$3.8 Million In Soft Drinks

Josh: The Daily Talk Show. It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 430.

Tommy: What's happening, guys? It's showtime.

Josh: Yep, it's, uh, it's Tuesday.

Tommy: I'm on my fourth— I mean, second decaf. Two strong ones. A guy will film strong, strong ones.

Josh: Strong decafs?

Tommy: No, no, two strong ones, two decafs. Okay, four coffees. Or if you want to go a bit more technical, technically 4 strong ones, 2 decafs, because the strong ones, 2 coffees.

Josh: I'm surprised you don't seem like a decaf guy.

Tommy: No, I'm not, but I really like the taste and I want a hot beverage and I don't want to be the guy that we were filming yesterday who his friends were giving him shit because he was on his 7th coffee for the day.

Josh: It's not— well, I actually hadn't had any coffee, which, uh, we were filming at Cisco, big tech company It was through an American agency and Ronnie, the director from New Yorker, great guy. And he's just like, he had a can of drink. It was probably, what time was it?

Mason: Just after 9.

Josh: After 9.

Tommy: And so a bit of soda pop.

Josh: Yeah, he had a, he had, he actually was double parked. He had a lemonade and a Solo. I was like, fuck, I need to get around this.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And then so I I was like, where'd you get it from, Ronnie? He's like, oh, there's like a fridge that says milk bar, you just help yourself.

Tommy: Yeah, I tell you what, if there was a fridge that was a milk bar at this office, Dill would have eaten everything pretty much the day he arrived.

Josh: Yeah, well, let's not talk about the brownies. Have you noticed?

Tommy: Oh yeah, I mean, brownie gate. What gate? Just put a word and then put gate after it and Dill's responsible for it.

Josh: Watergate. No, no.

Tommy: No, no, there's been a moment that I needed to pull him up on something regarding water.

Josh: Really? No, but I, so I went and had a Diet Coke, which I haven't actually had a Diet Coke in a very long time.

Tommy: Yeah, you go to the sugar-free or no sugar?

Josh: Coke Zero. But yeah, so I had a Diet Coke like 10:30 in the morning.

Tommy: That's your breakfast, right?

Josh: Yeah, what was my first like sort of caffeinated beverage of the day because I didn't have time for coffee.

Tommy: Which I think it kept you going because you're a coffee fan. So I could imagine the headache would start setting in.

Josh: Yeah, I don't know. Like, do you guys see me as a coffee fiend?

Tommy: Stop coffee then. Tomorrow, the next day, the following day, the day after that, don't have coffee.

Josh: Isn't that like saying someone's a water fiend for drinking water?

Tommy: You need water to live.

Josh: Yeah, I get that. But anyway, it turns out they weren't free, those cans. And so one of the reps One of the people we were filming just sort of politely said, just so you know, that's a, there's a charity box and you just put in some coins.

Tommy: Well, I mean, you've worked in—

Josh: At Envato, which they have the exact same policy.

Mason: Yeah.

Tommy: So I think it's a, I think it's a progressive step.

Josh: Ronnie couldn't believe it though.

Tommy: Well, I think it's different in the States. Like I think, you know, that company Cisco has a 70,000 employee business, probably more.

Josh: 74,000, wasn't it?

Tommy: That's a lot of people. But I mean, these big businesses over in the States, You know, it's come from the opposite way. I know a lot of businesses now have policies around flying business class, like it's all cut out. And so there's, I mean, if you cut out supplying free beverages across 70,000 employees, you save a lot of money. But then the optimised version is we'll keep supplying them, but now people donate. So if you have 70,000 employees, if they donate $1 a day, $1 a week, it's, you know, it's a lot of cash. I can't do the math.

Josh: Well, $74,000, is that what you would—

Tommy: a year? No, no, that's— I'm saying if you just—

Josh: no, if you had one every year, if you did it once every week— you're kidding me. 1 times $74,000 is $74,000. Yeah, $74,000. If every—

Tommy: I was doing them across a year at once a week. Now you do them as smarty pants.

Josh: $74,000 times 52.

Tommy: Yep. Yeah, do the math. It's all good.

Josh: Do you reckon I can try and— I'll try and do it.

Tommy: I'll be here.

Josh: Can I go within the— if I get within 1,000?

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Oh no, give me a sec. No, I can work it out. Do we really want to do this? Yeah, yeah, go for it. All right, give me a sec.

Mason: You won't get it.

Josh: Huh? Are you kidding me?

Mason: Yeah, go for it.

Josh: All right, give me a sec.

Tommy: Mason's so smug right now, but so is Josh.

Josh: So you got to give me like 30 seconds just to think about it. I'll talk you through my— so you add 2 zero— like, so say if it's 100, 100 times, so imagine there's 100 weeks. So then, yeah, so then we're talking, uh, what are we talking, 77,400,000, right? And so then what we have to do is we need to halve it. And so if we halve 7,400,000, it is— so it's half of 7 $3,500 is so 7— 3.5 mil. So 3.5 mil plus we need to get the remainder.

Tommy: Can't believe it's Rain Man's hosting.

Josh: So then, so no, this isn't, this isn't that hard. And so 35, so then we had the 4, so it's like, um, uh, half of that would be 2. And so, uh 200,000. And so then it's 37, and then we need to add, so 3.7, and then we need to add, uh, the 2 weeks. So it is— okay, I just need to write down— no, give us 10 more. I'm serious, it's worth doing. And so we've got 3 million— wait, no, no, don't fucking say any numbers. So it's 3 million, so I halved it, so I need to just go back.

Tommy: It's about 3.8 something million.

Josh: So my point is that I want to do it exactly. And so I can— yeah, so if I just go to—

Tommy: anyway, I'll tell you guys a little story. I was, um, going to drop off some camera gear this morning.

Josh: Do you want me to still work out the number? Yeah, well, I can't concentrate with you talking.

Mason: It's a silent podcast.

Tommy: Hang on, I think we've lost all listeners at this point.

Josh: So just quickly, this isn't asking for super— what was the last number that I said? When I did all the halving and stuff.

Mason: You said 3.5 plus, and then you went 200,000.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, perfect. Yeah, yeah, yeah, perfect. All right, cool. Thank you. I'll give it—

Tommy: 3.7 million.

Josh: That's all I need for now. Now give me— now you talk, do your story.

Tommy: I thought that's the answer.

Josh: No, that's not the answer. No, because you got to get 2 weeks of 74,000, which is 180,000 or something. No, shush, shush, shush.

Tommy: This actually doesn't apply to any of you young gronks. Behind the camera. Have you noticed, Mr. 97, when you catch the bus in, have you noticed the police presence on bikes?

Mason: Oh, just at the traffic lights.

Tommy: At the traffic lights.

Josh: Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: Sneaky little ones.

Mason: So many.

Tommy: So many. They're just like slithering. I just nodded at one and I said, you got one. Because he's— what he's doing is they're weaving in the traffic as it stops to look for people. Who are on their phones.

Mason: And you saw someone on there?

Tommy: Oh yeah, he got one, he got one. And that's why I said, yeah, he's got one.

Josh: I can't be bothered with the smile. I got so close.

Mason: What was the number you got?

Josh: Uh, well, no, so I just got to the point of saying, okay, 7, 7, 2, just say, just take a stab. 14. All right, give me 10 seconds then. 14. Um, it's very hard to concentrate with— that's all good.

Tommy: 3.7 to 3.8 million.

Josh: 14, 15. So what? Okay, so it's, uh, $3,850,000.

Mason: Oh man, you were $2,000 off. It's $3.8 million, uh, yeah, $3,848,000.

Josh: Was there— did I do that the right way?

Tommy: Like, I mean, you're pretty close. You're right, we'll give you a 10th place runner-up.

Josh: Yeah, but I just— at the end, I just gave up.

Tommy: But if I'd given it a proper thought— classic move by JJ over here.

Josh: You did well though, but you would— I don't know if you would have gotten close, do you think?

Tommy: But I'm not over here saying I would have.

Josh: Okay, I could have worked it out.

Mason: No, 7,000, 48,000 off.

Josh: Anyway, yeah, why do you keep, um, putting the— your calendar responses tentative when I send you stuff? What do you mean? Well, just hit yes. No, well, I'm getting a yellow tentative and it's annoying me.

Mason: How do you do that? How do you, how do you make it? Maybe it's an Android thing.

Josh: There must be something in your calendar which— but so when, when you put tentative, you mean yes?

Mason: Well, I mean, I'm hitting yes on my phone.

Tommy: There should be not A tentative, even like, think about it, a maybe.

Mason: You're getting a maybe.

Josh: That's what tentative I think means, maybe. No, what?

Mason: Why are you definitely responding to that?

Tommy: It's funny.

Josh: But that's true.

Tommy: Yeah, tentative. Yeah, tentative is, uh, maybe.

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: Anyway, just very quickly on the Diet Coke thing.

Tommy: Oh yeah.

Josh: Uh, so it was a slight, it was a slight Gronkh move. I probably should have paid for it, but they said they contributed $10 for all the Gronkhs that were actually there. I didn't have any.

Tommy: Um, so there was only 3, 4 cans. 4 cans had. I think that's a good deal.

Mason: $6 spare.

Josh: And so you were talking, you were talking about 3D Dill and going to the fact that he is an opportunist and he likes anything free.

Tommy: Of course. I mean, I only was on the toilet the other day and I look straight ahead and we've got a shower here at the office. And what do I see in the shower?

Josh: Which I don't use, by the way.

Tommy: Nah, me either. I've never used it. Dill's used it.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: But. He clearly used it because he's got the shampoo and all the conditioner from the hotel room where he stayed up in Sydney.

Josh: I hope you don't have the towels. No, no, no, no. The towels aren't okay.

Tommy: It used to be a thing to take the robes. Robe.

Josh: Oh, no, they charge a lot. Like, there's a big sign, like, they actually— I've seen in hotels now, they say if the robes are gone, we assume that you have wanted them and they charge like $140 or something. You didn't take a robe?

D: No, I didn't. I did not take a robe. But I have a robe at home.

Josh: The thing I thought was interesting is Mr. 90's pointed out the fact that— Was it when you were in New Zealand?

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: He decided to have some free fruit at Countdown, which is Woolworths in New Zealand. Yeah.

Tommy: They just sell alcohol in the aisles. It's a bit weird.

Josh: Anyway, he helped himself to some of the kids' free fruit. And what happened?

Mason: They pulled me up.

Tommy: Did they?

D: Yeah.

Mason: A lady came across to me and I had an apple in my mouth and then I had— I pocketed 2, right? Because we were on a car trip and I'm just like, I'll just get as many as I can. So, I got 2 of them and I had an apple in my mouth. Mouth and she came up to me and she asked me to put them back.

Josh: Yeah.

Mason: So I mean, I couldn't put the one in my mouth back, so I just continued eating.

Tommy: Just spat it all out. When I tell Bogus to stop eating something that he hasn't meant to eat, he just spits it out.

Josh: It just comes out. Is there any training that the people at Countdown are getting that are actually specifically around dealing with that situation?

Tommy: I mean, I think some people just like to take it on in roles. They like to look for areas to enforce the law. So we're getting, we're moving house. We're moving to the burbs finally. And we're getting out of our place over the next 4 weeks. And we rent off the owners who are lovely. They've employed a land, what do you call it?

Mason: A rental manager.

Tommy: Yeah, a rental manager, property manager. And my experience with property managers has never been great.

Josh: Oh, really?

Tommy: I mean, I thought it was a great industry to bring up.

Josh: No, they're all mostly scum.

Tommy: I've had so many bad.

Josh: And it's fair to call them, like the interesting thing is we've had so many experiences that even property managers who are good probably can say, you know what, the industry's pretty atrocious.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah. Jeff Jarrett says success leaves trails. Scum also leaves trails.

Josh: And so what's the scum move? What have they been doing?

Tommy: We've got 2 rooms with carpet before we moved in, brand new spanking carpet. We haven't trashed it. It's just brand new carpet still. And the woman called Amy and Amy called me and Amy was flustered. And you know when you call your partner because you want to share and almost get the energy out of you onto them. And so then I'm on the phone. I'm just like, what happened? What did you say to Amy? I don't have the bandwidth for this.

Josh: Oh really? I did hear that.

Tommy: But nothing's wrong with the carpet. She said the agent said said, the agent said, are you— she said, you need to get the carpet steam cleaned. Are you planning on doing that? We said, what? No. Amy did some research. It is not compulsory by Australian law for people to have to get there. So where Amy read this, she said, property manager will tell you that you need to do this, but it's not by Australian law required for you to do this. And I get that. And if we'd fucked up the carpet and if it wasn't brand new, I'd be pushing on it. But Amy's like, look, if she said it would be great for the carpets to be steam cleaned, she said, I probably would have gone, yeah, of course we will. But she said the attitude of this woman stating this, and then when you look up and see that someone's— that it doesn't actually require—

D: what is that?

Tommy: No, Seven, if you just do a quick Google, is it required by law to have carpet steam cleaned upon vacating?

Josh: Because I, um, because Bri and I moved into our apartment maybe 6 months ago.

D: Yeah.

Josh: It was a big ordeal trying to find a place, as we shared a lot of it on the show. But that was a contentious issue because my understanding and Paris's understanding is that it needs to happen and they expect it to be at that level when you leave. So our thing is like, okay, well, if this is the standard that it needs to be when we leave, we expect X, Y, and Z to be done. So it needs to be a quality commercial claim.

Tommy: I mean, the, the, the State I've walked into properties, like, hey, because we've been looking lately and you try and block this out of your head when you're not having to look. But I've actually asked a few of the people that were looking through, I said, is this actually classed as the clean? Like, is this clean? Oh yeah.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And then I'm like, fucking hell, this is disgusting.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: What is, what is it?

Mason: So you must leave it in a reasonably clean condition, but you don't have to steam clean the carpets, although landlords and agents often try and insist you to do so.

Tommy: Yeah. And she's, so the point is And I get it. I want to go into a place with clean carpet. If I go into one, I want clean carpet. I get that. When someone like an agent, scummy agent, tells you it's law. And so Amy wouldn't look if she didn't say that, if she didn't use a bad tone and say it's law. Okay, why would you go? Just be like, okay. Yeah, but this is the problem. Fuck it.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Anyway, so that's someone enforcing the law, taking it upon themselves in a role to really come down hard.

Josh: Yeah. I mean, I think like you and I, have our differences on things. I reckon that's one of them, which is, well, around like, I think I'm trying to think if we've done steam. I'm trying to think if we're, when we've exited, it's not really like Bray's very good at a lot of those elements. I'm trying to think of what we, yeah, we know we did like one of those commercial cleans where you've, oh yeah, just get an exit.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're doing that.

Josh: You're doing the exit clean.

Tommy: This is not about whether you should do it or not. If you leave a property, I think you should steam clean it. I'm in agreeance with you, don't think I'm not. Yeah, it's more these assholes.

Josh: Yeah, that's where you like to— point of view. Yeah, I want to—

Tommy: you want to— you do this, Josh. If I ever told you to do something or I was trying to enforce something on you, you want to do the opposite.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And so that's what— it's a bad thing, it's a bad approach to do that.

Josh: No, I get that. What do you think, 97sevs?

Tommy: He hasn't had to think about leaving anywhere or clean anything or pay for any piece of food. Yeah, well, I mean, leave it clean, but You ask the guy that steals food from Woolworths.

Mason: Yeah, exactly. I'm stingy. I'm not getting it clean.

Tommy: He's just found a loophole.

Josh: I feel like the thing is, I'm like, I'll clean it.

Mason: I'll probably do a DIY clean. Just, you know, get it good enough.

Josh: Well, I think that that was a problem. Like when I took photos of like, I'm the absolute opposite in regards to when we went into our place for the first time. I was like, this hasn't been cleaned to the standard that we want type of thing.

Tommy: Well, I mean, that's what these ads— So if you're trying to be, empathetic at all for—

Josh: They're fighting for the next person to have a great carpet and a great experience.

Tommy: Well, you hope, because what's the other option? That they're trying to fight for the owner of the property. So they— It's like, what side?

Josh: I get that.

Tommy: So it's like, but then someone loses out, you know, someone loses out in that process because there's—

Josh: If everyone does it, well, just think about it. So if everyone does it So, if everyone just does the steam clean as a standard, that means every place that you go in, you can expect that. I guess that's part of it, which is like, if you're someone who does it, then you can expect it on the other way. If you're somewhat like, it's not going to be something that you're going to really bring up at the next place, the carpet, you're just going to deal with it as is based on that's not something that you think about as much.

Tommy: Yeah, I guess it, but yeah. The lot— the, um, I agree, I want every place to have steamy clean carpets, if you call it that.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Um, the, uh, I think there's though an opportunity for that industry.

Josh: Property managers are fucked.

Tommy: But maybe it's a job that is on the way out in that respect. So the management of that, there'll be so many of those things that won't be. So it's like a shitty job. I know for people—

Josh: I've spoken to real estate agents, they're like You don't make that much money off the properties.

Tommy: The real estate agents have the rental role to potentially sell buildings later. Like, that's what my friend who's a real estate agent— I said, because I said this to him, he's like, yeah, look, we don't make much at all. We keep them on because it's a part of the business model to potentially when they decide to sell. So who are you going to go with?

Josh: You know, we actually, I think from memory, when Bree and I moved out of our apartment, last minute the person cancelled. I think it was like the cleaner cancelled like an hour beforehand, which was an absolute nightmare.

Tommy: I think we talked about that. Yeah, that was a fucking annoyance.

Josh: Yeah, I, uh, on the weekend— actually, no, not even on the weekend, yesterday— bought tickets for the football. Woohoo! Yeah, we're going. Are you excited?

Tommy: I mean, Fred is going to get excited.

Josh: Sorry, are you excited?

D: Yeah, I'm excited.

Tommy: It's great. I mean, I'm not that interested in other people's games, but when you get there— What do you mean? As in outside of Melbourne playing. So other teams that I don't follow. But when you get there, I get sucked in. I can't help it when I'm watching. It's something, the competitive nature in me. I start, you know, if I've chosen a side, actually, I'll just choose the side that's leading. That's half the time because I want the good result for myself.

Josh: Really?

Tommy: When I don't have allegiance with two teams. Yeah. Mate, in football, it's a score system.

Josh: I understand, mate. I actually, I probably played more games than you. Yeah, sure. How many games have you played?

Tommy: Did you ever do 50?

Mason: You didn't play over 50, did you? Well over.

Josh: Yeah, I definitely would have run through a banner.

Mason: Your own banner?

Josh: You fucking idiot. Did you run through?

Mason: No, I ran through other people's banners.

Tommy: I say club for 3, and then I all through my younger years were playing weekend footy.

Josh: What was that? What do you mean club for 3?

Tommy: Club years.

Mason: Club footy.

Tommy: Club footy.

Josh: What's the difference?

Tommy: 3 years. Uh, it's got nothing to do with school.

Josh: So school, you— oh, school, like, so if you go to a, if you go to a public school like I did, there's, there's no such thing as a team. Yeah. So how many club did you do?

Tommy: I played for Ormond Blues when I was like 10, 11, 12, and then I was 13, yes, or 4, and then a bunch of other years.

Josh: Yeah, I did about 6, so that was good.

Tommy: 6 years on the bench, it's hard, it's hard.

Josh: And so, um, uh, no, so we, we're going to the footy.

Tommy: Yeah, so I get on when, when this team's starting to win, it's like, ah, I like that. And then I jump on the bandwagon.

Josh: I reckon I'm the opposite. I like the— whoever's losing at halftime, you want them to come through with the win.

Tommy: You want a close match. I think that's what we want for Friday still.

D: Yeah, that's the thing, you want a close match.

Tommy: It should be. I mean, unless Richmond just absolutely thump—

Mason: who is it? Brisbane.

Josh: Oh, no.

D: Yeah, Richmond and Brisbane.

Josh: Lions?

Mason: Yeah, Brisbane Lions.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tommy: So, yeah.

D: And they've both been playing well from what I've seen. So, like, I've done my research on it.

Josh: Really? What do you know? Tell us.

D: Well, Brisbane and Geelong were fighting it out for first place on the weekend, and then Brisbane won 74 points to 70— or 75 to 74.

Mason: So who's number one? Brisbane.

D: Brisbane is now on the ladder.

Tommy: It's such a change.

Josh: Oh, this is good. And because Tigers won— Richmond won last year, or no? 2017. Who won last year?

D: Uh, West Coast.

Tommy: Oh, that's right.

Josh: That's quite good. Yeah, well, footy— but I mean, footy banter is now a thing.

Tommy: Yeah, but you get amongst it when you're at the G. There's 60,000, 70,000 people and there's people roaring. Yeah, it's going to be good.

D: It's a vibe.

Josh: Yeah. And so I think it's like what I'm excited about is getting like all warmed up, the hot dogs in there, hot dogs in the thermos. I'm curious, I wonder what the, um, the spread's going to be like in regards to food.

Tommy: It's just pies. So there's—

Josh: are we allowed to DIY?

Tommy: Uh, what do you mean?

Mason: You might get taken out.

Tommy: BYO, you mean?

Josh: Yeah. No, no, no, no. Oh yeah, BYO. BYO, but not alcohol, like as in food.

Mason: I reckon it might— they might take it off you at the gate. They inspect bags and stuff.

Josh: What, snakes? Like lollies?

Mason: Oh, lollies.

Tommy: No, you might think about all the families going with their kids.

Mason: Yeah, you'd be right for lollies.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, I thought you were bringing just like pulled pork and things. Oh my God, I saw a photo of a Melbourne Football Club fan and someone posted— look it up— it was like This guy eating a cheese board at the footy.

Josh: Oh, there was the kid who ate the whole watermelon or whatever, remember? At the cricket one year.

Tommy: Kept cutting back to it. Yeah, what a little weapon. Could we take some kind of food that could be spotted in the grandstand?

Josh: I was actually thinking about a sign.

Tommy: Oh yeah.

Josh: What do we think about 3D Dill? What do you think about making a sign for us?

D: Yeah, like a Daily Talk Show Goes to the Footy kind of sign.

Josh: Yeah, maybe like a Gronk Move sign. Anytime something happens, we put it up. Absolute Gronk. Yeah, that would be good.

Tommy: Absolutely.

Mason: No, that's great.

D: Yeah, yeah, we can do that.

Mason: Maybe, yeah, like a 50 meters. We'll just sign up. Gronk Move.

Josh: Oh yeah, that's— I think it's good.

D: Yeah.

Tommy: So when I used to go years ago, do you remember this, Josh? Um, you could— this is how loose it was. We used to prep before we would go, cutting up newspapers, uh, Yellow Pages into strands of paper, and then you could throw it off the side.

D: Really?

Tommy: Yeah. You could throw it off the side of the, you know, like a top tier 1 or whatever. People would do it from the top. And so you just take bags of paper to throw and they, they can't obviously. But that's how loose shit used to be.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Used to be out. Yeah. Bay 13 is a drinking area.

Josh: I knew that was a cricket. I didn't realise that was also—

Tommy: Well, Bay 13 is just Bay 13. And so it's an area. So it's like people would get loose and fucking punch on. But it's a lot different now. I mean, there's—

Josh: yeah, it's a lot safer if it's a 3:15 game. We do— I guess we don't need to do lunch or anything beforehand, we just sort of rock up and meet there.

D: Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely get hungry beforehand.

Tommy: Okay, I had to get a few meat pies.

Josh: Yeah, that's good.

Tommy: To be honest, the pies are cheaper than I thought last time I went.

Josh: Really?

Tommy: I was like, oh, this is gonna be— nah, nah, nah, that was cheaper. Not much cheaper.

Josh: We, we closed off hoodies, closed off hoodies.

Tommy: We've got a bunch going out, the orders being put through, and these are going to be around Australia very soon. Very soon.

Josh: I'm excited about it. Admin-wise, Organized August, it's been a bit quiet on the Organized August front. So every— so if you're just starting to listen to us, at the beginning of the month I started Organized August, which you could partake by picking one thing or many things that you're gonna do in August?

Tommy: Let's get your shit together.

Josh: Uh, Mr. 97, what was it for you?

Mason: Today? Oh, sorry, on the weekend?

Josh: Uh, no, what was your organised August?

Mason: Oh, meditation.

Josh: Okay. And 3D Dill? Running. And, uh, TJ?

Tommy: Oh, I can't even remember.

Mason: Your ideas?

Tommy: Oh yeah, the ideas thing.

Mason: Yeah, 10 a day.

Josh: Okay. And so 97, how have you gone with meditation?

Mason: Still going.

Tommy: Really?

Josh: Every single day?

Mason: Still going.

Josh: Haven't missed a day?

Mason: Oh, well, I missed that one.

Josh: Yeah.

Mason: Okay. Weekend.

Josh: What's good, Threaded Deal?

D: Uh, strained my knee, so I'm not trying to injure myself anymore.

Josh: Okay.

D: Um, so I've been doing like light walking instead.

Josh: Light walking?

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Do you just mean walking around the office?

D: I mean, I'll go out, walk, go on like an hour walk or something.

Josh: Are you putting it on Strava?

D: You don't walk and put it on Strava.

Josh: I don't think you—

Tommy: what are you talking about? You did that. Yeah, you're just doing like—

Josh: no, no, I used that. There was another app that was specifically Maybe, but no. Well, how are you keeping track of it?

D: I guess just doing it daily, just mentally.

Tommy: Mr. 97, I mean, you're the only one that's really stuck at something out of the four of us.

Josh: How do you feel?

Mason: Um, yeah, pretty good. I switched, I switched back from Smiling Mind and I tried Sam Harris again. Um, but yeah, I'm still, I'm still like under, under 20 or whatever. I think I'm on like 17, it might be, right? But it's still, um Yeah, it's the whole thing of questioning why the thoughts pop into your head, which is an interesting way to think about meditation. But I, I don't know if I've been noticeably calmer or questioning my thoughts more. It's just, I think it's just a nice thing to wake up and do.

Josh: It's been a busy—

Mason: put you in a good mood—

Josh: busy couple of weeks, so it's probably just offset the, uh, that anxiety.

Tommy: Oh yeah, definitely.

Josh: Um, have you— are you still zero, like, uh, missed days on meditation?

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, you haven't missed one. Oh fuck, I just wanted to not do anything yesterday. I didn't— I still hadn't done my meditation, still hadn't gone to the gym and it was 8 PM or 7:30 and Bodhi and I are in bed snuggling before he goes to bed. And I was like, Bodhi, can you put me to sleep? And he just starts tucking me in and say, you're safe now. And then he'd kiss— he started to kiss me all over. Then he shuffled down and kissed my foot. And I was like, I just want to go to sleep now. I just don't want to—

Josh: What time was it?

Tommy: 7:30. And so I was so tired, but then I went to the gym and did the meditation. I felt better after it. That's the— that's so the point of like You don't know if it's feeling it. I don't know either, but it's—

Mason: Oh, it feels good afterwards.

Tommy: So, yeah, yeah, exactly. All these things, they feel better after unless you're Dylan and injured your knee.

Josh: Yeah, but then I guess the question becomes, right, so like sleep, going to bed early is good, but if you've got something that you need to do, are you better off going to bed early and waking up early and doing it in the morning?

Tommy: What's the thing?

Josh: An email.

Tommy: Yeah, it depends if it's rattling your brain. Like sometimes if you're feeling anxious because you needed to send it the morning time, so you're almost better off just doing it.

Josh: Because it was like on Monday we had heaps that we needed to do before we had the shoot. And so it's like you get in at, you know, 7, 7 in the morning or whatever. So you're getting up before 6 and then you're smashing out all this sort of stuff but you had a good night's sleep. But then there's another argument to say, oh, like if I rather than going to bed at 9:30, maybe I could have done that thing that was going to take an hour from 9:30 to 10:30 and just go to bed at 10:30 and then not be as rattled in the morning.

Tommy: The trap with screens are when you start, you then it stimulates your brain. So you, you're— I, if I get into a flow of writing a few emails, it's like I'm a bit fucking wired.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Which is— so it's a, it's a call, it's a call you need to make.

Josh: But it's a good technique for procrastinators, I think, that early, just going to bed early.

Mason: Yeah, I'll do it tomorrow morning.

Josh: But it's also easier, I think, to, um, eat healthier going to bed early. All of my damage lately— it's like yesterday you asked me what I was doing for dinner, I said fish, which I was, I was impressed.

Tommy: Yeah, right, because I, I immediately thought salmon, cooking at home, and I was like, anyone who actually cooks fish at home is making a really conscious, healthy choice.

Josh: Tall Gronkh, Pete Shepherd, he, he eats a lot of fish at home.

Tommy: Fish guy. Yeah, for his brain. Smart man.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of brain fish.

Tommy: Tall, lean.

Josh: Yeah. But anyway, I, um, it was fish and chips. But, uh, but Bree did— Bree had, um, because this is the thing, in that moment you can go healthy options, and Bree went like a salmon and rice and all that sort of thing. But I just feel like, yeah, I just have a fish burger.

Tommy: Yeah, these are— these are all just habits though, because I, I've done the choosing— the rule of choosing a salad over, you know, on every menu, choose the healthy thing. Yeah, you get used to it.

Josh: Maybe Salad September.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, I mean, people, what do we think?

Josh: What do we think of Salad September?

D: It's just, I like it.

Tommy: The rule is already do it pretty much.

Josh: If there's a—

Mason: Yeah, I'm in for Josh though, it's great.

Josh: Thanks. Uh, no, but if there's an option that's a salad, I just get the salad.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, I reckon.

Mason: Yeah, exactly. If there, if there is a salad, then you have to get it.

Tommy: Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's a good move. I mean, it's any of these little changes.

Josh: Yeah, we actually have an impact.

Tommy: Shift heaps. Unless you're just eating Caesar. How could it do this?

Josh: I do love Caesar. I reckon you can get healthy off a Caesar.

Tommy: Yeah, you can get healthy off Caesars.

Josh: I wanted to shout out Sean Parker, our Gronk in London.

Tommy: Yeah, keep holding down the fort.

Josh: Yeah, he sent us a photo. He was on an escalator. Some drunk dudes have bumped into him. Fallen over, smashed his face open, sent us a photo on Instagram.

Tommy: It's fucking horrible.

Josh: Yeah, horrible. And so he was— the last message I had with him, he was awake making sure they didn't have to go to the hospital.

Tommy: What do you—

Josh: oh, I guess you just fucking wait. And I don't know what the waiting does, to be honest. Sean, if you're listening now and you haven't slept yet, just go to sleep.

Tommy: No, maybe it's— maybe it is concussion. Yeah, you get hit in the head, you don't want to like, oh, I'm tired now, I want to go to bed.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: It's like he's staying awake. There must be a certain period of time. Yeah, he's definitely done some googling.

Josh: Yeah, or he did '97, it's all over this. What he meant to do from a concussed—

Tommy: Oh, you remember, this is— I mean, speaking of playing footy, remember I was playing footy and my mate's dad was the runner and I had a knock with another kid. Yeah, and he ran out because I was on the ground. I was like, oh, he ran out and it was Ian. And I look up and there he is and he says, You're right, mate, you're right. Yeah, he said, um, what's your name? And I was so confused. It was like, fucking Ian, mate, you've known me since I was 2. I didn't say that, but I was thinking that. I was like, oh. He said, what's your address? What's your address? And I said to him, I live down the street from you. But he was trying— I get it now— he was trying to test if I was concussed.

Josh: My dad was a runner at the— at my footy team. Actually had to go to fucking tribunal. Your dad did? Yeah.

Mason: Oh, what?

Josh: Yelling at an umpire. It's not good, is it? Our mate Scooter Derrick got a volunteer job based off people like my dad at the footy. Because remember, Derrick was with Peter Hallier at a footy game.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And they actually escort the umpires now so that you don't have old dudes, you know, in their 40s and 50s yelling at the young umpires.

Tommy: There is something about sport that turns people into—

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Fuckwits. Yeah, it's— isn't it weird? Like, I see the emotion that my brother just comes over him and my dog— his dog runs and sleeps in the car because she gets anxiety, the dog, because it just starts huffing and puffing. And it's a— and if you're a Melbourne supporter, it hasn't been good. I mean, last year was great, but you're always apprehensive. The dog?

Josh: Yeah, where are you like—

Tommy: were you watching the footy that you have the dog at home on the couch?

Josh: And the dog goes into the car.

Tommy: Yeah, I came over once and the door of my mum's car's open. I was like, why, why is, why is your bro just going apeshit? Because, yep, dad's fucking flipped it.

Josh: Did you, um, did you find out about the, uh, concussions?

Mason: Concussions, yeah. I mean, well, it's safe to sleep as long as you can hold a conversation, walk without difficulty, difficulty, and you can speak without difficulty.

Josh: Yeah, you would be up all night.

Mason: Or, um, make sure you pupils aren't dilated. But, um, yeah, it's literally fine to go to sleep unless you've got those problems. Then, okay, go see something.

Tommy: You got a problem?

Josh: Yeah, that's great. Where was the— where'd you get that from?

Mason: Uh, healthline.com.

Josh: Great, thank you, Healthline. Uh, emails, messages, what do we got?

Tommy: Dave.

Mason: Dave sent in a message. Josh, 2 days a week at the gym is a dream of a payback for Mr. 97's hair.

Josh: So this was back when, uh, you bleached your hair on the show and you asked that in return I would have to go to the gym, which is another whole thing really, isn't it? Which we'll get to in a sec.

Mason: 2 workout sessions a week.

Josh: Yeah. Which I mean, based on 3D DILS standard, my walking to work is classified as a marathon run.

Tommy: I don't know what DILS thinking is about that. Even you don't class exercise as walking.

Josh: My circles yesterday Full loop, like closed all my rings.

D: Yeah, man, Tim Cook must be so proud of you.

Tommy: But if Josh doesn't even classify walking as exercise, you're not allowed to. Yeah, at all.

Josh: And so the, uh, you've been walking a lot since you've been here anyway.

D: Yeah, exactly.

Tommy: And so what's my point?

Josh: And so what did, uh, what else did Dave say?

Mason: Should be at least 3 days a week. Tommy the PT would know that 3 times per week is the minimum to show improvement.

Josh: Also, I disagree on that, by the way. But anyway, also, any, any— if you aren't going at all and you go once a week, you'll see improvements. You're wrong, Dave. Go on.

Mason: Also, one of Josh's 31 organised August tasks should be to catch up on the debts and promises he's made. For example, AirPods sucking.

Josh: Yes.

Tommy: Oh, yeah, yeah. To be honest, Dave, I'm pissed because I've lost my AirPods. I haven't seen them in weeks.

Josh: Maybe I think really what that is, I would actually be a lot angrier.

Mason: Yeah, I'd be, I'd be—

Tommy: Yeah, look, to be honest, I haven't looked hard enough and we're leaving, moving house, so I'm hoping that it happens when I move house.

Josh: Yeah, no, I'd be absolutely furious. Uh, is that the one?

Mason: No, no, and he's, he's also helped us close the loop on the 420 for weed. Yeah, uh, 420 is the proposition number for marijuana legalisation in the US, so they're passing like a bill or whatever and it's called 420.

Tommy: Amazing. Dave, you're looking for a job because Mr. 97.

Josh: Yeah, it took a long time.

Tommy: He pulled that up after the show and then didn't even tell us. I asked him, did you find it? He said, yeah. Did you ring it up?

D: No.

Josh: Slightly embarrassing. 3D Jill. Yeah, you got one week.

D: I do. One week left.

Josh: This time next week we'll be on a plane, I think so.

D: Yeah, I mean, as long as the stars align and the plane doesn't fuck up again. Yeah, that's the plan.

Tommy: Should be fine. What time are you flying out?

D: Flight leaves at 9:20 AM, so we're gonna have to drive him.

Tommy: That's a super early flight.

Mason: I mean, you've got $70 in Uber credit, right?

D: Yeah, I can just take an Uber.

Josh: I feel like we need—

Mason: we're driving.

Josh: Oh, wait, well, you, you say that like you can drive. Yeah, you can. Would it— would you be comfortable if I put the learner's on the I-30? Would you drive the I-30?

Mason: I mean, as long as your insurance covers it, probably not.

Josh: No, probably no. I don't think so.

Mason: I mean, I don't want to pay $2,500 excess.

Josh: What are you planning?

Mason: Well, mate, you're the one who scraped the hubcaps on the car.

Josh: Oh yeah, that's—

D: Yeah, literally, I've been here for 5 minutes and you've already messed up.

Josh: That was me being silly.

Tommy: Anyway, uh, so that's what— How many hours before a flight do you have to get there?

Josh: 3.

Tommy: I always— It's 3?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Yeah, fuck.

D: They recommend be there by like 6.

Tommy: I got there like 2 hours before the LA flight— New York flight.

Josh: Yeah, you're better off just giving yourself more time.

Tommy: I know, I just— I hate the anxiety of missing a flight.

Josh: The thing is, in Europe it's a little bit harder because they don't open it until like 90 minutes before in some cases. So, you actually get there 3 hours because you think you're doing the right thing. And then especially some of those smaller airlines, they haven't even set up shop yet. They haven't even got the people taking your luggage. So, you get there early and just sitting there.

Tommy: Isn't there— It's funny, like, think about every person in this world who has travelled has felt most likely some anxiety around missing a flight. Imagine if we already eradicated that. Would be better.

Josh: Buying a jet like, uh, oh yeah, like Grant.

Tommy: But then you'd be worried, you'd be worried about something.

Josh: Yeah, there's always something.

Tommy: Oh, they're not gonna have enough food.

Josh: And so is there anything else that you haven't spoken about, 3D Deal, that you've, uh, thought that you want to get done before you go?

D: Uh, well, the Great Ocean Road, but, uh, I don't know if that'll happen before we leave.

Josh: Yeah, we'll see if we can make it happen.

Mason: Yeah.

D: Other than that though, I mean, I'm pretty content with what I've been able to do. Yeah. Since I've been here. Like, I'm not leaving.

Josh: Well, you actually did the Great Ocean Road on the— like, what, you nearly died on the Great Ocean Road?

D: Yeah, pretty much.

Tommy: Yeah, you got— you get nearly got there.

Josh: And he was actually—

D: I was on the Great Ocean Road.

Tommy: He's talking 12 Apostles. Just watch that video. I'll bring in my VR headset, whack, strap it in. What is that?

Josh: Oh, VR.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, it's a good point. What is a— what is a VR headset?

Josh: Yeah, I think you said VR anyway.

Tommy: I said VR. It was VR, but I'll bring it in and then you can just have a full experience.

D: Google Maps.

Josh: Oh, perfect. Anything else? No, he says.

Mason: No, that's about it.

Josh: Oh, great.

Tommy: My mum's best friend emailed in as well.

Josh: I wrote back to her very quickly.

Tommy: Yeah, you did, but then I luckily found it.

Josh: Why did you—

Tommy: because she didn't say— no, but she didn't say so it would have gone over. And this is like, I saw the name in my emails and I was like, surely that's not my mum's best friend that gave me my first haircut.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And we've got photos of me getting my first— and mum's got my first hair. She's got the hair from the haircut. Isn't that— it's weird. Anyway, um, but that was a lovely— she'd watched Mum's episode.

Josh: Were you happy with my response?

Tommy: It was lovely. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Josh: I said thanks so much.

Tommy: But I should follow up because it made it sound like I signed off Josh. Yeah, yeah, so it makes it sense that we didn't know who it was.

Josh: Okay, okay, it's a daily talk show. We'll see you— are we gonna do, um, tomorrow in Geelong?

Tommy: Sure are, yeah. Hype Man's organised venue for us.

Josh: Oh really?

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Oh, BMAC, great.

Tommy: BMAC's organised the Deck. So we've done— I mean, we're just doing the, um, we'll probably have to do the Deck, the Deck Echuca after we do the Deck Geelong.

Josh: So episode, was it 50?

Tommy: 50, we did Shepparton, and 431, we're going to be doing the deck Geelong. Yeah, and then we'll do the deck of Chooker at some point.

Josh: Perfect. All right, it's a Daily Talk Show. Hi@thedailytalkshow.com is the email. Thank you for everyone who's been sharing the podcast on Instagram. That's lovely. We regram. Uh, feel free to screen grab and share.

Tommy: Yeah, and hoodies are coming, guys.

Josh: Oh yes, it's closed. You can no longer get a hoodie, but if you did, uh if you did put your name down for a hoodie, uh, they'll be, uh, on their way next week. Today's talk show. We'll see you tomorrow. Yeah, see you tomorrow, guys.

Tommy: See ya.