#505 – How’s Fitbit?/
- November 3, 2019
Today we’re on the porch of our Airbnb! We chat about the Fitbit feud, making noise on the toilet, wanting to be famous, and lime scooters.
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show, we discuss:
– Driving in LA
– The Fitbit feud, Google’s Fitbit acquisition
– Making noise on the toilet
– Wealth and wanting to be famous
– Lime Scooters
– An email from Shannon
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is it can you actually sell you can see the number to cut out because it would be giving away our exact address. You know, all those people would be coming to know.
We hope that you know, what are we what's the straight parallel to it runs parallel with Fairfax and it's right near the corner of Melrose and Fairfax and across intersection great spot. Yeah, I find that when I'm driving, it's extremely difficult to understand sense of direction. When I'm walking for a different I get into the grid. I get into working out where we are. Now, I reckon. I reckon you're good. But I reckon it's the GPS. Like I reckon most people nowadays, like back in the day when you had look in the milliwatts
By the way I never knew is I thought it's Melbourne specific. Yes, he
was in Sydney was it was it we should get a mail wise what's that seed wise?
anyway because I've been feeding you and Siri or Google Maps telling you the directions I think we just down like we just listened rather than sort of digest well you look at I'm looking at mirrors I'm making sure that a lot on and so if I wonder how like, I mean, what was the old days of traveling you had to take a map
like orienteering Did you have source
know what was at school? Yeah, it was like humanities but it was
used to be called so so I don't know what so stands for so I'm sure Gemma knows what sorry.
Anyway, this so this lovely a b&b we're like we're in this
sort of fortress of hedges and it's lovely and
It's very, very typical visit palm tree to palm trees behind us. Yeah. And there's also another fixture of the location directly at the front. I don't know if you've noticed it. The line scooter. Yeah. Now, can you actually download an app or not? So, by the end of this, this listen.
Back in school, I just feel like it takes paper, you know, by the end of this episode, I'm going to go out, try and turn on the line scooter and drive it back into the show. Okay, and so is it what how does the pricing structure work? It's like $1 to activate. So dollar to unlock and then 35 cents per something. I don't know. I could probably be able playing at home. It's 1:50pm here in LA, which I think is 7:50am. Yeah. Can I just say look at the bytes that I am getting it the only you need sting goes. So yeah.
kiddo would you sing goes oh what about when kids oh my god he actually showed it looks like there's something in there sorry touching that before it's actually got a lot bigger yeah so this is like I think I'm allergic to mosquitoes
This is like the thing getting me own this could have
you know since we've been setting up and they real little for some reason but yeah I my ankles are getting absolutely destroyed Jimmy says studies of society and environment sosv yeah yeah so
do you remember when we were kids
we used to put I remember the girls used to do it because they had long fingernails like you do it across in like on the Mozy buys what I was meant to help well I've mentioned it before I have a look nice him like the amount of scars on my foot on my legs. He mama's
boy, she called me all the white dots. Yeah, yeah, they're all
scab so they're all scars from from Little mosquito bites turning into scabs and it was you're picking them? Yeah. And there was also a time in I think it was marine Viola.
Now somewhere else where I was I went fishing. What is it cold when you use a hand thing? No No but not abroad. No, no, it's still fishing you just using a line there but what's that called?
Fly fishing. Oh, no. So fly fishing. I see. No rope just very loud. Nice. And I'm
sure it's because I've done fishing on a on a like just a rip. It's the handrail and Henry. Unreal. Unreal fishing unreal. I I got eaten alive by San flies. And so a lot of those guys that you know, people say I tracked Moses like that log in my blood. Yeah. Is that a thing? Do you think wow, I think it's a thing for me. Well, I think you're allergic. Clearly say that. something going on, but I had to
My brother's best friend Andy. He actually lives here in California. I'm you touch up with him. Now he's in San Francisco.
He used to PTMSPT
he would he would say, my, if I'm sitting at the table, there will be no one getting eaten by mosquitoes because they all come to me like they flock a flock to me. Well, there's a lot of natural things that you can do. You can use the, like burning things and I want some
some big news in the
Yeah, so about five years ago, my brother James who lives in North Carolina, he was in Australia, human I growing up would get into a lot of arguments. He's a bit of a know it all. I know a bunch of stuff. What does that mean? So he's, uh, He's, uh, yeah, he. I mean, he's got a I think he's got his honors or whatever.
in exercise science, okay, I've got a honors in life. Where do you? Where do you clash most in terms of like a genre of knowledge?
technology? Okay. Well, because, you know, yeah, I know a lot about technology. And so when technology meets science or technology meets sports, yeah, that's really when it's sort of we started to clash. Okay. And so we had an argument about five years ago. I remember like, it went on for days, I think went from the entire trip that it was in Melbourne. Yeah. And you dad got involved? Well, yes. Well, that happened later that happened recently. that only happened the last year and a half or two years. But yeah, the
two and a half years. Yeah, must be it's three, six years at this few it's been solid JVJ Yeah, but it was it was when Apple first came out with the new Apple Watch. And I was saying I think that fits in trouble.
They're not innovating enough. I think that the technology is very basic. I think it's going to move way further than this. And I think the Fitbit doesn't invest in other technologies outside of the accelerometer that will travel. Do you think your forecast you do you think it was like it? Had you seen it sort of progressing? You're like, yes, I'm onto it. Well, the thing is that I liked Fitbit so much that I was selling them remember like I had a, if you typed in by Fitbit, Australia, my link on my blog, Melbourne geek.com was the first thing that came up really. And so I was making 700 bucks a month of people buying them. You can hate them. And also, yeah, so I was just looking. I was watching. I was like, I'd seen what happened to my Fitbit. And I was like, I think that all of this is going to be integrated into a single device. Yeah, like you don't know. Think about what watches of what phones have even done. Everyone's got
Health hapa everyone knows how many steps I've done. Everyone's walking constantly with their phones. We have a big accelerometer in our pants, as in.
And so today, it's just been the last week or two. When did this news come out? I don't know. So, before we announce the news, yeah, it happened. So
over the last six years, it started I think, the Fitbit went public. I think they iPod around 32 bucks.
And up until, like, a month ago, it was at like $4 a share plummeted. Yes. In a massive, massive way. And so there's an there's a bit of a joke that people sleeping to RDM because at my brother's wedding, when the photographer asked for us all to laugh,
My brother how fit bits.
Are you dead on your side? Like, as much as you might not know about that? Yeah, that's aside. Yeah. JJ. Absolutely. Jai Jai ox? Yeah.
It's actually bad for the kids. They could drip Okay, though.
In conspiracy, Jimmy Yeah. I mean, he's a big fan of this. I walked into his office once and he's like, Man that Fitbit stuff with Josh is so good. Well, I think because everyone can relate to having like, well, what within your family, do you have feuds and me my brothers and I, it's an interesting one. We, I think we all there was more of that tension early days because we I is behind my eldest brother. So four years behind Mikey, my middle, and so Mike and I were close. I became close with my older brother when I became 1718. I got older but we
Haven't I mean and thinks I'm an auto about? What is
the other contentious? Yeah, thing was when I read for our body which was Tim Ferriss book, and you can pick up a lot of stuff. And so I'm talking about Dexter scans and shit like that and James EI rolling the scientist and sorry, it only happened yesterday. I I was actually on the toilet at the time. I heard Mr. 97 yelling out. Oh, yeah, I was like, what's going on? And then so I had to turn Can I turn put Spotify on so no one can hear me and the toilet. Is that why you do it? Yeah.
Honestly, I just thought
Well, I do but I think it's also like a polite thing to do if I if I
today Yeah, the problem is that I love acoustic covers. It doesn't necessarily have the
cover, but it's not covering this. I was thinking just veering off slightly before. We get to that.
The toilets over here there's a lot of water in the ball and the ball you know the if you notice that says yeah so much water not much water in ours not as is less but where we were last night be massive big thing of water. And so I'm going to the toilet I'm thinking
I can't hit the side because I like to not make too much noise either.
I think it's a isn't it a human quality not to who is trying to make noise? Do you think American OBD think Americans have that they sort of, they don't have that feeling of like, there's less of go on a diet, use the toilet, make all that noise because you've got no option so you grow up with a lot of water in the ball. And so you making a little noise so you think more water more. I felt like potentially less given from less care
from us to water less time so it can't build up a splash. So
I'm talking number one. I'm so sorry.
No, but I know you were talking that but then
locking the noise I didn't talk about stream I actually
about the string I reckon for me
more frowned upon on a two than one. So my my stream is an indication that it's a weird flex that I'm not doing shit. Like if I'm in the toilet I'm happy to just and the other thing is that
I I am writing to the water because I don't like like when I hear up sometimes I feel like you're trying to piece on the side.
But the thing is, it just sounds like you fucking missing the boat.
A little bit of the water and then you hear
nice situation being on a date. I mean, lovely, lovely young lady, you've gone over to her place. I mean
has happened before and it's a small place and you need to go the toilet number one
What are you are you purposefully going I don't want he heard he my stream?
Yeah, yes. I think that's a consideration. Yeah, definitely. But when when, when when I go to I do that anyway, like, I don't want to make a massive noise anyways, so it's just so anyway, so Josh covers these guys. Gemma Watson said Hey Google Play Missy Higgins.
Craig hoppers said,
the daily talk show the front door addition.
If you if you're only listening, we're literally there's a green front door and Jimmy says toilet chat is a lot at 8am. Yeah, let's move on from the toilet. I had more to add, but
it was happening. My son had a stroke out and he's yelled at his
And it turns out that Google
has acquired Fitbit
How much 2.1 billion 2.1 billion and so the thing was
Tommy What was your initial reaction to that?
Well, I mean immediately I go to a success for Fitbit was $1 seems like a real big sales for billion like it the B word it's fucking ridiculous What if you buying a country
label? Yeah, exactly. But it's a lot so that's my point i guess is 2 billion sounds really good. But I so initially think, oh my god is he lost this like it's just questioning has his Josh last This is James is this is this JVJ over and so conspiracy Jimmy even was messaging about he's a tech guy. Ryan has a tech business and I and he said to me, did you hear about Fitbit? And I wrote back saying Yes. Who do you think one? And he said, I don't know. Yeah, he said Google will pump will pump
Yeah, I mean, I think that the thing is that, you know, why do you I mean, I don't know much about all of this stuff but you've got a publicly listed company that was bought by a company for so it was bought for I think they're paying seven bucks or something to share cash. I don't understand how that works. So did they just fucking I guess I pay all the shareholders out there's a green to thing. Yeah. So I think the shareholders would know that they were doing the sale. Yeah. And so it's like for I think that it was you know, before it got announced it was that like, four bucks or whatever. So like, okay, we're getting an extra three bucks. But what that says if you started at 30 and then you sell for seven? To me, that seems like a massive loss. Yeah. Or iPod. I mean, we are the financial experts. This is the daily talk show find out
when they when something IPOs that usually does send it up. There's a lot of hype around it. Yeah.
So then it does come down but I mean that's like losing how much percent like especially like yet tech technology, specifically like when LinkedIn IPOs I think that was a really big public offering based on
Facebook. I don't think it had gone public at that point. So everyone everyone was hungry for backing a social media company. Yeah. Well off the back of the Facebook stuff. And and but so I asked you had you spoken to James Yeah. And you hadn't No, but I've seen spoken to him. And so I didn't go into I thought, do I need to sort of deconstruct I'm sure he would come up with some form of reason. Why it was a weakness for that.
I know I agree. I think that makes a lot of sense, but interest in your heart.
Is this a win? Yeah.
Definitely, that's a win, does it still, it's a win. And I'll read a few articles that will sort of cement my position, and then I'll be fun, diverge cements your position.
It's the way that the trading Fitbit is similar to the way that Google's traded nest. So then bringing it all in house into the hardware production team or whatever. And so you'll probably maybe see Google Fitbit. Like, watch whatever the name is not sure. So it'll be like Google brand and Fitbit and so it's all in house not keeping separate So the thing is that it's the what's happened is exactly what I thought which is Fitbit. They had one specific bit of technology one specific thing, but they're not Google's having to bring them in band like guys, you can't. You don't have software chops, like but then it's Is it a risky job at $2 billion? Yes. I mean, the fan is a lie. What's your rest? Yeah, the thing is, it's like okay, where we're cutting our losses. We're doing okay.
We're not as super super rich as what we thought we were going to be. I mean, walking away with all that money if they did it. I mean, it's a win for them. And it's weird for JJ.
We've been talking a lot about wealth, specifically like walking down different straits. Oh, we will I actually just opened my phone to get into Instagram. And I saw that it was my last Google search, which was the house across the road. How much is it worth? Yeah, because there's something nice about being in a country that's not your own. You don't really have a great knowledge about property process stuff. So you like I reckon that might be worth blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I've got a mate who gets over into the whole moving to places that he will actually he's multiple times in different countries, asked to book appointments with real estate agents, and goes in does inspections see a high kick you though like you said you absolutely atika, because he doesn't
He's like I am thinking about doing me so whatever. Like Barcelona he spent fucking days in Barcelona looking at places. And no no does it like no well no I think like probably does but then you like oh, will you be able to get like a mortgage from my
so it seems like a little bit ill informed but yeah so we'll look at all trying to guess
and it's you know we were doing this even on the way to the to the airport will asking our driver you know if you private planes versus flying first class what would you rather and we were saying I think we were all saying first or no? Yeah. Have you changed your mind? No no I think the the first thing it's just like it's a bigger plane. It's like you're in first you got the best you got a bed. Do you think the audience is picking first class instead of private does that make us humble?
Just like my that's also like the high but I don't we're smart with the money that we go
watch it. Yeah, I just think that the private client because there's also the admin of private planes is wash it. I know you have people at this point. Yeah, but it's like, it seems like when you go on trips I feel this like being on this trip. You feel like you're more primed to be fact buy something and have to pay a bunch of money. So your ultra sensitive to Okay, like we've budgeted this all okay? But you could easily have something that will goes wrong and then it costs you a couple of grand. Imagine having a private jet, like our you know, the, the stairs aren't working properly. And so we're going to get new stairs to 20 Grand justas but as we know, trashes Cat
Cat Oh, yeah. Who over jet Yes, he's mantra. So he dropped all his money on the
weekend then got to fame and talking about
you know, we you
you're pointing at one of the houses the saying, Oh, you know, I really like this setup. I could really live this lifestyle. I mean, they had three luxury vehicles that would have been over 150 grand a night and I know email I that's the thing about la luxury vehicles do not cost what they do.
There was still probably $100,000 with cost
was more than there would have been to 50 worth of cars, maybe within
g wagon, but it wasn't, it wasn't like it was VCs, it wasn't the top of the line.
Look at how much a Range Rover is here. What do you think? I reckon for Ryan g like a sport 70,000 Nice. Not 50 grand? Yes. Because in Australia, there are about 120 and so you don't pay the tax. I might what is the last 50 to 70 Max Max 70. So But anyway, that was why this is why most
People over here have basic How do you think I have a similar relationship with you that I have with my brother James d? I think just because you fucking everything's like, like you need to be right and so, anyone that needs to be right, I need them to be wrong. Yeah. So I wanted to so we need to 97th looking at what are you finding 97 just unlike the alternative to Castile, what is the name of the place here?
In second hand, now let's second here. Yeah, okay, they go 20 22nd hand 131 K, that's fucking expensive whites actually says new but for us. Yeah, you're saying 50 grand. So UB This is the 2020 version. So 20 so it's in the future. 2025 Okay. 22 Yeah, yeah. 431 KC anyway, they're expensive. I was 2020 and so I reckon I was right that with the amount of cash
are going 150,000 car I think that where it gets a Prius is way cheaper. You can get a Prius for maybe 28,000 or whatever
for a decent one in the US and they also have leasing and ship as well, which is very common words like people will pay 100 bucks. But I think your point there's really there's wealth everywhere. He you really see it
as well. On the city of extremes, I think because you've got a tent city, just down the street. And then you've got the Hollywood Hills where Zac Efron lives in a you know $15 million mansion. So wealth versus fame
97 fine. did when you were growing up. Did you ever think about being famous? Not not growing up. Growing up. I always wanted to be an astronaut is a bit of fame that's associated. It wasn't even the fame. It was the experience of it. I've never
Sort of shied away from wanting any of that. I don't have any interest in. So could you have done the whole strong thing?
Neil Armstrong? Yeah.
do you think? Would you have except now that's time
to full on going to the moon to be the first person. Okay. Well, there's more to the International Space Station and back. That's it. How many guys doing that? They just said those two females that went very recently, they just did a mission, they probably go out. Maybe like maybe six flights a year, they might have the international space. How much did you actually look into doing this? Not that much. He's called the top five jobs when you're young what you say you want to be like astronauts their fame if I want to be famous, which I don't know what that even means. Because I told myself that I wanted to be famous by 19
And when you want it to be famous Look at me.
No one knows about us. You've been bitten by a mosquito, let's say
for is some sort of fucking mosquito slightly bigger, but it's
the thing that doctors don't put our hand around it. Yeah.
They usually don't know what else can be famous for a time. I remember looking up about applying for a job at the verge actually.
Within gaming culture, yeah, I think that the thing is that things have changed a lot to like, I think that what I the fame, the people that I thought were famous, growing up, were famous within what I was into. So it was like, technology. It was the, the tech entrepreneurs, it was the journalists covering it's got guys like Nick Bilton, who wrote, wrote a book called I think was hatching Twitter. And he he was
Really into like, that his job was writing about technology. Yeah. And so I thought when I had Melbourne geek and I had that all that sort of blogging and doing that, I thought that that was the area that I was going to go into to give you credit because I think that's, that's pretty dialed in understanding what you want to be famous for. Because I think most people would say, fame. I want to be famous, but they don't quite yet have a craft or something to be famous for. So you look at reality TV stars. I mean, that's the that's the that could be the road to I want to be famous with no, nothing attached. No. Like writer film. Yeah, producer like but I even I was thinking about it. Now thinking about liking the 11. I got really serious for a bit about going to the US and studying going to UCLA. My it teacher and American guy moved from the US, the year that he came
To our school, so, he was made to Jalen. Oh, that was so cool. And good nights and his mates know.
He would like it. It sounded like because Jalen was really big into the motorbike stuff. I think that my teacher was into that. We had photos with him and stuff like that. So seem legit. But um, he, I remember being on the website, and looking up, like doing that, like, I wonder how and the reason I didn't do it was it was like, you know, 30,000 minimum a year or something. And my grades weren't going to be good. So I dropped sort of knocked out the idea of doing uni and I was just going to start my own business, which I think is good I think these these pies Hollywood is eat around fine like the last night sort of sign. And it was like a tequila libel. My nose is flashing. So the critique he'll bottle the node flush to fame is fleeting. That's it.
Always like pro marketing around don't don't behave chase the fine because it's lady, but I think it is everyone. It changes people's view on people. Especially in this town. Like you're blowing door you're saying famous people was surprised that when we were filming that the Hollywood the Halloween pride how many punters was so excited about a camera by a big camera. Everyone was taking photos and people were asking for from the news in the town where that should say for you. Yeah, you think that that'd be desensitized? But then we got thinking I might people actually go out. Like I was with an actor at South by Southwest and he had a premiere. And we hung out with him in his hotel room, because he's like, if I go especially in this town, with this vibe, there's a festival on I'll just have people everywhere. Bumble
And so I guess there is that transaction that's going on that when you become famous you lose anonymity. anonymity, obviously. But then I guess you can't do with the things that you would normally do we look at the documentaries like the Lady Gaga and like Pete
easy so full on like it becomes this this sad about it. I don't want to be involved. Did you ever think that you're going to because you did the immersive what was that Hollywood immersive? Yeah. Was that just for presenting or for acting as well as anything not acting? And so did you ever think that you do acting? No, never. Never. I think I think
it would have to be just
me. Yeah. Just like sometimes. Yeah.
I think that's what I think you'd be good at that. Just like your own that's allowing yourself but then what about jackass Did you ever get into jackass and be like, oh,
Could be Johnny.
I love it even though I love watching it. Why didn't you think just because you want to know I don't know if I like hurting myself. I don't like doing that kind of shit. Remember I had a kid that I grew up with Ben. He was really good at it. And Reese Mitchell used to feel me being a jackass just hurting himself and it's like you have this like party bridal in some way where you're you're not thinking about the consequences you're just doing and you felt that you didn't have that in a lot of areas I did but not around the hurting hurting myself and jumping off stupid shit and not not at all. So talking about hurting yourself How you going to do this landscape?
Right To finish off this could go pear shaped because the other night, but what I think what happened the other night I download the lime app signed up, and there was a festival on that Halloween thing. And they locked off scooters. Yeah, so that everyone couldn't just riding on the scooters and dump them back.
I've got the line app here which I've just opened and it says it shows you that these two scooters at the front have half power of like half tank of energy gronk half tank battery half tank of battery. Oh there you go look at that. So you can see there's a map and there's the red that's why I didn't work someone had reason to lead into a raid area but it's all gone green red foil. So
you say yes because last last time you loaded it it was all red so when you've just refreshed it it's all green now if I care this is gonna work out i'll see you boys in a second so I'm so good. So Tommy is just heading heading off right now
give us a bit of an update on things with you know i i'm god I'm loving this. This is it's nice. So much fun need. Yeah, La La is amazing.
Any any other highlights?
I'm really keen at the moment.
I guess I have a bunch of experiences like your essays.
But before before I left mom was just like, Oh, this is this is a perfect place. Go Go experiment. Yeah, experiment. Yeah, literally Really? Yeah. So she obviously trusts Tommy and I enough that we're not going to Yeah, here we go. It says vaping we're hearing a beeping sound.
So it's that I guessing that's not good. That is vaping
Why is it stops? Why is it?
Why is the vaping it didn't work, but I lifted it. And so that's an alarm system saying that it's that it's not working that it's been taking moved and it doesn't want to be moved anymore.
on sidewalks. I mean, that's fighting hard. Can we please get a photo? Josh of you and I just at least doing
Titanic together? Yeah. Why wasn't it working? I wonder if it's something to do with
The my Australian credit card or something Australia and iTunes and downloading it says we're currently unavailable but we're working to bring your line scooters. Bring you live scooters. Hang on, let me just get out of this. I'm going to try it one more time here on the show so they've got a few rules.
I don't integrate them to it's very hard to write so he says Park properly. Yeah, it says do not ride on sidewalk or walk traffic 18 to 18 years or older to ride the scooter says you need to wear a helmet is required. I haven't seen and seen anyone wear a helmet. I think that that is in America. You don't have to wear a helmet so law on bikes. But so they say helmets required based on their terms and conditions not by maybe maybe government have forced it like if you're going to use it.
Right Alright, so we got the app. Here you guys. What do you have to do a scan of
unlocking, not unlocking, we're currently unavailable. That's very sad. You're never gonna be able to do that. If anyone who's watching on the Instagram Live has been here in the states and worked out how to use this, because that's the second time so it wasn't maybe what the geo fencing thing wasn't real it's just my fuckin could have a man Do you want to quickly read and a man before before we finish up? Yeah sure we get an email from Shannon.
First of all gronk Happy 500 episodes and Shannon sorry. So good. What an epic achievement that just automatically giving you sassy stopping
me. I just wanted to drop you guys a quick email to congratulate congratulate you what you have achieved in the last two years has been incredible and you all should be very proud. Lovely Tommy.
Tommy, your commitment to whatever you set your mind to is truly inspiring and something that I've taken and implemented into my everyday life. That's lovely.
Sorry, I just keep scrolling. Your dedication to your family to Amy and Bodie is another thing that are highly respected you. It's really lovely to hear you talk about them on the show, and how much you value quality time with your little family.
That's lovely. Lovely. Thank you, Shannon. Mr. 97. When Tommy said the other day that I made commented on how much she was loving hearing more of you throughout the show, I felt silly, but I was literally nodding along saying Yes me too proud of my son. It has been fantastic to listen to you from the start of your time at the daily talk show and to where you are now. You have such talent in this field and you should be so proud of how well you've integrated into the team. You're an incredibly well spoken young adult who has focused and Dr. Not to mention the commitment. You have made the
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brought out a more inquisitive and critical thinking side to me, I never knew I had and your honesty, when it comes to your life and how you live it is truly refreshing your ability to be vulnerable, and talk openly about personal struggles you have, it's something I think that sets you apart from others in the industry. And you should be really proud of that. That's lovely. Your vision and the way you talk about the future of the daily talk show is inspiring, and the confidence you have in yourself and your team even more. So. Thank you guys for putting out such a great show every day. I know I speak for many listeners when I say I genuinely look forward to
It popping up in my podcast feed HD. Congrats again on episode 500. And enjoy Li Hey Yes, just left a five star Apple review because I'm a massive gronk and had it done hadn't done it yet. Shannon Thank you so much. My lips By the way, absolutely burning yes I'm my good money getting better from the stuff. Yeah, we're in trouble we all look like we got lipstick on because they've gone bright red.
No thank you for the email. Shannon. Also Michelle pointed out should Michelle's she was listening in the early early days. We actually had her on the episode 50 or 40. Like that.
She's pointing out to remember, she was into all the bsm stuff. And she had a very good point. I think at the Halloween event,
doing shtick, we
were reacting over the top to the to the people on the change.
Well, the thing is, I didn't actually care about
feel like you're like, Oh God. Oh, where's I feel like I react to that been like yeah, I actually don't like it. I don't find it being that much of a thing.
I disagree. There was a woman chained to a guy and he was holding it and the chain was to her throat like a bit I mean it's a no I get it I get what you're saying but I think that I haven't fuckin saying that a for remind life of you.
Not within these context, I'm sure like within subcultures and stuff like it you see, you say references or imagery of what's normal to someone isn't normal to everyone. And I guess that part of it is it's fine to for us to react that way. If it came across as negative or judge judgmental, I don't think that that is our intention with it, you know, definitely not like you can do what you want. But you can also feel like I want no part of that.
And I don't want any part of that as a person. Yeah, I guess it but then you don't want any part of what I do in my life. I guess there is that element of
deciding, you know, through the way that we speak the way that I think anyway, it's like there's heaps of ways of living life. Everyone's got unique experiences. There's lots of things just because I
wouldn't go to a prostitute does that, does that mean that I'm judgmental to sex workers and things like that? No, everyone has their unique perspectives and insights that I can I might not necessarily be able to understand. But I think potentially in moments where we're quickly reacting back and get lost, and
I'll say this, drop the chain from around our throat. I wouldn't have made us be reaction.
Yeah, well, I think that i think that that's you applying some sort of judgment to it, which is, of course, which is changing a woman's throat walking down the street.
I think I still have this I think I would flat out have that same response delivers and stuff. It's like I've seen that before. I've been around people wearing that stuff. And I don't think that's what it was just the China and in her
holding her so is you're uncomfortable around it that. So there's an so there's consent. So two willing adults consenting to an experience
in think something's weird as fark. Yeah, I think that that's it. Yeah, I think it's I think it's weird as fuck. I think it's unusual, but it doesn't mean I think they're horrible humans. Yeah. What do you think? 97
Yeah, I mean, it's, it's, I mean, it's not something you see every day. Right. And it's, it is it is unusual and yeah, interesting and a little bit uncomfortable to say but it's like if they if they
If they want to do that, then by all means and like, yeah, I mean, make it perfect. I can see I can see the way that we reacted to it how that
could portray the idea that Oh, whoa, that's like, we're not having any of that. That's weird, that's wrong or whatever, I guess we just don't understand and potentially, in the way that you're framing it there. There's probably connotations of vibe, like domestic violence or things like that around like a woman with that type of thing, which I think is connecting an issue with a subculture, which might be misplaced, potentially, which is what I'm saying is I don't and I don't understand, I don't know, which is why I probably lean on not having an extreme response or opinion on a thing, if that makes sense. Anyway, I got it got the email, and we really respect Michelle. She's someone who's listened for such a long time and she opens us up
Everything from the you know, growing up trans and being on the, you know, in the 90s, being on the forum and helping people with suicide prevention and doing all that sort of thing. And I think
she has a unique insights that we don't have. And so I just want to make sure that we reflected it because,
you know, that was my intention anyway. And also, I might actually, I'm, I don't, I don't value the idea of being closed off. So, yeah, just bringing up anyway, it's a daily talk show. We love your emails. As you can say, we read out a couple just then. Hi, the daily talk show.com is the email I'm actually losing my voice which is horrendous. Really? Yeah. Well, you should feel it. Yeah, I feel maybe just bit dry. I don't have any Lacroix's left this one land. I'll have that you have that. Because last time that we have any loose you might want to see if there's any live coming from a lot. It was made in America. The last one I've always known. This is just probably lost the most
I've probably lost it all. Or it's gone. Hang on, maybe
lost them all. Oh, that's okay. It's gone. We can't say if that's okay. Hopefully it's still there anyway. Alright, so now the talk show say tomorrow guys and we're going to be an ally for the next. You know what? 20 episodes so stick around. Catch up soon, guys