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Brad Blanks is back! We chat about Brad's old radio stunts, what isolation has been like, stories from celebrity interviews, and his high energy!

Show Notes

On today's episode of The Daily Talk Show, we discuss:

–Brad's radio stunts
–Working in isolation
–COVID-19 in New York
–How to secure great guests
–Stories from the red carpet
–Connection and friendship
–Brad's high energy

At a glance

From this episode’s transcript.

  • –Brad Blanks dressed as Elmo in 2007 for a radio stunt, travelling 21 miles through New Jersey by BMX, scooter and jogging, with police escorts changing at each county line.
  • –When an interview goes sideways (e.g. asking Chris Martin a too-personal question), Brad's recovery tactic is to find something funny or entertaining about two minutes later to get back on track.
  • –Securing good celebrity guests is mostly about building trust with publicists over years so they don't see you as chasing gossip or 'gotcha' moments.
  • –Brad has interviewed Ricky Gervais 19 times, a relationship that began around 2005-2006 when few people in the US would interview him.
  • –Staying energised and motivated in red-carpet/interview work is described as a 'self-psyching game' since you never know which minor celebrity might become huge the following week.

Questions this episode answers

What stunt did Brad Blanks do dressed as Elmo?

In 2007, as a sidekick on the Scott and Todd Show on WPLJ, Brad Blanks dressed in an expensive fibreglass-and-hessian Elmo suit and travelled 21 miles through the suburbs of New Jersey — 7 miles on a kid's BMX, 7 miles on a scooter, and 7 miles jogging — crossing four counties with rotating police escorts, and claims he caused about three traffic accidents along the way.

What happened when Brad Blanks asked Chris Martin a personal question?

At a 300-person Coldplay event at New York's China Club, Brad asked Chris Martin's associate Johnny if he'd host a cigar night for Chris's next baby. Chris Martin stopped the event and told Brad that was a personal question he couldn't ask in that environment, leaving Brad mortified and sweating, calling it one of the most painful experiences of his career.

How does Brad Blanks go about securing good interview guests?

Brad says it's largely a publicist's game built on reputation over years — making it clear interviews will be fun, easy and quick, and avoiding any sense that you're chasing gossip or trying to set up the guest, so publicists trust you with their clients.

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Episode TranscriptShow
0:00

Brad: The Daily Talk Show.

0:03

George: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 712, and it is Georgie Boy here. I'm here all week, and I hope everyone has recovered from the 24-hour marathon that we did on Friday. I'm feeling good, and I'm putting together all of the interviews that were recorded that day and releasing them as individual episodes. So, later down the week, you'll get to hear Christian Hull and Steph and Laura, the Kick Girls. Ryan Shelton. It's going to be amazing. To start with, this is Brad Blanks. It was recorded at 8 AM on the Friday, and a really fun chat. We love Brad Blanks, so I hope you enjoy this one.

0:41

Josh: Brad Blanks.

0:42

Tommy: Ah, here he is.

0:43

Josh: Give me a second. I'm just going to turn on your mic, Brad. There you go. How are you, Brad?

0:48

Brad: Look at— oh, great. Look at these legends. Beautiful to be with you fellas. What a thing you're doing, you guys. Just, just inspired by your, your, your magic of what you're going to put out for the next 23 hours. So good luck.

1:01

Tommy: I'm just glad that you said that you'd, uh— what time is it where you are, Brad?

1:06

Brad: Uh, 6, nearly 6 PM. So, you know, we're preparing dinner, you know, all that sort of stuff. But, you know, um, I'll continue to cheque in over the next 23 hours and make sure everyone's upright and, uh, staying spot on and on the ball.

1:20

Josh: So have you done anything outrageous? I mean, Brad, you've, you've, you've been an Elmo once, which— yeah, can you tell that story?

1:29

Brad: Yeah, that was, uh, 2007, and it was one of those deals, you know, look, I was a sidekick on a morning radio show. I know you guys have been there before. Uh, Tommy, I, I, you were a host of a show. I don't know if you were ever a sidekick, Tommy, at all.

1:43

Tommy: Uh, depends who you ask, because we'll both say individually. Yeah.

1:50

Brad: Very good, I like that. Yeah, so every year I'd do one big stunt because I just didn't want to be the stunt guy, you know, but I was the stunt guy. So on the Scott and Todd Show on WPLJ, so they dressed me up as Elmo and it was a beautiful Elmo, probably the most expensive Elmo suit you could get, you know, fibreglass head, hessian suit with redness on the outside. It was Perfect. And they had me do 21 miles through New Jersey, the suburbs of New Jersey. The first 7 miles was where it was on a kid's baby BMX. The next 7 miles were on a scooter. And the final 7 miles I was jogging. And that was my stunt to finish that through. And, and we were— I went through about 4 counties. And with counties, it's like the old Dukes of Hazzard where police aren't allowed to go from county to county. And, um, the police gave me an escort. They, they loved it. The police were all on board, right? But as we get to a county border, that— like, I have a, like, a 4-police-car cavalcade and me in the middle, Elmo dress, yeah. And, um, the police would fan off and the next set of cars would join me, Elmo, as we keep travelling through New Jersey. I think I caused about 3 traffic accidents as well and shut down the whole of North New Jersey during that stunt. But yes, but nothing as wild as a 24-hour broadcast. This is very commendable, fellas.

3:21

Tommy: Well, and I feel that's more physically— more physical exertion than what we're doing. What do you think is more tough, physical or the mental exertion that we're doing?

3:31

Brad: Look, they're both equally important in life. Mental will be tough. Smelling the smells that you all will exude out of your bodies. You're in different locations, so that's good, right? Yeah, we're all split up, I guess, or is there anyone next to each other? Oh, good, good. But yeah, no, there'll be a lot of sweating moments. There'll be interviews that will go sideways and blood will run to all parts of your body. You know, you've been there before, guys.

4:00

Tommy: Well, I mean, I feel like you've been there more than us. What's that?

4:03

Brad: I have.

4:05

Tommy: What's the tip when something's going sideways? What do you do? Especially, I mean, we don't have the likes of Ricky Gervais or Jennifer Aniston on the show today, but close, close.

4:17

Brad: Yes, well, you have— you actually have really good-looking people come on your show, so it's a good-looking show you put out there. But, uh, one, when the— when it really went sideways for me once was I was hosting a live event with about 300 people and it was for Coldplay. So it was Coldplay were on stage, this little intimate club, it's called the China Club, and it had every music executive from every different label, all went, all radio executives in there. And I was, you know, the man in the crowd doing interviews, interviewing them up on stage, trying to get everyone involved. And I asked Johnny, Chris Martin's I shouldn't call him a sidekick, but I said, Johnny, are you going to host a cigar night when Chris has his next baby? Like that. And Chris stopped everything and said, mate, that's a personal question. You can't ask that in this environment. Chris Martin said that to me and the blood just rushed. It actually goes to your bottom first. The blood. I don't know what that means. And things just tightened up and the sweat started pouring down and I was crushed. And someone else quickly took up and they moved on to the next topic. And the only way you can come back is come up with a funny question or something entertaining 2 minutes later. And if you can get that happening, you can get back on track quickly. But even just talking about it now, I'm sweating. I'm perspiring. Probably the most painful experience of my life. Yeah, but it'll happen to you guys today.

5:50

Josh: I already feel— I know that it's going to happen. Brad, when we spoke to you, um, that was sort of early ISO. If you're finding a groove, how are things going?

6:02

Brad: Yeah, it's, um, um, yeah, it's a mental— it's, it's mentally wild, isn't it? Because you first, you know, you guys are ambitious guys, you want to fit a lot into your day. You talked about, I think, you know, Tommy, was it your— is it your missus that's going to do the 5:30 get-ups in the morning? Is that Is that right? So we all want to do all these things and the big depression mounts when you start not getting stuff done in this sort of iso. And you start going, geez, this was going to be my moment to write War and Peace. This is my moment to write the next great novel.

6:37

Josh: When did you realize? Is there a specific moment, Brad, where you're like, ah, fuck, this is not happening?

6:43

Brad: Yeah, when your actual day job really kicks in and my day job's being on radio. And then your day job asks more and they want more and more. And you're like, oh geez, this day job's actually quite hard. And so it sort of exploded the job in terms of Zooming people and doing interviews. And then when you want to do something for yourself, you're kind of like, ah, you know, a bit lazy. I'll go have a beer, early beer, or I'll try and do 20 sit-ups. And you only get to like 15.

7:12

Josh: Oh, sorry, Brad.

7:14

Brad: No, that's great.

7:15

Josh: We're 3 minutes late.

7:16

Tommy: Oh.

7:17

Josh: It's—

7:19

Brad: where are the 23?

7:21

Josh: Hour mark. It took me— I actually had to download that file.

7:24

Brad: That's all.

7:24

Josh: Sorry, sorry to interrupt you halfway through.

7:26

Brad: I thought you were about to bring— I thought you were about to bring Pitbull on.

7:32

Tommy: I don't know what happened, but I think I felt— I felt like what you feel— felt like in that interview. I just sort of zoned out.

7:41

Brad: I was like, oh yeah, yeah, me too.

7:44

Josh: I felt in control, so it actually felt quite good, you know, just We're 3 minutes— we're 4 minutes late on the, on the hour thing. We were trying to do that every single hour.

7:53

Tommy: So, um, that's probably fair, Josh. We probably went about 4 minutes late or a couple of minutes late to the, to the 7 AM start. So yeah, I mean, hey, I've got a question for you guys.

8:03

Brad: Yeah, um, okay, so Mr. 97's become a legend. You know, he's— you know, when Iso comes down and he fires up his Tinder, it's going to be an avalanche.

8:13

Josh: He doesn't—

8:14

Brad: he found a girlfriend.

8:19

Tommy: Oh my God, this is what happened on the, uh, red carpet, what we're seeing.

8:30

Josh: This is great.

8:31

Brad: Yeah, so what happened, Mr. 97? You've been snagged, have you? Yeah, well, I mean, Grace, who, who, uh, listened to the show, we, we started, um, messaging and, um Yes, she's, she's great. She's so much fun.

8:46

Josh: So we're a bit of a boyfriend and girlfriend now.

8:48

Brad: So jeez, Tommy and Josh, look what you're doing! You're changing lives.

8:55

Josh: Yeah, yeah, it was all us.

8:56

Tommy: Really trying, buddy.

8:57

Brad: It was all us. Now your other guy that you've added to the show, yeah, give me a rundown of this fella.

9:06

Josh: Yeah, so there's George. So yeah, George is great. He's, he's an epic editor. He's very good at putting together— he reminds me of, um, you remember like Ryan Shelton would do those great rove segments or whatever. He's just got a great, uh, sense of timing and comedy and all that sort of thing. So yeah, George, he's actually editing right now. He's, he's doing highlights of all the 24 hours which will come out, uh, next week.

9:31

Brad: That's fantastic. So George, was there a video of him sleeping in a like a sleeping bag or somewhere and then you woke him up or something?

9:38

Josh: I don't know.

9:39

Tommy: Oh, the hump day.

9:40

Brad: Oh, that might have been the hump day.

9:40

George: Yeah, the hump day.

9:42

Josh: Replay. Yeah, that was a deep Friday night drinks.

9:45

Brad: Yeah, right. Oh, look, wait a minute, you've got a great cast surrounding there. Mr. 97, George, the young fella from—

9:53

Josh: yeah, yeah, Charles is helping us. It's, it's great. Um, and so you're going to join us in the middle of the night, I think. I can't remember the exact time. What was the time that we—

10:04

Brad: so it's, um, 4 AM. 4 AM, yeah, your time.

10:08

Josh: 4 AM our time as well.

10:10

Brad: Yeah, that's good.

10:11

Josh: Yeah. And then after that we have Hamish Blake, who I believe is joining us on a training bike. I said, hey, we're thinking like it'd be great for us all to go on bikes. The only thing is we haven't been able to organise bikes. I don't know if it's a bit of a stitch-up if he rocks up in Lycra and sort of ready for a ride on camera.

10:31

Brad: But, um, what time do you have it, Hamish?

10:33

Josh: 4:40. So you're right. So, so we— you can do that, you can do the handover, you can do the— yeah, do the high five.

10:41

Brad: Oh, that'll be wonderful.

10:43

Josh: Have you been to Manhattan at all since all—

10:45

Brad: like, um, since we last spoke? No, I haven't. No, that's, that's— yeah, it's crazy. Now I got— I heard from a friend of mine who was in the epicentre of all that Queens disaster that we spoke about with the Elmhurst Hospital, you know, just a couple of miles out of Manhattan. And, uh, he said he lost a lot of people in the neighborhood, which is very sad. But, and he, his words were, it was the epicentre of it all. And, uh, but that hospital now is, is relatively calm. So unfortunately a lot of people passed, but they got over that, they've got over that hump. But yeah, you know, New York's still a, you know, a ghost town. Mm-hmm.

11:23

Josh: Are you guys getting back to—

11:25

Brad: are things opening and shit now, or Out in Long Island, there's movement, but still, obviously, we want restaurants and bars, but that's never going to happen. But that's not going to happen. And we're out near a beach, and so that's sort of a festive area. Who knows what summer is going to bring? It won't be like previous summers, obviously. So, yeah, we're not sure.

11:53

Tommy: Where did you take us for lunch, Brad, when we were in New York City? We went somewhere uptown, was it?

12:00

Brad: Yeah, you like it.

12:01

Tommy: It's a nice lunch place, a lot of seats.

12:04

Brad: I don't know if that helps. Did we go to the coffee shop? This is the coffee shop.

12:10

Tommy: I mean, it seems quite fancy. I mean, I was like, oh yeah, this joint, this is— this looks fancy. I was thinking like, was it the following day? It was the day.

12:19

Josh: Have you got it in your calendar? Do you have sort of a calendar, Bradville?

12:22

Brad: Yeah, I've got to find that.

12:23

Josh: Oh really?

12:24

Brad: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna look that up. But yeah, keep—

12:26

Tommy: sorry, Tom, but I feel like you just sort of waltzed in. It was like lunchtime. It was just— it was a real New York experience. I felt like an Aussie dude had really sort of just lent in. I mean, you are a New Yorker. You've been there for what, nearly 20 years or something? Yeah, 20 years.

12:42

Brad: Yeah, '01, October '01.

12:44

Tommy: But the— seeing the people out in New York, like, just lunchtime at these busy restaurants, like I feel like for it to switch back to that straight away is going to be super hard, don't you think?

12:55

Brad: Yeah, you've nailed it. No, no, it's super hard. Like, to unpack this is craziness because you sit— I've gone to New York because I want to be around the people, the excitement, the buzz, everything, you know, you read about. Like, I was, you know, Woody Allen fan and Seinfeld fan, and then I want to be there and everything I'd love that drove me to get there. And then I get there and I sort of live like a normal person, so I'm living like Woody Allen, but that's probably not a good example to live by. But anyway, that's a whole other story. But it's a city where storeys are developing every day in your life of people you're bumping into. And it's all about bumping into or crashing into people. Is that crashing into effect that makes it such a glorious place to live in going to be there? And I have 3 children. We've stayed in the city. We have a small apartment there that we love. We have a great, great building and a good area. And you're like, what's the— are we at a stage where we think we have to move out? And that's— we haven't started asking those questions, but it's along those lines. Yeah.

14:06

Tommy: Well, Brad, your wife's from London, isn't she? Or England, isn't she?

14:10

Brad: Yeah, England. That's right. Yep.

14:12

Tommy: And so then you're an Aussie. What accent do your kids have? Three kids that have grown up in New York.

14:18

Brad: Remember when Elle Macpherson got that, uh, that— what do they call it? The transatlantic accent, um, I think.

14:25

Josh: It's a bit international, international school sort of thing.

14:28

Brad: Yeah, it's all screwed up, you know. Um, but the big ones were Elle Macpherson, Kylie Minogue, all got those weird accents, and, uh, they have that. But then, then they, um, they say Manhattan like that, which is Funny, because we live on the east side of Manhattan, and that is a very long island. It's really interesting how you can live on one side of a skinny, skinny island, and they sound like Lindsay Lohan, who grew up in the middle of Long Island. So I always say to them, "Don't you sound like Lindsay Lohan?" Coming from me, obviously, the broadest country accent you can have. But anyway, but yeah, weird accents for my kids.

15:12

Josh: How do you— like, Brad, you've got great access to people, like you had Ricky Gervais or whatever, you've had the Tiger King guy. Do you have any tips for securing great guests?

15:24

Brad: Great, yes. Good, good question. And as I said before, my day job's exploded. Zoom has been good for me. Yeah. You know, people are wanting to chat and you guys are probably finding that. But secure, like, if you're dealing with a publicist or their team, I always say it's going to be fun, it's going to be easy, and it'll be quick. You can save all the dirty jokes surrounding the setup I gave you then. It's not how you want to promote yourself when you're in a nightclub. Mr. 97, don't say those things.

15:59

Tommy: He doesn't go to nightclubs. You're safe.

16:02

Brad: At least he's fun. At least he's fun. Yeah. Um, yeah, sorry. No, but you, you want to put the— look, it's all a publicist game, right? In terms of what I'm chasing, you know, I, uh, like, um, and you've gotta— and then it's their reputation with their client. They're being paid by their client to get the right people talking to them. So, um, and but it's, it's, it's over years of, you know, hopefully coming across as that you're not into gossip and you're not trying to set them up, or you're just trying to have a bit of fun. And this environment has really nailed that down. And look, my interviews have always come from doing phoners, you know, the old school phoner for radio, and then, you know, the quick-fire stuff on red carpets, because I do— I love that, you know, explosive minute and a half of the first 30 seconds of a celebrity you know, going, who the hell is this animal? You know, this semi-bald, huge, sweaty guy.

17:01

Josh: Have they ever talked for a long time? Have you ever had one where it's like you were going in for the fun, quick and easy, and it turned into a 2-hour sort of special?

17:10

Brad: But well, on a red carpet, this, this happened early. It was like 2003 or the end of '02. I think it was the red carpet for Analyze That, which was the sequel to Analyze This with Billy Crystal and Robert De Niro. And I was always— I called, you know, Brad Blanks at the arse end of the red carpet. I was a radio guy and I was the only radio guy there and I didn't have a camera. And I'm at the end with my little microphone and a mini disc recorder. They'll explain that to you later, Mr. 97, what a mini disc recorder is. Okay, great. And I'd stand there and Billy Crystal came on. It was a freezing cold night. And everyone was wrapping up. That's where I was, where all the other crews are wrapping up and you're the last one standing there. And he stopped and talked. And I love Billy Crystal, but he was pissed off that he had to talk to me. I'm kind of like, well, you're pissed off, so I don't really want to talk to you. I love you, but you're being a prick. And we're chatting— sorry, language. Sorry.

18:11

Josh: I'm fine.

18:12

Brad: You're right. All right, good. Thank you. And I'm interviewing him. But the interview kept on going. I'm like, and he wasn't being good. It wasn't like a loving interview. I mean, it was freezing cold. We're all wrapped up. It's like, it's a December night, you know, and in New York, and I'm interviewing him and the interview just wouldn't stop. And I'm like, so were you waiting for a cue from him?

18:32

Josh: Like, surely you can just say, thanks so much, that was great, we've got everything we need.

18:35

Brad: Yeah, but the other side of me is like, this is Billy Crystal, he's talking, but he's not talking nice. Loving stuff. So that was always an interview that just didn't naturally end, even though it probably should have. But look, I spend my whole career built around interviewing people that don't really want to be interviewed by me. And hopefully, and then seeing their pupils open up, expand with a little bit of happiness at about the 40-second mark. And as you can see on my YouTube, page, you'll see them when they finally go, "Ah, this guy's actually alright," and then, "This guy's not that bad. He looks like a doofus, but we'll continue chatting to him. Now we know what's going on." But look, the whole game's changed again in interviews. You got the likes of talk show hosts now like Fallon and Corden. They do the more personal style of interview now. Like Carpool Karaoke. I look at that and I say, well, Aussies and English talk show presenters have been doing that style of interview, what Corden does, for 30 years. It's just the Aussie and English personality. It's just that Corden managed to package that up and put it in a car, you know, that worked fantastically, don't get me wrong. But that style of personality is very different to what happens in interviews in the United States.

20:04

Tommy: Have you got a go-to question, Brad? Just if you— like, if I put you in front of a celebrant now, you don't know who they are, you just open your eyes and you have to ask something. What do you, what do you start with other than, uh, yeah, yeah, start, start, um, yeah, inspirational stuff, isn't it?

20:22

Brad: This all is. And that'll bamboozle them. How can you knock the word inspiration? Oh yeah. And by the time they get to that, then another thought will come in my head. But my go-to question is probably at the end, getting to the end, where I'm like, geez, I've got to finish on an up. I've got to finish on a laugh. I've got to finish on something upbeat, positive. I've got to get a laugh here. I've got to get something because this interview is going badly at the moment. And I always ask them to give me advice. 85% of the time it works. You know, do you have any advice for me, a 6-foot-5 goofy, semi-balding sweaty guy? And that will get something big, hopefully, you know, but there's still sometimes there's dead fishes. I interviewed last year, and I don't want to quickly relate that to them being dead fishes because I love these two ladies, Jennifer Aniston and Reese Witherspoon. It was the afternoon of a junket, it was for The Morning Show. I go in there, all the celebrities, all the actors in a part of that show were on high alert because it's, you know, all about, you know, sexual harassment in the workplace. And it just come off the Harvey Weinstein and the Ronan Farrow book and it all been happened in, um, Matt Lauer, you know, with the Today Show. And it was all within 5 days of each other, all those storeys sort of re-bubbling up. And I go into the junket, the interview with them, and I just want to have a bit of fun. I'm not going in there to talk about, you know, like the sexual harassment or getting, you know, in trouble in the workplace and all this. And they were— it was like a legal interview. It was like I was a lawyer. I was like Saul in Better Call Saul. I was like upbeat, pumped, talking to them, want to have fun with Jennifer Aniston and Rhys, and they were just giving me cold Cold stuff. And I tried— if you see that interview, I am sweating like the Coldplay storey I told you before. I am melting down in the interview and I'm throwing everything I can just to get some laughs, and they just weren't going.

22:34

Josh: How many times have you had Ricky Gervais? How many times have you spoke to him?

22:39

Brad: Yeah, I think I'm up to 19 times. 19 times.

22:44

Josh: And so at that point Like, what's the relationship? Are you like, hey mate, are we friends now? Do you want to hang out? Do you want to have a beer?

22:52

Brad: Yes, that's it. I'd love to hang out with you. Look, I think we're professional mates, I guess. I'm far from a professional, don't worry.

23:02

Josh: Your shirt's nice. You've got a very professional shirt for a—

23:05

Brad: Yeah, I've just put this on. Yeah, I've got the cupboard next door with a 4 clothes hangers of shirts and I've been interchanging for the last 7 weeks. I have to bloody wash this one because I'm sweating profusely just about excitement of talking to you guys. But Gervais, I'd love to, you know, it'd be great to, you know, have a few beers and talk. But look, I think he's a bit of a recluse. I think he's just a chilled sort of guy and, you know, and he's been interesting to watch and it was interesting to talk to him during this whole period. I enjoyed his He did a 1 PM, or 6 PM British time, I think it was 6 PM, where he'd do a stream on Twitter. And it was good getting an insight into his life. And he seems pretty relaxed and does a bit of writing. He binge watches so much television. And in this period, you'd think everyone's binging. I'm not bingeing enough. I need to binge more. I can't actually find time to binge. But yeah. Yeah, anyway, he's a good guy and he's been very good to me. And but it started in the early days when no one would interview him in the United States and I'd be the only one interviewing Ricky. And that was in like 2005, 2006. So he'd have like his first comedy special and HBO would call me in to interview him. And we'd do these like 25-minute sessions on a couch and I'd just have a mate of mine holding a little camera, and we do these interviews, and they're great fun. And it's built a fun relationship, which is great.

24:42

Tommy: Brad, you're pretty high energy. I think it's definitely something I noticed when I met you. And every time I've spoken to you or seen you since, still high energy. I guess still, you definitely would have to have— unless you're a robot, take your head off now, let's see your brain if it's real. No, but have you, um, what do you do when you get a bit low energy and you're on a red carpet? Because it is work. Sometimes you don't want to have to work. No, I gotta find something. What do you do?

25:11

Brad: Yeah, no, no, great question. That happens. It happens a lot. It more happens like we're in this game, right, where it's only up to you. And in your, like, for you, Josh, and Tommy, you get to bounce it off each other. I maybe get to talk to some people at the radio station that I work at, or mate, more mates that aren't even in it. But you're constantly— you're playing with yourselves where you're at. So you can never— I've found you can never get ahead of yourself because you don't know where you are in what your career is or your ambition. You just got to wake up every day and sort of chase that, that, that thing you're never going to catch. And, and it's hard when you— no one tells you you're never going to catch it, but you've got to keep on driving. So an example of that would be to go to a red carpet where I don't know if I'm going to get anyone and I've got to stand there and you're kind of competing against, you know, people standing next to you on either side. And, and yeah, like, but I've gone to red carpets where I've been totally flat going, what am I even doing here? And, and keeping myself open-minded enough where I might not get the star of, of the movie and they might just brush me and walk straight by, but I'll get some reality star from a show that hasn't broken yet and it breaks the following week and that show's huge. Yeah, I've turned up just and I've done this goofy interview where I really don't know anything about this person and we've turned it into 2 minutes of gold. Just, you know, and I'm flat leading into that and I have something. So it proves that you've just got to keep turning up even when you're not flat and even if you think you're not going that well, you know, you're not getting ahead or you're not improving or whatever, you just got to, you know, I don't know. I mean, it's a psyching game, a self-psyching game to keep on pushing.

26:59

Josh: And a bit of a deep one to end on. What do you dream about? What do you dream of? What do you think? Not as in like when you go to sleep, but what do you— when you daydream, when you think about the future, where do you go?

27:12

Brad: Yeah, it's really good because I think as of, you know, you're married, kids, you know, life's worked out good in that regard, but you want to keep on improving in your jobs or, you know, and what you're our jobs are our passions in a way and what we're doing. And so you sit there and go, well, what's the perfect scenario? And maybe that is the issue that I haven't figured that part. What is the perfect scenario? What is perfect anyway? And from a dreaming point of view is I still love the moment of having a great chat. And like right now, I'm loving talking to you guys. We became friends and I love that moment of having a connection with someone that can create that sort of explosiveness. And that just gets back to, you know, having a beer in the pub, you know, with a, you know, as an 18-year-old in Cobram, and I'm sitting there talking to the 76-year-old guy, and he used to play full forward for Cobram, and we chat about how he was a good footballer. And that feeling then is the same feeling I enjoy today when I interview people.

28:17

Josh: Yeah, I think like it doesn't even matter who it is Whoever's met you, they always mention your energy because Pete Shepherd, a mate of mine who you caught up with, he's the head coach at Old MBA, Seth Godin's sort of program, and you caught up with Pete and Pete described it as extremely high energy and I think you'd had about 6 coffees.

28:45

Brad: Oh yeah, I was off my head that day, Tommy. You should have seen me. I felt bad. I hope he didn't think I was running to the toilet and doing something bad. No, no. I was jacked. What had happened to me is I'd stopped drinking, and I think I got him about 3 weeks into my not drinking, and I was running. I was training for the New York Marathon, so I was going through this whole stage. I'm jacked, and the poor guy got me at 100 miles an hour, and I was excited to meet him, and I'm a fan of Seth Godin's you guys, and I wanted to hear everything about that. But the stuff going on in my head to him— we were in a diner and we didn't eat anything. The waitress was so pissed off.

29:29

Josh: And you were yelling a bit when you were talking?

29:33

Brad: Yes, I was yelling, and I had to catch up. Mate, I'm sorry. And what a great guy he is. He's like, no, no, bring it on, keep going. And he was encouraging me. He was encouraging me. The Human Periscope, right?

29:45

George: That's exactly his name.

29:46

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

29:47

Brad: Bloody good bloke. And he was due to come over. He emailed me a few months ago and said, I'll be in New York in April. And I was excited again. And I was hoping to have a few beers with him, which hopefully would be a more subdued version than a fat guy training for a marathon that had lost about 10 kilogrammes and was drinking. Yeah, it was a massive—

30:08

Josh: He loved it. He was like, it was a highlight of his New York. Like, you know, I think that that's what makes trips, right?

30:13

Brad: Meeting people and—

30:15

Josh: So good. You know, you'd rather be memorable than, you know, boring.

30:21

Brad: Next time I'll try and act like a straight man. I see Big Pete again. But, well, I hope you guys are fine. I hope I've been like a fluffer.

30:32

Josh: Oh, mate, you've been great.

30:33

Tommy: I'm fired up.

30:34

Brad: Definitely. Yeah, good, good, good. Well, I commend what you're doing, and I know you're going to have fantastic guests, and it's wonderful. And say hello to George as well. Um, you know, all the better. Look forward to meeting him. And Mr. 97, you're a champion. And the young bloke, uh, Charles, yeah, you'll get Charles.

30:52

Josh: I'll jump you off to Charles. He's in the— he's in the green— we've set up a virtual green room.

30:57

Tommy: So at the end, it did definitely come through to YouTube, just PS, because I did go to YouTube. It did a shot on, um, uh, CP from Quad Lock. He took a photo of the screen. He was just loving it. Oh really? I definitely saw Charles there.

31:11

Josh: Oh, that's interesting.

31:13

Tommy: Unless that was Charles. Unless it was Charles taking a photo of his own screen.

31:16

Josh: I know, that could have been. Yeah, anyway, I've pushed it across anyway, so there we go.

31:20

Tommy: Um, Brad, thanks, mate. And I'm looking forward to, um, can you be nice to us when you come back on in like 20 hours or something? Can you?

31:28

Brad: Yeah, it'd be very nice.

31:30

Josh: Just pump us up.

31:30

Tommy: Can you interview us? It'll be weird.

31:32

Brad: It will get real fucking weird. Yeah, why don't I— I'll interview you guys. All right, we'll ask you about— we'll do a bit of news because it'll be 2 PM. Okay, yeah, a bit of New York news, what's going on in the world, you know, what's happened. And, um, be a good time Friday afternoon. We'll do a stock market report, something like that. I'll be, I'll be talking.

31:52

Tommy: Don't worry about that, mate.

31:54

Brad: Yeah, no, I'm pumped, pumped, guys. Well, uh, wonderful. Good luck, go get it.

31:57

Josh: Awesome.

31:58

Tommy: Thanks, buddy.

31:58

Brad: Thanks, Brad.

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