The Master At The Lights With Richard Janssen

Richard: The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 617. Clap the great man in, Richard Jansen.

Richard: Joshie guys, thank you.

Josh: Master at the lights.

Richard: Oh, what a load of bullshit.

Tommy: That's, that's what he calls you when you're not around, Richard.

Richard: Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: Why is there any truth to it?

Richard: Truth to what?

Tommy: That you are the master at the lights.

Richard: Oh, might have been 20 years ago or 30 years ago.

Tommy: Did you have any other nick— did you have any nicknames?

Richard: Uh, yeah.

Tommy: Well, tell me them.

Josh: Well, his nickname's his password, unless you've changed— have you updated that?

Richard: Yeah.

Tommy: That sounded dishonest.

Richard: He hasn't. No, I'm not going to say that one.

Tommy: It's pretty easy to find someone's password. Social engineering.

Richard: Yeah, probably is.

Tommy: Yeah, look at your kids, look at your dogs. Exactly. And so what was your nickname other than the password? But don't tell us that one. Dick.

Josh: Dick for Richard.

Richard: Richard.

Tommy: How do you extrapolate dick out of Richard? I've always wondered.

Richard: Well, most of us are Wales. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, I don't know, it's a British thing, isn't it?

Tommy: Yeah, well, can we look that up? How do you get dick from Richard?

Richard: I don't know, just ask. Just ask. Ask your Martin Tosh. The boys.

Josh: Lynn's spewing she couldn't be here. We've got on the couch, we've got Happy Harry and Dodge.

George: What's up, guys?

Josh: Hello. I forgot about George's nickname. He's got a nickname now, Dodge.

Tommy: I love Dodge.

Josh: It'll take a while for it to stick.

Richard: Dodge is pretty good.

Tommy: Yeah, it has nothing to do with cars. That's what you're thinking, aren't you?

Richard: No, well, he could be a dodgy bastard.

Tommy: That's exactly right. He is a dodgy bastard and happy.

Josh: Happy bastard. Yeah, but not on Sundays. This ep's coming out on Sundays.

George: Oh, I'm shitty Harry today. But I feel like those two Muppets, you know, two Muppets that shout abuse because me and George are on the couch next to each other and feels like those two Muppets that shout abuse from the balconies.

Richard: As a compliment, I think you look like them too.

Josh: What were you saying on the way? You were going to tell me some news or something when we're going up the stairs. What was that about? I can't even remember.

George: Oh, the giant potatoes for sale.

Tommy: Oh, I did see that. Yeah, does it come with the land?

George: Yeah, I think so, in a veggie shop or something.

Tommy: So you're buying the business, you're buying the land. It's a landmark in Australia. Not that I knew it was. The giant potato was for sale. Never heard of it. Giant banana is probably the most famous one in Australia, you reckon?

Josh: Pineapple.

Richard: Pineapple.

Tommy: Pineapple.

Richard: Big koala.

Tommy: Yeah, the big banana though, Coffs Harbour.

George: What's the one at Cobram?

Josh: Um, Cobram, koala, I reckon.

Tommy: No, no, we did the tomato, the strawberry. That's, um, uh, Catandra. No, so, uh, we did it, did an episode from there, remember? Yeah, it's up that way.

Josh: Uh, talking news, there was some big motorsport news, which is one of the reasons why we've gotten you on.

Tommy: I mean, there's many more reasons than that, but that was good timing.

Josh: Good timing.

Tommy: Very appropriate timing for someone that is a, uh, what do you call yourself, a carman? A car man?

Richard: Yeah, I'm a car man.

Josh: Um, do you like Holden?

Richard: I, you know, I grew up with Holden, and, uh, what you're alluding to is a really, really sad day for Australian heritage, really.

Tommy: Is it?

Richard: Oh, absolutely.

Tommy: Why? For someone that isn't connected in any way other than getting in an Uber or driving their own shitbox.

Richard: So I suppose Holden was the first really truly Australian car manufacturer. Um, you know, they started in the, um, the 1850s as a saddlery company and, um, went to the, the 20s, mid-20s when they started building cars for, um, for Chevrolet under the Holden brand. Using a chassis and made all their own bodies here in Australia. And World War II got in the way later on, and then after the war, um, you know, the FX was born in 1948. So, and that was, um, a really impetus part of, um, the Australian motoring heritage, really.

Tommy: And what grew and grew and You know, I mean, most young families back in the day probably drove Holdens. We had like a VL wagon, VK wagon. My first car was a VL. Yeah, VL Commodore. What was your first car, Richard?

Richard: First car I owned was a HR.

Tommy: Not the one you stole, mate.

Richard: Oh, well, I used to drive my mother's car all the time, as you do when you're younger.

Tommy: Yeah.

Richard: So, yeah, the first car I had was a HR Holden. But it was actually a custom car. It was a convertible that was modified by a gentleman who was a design guy at GM, and his name was Jerry Sweeting. And he had it built by a guy called Dale Fisher in about 1971, so it was only about 3 years old when it was, was actually built. And yeah, it was a great car. You know, I had that.

Josh: What was the modification?

Richard: They took the roof off.

Josh: So it was the convertible bit. It wasn't meant to be a convertible.

Richard: No, they're not a convertible car. They're a four-door car.

Josh: Like a soft top or what was a soft top?

Richard: Yeah.

Josh: Yeah.

Richard: And, and it was pretty much started out from as a utility, HR utility. And so like a ute.

Josh: Is that what you're talking about?

Richard: Yeah, ute. Yeah, yeah.

Josh: So did it have a tray on the back?

Richard: No, they— what they did was they were a bit, uh, it was a bit strange because it, uh, it had a bonnet on the boot as well as the front. So, you know, two engines? No, no, I wish it did, you know, but, uh, it, uh, it was quite an interesting car. It was a, it was a classic custom for its time in the '70s.

Tommy: So, so you're a bit of a convertible guy as well because you've got the— what's the car that you have there?

Richard: A '68 Impala. Chevy Impala.

Tommy: It's very impressive.

Josh: And yeah, so what's the relationship with Chevy and Holden then in regard— through the eyes of being an Australian? Because I remember growing up and we had the SS, the Holden SS Commodore, the Tiger color, which was a big deal. We're the only ones. How many— like, we're one of the first to have it in Victoria, were we?

Richard: It was one of the first 50 that came into the country. Yeah.

Josh: And so we had that, but, um, we talked a lot about changing the Holden badge for a Chev badge. Controversial this week, obviously.

Richard: Yeah, yeah. And I suppose nowadays, you know, we were having a bit of a joke at work saying, oh, now everyone's going to put Holden badges on their Chevs.

Josh: Yeah. Where did the Holden logo come from? Is that a lion? What is it?

Richard: Lion? Yeah. I'm not sure the actual true meaning of where it came from. But it was, you know, Holden was a derivative of or a subcompany of General Motors.

Tommy: So I keep laughing about how I asked, how you get Dick from Richard?

Josh: I didn't think about it like that.

Tommy: I keep cackling to myself, but I want to find out.

E: When it comes— when I Google it, it comes up with Richard, Rick, then Dick.

Richard: So it just comes from Rick.

Tommy: Rick.

Josh: Ah, that makes sense.

Tommy: Rick, Dick. Got it.

Josh: So I mean, because it is— because Peter Brock, you loved like following him. Yeah, yeah.

Richard: Peter Brock was just, um, he was the epitome of anything that had to do with Holden. He was a brilliant driver and probably one of the best that's ever, ever been around in, uh, in Australian motorsport, really. He's a legend.

Tommy: Did he die in his prime time? It was after his—

Richard: it was after his prime, but he was still You know, like once a good steerer, always a good steerer.

Tommy: That's what I say every day on the daily.

Josh: And so, and you even when you were, you got the nickname Master of the Lights.

Richard: But it really wasn't.

Josh: Well, it was on VHS. We used to play the tape constantly where it was like you. What car was that?

Richard: That was my roadster, a Chevy Roadster hot rod. Yeah. Yeah.

Josh: And so you had a Yeah, you had the Roadster and then you drag raced like a Statesman.

Richard: Yeah, Statesman. So Holden, which is a bit—

Josh: it's like looking back, that's pretty bogan, isn't it? Like the Statesman turning a Statesman into a dragster, to a drag car.

Tommy: Because like there's something about putting like a car that almost looks a bit stocky and shouldn't be there but can rip everybody. Is that the idea?

Richard: No, it wasn't really. It was It was really just a case of circumstances because, um, the gentleman at, um, in spare parts at GM at the time had a mule car. A mule car is one that they use for engineering development, and that was a mule car for— it was actually interior development at the time. And they'd finished with it and they said, well, you want it to convert into a drag car?

Tommy: So you changed up the engine and everything?

Richard: Yeah, we We did the— we chose a particular class that was a higher level of class that I had been running, which was in what they call Group 2. It was a class called Superstock. So yeah, I ran in that for a few years.

Tommy: Is there any money in drag racing?

Richard: Yeah, the easiest way to become a millionaire in drag racing or motorsport is to start as a billionaire. Yeah, yeah, I like that.

Josh: It's definitely not work, work.

Richard: No.

Josh: And, um, and so the GM stuff, did that all come out off the back of your dad?

Richard: Yeah, yeah. So Dad, he started work at Holden in 1951 when he came out to Australia, and he stayed there for 42 years. And when they started tipping people out who were a bit older, um Basically, they, uh, you know, the younger, younger guys who with all the uni degrees and that, you know, come along and said, well, I know you old guys, we don't want you.

Tommy: What did your dad do there?

Richard: He was a material, yeah, material controller, so in spare parts. So he looked after bringing in product for spare parts, for the spare parts operation. So yeah, and just controlling all of that, coordinating. And I suppose back back then, and I've been through it myself, is back then you don't have the simplicity of emails and digital transition of data.

Tommy: Everything was either by mail or fax or, you know, jump in the commie, drive it down there.

Richard: Yeah. So from that point, it was, you know, it was a— they had a big team of people, a lot, lot greater than what you would for that same job now. It's crazy, isn't it?

Tommy: What, um, What, where was that? Did he work in Geelong?

Richard: No, he worked— Geelong was Ford, so yeah, he started in Fisherman's Bend, yeah, Port Melbourne. And then when they built the, uh, the factory in, um, in Dandenong, he moved out to Dandenong, um, just— I think it was just after he got married. So he was living in Glen Waverley, then we—

Tommy: he—

Richard: they built a house in Springvale North. And, um, so from about 1959, I think it was, um, he was from Springvale North going to Dandenong. And, and back then, um, it was interesting because General Motors even had its own train station.

Josh: Really?

Richard: Yeah, yeah.

Josh: People didn't drive?

Richard: No, no. Well, there was thousands of people, you know, like before the massive automation of production lines, you know, it was just people, you know, it was people that created a car. It wasn't robots or anything like that.

Tommy: Facebook have their own ferry system over in San Francisco.

Richard: Yeah.

Josh: And even Pixar, when I visited there, they had their own bus or whatever that would bring people around. So what's the train station now? Do you know? Did it just become a sort of like a local general train?

Richard: No, no, no. It's it's not used at all. And it was like, um, there was a train station for sand dune races as well.

Josh: Yeah, so drag racing has been an interesting thing, um, in Victoria. Uh, we used to go to Calder Park.

Richard: Yep.

Josh: Uh, Heathcote.

Richard: Yep.

Josh: Um, and what's the scene? Is there a drag racing scene in Victoria anymore?

Richard: Um, Some people would say yes, in that Heathcote is still around, just for, um, but not ANDRA-approved racing. But there's a lot of 1/8-mile tracks. So generally drag racing is a quarter mile, 1,320 feet. Now there's a lot of 1/8-mile racetracks, mainly because of the ability to put it onto a smaller package of land. And because land is such an expensive commodity now. So there's tracks in Portland, down near Warrnambool, Swan Hill, Mildura, Beansdale. So all of those little tracks are around, but they still don't have the ability to draw upon the millions of people that are in Melbourne. So, and that's the problem is that Melbourne as a city is so wide and spread. Calder Raceway was great, it was brilliant, and what it needed was another raceway over the southeastern suburbs. And if there was that, it would have been great. But, uh, um, the changes with, uh, the way that the Calder Raceway was managed and the relationship with the governing body just meant that, um, it just didn't work. You know, Bob Jane, who owned Calder Raceway, he was, um, shall we say, a prickly fella to deal with.

Josh: Yeah.

Richard: And, um, and it was, uh, and it was difficult for them, uh, um, to, to keep it going. You know, like, when I was racing, there would be 50,000 people there on a night.

Josh: Jeez.

Tommy: Um, you know, what years would that be?

Richard: So that was the, the best years really were Before Josh was born. I know, just throwing it out there. The best years were probably '92 through till about '97.

Tommy: Yeah, some great years.

Richard: Yeah. And it was a really, really strong— and in actual fact, drag racing was really a major threat to other forms of motorsport in Australia in particular, like the way that supercars are nowadays. You know, you get enormous crowds at supercars. But I'll tell you what, if it wasn't cocked up by, um, Bob Jane in Victoria, um, supercars I don't think would be as strong as they are now. Because it was the fact that drag racing lost its momentum, and there always has got to be, you know, something loses its momentum, another thing gains momentum. So, um Yeah, the supercars have endured a very, you know, strong public support over the last, you know, probably 10, 15 years. But I think that's coming to a bit of an end now.

Josh: So is that— yeah, with Holden ceasing to exist in Australia, yeah, what does that mean for supercars?

Richard: Well, I'm not an expert on the supercar side, but, um, well, you follow Holden in the supercar? Oh yeah, yeah.

Josh: And so who— so there's Ford and Holden. Are there any other?

Richard: There was Nissan. No, no, Nissan no longer.

Tommy: GTR in the race?

Richard: No, no. So, um, when, when supercars opened up the, um, uh, the doors to other manufacturers, you had your, your, your Falcon and your Commodore. And then Volvo came along. So that was not a factory team as such. It was a Polestar team in conjunction with Gary Rogers Motorsport. What does that mean?

Josh: It's a Polestar team.

Richard: So Polestar is like a HSV arrangement for Holden. So Polestar is the version for Volvo.

Josh: Okay, sure.

Richard: Yeah. And then you had the Mercedes, um, like based on a really like an E63 type car. Well, that was totally not connected with Mercedes at all, but it was connected obviously with Betty Klimenko, who owns the Penrite team now.

Josh: A lot of fucking names you're mentioning. A lot of names.

Richard: Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: Penrite's a brand, there's also a team.

Richard: Yeah. Yep. So she, she, MJ63, know that. And that was called the Erebus team. So, um, they used a Mercedes V8, um, and then the, uh, uh, the Nissans, which was, um, really run— that was a factory Nissan team run out of the Kelly workshop. And, um, that was— they used a Nissan Altima, which they never came out with a V8 in those cars in Australia. But the supercars went to this car of the future style arrangement, which they tried to equalise everything to make it close racing. And the controls that they had to put in there were quite arduous for the, for the teams. And in essence, I think that the, the the demise of some of the other teams was, you know, the difficulty in meeting the requirements of what Supercars had. So then came the Mustang, because Supercars wanted to have a current model car. You couldn't run a car that was no longer in production. And when Ford went out of production, they basically said, well, you know, you, you can't use the Falcon anymore, you've got to have another car.

Tommy: So they're pulling Commodores from—

Richard: so, well, yeah, they've got a contract, they can do it for 2 years after the end of, end of production. So they'll, they'll essentially run them again for this year and possibly next year.

Tommy: Well, the juiciness was, um, that they announced the collapse or the, the ceasing production of Commodore and they hadn't spoken to the Prime Minister. And the Prime Minister— previous Prime Ministers have been giving tax breaks.

Josh: 4 minutes before I think they announced it, they sent him an email.

Tommy: Well, they've been giving—

Josh: I didn't cheque his emails.

Tommy: Yeah, they're in severe debt, giving them breaks.

Richard: Yeah, I think that, that's a real hard one because, um, Toyota received massive amounts of money, so did Ford.

Tommy: I mean, it's bullshit for all of them to be getting this stuff. Like, Tesla's not getting money from the American government. They're meant to be—

Richard: the Americans do it a little bit differently though, you know. It's not the same. It's, you know, you look at in Germany, they, they, they get assistance over there through tariffs. And yeah, there's, there's always assistance given to big manufacturers in—

Josh: but is Holden just like GM? Is Holden just an American company?

Richard: Holden was the Australian company that was part of the GM organisation.

Josh: And so, do you think though that those rebates and all the support that the government was giving, was it really just propping up, uh, obviously an American company that's providing jobs for Australians?

Richard: But you know what, you, you would never know, um, A friend of mine, um, he would know, and he was quite close to Holden. He was in charge of the motorsport connection with, uh, um, with Holden and supercars, um, and he's a very, very knowledgeable person. And I think that, um, if you want to get into more in-depth stuff about, you know, the the workings of the way Holden and a lot of the manufacturers work. He's definitely a man too.

Tommy: But we're more headline guys, you know, we're headline guys.

Richard: Yeah, well, this guy's a pretty good headline. He's the human headline. He's like Darren Hinch.

Tommy: I was gonna say, you can't have that, Nick.

Richard: Except he's, um, hey, you can't have that.

Tommy: That's Darren's.

Richard: Yeah, human headline.

Tommy: That was his nickname.

Josh: What did you call him?

Tommy: Darrin Hinch.

Josh: Oh yeah, Darren.

Tommy: No, I couldn't— Darren, that's why I thought you said— I, you know, I called him probably Darren and then I tried Darren and you call me— you're like, what is that?

Josh: That was Darren.

Tommy: I said it right.

Josh: All right, so moving on from car stuff for a bit. Um, what's, what's funny? Just what are you thinking?

Tommy: I'm gonna— I'm just gonna throw it over to the gronks on the couch. Uh, any questions for Josh Jansen's father?

George: What's a gasket?

Tommy: No, no, no, it's not car related.

Josh: It can be. Describe a gasket, Richard.

Tommy: Relating to Josh and, you know, breeding a boy like him.

Josh: Let's start with a gasket question. Give us a 10-second answer. Okay, he doesn't know.

Richard: Well, that's, that's an entry. Well, a gasket can be a number of things.

George: Oh, it's just the other day Tommy said blown a head gasket and I was like, oh, okay, so what he's talking about there is the—

Richard: is it— is a compound of material between two pieces of metal that allows it to move slightly, very, very slightly, but creates a seal for the cylinders and the water and the oil.

Tommy: You're in trouble if it blows, aren't you, Richard?

Richard: Yes.

Tommy: George, any question about, um, about Josh? Yeah, anything that you're curious about. I mean, I got plenty, but I thought I'd just start.

George: What did you think about Josh being best friends with all his teachers?

Tommy: A good, good one.

Richard: Uh, didn't really worry me.

Josh: No, that's good.

Tommy: Did you know about it?

Josh: Well, yeah.

Richard: Well, um, well, yes and no.

Josh: What's different too, I went to a group— like, my teachers were great. He went to Catholic schools where you don't want to be friends with the— you want to sort of run out as soon as you can. Yeah, yeah, but it's, um, they're still doing the whip back in that day.

Richard: Yeah, yeah, strap and the whip.

Tommy: Oh, jeez.

Richard: Oh, strap and the cane.

Tommy: Did you get it a bit?

Richard: Oh no, I tried to avoid it.

Josh: What was the most trouble you ever got in at school?

Richard: Probably exploding things in the, um, in the lab at, uh in Form 4 in their chemistry. Had a new chemistry wing at the college, and they— our very first prac day, we went there and we had to mix up zinc dust and sulfur. I'll never forget it. And you mixed it up and you put it in the little glass test tube.

E: Yeah.

Richard: And you heat it up, and you, you weren't supposed to, but they didn't say don't leave it in the flame until everyone had left it in the flame. And there was things exploding everywhere because zinc dust and sulphur is flash powder.

Josh: Yeah. So what were they hoping to do with it?

Richard: Well, just to show us how those two properties react.

Josh: Sure schools don't do that anymore.

Richard: Well, I'm sure they would in chemistry. But yeah, we went to chemistry prac once that year and that was it. So in the end, what we used to do is we used to go up to Selby's, the, um, the chemical supply company up around the corner, and we used to buy our own stash of zinc dust and sulphur and make flash powder, um, rockets that we'd set off going across the oval.

Josh: So you're obsessed, but he's obsessed with fireworks.

Tommy: Do you, um, when I was young, probably you're, uh, you're 7. Yeah, yeah, you're 7. Got the order form from a business in Canberra, and you can jot down all you want for your fireworks and send it off. Did you ever do that?

Richard: No, no, the only thing I ever did was I used to bring them back from when I raced in Adelaide because you could buy them in Adelaide. Remember that, Josh?

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there was, there was one New Year's Eve that Dad, uh, there was one where it sort of, uh, you'd light it, it was a rectangle, twirl up, it was really great. Yeah. And what do you remember what it was called?

Tommy: Catherine's Wheel.

Richard: Yeah, maybe.

Josh: But my mum was very like, she wasn't a fan of them, but she's like, okay, New Year's you can do it. And yeah, sure enough, Dad lit one and then knocked it as he was going off. And so it started firing at us.

Tommy: There was also candles.

Josh: Yeah, well, there was also, I bought some firecrackers from a mate at school and then Dad found out and so he said, okay, Well, you can keep them, but we need to test them to make sure that they're okay. And so then he had— love that. So he went out to the back and he lit it, and then as soon as he lit it, fucking exploded in his face. Do you remember that?

Richard: Yes, I do.

George: Yeah.

Tommy: Uh, do you know what the squeegee has to do with this show?

Josh: Jesus Christ.

Tommy: Do you have any idea for that squeegee? Nah, that answers it. That's all, that's all I'll say. That's all good. The episode 14, the, uh, when you were—

Josh: when I played footy, you know, no, no, when I played footy, you were the runner.

Richard: Oh yeah, we won't go there.

Josh: It was actually— you had to talk about your career as a runner. How did you even get involved?

Richard: Um, well, you were playing football, so I did the, um, the fatherly duty and offered my services to the team.

Josh: And why did you— how'd you land on runner?

Richard: Uh, I don't know. I think I wanted to lose some weight.

Josh: Okay, sure.

Richard: Yeah, yeah, that's been a never-ending, um, battle. I meant, um, yeah, the runner was interesting. The runner was better than doing security.

Tommy: Security? What do you mean?

Richard: For what? Um, for the umpire going out.

Josh: What? Yeah, security.

Tommy: Where did you guys grow up?

Josh: And so why did they need security?

Richard: Because the league requested them to have security.

Josh: And so what, so what happened was Dad wasn't happy with how the umpires were going and ended up— what, what happened?

Richard: Oh, just having a bit of a chat along the way. And, you know, I wasn't being rude or nasty or anything. I just said to the— I said to the umpire going out, maybe you could see both sides of the game.

Josh: And so he was in a runner outfit, weren't you?

Richard: When you, you, anyway, I had to go to the tribunal.

Tommy: And what does that mean? Like, it seems it's not police, it's not like you're in trouble with the law. What is it? Some reason you have to rock up to something. What was it? Explain what a tribunal is in a local child's league.

Richard: It was, no, it wasn't just the child's league, it was the main They use the same one. Yeah, they use the same league tribunal, but he didn't turn up.

Josh: So the umpire too scared.

Tommy: Oh, so who did he rat on you or something?

Richard: And then he must have said something. So, you know, like, obviously I shouldn't have said something and I wasn't being rude.

Tommy: Did you put it— was there a bit of mayo on that? Did you actually use some other words that weren't 'you should see both sides'?

Josh: You probably swore at him. Did you use— he definitely— he actually got— because Mum's been in a few times. What about the basketball? No.

Richard: So there was No, I think that's a bit unfair.

Josh: The 0.4, you can reel off a storey after, Richard. It's fine.

Tommy: One for one, buddy.

Josh: So Master of the Lights, he knew a lot about like, what's it called, like timing, reaction times. And so there was 0.4 of a second on the clock at a basketball game and Vikings were up, which is the team that my brother played for.

Richard: And wasn't there— wasn't Vikings, was it?

Josh: Yeah, it was Vikings, but it wasn't at— it wasn't at Veneto Club. Um, and, uh, there was 0.4 of a second. Now the deal is that, uh, the clock starts when it touches the hand of someone within the court, right? So when it's this point, like when there's less than— is it 3 minutes or a minute? I've gone blank.

Richard: Less than a minute.

Josh: Less than a minute. It's, um, every single time the ball goes out of court the clock stops. I think it could be 3 minutes. It could be 3 minutes. Anyway, the final, yeah, 0.4 of a second, the ball gets thrown in to the court, someone catches it and then gets a 3 points and wins the game for the other team. And so, Richard Jansen having opinions around reaction times. And also having been a slight pest when it comes to junior sports, you ended up having a conversation with the umpire.

Richard: No, I didn't.

Josh: You did. Yeah, you— I remember Frankie, the coach, they asked you to leave.

Richard: Well, you know, you got to keep up the reputation, don't you?

Josh: Is that right? That's what happened.

Richard: Oh, listen, that was a long time ago.

Josh: I can't remember. There was also air horns involved. We had an air horn for a while. Why did we buy the air horn?

Richard: Because some other team had done it previously and we thought we'd get them back.

Josh: So we had an air horn to the basketball court.

Tommy: It seems very committed to the whole thing.

Richard: Yeah, it was more entertainment than anything.

Josh: Was it?

Richard: Entertainment for myself and for the other fathers, you know.

George: Yeah.

Richard: We used to have— we actually used to have a good time because we'd go to the Veneto Club and you'd have a few beers because that was the only place, that was the only venue that had alcohol. So you'd have a few beers, have a meal on that. And so unfortunately, having a few beers, you tend to get a bit lippy, get a bit lippy and get wound up. Yeah, like I remember one time there was, um, they were playing a particular side and, um, uh, we were— what we do is— and this, this wasn't junior basketball, this was seniors, you know. So, um, we'd decide we'd pick on a particular person because that person would then get, um, would lose his shit and then get tech fouled out or something like that. Anyway, we're having a go at this guy. There was 3 of us, 3 or 4 of us, that would, you know, strategically place ourselves around the court and, you know, heckle and, um Um, I remember, uh, the, uh, the guy runs past the bench and says, um, um, what did he say exactly? Uh, you better tell your mates to shut the fuck up because I've got a gun in me bag. And, um, yeah, so we stopped.

Tommy: Yeah, so chance of it wasn't real. Chance that he just thought he just heckled you, basically?

Richard: No, he just got out of jail about, um, 6 months prior. So we thought, well, yeah, let's, let's, let's be quite good shot, mate.

Josh: Oh, that's awesome.

Tommy: Um, what, what was it like raising Josh Jansen?

Richard: Oh, was it— it was a pleasure, really. It actually was.

Tommy: Your work's not done yet, mate. You're still a child.

Richard: Oh yeah, but I'm still a child. It sounds like it. No, we had 3 boys and it was really good. And we had, apart from the time when Lynne would dress everyone in the same clothes, hey Josh?

Josh: Yeah, I mean, I can't remember. That was like 3.

Richard: Like dress everyone in the same clothes, including me. 4 boys. But no, it was good.

Tommy: Do you think there's something about youngest children that they're distinct?

Richard: Oh, they get the most. Yeah, yeah, they definitely got the most.

Josh: Oh, I guess I got to go to VCA and all that.

Richard: Yeah, listen, I, I don't know. You tend to be— you tend to learn what the silver bullets are and what they're not, what aren't. And, um, and I think that's the, that's the important part, is as long as you make sure that they're respectful and your children are respectful and you know, understand the true values of life, you're happy. And so long as they're happy doing what they're doing too. And that's a key, because like, I was an accountant. After 20 years, I said to Lynn, I said, I can't do this anymore, I need to do something else. And that's when I got an earring. Nah, nah, nah, that was a few years later. But Yeah, um, yeah, so we— I changed, changed trades and jobs and redid a trade and everything. So yeah, it was, it was interesting, interesting.

Josh: What do you think of, um— I've never asked you about faith and religion. What do you think, like, growing up in a Catholic household and a school?

Richard: Um, yeah, so mum and dad were— your grandparents, as you know, were very, very religious and Nana had what, like, uh, probably 18 priests or something?

Josh: It was 9, 9 priests.

Richard: Funeral, um, yeah. But, um, and her, her brother was a, uh, a brother, so not just a brother, but brother brother. It was a work brook. Yeah, work work brother brother. Um, but yeah, he He was a brother for the Palatine, um, missions.

Josh: Can I just explain, because the guys probably don't know what the work work joke is. The other day I said, Dad calls me, he's got a real thing about like whether we're making money or whether we're doing the daily talk show. And so he said, how are you going? I'm like, oh yeah, you know, busy with work.

Richard: He's like, work work.

Josh: And so that's, that's where that comes from. Yeah, so guys, so what is a brother?

Richard: Um, that's a, uh, you know, uh, um, like a priest but not, not, um, as far. So, and Dad's brother, he was a priest, uh, or a Franciscan monk. So, uh, it's a Francis—

Josh: Franciscan monk.

Richard: That was an order of the priest of, um, not Catholic, the order of a Christian priesthood. So they used to do a lot of ministry things over in India and Pakistan and things like that. So yeah, so I grew up in a pretty, um, pretty religious household. I had to do the old altar boy thing. And, um, but then, and when I went to a Catholic, um, college, Catholic primary school, Catholic college Um, we had to learn Latin, so I learned Latin for 4 years.

Josh: It's pretty useless, isn't it?

Richard: Oh no, not really.

Josh: What do you do with it?

Tommy: Yeah, speak Latin for me.

Richard: I wouldn't have a clue. Well, why do you— I couldn't speak it back then.

Josh: What could— what, what's it— what's the Latin for, like, what would you use it for?

Richard: Oh, it helps you with the English language, maybe. English language, yeah, the defining of words in the English language. You can, you can actually see the derivatives of, um, of things. But, um, but it was interesting, we used to have to translate, um, the Bible from Latin into English. And it was funny, one, uh, I think it might have been in about Form 4, so year— was that 8?

Josh: I don't know.

Richard: No, how old were you?

Josh: So you're like 15, 16?

Richard: Yeah, yeah. So we used to do that and we used to have to translate out of, uh, of Latin into English and we I'll never forget, we translated the Ascension into Heaven, which is the section of the Bible, and it was a perfect description of spacecraft taking off. So then a few of us, we got into a bit of trouble actually, because we— there was a thing called Chariots of Gods, which was about the aliens and Egyptians and, you know, all the pyramids and stuff, the pyramids and everything like that. So we got into a lot of trouble at school back then because what did you do?

Josh: You, but you, you implied that there was aliens were involved in—

Richard: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Tommy: Which what undermines the, the work of the Bible.

Josh: Absolutely, yeah, because it's not true, like it's not another thing.

Tommy: So you called it, called it then, did you?

Josh: And so you, so was that, were you pretty disenfranchised by the whole thing at that point?

Richard: Oh yeah, because we never really—

Josh: we didn't go to church. But then your sister's kids all—

Richard: yeah, but the difference there was, was, um, Lynn's family was not really religious at all. So, um, uh, you guys got baptized. And, um, what does that get me, by the way?

Tommy: Uh, and get— you can get into like a You can get into Catholic schools.

Richard: Yeah.

Josh: Why didn't you sign me up for MCC?

Richard: The MCC? Yeah, because I wasn't a member.

Josh: Yeah, no, but couldn't we have just signed me up?

Tommy: Yeah, you'd have to be paying for it and you don't go.

Josh: He gave up his MCC membership.

Richard: Did you really? Yeah.

George: That's the cricket club, isn't it?

Tommy: That is, Harry. Yeah, but I've got two brothers that have it, so I can go anytime with them, sit with them, play. $30, it's better with the amount I go, paying $30 or $60, go a couple of times for a year. As opposed to $550 every year, even if you don't go.

Richard: Even if it's a status thing in a lot of ways.

Tommy: Definitely. And I'm higher than that. I'm higher than that, Richard.

Josh: Yeah, great.

Tommy: Harry, Harry, I feel like you'd have a question.

Josh: Yeah, surely. What do you think?

Tommy: Other than head gaskets?

George: Pardon?

Josh: Sorry, Harry.

Tommy: Gaskets.

Josh: Any questions?

George: I'm not sure.

Tommy: Oh, you've listened to the show. I feel like there's almost—

Josh: Josh, just about anything.

Tommy: Do you remember, do you remember Josh's bike that had the, the alarm system?

Richard: Warning, warning, stolen bike. Yeah, yeah, that was, that was funny. That's handy.

Josh: Harry?

George: Yes, um, oh, I don't know.

E: I've got one.

George: Yep.

E: Thank you.

Josh: Um, Josh, keep thinking.

Tommy: Yeah, I gave him some time with this.

Josh: He doesn't use it. He didn't connect the dots.

E: No, Josh has done a lot of like, uh, technological stuff like website hosting, podcast hosting.

Josh: Is this a Ventura IP integration?

E: And things like filming and stuff. What's been the most annoying thing technologically-wise that Josh has done?

Josh: That's a good question.

E: Aside from the microphones under the couch.

George: Sick?

Richard: Oh, they weren't really annoying because it was—

Josh: I think you took the fuck out of it.

Richard: You were—

Josh: I annoyed you a lot when I was a kid.

Richard: Yeah, well, you know, I've forgotten. I'm old. Yeah, trauma usually does that. You know, I suppose the, the most annoying part was the camera in your face when he was like 12 years old, and it was constantly in your face. Especially Lynn had that more than I did because I'd just go to work and leave her with it.

Josh: But then I did a— for your 40th, was it? No, for your 50th I did the, um, it couldn't have been 40, was it? Was it— no, it wasn't 40. 40th you did the, um, Dracula, Dracula's thing. No, but you— for your 50th I did a, um, video where I followed you around, didn't I? Work. Remember I did that video?

Richard: Oh yeah, yeah.

Josh: I was sort of in the style of Ryan, how Ryan Shelton would do the Rove Live stuff. And so it had Dad with a Boggling Head. It's like, meet my dad, Richard Jansen.

Richard: Yeah, he's still got that.

Josh: Yeah, I'd have it somewhere. We should put it on, like, it's definitely got copyright music all over it.

Tommy: A, um, a link, uh, unlisted link.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, that would work.

Tommy: That'll be fine.

Josh: Uh, what other annoying things I do? Be honest, um, lean into it.

Richard: Oh no, I'm not here to hang shit.

Josh: No, you can't.

Tommy: No, he threw you under the bus with the, uh, Yeah, tribunal gear.

Richard: Oh yeah, yeah. Well, you know, you learn and live and learn, don't you?

Josh: So what's the lesson?

Richard: Well, I haven't done it since, have I? Have you? No. Yeah.

Josh: What other things? What do you, what do you remember?

Richard: Um, from a—

Josh: You probably should prompt him beforehand with some storeys because he's fucking— Yeah, I remember on the way home.

Richard: Yeah, I will. And I'll ring him up. No, no, I think that the camera filming was probably the— and you know, when you did Rodda's Life and that was a pretty hard time for you.

Josh: Yeah.

Richard: Hats off to you. What you did there for—

Josh: I was doing 30 hours of what I would do like 5 hours a night editing. I'd procrastinate and then have to do it in the middle of the night.

Tommy: Not much has changed.

Josh: I still procrastinate and that's why we have George.

Tommy: Yeah. What about confirmation on a storey that involves Jake and a car.

Josh: Oh, which one? Oh, there's not a—

Tommy: he took the car, he took the car to a party or something.

Josh: Which car was it?

Richard: It was my blue EK ute, and he, uh, he took the party— uh, the car out. And I came home a couple of days later, and, um, and I was on the computer in the back room, and I, I saw these I was flicking through and some pictures came up and it was the— of the ute doing a burnout.

Tommy: And where were you flicking through?

Richard: Uh, it was on the—

Josh: it would be in Kodak software, like, yeah.

Richard: And, and it was the, um, the— my ute doing a burnout. And I thought, what the fuck? So I went outside and had a look at the tires. They were brand new and they were bald. And so anyway, I, uh I came in and I said, hey Jake, said, come with me. And I don't know whether he knew what was going on. Anyway, he said, what happened to the tires? He said, oh, I don't know. And I said, I think I know. I said, there's a picture of the car doing burnouts. And he goes, they look good, didn't they?

Tommy: You had been done.

Josh: You were big in the street drags. Weren't you? You don't talk about that much, but you can't.

George: You—

Richard: I'd get locked up now. Yes.

Tommy: Well, Dandenong, uh, Princess Freeway, Princess Highway.

Richard: Yeah, we used to race a lot back in the days.

Tommy: Well, the, the law— the— I mean, the laws weren't different, there was just less police presence.

Richard: I know the laws were different.

Tommy: They were?

Richard: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tommy: They just hadn't written them.

Richard: They didn't. Yeah, the reason the laws are existing is because there's Yeah, you wouldn't, um, you wouldn't lose your car or anything like that back when, when we were doing it. We were talking, you know, late '70s and, and early '80s and things like that. Uh, that's when I was sort of— but then I went legit and we were part of a proper drag racing club, which was the Dandenong Drag Racers Club, which is no longer unfortunately, but that had a very big membership and it was everyone who, uh, who, uh, and that the whole thing was, was to promote getting off the street.

Josh: And was that—

Tommy: did someone die?

Josh: Did you have someone die doing it? No, no. Any bad car accidents or anything? Me? Yeah, well, just as in with the street drag stuff.

Richard: Um, not with street drags. Um, a mate of mine, um, had a, uh, uh, an accident where he got killed. Um, so yeah, so that was not good. But that was, oh, that was not that long ago really, 10 years ago. But, um, that was in a hot rod.

Josh: So yeah, yeah. Uh, the hot rod thing, like, uh, uh, Kevin Hart, uh, the American comedian, he, he got—

Richard: he fucked up his, his car Challenger. Yeah, yeah.

Josh: Um, do you think about that in regards to safety of the— you drive around old cars all the time? There, like, apparently I was watching some doco who was— and there was a police officer who sort of worked, I think it might have been Route 66 or wherever it was. It was just like he had a collection of the absolute destruction of people, just like, just their heads in fucking steering wheels and just really crazy shit. Do you think about that when you're driving these older cars around?

Tommy: No, you wouldn't drive them otherwise. I've got no headrests. No, like you'd get severe whiplash. How are they still legal? Like when, when it's not meeting safety standards of— you couldn't produce a car like that for today and sell it as a brand new same as, same as anything around though, isn't it?

Richard: You know, like there's a lot of products that come onto the market, not just cars, but, um, that don't meet the current nanny state requirements of, um, of, of society nowadays, you know. Yes, admittedly cars are very, very safe nowadays, but, um, you know, it's, uh, I understand and I accept that cars, you know, with all the new electronic gadgets and gizmos and things like that, that they, they are a lot safer. And, you know, crumple zones and airbags and everything like that. But as a mate of mine would say, hey, yeah, but I look cool driving this.

Tommy: You look cool in your Impala. It's, um, do you think it'll ever change? Like, do you think they'll remove these old cars being allowed to go on the roads?

Richard: I really hope not.

Josh: That's like a culture, like that's been your whole life.

Richard: Yeah, it is a culture. And, um, And it's, and it's a business, um, part of, um, Australia really.

Josh: It's huge in the US.

Richard: Oh yeah, it's huge in the US, but in Australia it's really, really big nowadays. So you've got the demise of the manufacturing of cars, but one thing that we do have here in Australia is the aftermarket for cars is enormous. You know, these— there's a about 20,000 cars plus per annum that come into Australia from the US.

George: Really?

Richard: Well, is that all like left-hand drive cars?

Josh: Really?

Richard: Yeah, all old cars.

Josh: So what's the deal? So left-hand drive, you can have a left-hand drive vehicle?

Richard: Yeah.

Josh: Without having a sticker on the back if it's how old?

Richard: 25 years or older. Yeah.

Tommy: Older than 25 years, you don't have to put the sticker on it.

Richard: Yeah.

Josh: Have you ever been pulled over with a booze bus and they've—

Richard: Yeah, they went to Lynn and she goes, she started laughing, she goes, I think you better talk to that guy. And he wasn't very impressed actually. Oh really? Yeah, yeah, I've had a few. Well, because they don't know the law and they're just thinking this guy, you know, like they probably weren't impressed because the fact that they have got to go around in between another car and that and and it's a risk to them. So, you know, I can't understand why cars that are under 25 years old cannot be driven on the road the same as an over-25-year-old car.

Tommy: It doesn't really make sense.

Richard: No, it doesn't. So in England, for instance, the cars are traditionally a right-hand drive car, but you can drive from Germany or France or anywhere over to England.

Josh: Do you think that's why? Because the Mustangs are very expensive, aren't they? Because they have to—

Richard: uh, no, the Mustangs are reasonably priced. Yeah, Ford did a very, very good job. Take my hat off to them. They did a magnificent job on getting the Mustang in to replace the Falcon.

Josh: Isn't it like an $80,000— how much is that?

Richard: $55,000, $60,000.

Tommy: But so many of them on the road.

Richard: You look at the cost of the Camaro, what they're HSV, um, well, yeah, HSV is selling the Camaro for, you know, like they're $100,000, $110,000, $120,000.

Josh: Who the fuck's buying an HSV at that price?

Richard: Well, that's right, you know, like they're dreaming, you know, as, as Michael Caine would say, tell him he's fucking dreaming, you know. It's just crazy, you know, like they, they're on drugs. They— there is no reason to for anyone really to buy that car. It's not worth $100 grand.

Josh: So this is being imported from the—

Richard: so it gets imported from the US, gets manufactured and imported from the US, and then it goes to the Walkinshaw HSV plant in Clayton where they do a full conversion of it. And it's done properly, but it's got, you know, $35,000 worth of labour and parts in it.

Tommy: Ridiculous.

Richard: But, um, you know, bumps the price up. It's crazy.

Tommy: Is this— do you think the, um, stuff with Holden's going to increase the, the sale price of cars? Yeah, like the older ones.

Richard: Stuff's already happened.

Tommy: It's already happened.

Richard: Yeah, it's already happened. It's happened like over the last couple of years. The, uh, um, the older Holdens, um, from about— believe it or not, the first model FX, FJs really haven't had a big, a big boost, but Anything after that, um, all the way through to VLs, even VN and VKs. Yeah, VKs and things like that, they've gone through the roof.

Josh: Uh, when, uh, when we were kids, you got a, um, a shell of a car, Willy's Aero Wing, and the plan was that you were going to have it ready for, uh, James, my brother's formal. So that was, um, how many years ago? That would have been 20 years ago.

Richard: Uh, it was 17 years ago.

Josh: Sorry, 17 years ago.

Richard: Yeah, because I've had it for for nearly 18 years.

Josh: And so that was the, that was the plan. You had a bunch of stuff happen, you weren't able to make it happen. Is the— so what state is the Willys Aero Wing in now? How many are there in Australia? And when will it be finished? So you thought it was going to be done 17 years ago?

Richard: Oh no, no, no, no, I thought it would be done about 15 years ago.

Tommy: It's not much.

Josh: And so he's moved every time, every time they've moved house They have to fucking organise like a— where is it staying now? Where is it?

Richard: It's at a place which is getting the, um, the engineering work done for it. So things are rolling along a little bit.

Josh: Um, when do you think it will be on the road? 10 years?

Richard: No, no, um, maybe, uh, 2022.

Josh: 2022. Okay. Did you sell the, um, what's the latest you said, the El Camino?

Richard: El Camino, you sold that? Yeah.

Tommy: What do you reckon you spent, just a rough figure, on cars across your lifetime? Oh, just rough, just throw the number out there.

Richard: Wouldn't have a clue.

Tommy: Nah, just throw one out there, Richard, come on.

Josh: It'd be over a million dollars. No, you've got the Chrysler, you got like all the—

Tommy: if you're talking about all those, I'm talking about every car, every cent you've spent on a car that you've of your own? I don't know, roughly half a mil more.

Josh: No, no, Walker's more.

Tommy: More, he said.

Josh: Yeah, definitely more.

Tommy: You win more.

Josh: All right, well, we should do something. I wonder what will come first, whether you will have the Willys Aero Wing ready or whether we'll have our Cybertruck from Tesla, because 97 has put a— we've put—

Richard: what's happening?

Josh: We've put a deposit on the Cybertruck.

Richard: That square thing?

Tommy: Yeah.

Richard: You're kidding me.

Tommy: You know what? It'll beat most of the cars that you own.

Josh: It will.

Richard: Yeah, of course it will. Yeah. I think they do 0 to 100 in about 2.7 seconds. Yeah, it's ridiculous.

Josh: And then if you include 0.4.

Richard: Yeah, but you can only— 2.7 seconds, but you can only drive it for 100 K's.

E: No, I think it's actually got a 500K range. 500K.

Richard: Wow.

E: Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: You get halfway to Sydney.

Josh: And so we're going to— if we're getting some more work work, Work Work's gone well. Yeah, we'll, um, we'll do like the Daily Talk Show decal, decal the whole thing.

Richard: Yeah, that'd be cool.

Josh: Yeah, and then we'll have— yeah, and if we don't have Work Work, uh, well then you lose your deposit, which I think they'll give you the deposit back, to be honest.

E: I think that— yeah, it's refundable.

Tommy: That's cute.

Richard: Have you put a deposit on it?

Josh: Yeah, only, uh, $20 grand. Yeah, how much was it?

E: $150.

Josh: $150. And that's That puts you in the line.

Richard: So are they producing them yet?

Josh: Well, we— no, no, they don't, they don't actually, um, we won't find out if they're coming to Australia for a little bit.

E: I think they should, um, 2021, 2022, yeah, similar timing.

Tommy: Yeah, that's why, um, did you see the video of Elon Musk driving it out of like Nobu in Malibu?

Josh: Oh no.

Tommy: And he just like runs over a, um, a pylon. It's fucking great.

Josh: So obnoxious.

Richard: It's just a hum of version of, uh, you hated Hummers, didn't you?

Tommy: Don't ever call it a Hummer version.

Richard: Can't, can't stand Hummers.

Tommy: Yeah, Hummers are out, but this is not a Hummer, mate. It's a fully electronic vehicle.

Josh: Yeah, it'd be great.

Richard: It's sad.

Josh: Why is it sad? Well, just because you, you connect it with— can we— what if we put a Holden badge on the back?

Richard: No, no, no, no, no.

Josh: What do you think? So you just because of what it represents?

Richard: No, not what it represents. You know, I think the electric vehicles will be around in, and a lot sooner than a lot of people realize. It's just the technology of the batteries and, um, the understanding of the public that battery or electric cars with batteries, um, actually produce more pollution than an internal combustion car.

Josh: Are you sure?

Tommy: It's a bombshell he's dropping.

Josh: Are you sure?

Tommy: It's a deep rabbit hole to go down. I've heard that the resource goes into creating these batteries is created, like there's a whole bunch of that.

Josh: But then you've got to build, but if you've got the infrastructure around like renewable energy and you create really good networks.

Richard: That's the problem though, is that everyone says it's about renewable energy, The problem is, is that out there at the moment there's not much sun. You wouldn't get it out of solar panels.

Josh: It's like wind.

Richard: There's not much wind, but they're talking about— you won't get it out of fan blades. Maybe they should— people should start looking at all these mini nuclear reactors.

Josh: Or maybe do what you suggest, which is turn the fucking lights off. Maybe if everyone just turned the fucking lights off.

Richard: Yeah. No, no.

Josh: Oh yeah, that was a big issue though back in the day for us. Or leaving lights on.

Tommy: Yeah, but you know, it costs money. I still, I still think about that shit.

Josh: Yeah.

Richard: Um, no, but I, I think that the, the whole pollution aspect, um, is definitely something that's got to be considered. But why is it up to Australia to be the leader when we represent 1.2% of the pollution that is relative to the greenhouse gas.

George: I guess the point is, you watch a lot of Sky News and Tony Jones. That's exactly what he would say.

Richard: Well, these are good bloke choppers.

George: No, no, no. Tony Jones, like the old Tony Jones, the old man.

Richard: Oh, yeah.

George: Not TJ.

Tommy: Uh, anyway, on that night, Richard, you have to come back in.

Richard: Yeah, yeah, I'm enjoying this.

Josh: We'll have to get Lynn in as well next time. Yeah, what was her appointment, do you know? Um, she was meant to be in here.

Richard: Yeah, yeah, it was, um, it was my fault.

Josh: Okay, did she say— you, you had a conversation about it?

E: Yeah.

Richard: Yeah, yeah. I never told her about it.

Josh: Like, it was very loose. It was sort of— there was a general conversation.

Richard: Yeah, yeah, it was, it was a general conversation. I never told her about it until yesterday, and now she's not here.

Tommy: But we'll get Lynn back separately, and then I think the two of you.

Josh: Yeah, great.

Tommy: I love that.

E: Just before we go, Josh, Venture IP.

Tommy: Oh yeah, um, do you know what Venture IP is, Richard?

Richard: Venture? Venture.

Josh: V-E-N-T-U-R-A. IP. Do you know what a web host is?

Richard: Yeah.

Josh: What's a web host?

Richard: It's a host for your web.

Josh: Yeah. What does it do? What do you think a web host— because you've paid, you actually—

Richard: yeah, for a domain name.

Josh: Go on.

Richard: Yeah.

E: Do you know how many Josh has got?

Richard: Oh, maybe 50.

Josh: Yeah. Well, I've got thejanssens.com.au.

Richard: Yeah. Yeah.

Josh: Thank you. No worries.

Tommy: You don't know that, Richard. Yeah, that's Josh.

Josh: All of his email addresses and stuff connected with that. So what do you think a web host is?

Richard: Oh, you're obviously hosting web pages for people or their domain names. Yeah.

Josh: And so Ventura IP is one of our sponsors and partners.

Richard: Oh, okay.

Josh: And so if you use the code TDTS in checkout, if you get shared web hosting, which is— imagine if you've got like a web server, which is just a computer. Yeah, it's a bit of overkill for your whole website to have its own computer. You don't need that.

Richard: Yep, yep.

Josh: And so shared hosting is like, okay, well, let's put a few websites on one computer. Yeah, and it's economically, you know, it's cheaper.

Richard: Yeah.

Josh: So if you use TDTs at checkout for shared hosting, you get 50% off on your first year.

Tommy: I reckon we could probably organise a walkthrough of the building down in Narre Warren for you, Richard.

Josh: Yeah, not for the other gronks, but maybe if you have a barber Oh, do they? Yeah, they have a beer down.

Richard: I need a haircut, it's gone a bit fluffy.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, they got that.

Tommy: They've got an internal inside swing, games room. So maybe, maybe Richard would be great to watch the Dragons.

Richard: I'd fall off the swing.

Josh: Yeah, we didn't even get to— man, I'm just remembering all these stories. There was one time where, uh, Dad, uh, fucked the amount of, um, turf that we needed, and so he had to create a whole garden bed. Like, there was— we're meant to have the whole, you know side yard was meant to be grass.

Tommy: Went from 80/20, 80% grass to 80% garden.

Josh: Yeah. Do you remember that? It was annoying.

Richard: It was only like a square meter.

Tommy: 60/40.

Josh: Any other stuff on the energy stuff, Harry? You were getting a bit fired up.

George: Oh no, no, no.

Tommy: That's why I covered it up because it is, it just drops off into an abyss.

Josh: Another thing. Yeah. Right, don't leave it. You know, the thing around—

George: Didn't you need to be gone by a quarter past?

Tommy: I'm trying to wrap it up for Richard.

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