Josh Deleted His Social Media

Tommy: Wait a minute! Frostface! The Daily Talk Show, a conversation sometimes worth recording with Josh Janson and Tommy Jensen.

Josh: Today, The Talk Show, episode 125.

Tommy: What the hell?

Josh: Happy Monday!

Tommy: That doesn't help the fact that you said 125.

Josh: 225. I thought it was the excitement level you didn't like.

Tommy: No, no, the excitement level's great. Even Mr. 97 trolled you on, on your mistake, but that's why he's here. He's got a computer in front of him. Yeah, he's got the knowledge of someone who has an ATAR of 97, and he's, he's got the looks of an 18-year-old.

Josh: I'm still coming off from that.

Tommy: I said that. Yes, what does an 18-year-old look like? Pubescent, pimply, and lacking in direction.

Mason: Great way to paint a picture.

Tommy: Exactly, lacking in direction, get a pimple on your forehead He doesn't go, "Oh, that little thing." Guys, I'm projecting. I had the worst pimples of all time when I was a teenager. So I'm trying to bring someone down.

Josh: You had one. It's kind of gone down a lot. You had it right on your cheek.

Tommy: All right.

Josh: Napoleon. Napoleon? What's that? I don't understand that reference. You know that makeup guy? Ah, Pertus. Napoleon Pertus. Coming down from Friday.

Tommy: Yeah, well, it was a great Fat Fridays. We've gone through the weekend. Something I said to you this morning, Mason, how'd you go voting? And yeah, and what did you say?

Mason: Yeah, I'm not an Aussie citizen, so didn't have to vote.

Tommy: Yeah, so he missed out on the anxiety that is running the gauntlet at a voting booth.

Josh: What's it— so you, uh, you, you're born in New Zealand?

Mason: Yeah, born in Auckland.

Josh: Okay, what's the, uh, like when you're growing up, did you feel like Not being a citizen, do you actually feel different? Do you feel as a kid to everyone else?

Mason: No, no way. Like, there's no noticeable differences. Like, the visa that we have just allows us to live here permanently and work here permanently. There's no negatives in terms of like, it just gets to when it gets to like tax stuff, then it's a bit different.

Tommy: And also your passport, you don't have an Australian passport?

Mason: Not got a Kiwi passport.

Tommy: Okay, so here's the problem. That my wife faced because Amy, she was born in New Zealand. Her parents somehow thought that it was a great idea to just go over there to attend some conference. I'm sure there was some, yeah, they went over there and had the baby there and then came home with a New Zealand citizen or like a baby that had a New Zealand passport.

Josh: Were they religious?

Tommy: Yeah, Amy's mom and dad.

Josh: Yeah. Yeah. Like I wonder if it's got something to do with that, like just spreading the—

Tommy: No, I think they were at some kind of church conference. I could be wrong, I might be totally missing this. I don't think they were over there just to, um, you know, they didn't have a McDonald's franchise. No, they didn't have that, but they went over for something and they came back with a child that they clearly knew because Amy's mum would have been very pregnant. But here's the thing, we only just realised this because Amy's only just got an Australian passport So she would always come back in and just go through the motions coming back into the country, but we got pulled aside and they said, have you got a visa? And here's the thing, if you have a, even though you're, are you a citizen of Australia?

Mason: No.

Tommy: Okay, so even though you live in Australia and you're not trying to obtain a visa every time that you, like you've got one to live here, obviously.

Mason: Yeah, indefinitely.

Tommy: Yeah, indefinitely. Yeah. They pulled us aside and they said, you need to go through a separate area in customs because you're seen as someone visiting this country because you have a New Zealand passport.

Mason: That's crazy.

Tommy: And so it can be an absolute pain in the ass. And I kept on saying, let's get Amy, get a new passport, get the Australian one. And she was like, no, it's prettier, it's fucking—

Josh: Was that really the rationale?

Mason: It does look better, to be fair. It's a silver fern, it looks pretty cool.

Tommy: It does look cool. But we nearly came unstuck when we came back from New Zealand, because here's the thing, if Amy went back to New Zealand or went to New Zealand on a holiday, is she coming back to the country or is she returning as a visitor to this country?

Josh: I'm surprised. I don't know the answer.

Tommy: It was really confusing. She has to come in as a visitor. So, she— I think that's the whole thing. Really?

Josh: Even though she's an Australian citizen?

Tommy: Yes.

Josh: Because of the passport. Passport. Yeah.

Tommy: So, there's another layer of complication.

Josh: But I thought Australians and New Zealanders go through the same area anyway.

Tommy: Well, part of the Commonwealth.

Josh: But you know how they've got like the smart passport?

Mason: Yeah, the automatic, the facial recognition ones.

Josh: Yeah.

Mason: Which I can go through those.

Josh: Which never fucking works for me. Every single time I've tried the— Maybe it's because I've lost—

Mason: It's the neckbeard.

Josh: Well, maybe because I've lost— Yeah, they think that I'm wearing some sort of— Some form of like pillow, but the, like a neck pillow.

Tommy: No, but the glasses, definitely.

Josh: No, I take them off. I reckon it's the weight loss.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Because I'm guessing they're looking at the shape of my face previously.

Tommy: Yeah, you've got an old photo, don't you?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: For your passport. Yeah, you show me that.

Josh: Get a new one.

Tommy: Actually, they're $500.

Josh: Well, 2020 is when I run out. I had the goal of by the time my passport expired, I wanted to have have filled every page of my passport.

Tommy: And how's that going?

Josh: Well, I think I'm over halfway, three-quarters of the way.

Tommy: Yeah, John Safran, when I personal trained him, he's done so much travelling with all the shows he's been on. He was telling me he like kept them as souvenirs, lost them. He lost like two passports that had been filled with all the destinations he'd been to.

Josh: I have an American mate who actually got an insert, I think, like you can get I don't know if this is an Australian thing as well, but in the US you can get an extra insert so you can hold more.

Tommy: Oh, you had a reno?

Josh: Yeah, it's like a real, it's like super fat.

Tommy: We're getting extensions.

Josh: Yes.

Tommy: We're getting extensions, guys.

Josh: Susie Wilkes, come on in. The, no, but there's something on that passport thing that I was—

Tommy: You think about that, Mr. 97. I want you to type in a name for me and I want you to pull up what you can find out about this bloke. All right, and it's okay, you're gonna say their last name? Yeah, yeah, this is 100% okay. Okay, um, so his name is—

Mason: yep—

Tommy: Dean, D-E-N-E. Okay, Broadbelt, B-R-O-A-D-B-E-L-T. So Broadbelt.

Mason: Yeah, got him.

Tommy: Find out what you can about him, and I want you to give a bit of a summary.

Josh: Um, well, while he does that, my thought on the passport thing Europe's annoying because they don't stamp your passport if you're in the European Union and you're just going from place to place.

Tommy: Ah, it's all international flights they need.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Oh, that's when you get stamped into the country. So, you're getting stamped into Europe and then you're just cruising around Europe.

Josh: Yeah, so that was annoying.

Tommy: On a boat. Croatia.

Josh: Love it.

Tommy: I'm a vlogger.

Josh: Anything else?

Tommy: Nothing else. I did feel for you. And think about you over the weekend when I did go to the polling booth to put in my local member vote. Because so I— we're idiots, we didn't do it early and we left it to the Saturday, the closing day.

Josh: Forced admin.

Tommy: Yeah, it is 100% forced admin. It was an hour out of my life. It was raining and I had a child with me and my wife and we're all, you know, we're trying to get— just do what— do our best to get in to put our vote in. Here's, here's a thing. I could have paid someone to go and do it for me. They don't cheque your ID.

Josh: No.

Tommy: What's with that?

Josh: I'm sure it's probably illegal to do that.

Tommy: So then one of my other thoughts was, what if they just didn't, didn't write it off properly? So you, you, you're saying that I'm a liar?

Josh: Well, they are.

Tommy: If I said that I went but I didn't go Ah, yeah. So if you just like, no, I actually went.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And you actually just went to a cafe close by to have a coffee and you were in the area.

Josh: Did you go to the absentee section or were you? No, I was in the official.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Like your local area.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Conspiracy Jimmy, he's still within the, he went to the voting booth where he grew up, which clearly just states that he hasn't changed his fucking address ever. So it's still probably all going to, He's a house where he grew up. I did that for so many years. I didn't get off, like I didn't change my address. I had it all going to my parents' joint.

Josh: It's that I wanna be the guy that, I wanna be the guy that is organised enough to get his own Medicare card that doesn't have his whole family on it.

Tommy: I will back up you for not being that guy. And I'll say that the only reason I've become that guy is because I've got a child. It forces your hand on a lot of things. So Bodie, so Amy Bodie and I have our own family Medicare card. It's cute.

Josh: I don't think I've been to the doctor, like I've probably been other than my ingrown toenail thing, which I'm still 50 bucks.

Tommy: Yeah, no one's sending that. It's disgusting.

Josh: What it was was interesting.

Tommy: No, you don't even know, just leave that out. It was just, it was feral.

Mason: Filthy, it's filthy. Yeah, it's feral. I was listening to it on the tram, it was just—

Tommy: It's disgusting.

Mason: No, I wasn't painting a good picture.

Tommy: Would we have cut through with 18-year-olds?

Mason: Yeah, maybe not.

Tommy: Yeah, okay, we're not— don't go there. Listen back to other episodes.

Josh: Well, because I was going to front-foot it, pun intended, and say, um, that's— say thanks, um, that we could include it in the title of the show.

Tommy: You said, people will not listen, Josh. And that wasn't Josh's mum. Yeah, it was actually— I've become Josh's mum. That's the accent. But how did you deal with the Because basically there's all these people trying to get your last moment, um, I guess, vote by standing out in the cold handing out pamphlets saying, 'Vote for the Greens, vote for Labor.' We should reset.

Josh: What we're talking about here is the state of Victoria had a state election over the weekend. For anyone who is not in Victoria, they all feel the same.

Tommy: If you've ever voted and you've been in Australia, I don't know what the state is like in the US, but you go and you're just hounded by these people. It is the closest thing to walking down a street and seeing a bunch of tin rattlers, not the good kind, the ones from UNICEF, like they can't even take donations. Like sometimes I just, take my money. Like we can't accept donations.

Josh: We can only take your credit card and we need, yeah, they're working hard to pay.

Tommy: Yeah, 10 minutes of your time. That's basically what they say. And that anxiety where you're just like, I'm crossing the fence. Fucking road to ignore them. Oh, there's one over the other side. Put your head down, walk straight through, act like you're on the phone. So that's the feeling heightened because there's all these people with like invested interest in taking your time to give you something. And so if you actually just said yes to all of them, you'd walk out with like 20 leaflets.

Josh: But you don't wanna say yes to the wrong, like you don't wanna say, take a piece of paper and it turns out it's like the paedophiles party. You know, like you've gotta be careful in the sense of, Do you know what I mean? Like, I know what you mean, because then people will see that maybe it's like, oh, he's taking that because that's how he's going to vote.

Tommy: Yeah, and it's bizarre. And so I hate the— I hated the whole experience, and I ignored the thing. Amy is the one who was the friendly one. I just opted out, and I just thought it was just minding my own business, and I bit my tongue. Oh, I actually got in an argument last year, or the other year, with One of them, one of the local members in St Kilda. That's right. I was so pissed off. My fucking post box says no junk mail. What the fuck does that mean? Yeah, I think everyone knows what it means. I tell you who doesn't know who it means— the member for St Kilda and his fucking bullshit post-it things that are in my, in my box that clearly says no junk mail. And so I see, I see I can't remember what I said. I said something to him when I saw— I was like, oh, you're the bloke that put mail in my, in my box that said no junk mail. I know your face. And he was like, oh well. And I said something, I can't remember what it was, but I just got in this—

Josh: yeah, listen here, fuckhead, just go grab him by the throat.

Tommy: You ever disrespect my junk mail sign? But I was like, that's a no for me, bro, when you put mail Like he's probably paid some business. Yeah, it is interesting. Like I'm turned off businesses that put their mail into my no junk mail space.

Josh: When I was in Abbotsford in the apartment block, I was leaving. I'm very funny about security, like always looking out for sus things. Anyway, I was leaving our apartment block and as I was walking out, I saw a guy in a suit with a bunch of— this was like a year ago— with like a handful of leaflet-y type things, like he was gonna be doing some sort of letter drop.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And so—

Tommy: Did you mention that you need that security, like to get into that spot anyway?

Josh: Yeah, you do need, yeah. To get to the letterbox, you need like a swipey. Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: So, you're suss seeing this bloke like—

Josh: Yeah, so he was waiting at it and I did like a real, as I was walking out, I sort of do this very subtle thing where I pull the door closed as I'm walking, but he still managed to grab the door. Jesus. I said, excuse me, can I help you? T-1000. Yeah, I said, excuse me, can I help you? And he said it was a real estate agent trying to do a drop. He said, oh no, so they've said I can do it. I said, well, why don't you have a key? You just got to wait until people leave. And I had to go somewhere. I was like, I can't be fucked arguing with this guy.

Tommy: Well, he fucked his argument up because it might—

Josh: yeah, if you had permission, you wouldn't have to wait for someone to give you a swipe. Yeah. Which they're never gonna do. Who offers that as a service? Hey, I wanna put junk mail in.

Mason: Here's your swiper, yeah.

Josh: Here's your swiper. Did you ever do newspaper drops as a kid?

Tommy: Yeah, yeah. I actually did a bit of a mission 'cause I had Bodhi yesterday and I—

Josh: Are you doing it on the side now?

Tommy: I had Bodhi, no, no, no, I'll get there. I had Bodhi and I, we were cruising just around the car. We were just doing a little mission, give mum some rest. And so I kind of just did this old circuit of places that I would frequent as a young kid around my old neighborhood, around Brighton and Gardenvale. We're just driving around. I don't know, I thought it was like, Bodhi doesn't even know what's happening. He's just, you know, clapping in the back for nothing. He wants to listen to Emma. But we drove down this little side street.

Josh: Who the fuck's Emma?

Tommy: Emma Wiggle.

Mason: That's my question as well.

Josh: Emma Wiggle. Emma the Wiggle.

Tommy: Yeah, I'm too in it.

Josh: Sorry, guys.

Tommy: Emma is the Yellow Wiggle.

Mason: Anyway.

Tommy: So I drove down this like side alleyway in Ganva and it brought back all these memories of when I used to do a paper round. So I was young, I was like maybe grade 6 or yeah, grade 6, maybe 5. I'd get up at like 4:30 AM.

Josh: It's crazy.

Tommy: 5:00 AM. Conspiracy Jimmy did it too. And we would like hoon down to the—

Josh: On your bike?

Tommy: Hoon down on the bike. So it was probably maybe 8-minute ride, 9-minute ride and get to And I just remember the smell. If you've ever been to a place that wraps newspapers, it smells like oil. No, it smells like oil. So it's not where they print it, it's where they roll it into the thing that you then throw. So, but it has this really smell of oil and plastic, like lots of industrial Glad Wrap. That's what it smells like. And it's all a bit hot 'cause it's been run through this machine.

Josh: Oh, that sounds fun.

Tommy: And so I'll load up and I just, It's such a good thing to do as a kid, but it's bizarre. Like I think about, it's probably pretty, not dangerous, but you're so young riding around getting paid fuck all. I remember my bike tipped over on my first one and it was so heavy to get back up. And I remember just crying a bit. I guess that's what builds resilience.

Josh: I mean, I guess the 2018 version is kids knocking. Would you like a subscription? For like fucking digital subscription.

Tommy: Yeah, totally.

Josh: For the iPad. I mean, have you, does your family still get the paper sent? Do you know if your parents—

Tommy: No, we never got it.

Josh: Really?

Tommy: As a family, did you?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: I always saw it as a bit of a luxury.

Josh: Like did you used to get the soft drinks delivered?

Tommy: No.

Josh: Yeah, we got that too.

Tommy: Really?

Mason: Is that a thing?

Josh: Yeah, you'd get like glass bottles of like soft drink and you'd put it out and they'll then refill.

Mason: Oh, so it's like the milk thing.

Josh: Yeah, it's like milk for bogans. So funny.

Tommy: What flavour was your favorite?

Josh: I don't know, but they're all like fake Coca-Cola, like, you know, cola and shit like that.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, it's not bad, but it's full of sugar actually.

Josh: It's completely bad. It's so bad. It's completely wrong. So how did you come down from the Easies? You've got an Easies t-shirt on.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, I haven't fucking stopped partying, mate. I've been so high. No, last Friday was great. I think it just propelled me into a weekend of eating shit. Yeah, that's— it's opening the door. That's— this could be the problem with Fat Fridays, is that it opens the door to Fat Friday, Saturday, Sunday, maybe Monday. Maybe blowout Monday because you don't give a shit anymore.

Josh: Maybe that could be a benchmark, blowout Monday.

Tommy: Did you blow out? Did you open the door Friday? I mean, we only had a burger, but then later that night I think I had some bullshit.

Josh: No, I was proud of myself because on Sunday we went up to Healesville, not Sanctuary, but just Healesville, you know, like the—

Tommy: It's a nice area up in the hills.

Josh: Yeah, and went to a pub and they had a, I was just gonna get a chicken parma and classic JJ style asked Bri, "Hey, can you go up? Do you wanna go up and order?" And then she said, she came back to me and said, "Oh, they've actually got a special, which is like a schnitzel with some chilli bean type of thing and sour cream." Which is right up my alley. I said, "Yes." Now, I've got a question for you guys. When you hear a special, what makes something a special at a restaurant? Cheap.

Tommy: So, there's two things.

Mason: Frequency.

Tommy: Two things?

Josh: Yeah, what's the frequency one?

Mason: Like a special is like a one a day a week. That sort of thing, like a Friday special.

Tommy: So yeah, a special, two things, I think sometimes cost if there's a special. So you get, there's lots of value being delivered, but then something that's not on the menu often. So it's like—

Josh: Well, I think it ticked that frequency box, not the cost box. 'Cause I said that to Bree, I was like, oh, we were talking about it afterwards or whatever. And the chicken parma was $25. And she said, oh, yours was $29.

Tommy: Yeah, see that's ridiculous.

Mason: $25 for a chicken parma?

Josh: Yeah, well, no, it's a schnitzel with chilli beans and sour cream.

Tommy: A special at a restaurant can sometimes be expensive. Pubs, the specials are usually like special parma— there's a parma night that's a special. Yeah, at Village Bell near me, awesome, $15.

Josh: That's unbelievable, good value. Yeah, but the, the thing that, um, I was really proud of myself with, it was fucking huge and I was loving it. If you've listened to the show for a decent chunk of time, you know that one thing that I love is the feeling of of being full. And so, um, I got 3/4. I've actually got a photo full of shit.

Tommy: It's not good enough for him.

Josh: He needs to, to really, really feel full. Now I'll show you this photo. I took it because I, I didn't take a photo of the before, but that's when I put my knife and fork down.

Mason: Far out.

Tommy: Yeah, so this— you've left quite a bit there.

Mason: He's less— he's left the salad.

Tommy: No, fuck off the greens. And he's actually left some of the parma. What's wrong with you? Where's Josh gone? What the fuck have you done? Take that mask off.

Josh: So I'm done with it. Look how good those chippies look too. The problem is with doing this, and this is what I've always felt with not finishing things on your plate, is you're not— it's not about stopping now that I have a problem with. It's I know that in 2 days' time I'm going to think about it and feel like that and be like, you had your opportunity, bro. You didn't do it. Like, I feel— I'm annoyed now. That I don't have those chips. Do you know what I mean?

Tommy: Do you know why though? Because you haven't eaten all day.

Josh: It's true, that's probably why. I'm fasting.

Tommy: You are fasting. All right, I'm going to bring you back to the request I put in with Mr. 97, Dean Broadbelt. I first came across him, I think he came across me. He added me on Facebook, he started kind of just sort of chipping away. I just had to see, just like reaching out to me, like saying just, hey mate, like basically I saw that he was in the radio space and this is when I was trying to get into the radio.

Josh: Say his name one last time.

Tommy: Dean Broadbelt.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: And so there was something not quite right about him. It's, it's that vibe you get from people. It's just like a gut feel. He kind of asked me to do—

Josh: he's like, mate, I work for this thing called Ridge Radio in Bateman My hair's raising because I feel like I saw something maybe 2 years ago of this guy being a massive scam artist.

Tommy: Yeah, well, Mason, now deliver some of the facts about Dean Broadbelt.

Mason: He's got multiple names. It's, uh, one of them's Dean Broadbelt, the other's, uh, Mr. Hemmings.

Tommy: Yeah, Luke Hemmings.

Mason: Yeah, Luke Hemmings, that's right. Yeah, and he changes his name, uh, to rip off creditors in hundreds of thousands of unpaid fees and failed ventures.

Josh: He did like an event that he was going to run or something.

Tommy: Crazy.

Josh: What did he ask from you? Do you remember?

Tommy: He was wanting me to put together a demo for this thing called Ridge Radio. And I used to see him promoting it on those, what's that, you know, that casting couch site, casting couch, casting site. Star Now. Star Now. You never know who's on those fucking platforms because Dean Broadbelt was there. And he was looking for people.

Josh: Did you sit on his couch?

Tommy: Together demos.

Mason: Well, actually, there's an interesting comment about sitting on—

Josh: no, you gotta finish that sentence.

Mason: Yeah, no, let me— I gotta—

Tommy: I've got a lot of accusations to Dean. You know, you're referencing me sitting on his couch would then mean something happens between us. That's what you— that's what you're sort of—

Josh: that's the alluded to. Yeah, you're spitting out. He was, uh, did you though?

Tommy: No, 100% no.

Josh: Jeez, what, you didn't?

Tommy: I didn't, no, no. Tell us, so what's his, the latest accusation to him?

Mason: Yeah, so he was, he was on a call with Mr. Berry, who's like a, he's a PT.

Tommy: Yeah, ex-personal trainer.

Josh: Could be Tommy.

Tommy: Yeah, 100%.

Mason: And, uh, anyway, so they're on a phone call, 1:44 AM in the morning, um, and Luke Hemmings, the, the scam artist, uh, says, I want your dick, how big is it?

Tommy: So he's trolling before he hung up on the victim.

Josh: Yeah, I want your dick, how big is it? Is that a troll or is that just an ask?

Tommy: No, I don't know. I mean, he might be gay, good on him. It's just, you know, some random shit that he said that's fucking unusual coming from this guy. So basically, I got tweeted an article recently about this guy.

Josh: So someone tweeted you?

Tommy: A friend of mine tweeted me a news.com article And it's just this such a long story. At one point he faked his own death.

Mason: Yep.

Tommy: Well, a press release went out saying that he'd killed himself. And I remember seeing that. And even though I had those interactions with him—

Josh: Someone can hear a banging, someone's hammering right now.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah. I had some interactions with him and then I was like, this guy's a weirdo. I don't wanna have anything to do with him. Even when I saw that he killed himself, I felt so fucking bad for him. Turned out he never killed himself, and he denies releasing the press release.

Josh: But who the fuck is doing that?

Tommy: I know he's ripped off so many people.

Josh: So what is he doing now?

Tommy: He got off all of it. He's never been legitimately convicted of these crimes. He's like, he's got—

Mason: he's gone under mental illness, um, pleas.

Tommy: Yeah, so he's got off pleading that he's—

Josh: I'm definitely not nagging him in this, uh, podcast, not mentioning his name.

Tommy: Full-on dude, but it's like watching a movie where there's like Catch Me If You Can. The dude, that's a film, fascinating. Leonardo DiCaprio, about a real-life dude who actually went on to work for some big banks about preventing cheque fraud. So he invented the systems that stop people from fucking stealing shit because he was the guy that stole shit.

Josh: Oh, interesting.

Tommy: So good. I think you'd love the movie. But he's the closest. Like, he's legitimately gotten cars worth $20,000, $30,000, taken them off. Like, he's— he's—

Josh: yeah, just brazen.

Tommy: He's a brazen freak. He's a brazen freak. It's so weird. But I thought I'd, um, I thought I'd just bring him up.

Josh: Con Man. When was this latest article? Like, what's all the—

Tommy: like, this is recent. Yeah, last week. So going back to court And yeah, I think the reason I bring it up is because it's a bit chilling when you've had a bit of an encounter. It's like the dude who murdered his wife and you were mates with him when you were young. It's like you think about it a bit more like, fuck, that was close to home. And so the poor people he's conned, young musicians, and he conned this one kid into quitting Year 12 and travelling across the country to go be under his wing or something, to sort of teach him these things and give him a job. And then he left him stranded there. So he's like a serial manipulator. I remember him calling me once specifically. I was in the house I lived in, Brighton East, and I was just like, just entertaining him. Hey dude, hey mate. He's just like a bit charismatic, just a bit not charming, but just, you know, on his way.

Josh: You are.

Tommy: On his way. Thanks, mate. Is he saying I am? Is that a question?

Josh: Yeah, I'm saying you're charming.

Tommy: Thanks, mate. Well, he was a little bit charming.

Josh: Yeah, takes one to know one, as you say. But I wanted to bring up before we go something that's happened in my life.

Tommy: Oh, I can't believe we didn't hit this top of show.

Josh: Yeah, I've retired.

Tommy: Yeah, definitely not from this business 'cause we need you.

Josh: I've retired from social media. I'm doing it quietly, which would, you could argue that based on me mentioning on the podcast, it's the opposite.

Tommy: It's kind of the only way to do it because tell them what you've done.

Josh: Well, I deactivated Facebook, got rid of my Twitter and just got rid of all my photos on Instagram. And so I've put a bio, in my bio now, now it just says retired from social media.

Tommy: Yeah, I think doing it in a noisy manner is keeping them and putting up a final post, see guys?

Josh: Yeah, yeah, that's how you go.

Tommy: Versus what you've done is like, I didn't even know until you got in today. Although someone picked up on it.

Josh: Old mate Stu So.

Tommy: Stu So, shout out, you were there Friday, Fat Fridays. Hope you didn't blow out the whole weekend.

Josh: Yeah, but he, I saw as I like archived my last photo and I just see this DM come in from Stusso, go, "What's going on with your profile?" And I was like, this is exactly like, I can't engage because I'm closing, I'm shutting it down. This is shutting off shop, I've committed. So I was just like, shut, delete it.

Tommy: Have you got a message for Stusso?

Josh: Stusso, yeah, mate, I got rid of it all. That's what I'm trying— I'm trying to— I realised that I was doing all the screen time, checking out how long I was spending. I was spending like at least an hour a day on Instagram.

Mason: Yeah. And so that's insane.

Josh: Yeah. My thoughts were, it's like, I want to be reading more, I want to be doing all these things. Actually, I looked at how much value social media was giving me. I was like, it's so low.

Tommy: Yeah, we've It's been a big discussion today.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: But if you were to kind of, if you say, I'm doing it because of.

Josh: I'm doing it to free up time.

Tommy: To replace with what?

Josh: So now I've set up, I've reset up my blog at joshjansen.com. I'm gonna write there every day and I wanna read more as well. But just less like, consuming shit. And the other thing too is it was inboxes. I'm so bad at staying focused. So then getting an Instagram DM, a Facebook Messenger, a WhatsApp, a fucking iMessage, a normal text message, an email, there's too many fucking ways to contact me. So now you just go to Josh, you just josh@joshjanson.com, you email me.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Or hi@thedailytalkshow if it's related to the the podcast.

Tommy: I trolled you in the past about doing these kind of things because I didn't think you were ready. You seem more ready to do it now, so I'll hold off on the trolling.

Josh: So I guess I'll, um, in regards to Reddit, what do you want to do about that?

Tommy: What do you want to do?

Josh: Well, I guess you can sort of manage it for a bit. We can see.

Mason: Is Tommy on Instagram as well now?

Tommy: He's outsourced every piece.

Josh: I had to wait until I had a business partner that I could just handball everything to. It's like, mate, here's my logins.

Tommy: But I think what I'm curious on is challenging the thought around the need for all of these things, like the need for every single platform. So it's, it's so— I mean, we've been talking about there's so many reasons you can come up for keeping it based on information. Like, my video of Obike went viral on Facebook to start with, so should I keep Facebook? Or 'You know, LinkedIn's doing well for me.' Yeah. 'And I've got work out of it. Should I keep it?' And so you can always come up with these reasons why. Coming up with the reasons to get rid of it, yeah, it seems like they're weaker just in the grand scheme of things, of what's possible if you actually put it away. Yeah, but that's what I like to— I like to challenge the fact that it is the arguments for why you should get rid of it can be outdone by the other side, but it's only because the other side is real life data. And so there's this on the other side of getting rid of it is all this unknown. And so maybe that's where the power lies in that fucking unknown landscape.

Josh: Well, I just think like I've looked at my phone way less. I've got way less to do on my phone now. It makes me not wanna, like I don't need to upgrade my phone. Like this is pretty good. Like I could even get a dumber phone if I wanted to.

Tommy: Mate, you'll be off the grid soon.

Josh: Yeah, that's the name of the episode, Off the Grid. Off the Grid. It's a daily talk— should I tell my— I once bought a domain name, offthegrid.com.

Mason: Oh, we've heard this. Yeah, we've heard this. Off the gird.

Josh: Off the gird. I purchased it and then I saw what I'd actually bought. Off the gird is the name of the daily talk show. Hi@thedailytalkshow.com. Uh, we'll see you tomorrow, guys.

Tommy: Bye.

Mason: See ya.