Six And Out With Ryan Jon

Josh: The Daily Talk Show. It's a Daily Talk Show episode 402.

Tommy: Ryan John in the middle.

Josh: Yeah, thank you, Ryan John.

Ryan: Congratulations on 400.

Josh: Thank you, buddy.

Tommy: It's been a fucking good day. Mason's wearing a fresh outfit that he bought with his mummy.

Ryan: You are looking good, Mason.

Tommy: And we got you in the building. Plus we also had a bit of activity happen today on our Instagram. Check it out. There was a emergency exit, emergency escape, emergency involving multiple firefighters. Yeah, that's all police. That's all we'll say.

Josh: I just wanted to talk about Mr. 97's clothing for just a moment, mate.

Tommy: I said to him when he got here, I said, oh, nice jeans, because the kids worn the same coloured pair of— I mean, I'd never give you compliments on your fashion, Josh, because you wear the exact same outfit.

Josh: So really, I only have to do it once. Once you did the first time.

Ryan: Yeah.

Josh: And then I don't need another compliment.

Tommy: But baby, geez.

Josh: Yeah, it's very, it's, it's very nice. So, but the thing I found interesting was, I don't know if you're like this, Ryan, but Mr. 97 has shopped all at one shop.

Ryan: Yeah, I'd do that. Yeah, be efficient. Yeah, especially when you get clothes like that. Look at how it fits his body.

Josh: It does. He's got a good rig, doesn't he?

Tommy: Yeah, he's almost a Country Road model, but it's definitely from Kmart. So he's a Kmart model.

Josh: He won't have that because he knows he got it from industry.

Ryan: And he's not cheap.

Josh: He keeps talking about industry.

Tommy: He's an industry kind of guy. I mean, I will have you know that it is a It's as good as Cotton On these days. It's maybe one step up from Cotton On. Cotton On's like fast fashion. It's just, it's cheap.

Ryan: I mean, gets the job done.

Josh: Fast fashion.

Tommy: I'm wearing it.

Josh: Fast food. I mean, these things aren't that bad. I think they get a bad rap, don't you think?

Tommy: You criticise McDonald's, but you know you eat it. I'm wearing a Cotton On jumper right now.

Josh: But I mean, TJ, you did a brand, um, I was chucking out receipts the other day. Like general pants, $280.

Tommy: Oh, you saw that?

Josh: You checked that out? Yeah. Well, I was like, is Tommy going to need it? You know what? If that fucking guy's got some sort of scheme going on where that's tax deductible.

Tommy: No, you can't tax deduct it.

Ryan: You guys are on camera.

Tommy: It used to be.

Josh: Uniform.

Tommy: We've got an accountant in the fucking building, mate. He's got an accountant's degree. Thank you.

Josh: Is that what it's called? An accountant's degree?

Tommy: Accounting degree. Yeah.

Ryan: Accounting. You've got—

Josh: I didn't even think about it. This is how fucking naive I am. I thought to be an accountant, it was like a PT. It's like a fucking 6-week course and you're an accountant. No, it's like a full-blown—

Ryan: Well, it's a degree. And then once you finish your 3 or 4-year degree, you have to do your CPA or CA stuff.

Josh: I've got no idea. So you're talking about honours. When you said honours, I'm like, I didn't know you could do honours from a 6-week.

Tommy: Maybe it's the disrespect you have for accountants because there's been so many shitty ones.

Josh: A lot of them are so fucking dumb given that they've gone through so much education.

Ryan: What's happened to you? Why are you all off accountants?

Josh: Oh no, I like accountants, but I just think they're just from Communication point of view, but also just like, I think it comes down to communication, their ability to talk about complex things in a clear way. That's not their shit.

Ryan: That's why I got hired. I was hired at a big firm when I finished at uni, and I was very aware that everyone else was a lot smarter than me. And I said to them after I got the job, because they hired about 20 graduates, and I said, just a quick question, Why'd you hire me? 'Cause everyone was big fancy high school into Melbourne uni and I was, you know, pot smoking art school into Swinburne. And they just went, oh, because you can actually talk to the clients and explain these complex things in their language.

Josh: It's just a couple of buckets.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, it's why Barefoot is connected with all the Gronks. Yesterday we were interrupted during the show. We had Jase Hawkins on and the doorbell went off. Surprise to us, we got a lovely bunch of flowers from Gemma Watts. Can you pass over these, 3D Dill?

Josh: Our first ever flowers.

Ryan: That's nice.

Josh: Have a look at that.

Tommy: Oh, look at this.

Josh: Give them a sniff.

Ryan: Yeah, that's maybe that's why I feel like I've got a cold today, so much pollen in the studio.

Tommy: I mean, all I do is go straight to the website to see how much these cost and wowee!

Ryan: Did you really?

Tommy: Gemma Watts, you absolute stud.

Josh: I didn't check. I just assume they're beautiful flowers.

Ryan: Dailyblooms.com.au.

Josh: Great brand integration.

Tommy: Josh, you got an email. You got a text message from Gemma.

Josh: Oh yeah.

Tommy: What did it say?

Josh: Oh no, well, she will just— I think I must have said thank you or something like that. It was in the IG DMs.

Ryan: I assumed the flowers were for me from Gemma for saying thanks for letting me wear your jacket.

Tommy: Oh, that could be it.

Ryan: Because I noticed in your hype reel for 400 shows that my jacket made more appearances than I did. I didn't appreciate that.

Tommy: What did Gemma say?

Josh: I'm just trying to think.

Tommy: You haven't got it.

Josh: No, no, well, I just had a moment of like, fuck, right, I put Ryan in the video, didn't I? I put you in the video.

Tommy: Yeah, he was in the video.

Josh: Yeah, good. Not enough. It was slightly stressful trying to fucking remember everyone. No, you were in it as well.

Ryan: I better have been.

Josh: You were fucking in the video. We tagged you anyway. Yeah, yeah, you did for the likes but not for the actual face.

Tommy: I asked you to fucking pull this up before. This is absolutely pathetic.

Josh: Here we go. This is, this is, uh, we chat a lot. She says boys never get flowers. And it doesn't seem fair.

Tommy: There's one problem, Gemma. You sent some beautiful flowers to a bunch of gronks that are in an office with no vase.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: So what do we do? What are we going to put these in?

Josh: I mean, yeah, there is—

Tommy: They're too big. If this was a smaller bunch—

Josh: And I walk, I walk to work. So you're currently putting the glass—

Tommy: We actually do have— We've been working with Barefoot Investor and we have the buckets that we've been using as props. Dale, can you grab that fucking yellow bucket over there?

Josh: Which one? There's 40 in the corner. We've got 40 buckets.

Tommy: Yeah, I'll grab it. I mean, Gemma, don't be offended that we are using a bucket 'cause it's a gronk move.

Josh: But do we need to then put— I see the amount of work. Tommy, he's got the bucket for you. The bucket. Sorry, I see—

Ryan: He's gonna sit here for the whole episode.

Josh: I see the work that Bri puts into when we get flowers. She like, puts them in the kitchen and she cuts shit up and she separates them all and she puts them in.

Ryan: It's a lot of hard work.

Josh: There's so much involved.

Tommy: Maybe I'll just leave them in there.

Josh: It actually works quite well, doesn't it?

Tommy: We're so thankful. Yeah, no, seriously, this is— this can go up on the shelf over here.

Josh: Okay. Yeah, I think we still— oh geez, really? I can actually see the pollen now. Right now my asthma's set off. Oh yeah, we won't mention that.

Tommy: But yeah, thank you, Gemma Watts. Uh, we appreciate it. We very—

Josh: the pockets have fallen over, but the flowers, the flowers are fine. Yeah. Um, no, so no, we're talking, we're just talking about the, um, General Pants. And so you did a big shop at General Pants?

Tommy: Well, I bought some jeans that, um, like, mate, I spent $400 on a pair of jeans and I was 19. Barefoot would have been ropeable.

Ryan: How much were you earning back then?

Tommy: Not enough.

Josh: Yeah, somehow he also had a red BMW.

Tommy: It wasn't a red BMW.

Josh: A BMW with red leather seats.

Tommy: Yeah, mate, get that right.

Josh: Well, I just always imagined—

Tommy: Never buy a red BMW.

Josh: But what did it cost? Do you remember what it cost, the actual car?

Tommy: $31,000.

Josh: It's not how much it actually costs though once you do the math.

Tommy: Oh yeah, yeah.

Josh: I mean, I just—

Tommy: the way it was a stupid purchase. But yeah, so the general pants stuff, I bought jeans back in the day. I used to spend more money on jeans. They'd last me longer. I've been buying shitty jeans and they just rip in the crotch.

Josh: These are Levi's, the ones that you looked at mine just then. I've got Levi jeans, this shouldn't be happening.

Tommy: I mean, it's you then, because the jeans I've brought, they, that I've bought— don't fucking interrupt me.

Josh: No, well, just, I feel like that's why I never say brought. You just did.

Ryan: You just did though.

Tommy: No, no, no, I will always correct myself and I won't finish with brought.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: Because you've been brought up well. No, no, no, I was, I was, I was— I won't say brought, I'll always correct myself, but I will fuck it up. Performance. I was at a show, it was a pole dancing show. No, sounds bad. Yeah, it was a pole dance, it was an end of year pole performance. It still sounds bad.

D: It was—

Josh: whose was it? It was serious, it was like a huge venue in Sheffield.

Tommy: It still sounds bad. It was at a theater. It still sounds bad. It was a local pole school that put on this big event, and we'd done a stunt with them on air. I knew the girl who owned it, Steph, and she invited us, and there was 300 people. I got pulled up on stage. It was like, you know, like family and shit were there. It was—

Ryan: because it's an exercise thing now, right?

Tommy: It is an exercise thing. Yeah, don't degrade the pole divas, you know. Anyway, I went to that. Where was I going with that?

Josh: Can't remember.

Tommy: Oh, and the host—

Ryan: you're explaining why it's important instead of broad.

Tommy: The emcee of it. Oh, she said performance 40 times. It was like she doubled down on it. It was like, I know I fucked it, I'm gonna make it known that I fucked it. Performance, performance.

Josh: So jeans-wise, clap it in for the performance.

Tommy: It was that.

Josh: So anyway, it's like the not acceptable from, uh, Super Nanny. It's not acceptable. Do you remember the Supernanny?

Ryan: You're doing accents now. The show's changed since I was on here.

Josh: There's been a lot of accents. I don't know if you heard, Ryan Seacrest joined us the other day. He did not.

Ryan: He did not.

Tommy: No, he did not, and you will never hear it again.

Josh: It's Ryan Seacrest here.

Tommy: Ryan Seacrest, can you bring his mic down?

Josh: I don't want him touching it.

Ryan: Can you actually do that?

Josh: He could if he wanted to, but yeah.

Tommy: Can you just shut him off for a minute? He's gone. This is brilliant. So Ryan, how are you, dude? Thanks for coming in, mate. Great to be here.

Ryan: Can I say, as someone who used to panel a radio show, being able to drop someone's mic is one of the great power moves you can ever do.

Josh: This is the last time.

Tommy: Yeah, this is brilliant.

Josh: I had my— this is why I need my iPad. My iPad, I can fucking— I can control the mixer.

Tommy: Yeah, mate.

Josh: Anyway, but the General Pants thing, um, General Pants is not a brand. As in it's not its own clothing brand, or it is?

Tommy: Yeah, I couldn't answer that question.

Josh: I don't think so. Were your jeans from General— were they General Pants jeans?

Tommy: No, no, no. Okay, Levi's. Like, no, that's a good question. Yeah, they, they— I think they just sell like all the stuff, Vans, Nudie, all that shit.

Josh: Yeah, I think it's hard being in a bit— don't you reckon it's hard being a business where you're selling someone else's shit?

Tommy: You're a middleman for brands.

Ryan: Isn't that what retail is?

Tommy: My—

Josh: yeah, unless you're like the Apple Store.

Ryan: Yeah, Apple.

Josh: What are some of the other, like Sketchers, they do their own shop.

Tommy: Do they? But they also probably stock in a bunch of other places.

Josh: Yeah, no, but that's fine. Like, it'd be hard being—

Tommy: yeah, the business, like I went to—

Josh: is just probably making money off the spray that like keeps your shoes dry.

Ryan: I buy them every time and never use the ones.

Tommy: What, Scotchgard? Is that it? Is that what you're talking about?

Ryan: Buying those shoes, need this $40 can of spray to save them. Cool, chuck it in the laundry, never saw it again.

Tommy: I mean, you go to somewhere like Meijer and you you see the struggle that they have. Half the fucking counters, it's like you're at the airport going through customs and there's 70 counters that aren't open.

Josh: And no one's paying full price. Like, you go to Myer because there's an OzBargain special at the moment.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And so you're there eventually.

E: Yeah.

Josh: Well, I don't— there's always specials, but the— or like price matching or whatever. But I feel like staff spending half their time looking at the back to see if they've got stock or I just, it just upset like whenever—

Ryan: Someone told me you can bargain at Myer.

Josh: Yeah, you can bargain anywhere.

Tommy: You always ask for a discount.

Ryan: Yeah.

Josh: Well, especially when I was a kid, I just remember saying to the JB Hi-Fi people just like, hey, I need, what's the best price you can do? I get a really good price on it. And then I'll say, now can you print out like, can you print that quote out? And like, no, you're just going to go to a competitor and go, no, no, no, I just need to like, I'm 14. I need to get my mum and dad, like I need to show my mum and dad so they'll believe me. And they're like, we never do this. But it's like, okay, we can see what you're doing. You know, you need to show your mum and dad. So they'd print it out and fucking go straight to Harvey Norman. Yeah, exactly. And you could work them off each other so many times, like back and forth, back and forth. I remember my first TV.

Ryan: Did you end up buying anything or was it just—

Josh: Yeah, but the thing is, I can't believe I spent $3,300 on my first TV.

Tommy: What? Tell me, please don't tell me it was a rear projection.

Josh: No, no, no.

Ryan: It was a plasma.

Josh: It was a Plasma. So I would have been, I would have been like 21, but it was sort of, and I think it was the whole debate at that time was like 720p versus full HD. And I spent like the money getting full HD, but then I was watching web videos on it that were like fucking look like it was shot on a potato.

Ryan: Thousands of dollars as a teenager with a TV and you bought a BMW with red leather seats.

Tommy: Yeah, but listen, and now you guys work with the Barefoot Investor.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, we've got our fucking smile and split. The thing is, I say that I'm, uh, I'm all into the barefoot stuff and I do the barefoot stuff. I've got the cards, but the actual, to be honest, I mainly use general expenses for like, I very, things, I don't know where they sort of sit.

Tommy: You're a bit loose. I think Josh and I counting on this working and being very lucrative because that's, I mean, that's, it's our minds. Like I think, You know, I look at how, you know, your partner, she works, your fiancée. Fucking clap that in.

Ryan: Yeah.

Tommy: He's engaged since last time. Geez. Fiancée.

Josh: So Tommy's saying a French word. Is fiancée French?

Tommy: She's got a job.

Josh: No, that was deserved.

Ryan: There's no—

Tommy: What my point is, she doesn't, she's not running her own business. And I think running your own business comes with different challenges and you get different luxuries. One of them being you can run your own show, but also the other thing is the finance stuff, right? Tipping every dollar into our business or paying off the plasma TV.

Josh: I'm nearly there.

Tommy: Banking on it doing really, really, really well.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Which is counter to Barefoot and what Barefoot's about for a lot of people that are working or on lowish incomes that can still optimise their money to make them successful and have enough like to have a good life. And so we're kind of playing against that at this moment.

Josh: I reckon you'd probably still argue though that like you can still save money and cheque on that.

E: Oh, we're not loose.

Tommy: We don't have one bank account if that's what you're saying.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: We've got two.

Ryan: I need to reread The Barefoot Investor now that I'm self-employed slash unemployed to probably cut back on a few subscriptions.

Tommy: We've got a copy over there that he left here if you want to take it. I'm sure Scott would be fine with it.

Josh: It's the exact— I'm glad you said that it was given to us because I think it has too big media company in it. So it would have been like a chase.

Tommy: I think he left another one.

Josh: Really? He fucking— he's like an egg.

Tommy: Yeah, there's two there.

Josh: He's like the Easter Bunny. He's just leaving his books everywhere.

Ryan: For someone who's all about about, you know, keeping the reins in. He seems to be just dishing out the things.

Tommy: Exactly. Um, so unemployed?

Ryan: Unemployed, yep. Thank you very much, it feels good. Um, you guys are actually the biggest supporters of my unemployment. Yeah, look, it's a fair to say you've been— it's probably more you because we've known each other a long bit— begging me to quit my job for a long time.

Tommy: Uh, I wouldn't say that.

Josh: Um, you've made a mistake, let's say that. I mean, it's like, you know, you're not fully unemployed until you buy the BMW with the red seats, and then you've really—

Ryan: midlife crisis.

Tommy: Yeah, I think like partying, you like to do it with friends. Yeah, you know, it's a bit negative.

Josh: Junkies hang out with other junkies. Yeah, you never see one on their own. When we had lunch just before the show, can I walk on Victoria Street without flinching? I look like such a fucking baby. And they literally just turned around, I just jumped.

Tommy: You should see the video of Josh flinching and jumping when we were putting, like, letting off fucking confetti cannons. It's like, you know what's gonna happen, dude, but you should see.

Josh: Did you see Carrie Bickmore get hit in the face with one? The little bit like, because that's a big thing in radio. I feel like they've got budget for nothing except for the fucking, the paper shop where they get all the confetti cannons from. But there's actually a piece that I guess like it was like all paper or some shit that was like a metal bit in it and actually hit her in the eye. And so it was like they were celebrating, oh, we're going to London. And she's like, oh, like trying to celebrate. She had her hand on. It was a bit of a nightmare.

Ryan: Scary.

Tommy: Yeah, look, I wouldn't say I bullied you into it, but I would say that you're a great supporter of me backing myself. Yeah, I think, I think you're someone with a lot of talent, and, uh, tides are changing.

Ryan: Tides are changing. Well, this is, uh, to explain, when I spoke to some people on the phone after I decided to leave, I spoke to my mum and she's like, oh, you're gonna be okay with this? And you sure? And yep. Spoke to Dad and he's like, yeah, good on you. I called Tommy and I just went, Tommy, It's done. And I just hear a roar of applause and screaming.

Josh: You're on speaker. That's a notorious thing I also want to bring up with Tommy at some point, which is he just fucking— he's always on speaker. Like, this— it was on a shoot the other day, and then I'm like halfway talking, and I'm like, you know what, I'm on fucking speaker. And then you seem like a dodgy cunt when you say, am I on speaker? Am I on speaker? So you don't want to bring it up.

Ryan: Well, lucky I wasn't calling to go Tommy, I've quit my job.

Josh: It's time to get rid of Josh. I'm moving in. Let's take this thing. So always know that if, especially if Tommy's in the car, there's probably someone trying not to break. Because I get nervous. I'm like, I can't fucking move anything. Yeah, I can. Tommy's bro aunt called up about some, like, he was some computer issues, and I'm thinking, I know the answer to this.

Tommy: Oh, we were in the car though.

Ryan: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Josh: In the car, it's a big one.

Ryan: Well, every time I call you from now on, I'm just going to assume it's on loudspeaker with lots of other people around. Just be like, oh Tommy, just calling to say that everyone else in your life are just great and I like them all.

Tommy: To be honest, I won't do the handover. Like, I'd rather— there's some people that I literally— like, do you know who called me? Fucking BMAC, our hype man. Yeah, for the show. Pick your game up, please, we need more hype. Um, he called me, he's in the car with Warwick Capper.

Josh: That's a good one.

Ryan: And why?

Josh: I mean, he's a hype man.

Ryan: He's a hype man.

Josh: Hype men hang out with other hype men.

Ryan: Junkies hang out with other junkies.

Tommy: In true hype form, he was driving driving Warwick Capper up to Shepparton to do an appearance at the nightclub where we did our live show.

Josh: How big do you have to be before you're doing it? Are there anyone— is there anyone that is— there's something about an appearance, it's almost the end of a career, maybe.

Tommy: Comical, like the Geordie Shore, the Jersey Shore people do it and have done it for ages. They make so much money out of it.

Ryan: When you said he was driving Capper, I went straight away, he was driving to some place for a cashie to turn up at a place.

Tommy: Exactly. Next minute, I'm— Warwick Capper's like, g'day, g'day, come out with him, mate. And I'm having a conversation with Warwick Capper. I didn't fucking see it coming. I answered my phone thinking it's our hype man.

Josh: Mate, 3D Deal has no idea who Warwick Capper is. How would you, Ryan, how would you explain?

Ryan: He was one of the most flamboyant AFL footballers going around. He was known for his very short shorts. He was a ladies' man. He had long blonde locks with a mullet.

Tommy: He made a porno.

Josh: He was on Celebrity Big Brother.

Ryan: Yeah, and he's been on that real low-level circuit of cashies and appearances for a long time.

Tommy: Dude, I bumped into him at Tochura Pub outside of Shepparton. This was when I was on air there. Do you know I was on air in Shepparton?

Ryan: You have mentioned it quite a fair bit.

Josh: Now you've fucking become insecure. I'm sorry.

Tommy: No, no, I actually think—

Ryan: why did you bring it up?

Tommy: Um, I was trying to work out something that Jay said yesterday. And I think it was something about the Shepparton thing.

Josh: Yeah, because we had, we had Kroger, Kroger, C-R-O-G-G-A. How would you say that?

Tommy: Kroger.

Josh: Kroger listens to our show and he said, you know, it's like listening to mates except one mate did radio in Shepparton and talks about it a lot.

Ryan: Although to be fair, you often drop, I did digital with Thiefy and Jules and stuff.

Tommy: Oh, and also SRC, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

D: Potentially.

Josh: There's a little bit of the SRC thing, but the radio thing, like I do it right. There's something, there is something when I was working. The other thing is when you work in tech, it feels like wherever you've worked, like there's certain industries that for whatever reason it just ends up coming out more. And I think that I used to work at a tech company, I used to work in radio.

Tommy: I mean, these are stories, these are things that we've identified as part of our identity. And the radio stuff is it's you, it's you've put yourself forward, you are talking about your life. You can see how it could eat some people up. Like, I remember feeling a bit more fucking, um, thinking that I'm holding myself up with a bit more, not self-worth, but like thinking, not that I was great.

Josh: You think a bit of a top dog when you were doing radio?

Tommy: I think part of it is I was so nervous. Part of it is probably insecure. Part of it is doing this thing I've never done before, and it can— and you start to think, ah, I mean, what I have to say is important, which is bad, right? Because I think there's— I've done a shift where it's— I mean, we do this show, you could think that we think what we have to say is important. We just have fun doing this. But I remember feeling like a bit of, yeah, look, yeah, people want to listen. Maybe it's a survival mechanism, to be honest. What do you think, Ryan? You've spent most of your adult life in radio.

Ryan: And accountancy, as we discussed earlier.

Tommy: Yeah, but you threw that out.

Ryan: Yeah, um, how long we radio out as well.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, how long, how long accountancy and then how long radio?

Ryan: Or, well, including uni, like 5 or 6 years, but then working maybe 2 or 3.

Josh: Have you thought about doing media radio? Just very quick, the media accountancy, would you ever do accountancy stuff for media companies, like big media companies?

Ryan: The other way around, and that I could host like on the Business Channel.

Josh: Yeah. Oh yeah.

Tommy: Tom Petrovsky?

Josh: No, no, he's fucking the new Koshi.

Tommy: Oh, new Koshi, that's it.

Ryan: He's a finance guy, wasn't he?

Josh: Yeah, he still is.

Tommy: So radio.

Josh: Koshi's still alive.

Tommy: You've done how many years radio?

Ryan: Uh, 6.

Tommy: And what do you think it's—

Ryan: 6 and out.

Tommy: What's it done to your—

Josh: 6 and out. I feel like you've really thought about it.

Ryan: I had it and I just said that and I thought, why haven't I used this until now?

Josh: That should have been a headline.

Ryan: That's my new Instagram bio.

Josh: We're just getting started.

Tommy: What do you, um, what's, what have you done? What's the the self-discovery? Because I think it does raise people's self-importance, their, their view on their own self-importance, um, in some respects.

Ryan: Well, I always had this fear, uh, that I've like run out of storeys and run out of content. So I'd often just go out and go for a walk to like try and find something.

Tommy: He quit his job because he finally ran out and he needed a new one.

Josh: So he's almost a story. That's literally like Seth Godin's April Fool's joke.

Tommy: Oh yeah.

Josh: Yeah, just right, you ran out of— did a blog post, ran out of ideas, guys.

Ryan: Yeah, that was one of the great— I've still got plenty of ideas left, don't worry about that. But, um, yeah, that was my thing. So then when I'd go out, if something small happened, I'd always be like, oh, how can I like embellish that, or, or, you know, turn that into that 20-second funny thing into a 3-minute. So I was just constantly— and I wasn't about what I had to say because only in the last few years I've actually been like opinion. Usually it's just like said telling storeys or thinking of angles, but you do kind of get this sense of— because you're always sort of working, even when you're walking down the street, you're kind of like, I'm on the radio and I'm sort of working right now.

Josh: Did you ever think you could do comedy?

Ryan: I did stand-up a few times.

Josh: Really?

Ryan: Yeah.

Josh: How did it go?

Ryan: Yeah, great. I loved it.

Josh: Like, was it open mic or what was that? And was it part of a bit of shtick? Was it like Leon Shergren's becoming— you just fucking did it?

Ryan: Just did it. Um, someone said I should try. I always wanted to try it, like a bucket list thing. And then I loved it. Like, the rush is like when you come off stage and you've done a good job, it feels really good.

Tommy: What gives you more of a rush, quitting your job or doing stand-up? Because it's a big rush.

Josh: I remember my— which one has more tears?

Ryan: Um, no, stand-up was great, but why I stopped is because if I— I was in Toowoomba when I started, and then I did it in Bunbury. But Toowoomba, I'd spend a few weeks writing a bit. I'd sort practise to myself, try and remember it. Then I'd drive 2 hours to Brisbane, do my 5 minutes, and drive 2 hours back. And then I'm like, oh, I did all this work for 60 people in the audience, whereas if I did the same amount of work for a video, 100,000 people could see it. So it was a bit like— and stand-up's a thing where you got to do it 4 times a week for a year to get good. And I'm like, am I going to drive to Brisbane 4 times a week? Yeah, to try a 3-minute bit.

Josh: Did you ever get into the scene? Were you like mates with the comedians or anything?

Ryan: Yeah, I did a show at SYNN about comedy, the comedy scene. So we'd have comedians in and interview them and stuff. And, um, I'd interviewed Luke McGregor when he was working in superannuation and I was an accountant, and we were both doing our side thing. And, um, so I interviewed him on Sin.

Josh: What was he like then?

Ryan: He's the same as he is now. Really? Legend. And then we used to, um, we'd interview these comedians, me and my mate Dave, and then we'd all go out and have dinner and beers afterwards and stuff. And it's crazy to see where some of them are now.

Tommy: This is Dave that I know?

E: Dave Warnocky.

Tommy: Not Dave, not Dave, not Hughesy.

Josh: Just Hughesy. Bury the lead.

Ryan: Going back to doing cash appearances and stuff, how's revenue going for the Daily Talk Show? Because I've got something for you.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: All right.

Josh: I mean, the Daily— specifically the line items of the Daily Talk Show. It's interesting at the moment.

Ryan: I was going to look into the camera to say this because I'm going to rip this video later.

Tommy: Yeah.

Ryan: That I've done the most embarrassing and shameful thing I've ever done in the last—

Josh: Do you want to do 3 more different takes?

Ryan: I think I'm good now.

Josh: Wait, just quiet so we can get in there.

Ryan: No, I'm good now. I'm feeling fresh.

Tommy: Okay, we're gonna pick it up.

Josh: So that's good. It's really good. No laughing because it's fucking hard to cut around laughs.

Ryan: Have you guys heard of Cameo?

Josh: Cameo? Yeah. Yeah, so Cameo is Uh, I've seen Christian Hull do it a bit, dressing up as Trish.

Tommy: I think he said that he's made about, at the time when we had him on, $2 grand or $2-3 grand on it.

Josh: Oh, that's— I didn't remember that.

Ryan: So yeah, it's basically—

Tommy: that was all—

Josh: but you need to be fat, like, it's, uh, you need to have a level of fame.

Ryan: Yeah, um, so basically for people who don't know, it's an app where celebrities do cameos. It's often like birthday shoutouts or a message to my mum or something. There's celebrities on there who name their own price.

Josh: Um, what's the prices normally? What are we talking?

Ryan: Oh, some people were like season 3 of The Real Housewives of Atlanta, and they might be like $20. But then Snoop Dogg's on there and he's like $1,500, and Charlie Sheen's on there for $500.

Tommy: I know Chris D'Elia was on there for $50 grand because he was like just taking the piss. He was doing it for $1,000 and then he's like, uh, fuck this, I'm gonna see if I can get $50 grand for one.

Josh: And did he?

Tommy: Then I'll donate some of the money. Oh, he said, look, I don't want to do that any, but I'll do something.

Ryan: So I've used it a few times. In my engagement video, I had Ice-T.

Tommy: Yeah, I saw that. I was so confused. I was like, what the fuck?

Ryan: So I got that through Cameo.

Tommy: Yeah.

Ryan: And I also have used it on my old radio show. Xavier's a big fan of this podcast in the US, so I got the podcast to like leave a Cameo.

Josh: This is great. Well, I remember back in it, like when I was a kid— she wasn't even a kid, 21— but I, um, Uh, I had a plasma post-squeegee. Yeah, post-squeegee.

Tommy: Uh, that's a good way to identify your times.

Josh: It's pre-squeegee, post-squeegee. Now it's definitely post-squeegee.

Tommy: A-A-S-B-S. Before squeegee, after squeegee.

Josh: That's got that real biblical— I do like that, actually. Um, I can't remember what the fuck I was saying because it got me in the squeegee mode. Cameos are Fiverr. So, I did a— I had this girl from California. I paid her $5.

Tommy: Can you look it up, Mason?

Josh: And she won't find it. Oh, you took it down. Which I can actually make it. I could make it public and we could. Yeah. But it's a video of this girl saying, I just found this new website. It's called joshjansen.com.

Tommy: Can we put it in right now? And if we just click our fingers.

D: Hey guys, Mia here. So I was surfing the web the other day at work like always because I was bored as always at my job, and I was trying to find things to make me laugh because I was stressed about schoolwork, and I came across this guy named Josh Jansen. Um, I started reading his blog and I was dying laughing. I was literally like in tears in my chair at work. Um, and we all know that it takes a lot to make me laugh because I grew up in a really funny household. My brother's really funny, my mom's really funny, my dad's really funny, and frankly I'm pretty funny, so it takes a lot to make me laugh, and I couldn't believe the stuff he had on there. I was dying, like, laughing, tearing up. And the best part was I was at work, and everyone sitting in the chairs waiting to go tanning was looking at me being like, what is this girl laughing at? So I had to pull them behind the counter, show them how funny it was, and they were like, oh my gosh, this is so funny. And I just kept visiting his blog even when I got home. It kept me from doing my homework. I was up until like 3 in the morning doing homework because his blog kept me from doing my own homework. So if you are looking for a really good laugh or just a means for procrastination, you should cheque out his blog at Josh jansen.com. And for all of you who don't know how to spell that, it's J-O-S-H-J-A-N-S-S-E-N.com. And yeah, I just think he's really awesome, so you should definitely just cheque him out.

Tommy: Done. What did you think?

Ryan: That was unbelievable.

Josh: Ryan has seen it. Guess the radio guy is— if I can put it in—

E: React.

Ryan: What'd you think of last night's Married at First Sight? Oh, can't believe it.

Josh: Can't believe that person went home. And so, you know, so I did that and it was $5. It was great fun. So Cameo is like that, but with actual celebrities.

Ryan: Actual celebrities. So I get this message from the head of Cameo Australia. They're just opening up an Australian office because it's a startup in Chicago. It's going great.

Josh: And I think she started following us on Instagram. I saw someone from Cameo.

Ryan: Yeah. So Marina, she's the head of Cameo Australia. She messages me and she goes, Ryan, have you heard of Cameo?

Josh: Last name is Cameo. Marina Cameo on Instagram.

Ryan: It's probably just her thing.

Tommy: It's probably, uh, it's a requirement.

Josh: It's just her professional Instagram account.

Ryan: Yeah. So Marina, she's lovely, uh, but she's a bit delusional because she messages me and says, Ryan, I think you'd be a great talent to be on Cameo. And I was like, oh, it just, it sends chills to think that I would be in a celebrity category. And I think she's crazy because who's gonna pay that? And I thought, oh, the shame and embarrassment of my site being there, but no one's clicked.

Josh: Like, so you thought of your biggest celebrity mates and you, you're here now? Is that what's—

Ryan: Well, I, well, then, but then she said, I heard you've just left your radio job.

Tommy: Mm, sicks it out.

Ryan: And I was like, well, uh, it sounds a bit creepy and a bit desperate, but $20 is $20, right?

Tommy: Absolutely.

Ryan: Yeah. So I signed up and, uh, so I'm on Cameo now. So come and join me. But I said I'm bringing some people on board.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Is this like a Ponzi scheme? You're not getting some sort of—

Ryan: It is absolutely.

Josh: Yeah. So a bit of Tupperware and stuff.

Ryan: Do you want to look up— just Google Cameo The Daily Talk Show.

Tommy: Oh no, here we go. What's he got there, Dale? Found anything?

Josh: I'm sure the website will rank. Yeah, the website does. Thank you. Um, Wi-Fi is loading here.

E: Cameo.com/thedailytalkshow.

Josh: Yep, it exists.

Tommy: What, so there's— can you turn around and show us?

Josh: There you go.

Ryan: There you go.

Josh: Beautiful artwork. The Daily Talk Show for free. Does it happen for free?

Tommy: No, actually, that's all I've got to talk about.

Ryan: I'm gonna talk to Mr. 97 about this. We're gonna move that up a little bit because how many—

Josh: How far can you go up from free?

Ryan: What do we— We've been working on this for a bit. What, how many messages we got so far?

E: I thought it'd be a good idea to do some like market research, so I put it out for free and we got 12 requests.

Tommy: 12? Hang on, you were in on this too, Mr. 97?

E: Yeah, yeah, Ryan gave me a call and he told me about the other 6.

Josh: How the fuck do you have Mr. 97's number? No one should be calling Mr. 97.

Ryan: I listened to the Shameless podcast and I pretended I was a girl. Got his number.

Josh: Was he yelling? He said, sorry, man, I'm fucking— I'm in industry right now. He's trying on some jeans. His mom— he passed over to his mom.

Ryan: Who's that? A Ponzi scheme. I sent my referral link and I will be getting 5% of your 5% free.

Tommy: I can do the math on that.

Ryan: No, but that's why I didn't know you're going to set it up as free because 5% of nothing, guess what, that's fucking still nothing.

Tommy: How am I—

Josh: um, what—

Tommy: who are these people? People, can you see?

E: Yeah, so I've just sort of filtered through some of the spammy ones, but we've got one here from Bryce who wants some encouragement because he's going to marine boot camp in 2 weeks.

Tommy: Marine?

Ryan: Yeah. Should we do that right now?

Josh: Can we just do it?

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: What does he want specifically? Any sort of—

E: Nah, just encouragement.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: All right, all right, here we go. Count us in, right?

Ryan: 3, 2, 1.

Tommy: Bryce. It's your boys, DJ and JJ.

Josh: You're, um, I know you didn't ask for me, but I'm all right.

Ryan: Sorry, you didn't ask for it. You're not paying for it either.

Josh: Yeah, exactly, this is a freebie.

Tommy: Thanks, um, for reaching out to us. Uh, you know, you're either a cheapskate because you won't pay us— I mean, we set it to free, but let's keep it also— sorry, that was the other one, I reckon. Um, Mate, you're off to the Marines.

Josh: Uh, why do you get all the best bits?

Tommy: Well, because you fucking aren't talking.

Josh: Because I was fucking leading. I was waiting for you to stop your trash so I could say—

Ryan: okay, the Marines is a very important part of Australian society, and we thank you for protecting us. Yes, and as 3 Marines ourselves, uh, yeah, we just want to say I don't want a sailor suit since I've got the peel.

Tommy: Best of luck. I don't think Marines are sailors, to be honest.

Josh: I don't think they are. Marines?

E: No, they're on like Navy ships and stuff.

Ryan: Yeah, but sailors—

Tommy: no, no, no, you can't. I mean, you've just said to me, stop using trash. Now you're trash talking him saying he's a sailor.

Josh: There's nothing— sailing is an amazing sport. What are you talking about?

Ryan: So most cameos go for about 30 seconds.

Josh: Okay, okay.

Ryan: And most of them are paid, so it's very, very nice. Some money.

Tommy: You get what you pay for, brother.

Ryan: Good luck. I was gonna say, my 5 5% doesn't come out of your income. It comes out of theirs. So you get 80%, I believe, or Cameo gets 20%.

Tommy: Okay.

Josh: And then Cameo. So you have 5% on 20%.

Tommy: No, I get 5%.

Josh: Yeah.

Ryan: Something like that. But it doesn't come out of your pocket.

Josh: It sounds like you haven't thought about it.

Ryan: I mean, I haven't. I just quickly hit the link. I'll get a referral, but I didn't know it was going to be free. I thought, here we go. I'm unemployed and I'm just going to milk this gravy train.

Josh: Let's just do a 5-second, 10-second version that's actually good for brands.

Tommy: You start then.

Josh: Bryce, you're going to the Marines, mate.

Tommy: Well done. It's going to be an absolute slog, but as they say in school, um, we're proud of you.

Josh: Well, you just, you threw me because you sort of implied, you sort of implied that you were in the Marines again.

Ryan: I thought we weren't doing that.

Tommy: I gave you an alley-oop, dude.

Josh: We're proud of you. And as they, we don't know what they say because we've never been in it, but Um, all aboard, good luck. I think that's good.

Ryan: All aboard, good luck.

Tommy: All aboard.

E: All aboard.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, that's pretty great.

Tommy: I don't—

E: oh, we won't do the others, but no, I got another good one because you guys cooked that.

Ryan: But this is, this is pretty easy.

E: Hello, this is from Tak. T-A-K.

Josh: Okay.

E: Hello, I'm not familiar with your show. Can you tell me a bit about it briefly and how to access it?

Ryan: See, this is what happens when you put it for free.

Josh: They just use it as a service.

Tommy: I mean, if we can get—

Josh: Tac's just using Lister. I know, just go hide at thedailytalkshow.com. Or maybe Tac tried that and it didn't work.

Ryan: Yeah, I've heard your email's down.

Josh: Yeah, it wasn't—

Ryan: everyone's talking about it.

Josh: Yeah, it's back.

Tommy: Should we just read him our, um, Insta bio? I can just read him out.

Ryan: I'm so annoyed that you guys have got more than me.

Josh: Well, we're for fucking free.

Tommy: So g'day Tac, uh, it's Josh and Tommy from The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: With our good mate Ryan John.

Tommy: Yeah, so we're actually doing the show right now. You can find us on YouTube, um, our Insta bio. This is the description of our show: the only talk show for gronks by gronks, great guests and banter 7 days a week, and relaxed combos as well. Yeah, we've taken that out, mate. Um, all aboard the Daily Talk Show.

Josh: Yeah, that could actually be good. Like, um, are there any radio stations doing shows from international waters?

Tommy: Uh, who did one recently? I know that was, um, Dan Mace did a video about it.

Josh: I wonder if it's actually—

Tommy: Hamish and Andy has to have.

Josh: No, but like, not a shtick, but actually like it's a thing.

Ryan: Fred Bottica, who's now in— who's been in Perth for a very long time, he started out on pirate radio in New Zealand.

Josh: So pirate radio— pirate radio is just like you are stealing airwaves or whatever to like push your show.

Ryan: Well, I think you can't have your station set up within the broadcast perimeter, so you just go out to sea just past it and beam it back in.

Tommy: I'm just going to do something that's never been done on this show. I'm going to the toilet.

Josh: Really? This is very— and we're the ones that had a big lunch, but that's okay. I mean, it's convenient that we've got the toilet so close by.

Ryan: So close by.

Josh: So the accounting then? Yeah, I've been good. The accounting thing, um, he's saying this too.

Ryan: He's feeling rattled.

Josh: I'm not right now.

Ryan: You are. He's so rattled. He's so rattled. Broadcast, you got to be ready for everything.

Josh: I'm absolutely ready. I can hear his stream though.

Ryan: But, um, can you hear that in the can? Because you can hear it in—

Josh: that's right. No, I want to ask about the accounting thing. So the stuff that you learned back then, is it all still relevant now?

Ryan: If I went back, I'd have to like brush up on a few laws and stuff.

Josh: So you don't have your CPA? Have you got—

Ryan: no, no, no.

Josh: Did you?

Ryan: Yes, I've done the subjects and stuff, but I'm not a a CA. Okay, at the moment, but I could— I'm not going to, but I could get back into it. But I think it's good life skills, finance and accounting and, and stuff, because—

Josh: So do you do your own, um, accounting or no?

Ryan: No, but more investments and then trying to work out, because I used to give advice to rich people on what to do with their money.

Josh: Yeah. Um, when should— I was wondering when we should buy a house versus invest in like an index fund or something.

Ryan: Is that what you and your partner are going to do?

D: Yeah.

Josh: So Bri and I were talking about like, okay, we could either like buy somewhere. And so I spoke on the show yesterday to Jase about this dream of living somewhere in Tasmania and being in the show. Yes.

Ryan: But you love this place.

Josh: I love it. And also Bri was like, I got home at like 11:30 on Friday night and she's got the show on, which is never good. She had it on Sonos and she's like, oh, this, all this talk about moving to Stanley. I'm gonna have a studio, I'm gonna be able to go for a walk. I'm—

Ryan: yeah, which I was just like, I've just left my job for my partner and I'm sitting here next to this misogynist piece of shit.

Josh: And me.

Tommy: Why can't you say something funny when I gave you an opportunity? You just have to do it at my expense. Um, what are you doing? You've got about 70 properties and no job right now. What's happening?

Josh: Just move into one of them.

Ryan: I could, but then I'd have to kick the renters out, and the renters is is paying the bills and stuff. It sounds really glamorous to have investment properties, but it's actually like having more— when you think of it as having multiple mortgages, it's a bit like, oh, you kind of— because sometimes you've got to top them up. Or I just got a message before that the bathroom in Bunbury's— something's happened to the—

Tommy: clogged it.

Josh: What happened?

Tommy: Bruce clogged it.

Josh: A big bog in Bunbury.

Ryan: The girl who stays in my house in Bunbury, she—

Josh: she a renter or just a friend?

Ryan: No, she actually rents.

Josh: Okay.

Ryan: And so So, she messages the real estate agent and says, there's something wrong with the hot water, you got to fix it. And I was like, there's nothing wrong with the hot water, it's fine. Really? Yeah. And then she's like, no. So, what happens is after I've been in the shower for like 20 or 25 minutes, it's not that hot anymore. And you know, I've got the big tank and she's obviously grown up with the, you know, fancy house with the Everstream, whatever they call it.

Josh: So, you're the landlord that says, mate, shorter showers.

Ryan: Well, here's what I said. I was like, no. It's— I've got a tank, so you've just used all the hot water. That's how it happens in like 90% of houses. And she's like, no, trust me, blah, blah. And I was like, all right, here's the deal. We'll get the plumber out, and if there's something wrong with it, I'll pay for the plumber and I'll pay to get it fixed.

Tommy: Great.

Ryan: But if he comes out and he just goes, oh, you've just used all the hot water, just wait for it to refill, then you have to pay for him to come out.

Josh: You've turned this into some form of radio. You see, now that you've left, you're like, how many radios?

Ryan: This was a while ago.

Josh: Okay.

E: Yeah.

Ryan: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, and she's like, okay, cool. And then I just get this text message. It's not like a dear Ryan, well, it's just a text message just saying, I've paid the plumber.

Josh: That's so good. I wonder how much it cost her.

Ryan: Well, with tradies, it's usually just $100 to rock up, right?

Josh: Yeah.

Ryan: Which means it would have been $100 because he would have rocked up and gone, yeah, you're a friend. I mean, thank you for staying in my house and paying my bills.

Tommy: Right, Joe.

Josh: I mean, so what's the— so what the difference between buying a place and doing like an index fund or something like that? What are some of the considerations?

Ryan: Uh, well, I'm not a qualified financial advisor anymore, and I would like to point out I didn't buy these places planning to be like a property investor at the, like, at the time.

Josh: You're gonna live in all of them? Oh, fuck, you did.

Ryan: Well, I lived there and I thought I was gonna live there forever in Bunbury because I love that house. Really?

Josh: Where's Bunbury?

Ryan: WA, south of Perth.

Josh: Yeah, I've been there. It's beautiful. Yeah, it's nice. Um, so you were almost trying to do what? Did you— were you radio in Bunbury?

Ryan: Yep, Hot FM.

Josh: And then so you thought you were going to be Bunbury FM for fucking— that was going to be your life? There's nothing wrong, that's not me being judgmental, I'm just curious.

Ryan: Well, I think as Tommy would know from his time—

Josh: would you just shepherd in?

Ryan: Yeah, yeah, obviously you have hopes and dreams, but the best thing to do for your current show is to just all you like, you just have to live like that's where you live. Because if you always sort of got one foot out the door or looking for the next opportunity, you're not making the most.

Josh: You really committed.

Ryan: I bought a house. Well, it was probably worked out cheaper than rent.

Josh: How many, how long were you there? How many years?

Ryan: Oh, 16 months, 18 months or something.

Josh: 18 months. So how far in were you when you bought the house?

Ryan: Um, one year. I renovated the house and the day that it finished renovating was the day I moved to Canberra, so I never spent a night in it finished.

Josh: Did you renovate it?

Ryan: Yeah, beautiful floors. Like, personally, like with Oh, like I hired the tradesman.

Josh: Well, that's what I was wondering, because you hear people, it's like you should buy a place if you've got the skills to be able to do something.

Ryan: Well, I didn't have the skills, but I had the time because I was doing breakfast, and then in the afternoon I had time to project manage, go to micromanage, micromanage.

Tommy: Yeah, but then he went to Canberra and then did the fucking same thing.

Ryan: Same thing. I was like, we're gonna live here forever, this is great, buy a house. And then I got the job in Perth, I'm like, oh shit. And then yes, now we've got 3.

Tommy: You bought one in Perth?

Ryan: No, 2. We've got 2 in WA, 1 in Canberra. Do you think I love the Canberra house. I wish the kitchen was—

Tommy: Yeah, that was great. I've seen the videos, the old, like, old-looking stove, but that sort of new—

Ryan: the New York subway tile sort of stuff.

Tommy: Do you think it's a good investment? Apartments? Sorry, an investment property, do you think?

Josh: Because I think there are two questions, aren't they? Because I always think about apartments. So that's one. So the apartments— If you're going to live in it, it's a good investment.

Ryan: I don't know, it's just like this Australian thing. It's like, at the end of the day, you've always got a place to go home.

Tommy: Barefoot's advice is that they're not. I'm pretty sure.

Ryan: Well, it depends if you've got a big deposit and you can pay it off well, yes. But if you're only just limping in with a small deposit, then the interest you pay is crazy.

Josh: Well, because it's crazy at the moment. Like you hear on the radio, it's like spend $2,000 deposit and get a 5-bedroom house. Yeah, it's like $350 a week.

D: Yeah.

Josh: And Bree's hearing this, she's like, what the fuck?

Tommy: You've got to live in, you know, Craigieburn West.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Like you're going to live far away.

Josh: But I mean, I guess that those, if it's a supply and demand thing, they're not going to be great investments.

Tommy: But that's why he's saying that Barefoot's like, buy your house, buy the place you live in.

Ryan: Yeah.

Tommy: Because you have to live somewhere.

Josh: And so then, so what's the equation then? So if I was like—

Ryan: Buy a place you actually want to live in and get as big a deposit as you can.

Tommy: So save up as much money.

Josh: And so what about if you have expense? Because the thing is that places that we rent, like Bri and I, like places we'll rent, they might cost more than what we'd want to fucking pay on a house. So I guess we just need to get cheaper taste.

Ryan: Well, or the bigger deposit you pay, the less you have to pay back each week and stuff.

Tommy: Yeah, or make some money.

Josh: Yeah, we could fucking do that.

Ryan: Cameo and just line it up.

Tommy: Nah, Mason fucked it from the get-go.

Josh: I want some of that marine money.

Ryan: I'll see you later then, sailor. All aboard.

Josh: Is that what I said? You said all aboard.

Ryan: Speaking of saving money, I'm about to embark on a bit of a money journey, a money saving journey. Yeah, and that I think you guys might be proud of. It's cool. I've sort of mentioned it to you at lunch when we were stuffing our faces. Not— I was only—

Josh: mate, Josh said he was healthy and said to me, yeah, this is the annoying thing. You go out for a nice lunch and Ryan's like, oh, we ate so much. Oh, aren't you so full, Josh? Shut the fuck up. Can't I just enjoy my food? Without coming back and having fucking 97 and 3D Dill and TJ all projecting that they didn't have a nice big lunch.

Tommy: No, I had a nice—

E: I had a great lunch.

Ryan: Yeah, yeah, you smelled great. Yeah.

Josh: What did you, what did you have?

E: Uh, it was like chicken with like mashed black beans and veggies.

Josh: I do like black beans.

Tommy: Yeah, it was ours. Anyway, um, so your money journey.

Ryan: So I'm gonna— well, it's a saving journey because have you heard a lot of people say it's expensive now? Like F45 is $60 a week. And there's all these personal training and it can be very expensive.

Josh: It's ridiculous.

Ryan: Yeah, yeah. Um, so I'm going to get fit for free starting as right now. I'm going to lose a whole bunch of weight and get really fit using only introductory free trials at different gyms.

Josh: Yeah, I thought you're going to say you're going to start walking or something, but this is going to lose us.

Tommy: I think our gym Fitness First has a 3-day pass or a week.

Josh: I would love to have someone to go with.

Ryan: I'll come with you for 3 days.

Josh: Okay, perfect.

Ryan: Um, if you want to get 50, that's actually about all Josh can last.

Josh: So yeah, 3 days. When do you want to start? When are we doing it?

Ryan: Well, I'm starting now. Hence, for that, that not that big a lunch we had was my, like, one of my final ones. And I'll get you back.

Josh: One of my final ones. I've said that a few times. One of my final meals.

Tommy: And then what happens?

Ryan: Create some, like, accountability.

Josh: Yeah, I've said many things on the podcast, there's no accountability. Trust me.

Ryan: Yeah, how's the 2019 goals going?

Tommy: I don't know.

Josh: And fucking— he lost it going, oh, I'm not going to say anything about it. But things are happening, but I'm just not talking about it.

Tommy: I appreciate that. It's nice to not hear the talk.

E: Yeah.

Ryan: But most gyms, some have 3 days, some have a week. A lot of F45s have 2 weeks free trials.

Tommy: Are they on to you though?

Ryan: I've done a little bit in Perth.

Tommy: So they're on to— like, so they're not— it's not in one big system just because they're—

Ryan: well, F45 are franchised.

Tommy: Yeah. Okay. So, they—

Ryan: And then most of them use the same app. So, like, I might come into these problems, but there's so many gyms and options and places that I could probably start a new Hotmail address if I had to.

Josh: So, you're going to have to meet a lot of people.

Ryan: Not really, because a lot of them you just sign up, then you rock up to the counter and go, hi, I sign up for the free thing. And they go, cool, in you go.

Tommy: They're pretty good. Like, the— I mean, exercise classes, Josh, I'll describe what happens in them. You rock up and there's lots of people there and they're all doing their thing. They're like, nah, a lot of them are just going hard.

Ryan: I've done lots of effort.

Josh: Isn't it weird though to think that, like, especially like, I think I'm more comfortable exercising abroad than near in my hometown.

Tommy: What a storey to tell yourself. Well, the problem with hometown is because I can travel.

Josh: Well, like, literally you've got your fucking—

Tommy: How much exercise did you do when you're 3 and a half months away outside of walking? No, no, walking doesn't count.

Josh: I've walked a lot. I walk so much you couldn't even keep up with me in New York.

Tommy: That's how much I walk. Dedicated exercise, I'm saying.

Josh: You literally were like, look, can we get an Uber? You had to get Ubers because you couldn't walk.

Tommy: Dedicated exercising.

Josh: How much have I done? I don't know. I did— when Bree and I went to Cape Shank at the RACV club.

Tommy: You went to the gym?

Ryan: I went to the gym.

Tommy: Oh, that's right. Yeah, 4 months ago.

Josh: Remember I did the photo? I sent you a photo.

Ryan: So why aren't you exercising in your hometown?

Josh: Well, no, so the hometown thing, it's like you've got all your— like, imagine every town has essential services, like your policemen, you've got like police people, you know, fucking everyone, and they've all got to go to a fucking gym. So you end up being around all the people that you fucking like.

Tommy: I went to the gym last night and I didn't talk to one person.

Josh: I think you've got—

Tommy: I didn't need to.

E: Why?

Ryan: Swingers night.

Josh: No, but it's not even that. It's just like, it's just, no, it's just like being with Brian, Cindy's husband. Who's Brian?

Tommy: Cindy's husband at the swingers' night.

Josh: She told a story. I was like, who's Brian? Um, no, but no, I just feel like there's too many layers. There's too many potential people. Like, there's too many.

Tommy: Like, you can see how he thinks your idea is a nightmare because you have to do the sign-up process. I get it though.

Ryan: Like, admin's annoying, but the annoying people, you know what people go to gyms for? To work out, not to judge you. They don't care about anyone else. You don't think about this. Do you care about anyone else in the gym?

D: Absolutely.

Tommy: That's why he has a problem with it.

Josh: I mean, you just have to go on people's Insta stories. Yeah, it's like, I know that if I go to the gym, I'll be like, Tommy will film me doing an exercise like, oh my God, I can't— you do the lat pulldowns.

Tommy: Like, did that once.

Josh: I know, but people do.

Tommy: We went— we actually— you, you clocked up about 15 to 20 sessions.

Josh: Was that— wasn't that many.

Tommy: I don't know, 15, 20. 15.

Josh: He's 10 to 15.

Ryan: He's being very generous.

Tommy: We can actually tell. We could actually tell if we go and you can ask how many times have I come.

E: Swiped.

Josh: Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: So, uh, but anyway, fitness.

Josh: I actually know, but I'm actually thinking in regards to gym, because I was looking up online those, um, by like, you know, I've got my bike, I've got a bike, and I'm thinking about getting one of the things that will then turn my bike into one of those Zwift thing so I can ride the bike indoors.

Tommy: You've been watching Maven's lives.

Josh: Yeah, Cycling Maven, or Maven, yeah, as he's known now.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, anything works if you just fucking do it. And so then I was like, running on the spot could work for you, dude. Like, actually just working.

Josh: It would annoy the fuck out of you at the office if I run.

Tommy: I don't want you— no, you couldn't do it here though.

Ryan: We could get a treadmill in the garage down there.

Tommy: Oh yeah, you can do that. No, I've got all the fucking equipment. So the barrier, it's just all about barriers. And obviously you don't see the different places and meeting people as a barrier for you. What's the—

Ryan: well, I don't see exercise as meeting people. I can easily not talk to anyone and just do my thing. The F45 is so hard. Not like hard, but you're busy doing the F45.

Tommy: Puffing. Yeah, you're puffing. Yeah, it's fine.

Ryan: Yeah, everyone high-fives at the end of the class.

Josh: It's kind of nice. Do you really high-five?

Ryan: Yeah, it's nice.

Josh: No, you lost me. You said that there's no interaction.

Tommy: If you want a high-five, you can.

Ryan: And I like a high-five at the end of the day.

Josh: Well, you have to high-five. You can't go— if someone is doing this No, but they really do.

Ryan: People don't just walk around being like—

Josh: When do they high-five? Like after each session?

Ryan: No, at the end of the whole thing, because it's tiring.

Josh: Well done, guys.

Ryan: Good on you. Good on me. Yeah, you fucking finished it.

Tommy: Anyway, so you're living back in Melbourne now?

D: Yep.

Ryan: Uh, getting fit for free because I'm unemployed and I don't want to pay.

Tommy: Yeah, true.

Josh: So when is it starting?

Ryan: Um, I'm gonna go to F45 Eltham tonight, I think.

Tommy: Great.

Josh: Eltham, you're gonna sign up?

Ryan: Gonna sign up, do a few times there, and then I'll head up to Stawell, up to the farm where Bridget is, and there's a couple of gyms I've been sussing out up there. So, but I'll have to move around a lot over the next 6 months because I can't just keep hitting up the same place.

Josh: You're just going to say, hey, I'm just here for a trial.

Ryan: I don't quit, like, they don't care. It's not their gym. They're just like, like, most of it's online and you just rock up and say, I signed up, and they just go, here you go.

Josh: I just reveal myself too much. Like, these things, just like I elevate— like, Bree and I, uh, were asked by someone, like, um, one of her work colleagues that when we were overseas to go into a chocolate shop and buy some chocolate because they wanted to taste this American chocolate. And Bri and I went into the chocolate shop to buy it. And I just like, Bri and I were laughing about it the other day because it is pretty ridiculous. But I was like, I was nervous about them asking like, what do we do for work? And then Bri would say that she works for a chocolate company and then they'll find out that we're researching. Yeah.

Ryan: I can imagine Josh getting these free trials. Doing the fit for free and they— oh hey, just thanks for coming to the gym. I'm doing this thing for YouTube and it's a scam and it's a loophole.

Josh: I would actually end up— I would sign up with all of them. I'd be like, you know what, this is costing me 10 grand a month. That's what I would end up—

Ryan: that's going to be the most awkward part is when they're gonna have to cancel because they're gonna take your card. Or no, no, no, because usually they will call you. Yeah, after your trial's up, you're gonna get a burner phone.

Tommy: Yeah, you should get a burner.

Ryan: Should I get a burner?

Josh: Yeah, just give Tommy's number, he doesn't give a shit.

Ryan: I just— but they always go, oh, how'd you like it? Oh yeah, it was great, love the facilities. Uh, you know, we've got this special coming up, it's only this much a month.

Tommy: And I'm like, just say you got a job and I'm flying out tomorrow to live.

Josh: Well, how about this? When we were at the gym, I saw the guy that signed me up in the, um, in the change rooms. And then while he's in the change rooms, I got a text message his name was Tom. I got a text message from him asking how the gym was. I think it was just the timing. Yeah, but it freaked me out. I'm like, what the fuck is this guy? He's just here, he's just texting me.

Tommy: Tom the Dirty Dog's just sending them automated.

Ryan: They do a good job. I got an automated text after my first F45 in North Freo, and I was like, hey, it's Dan, how was your first class? Drink plenty of water tonight, hopefully see you again soon. And I was like, how nice is Dad? And then Bridget got the same one.

Josh: Then I was like, really?

Tommy: Exactly. When I had my, um stripping agency. We used a company called—

Josh: Have you ever called an agency before?

Tommy: Yeah, we called it an agency, stripping agency.

Josh: What was it called again?

Tommy: Uh, Aussie Spunks. But we had this thing called Impact Data. A friend of mine, PK, used to work there. It was, you know, text mailouts. You know, you build out your mailing list plus text and you can send out messages for events you're holding and shit. We can actually do that for the Daily Talk Show, like a text message send out.

Josh: Yeah, it's more personal.

Tommy: Yeah, so I, um, got I got, was it City Power? I got an email. I got something happened where we got, I got this text message from City Power and then it was like some random, like, just letting you know there's works happening, X, Y, and Z. And then next minute I get this Instagram message from this girl and it was because you or Derek stuck a sticker, The Daily Talk Show, on a City Power pole. And she writes to me, she goes, why haven't you told us this yet? No, get there, I'll get there. She messaged and she's like, uh, look at, uh, um, naughty. I'm gonna, you know, I'll tell the work, my work on you. And it was just a joke. And then I was like, oh, also tell them to stop texting me. And then she messaged me back and she's, what do you mean? And I sent her a screen grab. She's like, they are from November last year. I don't know how you got that. And so I—

Josh: what do you mean, what was from November?

Tommy: The text message.

Josh: It was like, you only just got it. I only just got it.

E: She's like, what?

Tommy: I don't know why you got that, but 'But these text messages from November last year.' So it had nothing to do— it just was a coincidence that I didn't even know she worked at City Power and that we'd stuck it on the pole.

Josh: But the sticker thing, like, I've been— because all the fucking stickers have been taken down around Collingwood.

Tommy: Oh, do they have? Ah, yeah, that's the case. Yeah.

Josh: Like, I put them up, the dailytalkshow.com stickers, and they've been like— I went— I was walking to work the other day and you can actually see like there's a mark, like our adhesive has taken off the The bold paint.

Tommy: Gonna get better, better spot, higher.

Josh: But so the question is, but why didn't you tell?

Tommy: So it's nothing to do, she was joking, she was joking.

Josh: But she doesn't know us.

Tommy: No, she—

Josh: I know her. Okay.

Ryan: Are you scared that City Power is going to knock on the door and say you're bringing down the—

Josh: The bit that I missed was that you knew her.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: No, I thought this random person found the dailytalkshow.com sticker, then found you as the host, and then reached out to you.

Tommy: I mean, that was, that was totally good wishful thinking. Yeah, it was just coincidental that I got a text. Anyway, uh, thanks for coming on, mate. We'll have you back in now that you live in Melbourne.

Ryan: Yeah, I'm just down the road sometimes and sometimes up on the farm. I'm 50/50, I think. Still trying to work out where I live.

Josh: Well, it depends on which gym's going to give it. At the end of the day, you're going to sign up with the gym.

Ryan: Um, no.

Josh: Are you going to use their showers too? Is this your way of saying you're just homeless? You're just kidding.

Ryan: Well, I am a drifter. Like, I'm 50% up on on the farm.

Josh: Call it a nomad. Call it a nomad.

Tommy: Yeah, don't say drifter.

Ryan: I like drifter. And then also in Perth, I've, uh, re-signed to do, um, the Spring Racing Carnival, uh, in Perth. So I'll be—

Josh: you're a jockey, right?

Ryan: Uh, well, hopefully I'll be thin enough to be a jockey by the time I finish with the free trials. But I actually did a video with some jockeys last year for the Spring Carnival and about what they eat on race day, and it is wild. Like, it's—

Josh: what do they eat? Nando's?

Tommy: I mean, it's gonna be short, so Uh, it's like— I didn't mean it like that. I mean, the list is going to be short.

Ryan: The list of food, 200ml of water and an apple for 24 hours before a race.

Tommy: Really?

Ryan: And thinking how hard you'd actually work when you're racing, to think you're on an empty stomach and dehydrated is like— it's gross.

Josh: Yes. Yeah, I wouldn't want to ride a horse.

Tommy: Absolutely.

Josh: Also, I wouldn't want to ride a horse after a big lunch either. No. Just before we go admin, what have we got happening missing i7.

Ryan: At least notes for the show.

Josh: Uh, this was from yesterday's show actually. Okay, okay, we've got Dan Dibs.

Tommy: Yes, uh, rap.

Josh: Oh, so here we go. So this is a hashtag exclusive, Ryan.

Tommy: We got a message from a friend of ours who said— I gotta be honest, I asked him to do it.

Josh: Did you really?

Tommy: Well, I was like, oh, I would love a rap. You know when you put something out there because— and you just see that it sticks? I was like, oh mate, it would be amazing if you like did a freestyle about it.

Josh: Are you the mate that goes to a friend's restaurant restaurant and says, oh geez, I'd love a chips or something, like some extra. I wouldn't want a restaurant for that very reason. People asking for free shit, that's the reason you wouldn't want a restaurant.

Ryan: You're the weirdest guy.

Josh: Anyway, would you want to do like— just the pressure of—

Ryan: for the thought, who do I give free— that wouldn't be the deciding factor.

Josh: Yeah, who do I give free meals to? Seriously, are you, are you going to have a wedding? No. Yeah, see, why?

Ryan: Actually, now I'm on your side because no, I'm not paying for anyone.

Josh: Yeah, well, you don't want to have to fucking worry about who are you picking anyway.

Ryan: Is I'm not not having a wedding because I can't decide on a guest list.

Josh: Oh really? That's why Bray and I aren't having a wedding.

Tommy: It's because he's got 3 mortgages. Yeah, exactly.

Josh: I don't know if it's—

Tommy: anyway, I spoke to Hayden Deeb and I was like, mate, your brother, he's got some sick raps. I like him, you know, he's like Logic. He's a bit like Logic.

Josh: Anyway, Logic is a rapper.

Tommy: Yeah, a rapper. Anyhow, I said when I was texting, I was chatting with Dan, I said, mate, it'd be sick if we get like a should do a fucking rap for us, and he's done it.

Josh: It's amazing. So here we go. So this is an exclusive, uh, this is Daniel Dibb.

Tommy: This is to take us out.

Josh: No, no, no, no, I think we, we don't— this won't take us out. We'll, we'll play it and then we'll do other— because there's so much.

Ryan: People on YouTube are just going to watch the three of us listen to it.

Josh: Absolutely, that's what the show is. Well, welcome.

Tommy: Here we go.

Josh: Welcome to the Daily Talk Show, a place filled with empty promises and grunts, but the love is all the same, bro. The number one podcast in the world if you ask me. You can stream it on your phone, laptop, or your TV. Yeah, so grab your tea and your coffee and relax. Go get comfy, this is the Daily Talk Show. 3D Deal, Mr. 97, and your hoes, Josh and Tommy.

Ryan: Yeah.

Josh: Did he say hosts or hoes? I mean, the one thing listening to music is very good. Daniel Dibb, thank you very much for that. Even though Tommy did a little bit of prompting, well, yeah, it still required initiative in him, actually.

Tommy: It was amazing.

Ryan: You have to write that.

Josh: That was great.

Tommy: Yeah, thanks, dude.

Josh: No, Tommy wrote it as well.

Ryan: That's not true.

Josh: No, the pressure of listening to music. We've had Josh Simons, a mate of ours who's big in the music scene. We're at his place in LA and he's like, do you want to listen to a track that I'm working on producing at the moment? He puts it on, he's just bopping. And when you're in that scene, when you're listening to someone's music, the polite thing to do He's just a bop. Yeah, yeah. And I just thought, fuck, I'm a bopper.

Tommy: It feels weird because it's not our world.

Josh: Like, did you bop?

Tommy: Yeah, I was just like, this is sick. I was also—

Josh: we meant to do it at like concerts and stuff too.

Tommy: I was a bit happy from all those mojitos that we had. Yeah, they were, they were delicious.

Josh: No, yeah, samosas.

Tommy: Are they the Indian or the, um, something?

Ryan: I was at a gig on Saturday night and no one was really dancing. Everyone was kind of just watching the band and someone said to me, oh, that's a Melbourne thing.

Tommy: What, just not dancing?

Josh: Yeah, maybe I am a Melburnian after all.

Tommy: You are, mate.

Josh: I know.

Ryan: Well, because I would have thought bopping was like normal, like you're watching a band and you're like, yeah, yeah, Bridget was dancing and everyone else was just like—

Josh: Bridget was dancing? Yeah. On what? Like, is it like on the dance floor?

Ryan: No, just like watching the band and just being like, what, singing? And then what do you mean, on what?

Josh: Anyway, it feels like there's always like the— like, especially, uh, my brother used to play in like Ruby's Lounge in fucking near the Basin. Yeah, I think it's about that way. Yeah. And it's— and yeah, Furniture Galley. Exactly. And they would— there was always someone who was just a bit fucking off their head.

Tommy: It takes one to start a dance floor.

Josh: Would be like dancing like that.

Tommy: One brave soul.

Josh: Other admin.

Tommy: Yeah.

E: We got a message from Dill. A three-dimensional dill, not the actual 3D Dill.

Josh: Yeah, this is Dylan.

E: Mason, he sent in a message saying, at some point we all forget to update our email settings. Don't give yourselves a hard time. It's no big deal. It's not like you did something bad like chopping your thumb off.

Josh: Is it Dill vs. Dill?

Tommy: It was kind that he just addressed it to all of us, not Mason.

D: Yeah.

E: Loving the show. Can't believe you've done 400 episodes. Loving all the content from all the way in Ireland. So keep killing it, Gronks.

Tommy: I still take photos. Yeah. Dill Takes Photos is his Instagram.

Josh: He does it like amazing stuff. Do you know he did, I didn't realise this, I was watching a livestream of his. He did like 2 and a half years of daily Insta storeys where he would like completely like produce them and build them out. Didn't miss a single day.

Tommy: Crazy.

Josh: We're only 18 months in. Any other admin?

E: Yeah, we got a message from Nicholas. Absolutely killing it, guys. One of the most genuine online productions out there as far as I'm concerned. Gronkh on?

Tommy: Oh, that's good to finish on.

D: Yeah, yeah.

Josh: Is there any negative feedback? No, no, we throw it away.

Tommy: We drop it.

Josh: Um, yeah, what are those YouTubers that do the diss tracks? How long until we get a diss track? Yeah, that's not prompted by you.

Ryan: I've got some admin as well, by the way.

Josh: Okay, yeah, what's your admin?

Ryan: Guys, go to Cameo and look for The Daily Talk Show. By the time you're watching this or hearing this— how much should we charge? Let's all decide now how much we charge.

Tommy: Mate, we're not worth any more than $5.

Ryan: Yeah, let's go $10. Let's go $10.

Josh: Yeah, I mean, what's the credit card fee?

Tommy: You're still over the $2. It's about as sad as having a Patreon with 2 subscribers, 2 Patreons.

Josh: Definitely has that vibe. It's a daily talk show. Ryan John, where are people sort of keeping up to date with you?

Ryan: At cameo.com/RyanJohn. And I just— Instagram or Facebook is where most of my clan is. So just search for Ryan John. And is the podcast Life of Ryan No, that's, uh, that's on the bench at the moment.

Josh: Okay, that's fine.

Ryan: It's funny how you guys like video guys now doing a lot of audio, and I was an audio guy now doubling down on the video.

Josh: Yeah. Did radio say, hey, you can't do a podcast for the next X amount of time or anything? Oh, I don't know.

Ryan: That's actually a really good question.

Tommy: I mean, read the fine print, bro.

Ryan: Yeah, I probably should, but, uh, I won't be on the— actually, I won't say anymore.

Josh: But yeah, it's the Daily Talk Show. Ryan, John, thanks for coming on the show. Hi@thedailytalkshow.com if you want to send us an email. Also, just take a screen grab, do an Instagram story. Ben Fordham did an Instagram story, which is lovely. Even hashtagged #GronkhSquad.

Tommy: He knows what's up. He hosts the Ninja Warrior. I would love to see you trying just to hold yourself up.

Josh: The funny thing is, the first obstacle, because Bree and I were watching it last night and there's literally one where you have to hold on to a pole and just turns. I was like, I said, that's so fucking easy. Like, I could actually, I could actually, I could do it. I actually could do it. That's the one thing I could do, hold on. It's also the one thing you can hold on.

Ryan: One thing, let's call Ben Fordham right now. He just started on Sydney Live 2GB.

Tommy: Oh, he's at his afternoon show.

Josh: I've actually been listening to it.

Tommy: Let's call him out, see if, uh, absolutely not.

Josh: It's a daily talk show. Yeah, we'll see tomorrow, guys.

Tommy: See you guys.