed on exit. Yeah. Which to your point is what's the right thing? And there's the right and there's the legal and the thing that's legal isn't always the morally right thing to do so we can't complain about having carpet that's not that cleaner the new place if you are the exact same gronk to say absolutely. Have to do it. Now. This is plain enough. Yeah, yeah, exactly. What else I notice that steam cleaning it actually smells like the colour purple. depends who you go with. I mean, have you ever done it in your life? Yeah, okay. Yeah, I've seen I had a protein cookie. Sorry, that good. Where I bumped into just like which is a protein Paul. No, I didn't say protein. Paul, I saw.
I kind of came up with another name, but another guy that worked a pro instal that had lots of muscle
But I was at a coffee shop locally bumped into an old school friend of mine. What what coffee shop I use 79 right one around the corner. Lucy go. I was in high school with from, you know 7789 and I left.
But I had this moment you would have hated it. I haven't seen her in 10 years, maybe maybe less, but a long time. And next minute. I'm over there saying hello. She's got headphones on. She was on the phone. I could say I didn't want to be rude. next minute. I've got a headphone in. She's got one in. We're now talking to Josh who was also in high school with us. Sharing sharing your headphones and unlike a pod, not a pods if I like quarter define quarter the fun things. So we're really close.
But I Love Lucy like we've got such great memories. I don't have my time at school with it. And so we're just build this funny thing where we're on a three way call in a coffee shop.
three way calls. Did you ever do three way calls? No, no, no.
That's are fascinating. I certainly had multi person like face times by the time it was a dying man, I did break ups with girls on the three way call. And my mate was on the other line. She didn't know that so fact that amazing.
Yeah, 90 seconds ago Oh, with the idea of calling text. There was some other shit that went down just like, you know, trying to out people. I mean, kids can be so nasty that, you know, like, Hey, what do you think of this person? that literally happened? You Rob, Robert Karen called me. It was coming from Laughlin Clydesdales phone number. And I had to call my allies Josh, and just Rob and then within a few seconds, he's like, so what do you think of Laughlin? We did you know was I had I thought I was a real boss because I had a caller ID Yeah.
Yeah, and Swan knew about this, and I hung up and I called back and I told him what happened. And she picked up the phone and said, if you want to be Josh his friend base friend, otherwise stop calling for a point, Lynn. And so anyway, but I did have when I was a kid, I had Skype. And
it would do like not only no caller ID it would be like an overseas number. Right? Right Way of pranking PK who you met one of my brothers, great friends. One of my mates he worked for this was years ago Gary Vee at the moments bang on about
TechStars text message marketing more than you're banging on about Gary Vee.
I mean, pretty close. But is that what he says about it is it's the open rate of email in 1999. If you had a big email list, it was like fucking huge open rates 90% or whatever. But he's saying that text message makes sense. You check your
texts you haven't ruined text messages I haven't yet I haven't yet emails been completely ruined and text message not so much but when I had my stripping agency yes I had distributed
we use the service impact data see if it's still around missing I seven I'm sure the business name calling back impact I would be around Yeah, I don't have it Yeah, this is what I do marketing software for businesses Yeah. So they had like a back end system but we could we could do mass text message it out and so we do it for the ladies nights like I thought it i mean if if I had my head on straight and I had a nice business, I probably pretty good probably could have made something with it back then. But maybe not maybe that now's the time to be doing that shit because it's I don't know something's changed. I think some of the food places like I think that menu log must pass over Europe. phone number, so you must press confirming something, I'm sure
They're not breaking any sort of privacy law but they
but third wave BBQ in Port Melbourne, there's a there's also like a pizza place. They all just text me now. I mean, it's always when I'm hungry. I was like, Hey, Josh, tonight only 25% off. And I almost Yeah, I traded is like this serendipitous moment and what better order I don't know if my mate was breaking the rules, but I mean you work in the business you take advantage of the technology at hand, but he was texting my brother from God
number and rather than it coming up as a mobile number, Mr. 97. It can come up as a name God. So I mean, my god, they're doing it the same. They're probably using data. I'm sure it's probably come a long way. I think spoofing. There's something else happening at the moment that nother life update, not mine. But I feel like I'm not silly enough to do this or either or that's my thinking right now.
I'm posting this thing on Instagram over the last few days. That is like this long paragraph of text. Funny thing is I've seen it, but I actually read it. So this is Dana White. So Wonder Woman, Gal, Gal, gal Godot. Yeah. Good. Oh, she posted and a bunch of high high tea celebs are doing it. And I'm just thinking, these celebs actually taking the piece and this is all the practical jokers. You've got to know. This is probably nothing.
Yeah, it's it's saying Don't forget tomorrow starts the new Instagram rule where they can use your photos. Don't forget the deadline today. And they basically goes on to say, Instagram does not have my permission to share photos or messages. Yeah, it's pretty outrageous. And so the thinking behind it, I've seen these kind of things before you you put something out. It's basically us signing something signing in. You're taking permission, these which just begun
writing their own contracts and just been a few write this you got to the bottom of it dude and read this like the PU looking through my fucking photos oh
she's scanning through the screen grabs only recently I had a moment the person though yeah because I have actually I try but I know I had a moment the other day where I've seen back Google Photos and there's been many times over the years where I'll screen grab someone especially if they're having a mental breakdown on Instagram go screen grab that shit I've even been on the receiving end of a few and I really appreciate it like being screen grabbed No, no no you
and the best is when I say Did you see that and he's just like screen
and they can get the sort of choose your own adventure. If you want follow someone on our bed and I will create a storey it's dicey.
She's still not following you on Instagram. That's okay.
I didn't take that as a big deal. I think that she probably probably just like, you know what? Being on the radio with you part of her life that she just moved on. She's doing other cool shit. So no comment. But you know, still still her she hasn't hurt me here at you know, but
she follows me. But I have a fear that when I get annoyed I bring it up is like a 40% chance that she's just gonna get sick of it and she's gonna unfollow me. That's gonna be on you. Anyway.
Good job. I understand that but you keep bringing it up. Know what I was thinking about with Google Photos. It does the facial recognition yet you got 40,000 photos in yours? Yeah. Puts everyone's photos together or thinking
say if I spring grabbed a bunch of shit on you. And then for some reason I shared the Google Photos of you can share a specific albums. This person I deal. Yeah. I want you to
Get all the photos from your trip at photos of you. Yeah, I'm going to
share any photo that I've taken of you and then before you know it, you go into why they're all these screen grabs because of the profile pic that would say yeah, yeah. I mean this is a thing yesterday we're talking about that is like incriminating emails and attaching you know someone that you didn't want to name outside. living that life yeah, living like I don't think what you're doing is that it's a screenshot you can build a storey out from it. It's not you saying this person is an absolute if we know so. But living that life is is dangerous. I remember saying I giving my computer to like a repair shop and then going through and saying last time de modified that gone through all my files. I told you about my friend who worked for a big company and he was the tech guy for and the boss was bringing in his computer from home and saying something wrong with it. Am I might have to go through it had to work out was wrong.
Fan porn of the young of his daughter, but he made his daughter daughter had made a porno Yeah, like serious like serious that's not right and it like and he's a lovely guy he's like, Dude I fuck it open that I just oh my god I just had to I just want I just white
like that sorry that is on fire in a corner
pick up my computer drill through hard drives in the late delay delay. I'm feeling a bit down. Yeah, no, it's fine. And I think you do I mean, I guess is it the lunch that brain the fact that I had
so don't don't throw brand to the bus. It was
the lunch. You under the bus? Because you're the girl that is annoyed at the no I'm not annoyed. I just said be kidnapped but I
Appreciate that. But Did I get it right? Is that the thing?
was actually having a
visa for a guy who sometimes self medicate through food.
It's like chocolate. Yeah, Juna is like swallowing the pill that you don't want to take. Well, who's the person recently that couldn't swallow pills that was thinking trip? trip for trade? Yes. I can swallow a pill you can swallow some breather. I was just saying I also made you avocado. That was delicious.
And it was brown rice grains and tonight and it was chilly tuna is actually the
lead with the negativity Bry lead with. And I also went out and I got your marker. Thank you from AU 79 that was Yeah, bring us very good. I actually love one great works from from the office. Okay. I mean, it's the only time you really ate healthfully. Yeah, yeah. It was great to be able to have like something to eat for breakfast. We need that.
We need that meals meals company to cater for the boys. I didn't know what I saw around Friday. What's the big one?
You foods? Yeah instals we know they do free shipping. Next day free shipping. That's pretty good. So you could order to literally I was watching an ad I was watching the bachelor last night. What a horrendous show that is. And yeah, there's the guys like, he was literally like talking to me is like, I just thought about like, what am I going to eat tomorrow? And I just ordered now and it came in the morning. Yeah, I thought that was pretty cool. Great testimony. Yeah, don't you think? Yeah, but I've food fitness. That's what I want to get on. Get involved with them. Just I mean, it's kind of Canada, but I thought I didn't think I like legitimately was taking the piece about the food. I mean, I think that's part I definitely.
Part of it. Well, I just ate it. I didn't even finish it.
took it away from
just left the plate there is about an hour and a half after you yeah given. I mean should we should we do a moment of gratitude My mom always says to me I love when you boys do your gratitude man we could do we normally do it only on a Friday but I'm happy to do it. I mean every we do a show every single day. So it's like, it's not like we have to wait to come back and
I literally had a moment what did I you know, when something goes real? Like I had a technical issue with a video earlier. It's just like, at least please no one's dead. I mean, that's
the but when did you get because you know, I bought this you snowball into it. I think we all do it. When something happens you can easily snowball into negativity, and then it's everything. Everything that's affecting everything annoys you. The food the people message. Hey, you know why it feels
like 97 I love to. I love it to tell us what your mom said about it recently. She wants me to get it done.
Again, that's good. Well as in she not happy with the re growth or I mean, maybe a little bit, but she say anything about the road right now she mentioned the regrets. She's like, oh, but she's gonna have to get it done again. You can have to keep it. I really like it. And that's nice. I mean, you don't pay to live there, which I'm just saying, is she going to pay? Yes.
Not going to Joyce Can
you count it's flying first Josh and I'm going
to me maybe we maybe we could do that. The second follow up is mice trying it at like a like a just here on Victoria straight. There's like a cell on that's just you probably won't understand like you get this language barrier there. And so you're going to navigate that, but I mean, blonde hair. Just take a photo of Bieber. Good figure it up. So anyway, but mom loves it when we do it. We can do gratitude, gratitude, because I think it gets you out like say if you spiralling into negativity me specifically, I think there's two things
So I was reflecting while walking to get a protein cookie on your negative spiral. Yes, I was thinking that on the business. No, I didn't go to mind as
part of your $50
money every fortnight. 50 bucks. Anyway, but then I look up the finances.
You know what do you normally use a fifth? What would 50 bucks go into fortnite I took myself out for breakfast this week. I $9 a 79. Would you have scrambled eggs on toast to coffee's? Good, good batter.
Then what else protein cookie bought some bread, some other little bits and bobs? It's on food.
I got nothing else to do. Yeah. Working that.
You can understand me from my point of view if all you've got is food. Yeah. spiral. spirals.
Meditation has definitely been a mentor. For me.
I was thinking about when's the last
I'm I got in the negative spiral. And I definitely think it's cut the life of them in half or if not three quarters. And so it's it, why to get out of them, but I think the way to get it, it's a good ride and you got out of a base by saying, well,
I went for a walk as well. Did you even say that I went for a walk? You just snuck out. I mean, the hard thing is that when you say I'm going for a walk, everyone's like, are you okay? But when you're in a negative headspace, yeah,
you just you just want to go for a walk. It's
my gratitude is that we are the busy, busiest we've ever been tired, enjoying, I mean, we're energised like we can't, you couldn't do this if you were suffering because we were doing so many show and so we love it. I am appreciative and grateful for this is not the appreciative that I'm grateful for the fact that there is some momentum
Behind the show at the time that were the most busiest because when when it would feel hard and you're like a kicking the dig when you're putting in so much work and it's not paying off and it and it has in the past, I think felt like that. But it's nice when you are at like, capacity of work. And things are great. It's like it's a moment to leave to sort of feel that great gratitude because it's not always like yeah, it's like the dip paycheck buds. Latest long and the short of it. Yeah, talks about the diff. And what's he What's he so I guess I'm the thing is it's like,
like the dip is just part of part of this journey, I guess, to my point, which is
we've had some good stuff and also, I think, but I think the quicker that we're going we're going quite quick. more chances for dips. You have these amazing highs and then do you think the deep I mean, I've called your deep mental illness
I mean, it's a good
VITAS a good storey to tell if you if it helps you get out of it because like I was just in a dip. I mean, all you have severe mental illness, not you someone out there, but do you think it is?
A lack? So the dip right What is it? It's Is it a lack of gratitude for the moment? Or is it a, an energy that has been sucked out of you that you need to rebuild somehow? Is it a is it burnout? What is the dip to you?
To me, not necessarily using this Seth Godin definition which I wouldn't, I would be not as good as articulating people up.
But now I think that the dip is I'm
feeling like a bit depleted and feeling like
especially like you've reached, you may have had some great momentum and what sort of thing but there's a bit of a dip
In energy, but also in I also think it's connected with the external stuff as well. Like I think that that's I think like it's
if we think about when we are feeling good and you know having momentum, it's like when good stuff is happening to you.
Yeah, I think you can feel good when stuff isn't happening to you too. Yeah, exactly. I think that's part of it is it's like can you get to a point where even when she's hitting the fan Yeah, he's got Tick Tock notification blown up.
Have you actually done a tick tock yet? You have done number seven. Anyway, God going? Yeah. Now I just I think
you should, it's like happiness. You got to work out how to be happy when everything's not perfect. Because then when things are working really well, then you can actually enjoy it and be happy. Listen, I seven sets, description. The dip is the long slow slog between starting and mastery, a long slog that's actually a short
Cut because it gets way gets you where you want to go faster than any other path. We can't blame it on this rolling because he's one of the best riders in the world.
Okay, so gratitude wise I'm great. I'm grateful for Bry Yeah, that she came today and she is
when I am like this, even when I'm being an asshole when I even an ass Oh, just like I did. People I realised I can't take the pot, like when your self loathing or not feeling good. There is something that is friction. Like, there is friction when people are nice. Is it the trait of an artist? I mean, I think everyone has a cell effect as an excuse maybe I think that people use that as an excuse. So I but for me, it's like really like the actual, the technical thing that was, which we ended up sorting out and one thing, but at the time, it was like, I don't know if it is, but I mean, I've been there, exact like with editing and things like that, like
I got myself to a point where I didn't think my videos were any good. Like I didn't like it. And so what is that? So is that truth? Or is that just negative spiral? And so I think some people get stuck in there. It's also like a standard maybe like you have a certain standard you communicate. Creative though right there the one like I think high achievers, usually up skilling and then new norm, trying to do better is still at this level, but they will. But two weeks ago, they were down here or a month or a year. And so perspective on these things. I think that part of it like the storytelling, right, so it's like, you charge a certain amount to someone and you've told a storey that I bring x y and Zed and if you feel like you haven't delivered or whatever, then I think that then you like you can internalise it hot thing is though, that is the game. Yeah, that's the game. thing. Great not not to mention Gary Vee again. And he was literally
The other day I got you back on him it was literally talking the other day which I thought was so counterintuitive he's like people are too obsessed with quality
is that quality is a storey, which I think is interesting. If If his client if you're one of his clients, is that a good message I don't I qualities his storey. Then what is the thing? He I think he would say the attention because
there is pork. So what is quality, quality subjective
quality, like for instance, us doing it, we want to do a podcast workshop. The restriction at the moment is we want to make sure it's at a certain standard or quality before we do it. There's a bunch of people who aren't doing a podcast today because they're like, I needed to be certain quality. Whereas the funny thing is, maybe this is part of it. When we were doing the podcast at the beginning there was no expectation. Like we were just doing it and so there was even times where it was like I was in Queensland or whatever and we couldn't get out.
technology to work. So I just did it over like a shitty phone call. That's right. And it was like, because I felt like I wasn't as attached to the storey. But that I think that of quality but I think there was an argument
that maybe you don't need to like if you're a cinematographer, right if that's all you did, like we are more generalist, we do heaps of stuff, but if you're a cinematographer, yeah, and you are pride yourselves self on being one of the best cinematographers in the world, if you film something, and the exposures fact, like, that's a pretty big deal because you've attached yourself to the craft, and you haven't done the craft that well. I think some of my best wins have come and I've and I've, I find that there is a leap in having a business and and doing great content that you that you need to make to get out of this and that thing is
the naive at the I don't
Have to do this for anyone other than myself. So if it all goes to shit, it doesn't really matter. You know, one of the things that we work with barefoot barefoot investor and he's loved my personal content from the get go. It's it I think, you know, the draw card, why he wants to work with me and you and us. And there is a fantasy This was Hey, maybe just maybe I get that. But
when I go out and do these videos, and I've had a few go viral and people have been contacted me Do what you did for you. For us. It's like, it's actually next to impossible to do that. Other than if you asked me just make a video and then come give it to me and I won't say anything. I'll give you all this money. That is the only way to do that. Because there is you know, when I made that over fishing video, I literally I was tired. I didn't want to fucking do it. And I was I actually ended up having fun. I took six cameras. It's kind of like was, you know, a bit of like I didn't have much pressure on it.
Part of it is like you worked out what you valued in that moment, but I didn't care for anyone else and it didn't ride on Yes, but that's where I met. So the heart of it is, it's like you your values were x, y and Zed, right? Your values were, I want to do a great job of talking to camera and presenting this bit, and then making sure I get really good angles. But exposure or sound or whatever it is, might not necessarily might not necessarily be putting, like, that's just the wives serving your overall value. But there's, I guess that's what makes us individuals, right. Like, I think telling the person who is an absolute perfectionist and spends all their time
you know, like, working out the exact angle of a shot so the horizon is exactly straight, telling them
telling them Don't worry about that like yeah, oh Jordan post or whatever. Like, I think that
Makes a lot of rational sense. But it's also if that's not in line with their values if their value easy. One of the considerations, one of the things I care about is that that can I think that's the difference between
being a, like a good artist or great awesome.
Think about what like it's a, it's like fitness. It's like assigning a routine or an approach to somebody that is just cookie cutter. It's not designed for them. And if that's not working for you, if you are a perfectionist, and
you still haven't
found success for yourself in some metric, maybe it's not the right approach because I get that right and I think I've become more of the
making bigger promises and then there are external to myself. So there actually is a in a business, someone pays there's a lot of money. We're actually just lying down a series of promises that we will hit that they
is why we get that cash? Old, you know? Yeah. But yeah, so we make up a promise and then we deliver on it. And that's what we pride ourselves on. So we almost over deliver, that's what you should
you should try and over deliver. So you're exceeding expectations. But the point being around the perfection thing. I don't like you. I'm not I guess I'm not debating perfectionism. I'm not necessarily I think I've moved more and more away from perfectionism.
Like I don't say I'm a perfectionist, I'm just like, I think that like doing a podcast doing all this sort of thing, seven days a week, you can't be a perfectionist. But I think that there is certain values that individuals have, which we can't discredit because that's actually their unique experience and what makes them them. So for instance, you might fumble want to be presenting to camera and that might be the thing that actually
annoys you way more than a shot that's exposed incorrectly. And so the thing is that's coming from your experiences, which is, I've been trained, I've, you know, I've gone to training for presenting, I've done this and that and I just didn't, I haven't even said where we are. And so I think that that's an interesting part. like everyone's got a different thing. I've all I've made it a practice to push back on my moments where I have had that you're probably pushing back but you already have the standards.
So I built a standard and so but but then how does anyone get the information? Or the the guidance or advice from somebody? Well, I guess here's the question What makes you you what makes me me? What makes deal deal what makes nice nice, so I was thinking about you know, a lot of people say find, find your voice is a filmmaker, find your voices, artist, whatever and be you know, as a salesperson, whatever
What does that mean? I've always thought how do you find your voice? It's like, I think what it is, how do you be you and be comfortable being new? That's been the thing for me, right? I've worked I've
I know when I've felt like it's been my flavour or my style is when I've been me and, and not judged myself extremely or I felt comfortable. So being in front of camera, I felt like I've become myself more so when I have been able to not feel those feelings around how I look how, like how sound, it's like, now just connect with what I'm involved in all the moment. So what is that? What do you think when you're creating something? What do you care about now? And
so, that little video yesterday that I made? I just I enjoy like, I think it's I think it's a strength. I've been through multiple things right? I've killed like for client work. I care about how it looks and I've got
I think I've got a great standard. And, and so, but I'm but I don't see myself trying to extend from a cinematography lens, in a cinematography point of view of trying to make it even more cinematic or epic. I feel like I've got that to a point and unlike, you know, storeys are, you know, one that I focused on for a period of time. So I have been through versions where I'm like, it's only about storey and I've thrown video out. I've just captured what I can with what I've got. And so I guess the interesting thing is if you deconstruct it, what is what is storey and how you telling storey?
Because part of it is it's like
a good cinematographer. You could argue
you have to be good at like you've got the, the Okay, I need to expose correctly and how to frame it right and all that sort of thing. Does that that's a camera to me. That's a camera operator. A cinematographer
Ease, or maybe a filmmaker or whatever is like ease by design, taking the elements and making it a storey I think everything is like, a storey is part of it. Not feeling out of my depth on every level
is when I feel like I can be myself. And that's so that's a progression that that has taken years for me in terms of the film, the actual technical side, the editing side, the being on camera side, the thinking about what would resonate with somebody what is interesting to other people, I'm talking specifically for me, but even think about when I was a young guy, and being in conversation, just the sort of ego like the thought about what I was, you know, thinking about how I am and how I'm how I you know, how I'm coming across, like, you know, wanting to be perfect or whatever it is right. And so
Maybe. So how do you get there? Right? It's like going through feeling all those things like actually doing all you have to do it. I think like you have to show up to get your workout what your voices. So that's the get someone says find your voice. It's like, well, that's a huge, so but there is something. So you have to constantly be doing that. And so then you just switching up your values and saying, Okay, this is what's important, this is what's important. And so then, if part of the quality that you bring to something is that you write in a certain way. So you're a rideshare. And it's like,
you know, you've got a certain standard. If all of a sudden you say it's a doorbell.
If you if all of a sudden you send out something to the world where you're like, I don't know if that's, that's not completely up to the standard. I wonder if that has the same effect on the audience side of things. Yeah. But then I also have tested that for myself.
Self personally, and I've always been blown away at what isn't picked up and how great Some people think stuff is. And I'm like, well, then it just challenges. My thinking. For me personally, I'm just like, I want maybe that decent. Maybe I was too hard on myself. Yeah, because there's a reality of high achievers wanting to hard on themselves. And I think you are very fucking hard on yourself, dude. Like I am too. Yeah. Yeah, there's nothing negative about I'm just saying it's just, it is what it is. Yeah. Which is hard because you but then it gets reinforced because people say I love that you do X, Y and Zed and you're like, Okay, the reason why I do X, Y and Zed is because that's a standard and I'm hard on myself. Yeah, but again, the game the game is your up for playing and not not everything being perfect and not things always going wrong. And so you do if you fucked up.
It's like the fitness thing. What is the fuck up? How bad is it? What's the level of it? asked me
people around you that you trust all these things I think that's how you gauge it right? I don't think
just being in your head about it and you coming out with it is necessarily the right way. I think external I think having having another perspective someone outside you, but I think the other thing too is it's okay to feel shit sometimes. Yeah, I think that's probably maybe part of it which can sometimes be missed is what makes things worse is people feeling bad about like, like if something's happened, I don't feel good about it. And the the pressure around is feel better. Yeah, I feel better. Something my wife Amy's taught me is put, can you check the mic to my wife? Thank you.
Remember how I used to not? I don't want thing. It's almost like my son. Bodie. When he's like, when you sign up emotion we get upset, right? We get upset at him and he daddy happy but I'm actually a bit upset.
It's like he wants the instant back to the good feeling and remember early days I used to up right like I want to get you out of it because it actually is making it so selfish because I'm feeling uncomfortable at that moment was I'm what was I like that? Yeah, you still are a bit but I definitely need just take the mic off.
But definitely more conscious button. I think you you hated me being in pain. So you would tell me that I wasn't so that Yeah, you didn't have to deal I guess with me being hurt.
which then makes it probably worse.
Not an antidote. Part of it. I reckon it's maybe it's a bit of this in the woke generation that we all are. If you're listening, you're probably like, you know what Josh needs to do is meditate. He needs to go for a walk. He needs to make sure 90 sevens already told me that if I am 10% de Hydra what 50% dehydration dehydrated 2% Dr. Dre is 10% lyst performance I have less a 10% less physical perform
And sorry he was saying because I was so dehydrated yesterday that I was probably a 50%
but I think I understand is accepting this advice is the time to give it is not the moment where they like fucking are. That's not the time but the reality of the things like the 2% more you know the metadata like all these things actually get us out of pain faster and so it's not the right time I don't think to ever and that's why I wasn't saying to you out there if I can put your head in your right yeah, I was trying to say look there I think it's actually trying to like switch your perspective around like yeah, it's not that bad. It's all good, awesome thing. I don't know how positive it is to buy into your negativity. I don't know. I don't know if it's a bit I wonder what the outcome is like I wonder what the right way of doing it in fact with you like if I was to jump my know that well the thing is that you because the thing is that safe something I'm willing to do radical thing as
way of being like, and I felt like I could have radical ownership. Like if this was me solo my business. My approach would be, I would be like, you know what, based on this back up, I am going to put me in a difficult position, whether it be financially, whatever it is and say x, y and Zed. Hi, I'm a bit of thing is that you can't do that because it's like, like, yeah, money that I'm throwing out or whatever, if I'm too generous. My thing is like, you know what, like, if I back up, the way that I can make myself feel better, is being extremely generous. The problem is that generosity that I do now actually affects all of us. So if I started saying to every single person in the straight come from just sleep at our office, that's going to affect you as well. Never let anyone do that. But yeah.
But then also sleeping on it. There's the moment there's the heat of something. And then there's the take a breath or the that's a nice dinner. Yeah.
It's a an idea that I had had to launch it just I happen to be tuna
salad which you probably would have slipped into a food coma if you had a bloody Kimmy jack Yeah, it would have been old down he'll
use use it. You don't want a business partner.
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Today talk show Hi, the daily talk. show.com Do we have any emails? I just want to thank also Kylie Eddie, she sent us a lovely,
lovely car. And inside was a bunch of traits and those traits are some tickets to go and see the Australian dream which could just quick when me remember that. So this is one this is a pass. It's a it's a card. It's a admit, you know, NFP, no free passes. I don't think they were. So I thought I thought that this was one ticket to one card one ticket, Mr. 97 says oh, oh my god.
admit to you nice
Seven was very excited. I'm so excited. And then it made me think about that time that we went to the drive in cinemas on one of our first dates sweetheart. What you did? Yeah. You bought two tickets, but the tickets were calm, and we're going in the same
separate house. My I flew to Sydney for this diet. And it was amazing, but also so upset for her that she did that, you know, when you're like, ah, like, I felt the pain of the money that she'd spent on it. I think it ruined it more for you than for me. I was like, oh, silly, and you would
tell me meditate, meditate.
Anyway, go do some meditation everyone. I have found really helpful. I've been very good at like writing.
Writing down Should I need to do I know we have a sauna and everything? No, no. Literally like a notepad. Each evening, I've been like, Okay, this is what I need to do tomorrow. And then it's just like
Okay, I can go back to that. Here's a few things to write down for tomorrow. I have my pen and paper Bry actually asked me something as I was going to bed tonight, Rosa. She's very focused on work anyway, so write this down. Go. Yes, metaphorically. Okay.
need me to do it? Oh, nice. Nice. Okay, yeah, go to Sedona in Richmond. Do a fat Friday's episode with a bunch of gronk this is actually happening. Taste lots. Lots of Greek yummy food. Yummy Greek food. Yeah. And have fun. Sounds so that's for tomorrow. That's what we're doing. Okay. I don't think I'll forget that. No, I don't think I will ever to daily talk show. Do we have any emails? So we've got one from Tim.
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Actually, I saw someone today with to to keep tabs to not had mine and she looked I forgot the joke anyway because I thought the guy who took the cups name was
Tim, Tommy, Tommy anyway, but now it's No, I mean gronk is going to come out whenever anytime is in the fray. Yeah.
It's literally why when Mad Max so JNJYG do their promos was like free burrito day? Yeah, the last place that I want to be is lining up your domain. It goes Oh, yeah, it's
the wrong one as well. Yeah.
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