#155 – A friendship situation with Derek Myers/

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conversation sometimes worth recording with Josh Johnson and Tommy jacket, the daily Talk Show episode. 155 Tommy jacket. And Derek Maya's. We're in the house Oh, yeah. Daddy. Derek, thanks for coming on the show, buddy. My pleasure. Boys. You just call and I will come around. And he did he like, and just a quick setup for Derek. He was on very early days. I reckon you would like top one of the top five. Well, first five, top five. I don't want to today's top five as well. The top five top 10

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videos within the first five of guests on our show. And Derek has a scooter factory. very quirky cat, I would like to say and very understated. podcaster I think it more so for himself than anybody because we see Josh and I think you're absolutely talent. Derek and. Yeah. And he's blushing is absolutely. lashing.

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Well, that's the one of the few podcasts that I'm listening to. while I'm away. I'm currently in South of France right now. And nice. about to head over to Turkey. But yeah, Derek. Plugging, plugging him into my ears. Yeah, whenever he has a new new episode.

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We can't have one is a good bit of. Yeah, we wanted to come on the show. Sorry. Josh. Just if you're if you're a first time listener, Josh. Yeah, he's on the other side of the world. Derek and I are in Collingwood in Melbourne. And we're taking advantage of technology to do this. This this show five days a week. But last week, Josh, I can safely say it was my backup. I don't think you came out and said this. We need to make an apology and I say way, but I'll do it. But last week, we're talking about Big Brother. Actually, that was your fault that we even started talking about Big Brother. Yeah.

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Well, I brought up axle Whitehead, which I think he was on Australian Idol anyway. But it all started on Axel Whitehead, and ended up somewhere between hot dogs in a turkey slide. Yeah.

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And I have to apologize to hot dogs. Who if you have no idea. He was a contestant on a reality show 15 years ago. So you probably don't know who he is. But he was quiet it was it was quite big for for the show at that time. Anyway, I said that he was involved in the two he slept incident. I define the block. He wasn't poor bastard. And

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luckily, his name's hot dogs. I feel like if you can't define my hot dog, so I think you're pretty side if it was like a real name. I would feel a little bit uncomfortable. Yeah. And,

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and someone who came to mind after the conversation. I know, we even talked about it on the show. And that was Derek because you have a Finnerty

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I'd rather

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I do I've got a little bit of history with with big brother and it goes back probably longer than what I've even talked about.

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And it's evolved a bit of confessional I guess when is this the diary room. This is a

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big brother, I've got a problem everyone's chasing

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what happened was when I introduced Big Brother, they the very first season I wasn't really even aware in my kind of awareness. In other words, it probably was happening, but I just never noticed that it was even a TV show. So what it was the internet so there was a big brother website, and I could sit there and you sit there all day in my office and just flow just click kitchen and then click bathroom, and it with the camera on edited, we just go into the different rooms. And so it was just perfect. Basically big

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where or you know, or taking an interest in what other folk get up to and how they interact. So was

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this was it a TV show as well, or you just hadn't discovered the edited version? Yeah, that's it.

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Oh, wow, you're my first Hawk was the voyeurism, not the TV style. So the whole editing thing was another bit of magic that I grew to really love.

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Interesting. So

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Josh, and then. So Derek, you ended up

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basically going to Queensland every year at some point to go say, Did you go to say the finale? Or would you just go say, random one? Well, I never a cause of our members have asked us a secret society did go to a couple of finale to, or semi finales, or whatever, but no, just mid season, we get the tickets. And I think you're saying the other day that I went on as like a holiday tour kind of thing. No, no, no, no, no, this was not

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this was

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like a rock

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tour then gone Tiki, I guess. So we actually just our group, the BBs, the Melbourne, big brother society. There's probably about 10 of us or something like that. And we would just literally just book out a penthouse suite, in Surfers Paradise and just booked some tickets for an eviction he and just go and just literally just get completely poleaxed and act like what was the demographic like of the group? Well, mostly more Well, I was I have to say I was the oldest but I was probably an hour to do some math, but I wasn't as I was, I am now how old

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how long ago just roughly how many years ago was if I'm guessing, a mastermind about maybe 12 years ago. ish. Okay, when it kicked off. I can't remember the dates. But um, anyway, that most were a bit younger. So we had basically it was a lot of writers,

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bloggers, basically, the generation before you guys doing what you do, but yeah, technical, but these guys yeah. Or, you know, intellectuals. I was probably the only non kind of creative

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Yeah, so yes, in the group looking.

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So this is 12 years ago, you were a part of a group was it through a Facebook page? Or was it through? What was it through like a No, no, we're just real friends.

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Real Friends. It wasn't we didn't come together because of our love for for big brother. Okay, so

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a bunch of mates create the society it's basically what people are doing these days with married at first sight is like upon reflection looking back 12 years ago it intrigues me for its uniqueness and I'll say weirdness because I love you and your roommate insane it seems way does it

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say we

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don't tiptoe around that look the big brother has left a thing that doesn't go away and that is if you say you're into big brother back then people go if I can if I can what you know you just get people look at your sideways ago you're not you're not being serious I

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yeah and that still happens downstairs sweet baby Tom down there you know he just like shaking his head just not understanding whereas my nephew's 22 years old and he's doing a live Facebook after show bachelor cannot grab on and everyone's into the ironic reality TV fan and that's what we were doing basically ironic fun we were having a three day on you know completely unchained weekend on the Gold Coast with only one thing tying it together and that was my big brother dream world experience the day Andrew was the best bit the cameras

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were in the wrong place they should have been in the Big Brother societies you can

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see

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but you can say yeah

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well you you'll see as if you look back at the I don't know what episodes but you say is in the crowd there with foil hats and girls might banners up, you know, saying hey, you know, Hey, Mike, I'm Did you ever and stuff like,

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did you ever feel? Did you ever feel that big brother lost its way? Like having started watching early on? Did it look like and how'd it like? Because I remember hearing that sort of conversation. How did Big Brother actually changed for the worst? Do you think?

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Oh, you're saying for the worst. But when you're when you're in it. For the irony. It's just better and better. The more fuck ups and the more ridiculous decisions they production make, I suppose is the better at it started off with normal people and weirdos. And that bloke who got in the kitchen sink and washed his nuts,

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cats is

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all there. But I'm glad you're retailing it saying that, hey,

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you know all these ridiculous people with the ridiculous ideas of how to live in in front of cameras. But then it sort of evolved in look like they were peeking in choosing and the you know, people would go Are they just trying to pick beautiful people and, you know, or, or, or deliberately choosing pitches. It's like yeah, you don't just watch The Bachelor or something like that now and it's the same shit. It's funnier and funnier. Now I'm am far more interested in the clever edits and stuff. People go nuts. They edit it to make him look bad

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stuff. Yeah, I love it. What

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What do you think like 28 gang? Big Brother rates like Tom, you mentioned the Bachelor. Do you think that there is? Has there ever been a better reality show them because I don't know. Because I haven't really haven't watched any after that

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God show. Did you ever get into heaven saying God I got into that it was was learned out. They absolutely nailed that. It's interesting. You know, I'd like to think that there's hundreds of reality shows that have been in existence. And you see like these unicorns that come through and they've modeled jersey shore them done God Sure. and a bunch of other ones. And I got hooked on that. I was probably 20 at the time and it was just it was debauchery it was it was like gross but somehow was like just on the precipice that could be the word for today Oh my word just yeah just on the precipice of things becoming

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they're very taboo like you know actually it's not too boo it being sexual sexual assault or like it being sailors, like you cannot do that like a show like the original jersey shore would not fly today it was you know absolute debauchery, but I think that's why I was like, people like, holy shit, look at this. They're going so far. And it absolutely took off. These guys made so much money the contestants and it was just it was unbelievable and so that's the probably the I actually watched I actually watched back at the afterwards we did the episode on Friday watch back the turkey slap, like the coverage and I actually couldn't watch the entire turkey slap saying, like, just the sort of predatory sort of nature of them. Like, oh, Kimmy for a sec. She's like, all wise. I not just committed was really fucking gross. Do you remember? Derek and I was like, young at the time. I don't think I was able to really sort of compute the like, how bad it was being a bit old. Like, what was the vibe? Like from your group of mates? Did you think it was all just a bit of a laugh? Or was an odd when

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someone when someone Fox up on reality TV it's great,

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right? But when Yeah, but but. But that was just like, No, you grown up comes steaming in from the back here. Brian going fine. This is

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shit. You know, like, you can let you just like laughing at Donald Trump. You know? Yeah, you go obviously. Shit. Because even though they're going to get condemned me, you go. This process is happening and split second and snapped easily. And it's just, it's just like, well, they're gonna get in trouble. They're gonna get booted off. It's all going to go haywire. The Prime Minister's gonna have any Did someone who was it was it. Yeah,

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and I don't know if I answered all that locket to paint it

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didn't you end up running a fish and chip shop going on is red.

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Very similar. But yeah,

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you just go now this shit. Because people it's still exposed to ship things. Yeah.

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And it doesn't matter what the repercussions are. Sheet sticks. And if people say it and go on telly. That's fine. You can't guarantee right. So where

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was your sister condemning it.

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So. So where was your negative? Like, where was your sort of annoyance? So anger? It wasn't specifically the person that did it. Or was it do you actually think it was bigger issue? It was actually Big Brother as a production for airing getting, giving it sort of like, Well, yeah, what's your thought process around

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it? It gets to the point where you go our European European shit if it's not if you need to, if you need to air this. And it's the social dangers that was referring to then. Yeah, is that shit? I wasn't. No one was applauding channel, whatever it was, 10 was trying to be non, you know, non supportive,

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you know, channel 31 or whoever was putting on

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Upload. Yeah, I know, no one's uploading them for that bravery or anything like that. There's not a it's just, it's just

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not it wasn't on you. Just kind of. Yeah,

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you know, that hopefully? Did they learn their lesson? Or were they Morris? incidents like that?

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No, I didn't. I

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I know. I think that's sort of the, the infamous one to you, Derek, you know, with big brother. That sort of, to me, seems like a bit of a obsession that you went through. Can you just describe to us the different in the last 15 years, your main obsessions, I guess probably finishing at podcasting where you are. Now, what the, what's the obsessions of Derek if you were to put it in chapters? Well,

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I'm happy to answer that question. But I wouldn't consider the big brother an obsession. But I'm at the Gold Coast

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Florida anyway.

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So but it was I guess it was kind of, I guess, the peak of a friendship situation that was getting wild, you know, like a lot of rock mates and lots of partying and it was it was pretty It was a hectic lifestyle and that was just that probably iconic sort of another symbol of how who gives a shit it got when you just make a whole thing out of that

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time. I love that title. But I also love that like the friendship situation is

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to describe a friendship as well. Like think I've got a I've got a bit of a friendship situation and what did you have kids at the time now they younger than that now there's actually a funny story that may get me in a strife. So back when

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I'm good when I would might have some insight

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where women I must have been after I'd been to a couple of days in a row. And it was time to go with again.

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You flew the Gulf Coast more than month.

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Oh, yeah, it was it. We did it every year. You're obsessed.

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So

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we were we were planning on having a baby right? The first one baby sweet baby Tom not the one downstairs or this one? Yeah,

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well, the

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one that just walk past so we were planning on having a baby and my wife's gonna you know, I don't know if you know the, you know, the dream when you're planning it. Like, all right, I'm gonna have this kind of vitamins or you know, you've got her and she's got your old you gotta you know your

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baby better her suppose it has to

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be better.

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Well,

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so she's she's gone. You can't come back. Because when you come back, that's the time

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for doing it. I suppose for the right time for the most chance of getting pregnant. So she's gone so you can't get wasted for all weekend. Yeah,

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going.

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Oh,

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you have to decide. She goes. What do you mean? I said you can only ban me from from getting smashed or hookers but you can't

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and I'll let me

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I have never even been close to to seeing a prostitute good but I did was it was a joke right? Maybe she's talking about she didn't know it was a joke at the time. I'm going Woods it's your choice

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alright so she goes just just don't get smashed

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now there's no way I'm gonna just try and prove a point

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so off we went. She knew I was most of the gang would girls like it was only one or two blokes yeah

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man shout out to hot man local photographer

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yeah

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one of the NBS my compadre yeah

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I like the dairy things will be listening awesome anyway he will be

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so anyway so went off and probably got more ways than I've ever been on this weekend and came back and I was just on the couch just terrified of being summoned to the chamber

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you know like nope I create not because the condition of my seed but just just because I just was broken

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and she walked into Landry

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and she walked in and she just put the mystic down on the table and went, relax. job's done. Oh, no, it's free for well, so there you go. So it was already kind of be a daddy. Amanda was it? That was probably the, I think it was the last time I went

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to

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that. And that was the last time we had

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another child.

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I mean, so what were they? What were the obsessions? Derek if, if there isn't an obsession you know? What were your obsessions?

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Well I'm obsessed with a few things like I'm obsessed with been obsessed with the scooters obviously for since around about or probably before that era. But that kind of built into a business

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and

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and different aspects of them to

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once I'm often I just block them right out. I got a bit obsessed with a bikes recently, we're going to be a little bit

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disillusioned, I suppose with the Melbourne people,

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when people fall able access type, just sweeping the world. You know, there's magic or form of

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commuting, and then you get

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along with a battery.

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God who you cheating, right? I mean, I'm a fucking big, fat old middle aged guy who's not

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driving a four wheel drive. You fucking driving drive to work five times a day. You put your tights on for half an hour and suddenly calling me cheating. Yeah,

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it's I mean, it's, it is a big subculture, and yeah, judges, right, explain what an E bike is, or sorry, electric bicycle, electric assist bicycle. So to a bicycle, legally, so has pedals. And it has a motor electric motor that assists you know, and they there's some, like, epic ones you can buy. I've seen one that's about 10, 15 grand. It's like a downhill mountain bike, and it's going to it's got the motor on it. So it's electric assist as well,

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but I think it's a legal right Delphic like they go

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like no ID, kilometers an hour. Yeah,

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that they're not they're not

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they're not illegal to ride on private land, but they're illegal to pretend they're a bicycle. They've banned

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them in some national parks, because they tearing them out like motorbikes to Yeah,

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and there's sort of silent as well, so they kind of come crazy Wipeout bush walkers. Yeah.

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Well, I'm Josh, we were having Derek and I were having this conversation the other day because I was obsessed with motorized scooters. Captain. Yeah, had one I had one a couple of boys had one would just, I got for my e seven birthday, everyone gave me cash. I just remember counting that cash and just getting my scooter. I was so pumped and our that was just gone. Sour legal selling. I just remember as a kid, like, went like, I loved the idea of them. But we sort of in our family, I think maybe as a mechanism so that my parents could get away with not getting me what one but they'll like every time would see someone writing passing it will mom would have a big spiel about how a legal nightmare. So they are checking because you were a couple years younger, it was probably just at the time because they by the time I'd finished with them, they become illegal. But there's a real culture around that like Petro Petro whippersnappers are like they're

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still around up and down he's really yeah and

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so that so you've seen the evolution of this stuff there is like real subcultures of these fun toys that have come out when something is released definitely the what happened was that the boat the bargains discovered you could you could get away with bringing in these things they called monkey box. They're like little tiny little mini bikes. And now under they worked within the law and then the bargains rules cashing in their super and bringing containers from genre of these these shitty little things. And then and then they might have elite and then they just changed the law and they all got tripped up and they'll stuck with other market with flooded with these useless little mini bikes that Yeah,

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no one could use on the I do

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remember the mini by

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they were doing some one on one. So this young kid who's writing one and he's a woman and she or a young person, they died. Yeah. And so then they really put effort into it. It's Did you ever do you ever get a minibar. Now I

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know I haven't had a mini box until a kid from the

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Hamish and Andy episode that we're talking about racing around around about that we all knows monkey box. That's what they were. That's right. It wasn't Singapore some way. Yeah,

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it was Southeast Asia somewhere. Yeah, but crazy. Hang on just quickly, but the superannuation people legitimately dipping into that

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well you know, I might have just made that up but but the Santa

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right

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but what I'm saying is they they got on it was like a, you know, like Wall Street in the air invested

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in

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Bitcoin or whatever. They just went, well, this

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is going off tap people paying money for these. You can get it from China,

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but then they just banned them. That was the end of ridiculous

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so Derek, I have sort of a half of the memory of finding out about you before the screwed of stuff. Are you making like sculpt metal sculptures? or some shit? Did I completely mad that was gone? No, it was me.

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I wonder if I can and that

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it was actually Derek I remember him telling me a story about it. But I thought this is a good opportunity to find out whatever k you would ask. That's Yeah, yes.

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Yes. I came

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back from living in the UK when I was in my 20s and there was an I thought I'd like to make like the idea of making wrought iron things like candlesticks and stuff, but I had no idea on how to do that. So I started up this little you know, down here in Abbotsford. You know, it's now Abbotsford tools it was like a squat was like top cat was crazy is feral is like just rock band squatting next door and

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we got to hear Augie matches first you know rehearsal kind of thing next door and we and I was making candles and candlesticks and stuff and I went out on the piste place called the club and I was playing pool with this this hottie and she said I said what do you what do you do now she said what do you do and I said I'm a sculptor just destroy that lie

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absolute lie and she has all what do you do I said I'll just makes you know sculptures,

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faculty, Man of Steel.

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And I said, What do you do? She goes I'm a journalist actually I need to do a story on a sculptor

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give me a data

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okay so I wake up the next morning with she just hanging over ever and just went into where I was like, had bits of metal in a welder where I was making little candlesticks to sell at the market and went right sculpting. I just made these sculptures ended up putting some in a gallery and so but that's really from that it became a sculptor for a while she

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went back to the more more useful furniture and whatnot.

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Is that how the podcasting happened as well? Yeah,

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pretty much

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how is that what's been the evolution of that like so last time we spoke when when you're on the show, we were at your old dyno converted into a studio you were you had hammocks up and you were doing an Instagram show about vinyls called the Ozzy vinyl show

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where are you at now? Right so

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I think traditionally you would say if you're going to advise someone who's interested in doing a podcast someone that had an idea and you'd say just go in and do it get hold of a little recorder some Mike's get stuck in might get stuck in sort of that but don't make it sound to shit yeah

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throw all your policy on the end of it

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you have a crack so that means but

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never heard of that have a

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crack your policy all right it's like

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a real like Australians is like your wake is pace if you don't just have a crack you posted a

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fucking around okay where's

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my when you talk about obsession before

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I will separate podcasting from building a podcasting studio because that was an obsession I admitted put my hand up the building owning the studio I loved it you know I've been working in this place for 20 years it's been welding and stinky burning steel it's you know it's full of fumes and petrol now and oil and filth and grime and it was just awesome to just a work in this nice clean room and and make something nice you know I got a kick out of that but I got obsessed you know, with the equipment and all that sort of thing but I say you don't have to do that we all know you don't have to do that but I love that but now

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my actual podcast I think is I think of them as a different obsession all together than building the room hmm yeah

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interesting what has been the biggest and learning around it all

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getting on I was actually faster last time we spoke I was talking maybe before maybe on a about how I get super super nervous I'm like it's not sort of not stage fright because when you're on the stage it's just game on but have the pre prior to that you know like if someone's says Be the best man at my wedding in two years time the next two years sheet and for me you're on peel

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and I get super super nervous but doing a actually doing a regular podcast yourself has my like when you said I'll come on today I'm gonna yeah I didn't think twice about it. Yeah

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I did you know obviously I learned to do a bit of research I made sure I knew what hot dogs was doing these days and what he's hot dogs

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and why Josh just quickly he created a cheat sheet podcast

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just run through we need to run through the big brother cheat sheet This is

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oh he's gonna say Sarah Excel. Google Drive set up. This is nothing but

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but so here's number one. It's just we've already covered it. How Season One was about voyeurism so glad you are. Yeah, yeah. Even if you didn't

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experiment with Eliza. And Fraser

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Hey, I don't know if you've got time. Yes, the salt. Yeah, we do. So when Big brother started and was on TV and it became more more more known. I guess after season one of the middle of season one. So after my whole initial voyeurism thing, we were sitting in the lounge room in Napier straight Fitzroy kind of being Oh yuppies

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and

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talk about

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those decades. How, what's wrong with these fucking people that

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do that on telly up? Surely they know. Yeah, can they sit there and beach like the whole world can listen to them and rah rah rah. And one of us let's say me say it came out with a suggestion. Maybe you just forget that quickly. Maybe it's human nature. Or maybe they especially pick stupid people. Right? So we took an old video camera, the experiment we put it in the lounge room pointing at us and hit record and then went back to sitting there we weren't playing ourselves like we accuse producers of oh they must

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goggle box yeah the original

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we weren't even watching Big Brother we were just sitting there knowing the cameras pointing it and just playing to it and I swear

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about an hour later

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someone off fuck the camera oh yeah and we all of us admitted that were things that we'd said in the last hour that we would not cope with being on TV that was sitting there trying for an hour to be aware of it and we forgot and we consider ourselves pretty intelligent Oh 100% you get swept up the excitement of it all it's you see why it and I know how to manufacture environment that brings this out plus I think knowing I mean even if you turn it on you will forget at some point and you will still be on and the cameras are still rolling what else

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he got model even with with I was just gonna say even with podcasting you can't like probably once every two episodes I say something that I regret has that been something that you've had to cope with Derek with your podcasting well yeah

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really I think I've got a live

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a pretty heavy buffer I'm think I'm a 46 with a modern buffer which is problematic because sometimes it just go That's why I kind of host is really handy because I just stopped going I got a bit of a buffer is probably a little bit more intense than the actual product itself but now I think I've got alive buffer probably overthink things like before this I went oh I wonder you know one of our gang I better not name names but one of our gang is you know quite a lot of them are pretty grown up and successful now in their fields

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I thought all the hobbit not put them in it for being you know wasted in the Gold Coast and stuff like

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hang on there's just one here hang on this just one I'm just ready What's this that one night with Gretel colon what

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jacking

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the let's just say something like the the this is the cell filtering type of thing you know he's have to out to the Jags the happen. Yeah. You talking about that? I think that's why you and Dan work really well on what now? Because Dan goes down these rabbit holes. Like determine that all codes are just a bunch of pedophiles. And then you're talking you're simultaneously selling in why you want to start a cold. And then you have this Brian fuck were you like, but I'm not a pedophile. Stop fucking saying that. Every code is made up of the better files. Yeah. All

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right. Dan, is Dan he got hooked. Like he came on as a guest of there's a there's a podcast that I produce code more than a wheel and which is poetry. podcasts got specialized. Good.

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I'm sorry. I didn't mean to

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only show notes too. But I

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stopped by golden

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but uh. But But Dan came in as a guest because he's a writer as a playwright. So then I my host was light so I snap 40 man it's probably unethical and checked him on the microphone and put him on as a guest on my show on your part. Yeah,

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it was good. It was meant to be Emily

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Whelan yeah he did I say that

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ethics but he's your friend yeah but then then he kind of contact me and said oh that was I love that I really loved it and Oregon Come on man let's go

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yeah that's I mean that's evolution of creativity it's something you didn't plan on it that's when a lot of the base like this podcast Josh and I are doing we have known each other for a while we've been It was the first kind of thing actually the second thing after doing some YouTube videos but we just didn't realize it and on this kind of works good good good Banda

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yeah when you don't force it I think that's the that's the key give us two more Derek to more interesting facts that we from your factual he taught it mmm it says here

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I think season one there was a guy who had dreadlocks and they the other housemates were calling him stinky yeah right probably just had natural odors something and I think but you know the shallow teenagers you know what they're like and you I'm back in the stinky guy but anyway he he shaved his dreadlocks off to try and get more attention and everything on the show while he was on there

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yeah but he got a victim but in those early days people were going hell for leather into famous dudes but it was tricky for him around Fitzroy because one of the you know an ex housemate even when they're fresh would sit by the fire in a local bar and everyone would especially not notice them right you know that that fits

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the north side thing as well right that's like

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I want to rally against that because yeah woody What do you go on reality TV show for five to sort of yeah exactly or or anything like I want to be yeah i'd love people and notoriety you want it's you yeah

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but anyway this guy one of my

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one of the NBS we she got us tickets

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shout out to Holly c she she's listening that was our special secret radio now

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see she comes on this show and does in jokes she got

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out of it is

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he's planting seeds just to make sure these makes it listens

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for you so the she got us tickets to see him and him the Tennis Center or one of the

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I went that you became that would have been what

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over 10 years ago I was a legit grown up by the

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way. Yeah,

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but you guys like every scumbag like teenage thug yet from the whole of out of Melbourne, like deep out of Melbourne was all at this one place at the one time and then we were with good tickets down on the floor with this guy who came along with us. Todd, come out of the Big Brother house class. Right. And so we used to fit rose Don't worry about it, because people specially ignored. JOHN Safran was standing like 10 feet away Did you say rejoined our crew were having a chat with him and then all these people these kids started going I'm gonna go to study and it kicked off so hard like the whole thing was pointing the whole arena like English soccer fans were going tardy, tardy, and that all these, like, storm trooper like, all the security guards in the whole building ended up making a wall around us and all these kids are breaking through and running up, just to touch him and Tony, some Colima cuts in I didn't know they just knew his famous and they were going to town. It was really frightening and really bizarre. JOHN

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Safran during that moment, he was

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gone

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on five minutes to,

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you know, I went to that content with Richard stops, right? Yes. And he was really famous back then. And I remember walking through he was my mates, cousin at the time. And we got a limo in there we went underground lift up and we're walking through, but yeah, it was he was famous and people were I just remember that was like my first taste of being around someone that famous good to know that you are they having the same experience, man, it was just insane. Do you remember chatting today? Tony? I remember that. But I wouldn't have had any. I wouldn't have any idea at that point. It

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was it was nuts. And it was just, you know, it's like that thing when an election happens. You go, Well, that's what everybody is not like me.

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Is there any limousine nowadays that isn't bit naff. like can you actually take a limousine at like as a high profile celebrity person like it feels like it's something that's gone completely off the radar it seems like limousines are exclusively for

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bargains going to ballet who need to get to the airport if as long as it says as long as the number plate says limb for hire or something on it

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I think if I if I was going to be getting up there in the super fame I think I would send my my mates in the limo and turn up in the old Subaru Forester

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yeah I think I'd prefer like a Bentley sitting in the back of a Rolls Royce or Bentley

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one simple I just want a Tesla yeah it's I get like I not really into cars but I feel like the I was speaking to him made about it the other day it's like the Tesla is just to sexy car especially like all the inside the the the electronics and stuff like

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there is a company that does all show for cars Tesla's I've only got Tesla's says I can share this only in Tesla's there's something for everybody just do that instead and don't even have to buy one now I'd have our

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one night thanks for making the hundred meter walk.

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It's been hauling wood I haven't missed I haven't missed one word of your show by the way I listened to you it's like a Friday

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good

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plenty of driving out to my parents house time for other

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perfect perfect I'm glad and yeah everyone make sure you listen to Derek's podcast what now if you actually go on to iTunes or the podcast app and you see what other people are listening to what now is one of the ones when they look when you look at our show

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every just basically us all listening to our ourselves in a big circle jerk right we want to do it makes me it will be on the plane to the Gold Coast for a weekend together all our local passes. I think we should 100% should do some sort of podcast trip but it's the the daily talk show everyone hi at the daily talk. show.com if you want to send us an email maybe you might be the previous contestant on Big brother is a contestant what would you call it is as my in house my Yeah. If you're if you're listening You are a big brother has my last night Okay. Sorry guys.

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Bye bye.