Dating Release Forms

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show, episode 295. What's happening, guys?

Josh: It's Monday here in Melbourne, in Collingwood.

Tommy: Yeah, I'm feeling good, off to a good week. I'm actually feeling good because I haven't, uh, coming off the back of a weekend.

Josh: I've had trauma in my life previously.

Tommy: Yeah, of drinking myself to stupidity and then feeling absolutely rubbish on a Monday, but that's no longer for me.

Josh: We live above a bottle-o. And we had a—

Tommy: no pay, no say, do not say that name.

Josh: I won't say which. Is bottle-o an official—

Tommy: a bottle shop? Bottle-o is an Australian term, but I think there is actually a brand called Bottle-o, but I won't say, I won't say the specific. They're one of the top 2, top 3.

Josh: But we had a drink on Friday night.

Tommy: Did you?

Josh: Yeah, rosé.

Tommy: Dude, you, you, you drink more than me. Yeah, that's official because I don't drink. You've got like this weird thing where it's like I don't drink, but then if you're feeling a bit like you want to drink, you'll drink.

Josh: Well, if Bree wants to, but I wanted red. Yeah, I wanted sort of like a Sauvignon Blanc or some sort of white.

Tommy: Of course, because it's hot weather.

Josh: I—

Tommy: but I imagine trying to drink a bottle of red on a 40-degree day.

Josh: We, uh, came to the middle compromise with the rosé.

Tommy: Yeah, nice color. What do you think of it? Can we do Wine Library with Josh?

Josh: With Josh?

Tommy: Yeah, the guy who hates alcohol.

Josh: It all sort of tastes the same, but it was, it was, um I think it was because Bree was going upstairs and she saw like people just like preparing for their night and they had a bottle of wine, you know, going up into their apartment. Yeah, there's some something nice about watching the sun set.

Tommy: Well, 100%, I have quit alcohol for 2019. I'm taking bookings for drinking partners in 2020 currently.

Josh: Do you think you'll go real hard?

Tommy: No, no, I don't think so. By the time it gets to 2020, I've just got this vision of January, hot in Australia, down the beach for a week in a beach house, just sinking piss on the beach, playing with my son. Yeah, real thick, a big oaky Shiraz on the beach in 40-degree temperatures. No, but I'm looking forward to it. But I am, um, yeah, I— this, this year, I mean, this is the thing. I was cooking last night and I had some, um, some cheese and I had some salami and I had some biscuits some crackers, and I was just thinking how good it would be to drink some red wine. And so you get in these little habits, like you're saying Friday night everyone's getting their little thing. You do find these little— it's just this nice little routine that people get into. But there— I wanted to give an update each month on how I'm feeling. This is— I'm into my third month of no drinking. I wasn't an alcoholic before, I just always drank, and to excess a lot of the times.

Josh: Sound like an alcoholic. That definitely does.

Tommy: No, no, no, I had control. Or maybe I didn't have control of— now that I haven't been drinking, I, I realise the amount of times I drank to get fucked up. No, but to reduce some levels of anxiety or some feelings and emotions. Like, I have struggled, like, and I've been more aware of my mental struggles in this year than I ever have, but nothing much has changed. Like, I don't have like some ridiculous amounts of stress. Although the thing is, I'm now working with you, so it all comes up.

Josh: But you just bring it to the office now. Do you think that you're actually— do you reckon you bring more stress to your day-to-day, or would the self-medicating of the drinking end up bringing the anxiety anyway on the Monday?

Tommy: Yeah, 100%. And this is the thing, right? I'm— I, I struggle.

Josh: You're fucked either way.

Tommy: Well, I, I realise the struggle that I have with no alcohol, and then I really— and then I think about the added layer of struggle that drinking adds to it. So I'm, you know, I feel anxious at times, I feel, you know, shitty, and then you drink, right, which masks it, and then you get— and then it sort of all builds up, and so then you become irritable and shit. So I'm just realising how I'm fucked without it, I'm fucked with it. So I've got to work out how to deal with my shit, my, you know, like deal with myself. And so it sounds like it's bad, sounds like I have, you know, high levels of anxiety, but I think I do. I've never, I've never identified myself as having anxiety, but I feel like I am thinking more that I am a person that deals with anxiety. And I think you see it in me too, but I've never—

Josh: Classic though, 2019, anxiety comes cool. And then all of a sudden Tommy comes in, I'm like, anyone else feeling a bit anxious? Jesus Christ. No, but I get it. I think that every— I think we all have varying levels, 100%. Um, but what you realise in regards to drinking, I have the same issues with food. Breeze, uh, on Friday had a big photo shoot. She works at Hey Tiger, a chocolate brand.

Tommy: Mate, no, oh no, they're a, they're a social enterprise.

Josh: They're a social enterprise. We give out free, uh, yeah, free bits. But, um, Bree brought home a huge, huge, huge container full of all the chocolate that they used on the photo shoot.

Tommy: Had this been touched by everybody? Do you think it's like— you didn't give a fuck?

Josh: When you're a junkie, you don't care. You don't fuck it. Like, it was high qual in my books. Yeah. So I just— that's what I ate all weekend on the move.

Tommy: It was just—

Josh: yeah, finish the whole thing.

Tommy: And so, because I think Yeah, it's such a similarity to alcohol for me. Like, saying no is the best thing for me, even though I, like, I can put a lid on it and have time off. But it's just like— that's why I think, like, you love dark chocolate and you see it as—

Josh: I was eating every— I had a white chocolate with the cereal crushed up in it. Did you?

Tommy: Sorry, I thought you had white chocolate and you crushed it up onto cereal.

Josh: No, no, no, that was— they had all different versions and I was just eating all of them. And the thing was that, like, Bree even realised we were building IKEA furniture last night, and Bree's like, where have you gone? I'm trying to find the IKEA, um, the instructions. Yeah, he said, why are you in the fridge though?

Tommy: I said, were you trying to lie to it?

Josh: No, I was just like, I was doing two things at once. I was like multitasking while I'm also having some chocolate from the fridge.

Tommy: Do you think it's— have you ever done a period of time like zero chocolate because chocolate is your vibe. You said last week when we're sucking back on 1,000-calorie smoothies— no, I keep calling them smoothies, they're not fucking smoothies.

Josh: They're not smoothies.

Tommy: Milkshakes, thick shakes. You're like, oh man, sugar's definitely my vice. You think?

Josh: Yeah, well, the thing is, I also like chocolate. I also like dark, dark chocolate, but I can also go to the very severe. But it was this weekend was that tipping point where Bri and I both knew that starting Monday, this is a reset. Like, this is the biggest reset of the year.

Tommy: I mean, I've had the JJ reset blow up where you've like—

Josh: What does that look like?

Tommy: In Tom's Cafe, no pay, no say, but Tom is our friend. You like, well, like, I'm done. It was a big weekend. You'd blown it out. You'd been in Healesville. You'd smashed a parma and a bit more of someone else's parma.

Josh: That's true.

Tommy: Probably some chippies too.

Josh: Fuck, I've been doing it for a while. You—

Tommy: what my understanding is, the blow-ups and then the turning points, there's been a few of them. And so what do you think it is? Because for me, I just, I couldn't just have— I couldn't say yes to alcohol one weekend. It's like, do you think it's a matter of going, I'm done, I'm out of that style?

Josh: I think that part of it, I work out all these things I stop doing. Stop drinking lots of water, stop walking, all those things. So I'm just dialling all of those things in. Thanks, Mr. 97, for the bottle of water.

Tommy: Yeah, appreciate this. And he sets me up with my seat. If you— this is a guy who's thoughtful.

Josh: Mr. 97, update on 97 soon.

Tommy: Yeah, um, I think there is— I, I just push back, and I know I can't push back for you, but I push back on that radical change. And I know that sometimes radical change can be The tipping point, but like implement it, like slowly implementing things. That's why I always think detoxes—

Josh: yeah, I'm like, it's bullshit.

Tommy: Detox is bullshit because you're just going from such a— it's so drastic. And you can just slowly implement the changes and make them super hypocritical though, to quit alcohol for a year and then say anything is extreme. Yeah, you know, it's extreme. Um, but so, but quitting, so That's what I'm saying. Do you think it's— do you think quitting for you would be quitting?

Josh: I reckon people undervalue quitting as a thing. I think that a lot of people like, ah, moderation, but for a lot of people moderation doesn't work. Anyway, um, the most exciting thing— the two, two things to happen, uh, we are now close enough, the office is close enough.

Tommy: Well, we said yesterday you've moved so close that you're going to be late. And you're late this morning.

Josh: Yeah, well, I left at 8:25 and you're still late. Yeah, because we have our meeting at 8:30, but yeah, I'm still working out how long it takes me to walk. It takes me like, what, 4 minutes maybe? Yeah, but I'm very excited because during the move I found my walkie-talkies.

Tommy: Yeah, and why the fuck do you have walkie-talkies?

Josh: Like, because they're like legit ones that you'd see people, security guards at music festivals and So the, um, the reason I have them is because Dick Smith, who aren't around anymore, or maybe Kogan bought them, they're only online. Oh yeah, Dick Smith had a sale, uh, maybe 4 years ago. Yeah. And, um, I think about $49. I think I saw them on OzBargain maybe. And so I went there and managed to score a couple.

Tommy: And what have you used them for? Because this is a purchase that, I mean, what, what could you possibly need walkie-talkies for?

Josh: Well, when I was a kid, I used to walk around the national park, and so I would speak to Mum and I would want to see how far I could go. So I would just be like, Mum, can you hear me now? Over. She'd be like, yep. And I'd walk another 100 meters, go, Mum, can you still hear me now? Over. And then she wouldn't say anything. I'm like, Mum, can you hear me now? Over. She's like, yes. And so we'll do that for a bit until it works out.

Tommy: Your mum's back to play.

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: But the thing is that sometimes there was big winds because they're line of sight where I actually go onto a hill and I could pick up Mum from really far away. So that was exciting. But these— so I had some and I gave them to my dad for him to use for work and they got real grotty.

Tommy: Oh, and he actually used them?

Josh: Yeah, he was actually using them.

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: So, but when these came up on sale, I thought You never know when you'll need walkie-talkies.

Tommy: When will we need walkie-talkies?

Josh: Well, it's about to be a big part of the show, so what I've decided is I think we might start by calling it the 3 Kilometer Club. Yeah, okay. And so what we are going to do is if you are within 3 kilometres of the show—

Tommy: is that the distance that these can go? Yes, that's, that's pretty far, dude.

Josh: I think these say that they go 5Ks. But through my research at Churchill Park National Park, they never go as far as what they say. They're always— they'll say 5Ks, they'll probably go 3.

Tommy: So you've taken 2 off. So that makes sense.

Josh: What I asked on Instagram was for people in Collingwood, if you're around the area, because what I want to eventually do is give each person a walkie-talkie. Once a week we give one person the walkie-talkie.

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: And they are our emergency walkie-talkie line. Okay, so this has to be someone who either lives or works within 3 kilometers.

Tommy: Yeah, and so they have to have it on them because we record the shows. Absolutely have to have it mid-mornings, especially when we go live. This will work really well.

Josh: They're on call.

Tommy: Okay, they're on. So, so you're not going to buy multiples? I was thinking this is now going to cost— well, yeah, I was thinking loads of money.

Josh: I was thinking about it. It's got to be cost effective. We've got to use the ones that we have. But okay, the thing is that we currently— the reason this all came about was because I believe that where I live is within walkie-talkie distance. Yeah. And so maybe that could be walkie-talkie distance. I like that as a phrase. How far is walking? It's walkie-talkie distance.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Um, so Bree is working from home today.

Tommy: Is she home right now?

Josh: Uh, I'm not sure, but the walkie-talkie is in the kitchen. And so if we can organize, if we can get Bree to turn on the walkie-talkie.

Tommy: Surely she's— she'd be hearing that right now, wouldn't she?

Josh: No, because you don't understand how the— how this works. So you're putting on the headphones. Can you hear that?

Mason: Hey babe.

Josh: Hey Breezy, how are you?

Mason: I'm good, how are you?

Josh: I'm good. Are you at home?

Mason: I'm just with Lucy at the plant place. Okay, we're about to go home.

Tommy: Oh great, so when you get home, Bree— oh hey, it's me here. It's Tommy. When you get home, can you make sure you turn on the walkie-talkie, please?

Josh: How far off are you? How long do you—

Mason: 5 minutes.

Josh: 5 minutes. Okay, so there's a walkie-talkie.

Mason: 8 minutes.

Josh: 8 minutes. Okay. Yeah, there's the walkie-talkie in the kitchen. Can you put it on to— when you get home, you hold down the menu button that's also got a power button. You'll hear a noise and it should be—

Mason: menu and power button.

Josh: No, yeah, so the menu is the power button. There's a single button, you hold it down, you'll hear a beep. And then if it's on 16, make sure it's on 16, and then can you just say, uh, radio cheque please? Um, and I'll then say you're working, and then we'll know.

D: Yeah.

Josh: And if we don't hear from you in—

Mason: so just turn it on 16 and say radio cheque please.

Tommy: Yeah, exactly.

Josh: And if we don't hear anything within 15 minutes, um, we will send someone over. Mr. 97 will come over. But we— all right, so I'm just— I've got it on full, full volume, and you should be able to change the channel from the top left.

Tommy: All right, catch ya, see you. All right, love you, bye-bye. Your mum, uh, Bree's just become— yeah, your mum. Absolutely entertaining your games.

Josh: Bree doesn't— isn't working today, she's got the day off because we are—

Tommy: no, Josh has to stay home from work because he wants to do this, uh, walkie-talkie club. No, but I was into walkie-talkies. There is something about— isn't that old school? Like the communication, like being able to just down the line.

Josh: It's number 3 normally has like— if I go to—

Tommy: what, you can get other people's signals?

Josh: Yeah, that's good.

Tommy: I reckon just sending it out, see if we can—

Josh: I'll just do on 3, I'll see if there's anyone. Yeah, radio cheque please, radio check.

Tommy: If this works, I'll be blown away.

Mason: Surely.

Tommy: I mean, it's probably a great game for when you're by yourself.

Josh: Yeah, it never happens. I'll do it one more on channel 1. Radio check, please. Radio check.

Tommy: Please.

Josh: These fucking things are dumb.

Tommy: Please work.

Josh: I'll do one more channel. I reckon 8. I've got a good feeling about 8. This is good podcasting material.

D: Yeah.

Josh: Radio check, please. Radio check.

Tommy: Absolutely horrible podcasting.

Josh: All right, so it's on. I'm putting it back onto 16.

Tommy: Yeah, so 5 minutes, we should have Bree back.

Josh: But I just love being connect— the feeling of being connected.

Tommy: We're currently doing a podcast which can go out to Kazakhstan. Someone listens there, bro.

Josh: I was actually like, where I thought this could eventually go with the whole walkie-talkie thing, where you can go really, really— you could go like I'm talking other side of the world.

Tommy: What, with a walkie-talkie?

Josh: With proper CB radio.

Tommy: So if we could get a system where we could cheque into truck drivers and stuff, like that's what I'd be interested.

Josh: I would like— on that, I know we're a no-say, no-pay, no-say.

Tommy: Yeah, but Uniden, mate, they did my house phone, my home phone. Yeah, the portable. And so, um, where's the portable?

Josh: Uniden, they do like the big fuck-off ones as well. If we could get like a big antenna. How do you feel about that?

Tommy: So what, what you're doing is currently saying so they start paying?

Josh: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So they give us a— because I dreamt of having that, like when I was a kid, having a walkie-talkie that was able to pick up stuff from anywhere.

Tommy: Is there, um, laws around actually recording these people and what they're saying? Like, it's all very certain, they're not getting— they're not exploring, um, deep topics on, on the CB radio lines.

Josh: I don't think— I actually was thinking about it on the walk to work.

Mason: I don't know.

Josh: I think that it would be illegal for us to be putting the show across non-stop recording, like— sorry, not recording, like actually playing through the podcast live.

Tommy: Well, we could start a channel. I know, but then it's Just a— isn't this radio station? No, we're just broadcasting it. We'll start with episode 1. We've got at least 24 hours of non-stop content now. How do you put it on loop?

Josh: How do you feel about actually setting up like a pirate radio station?

Tommy: I don't even know what that is.

Josh: So within, within Easy Street, yeah, we could definitely get an FM transmitter and have a frequency. So if you are— if you're on Easy Street we could fulfil my dream of having a radio show.

Tommy: This is the thing, you've got a— you've basically got one. We've got an even better one, that one that lives on the internet.

Josh: Imagine if we had a frequency though. It's a daily talk show, 80.6 on Easy Street, just on Easy Street.

Tommy: God, the thing we didn't want this show to be was a radio show.

Josh: It's turning into that. But connection-wise, yeah, very excited. I was geeking out, um, with Mr. 97 before about The speeds, the speeds of my internet.

Tommy: Oh, I nearly vomited when, when you, um, when you told me that. So you called me on Friday, it's like, man, you're so excited.

Josh: That's—

Tommy: it's kind of cool, but I probably don't find it as cool as what you do. You're like, dude, I got internet connected.

Josh: It was the quickest internet that I've ever had connected. I called them, uh, I called them at 3 PM.

Tommy: How'd you find them?

Josh: Firstly, so I was straight away on to the property managers about it.

Mason: Okay.

Josh: And they're so vague. I'm like, what's the deal with the internet? Like, I think we've got a sheet somewhere that explains it. I'm like, I need that now. And so they ended up scanning and printing out this, this sheet. Yeah. And it was one ISP, which it's sort of like when you're part of an apartment block or whatever, sometimes they say your energy provider is Origin or whatever, and you get discounts.

Tommy: First time I heard of this. So they— everyone's on it, so you get a discount on it.

Josh: So you all have to do it. And so it turns out that the internet is all connected through one company, so it's like an alternative to NBN. So they control all of the stuff. So anyway, I call them and, um, someone who answered would sound like they were from India. I was like, I like— this is going to be a clusterfuck. No, it was just an Indian person that was across the road from me.

Tommy: Brilliant.

Josh: And they said, oh, we can get, um, uh, we can get a technician there today if you like. This is 3 PM on Friday.

Tommy: That's pretty good.

Josh: And so I filled out the form, emailed it back to them, and they had a guy there at 4:30 installing the unit. And so what he said, that out of 80 apartments, so the speeds everyone. They're all different tiers. There was a 200 megabits up and down speed.

Tommy: Yeah, well, and my internet at home, I get about 4, and I pay $49 a month. Yeah, but it allows me to stream Netflix and search stupid shit and do email, which is pretty much all I need it for, need for home.

Josh: And so I was thinking big. I was straight away starting to think about point-to-point, sort of where I can see the trains where BK works.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: I can see, um, above like where Easys is.

Tommy: So you can see pretty much across the road from where we record this podcast.

Josh: And so what I was thinking is I could set— we could set up a network point-to-point to go to BK, and I was even speaking to Scooter Derek about it. And then once it's at BK's, we could point it down to Derek, to us. And so we could have a network where we can share files and we've got fast internet.

Tommy: I mean, it's, it's thoughtful. I don't know how much we'd use it. We've got pretty good internet right now. Well, I just— I think it's 60 as opposed to 200. How much did you— how much do you pay per month for yourself and Bree? I'm sure Bree's just streaming Netflix at home.

Josh: Yeah, well, the thing is, is we can have Sonos going, we've got Netflix going, we can be down.

Tommy: Like, you do that with most internet.

Josh: The thing was I was trying to like cap it out on the weekend. I was like using my laptop had my iPhone, had Netflix going. I'm like, Bree, you go into another— yeah, it was fucking smashing it. So I pay $179, $179 a month, which— Mr. 97, what do you think? You, you guessed that it was over $200. Yeah, $179 is not a bad deal for a commercial grade.

Tommy: How's it a good deal though, like for what you do?

Josh: Well, because when I was— this is how I was thinking about it. So we get 50 megabits up here. Yeah, uh, in the office. And so what I was thinking is, on a, on a day where we have something big for a client that needs to— we need to get to them really quickly, we could do it like 4 times faster at my place. So I was like, okay, so if, if I could say— if we just say, roughly said, our time's worth $100 an hour—

Tommy: we're actually watching in real time someone justify spending $160 a month on the internet.

Josh: Justifymypurchase.com. Was the domain name that I owned. If we save an hour—

Tommy: Oh, is that someone calling?

Josh: I think this is Bree. Hang on, here we go. I think Bree pressed the wrong button. Radio check, please. Radio check. Standby. No, no, this is definitely happening. Radio check, please. Bree, make sure you're pressing the top button to talk, not the bottom call button. Radio check, please. Radio check.

Tommy: Imagine if Lynn Jansen—

Mason: I think it's working, maybe.

Josh: Yes, we can hear you. Can you hear me?

Tommy: No, it works, mate. It worked at the spot where you had it.

Josh: No, but it was a little bit fuzzy. Radio check, please. Bree, can you hear us?

Tommy: This reminds me of Lost, you know, that TV show. They're getting some frequency there. The level of excitement.

Josh: If you can hear me, if you can hear me but you can't— I can't hear you, try get closer to the window or outside on the balcony. Radio check.

Tommy: Mr. 97's shaking his head. We know that he's—

Josh: oh, radio check. Yeah, you're working. This is great. Did you have to move? Yeah, it's a line of sight issue. But so you're near the window, can you— if you go out onto the balcony so you're just outside, I think we'll even get a better signal.

Tommy: And then I have to go because I have Lucy here, and then she's not here for that long. She's got things to do.

Josh: Okay, hi Lucy, um, uh, thanks Breezy, bye.

Tommy: Waiting for it, wait for it.

Josh: That Can you just say goodbye? That's—

Tommy: Bye, have a good day, good luck with your filming.

Josh: Thank you, thank you, over. Just keep the channel on, please. Was that good content?

Tommy: I mean, it's okay.

Josh: It's, um, what do you think?

Tommy: What I like most about it is—

Josh: 97, have you ever used a walkie-talkie before?

D: Yeah, we used to go on, um, car trips. We used to go on a bunch of car trips and one car had like a walkie-talkie and then the other car in front had another walkie-talkie, so you just talk to each other through them.

Tommy: That is great. Yeah, I mean, that's when it really does work.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: What I like is that you're essentially a child, like you've— something happened. Did you hit your head as a kid?

D: No.

Josh: Yeah, no, my, uh, my brother Jake. Yeah, mum was getting, um, like locking up the house and we're on a big hill and Jake pushed the pram accidentally down the hill and I flipped out. Oh God, that is horrible. But the doctor said the only thing that was wrong with me was I had grass stains on me onesie. But little did he know.

Tommy: So my thought was that you were trapped, like that time that you— it's like Katy Perry. You said that when she became famous was the age that she stopped at. She stopped aging. She was 17 or something.

Josh: The concern I have—

Tommy: so you're a big child that's trapped in this time, and I like the excitement. I'm not trying to crush your level of enthusiasm.

Josh: You actually can't right now.

Tommy: I like your enthusiasm. That's why it's like I laugh and think it's ridiculous how much money you spend on internet. And but it all makes your old, your old rebuttal would have been, yeah, but look at how much you spend on alcohol.

Josh: Yeah, it's like, can't say that, can't say that anymore.

Tommy: But you choose to, you find the thing that that you like, and I guess it's, it's something you don't have— actually, no, you cut back your spending on a lot of things.

Josh: I don't buy that much stuff. And so, yeah, and so, um, the concern I have— so we had emails from BK, from Leon, from Alex, people all over Collingwood. Thank you. I put out a call to find, uh, some people for part of the 3K Club.

Tommy: I reckon BK is our first real.

Josh: We'll get a fucking strong signal, 100%.

Tommy: He's, he's 40 metres away and then up in the sky.

Josh: 40 metres away?

Tommy: What do you mean? It'd be about 40 metres away. What are you talking about?

Josh: Are you kidding me?

Tommy: 50 meters?

Josh: 100 meters?

Tommy: You reckon? That's no chance.

Josh: You don't know measurements. 97, what do you think?

Tommy: Think about a football field and kicking a 50-meter. The 50 meters, very far. Like, it's hard to kick a—

D: uh, maybe like 70, 70 or 80.

Josh: No, we are— we're 20 metres just to get to this side of the footpath. You reckon? Yes, guaranteed.

Tommy: I mean, this is another— we can do the measurements, but he's not 100 meters, definitely under 100 metres away. So we're getting strong signals.

Josh: Actually, let's just very, very, very quickly— let's just go. I don't think I've got BK's number, but I'll just call Derek.

Tommy: I've got BK's number.

Josh: Uh, Scooter Derek. Let's just call Scooter and find find out. I don't really care because he's a middleman. He, he has a neutral base based on how far he thinks.

Tommy: Mr. 97 is— if he had a button, he'd pull this content.

Mason: Yeah, baby.

Josh: Scooter Derek, quick question for you, mate. Yeah, um, how far do you think in metres it is from our office to BK's train? How many metres do you reckon it would be?

Tommy: So to the other side of the street, Derek?

Mason: Your office, roof of your office, or like where we record the show?

Josh: From where we record the show. Imagine if you were to do a line through the walls over to the train.

Mason: Through the wall. So imagining to get from your office to the footpath, uh, what, what you mean, across the—

Josh: all the way to where the trains are on the line of sight? Line of sight.

Mason: As the crow flies?

Josh: Yes.

Mason: Yeah, not running a cable.

Josh: No, no, no, just imagine the walkie-talkie. He's talking walkie-talkies. How many meters?

Mason: 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14.

Tommy: He sounds like he's outside.

Josh: Are you outside?

Mason: Actually, I am. I'm pacing. Yeah, it's 15 metres across the road. 15, 16.

Tommy: Yeah, exactly.

Josh: So how many metres do you reckon in total?

Mason: Total? Well, to get to the front of the train is another probably 3 meters. 4?

Josh: Are you fucking kidding me? You think it's—

Tommy: I said 40 meters.

Josh: I said 100 meters.

Mason: No, you tell him he's dreaming.

Tommy: It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous.

Josh: I don't know about this. I think we—

Mason: so you're in the walk— you're in the office, okay? So you're—

Josh: we're 20 metres from the fucking front door of our building and then another 20 metres across the road.

Mason: No, you're not. No, you're probably not 20 meters. You're probably about 6 metres from the front door.

Josh: Okay.

Mason: And then I'll give you another 16. So that's, I'll give you 22 loosely. And to get halfway into the train, then give it another 6 meters.

Josh: Okay.

Mason: So 30 meters, can't be anymore.

Josh: Okay, great. All right, thank you. It's not what I wanted to hear.

Mason: It's all about the walk.

Josh: Okay.

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: Thanks, Scooter. That's all we need to know. Where eventually you saw at the cafe, I had a walkie-talkie. I would love for you to be part of the 3-kilometer club, where in, in a couple of weeks' time we'll hand you over a walkie-talkie to be our emergency line, if that's something interesting.

Tommy: Well, he's about 55 metres away.

Josh: He's about 150.

Mason: Yeah, my wife will go nuts. She's obsessed with walkie-talkies. She buys them for the kids.

Josh: Really?

Mason: And wants them to use them. Her fantasy is Christmas shopping at Chaddy with walkie-talkies and matching Target tracksuits. That's my wife.

Josh: I know that does happen. Is she come from a four-wheel drive sort of family? Where's the love of walking?

Mason: Comes from the country, deep country. I don't know, I don't know where it come from.

Josh: Do you know what, it was more of a blokey thing.

Tommy: Old soul.

Josh: We should try and get Rupert involved.

Tommy: He's the Rupert on the radio.

Josh: Rupert on the radio. Well, he did, um, he did primary school.

Tommy: Yeah, over the CB radio.

Josh: It wasn't CB, it was like very far, 150 kilometres away. So we could definitely— we're thinking, I don't know how you feel about it, Scooter, but we It would be great to see how far we could eventually go with it. Like, if we were to set up an antenna and go for some of those really long distances, maybe we could get Michelle in England, maybe we could get someone from the US.

Tommy: Just slow the promises, bro. Let's just start with the 3K Club.

Josh: I like final promise. Uh, Scooter, tell me what you think. Tell us what you think of this, um, an FM transmitter for the show so that if you're on Easy Street, you can actually tune in.

Mason: Wow. I'd put that as a dream and not a promise. Yeah, Tommy will let it roll through.

Tommy: Yeah. No, I like this, the dreams list versus the promise list.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Because they can slide into each other and so quite easily because you transfer one across easily with your computer.

Mason: Yeah. Like, I'm going to drop that into the promise list.

Tommy: There's something so daggy about radio. That I find something so daggy. Like, you, Derek, you've been— have you been like a lover of broadcast or radio in your day, or are you still?

Mason: Yeah, I did that thing, you know, being a kid in the '70s where you literally sat there and your radio was your whole— well, it was 100% of your tech for a start. Like, everything was your little mono cassette radio. And I remember when they introduced FM and Fox FM and Eon FM, and it was like, I think it was like the Christmas of 1979 or something. And it was really, it was amazing after growing up with 3XY and trying to tape songs and stuff like that. Yeah, radio was huge, but then it faded away and then became, for ferals like me, it all became community radio.

Josh: That's what you're into now, right? Like, you go to Community Cup, which is this— how do you describe it?

Tommy: For the alcohol, bro. You go for the— you go there for the sink and piss, don't you, Derek?

Mason: No, I don't drink.

Tommy: You don't drink?

Mason: All right, look, sometimes I do.

Tommy: Why did you wear that bloody t-shirt?

Mason: Oh yeah, okay, great. And so yeah, community radio is, is awesome, and it's really, really What makes Melbourne special? One of the amazing things about Melbourne is our community radio. People can get on and listen to new music, different music, different conversations. It's not all, um, not like commercial radio at all. It's bloody awesome.

Tommy: So you're referring to like PBS, which is the PBS and Triple R.

Mason: Okay. And, and, uh, there's a few others around.

Tommy: There's a real cult following behind those.

Josh: Cause it's, and does Triple J fall into that at all or no?

Mason: Used to. Triple J was quite a thing when it popped up. Um, I was working as a courier and, and I used to always just roll my radio, the old, you know, the old knob that would roll the little lever to the right side.

Josh: Yeah, I don't.

Mason: And I, well, you know, you tune your radio by turning a knob. Yeah, this little red line would move along.

Josh: Yes.

Mason: And I would just roll to the end and that was PBS. It was easy. The last channel was it. You had to wait till you hear it and then tune it back and get it right. So that was how I tuned it in. And I, and I went to the end and it kept going and I copped this news station and it was when Triple R came to, not Triple R, Triple J came to Melbourne.

Tommy: I tell you what, there would have been a lot of people tuning out right now on this, on this show.

Mason: Sorry guys.

Josh: No, this is a joke.

Mason: Are you recording? I thought people were just chatting.

Josh: No, no, no, this is the Community, Community Cup. Um, so that's like, yeah, so a bunch of people, uh, like from community radio all playing to raise money. How far off are we from podcasting in Melbourne being big enough that all of a sudden we can have a footy game? Scooter Derek, got Sean Whelan, we've got the Shameless Girls all in a rugby field.

Mason: Yeah, you could easily field I think you could field a podcasting team in that pub cricket and pub footy where the different pubs put on the teams. But the Community Cup is the rock stars versus the radio people.

Josh: Yeah.

Mason: So it's the rock gods versus the megahertz. So, so you've got the whole music community in there at once.

Josh: Yeah. Well, I reckon we could do talk specific. I reckon we could do radio versus podcast. We've got enough friends that are in radio.

Tommy: Another promise, write this down, Mason.

Josh: That's a good one.

Tommy: Yeah, I think they're definitely— it's just a different beast. There is some nostalgia that lots of people do have to radio, but I think it's dying in terms of the new generation. Like, Mason, when was the last time you actually tuned a radio to the station that you want? Like, never.

D: I haven't done it. It must be like years.

Josh: Yeah, look at the US. PBS has become like huge in podcasting. They're some of the best podcasters in the US.

Tommy: What is PBS?

Josh: Public Broadcast. Is that what— what's the stand for, Derek? Could be like public broadcast or something. But yeah, PBS in the US is, is huge. That's, that's, um, you know, and you have that longer— yeah, longer form content and stuff. And what is it, WNYC? Which is like the New York Public Radio. Yeah, these different—

Tommy: well, they're all, yeah, shifting too.

Josh: Uh, thanks Derek.

Tommy: Thanks Desa.

Josh: We'll chat soon.

Tommy: We'll, uh, we'll pace it out together and we'll get a final number on that, um, that distance across.

Mason: Maybe someone's got— Tara's got this laser beam measure thing. Maybe we can drop that across the road. And, uh, is there a prize? We give it a tote bag or something? There's no prize.

Tommy: Josh wanted to have one up on me, but I thought you wanted to be like the radio.

Josh: I just said Yeah, we'll do a secret sound, but yeah, I don't know. Thanks, Derek. Thanks, mate. All right.

Tommy: Yeah, look, I'm on board. I want to— let's get it to BK because in the morning he's in. And so, I mean, it'll be slightly annoying for him as he runs a business, but I think he'll enjoy it.

Josh: So tomorrow we can give that to BK. Mr. 97, how you going?

D: Yeah, good.

Tommy: Good weekend. Good weekend. Look at the smile. Geez, your teeth. I've never seen them look so great. He's never smiled so hard.

Josh: 97 and I had a slight blow up on Friday night. Yeah, geez.

Tommy: I mean, I didn't really get involved. I just, I just took one step away.

Josh: Well, 97 knows that if I, uh, if he Instagram DMs us, there's a good chance that because I don't have a personal DM, it's going to be me.

Tommy: Yeah. And well, sometimes we're both actually responding, and so I think it's quite funny. No one knows who it is. Yeah, but it's just you and I.

Josh: And I felt that there was a level of blame that was being served to me in regards to 97s basically being slightly what could be described as rejected, maybe. And, uh, one of the pieces of feedback was chicks don't really like the idea of, for one, someone dating more than one person than themselves, plus they don't like it being spoken about on podcasting. Which 97 had brought up to us.

Tommy: Yeah, and I still steered clear of it.

Josh: Well, I think for the most part I did, and I may have said open for business or whatever, which—

D: and doubled down on it on social media.

Josh: And did an Insta story.

Tommy: That was actually outrageous. Yeah, I was surprised that you did that.

Josh: But it's so— it's pretty low level. It's, it's, uh, what boxes— it's not smutty.

Tommy: Yes.

Josh: Well, what boxes does it— if it were—

D: it depends who for, because like, if—

Josh: who's it for, what's it for?

D: Yeah, I mean Do we need to give context of what actually, what happened?

Tommy: Like how much do you want to talk about? This is the thing, you're delving into areas where—

D: No, look, I think it's just Josh pushed me for an answer on one of last week's episode.

Josh: About whether you're still open for dating.

D: Open for business, yeah.

Josh: Open for business, yeah.

D: And then doubled down by posting it all over Instagram.

Josh: Instagram, sure. However, what we have worked out is that Mason will answer any question. Yeah, yeah. So that will incriminate him. So that's one part of it. The second part of it is that my assumption going in was that, uh, we were doing an extended version of a reality show where, uh, Mr. 97, uh, the character on the show but also a human being— I'll give you that, you are a human being— yeah, uh, was going to be dating, and it was— it had an element of, um, entertainment to it and stuff that we would like to be able to bring up on the show.

D: I think—

Josh: I—

D: yeah, I reckon, I reckon that's, that's a fair sort of way to go about it. But it's— I can understand, like, if you come without any context, like for example, the Shame— like, coming from the Shameless Girls, you wouldn't— like, they haven't listened to our episode where we talked to Gemma and all of that, so Yeah, I can understand, sort of.

Josh: So what it means is we're definitely still open for business. You don't have to answer. I'm not asking you to answer that. That's a statement that I'm making. Mr. 97 is open for business.

Tommy: Well, I think what is dating? Dating is exactly that.

Josh: Oh, thanks.

Tommy: A bit of black. Dating is, is exactly that. What happens, we don't have to know in fine details of what Mr. 97 is up to.

Josh: But there should be an expectation that we, uh, that when Mr. 97— for the next 3 weeks, if Mr. 97 goes on a date, it is 100%— as shareholders and stakeholders of his heart, it is extremely important that the board is made aware of any progress. Yeah, would that be fair?

Mason: We don't—

Josh: the board doesn't need to know the customer's names, we don't need to know the customer's details, Yeah, but if Mr. 97—

Tommy: I think loose lips, Jansen over here, you cannot tell him legit any detail.

Josh: We've had this conversation though, haven't we? You and I have had a conversation.

Tommy: You let it slip, so just, you might be able to like wrap it up, wrap it up in something else.

Josh: So Tommy, you and I have been through this where I've said if you don't want something to go out further, yeah, yeah, don't tell me, which is a terrible trait. It's the opposite of like this. Yeah, but the friend—

D: that's different when you're pecking downstairs.

Josh: Yeah. What does the pecking downstairs mean?

D: When we're downstairs and you're just like, want to know every, every detail.

Josh: I've never heard of pecking downstairs. I thought that was some sort of sexual—

Tommy: Yeah, I did too.

Josh: You know, when I'm pecking downstairs, I'm not going to tell you about that.

Tommy: We were at the cafe and Josh was pecking, referring downstairs, like lots of questions.

Josh: Okay, yeah, so it was pecking downstairs.

Tommy: I get it, I get it. I don't want to see a trust issue arise here between Josh and Mr. 97.

Josh: So this is why communication is so important. And so what we've—

Tommy: and choosing your words is also important.

Josh: And so open for business, not good. Pecking downstairs, not good.

Tommy: The thing is, the open for business line is Mr. 97's far from the person that's just in it for the sake of it, and that's the whole thing. This is— Derek framed this segment so well. He says, loving the genius Bachelor Wants a Wife at First Sight, which is the name of this reality show, but you are a good dude. A dude who isn't looking to break hearts. And so you're just exploring the dating scene as you haven't ever done. And so yeah, we want to respect that. But so we need updates in some form.

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: And so what's the— 97 and I were talking over the weekend about how it could be framed so it's very obvious.

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: How do you feel, TJ, about, uh, when 97 gets a DM and he's saying to enter into conversation he copies and pastes a small disclaimer that you and I write that says something like, nah, dude, dude, hey, hey there, thanks so much. Just so you're aware, I, I'm on this podcast and they've set me the challenge on going on this, like, on a date a week. It would be great. I'm seeing this as an awesome opportunity to meet people, but there is an expectation that I do give my perspective on how I'm feeling throughout the process. If you'd like to go on a date just for a bit of fun, the guys won't be there. I mean, the way that I—

Tommy: actually, I've deleted you, they've blocked you at that point.

Josh: The way that I envisioned it was that we would be there with 6 cameras and 4 microphones.

Tommy: We don't have the clout of the old radio You know, but when we have our own frequency on Easy Street, maybe, maybe.

Josh: And so what's—

Tommy: so I think you just go on dates and you just talk to us about how you're feeling, nothing else, not about the girl, just about how— what's going on with you.

Josh: But how is he—

Tommy: he needs to communicate. The reality is when they actually start dating and they are boyfriend-girlfriend, she'll probably be on the show. Yeah, she'll be— you'll meet her. And so that's what I want you to have the most most chance of finding it.

Josh: But 97's concern is that he doesn't want to be having dates with someone if they aren't comfortable— I don't want to put words into your mouth— but that aren't comfortable having him, one, date other people, and two, talk openly about his whole dating life. Not specific about, oh, this chick was this, or right, right, right, right. None of that woof woof.

Tommy: I think too bad That is the dating scene. If you're up for going on a date, there's a chance of going out with someone else. So you can't— that doesn't matter.

Josh: But maybe the second bit's not as true.

Tommy: Which?

Josh: Like, if you go on a date, you just gotta expect that the guy's got a podcast or works.

Tommy: Yeah, but I think that's the thing. We're not trying— like, the person that you find will be the one that's cool with— that doesn't even give a shit. Yeah, like, I think you were trying to find someone that you can have fun with. It's like, you know, talking shit. That person most likely you will be like, whatever. And you might decide next date that you actually aren't going to be trying to date other girls. Yeah, you're just finding— so you like that person.

Josh: So you're saying no to the disclaimer?

Tommy: Definitely no to the disclaimer. That is fucking like pouring water all over.

Josh: But I feel like with how good Mr. 97's going, a little bit of water is not going to hurt him.

Tommy: No, mate.

Josh: So because we spent a lot of time on Friday night workshopping that. So what's the alternative? What do you think? How would you feel comfortable, um, Mr. 97?

Tommy: Think about how you can't—

D: yeah, not, not just copy-pasting a disclaimer.

Tommy: That's, uh, we could outsource this. Yeah, I mean, this is the thing, just be you and keep being you. And just—

Josh: he was him and look what happened.

D: I think, I think there could potentially be a conversation in in person about it?

Josh: No, I don't think you got to do it before in person.

Tommy: I feel like in person it becomes like, you need to know if you like these people. Just go— this, this is the thing where you're overbaking it. Go on a— go have coffee. Don't— my suggestion is don't do dinners and shit like that. Like, just go for a coffee, catch up with somebody, go for a walk.

Josh: I felt like a disclaimer was a great middle ground. I was thinking release forms at the start, but that seems too much.

Tommy: God, how many dates have you been on, bro?

Josh: I don't know, but I would definitely in this sort of of nowadays with, with where everything's at, release forms every day.

Tommy: I mean, NDAs. The Kardashians are having people sign NDAs when they come into their house.

Josh: Absolutely. I think it makes sense, mate.

Tommy: Just keep, keep persevering in the dating scene. I think everyone who isn't dating is essentially looking to date, or they might not think that I might meet somebody.

Josh: The thing I'm just not sure on is, so where is the line? What are we doing? How do we, how do we talk to me?

Tommy: He's talking about his feelings, not— he's talking about how he's going, okay, it's really, really great, I've enjoyed this, me asking, are you going to go on another date? Well, it's assumed, right? Like, I think it's assumed, okay, that he's like— if you're dating, that is assuming you were dating different people.

Josh: Any other, any other, any other thoughts?

Tommy: Keep it going, just, just watch loose lips, Jansen, over here.

Josh: Anything else you wanted to say, or cover— it covers everything? Okay, great. All right, well, I think, uh, another date this week, do you think, or Uh, maybe. Okay, have you been speaking to people on DMs?

D: Yeah, a little bit.

Tommy: Oh, that's nice. I'd like that. I like— I'd like you to go on another date, even if it's not for the show, just it's for you. This whole thing is for you because you hadn't ever done any of this and now you are doing this. It's pushing you. Your, your confidence is growing. It's great, it's great. Really proud of you, mate.

Josh: It's all great. I was trying to work out if a UniDen integration— maybe they could go four-wheel driving on a date. Thanks to you, Nadenh. It seems a bit forced.

Tommy: Yeah, definitely a drone involved in that. Yeah, in that date.

Josh: I would love that if you let me at least have a drone. That would be great.

Tommy: We're edging close to 300. Yeah, next week. Next week on Monday, 300th episode.

Josh: We've got nothing planned.

Tommy: Nah, we'll get there though. We'll work it out. Or it'll just be another day. Oh, actually, it's, um, it's a public holiday that day. Ah, in Australia. I don't even know what public holiday.

Josh: Labor Day?

Tommy: Maybe when you run your own business. Yeah, at least just every day is a bloody public holiday. No, it's the opposite.

Josh: I know, that was the joke.

Tommy: Um, it's The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: Uh, we'll see you tomorrow. Hi@thedailytalkshow.com if you want to send us an email. And tomorrow, BK live from the train. If you have a question for BK or if you have thoughts on how we could use this walkie-talkie service going forward. Yeah, I wonder if Bree kept it on. Should we do a final just say Bree, can you hear me? Radio check, please. The final radio cheque of the episode. Radio check, please.

Tommy: It's important.

Josh: So really give her a moment.

Tommy: Give her— yeah. 5, 4, 3.

Josh: I'll do it one more time. Bree, radio check, please. Radio check. This is literally what I had to do as a kid.

Tommy: I told you, you still are a kid.

Josh: The thing is, I would have been like, Mum, turn the thing off.

Tommy: Just get fired up.

Josh: I get real because the thing is I'm in the middle of nowhere in a national park. I'm like, how do I know if it's not working or she doesn't have it on?

Tommy: It's definitely radio check, please.

Josh: Radio check, Breezy, can you hear me, please? This is the final time.

Tommy: 5 seconds. Don't make him look bad. Yeah, no, she's turned off. I'm actually surprised she turned it off.

Josh: Like, she— it's conserving battery. I left the charge— I left the charger with her. So anyway, it's a daily talk show.

Tommy: Catch you tomorrow, guys.

Josh: Bye.