#256 – A Broken Nose/

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conversation, sometimes worth recording, with Josh Janssen and Tommy Jenkins

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daily Talk Show Episode 256 It's Tuesday. Here in Melbourne. It is 3:30pm we've just been doing stuff with our roof.

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While we were trying to shield out the hate and the lies we're talking about. We will be soon making some changes to the show. Josh is will no longer be with this.

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I'll be replaced with a mouse. Not a not an actual not like an animal mouse but of a computer mouse. Yeah. Which has a little bit more personality Josh is not going anywhere. But

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would you you know, the, as I say like you can in the future could be a potential of taking your personality just basically you downloading you into sort of some computer system or putting into some sort of doll would you adult? Okay, so yeah, like maybe in the future it's a legit robot. Yeah. Or they can download into a new person. would you would you be into that? Is that something Are you like,

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with Mother Nature? I don't think we made another Josh or

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it would be

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well there would be just you you'd be dead and then be a new one. So it'd be like saying be duplicated. Well if you're gonna die so this is the thing it's like to take your body take you take Josh and put it into a new body because your shell has basically it's all just fuck, and it's useless you into that?

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No, I make it it sort of gives me a bit of panic.

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When it actually happens the panic that will feel like seeing yourself or as a robot it's you everything you say like it knows all of you know static moments in life. It knows that moment in the shower when you were exploring thanks to Mrs. Who It was a teacher.

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Can you understand how like those sentences together without hearing the story? Now I know what you said was when your younger self when you were experimenting in the shower, what was your teachers name again?

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gonna close the loop of that statement. Yeah, what was the name?

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I didn't know it was an older an older lady who

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in sex ed had given us all this information. Yeah. And gave

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some Josh some instructions. But it wasn't it wasn't extrapolated from the pace of information that was handed over. Yeah. Which was your mail j spot?

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Tommy written caving?

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Normally we talk about this near the end of the episode. If they're just joining us, it got a bit weird. It To be clear the way that you position that was that the teacher was involved? No, I

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was gonna say I was gonna say the teacher's name. And then I was gonna then reiterate what? That she just gave you a piece of information. You make me

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feel hot? Do I feel I feel a bit sort of my

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Imagine if that teacher

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she would be dead?

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Oh, actually, that's what we did on the show many times. Yeah.

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And then

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someone better bet they did. And we looked now 60. But they've looked the same age forever. So you we just thought that they definitely all this fucking potentially did. You're saying changes to the show. You can show people hanging? Well, we've just been sort of making some amendments to the office trying to work out how we can do this and stream or even just record video version of this shot, which is a really sounds I just do it. There's so many elements.

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I reckon it's more reverb in this room today. Do you think that because we've moved all the furniture around? I don't know. Like a cruise like an echo. Yeah, maybe sensing. I mean, you've got the headphones on. I can hear them. I hear a lot. Well, but

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it's interesting sort of getting externals, external people's opinions on these kind of things. So if you're listening, and you have any thoughts on us recording it, yeah, the video

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yeah, video. I don't have to watch the video. But we we had conspiracy. Jimmy walk past? Yeah, watch, you know, we got him to CPE. And we asked him to come and sit on a couch so we could see what it'd be like if we sat on a couch as us and a guest. Yeah,

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he wasn't a fan. Well, it's very close. The hard thing is like even looking at a talk show, right? You see, like Jimmy Fallon or Jimmy Kimmel, the body of facing the audience. So they're creating something that's out with facing to the camera and the audience, which is not normal. You don't catch up with a mate. And see, unless you're on a hill, looking at fireworks and drinking beers, maybe feels like that, but then you don't have an audience. So it's all it's very much weird. And the and the thing with a lot of podcasts or interviews, where we're just looking at each other, and the cameras are just looking at us looking at each other. You can't look at the camera. And so we want to maybe invite you guys in as like, the person that we are actually looking at, which I think feels more personal. Yeah. Let's just

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try it. But yeah, so we were today. You were standing on a high desk within a chair to be able to basically we've got a what's it called Scarlet skylines that has been retrofitted.

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Was that mine retrospectively fitted, retrofitted? Just it's been. It wasn't here before and it got installed.

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I think that's a complicated word. I'm trying to, you know, I keep saying, Have I made myself clear as a title of the book that I'm reading at the moment. It's Do I make myself clear, which is a bit ironic, you now have made yourself retrofits and component or accessory to something Oh, sorry, add adding a component or accessory to something that did not have it when manufactured. So that was retrofit Yeah. retrofitted to our office.

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And and it helps is a lot of natural lights. Lovely.

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But we're trying to block it so we can control the light because it gets fucking hot in here. Yeah. And for the filming, and we want to make sure we control the one being controlled talking about the hate. We got an email from a listener Jenny, who is from Siberia, and she was saying that it is currently minus 35 degrees Celsius in Siberia. I've watched those dangerous, like most scary prisons on Earth,

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documentaries, like in Siberia, there's one I've watched that was in Siberia knows this prison. And it's like, snow acting so cold. These poor bastards actually probably deserve it. They probably all locked up for a good reason. Or in prison. But that's I mean, when I think of Siberia, I think of like just cold, like super super. Like where it's probably not where most people would travel to. And it's the place that you could probably go to where you can do the thing where you throw like water into the air and it freezes

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because you don't get that in the world to do like so we just

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got us up here every show Jenny, can we come over to just throw some water up into the air to save it? For the Tommy hits the ground? What if it's cold enough for that?

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Is it even a thing? Can you send us a video Jenny if you're doing it guess what time it is. So it's 3:35pm here in Melbourne. Guess what time it is in Siberia. I reckon

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it's like something like one I am not nice. No idea. Now what is it?

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11:35am issue?

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I mean, not that I'd have any idea of my Sabir in my support. My Siberian clock's just slightly guys slightly next week. Oh, it will be re corrected.

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The Do you consider yourself a handyman?

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reckon if I reckon where if I'm next you? Yes. If I'm next to someone like Tom, who owns the art gallery next door, I'm a piece of shit. He like, I look up to people who are handy men and the women. I don't think

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people I don't think you're that handy.

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Definitely not that handy. But I'm handy the new

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so. But I think I'm probably more confident with handy thing. The fact now my economic change, I'm more confident that you can do it than you are. You won't even you were saying now we're not. We're not going to be able to cover up that. That skylight and what if we know

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not that we couldn't just, it was all about working at what we could do to cover

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your thinking where to go and buy stuff. We didn't have

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office yet. We didn't have to leave the office because I bought something so long ago that I don't use anymore that we can now use. It's like a black backdrop for film. Yeah.

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And I've used it a couple of times. But now it's it's perfect. Yeah,

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it works. Well. Yeah.

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When I was young, I would I was willing to building shit as well. I started out building you know, little castles with sticks. Like what are they called? Ice cream sticks ice cream. Hi. Yeah, so ice cream sticks out build these forts. You know? Did you remember the drop door? 40 building primary school do you get around that?

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No. But I do remember in kindergarten having getting the ice Paul sticks this M Yeah. And what did you call them? The ice cream sticks. Do you remember? Remember? Dr. Go my first ever doctor. He would use a Dr. Garrow. Dr. Singh. He was Dr. Seeing actually you you wouldn't know

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my first doctor.

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Like it legit. I thought it was some character. No, no

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as even when I was a kid, your first job? My first JP Yeah, yeah. General Practitioner yet not gay partner.

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That was a joke when we're in primary school. jP jP, was that sample gay partner. Now what? what context would you use to know just dumb school kids? What does is they don't know what Jay.

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So they were actually someone would say JP,

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know, they would use the ice cream sticks your tongue, but they would use like the Magnum style ones are actually gonna be to remember that. Yeah. But then I say going to another gap. And he was using the standard ones. Anyway, my point is that I would use them those sticks. And I would wrap a single sheet of masking tape from one side to the other and then do it around the other way. And me and my mates would pretend to submit.

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Did you ever do that me

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my mates would just go and buy CDs singles when we were about grade four or five single What do you mean by single? completely illegal selling singles. That's illegal also, but singles much like one cigarette? Like some places you can legit? Actually, you can't because it is illegal to do it in Australia selling and a single cigarette from a packet that used to just sell them for $1. And remember, we just went down. So while you're doing that with ice politics, I was actually we used to do things called Bakkies. Which were back from a tree that was look at look like a cigar at the end of that, so damn,

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discussions are dumb shit.

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kids do dumb shit. And I did a lot of dumb shit. But the one thing I did build, which I was obsessed with doing was my own homemade pinball machine. Fuck off. Yeah, so what you do you get two nails,

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like nail them on it without a really shitty pinball machine? Hundred percent. Okay,

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definitely shoot.

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Like it had led line.

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Wasn't that heavy, but we built like, ramps. My dad built the good ramps. So in terms of being handy, definitely know how to use drill. Like, you know, know how to drill things. I installed all those shells at the back by myself. Not the ones we built. But the ones the ones on the actual wall.

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How was I? So we we did a bunch of installed for shells? Yeah,

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I mean, these are these are you buy them you like that's great. You see the display item you like fact this will be easy when you get back and I just hadn't comprehended the I know that we had do it. But I hadn't comprehended needing to actually install them. And it took hours. It's just It took hours just based on Eric and someone fast might have cut off half an hour.

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But we still you learn how to do the first one. And you learn all this man mistakes. We spent so much time on the first one we been to one of the middle there you bet one in the middle of it. Don't blame me. It was a joint effort. I think

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it was learning at how they because it didn't have any screws. It was all just like clipping shit. So it was annoying, but I'd like that's I mean, that's handy. I don't go towards doing that shit or rather actually use like soaring shit. But my brother is super handy. And the guy who built this wall in our office we've got this beautiful pallet wall where I sourced all of these old pallets the source

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I stole

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a lot of them afraid I asked a bunch of businesses what is a

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property of like

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laws can look at laws, Kim was a look up laws cameras of business. So I went around, and I videoed myself picking up these and I checked them into the back of my old car and they're just like what they'd find at the supermarket without like big boxes, big box orders that go on the forklift. It's basically those things and they're all old hardwood timber and some like stained some have like logos still on them so we did that and the dude who built who actually I broke all of them apart and then he actually sold them and made them made them made sense of it all and build the wall but like that's fucking

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I love it's going to take your head off to people that can do that sheer because we'd be fact if we get lost in the bush I would like to be better at hiking what are the what are the areas in life that you don't feel comfortable in that you feel that you're a fish out of water?

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I mean camping like the the thing that we don't do I used to watch a lot as a kid but we but how often do you do it? Like actually camping be efficient in fending for yourself outside of ordering Uber rates from be fine like going camping stuff we walked for? Can't had a less applies cooked food. I know we could do it. But that's a fish out of water. If you haven't done it When have you ever done it? I know.

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I would like to do it you I think you were suggesting that Bry Amy, you and I do it with was that pre Bodhi?

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That was pre Bodhi because now we legit need to tense because we need one for him. And one for body because he wants sleep in our own 10 he was he requires another 10 100% he's little king.

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He do you think like if you were if you had to camp? Yeah, I'd really have to tents? Or isn't that unsafe? Someone could during the night just come and fucking steal your kid. Yes, it's the same as a room. But no, it's not the same as a room it's the equivalent of saying that you kid lives away from home.

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I mean yeah, we don't want to take buddy camping. Especially because dad doesn't know camp probably the thing I feel with camping and all these things in an outdoor activities. You need the right gear and that's not using gear as excuse. But otherwise you're in trouble. Like what's going on? You haven't we should do this dude. It's so outside of the comfort zone by sought to swag. You know, we're not buying double swag. You can get the fuck out of my swag. So by individual swag swag is like a no think about like, candy along the billabong. You know? Under the billabong bill.

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Under the billabong

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bill betray it's a it's a top of Australian trip is it you also have your Billy don't Yeah, that's

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what I was getting. Is that why?

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But so think of a bargains youth. And on the back, you may have seen this rolled up thing that looks like a mattress that's been rolled up. It could be camera looking. So basically they are a thin mattress that you it rolls out and it's almost like a little cocoon. So you can unzip it. You know this is this is Hang on. Know what I was trying to get at before you troll what I said it because I fucked it up was thinking about like some guy sleeping under a tree next to a river in an old swag. Swag.

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Was that what you were saying?

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It's a swag. So it's a little it's almost like a mini. It's like a cocoon for one person. And it's got like fly net and chic. And so you have a weekend go get 200 bucks, you get a single individual. So if we bought one of those, we had our gear, and we go and go for a walk into the wilderness. And we find a nice little spot. The good thing is about like Victoria or anywhere actually going up to the Northern Territory and stuff is dingoes and shit. But we've got nothing other than snakes down there fact, we just won't go middle of summer when the snakes are so rapid. Thank you and I will go we don't have to worry about bears and shit like you wouldn't Siberia. Siberian tigers are their thing. But we don't have to worry about in this shit. And we go out and just legit disconnect. No phones, nothing. And we go and stay far out. Just quiet. It's not like I think I want it maybe that's the guy I want to be is the person who actually goes out for adventures. Take some fishing

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rods I feel like we need an extra person. Why? So that there is the person who knows who can instill or bring the input their information and share it with us. Yeah, because otherwise it's just too fucking gronk

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I would say I'm I'm competent and capable in

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making shit up

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know, building the campfire, setting up all of the sleeping situation, finding the right spot to do it. Understanding based on what I've been I've built fires and Gone Camping before I say you have gone before. Yeah, in a very long time. Like, I haven't done it in a very long time. Which means you can't say you're the guy just because you've been, you know, a dozen times, but it doesn't mean you're a fucking camper. It's like,

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what are some of the things that we wouldn't be able to camp on? Like, what are the considerations? you to think of? This is where you're going to think about

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so water flow if something happened.

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That's what I was gonna say. I've never been camping. I'd say we gotta be careful about flooding. Yeah,

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flooding else. And trees and overhanging trees. Could something fall and crush you.

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Friend of mine, he's parents on their honeymoon. This can be a fun story. They find their life because my friends alive though he wouldn't be alive if they weren't alive.

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They were born so that is just listen to

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the story. They went camping for their honeymoon. Tree came down onto their tent and almost factum up and so my friends here because they got through the honeymoon. And now they're so dumb. What did you think your sounds like?

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What so the kid was in the tent with?

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That's something I think about taking body like yeah, I the place where I last camped of camp there a couple of times. Huge eucalyptus trees, Australian native tree. And the windy is fact like windy. Blowing like, a branch could come down like we heard. And one did come down. And we're all camping there. He's one thing you don't do if you go camping. Jules land take someone's direct can and thrown onto the fire. Yeah,

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that would be no I remember. School camp, people throwing dumb shit into fires. That being a big thing. Do you would not have that nowadays? It's too, too risky. Well, did you hear the story of the gender reveal party that someone had in California? They this was a couple of months back now. But they basically had a small explosive go off to reveal quarter file with $8 million.

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Yep.

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But it's a cool story for the kid. Imagine when the kid grows up? It's like yeah, I'm

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who pays for that?

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$8 million of damage.

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I know if insurance

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covers that sort of shoot. One thing in a in a lot of the National Parks is like complete fire bands. So it's like you got the right time when it's like getting cooler. So it's out of the five bands is fire season band fire band, just a period of time within Victoria, or New South was all over. But yeah, I like I was looking at my mates Insta stories at the moment. And he's like, last night he walked up with these Sherpas, I think it must be in like, Guatemala or somewhere over in South America and Mexico. up in that sort of South American area. walked up to this volcano. And like so you can get to the edge of this wall kind of fucking high up. Yeah. An old school volcano that's still sort of simmering. And he camped right next to the volcano. He's

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Yeah, could we do like some form of hike? Could you and I do a hike and do some Docomo about it? We talked about the what's in PNG

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trial. Kodak Ricardo. Yeah, the hard one. I mean, there's been dude who have done it with no legs. But you and I, we've got asthma. Well, but you can

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do it. But I'm Mike Chris Nichols who was here this morning. He did it. He's done it. Yeah,

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he's done it. Because there's been a bunch of people have died from asthma. Because the, like the elevation that I reckon we could push through it.

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But you haven't had I mean, I don't if someone asked me Do you have asthma on site? No. All right, you're alive. If Do you think it's one of those things? If you've if you had asthma as a kid, you've always got asthma.

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Well, that's what they used to say. You can outgrow it. But they say you never outgrow. That's what I've read. There's never outgrow it, you might just never get it. I mean, I only have it when I've got a chest cold or some exercise. I'm just like, if I blow out doing some cardio, it can sort of trigger my asthma. There's bunch of stuff that can but it would be full on. It's a huge walk.

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What sort of holidays did you go on? when you're a kid?

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We used to go to a place called Flinders, which is only like an hour and 15 minutes away, we would get a VHS. But then we'd go to place called Mark Marlowe,

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which is like, how would you get a beach house? pre Airbnb?

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There's no phones to just log in with your app with a lockbox at

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the front door phones. I said no phone?

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No. back then. It was there was phone No, no. No smart. No, no color screen smartphones back when we were growing up. When will kids going those holidays. I remember clearly would go into the town. So before we'd get there, forget to the house go in. We go to the real estate agent. And we'd have to go into the real estate agent like I'd sell houses that rent houses and I do rentals

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wonder what that does to the real estate agents business like Airbnb. I wonder if it's wonder if that was a huge word. What would that be called? Like short stay accommodation? Something

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there is there's still a bunch of sites stays STI y Zed stays calm today is a purely holiday home rental. So yeah, I guess some people have fully leveraging the Airbnb model for their beach house. But there is you definitely got more of assurance getting going through the real estate agent. Right? So you would go for sure if you're the owner of the house renting, aka you know, you'd feel like Okay, so the real estate agents got this checks and balances. So it's all done. You don't have some dude saying that he's coming down for a family weekend and then has these box party. I did that. That's what we do. Really. Hi, this has been Blake Gary. And I connected up like all of the people who were staying It was like my my wife might seem to be watching and my mates girlfriend, my other nights girlfriend and my mates we put all of our email addresses so they got the itinerary so dodgy

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was this is pray. Because you and I this is right when we started becoming friends. So I wasn't didn't go to your wedding and go to your bucks party. What was your box party? Like?

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It's great. What you do?

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Probably? How many hours sleep maybe six hours sleep the whole weekend or the whole week? Yeah. What did you do? barbecuing

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both our brains and also the the

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MMO PayPal?

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That was the first night was was a band is probably 15 of us. second night people fell off. My mate went so hard on Friday night. And he paid for the whole weekend. So I just like I paid for it and people just checked in for all the money it

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would be saw show

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no it cost me a sheet of paper money. But that's that's the reality of these things. Someone has to front it up to make it happen to then potentially get money back. So were you organizing your own box, right? No, I organized the accommodation. What do they call it in the stag parties in the UK? stag hands? Marriage Bachelorette and bachelor party? Yeah. What do they call it in Siberia? I wonder? Yeah. Can you please can you Jenny, can you send us an audio recording of how they say

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it? Or Jenny? She sends one fucking email. Yeah,

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Jenny giving your outside we're in corresponded yet.

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That's what's happening. market. So we've got two things you need Sanders. does it end? Can you throw a glass of water into the air? It's minus 35 and will it freeze? And also what is box or Bachelorette bachelor bachelor bachelor parties, which is also a graphic designer. I was looking at work we need to get her to consult or help us design our new daily talk show logo. God that's timely. That's serendipitous it is. So yeah, the back spider mite went show how the first night and then was just vomiting and he was a mess and he fights no fights they my best mates.

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I had so when I when I used to play footy. Yeah, I had a fight with my own team member. It would have been like 13. Okay. Aki fighting with a guy named Neil peak. Was he's not Yeah,

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that's not good. Yeah.

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And so Neil, I don't know why he might contact you. Absolutely. Like we would like ended up on the ground punching grammar town. Yeah. Well, yeah. When you when someone's on top of you just pounding the shit out of your face. ground and pound. Well, I was I was quite a heavy kid. Which is probably like, hey, was making some smartass comments, so I feel like it's a heavier kid. I probably one. Yeah,

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it feels like and did.

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I had a soul leap and stuff. That was the only real fight outside of my brothers. My brothers and I would kick the shit out of it. Yeah,

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I've had my nose broken in the fight. Really? Yeah. You can't I had surgery. Bullshit. Well, it was just it was nice job.

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It was bent. You've had a nose job.

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Well, it's not exactly a nose job. I just put these sticks up and then crack it back in my face. Yeah, God punch me from behind. From behind when I was punching out with these made and then he just came from behind and wrapped his hand around and hit the side of my nose like that. And and it just moved it better.

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And what you

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can knows I just in South instantly, and would you say fucking ran off like a bitch. And I went in and grabbed the kitchen knife. And then someone stopped. It was

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wild. How old? She grabbed the kitchen knife. Yeah. You're a maniac. Yeah, it was a bit of its lucky that you didn't

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later in life.

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Did you really have Is this the one at the pool

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is the problem. You punch up someone later and you break your fucking hand on their face. I thought there's no benefit to fighting it. Unless it's for money for sport. I'm surprised

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you ended up. Do you have any criminal record? You don't

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know? No. That's very lucky. Yes. Because you couldn't get into the states couldn't get into Canada. That's not true. I know guy who went to jail. He probably didn't put a nice dude. He held up a fucking bank with a knife and was wearing a kitchen cooking glove. He was off his face on

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what so you think that the cooking glove bit is like, How could you let someone into your country?

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But I know he went all over America after he got a job. He is lighter.

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Wonder if it's because it was a dream. gronk offense. Maybe they didn't put it on the robbery. You're saying Yeah, because even if you're on drugs, sometimes they can say I don't know if this is an Australian thing as well. But I feel like the USA like this is going to be looked after by the drug courts. And so you go through a program. Oh, man, it's

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it's crazy. how strict on us. I was surprised when I saw photos of him over there. I was like,

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I bet you he just literally didn't take the box. The box and

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got the Ester. Yeah, then he's like cuz that's all you have to do.

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bit dodgy? Well, here's the thing, right? I've had I've had fingerprints taken before. But the what I heard was, unless she convicted they have to get rid of them. I really yeah. Oh, that's handy. Not I mean, handy. If I'm going to commit some crimes. I can't go into moving forward. But definitely moving forward moving

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forward from today.

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Yesterday, but I've been thinking about myself as the person that like I got that eBay and the lot about who was coming. Like, like, right now. I reckon I've had a transition the last couple of years. From rat to possum. Have I helped?

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Come on? Give me some credit?

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Definitely. Haven't you baby? Definitely the podcast so then definitely you've helped was a podcast I think just I think the podcast is forced me to think a lot more about my thinking. I think I did the differences. I didn't verbalize my thinking this. When you age days, like say, you know and talk and off the cuff. You know, tell stories and think about how you thought about that or why you did that. I've definitely found myself less bullish in terms of just being thoughtless.

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You told the fucking squeegee story up the top. Yeah,

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I mean, there's some things that

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slip back in.

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But I Yeah, I definitely think I wouldn't have a problem with trying to sort of like I'd be more worried about like, the factory of having this person if like the owner rocks up to the house and sees all these people can be fact I wouldn't be I would pay the money to get the place where we can all go.

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And I would hate If I'd known that you'd bullshit it. I would have felt uncomfortable there. Yeah,

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no, I don't think anyone did. He has a great fucking great box. Right and

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a lot of that

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got a lot of that. I mean, the good things like one of my mates who who's now sober he was there in full swing. So it was like a good one to send it off. And I'm not trying Hey, ended up

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going into I you're doing the whole shebang after box. Between your body and him. Going to a good six months. Okay. It was

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more months. Still go with a good natural another six months.

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But it was still at the same property.

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extended the lace? Yeah.

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Did a tour of America. Yeah. Yeah.

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Anyway, it's a daily talk show. Are we done? Yeah. We're off to the gym. Yeah, we get Yeah. Wolf wolf wolf for hire for daily talk. show.com. If you want to send us an email, and if you've come this far, this is this has just been one of those casual shows. So yeah, it's a good time to ask people to rate and review us

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on iTunes, the podcast app. Interesting. Can you review on any other platform? I've never downloaded any other podcast now other than the one that comes with you.

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You know what, if you can review at least send us an email? Yeah. Hi at the daily talk. show.com

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where are you listening from? And how did you come across our show the other two questions that we have for you. And can you send us a video if it's cold of you throwing water into the air and at freezing? Not give them so much? I'm not sure where you're from? And How'd you find us? Yeah, yeah.

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I haven't. Come on you guys.