Live From Easey's Train Carriage

Tommy: Wait a minute!

Hulk: Frostface!

Jimmy: The Daily Talk Show, a conversation sometimes worth recording with Josh Janson and Tommy Jackett.

Josh: It's a Daily Talk Show episode 224.

Tommy: It's an OB.

Josh: Yeah, make some noise! Yeah, yeah, it's—

Tommy: sorry, it's not an OB, it's an IB, Inside Broadcast, because we're currently in a train carriage, an old train carriage that's elevated how many stories? 5 storeys up into the air. There is a high probability that I rode this train as a kid to school and potentially kicked out one of the windows back when you could do that.

Josh: So we're at Eazy's. Yeah. Great burger joint across the road from where we work. Yeah.

Tommy: It's, it's across the road from our office, so it's very convenient. But the reason we're here is because it's Fat Fridays.

Josh: Yeah, that's a thing now. It's actually a thing.

Tommy: And the other reason is because Russ Keys, one of our mates, has organised this.

Josh: G'day, Russ. What's going on?

Russ: G'day, guys.

Tommy: How's that voice?

Russ: Great to be on the podcast, mate.

Josh: Yeah, thanks.

Tommy: Great to be seen that I have zero balls and you have really big ones with that voice of yours.

Josh: So, uh, Yeah, so we spoke to Conspiracy Jimmy, was here earlier, and this is another Jimmy. We've got a Conspiracy Jimmy who's a mate of ours who, he is in the printing business.

Tommy: Yes.

Josh: And he's got a new t-shirt printing service.

Tommy: He's dropped a shitload of money on a printer.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: That prints out t-shirts. So what did we do? We printed out a t-shirt.

Josh: So we got Russ Keys. We thought, given the fact that he's organized, we've got a competitive eater coming today and all that, so I think we've got Russ keys, a t-shirt, which also on the back is Fat Fridays. It's official, guys.

Tommy: This is for you, Russ.

Josh: So, Russ, guys, thank you very much. We expect that you wear that until it goes brown. Yeah, it's currently, it's currently a white t-shirt.

Tommy: Yeah. So, Russ, you frequent this place?

Russ: Unfortunately, it's actually my first time here.

Josh: Not unfortunately.

Russ: I've been to Jimmy's other venues, but it's actually my first time at the Train.

Josh: So, but how many burgers are you having? A week, do you reckon?

Russ: Yeah, probably one or two a week.

Josh: Yeah. Yeah.

Tommy: So let's shout out to Jimmy's Burgers, who— this is his joint. Can you hand over the mic? Because we've mentioned the name Jimmy a few times and it's like everyone who's listening actually knows who we're talking about. Hey, bro.

Jimmy: How you going, guys?

Tommy: Good, man. How long have you had Eazy's for?

Jimmy: We opened here on the 1st of May, 2015.

Tommy: Yeah.

Hulk: Yeah.

Jimmy: It's, it's been an interesting journey.

Tommy: What came first? This business or the trains? Like, did you see the trains or did you say, I want the trains to have a burger place in?

Jimmy: The trains are put up here by a good friend of mine who went into property development at a fairly young age. I grew up doing graffiti with him and that's why the trains are up here.

Tommy: Yeah.

Jimmy: And then he hit me up and said, hey, I've got this space, do you want to do something in here? And I'd been kind of looking to open a burger place, but not.

Tommy: Yeah.

Jimmy: But the opportunity was just too good to pass up.

Tommy: All I'll say is, Mum, graffiti does pay. Look, there's a developer, one of the best burger joints in Melbourne. Can you say what you used to write? Is that like— because I used to do graffiti as a kid. I used to ride the trains, panels, hanging out in the drains. But it's like, as you go on, it's like, do you then say— because you're kind of like putting your hand up and going, yeah, that was me, guys.

Josh: You were more of a tagger, Tommy, weren't you?

Tommy: No, I used to do— I used to do full artwork.

Josh: Full art, yeah. Describe the piece. Before we ask for Jimmy's response. What sort of— what, a dick? What were you actually—

Tommy: what was the tag? It was— I, I will show you, you'll be actually fucking impressed.

Josh: What was it?

Tommy: It was like— how do I explain? A, um, a mural? Have you ever seen graffiti that's actually colorful?

Josh: No, Tommy's never done a mural.

Tommy: It's hard to explain. How would you explain a piece? Like, if I'm going piecing, he wouldn't understand this lingo.

Josh: Piecing?

Jimmy: Piece is an abbreviation for a masterpiece. Ah, so graffiti writer's term for doing a piece of artwork. Okay, on a wall. So that's where that came from.

Tommy: Well, that's— I was doing pieces, masterpieces.

Josh: All right, great.

Tommy: Thanks for having us. Thanks for letting us do this in your train on a Friday, which is a busy day. Absolute pleasure. But yeah, so what—

Josh: so Jimmy, what were— what were you graffitiing?

Jimmy: What were your pizzas?

Tommy: Yeah, fuck no.

Jimmy: I'm glad you distracted that for a long time.

Josh: I thought you're gonna leave it alone. Yeah, I can't believe that we've got two fucking Banksies here. It's just like—

Tommy: I just want to have an in-convo with Jimmy, so you probably won't get this. Do you remember Macho?

Mason: Yeah.

Tommy: Remember that? Yeah, he was everywhere. One of my favourites was Dorps. Yeah, right. So sick. I used to go around as a kid taking photos in the morning of the panels that were running along the line.

Jimmy: Head into Flinders Street and get as many as you can.

Tommy: Oh yeah. The T2Bs, love those. Yeah. 70K.

Jimmy: Special comments from Stus in the background.

Josh: Stusso's loving it.

Tommy: All right. Well, yeah. Thanks for making that cameo and introducing yourself, Jimmy.

Jimmy: No worries at all.

Josh: And Jimmy, the Instagram, the burger Instagram account that you have, how did that actually happen? What did it start at? Did you— there's got to be a day where you started having a couple of followers.

Jimmy: It was the 18th of August, 2012.

Hulk: Yeah.

Jimmy: And I actually signed a book deal at the same time to write a book about hamburgers on that day. And I left my job in the law and decided I would write a book about hamburgers.

Josh: How did you even get to that point?

Jimmy: I always ate lots of burgers. I worked at McDonald's as a kid. Dad and I used to go fishing, and that was kind of the thing. You go fishing and you get a burger after you finish fishing, or while you were still fishing, whatever the case was.

Josh: Fishing sounds great if that's the deal, if that's part of the deal. You get— I didn't know there was burgers involved.

Tommy: No, it was beer for Dad.

Jimmy: Yeah, I was gonna say, as you get older, it's beer and burgers now. It's a lot, it's a lot more fun. Um, yeah, so just, I always travelled around and ate burgers everywhere, and people would always ask me where to go and where the best ones were. So I decided I'd write a book about it.

Tommy: It's great. What do you got, 70,000 on your Instagram? Something like that. How many people hit you up going, bro, can I come and eat burgers for free?

Jimmy: Some. Stuss does it all the time.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kind of fixed or so.

Jimmy: Yeah, there's a few. I'm always open to eat burgers with whoever. Yeah, um, it's fun. What are you just going by yourself?

Josh: What's the next, uh, burger thing? Do you feel like in, in Melbourne it's been burgers? Like, I remember Mexican was like really popping, maybe like the insurgent—

Tommy: there's always an insurgence of some new food. Like donuts, I reckon, slightly gone out.

Jimmy: Yeah, I think there's going to be a big resurgence of pizza places, um, like New York style sort of shit. Yeah, there's, um It's good margins in pizza, so people are starting to realise that they can make a little bit more money making pizzas as opposed to burgers, which are very labour intensive and the cost of goods is very high, whereas pizza is much lower and you can get it done for cheaper.

Josh: That's interesting.

Jimmy: And they deliver better because unfortunately we've travelled down a real delivery strong path.

Josh: Yeah.

Jimmy: And yeah, so like pizzas is a traditional delivery product.

Josh: I made the mistake of getting right into, um, the Domino's CEO has a very active Facebook. He does like live streams and and shit. And I was watching, I just watch him, he'll do these like tours of their kitchen and he would show you making it or whatever. And he made it look good. And I eventually decided to order one of their New York style fucking Domino's pizza. That was one of the saddest evenings I've ever had. It was like, I don't know how to describe it. It was like, it's like fucking, I don't know, Baker's Delight got into the pizza business. It was just so, it was so thick. It was, it was very— it was like one of their pizzas but just bigger. It didn't have like the thin crust.

Jimmy: I've had a couple of those ones.

Hulk: They did—

Jimmy: they brought out a Philly cheesesteak one as well. That wasn't as nice either. Yeah, it was very disappointing. Domino's in the States is a good pizza. Domino's in Australia is not as good. Yeah, I don't think.

Josh: And because they're actually— aren't they a publicly listed company as well? There was a point where I was getting real fucking pumped where I'm like, maybe I get stock You know, you get like so into the CEO talking about it. 'Cause he's just like, there's something really nice about hearing people talk about food. Just like describe what ingredients are in your favourite burger.

Jimmy: I like my burgers very simple. So for me, I can have just straight beef. We did a special at one of our stores recently, which is a take on Oklahoma fries. Fried onion burger, which has been made famous by a guy called George Motz from the United States. He is the godfather of hamburgers as far as I'm concerned. He wrote a book in America and did a documentary years ago. But anyway, so it's just beef and whatever the combination of ground beef, really thinly sliced onions.

Josh: Yes.

Jimmy: Um, and cheese.

Josh: Fuck, does that sound— see that? Like, I was getting excited just— yeah, that's probably—

Tommy: you're a sicko.

Josh: Yeah, but that's probably why McDonald's did the whole, you know, the That's so, you know, the song, the Big Mac. What's the Big Mac?

Jimmy: It's a 2 all-beef patties, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions, special sauce on sesame seed bun.

Josh: Exactly.

Tommy: The good thing about burgers, it's a summer and winter food, so it's not like you can't— you can have it in both.

Josh: Here's a fun fact. I actually lost a bunch. I used to be 120 kilos. I lost a bunch of weight through having a burger every day. I worked out that it was like You don't have to cut them out, you just don't have to fucking like eat everything else. You don't have to have like—

Hulk: you—

Tommy: but you did say before, he's like, maybe I get the, the, um, bunless burger. And I said, get fucked.

Josh: Yeah, I did think, I did think about that.

Tommy: Fat Fridays and he wants to eat a bunless burger. That's a no-no.

Jimmy: You have 4 of them.

Josh: Yeah, exactly, 4 of them. Oh, we've got foods coming.

Tommy: It's going to be slowly arriving, um, as we go. It's probably a good time to, um, introduce our other guest, Hulk Smash.

Jimmy: Yeah, he's really fat, so Fat Friday's a good day to have you involved.

Tommy: But here's the thing, Hulk Smash.

Hulk: Hey, bro. Hey, Jimmy. How are you? How are you guys?

Tommy: Yeah, good, mate. Competitive eater. Your Instagram handle is?

Hulk: Hulk Smash Food.

Tommy: Yeah, 160K followers.

Josh: How did you decide that you could do this whole competitive eating thing?

Hulk: Oh, I think it started more as a joke about 4 or 5 years ago on my birthday. I was at, Hofbräuhaus in the city. And I saw Channel 9 there with a guy, Mr. Juicy, his name was, a wrestler, and he was taking on the Big Schnitzel Challenge and he failed miserably. And I said to my mates over a few steins, I said, I could, I could do that. And they called me out on it and they said, all right, we'll come back next week and you can do it. So I went back the week after and actually finished it. Went and looked for competition against other people. And just continually won and won and won. And I thought, man, I can, I can do this.

Tommy: Is there anything in that most competitive eaters aren't actually fat? They're like slim, like you're slender and you eat a shitload of food.

Hulk: Yeah. So basically everyone, every human stomach's the same size, what it can hold. It's a cup. So the less—

Tommy: Facts coming from Hulk Smash.

Josh: This is our most facts-dense show we've ever had. You're saying a cup?

Hulk: The less fat you have around your stomach, the more it can stretch. So that's basically how it works. So you'll see all the Japanese guys are very good. Most of the— there's a few big guys out there that can just flat out eat, but most of the really good guys and girls around the world are really slender.

Tommy: I mentioned yesterday, number 1 in Australia. And then what number are you in the world?

Hulk: 10.

Tommy: And then we were saying, what happens? What's that number 1 guy doing in the world? Like, how do you be—

Hulk: Well, actually number 1 in the world is a female. It's not a guy at all. So her name's Molly Skyler and yeah, she's a beast.

Tommy: Slender?

Hulk: Yeah, rake thin.

Tommy: Well, as I've just learned, we all have the same size stomach, guys.

Josh: Yeah. You know, it's a good— I reckon I could stuff a fair bit. Wait, so I'm just imagining a cup and then I see how much food you're consuming. Yeah. Where does it then go? So are you just feeling— do you get to a point where you feel your oesophagus is full? Full? Is that a thing?

Hulk: Yeah, definitely. Yeah. So probably competitive eating on the actual competitive side rather than just going around and eating burgers. The actual competitive side in competitions is really mental. So the really good guys can sort of switch it off. Like most of us get full the same as you would get full. I can sit there and have dinner and at the end of the day I'm full. But it's that ability to be able to switch it off. And then obviously the training comes in as well.

Mason: Yeah.

Russ: So can you—

Tommy: sorry, can you just describe— your food has just rocked up. Can you describe for us what you've ordered? Because it's 15 centimetres tall.

Hulk: This is Jimmy's take on the In-N-Out burger. This is the Double Bubble, and I've thrown a bit of fried chicken and some bacon in just for good measure.

Josh: I've never seen anything like that from In-N-Out. Is that a custom? There's definitely a custom job.

Hulk: I've bastardised it a little bit.

Josh: You've taken it to the next level. So does that mean that to be a good competitive eater, do you need a good gag reflex then?

Hulk: You need no gag reflex.

Josh: No gag, that's it. It's all about the no gag reflex.

Hulk: So yeah, the guys at the top, guys and girls I'll say at the top, usually don't have a gag reflex and it can be trained out. When I first started, I had it, but you can train it out.

Josh: How do you train it out?

Hulk: Well, we'll leave that to your imagination.

Tommy: Oh wow. It's Friday today. How many— Hulk's getting heckled by Jimmy. It's his fucking restaurant. So who he was. How many calories do you reckon you've eaten this week?

Hulk: I've seen you pretty active on calories at all. I don't— I couldn't tell you what a macro is. I don't know what a macro is or I don't do that. So the only thing I really— I'm not a fan of the gym. A lot of the eaters go to the gym every day. I just do cardio. That works for me. It's a very individual thing. A lot of guys will go to the gym, work it off, and then go have a big cheat meal. I'll just do cardio. I don't drive, so I'll do anywhere between 10 and 34 K's a day, just power walking or running a bit, and that's what gets it off.

Josh: My kind of lifestyle.

Hulk: Yeah, but no, Josh, you just walk to the next burger place.

Tommy: Do you think you have an unhealthy relationship with food?

Jimmy: Yes.

Tommy: Definitely.

Mason: Okay.

Tommy: Well, so do you, Josh. So maybe this is working out for you.

Josh: Yeah, it's ticking all the boxes. It's ticking all the boxes.

Tommy: Have you made any cash?

Hulk: Yeah, it's good. So there's obviously with the Instagram, you can make money through promotional posts and stuff and also through venues paying you to promote a special or something like that. And then of course there's the competitions and then also getting flown around to sort of overseas competitions or MC an event. So I did 7 or 8 countries last year through it, which I wouldn't have got to go to those if I wasn't doing competitive eating.

Tommy: I did, um, Shrove Tuesday pancake eating comp. Nice, nice. And I was working for a radio station then, and they just sent me as a shit kicker because their main talent that was on the radio wouldn't go. And so I got sent.

Hulk: Was that the Pancake Parlour?

Tommy: Uh, yeah, Pancake Parlour. This was at, um, Melbourne Central.

Hulk: I think I remember that years ago. It was all radio people.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember that. I wasn't even on air then.

Josh: All like Degrade, like Sue.

Tommy: Yeah, Degrade. And I was beyond that.

Josh: I was fucking the street team.

Tommy: Anyway, they put me up there. I won it. I won $500 for winning it. And then like these vouchers for Pancake Parlour. And then I realised because I came back the next year and lost it, that the guy who won it the second year when I got beaten just didn't rock up. He forgot to rock up the year that I was there. So it's the only reason I won it was because the main dude, uh, bit of a freebie.

Jimmy: Yeah.

Tommy: So yeah, I earned $500. I was fucking happy.

Josh: What year before? Do restaurants get funny about like the, um, health type part? Like, do you have like a paramedic on site when you do this sort of shit?

Hulk: Definitely not at the restaurants, but yeah, all competitions that are run through, whether it's the, um, World All-Pro League or the Australian, um, competitiveeating.com.au, they will always have a medic on one or two, usually two medics on site for choking hazards.

Josh: Ever needed the medic personally?

Hulk: No, I've done what, about 300, almost 300 challenges, and Never really badly choked or thrown up in a competition, but I've been thrown up on. I've seen people choke next to me and need the medic. So yeah, it does happen. Yeah.

Tommy: Choke smashed.

Josh: And so what is the best type of food? I think I've seen hot dogs being done before and dipping it in the water, which just makes me gag. I'm not even— the dunking. Are you a dunker?

Hulk: No, I prefer not to dunk. It doesn't taste great, but It certainly does help, but yeah.

Tommy: You're a squisher. I've seen you with chips.

Jimmy: I do.

Hulk: I've come up with a little technique I call the rolling rice bowl, which just rolls the food around and pushes it down your throat with no liquid. So it's a little bit hard to master, but that's what works for me.

Tommy: It's like Mr.

Josh: Piano Man or something.

Hulk: Yeah, you just gotta get the hands working.

Josh: And so the— I'm just blown away by this. So do you actually, do you make an effort? So when you're eating this, right now, it's not quite a challenge food, like that's, it's quite big, but do you shut off and have days where you fast or you don't eat at all?

Hulk: Yeah, I'll have 1 or 2 days normally a week, but during the week I'm pretty busy. So I'll do up to 6, 7, 8 venues a day and I'm eating at all those venues. So yeah, I'll probably do over 30 burgers a week roughly. So I did last year, it was, what was it? I think it was 1,100 or 1,200 burgers last year. Jeez. So, and that's just burgers, that's not patties. So it might be in the thousands of patties.

Josh: What does your doctor say?

Hulk: Yeah, have you had, have you had tests? So yeah, being with the World All-Pro League, I have to get checkups every 3 months for everything, blood work, they go over everything.

Josh: It's like porn stars, they have to get their STIs checked.

Tommy: Exactly, that's it.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Hulk: So yeah, we do those every 3 months. And, um, yeah, my, uh, tests are— I'm in the extreme low-risk category for everything. So super healthy at the moment.

Josh: Low risk based on every— your competitors, or like—

Hulk: no, low risk on just health. But if anything shows up, um, then we'll take a break. So I've had one break over the 5 years where I was showing up extremely low on, um, magnesium and potassium. So I just took a couple of weeks off, ate a few bananas, and that sort of seemed to right it. But, uh, I'm not sure what that was. But other than that, it's always been perfect.

Josh: Wow.

Tommy: Well, mate, thanks for coming down. I want everyone to start eating because the food's come out. I don't want to take the call.

Josh: Is this the double? Is this a double?

Tommy: You and I can keep talking, Josh, but we should let everyone else eat. Actually, let's just quickly get Ruru on the mic.

Josh: Oh yeah, you— yeah, you wanted to ask Ruru about, um School Days. This is the only time I think we'll have someone from School Days infiltrate the podcast.

Tommy: Yeah. Hi, Ruru.

Mason: Hi. How are you?

Tommy: Good. So you went to school with Josh?

Mason: I did.

Josh: Go on. So Ruru was telling a story. She was saying something. Oh yeah.

Tommy: So yeah, you were saying something happened at school and I said, save it.

Josh: What was it?

Mason: Who was the school captain?

Tommy: Oh yeah.

Josh: Was I a good school captain?

Mason: You were. You were a mentor. I remember the media classes. You used to come down and teach us how to do a podcast.

Tommy: There you go.

Josh: So this would have been 8 years ago.

Tommy: 8 years.

Josh: No, it would have been more than that.

Tommy: So you were GaryVeeing people back then as well?

Josh: I was pretty full on. But no, I do remember that they, when I finished, I wonder if, were you the year? This is going to be fun. If you're the year after me, do you remember awards night? Did you go to awards night by any chance? I just remember doing a present. Oh my God. With the, the present, the elephant.

Hulk: Elephant.

Josh: The elephant photo. So I've talked about this on the podcast where they invited me to do a short talk, um, to— for the awards night as sort of an ex-student. And I, um, I ended up doing a presentation. They didn't really say how long to speak for, and so I spoke for 45 minutes. And there was a point where I was doing a slideshow and I realised I'd gotten too far when there was a photo of me on an elephant from my Thailand trip they'd just been on. And I was like, guys, this could be you, you know, living the dream.

Tommy: So what was Josh like at school?

Mason: He was— I remember your days with Bree. Yeah, your early days. Yeah. Very loved up, loved up boy. He was a lot chubbier, curlier hair.

Tommy: Yeah, that's pretty nice.

Russ: Perfect.

Josh: Politely. Great. But he's changed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's very— Yeah, no, I remember, like, it's hard to 'cause when I'm actually in my body, it's hard to even think that anything's changed. But the personality, having seen me for 15, 20 minutes now versus school.

Mason: Personality is the same.

Josh: Exactly the same.

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: Awkward.

Tommy: Yeah. Big same weirdo.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: It's all good. That's what we love.

Josh: Thanks, Ruru. I was saying to TJ before we actually got here, I was like, the great thing about the podcast is the is the fact that I don't have to worry about my social anxiety because I don't have to see anyone.

Hulk: Yeah.

Josh: And then we've managed to create a whole Friday thing confined to a train carriage with a bunch of people.

Tommy: Yeah, it's great.

Josh: But I always enjoy it. This is the funny thing you were saying is it's like you were having a go at me before we got here where it's like I get a bit annoying.

Tommy: Yeah, it's like when you get tired, even your mum said you get annoying.

Josh: Oh, you've been speaking to my mum?

Tommy: Yeah, I've been fucking speaking to your mum.

Russ: Mum, come out, Lynn.

Josh: Just a call every weekday, just being like, "Lynne, just wanted to talk about Josh." No, I mentioned it and then she said that.

Tommy: And then I realised that when you get anxiety about social events that are coming up, you then become annoying as well.

Josh: I get really annoying. You get really annoying. I think my approach is get a bit loud, get excited. I think I was— there was a point where just before we left where I had my arms in the air and I was clapping. I was like, "Everyone get excited." and you'll just tell me to shut the fuck up.

Tommy: Yeah, definitely. Interesting. Another anxiety that people get from situations like this is who the fuck's paying the bill? And can we split the bill? And is it going to be— Credit card roulette, says Jimmy. That's pretty much all in his favor, except for the bloke paying for it.

Josh: Yeah. I mean, we were talking about in the state, like there's a few things like Australia is one thing. That's what I like about some of the places where, like, Fonda does this, where you go up and you pay and then it's all done and you just leave at any time.

Tommy: Yeah, well, so it's like a pub, it's like a counter meal, pay before the meal comes, but, and then you, and then you sort it. But it's probably because they've just got too many crooks running off. We're pretty high up, it would be hard to do a runner here, plus the owner's here, so, yeah, and he's been on the podcast, so we can't do a runner.

Mason: Yeah.

Tommy: Did you ever do a runner?

Josh: I've never ever done a runner. And the other thing too is But I am with, like, talking about those social anxiety quirks. I'm not like, Bree has enabled me. I think you've even seen it on the US trip where I just hate having to do the interaction at the end.

Tommy: Oh my God. So Josh will ask me to go down and order his food for him because he just doesn't want to have the interaction where he has to order the food.

Josh: I mean, because I, but then Tommy hates me spending money on delivery. So it's like, if it's a difference between Uber, Uber Eats is the biggest enabler because I literally stay in a space with no one and I order food and then I just have to—

Tommy: Dangerous.

Josh: It's for hobbits.

Tommy: It's just making them even more of a hermit. Hermit, not hobbits.

Josh: Hobbits?

Tommy: Hobbit.

Josh: Poor hobbits. Poor hobbits.

Tommy: They get a better rate.

Josh: I just thought this is a weird fucking, a dumb line of thinking.

Tommy: I had a sip of the Coke that's here and I was like—

Josh: Is it your Coke?

Tommy: This is the thing. I don't know.

Josh: I ordered a diet Coke. That's not your Coke. You didn't order a Coke. Okay.

Hulk: This is a diet.

Tommy: Okay. Someone else is drinking a Diet Coke, which is the one I ordered, and someone else ordered a Coke and they all came at once. But my thinking was, fuck, I don't want to be drinking a Coke because there's too many calories. And then I looked at the burger and there's about 1,000 calories there. It is such a stupid thing to think about. I have to have the diet for less calories, but you're out being a pig at food.

Josh: It's Friday today. Yes, it's Black Friday. My email has been going off with shit to buy.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Anyway, I heard on the radio something that I've never heard on a Black Friday. It was Black Friday, save $100,000 on a house. Geez. Anyway, do you really think that's a deal? I feel like they're still fucking you. Like, if there's $100,000 off the house. Yeah.

Mason: What's—

Josh: there's something missing. There's no one who's been like, it's a gimmick.

Tommy: It's a bank.

Josh: There's no sort of—

Tommy: yeah, that's a, that's get you, get you trapped for 30 years. We'll tell you that there's $100 grand less on the house.

Josh: Is there anyone who in 20 years is some big investor in a suit being like, yeah, I, I actually got my start by saving $100,000 on a Black Friday deal. I don't know if that's happening. I don't know if it's an actual thing.

Tommy: I just thought, seeing as it's Black Friday and people have been annoying us, maybe we should offer a Black Friday. We haven't spoken about this. A Black Friday deal for us to do a piece of video production.

Josh: Okay, great.

Hulk: It could work.

Tommy: We've never advertised for this podcast and we should just at least try and—

Josh: Okay, what could we do? What could we do as a Black Friday deal?

Tommy: What's the go-to percentage? Like, is it like 50% off? What do the deals do?

Josh: Well, for one, we're a B-tier— Yeah, 25 to 40%, Jimmy's Burger is saying. So we're a B2B, we're a B2B business. We do video production.

Tommy: We're a media company telling great stories.

Josh: What are we like? What company is— Russ Keys is grabbing the mic. What do you reckon, Russ?

Russ: Yeah, definitely a good idea. I think some maybe some free consulting or something like that.

Josh: Free consulting. Okay. And so the idea is—

Tommy: So he's taken it from 40% to 100% off.

Josh: No, well, I've got a gig that I need you to do for me.

Russ: Well, you did put it on, but you got a free t-shirt, mate, so you can watch it.

Josh: He's won the silent auction. You didn't know this, but I'd organised a silent auction beforehand. No, it's interesting, the discount type of thing, from a B2B type of thing, I've never done it.

Tommy: Yeah, well, so there's a thinking that they won't feel like they're getting the value because they're actually not paying, and so they haven't got that. Is that why you think that?

Josh: Well, I was just thinking about like where Bri used to work. She worked for like a fashion company, and it got to a point where it's like everyone was primed for the discount. They would only, they would only go into store. Yeah, well, I'm just watching Stu. So is Stu struggling to open his bottle of water and trying to get Jimmy to— there we go. Stu is always causing issues. It's what he does, he says. No, the, yeah, Quad Lock. Russ Keys has just shown us Quad Lock.

Tommy: They, they got Black Friday.

Josh: So not only are they doing Black Friday, but they're also doing Cyber Monday.

Tommy: Yeah, but they're B2C. So what we're saying, bringing it back.

Hulk: Yeah.

Tommy: B2B, what are we offering? Free consultation?

Josh: I don't know. What do we think? I guess, Russ, you deal, you work for a telco, you're dealing with businesses. Would they ever do something like this?

Russ: Yeah, definitely a kind of consulting. So if you take up an offer, we can actually throw in some consulting as part of that. So if you buy some consulting, we'll give you some free products.

Tommy: I'll buy whatever Russ is selling with that voice.

Josh: Fucking great.

Tommy: I just felt like I want to— what do you want?

Josh: What do you want? Can I pay you? The accounts director for big media company.

Russ: Well, I actually got sucked in by the, the Quad Lock deal. So the advertising, I was getting spammed on Instagram by their advertising. So it actually worked. I actually bought myself a new windscreen mount for the Quad Lock.

Josh: Mate, they are great and they've even got technology in them now because they, the Quad Lock, you can, this sounds like a fucking brand integration, but this is, it's not. But we, we're not important enough to actually justify that. But no, they've got the charging in them, don't they? Did you get that one?

Russ: Wireless charger. My phone doesn't support wireless charging yet, but yeah, you can buy it as an add-on.

Josh: Yeah. And I saw that they even have— because my biggest concern—

Tommy: you just said this doesn't want to be a sponsored thing, but you're going deep.

Josh: This is very important.

Tommy: Going deep on the sponsored post right now.

Josh: The wireless charging thing, the biggest concern I reckon is the heat coming from the sun. And they specifically promote— they've got like technology to stop overheating? Because I've had a few times where my phone will be in the sun and I'm driving along and it overheats, and it overheats from fucking Google Maps or whatever.

Russ: Yeah, I was wondering if Jimmy's just got a, um, a deal on today for Black Friday.

Josh: Oh yeah, well, Jimmy's fucking looking a bit sus. I don't know if it's just the mo— are you doing Movember or is that— you just— wait, we're just getting the microphone. You just started it last week?

Jimmy: Started it last week. This is my 13th year doing Movember.

Tommy: Solid.

Jimmy: And I had to shave clean last Thursday, so I had to start again.

Tommy: It's coming back. How long will this go?

Hulk: Pretty big?

Jimmy: No, I don't really grow that much facial hair. Yeah, it's dirty Sanchez.

Josh: Dirty Sanchez.

Tommy: Still so well-nickeling.

Josh: You wish, Jimmy.

Russ: Do you know what?

Josh: It actually, it's all connecting together. We had downstairs this morning at the cafe, Limo, the stand-up comedian, was on the project.

Tommy: He's on the project.

Josh: On the project. He was in the cafe and it explains he has a mo on at the moment, a real solid mo. And Tommy's— you've had a few interactions with him over the years.

Tommy: Yeah, I've done some stuff with him. Yeah. And I said, g'day, Limo, how are you, mate? We started chatting and then I sort of walked off from you and Mr. 97 and then I introduced you guys to Limo.

Josh: Yeah. And so he introduces one thing TJ fucked up and says, oh, this is my business partner, Josh.

Tommy: And I pointed to Mr. 97.

Josh: He did this very soft sort of point. Yeah, it was limp. And so it was a limp point. And so, and so no one can see, but TJ's sort of doing this fucking— I don't know what that is.

Tommy: Anyway, looked like I was wanking.

Josh: It was a bit of a wank. Really limp one. And so, real limp one, that will be the title of today's episode. Anyway, so we— so first of all, Lemo goes to Mr. 97. Oh, hi Josh. And then there was that whole interaction. Anyway, that was all fine. Lemo walked off and then Mr. 97 says, that bloke reminds me so much of Lemo. He somehow forgot, missed the fucking bit that it was Lemo.

Tommy: And so, but yeah, Lemo's obviously supporting Movember.

Josh: That's why he had a real, real solid, solid mo.

Tommy: Yeah, my stomach is rumbling. We are offering some kind of Black Friday deal. Have we worked it out yet?

Josh: Okay, this is This is what we'll do.

Tommy: What about a free just one-on-one, one-on-two session with us discussing strategy for video production?

Josh: Gag reflex. Exactly.

Tommy: We'll throw in Hulk smash too.

Josh: Yeah, gag reflex. But that's the two-on-one bit.

Tommy: We're getting a nod from Russ. He likes it. I need to hear the, the Dorset tones coming from you. Is that a yes from you, Russ?

Russ: Definitely. I think a free consultation is a good idea.

Josh: All right, consultation sounds— Stusso is clapping, he's excited about it.

Tommy: He's actually gonna enter. So actually, no, because then how do they— if it's free and we're only giving it to one person, how do they get it?

Josh: Well, I don't know if it is one person. The other thing is I'm worried about tyre kickers like Stusso.

Tommy: Actually, I've got a great idea. Email hi@thedailytalkshow.com, tell us why you want it, we'll put your name into a randomizer and shoot it through.

Josh: And then 3 people, it will pick one, mate. Yeah.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: But I think that the other part of it too is because when you're in video, it can be sometimes hard to— you get to a point where it gets to pre-production stage and that's when we sort of start needing to charge. So it's not that clear. So I think it is actually working on your idea, helping someone saying, and it might actually be that you don't need a video, you might need something else.

Tommy: And we can be like, hey, these are some of the things that you can do. It's a consultation about something.

Josh: Yeah, I'm overbaking.

Tommy: You're definitely fucking overbaking. Thank you, Jimmy's Burgers, for having us here. Thanks, BK.

Josh: BK's in the building as well.

Tommy: Say hello.

Russ: Hello.

Josh: I was going to come to troll, but I thought I'm trying to drop the troll tag that you've given me. So the Reddit troll tag.

Tommy: So yeah, he's just reinforced it. BK, the Reddit troll. And Hulk Smash, thanks for coming down, bro.

Hulk: Thanks for having us, boys.

Tommy: And Stusso and Stusso's son. Oh, he's got your mic just there.

Josh: This is fucking dangerous. Yo, what's happening? Stusso, uh, Stusso Uno on Instagram. Um, what a beautiful day in Melbourne. Have you got a Black Friday deal for everyone? Yeah, Black Friday deal. Um, I've got sexy lingerie, mankinis. Um, go to my Instagram page and hit me up. All right, thank you, Stusso. You know, just before we go, we didn't know Stusso was going to be here, which is great, but I've, I've said, which is an amazing surprise, I've said to Tommy, I'm like I've got this guy Stusso. I think he would be great for the podcast. We're going to get him on.

Tommy: He got— actually, he invited himself on just then, and I really appreciate that. Mr. 97.

Josh: We've got Mr. 97 filming right now.

Tommy: And Ruru and also Russ Keys. Thanks, bro, for organising this.

Josh: That's amazing.

Russ: Thanks for having us today. It's good.

Josh: And we hope that you wear that t-shirt every day now too, until it goes from white to brown. But, um, Yeah, hi@thedailytalkshow.com if you want to send us an email or you want the Black Friday deal. Yeah, this is gonna be great. Have a good one, guys. We'll see you Monday.

Mason: See ya.