Deodorant Dust In Geelong

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: It's a Daily Talk Show episode 431.

Tommy: What's happening guys? We're coming to you live from the deck in, I was gonna say Shepparton, but no, this time Geelong. So Shades, thank you mate for organising this. We're at, we did, it was episode 50 that we did from Shepparton. And so we're now just going through the chain of their establishments.

Josh: Also Shades, AKA BMAC, how did he get the nickname Shades?

Tommy: I don't know. Shades. Yeah, I don't know. I do. I've called him BMAC because I think he's trying to get rid of that nickname.

Josh: Really? He should update his Instagram.

Tommy: Is it? Yeah, I thought it was Shades McCarthy.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, it's his shade.

Tommy: No, he's trying to get rid of BMAC.

Josh: Oh, okay.

Tommy: So he's trying to get rid of BMAC and move to Shades.

Josh: It's very difficult trying to shake a nickname. Yeah.

Tommy: Are you gonna shake 3D Dill when you get back?

Josh: Uh, I'll probably keep Dill.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, I could have assumed that. Um, well, no, every—

Josh: everybody called me Dylan before. Like, Dill wasn't a nickname.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah. But no, no one knew you existed before this show.

Josh: Exactly. So the deck, uh, how do you just— how do you describe it?

Tommy: Uh, it's a corner pub. It's—

Josh: are they all corners? Are they all—

Tommy: no, no, no, not the one in Shepparton. So it's, it's just a classic I mean, this isn't even a regional town, but it's like a classic pub on a corner. This is like 3 levels or 4 levels. It's got a deck, a big decked area where you can, you know, get a bit sloppy. But yeah, I mean, they're just pubs. They're establishments that you would never go into unless we had a contact like Shades.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Because I mean, I don't know if you'd come here. This is a drinking hole for the Deakin University, which is across the road from this place.

Josh: And we also have a bunch of gronks that live close by. Wayne Peters, I believe. Lives close by?

Tommy: Yeah, he commutes from Geelong every day to Melbourne. While we're on the Geelong theme, I thought I just looked up some interesting facts about Geelong. The one that got me—

Josh: I'm curious if 97 has any Geelong facts. Do you know anything about Geelong?

Tommy: No, I mean, I thought those boys, which were like a—

Josh: what do they call it? Like, so I think some people call them buoys, maybe.

Tommy: Yeah, definitely.

Josh: Yeah, boys.

Tommy: Boys, the— as in the things that float in the water.

Josh: Yeah, there's a— there is a sculpture or like an installation, which is— I'm a creative guy, but you've got to have a bunch of extra cash to do sculptures, don't you think?

Tommy: Well, I mean, towns like Shepparton, they have cows everywhere, and so there's money being spent, and I don't know, it's a drawcard. I mean, we're talking about it. This is Marketing 101, do something that people talk about.

Josh: Yeah, sure.

Tommy: Um, so the big boys, maybe we should have done the big boys. Um, so this is one of the facts, uh, each and every Baywalk bollard tells a storey of the person or events associated with Geelong's history. There are 111 scattered along the waterfront. Rabbits can be found on a number of them. Why? Because in— because why? In 1859 Thomas Austin released 24 rabbits into the wild on his property, Barwon Park, at Winchelsea, just outside of Geelong, on Christmas Day, introducing the rabbit to Australia. So I don't know if that's—

Josh: They became pests.

Tommy: I know, I don't know if that's one— I mean, it's an interesting fact, but I don't know if it's one you'd want to hang your hat on. I mean, they had to release a virus after that to kill off so many of them because they were—

Josh: You'd make them blind and stuff, wouldn't they? They used to put this paste almost look like, um, remember hair mousse?

Tommy: Oh yeah, yeah. I mean, what are you—

Josh: hair mousse?

Tommy: People like my mum still use it.

Josh: Really? She doesn't look like someone who would use hair mousse.

Tommy: She's got short hair and it just gives it that little, you know, volume.

Josh: When I think of hair mousse, I think of more curly, don't you think? Like people's hair going curly.

Tommy: I mean, I used to use mousse as a kid too.

Josh: Yeah, um, I used— I used so much wax once in my hair that it like It just took days and days of washing it because I would just like, like, take it— like, Mum would always say, use a 5-cent piece. Oh, as in like the amount? And I just never— I was always like, more is better. And so I just like grabbed the whole thing. You're not one to follow the rules.

Tommy: No, to be honest, there was no other interesting facts that I found.

Josh: Um, what was your hairstyle growing up?

Tommy: Uh, just spiked, just hard, rock hard spikes. Not a gel, not a greasy salesman. I mean, amazing that I used to tell— it was like Some days I wouldn't go to school because I didn't have any New Wave gel. Yeah, I mean, it's pretty young.

Josh: It's similar to my AirPods. If I—

Tommy: baby doesn't have his AirPods, I was 9. Yeah, it was primary school still.

Josh: Yeah, I mean, the fact that we're in Geelong, it is because we, we have a client job with LandBuild. Yeah, uh, working on a construction site. Yeah, I've actually, I've actually changed my shoes, but, uh, I can't believe you should have left them on.

Tommy: They were great. They actually look good.

Josh: Yeah, they do look good. So basically I was having a conversation, uh, with, uh, Russell, uh, who owns Land Build, and we were talking about the shoot for today. This was yesterday. And, um, I said, anything we need to keep in mind? He's like, well, you know, obviously just wear sort of hard shoes, like, um, steel-capped or whatever it was. Yeah. And then at that moment I had to make a choice. Do I point out the fact that we don't have them, or do I just go with it and say, yeah, of course, of course.

Tommy: I mean, you could read as he— like, building sites, there's a bunch of loose units that run building sites. Russell doesn't seem like that, but was he just doing due diligence saying it? Because then it's up to you guys whether you— whether or not— do you think he's just putting out there because he has to?

Josh: I think if anyone said— like, when someone says it, it straight away puts the onus on you of like, well, you better sort this out.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah.

Josh: So before you know it, it's 8 PM last night and you and I at Bunnings trying to find shoes that would fit. I mean, I was— I would like to say that you were a good business partner in that moment because you get— we are the same size shoe.

Tommy: No, I'm bigger.

Josh: Uh, no, you're not.

Tommy: What size are you?

Josh: Uh, okay, what's the size of those right now that you got on?

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, it's— it's just a size.

Josh: I can't read it.

Tommy: Uh, so I'm a US 12.

Josh: These are on 11.5, I think.

Tommy: Bigger foot.

Josh: You've got— you wear the shoes that I, I bought for myself.

Tommy: They were huge though. They're a swimmer. I mean, those big— those Nikes, they're like— I don't know, so much space.

Josh: Do you really think—

Tommy: I mean, dude, my foot's filling out this shirt.

Josh: Take your foot. Take your, uh— I'm serious though. I'm curious. No, take— no, no, don't compare shoe to shoe.

Tommy: What do you want me to put? Foot to foot. You can't, you gotta do your other one.

Josh: No, you do the other one. I took my shoe off first.

Tommy: But do you not understand how we're sitting?

Josh: Left to left.

Tommy: You have to go left, Josh.

Josh: Why left?

Tommy: I mean, Tommy is—

Josh: you have to go right. Oh, because Tommy said— okay, here we go. So I reckon—

Tommy: I mean, if this is not close— Tommy's bigger.

Josh: No, what?

Tommy: Mate, my foot is way bigger than yours.

Josh: Whose is wider?

Tommy: This is—

Josh: who's got more girth? Anyway, I think it's fair to say I win in the girth department. But, uh, no, anyway, so we went and got, uh, that's 11.5 by the way.

Tommy: Okay, my foot's way bigger.

Josh: I don't think— but the thing was, you were, um, it was one of those points where, uh, you don't have your exact size, and I could see you trying to work out in your head how, how thick you could buy a pair of socks.

Tommy: Uh, the thing is though, building like those kind of shoes, you don't want them too small because then it's fucking uncomfortable. You'd rather them a bit bigger, but all this, all the size 11 were sold out.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And they're all different, like they're all weird sizes. Anyway, it was, um, it's funny going on to building sites and shit because you gotta act the part. You gotta— we've shot on a bunch of sites.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And there's a— you kind of bring a bit of, uh, you know, ego, mate.

Josh: Yeah. Well, I felt like a— with my, uh, construction shoes, I felt like the foreman just walking around, you know. I think they actually look quite good, the shoes that we ended up getting.

Tommy: Yeah, not those.

Josh: They were only— and they weren't that expensive either. They were like $80, $89, were they? $50?

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, $80, $89. But that's the thing, these— everything's so cheap now, um, and it— I mean, half this shit's just bought and probably thrown out quickly. Like, how many times are we going to use those? The assets for our, you know, at the office, um, someone who I want to, want to get on the show, uh, I filmed at another job last week at Country Road. Joost Bakker, he's the—

Josh: I love that name. Yeah, have you met anyone named Joost before?

Tommy: No, J-O-O-S-T, which I, I wouldn't, I wouldn't say.

Josh: You're a German guy?

Tommy: I mean, he sounded Aussie. He's from Monbulk, Victoria. And, um, what did you say? Sounded really buggin', but lovely part of Victoria. Anyway, I, um, I I was really impressed by him. I didn't know who he was, but, um, he's the poster boy of zero waste according to the New York Times, which is cool. How cool is that? And so, um, he, he's all about sustainability and, you know, living a zero waste life. And some of the stuff he was talking to fucking resonated with me.

Josh: So I was like, is he a vegetarian?

Tommy: I don't know. Well, I don't know. He lives on a farm. He probably has animals. I don't know. He never spoke to that.

Josh: I wonder if you could be all zero waste and be having a bit of beef as well.

Tommy: No, because I think he said that the world can be zero waste because that's what the world is. If we weren't here and there was like, shit's not— there's no waste. It just goes through its cycle. So if you look at zero waste across the world, it's like animals die, birds eat them, it turns into, you know, fertilises the ground. So there's like a bunch of things that animals assist with.

Josh: What would Country Road— this isn't an ad for them— what are they? Actually doing?

Tommy: Oh, it's unbelievable. They've launched a 5-star Green Star rating store.

Josh: It's a lot of stars.

Tommy: Yeah, I know, literally. Dylan did the selects for the video and he's nodding, he's like, I got it right. But they've got a new Chatty store, which is their flagship, and they've— it's sustainable as fuck. I'm sure they wouldn't use—

Josh: I wonder how they make it sustainable in an actual shopping center.

Tommy: The hooks on the wall. Are from plastic nets caught, found in the ocean. Yeah, fishnets and plastics. The carpet is recycled plastics as well. The floorboards are all recycled. The benchtops are made from yoghurt containers, but it looks high-end. And so they're moving to more fabrics being reused. So jeans you can buy, Joost was wearing a pair of jeans that had been made made of recycled denim and the energy. And so it's beyond just the lights and shit.

Josh: Recycled denim, what does that mean? That like, do we use denim for anything else outside of jeans and stuff? I have no idea. So if it's recycled denim, is it literally like from Jenny's jeans? Yeah, Jenny's old jeans. Yeah, getting reused type of thing.

Tommy: Anyway, I messaged Joost last night on the bus because I was like, ah, I want to see if I can get him on. And I found him on Instagram and he's got 34,000 followers. I think he's actually a big deal. I hadn't heard of him, but I'm not across my sustainable living, but I want to be. And so anyway, I messaged him.

Josh: Were you doing the whole Cape Cup thing? 7-Eleven?

Tommy: Yeah, see, I mean, the free bit got me in first. Cape Cups are great. I said, my name's Tommy, I was the video guy filming you last week.

Josh: #videographer.

Tommy: Store launch. Well, I didn't want to be a wanker and go with filmmaker, just video guy.

Josh: Literally, you had a polo shirt on.

Tommy: There was one bit where I fucked up because I said, and this is a spelling mistake I only worked out once I'd hit send, and I said, um, we, you know, we've recorded every episode, um, we, uh, what I've said, we've recorded over 430 episodes since Jan 2018 and haven't missed a show since starting. And then I wrote, our precious, our precious guests include people like Seth Godin, Zoe Foster-Boleig, What did you mean to say previous?

Josh: Previous?

Tommy: And I've read it back, and you know when you're like, I can't unsend it.

Josh: And so did you just do a star? You just do an asterisk?

Tommy: No, I tapped on the end, and when I say precious guest, I mean previous.

Josh: Okay, well, that's good. You, uh, you're precious.

Tommy: Fuck you, Siri. I mean, Apple, you know, Skulltech.

Josh: I mean, sending email, we got an email, uh, yesterday, like someone had done like a, a big send out, and they do the thing where it's like they BCC you in or whatever.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Which is fine, but then it got confused in their email client, and then before you know it, they were emailing someone else. Oh yeah, but they were emailing out like, they're like, oh hey, hey Becky, email thread just got all like, oh, and, and so could we see on their response the chain, or no, no, no, no.

Tommy: So does that mean that we're still attached to the chain, or they've just responded to us accidentally within, within the chain?

Josh: I had a mate who had written an email. Like, basically they received an email from someone about doing some business or whatever. They weren't happy with it, had this internal conversation with the team, and then realized, oh, I've still got to get back to the person, and then replied to the person but didn't realise that their whole conversation had been in there. Oh no. And basically just had to email and be like, hey, I fucked up. But I mean, that's— I mean, there's a learning— there's a part of me which is like, on WhatsApp, on iMessage, Facebook, all these things, Slack, it needs to be at a standard where if people logged in, yeah, it wouldn't be the end of your career.

Tommy: Yeah, ending, ending your career is— you'd have to say some pretty brutal shit, anything racist, your career's over. But I second-guess every message I send you based on it being screenshot and uploaded.

Josh: No, I do do a bit of screenshot. Yeah, I I literally do it as a way also just to, um, well, no, because I did it for '97. I screen grabbed these, but I also did it the other day, uh, when I was trying to, like, I was trying to work out whether I will go into the footy or not. And I sort of couldn't, like, uh, we're going with, uh, Gem Watts, and she'd been pressuring me, uh, to get the tickets because I kept saying to her, I'm getting the tickets, I'm getting the tickets, and then we'd go to the AFL website and it's like 'Oh, what are we? Are we reserve? Like public reserve? I don't know what we do.' And so we'd put it off, put it off, and then I went to do it and then my card for some reason had gotten declined because I did the wrong CSV thing. But then it was constantly declining it. And then you had messaged and were like, 'You know, we're doing something exciting for Fat Fridays.' And you said, 'Actually, I'd prefer to do that over footy.' And I did screen grab that and say, 'Hey Gem, I don't know if we—' Did you send it to her?

Tommy: And upon reflecting on that, yeah, never send me a message to ask if we should do something late at night when we've been working really hard. You know, when you're tired and you feel— it's like saying, what do you feel like for dinner? It's at lunchtime and you've just eaten a huge meal. You've got no interest in answering it because you're weak.

Josh: Just get a parma. You want a parma.

Tommy: But so when you're tired, because then I was like, you were like, yeah, let's— nah, fuck it, we'll do it. I reckon Bree was in your ear too, next to you saying, I'm trying to— no, no, just do it, do it.

Josh: I'm trying to think. No, it was definitely, uh, it was the fact that I'd said for so long, we're doing it, we're doing it, and Gem was like, I don't care, I just need to know whether we're doing it. I'm like, we should. I actually will enjoy doing it.

Tommy: Oh, it'll be great when we're there. I mean, these are like most things, it's like, it's the admin, to be honest.

Josh: The thing that was annoying me was getting the tickets. That's what— but 97 couldn't even do it, could you? No, I was I call Tommy.

Tommy: What? No, as in you're upstairs. Yeah, but I wonder why. That should be— should be simple though.

Josh: Yeah, no, it's not because it goes through Ticketek. And the thing was then it like redirects. Well, it's got like a login, like so I log into my old like Gmail from like 10 years ago with the last time was like buying Delta Goodrem tickets or whatever. And then you're never trying to work out on record now, dude.

Tommy: I love Delta Goodrem.

Josh: She has a bunch of great tracks.

Tommy: No, I know she's great.

Josh: Um, no, but you were, uh, going back to the, the shoe things, you were quite a selfless person at Bunnings.

Tommy: Well, the ones that would have been closest to fitting me weren't right. What do you mean? Weren't like I needed slightly, I needed a little bit more room. As you know that I've got a huge foot. Huge.

Josh: I actually, I reckon it was your left foot. I reckon, I reckon your left foot is bigger than your than—

Tommy: That was my right foot. That was his right foot.

Josh: So you're comparing my left with your right? That's unfair. I reckon my right— my right is— you can do your right. I think my right is bigger. Anyway, it doesn't matter. This is going into the who's got more testosterone, which, um, which Bigfoot over here is probably running at 1000ccs. Uh, no, but you were, uh, when we were leaving early this morning, got it, had to— got up actually, I got up at half past 4. Did you? Yeah.

Tommy: And you were still late. I was perfectly on time.

Josh: We were perfectly on time. Anyway, the, uh, uh, you basically said, hey, can you pick us up from, uh, pick you up from McDonald's?

Tommy: Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, I was— I'm glad it was open because they're doing construction on that one.

Josh: And one straight. Yeah. And I took a punt and it was— anyway, uh, you were in charge of breakfast. Coffee is a big part of our— the culture, the thing that we've sort of created with them.

Tommy: Not famous in '97.

Josh: And he loves his hot chocolate. But do— upon reflection, what happened was, uh, we, uh, driving along, pull over, you come into the car and, um, you've got a bag of McDonald's and I see one coffee cup. And do you know what my third thought was?

Tommy: Thanks, Tommy, you've done such a great thing and got us McDonald's.

Josh: No, I was literally like, this is awkward for the boys. He's only gotten me a I was like, oh, I'm gonna feel bad, but I like— I'm glad that he at least got me one. Anyway, so you get into— you get into the car, and did I even ask? What did I say?

Tommy: Flat out rude. Where's my fucking coffee? Where's my coffee? Oh, uh, I've got McDonald's for you.

Josh: No, but like, do you think that that's fair, the way that you're you're placing it, because the thing is, that was your— like, you put your hand up, dude. Like, the 'I got McDonald's for you'— the reason you got McDonald's is because I drove, I went and picked you up. That's why. And that was like part of the deal. But I just feel in future, rather than a McMuffin, I probably would have preferred—

Tommy: that's good to know.

Josh: Don't you think? Is that fair or not?

Tommy: You were happier, and after you'd eaten, so both helped. Yeah, it's, um, the thing is 2 thoughts. Getting you something like a 7-Eleven coffee is risky because it's—

Josh: Getting me one?

Tommy: Well, getting you one that you actually want. Like, I wouldn't want that if I got into a car and someone had gone to 7-Eleven to get me a coffee. I wouldn't want it. I'd rather the Macca's based on the coffee specific. I want my, you know, specific one. I don't know what to get you. So then it's that, it's like This is, you know, I've never— I thought you would have liked the food, or you're just a fucking ungrateful little shit. I think it's like your mum buying you doughnuts and the icing's come off onto the lid and you flipped out.

Josh: I think it was a learning. Um, here he is.

Tommy: Yo yo, hey dude. Um, this is Ross, who owns the joint, so fuck it. Oh great, actor, you know, actor.

Josh: Hey Ross, just doing the show, just talking coffees. Just talking. Um, no, the, uh, yesterday One other, one thing that was happening, I had a client meeting, wanted to create a good ambiance in the office.

Tommy: As you do. I mean, the office is great. The office already exudes ambiance. Dim the lights. Certain smell. Dim the lights, the studio impresses.

Josh: But I'm actually seeing this audio recorder. I reckon we pause for a sec and plug it into power before we lose something. Yeah. 'Cause it's going to red. All right. Uh-oh. Back in the call. Back in one moment. Okay, we never edit the show, but I saw we basically were running off batteries like loose units. Yeah, absolutely. And baby panicked. And so we've plugged into power, feeling better. But no, I was trying to create a good ambiance of the office. The problem is that like when you set a candle It's like, and then go into an hour meeting, it's sort of hard to control.

Tommy: It depends on the smell of the Campbell— candle. Campbell smells. Campbell stinks, yeah. No, you— so the one we've got is, is my wife's, and it's, it's more of the sweeter side, and so they can become a bit annoying to the nostrils.

Josh: Yeah, and so my client did start, or our client did start to cough during the meeting and it was getting stronger and stronger, the smell.

Tommy: And so you thought it was the smell?

Josh: Well, definitely it was giving me— it was like starting to get into my throat a little bit as I was talking.

Tommy: But I mean, even Bodhi, when he wants to just be known— it's funny how we do these sort of subtle things. It's like if you see someone with something in their tooth and it sort of— and you start just touching your own tooth, it's like, well, it's like trying to pick it. 'Ugh!' Is that anyone else? Do you think it's just like in your head?

Josh: Yeah, I think that was a— there could have been a little bit of it, but it was a little bit. It's funny how the littlest things I can start to just think about. I'm like, maybe I should just say— do you think I should have just said, 'Do you want me to turn off that candle?' It's a hard one because you're trying—

Tommy: you're making the call to address whether it is that or not. May have had a cough. Yeah, it might have just had something in his throat. Or, I mean, if you feel it, you may as well do it. There's no harm in saying, yeah, mate, do you want me to blow that candle out? Is that like, is that why you're coughing?

Josh: But I was, uh, you'll remember when we got the office, one of the very first things that I was concerned about— do you remember what it was?

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of things you're concerned about. I've never seen the concern come to fruition, as in Oh, this gives me asthma. I don't know, like, you know how you say this gives me asthma?

Josh: I would say it's about your deodorant because you would spray it everywhere.

Tommy: But even like blue lollies.

Josh: Yeah, I mentioned that today and you're using it as ammo. I tell you a personal storey of my childhood that I couldn't have blue lollies and you bring it out on this show.

Tommy: It's a sore point for Josh. Um, no, but what else? Can we do a test though? So everything you think gives you asthma.

Josh: You spray deodorant in my face while I eat a blue lolly and we see if I die? Is that the idea?

Tommy: What I'm trying to say is—

Josh: Would you do that to someone who's got like anaphylactic?

Tommy: Definitely not, because it's, it's a legitimate concern. My point is this I don't think is a legitimate concern. So test— it's like, um, for me as an asthmatic, I feel when I don't have an asthma pump, say if I went away and my chest starts to feel a little bit tight and I'm like, fuck, I don't have an asthma pump, I would be anxious about it and I would almost feel like it brings on my asthma. I don't think it's legit that it is doing that. It's my worry and anxiety around it that sort of feels like induces it. But is it in your head is what I'm saying for these things? Is— because I've never seen you use a Ventolin. Asthmatics, it's a serious condition and you shouldn't joke about it.

Josh: Did you have the purple preventative?

Tommy: I had purple, I had orange, I had—

Josh: and now we now arguing about who had worse asthma. Is that really what it's gotten to?

Tommy: The asthma pub? Uh, did you have an asthma attack? Because I did.

Josh: I went to hospital. Okay, I went to hospital too because I was bitten by a white-tailed spider and it gave me asthma forever after that. Okay, this is true. Why?

Tommy: If you're a doctor, and why do spiders give you asthma? Is that even a thing?

Josh: It's absolutely true. And the other thing too is, would you have the one that was actually like, you'd put the Ventolin or whatever into, um, like a machine and then you'd wear the mask?

Tommy: Had that many times.

Josh: How many times? How often? Every day?

Tommy: No, no, I've had it a bunch of times. I had it every day.

Josh: How long? Oh, it would have been a couple of years of my life. And every day. And I'd also, um, every time I had it—

Tommy: look, you're more unhealthy than I am, so you can win this one.

Josh: I had a furry friend, Cadbury chocolate, every time. And so maybe I was probably—

Tommy: maybe I was overdosing, anchoring the illness with a caramel koala. Caramello koala.

Josh: That was caramel. It was actually quite a simple—

Tommy: no, it's chocolate. It's full-on. I mean, it's no laughing matter, asthma. But I don't know if, uh, deodorant actually gives you asthma or not.

Josh: I think it's—

Tommy: I mean, if you, um, we can do a test and we'll have a paramedic on standby.

Josh: Now this is the thing, if you ever go into your bathroom, yeah, and you clean, do you ever wipe up like the, um, basin or whatever and you see like white powder, uh, like as in deodorant? Never. Really? What's there? Never.

Tommy: You should— dude, it's called dust and dirt.

Josh: Where does dust and dirt come from?

Tommy: The fucking sky, the windows, the train line. The sky. It's like there's dust in the air right now. It's like, how do you think a house gets dusty when there's no—

Josh: I reckon deodorant is a big cause of dust. It's not the same.

Tommy: Deodorant is not dust. It's not a can of dust. It's a can of aerosol and it's a—

Josh: and it has I hope Nikos agrees with me. Yeah, slightly.

Tommy: But where does it go when you spray it on you? Yeah, where does the dust go? How does the dust— when I stick a can up my—

Josh: does all of the dust go on the ground, or is there dust under your arm? Okay, imagine you change the word deodorant to paint.

Tommy: Well, you've changed it to dust.

Josh: Yeah, no, but the thing is, if you spray a can of paint under your arm— okay, so I think the better— that goes everywhere around the bathroom. It's called overspray. Overspray.

Tommy: No, but it's completely different because when you put it onto your underarm, it doesn't coat your underarm with a color. So inside, so paint is a thing and paint is put into an aerosol can and then sprayed out. So I get that you can get some dusting from fucking like a little bit of white stuff from if you just hold it on the same spot, but you can't compare it to a paint can. A paint can is Inside of a paint can is paint. In a spray can is paint mixed with aerosol.

Josh: And so what is deodorant? Uh, it's— you keep saying aerosol. What is aerosol?

Tommy: So aerosol is a gas, isn't it?

Josh: It's a pressurised gas.

Tommy: Yeah, it's a pressurised gas which is see-through, and then you're spraying it. My point is—

Josh: why do you keep looking at me? I don't know.

Tommy: My point is it's not dust, dude. It's not a can of dust.

Josh: I think it is. Are you talking about like a white film? So aerosol is—

Tommy: I will agree with you, there is particles within an aerosol can.

Josh: Oh, what the fuck? The fuck is dust if it's not particles?

Tommy: But it's, it's, it's, it's like saying fucking the air is dirt. It's not the same thing.

Josh: The air holds dirt.

Tommy: Pollen off a tree is not dirt in the sky. That's what you're saying.

Josh: But pollen could be dust. If you're in your house, if you're in your house and you're like, oh, it's a bit dusty, there's probably a mix of all different things including pollen.

Tommy: Look, I don't think the, the there is a dust layer. But as a fellow asthmatic, I think you—

Josh: it should be a fair thing to say I'm not going to, um, to spray. Yeah, but the other day I actually said, hey, I want you to spray.

Tommy: Yeah, because I stunk.

Josh: Yeah, you had it.

Tommy: I mean, when you've got levels like I do of testosterone, yeah, it's hard.

Josh: I mean, the thing— this is— I mean, we've, uh, early episodes we spoke about this, but your, your thoughts on the reason I sometimes have BO is because of my testosterone.

Tommy: No, I've never said that.

Josh: I think you have said that.

Tommy: I'd never give you that. Huh? I can't remember ever saying that.

Josh: No, I'm saying that you say that. You say the reason that I stink sometimes is because I'm pumping a lot more testosterone.

Tommy: Clearly I'm fucking around.

Josh: Yeah, but the thing is it also happens on the days that you just forget to put deodorant on.

Tommy: Nah, mate, I fucking put deodorant on every day.

Josh: I feel like if I didn't wear deodorant, I would stink too. I think everybody would. Yeah, I know some people stink, but some people put the crystal— your mum smells nice and she just uses a big crystal. Does she? Just use a salt crystal.

Tommy: You getting personal with my mum? Was that a bit of dust?

Josh: No, your mum, I think, uh, I'm pretty sure you told me about that.

Tommy: No, when we were young growing up, she doesn't anymore. It was like a weird crystal rock that you'd wet, salt crystal that you'd wet a bit and then rub under your arm. I mean, I've got as much faith in that product as I do in eco-friendly dishwashing detergents. Like, it feels like it— if you went into a hospital and it smelled like eco-friendly stuff, would you trust it?

Josh: I wouldn't know the difference. No, I know, but the point is they—

Tommy: the ones that kill stuff, like bleach and shit. Yeah, it's more when you sniff it, it smells like flowers versus it smells clean, like a serious fucking cleaning agent.

Josh: Have you started using the face wash that Zoe Foster-Blake gave us?

Tommy: Nah, unlike you who has used your girlfriend's facial products. Oil, yeah, it was an oil. And then you get some free ones and then ban her from using them. Amy had actually had some product before and then has now stolen mine.

Josh: Well, yeah, no, so there was the oil, there's the face oil. Yeah, I need to put that on. Which is good, that's like, like, uh, I haven't put it on for like 2 days, uh, but I haven't had ingrowns. Uh, no, so I haven't had any ingrowns on my face since. I reckon this is part of it, people saying you need to wash your beard better. Yeah, and, uh, I've only ever washed my face like 2 times in my life, like actively been like, oh, I wash my face, and it's both times when I've gotten go-to stuff because it's actually like you can put it in your eye. Like, you can't get Like, I think most dudes would just use body wash. 100%.

Tommy: What if they wouldn't use anything and they only use something when someone's left something in the shower? I mean, Dyl's got an array of things. I know. I mean, I literally would— haven't bought a, uh, like a body wash in years. I mean, I just use Amy's. My— so my wife buys stuff all the time, so there's stuff.

Josh: Well, you use a female deodorant.

Tommy: Yeah, it's so much better than the male stuff. The male stuff smells like you're at a local soccer club ready to go and fucking get lost.

Josh: But you liked— you were saying that you liked 3D Dills deodorant and Noir.

Tommy: So it's anything that's got like a bottle. Adidas do one too. No, no, no, I would never use that.

Josh: I feel like when you first came to Australia, I saw that you had— is it Axe? No, it's, it's a Bath and Body Works brand. Okay. Yeah, because Axe is a lot of fucking chemicals and shit. Axe is like Lynx here in Australia. That's what they call it. Not ideal. Um, anyway, uh, so we're in Geelong. We're gonna, uh, head off, uh, very soon.

Tommy: Yeah, this has been an impromptu episode at the deck. Can we eat something now?

Josh: We can't.

Tommy: I mean, they offered us. Yeah, but we could get a parmi. That'd be good. Oh, that sounds— that'd be a nice way to finish off. Yeah, awesome. Finish off the shoot.

Josh: It's a daily talk show. The hoodies are on their way. We have a date, Friday next week. Dion, our printer, is going to have them all set for us. 97 is working on the packaging so that on Friday they go in the bags, they get sent off. You're also emailing everyone, aren't you? I want to make sure that this is the most professional.

Tommy: This is not an operation that we could scale, but at this point it's It's a must.

Josh: I just don't want this to be like the stickers because people are paying their coin.

Tommy: I mean, I've got faith because you're not in charge of this promise.

Josh: No, well, I'm leading the way. I'm making sure I am the project manager and scrum master. Anyway, it's a daily talk show.

Tommy: Thank you, Ross, for letting us use the deck shepherd. Yeah, and Shades, BMAC, whichever one you want, mate. We love you. Thanks for being our hype man.

Josh: No, very much appreciated. It's The Daily Talk Show, hi@thedailytalkshow.com. We're back in the studio tomorrow, so if you do send an email, we will get to it. Absolutely. And if you're enjoying the show, this is a bit different to the guest episodes, as you can see. Yeah, feel free to screen grab, share it on your Instagram accounts, maybe take a photo if you've got like a nice car, if you're listening in a Porsche. I mean, we'll take a Datsun. Yeah, 200B or whatever they call it. We'll take anything, iPod Touch.

Tommy: I mean, your dad's bloody—

Josh: what is it? No, not El Camino. I think he sold the El Camino. Uh, Impala. Oh, the Impala.

Tommy: Imagine that on the dash. Yeah, just even an iPhone just mounted. Yeah, that'd be nice.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, good brand integration.

Tommy: But does your dad listen? That's— has your dad listened to the show?

Josh: I don't know if he knows how. I, I did— I set it up on my mum's car. Oh, that's nice. Uh, but that was a year and a half ago.

Tommy: As long as you subbed so we get an automatic download, I'm happy with that.

Josh: Very much so. It's a daily talk show. We'll see you tomorrow, guys. See you guys.