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Is the daily Talk Show Episode 715. And this is a very special episode. It's a two parter. To start with we've got Pete Murray. And this was probably the highlight of the 24 hour show. The grumps got to share an incredible moment when paid, played his song opportunity for us is something that will remember forever. Then after that, we've got Hamish Blake and his cat meow bit

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ruining

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my good.

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Thank you How many?

Josh Janssen 0:36
How many of you on the show might? How many live streams? Have you done like this before? just done

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a couple of Instagram. Nothing on zoom. So you guys are first ones. Okay, great, man.

Tommy 0:49
This is amazing. I can imagine you've been in quite a few green rooms over your time. Can you give us a rundown of what the experience was like before you entered this? That's our version of a green room. You know,

Josh Janssen 0:58
Charles? What was the experience just reviewing

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what you guys made a lot of other green rooms just for asking this question first to see where you are now look

Josh Janssen 1:11
we went to the we did a for the fires. We did something at the SP in Melbourne. It was the first time we ever got to the green room experience. And we were going advantage paid Yeah, we took

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advantage. Did you did you do? Did you draw a penis on the wall? Pretty much most people

Josh Janssen 1:32
I thought that was like a huge industry thing.

Unknown Speaker 1:36
Pretty much it or Yeah, it seems to be an industry thing. I don't know why I mean, I'm not saying that I do that but every green room that I've been to has a penis and a set of balls on the wall. So and there's quite a few that have lots of those on the wall. So I guess that seems to be the you know, especially for the you know, for the grantees saying when you when you

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first Just starting off and applying some of the smaller rooms. That's kind of pretty standard.

Tommy 2:04
Yeah. I know you were involved in some bushfire relief fundraisers, how much cash did you help raise amongst your colleagues?

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With the lightest relief, because it's

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a no. 1 million, something like that.

Josh Janssen 2:23
That's outrageous. Oh, sorry. Good. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 2:27
I just got the tsunami, which is 2004 that might have been the SVG. And once again, that probably raised I think, you know, six or 7 million I think for that. There was some back then, you know, mineral playing was with Pat a finger, Missy Higgins from Butler. It was kind of when I first kicked off, and it was really great to be part of that. Heath Ledger was over there for it as well. So I got to meet Keith.

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It was you know,

Josh Janssen 2:56
what is your favourite venue in Australia to play

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Ah, you know,

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they really got indoors and you got outdoor venue. So the

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outdoors It was fun, you know.

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I had it. There was a little little venue in, in Melbourne. And for the Lochner category, it's cold out it's on Nicholson Street. I think it's closed down, but it had basically had you would, you know, feed 100 people. And when I first moved to Melbourne to play these shows, so sorry, guys, I just can't get this anywhere. It's cool, but I used to go there and play to you know, 20 people, and it was a good crowd for me. So, when things started blowing up, I Went, went back and I would do actually just a couple of secret shows at this little venue that had like the Red Velvet curtains and, you know, just a couple of little tables in the room and a couple little candles and it's just a beautiful spot.

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That was kind of like what I want to play live you know, indoors outdoors

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there's many places I feel like

Josh Janssen 4:09
I saw you perform years ago at like, the Melbourne Zoo or something like that I remember like it was like a twilight like show which was awesome yeah the outdoor

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anything around sunsets fantastic. You know you just have that great mood any sunsets going down and it's just like it's incredible. You know, you have done I did a show in in Sydney. That's wrong. And that was pretty amazing because you've got the you know that that real estate there is incredible. You've got the backdrop is a bridge and then you've got Sydney it's really amazing place so that's probably Yeah, would be one of the top spots to play.

Tommy 4:49
Yeah. In terms of your sense of I could imagine you kind of bring in the same energy to wait show but when you have less in the crowd, say got 20 people, what's the difference between 20 and 20 Thousand in terms of your experience as a performer

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sometimes 20 people's more intimidating because they're so close to you, they can see what you're doing. They can hear everything that you're saying, when you're playing to a big crowd, it's you can you know what I used to do when I first started having success applying to large crowds. I was scared to think, you know, you'd walk out and they'd be 10,000 or 15,000. We'll be playing a lot with a lot of people. They're packed in, attend to wherever you are. And I suddenly go, okay, I've just got to think of this, this as one big fat person rather than that, so that kind of made me relax and have a bit of a laugh because I

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don't think this significance is one big threat to watching.

Josh Janssen 5:52
And one of the reasons why we George, our producer, executive producer, reached out was because I had been mentioned, like I mentioned on the show we did a bit where it's like, what are you listening to at the moment. And every single I just got a Google Home in my bathroom. And so every morning I wake up and I say I google play Pete Murray. And sometimes I say opportunity. Sometimes I just let it spin whatever it whatever, it's, it's going. So it was awesome. It's amazing that you're here and we really appreciate you giving your time. What are you listening to at the moment?

Unknown Speaker 6:34
Oh, you know what, I've been listening to a lot of my new mixes we just got a new music coming out since I've been once you start to do a new project, it's kind of hard to to check anything else out, you know? You've got to get focused on your own music and actually put it right. What I do love is good friend of mine is Ben. How are we like Ben stuff is a great songwriter. And, you know, we we first played together over in the UK years ago. And I didn't know who then was he wasn't very well known, but I was headlining this festival. And Ben was supporting me over there. Lovely gone. And you know, a couple years later, I had kind of lost touch with him. And a friend of mine said, Oh, have you heard this? This guy? It's fantastic. Ben Howard. As an intellectual play, the guy called Ben Howard is again, I tend to be the sound guy, so he just exploded, you know? And great, really unique style the way he plays I think he's guitar. And yeah, so listen to him most the time.

Tommy 7:37
Yeah. I mean, when I listen to your voice playback to me, I love it. And I think what a voice when you listen to you pay when you are in that process of doing a new album. What's the internal monologue about paid Mary's voice playing to Pete Mary? What? It's an obscure question, but what do you are you beyond that

Unknown Speaker 7:59
and beyond that, I think early days you know, when you guys same thing whenever it hears themselves recording talking the first time you go, that's, that's not it sounds neat and suddenly you're the only person that thinks he sound really silly you know where you're normal to everyone else but and suddenly he yourself sing for the first time. It's a strange thing and doing the some of the first early demos was a tricky thing for me because you had to get used to that. And but now I'm kind of fine. You know where, where your voice sounds good. And, you know, what, what range kind of works well in and I guess I've been producing a lot of my own stuff for a long time. So I guess you get to know that and I'm so used to it. Now in doing this for nearly professionally for getting close to 20 years now.

Josh Janssen 8:49
It feels like there's something about your music that's very like moment based. Like whether it's in the car on a road trip or sort of like imagine Especially going into winter having sort of the fire going, do you? Do you get into that? Like do you want to play say your guitar and sing along in those types of environments or do you care that sort of vibe?

Unknown Speaker 9:13
You know, I am. I do love like a setting and where you where you have where I can play my music I had. I've done some played in a friend's place one time, it's just a crowd of maybe 10 people and they had fireplace going and you know, I've got some beautiful acoustic guitars now had an old 60s 12 string and just playing that in this messy big room, the acoustics sounded so good and the vocal sound is so great. You didn't need a PA you know, so that's such a great Bob playing but then playing with the band and playing you know, on a bigger stage and you've got whole things amped up, because I you know, I'm a big fan of both, you know, mellow acoustic songs and then also Some rocky stuff to like Neil Young was a big influence on me. Neil does he folky acoustic stuff. And then he's got the big, you know, the kind of the old rock band stuff that he that he played with too. And crazyhorse was a band. So, you know, for me, I love I love kind of mood music that has a groove to it. And you can feel a little bit of energy, the more that I've gone along with music now are kind of starting to get a little bit more groove happening in some of the songs. So, you know, for me, they're both great things. It's hard to sort of say one's better than the other, you know, like seeing their grandfather and getting the acoustic guitar because I did that for years. And now I'm lucky enough that I can play to a large crowd with the band Next,

Josh Janssen 10:43
you're actually the guy that when you bring out the acoustic guitar like you're impressed like this is sort of varying levels of the gut like the cliche guy with these guitar at the fireplace, right, like I feel like you've you've got the the ability to back it up, which is nice.

Unknown Speaker 11:00
Well, that's good. Appreciate that. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 11:06
I think a lot of my songs have, you know, I guess it's lyrical content that people connect to, as well. I mean, you mentioned opportunity. It's a great song for, you know, it's inspired a lot of people to make change and to get out of somebody that they're unhappy with me it was used in a lot of graduation Songs for Kids coming out of school to talk about, you know, like, what it's about, be happy in life, make sure you make the right choices and and don't sign somebody you know, not happy. And so it's really great. There's a long time I don't have to supply it now. I'm probably too old now for the schools that would not know him. But yeah, there was a generation few generations that basically came through and they were all going are you your song was the song that, you know, took us out of school and we grew up to answer it seems kind of nice to to be a part of your lives. And as your

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jail.

Josh Janssen 12:02
Exactly. Every morning.

Tommy 12:06
I mean, it's it's an ASO appropriate song. Right? I mean, have you seen? Do you have access to your Spotify numbers as an artist? I've always been curious about that.

Unknown Speaker 12:17
Yeah, I don't really I don't check that too much. I guess

Unknown Speaker 12:23
a lot of my fans, I think Spotify is kind of slowly taking off for a lot of my fans, but a lot of people have bought albums in the past and so they're my fan base is still too and we have a lot a lot of people coming to shows Spotify, it's probably not as big as a lot of younger acts that that the playing that have that following because they're the generation You know, they're into the Spotify, they understand I still have some friends of mine again, he had a Spotify web and we understand that you know, so it's slowly changing quickly because people have to get into it now because it's it's so handy. You know, you can just get anything you want. And but yeah, like I think I think my fan base is majority they've got albums of mine, but they will CDs or

Josh Janssen 13:10
LPs for you know, vinyl. So Spotify is changing I think I'm excited for, for this new new work so you know where I think we haven't really pushed the Spotify stuff before we're looking at actually getting into that and looking at getting on playlists and starting to work in that path. I remember when I was I was probably like 20 years old and I was like, I heard somewhere I think I read somewhere that you started playing guitar like later, like you were like, I think 20 something like early 20s and it sort of gave me all this. Yeah, it gave me this confidence to to have a crack because I wanted to fly when I was like, yeah, there still may be But yeah, I tried to play when I was a kid like when I was like five and then like my hands were too tiny. So they gave me a keyboard and I can hated it but So that's why I'm not a musician you say but, so that that is true. Like, how did you pick up? What was the first time you sort of picked up the guitar?

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It's us 16 guitar players rather than people.

Josh Janssen 14:17
Yeah, not even taking it. If I had to take a keyboard to a fire, you know, sort of, it's a bit pathetic. It's just like anyone got spare batteries because I'm running low, you know?

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They're probably gonna start another fire up. People.

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So, you know, I was 22 I so, you know, it's funny. I'm a big believer in, in in fight, you know, and I and I had a friend of mine, I was studying natural medicine. I was writing to sport that was my wife was doing athletics. I was playing rugby, and studying natural medicine. So what I wanted to do, were my sport. inquiry was over. I wanted to get in and work with other sportsmen and women. So that's the path I was hitting 22 I had a friend of mine, he was studying, he was living together. He was doing teaching beats come into my room on one day and said, I'm going to get a guitar lesson. I've always wanted to learn the guitar, and I'm finally going to do something about it. And I thought, gee, that sounds pretty cool. I've never thought about doing music at all. That's never been any way. Not in my family. It just had nothing to do with it. And I thought that sounds great. I might do the same thing. So I borrowed a friend's guitar. And I went head three lessons, which I didn't learn much from because I just had knew nothing about it. But back then I didn't have the internet. So I took the teachers book, and I had to learn the chord shapes, you know, and that's how I taught myself how to play off the book. I went travelling overseas and then and then I met buskers around the world that just showed me different things and

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did you actually If you think of Tom pink,

Unknown Speaker 16:02
yeah, yeah, I took off and I went and bought my own guitar in LA when I was over there and went from LA cross enough to Canada, right across to Toronto and then over to the UK and through Europe and whole time when I took this time with me and I only I met other pastors. I didn't I wasn't quite good enough to bask but i the only time I bust back then when I still kind of learning a lot, a couple of new young songs and Bob Dylan songs, I guess the funny thing about it was in I was in Canada, and it was freezing cold. And my very first song busking and myself and a friend, we went down and got guitars and played a couple songs in the very first person came up to us and said, Hey, boys, he's $20 It's way too cold. Go home.

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So we went

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on Yeah, so we got $20 we went on, and the, you know, the experience of just doing random Learning of people coming back, you know, and then taking step further when I got back, I started to get into songwriting. And I was happy to kind of play some covers for a while and actually got a gig in Brisbane at a small little venue and did some covers. And I thought this was great. And after about three months, I thought this sucks big time. You plan to a bunch of drunks that want to do the same songs over and over. And I thought the only way I'm actually going to have a career in this is to run a song. So for about two years, I went and had the room downstairs, my house and I just sat there on slide. two gigs, awake products today and the rest of time I just wrote songs. And during that two years of write songs like so beautiful. And lines and things like that were quirky songs off the field around and went and did my first independent over the age of 30. And then, you know, put That out. And I remember doing interviews with guys saying, looking at what we think of the the fact that you know, if you will they say if you haven't made about Tommy 24 in the music industry never make it. What do you think about that? And I said, well, it's bullshit. If you write a good song, it's a good song, and it will find its way. So then, you know, after this will happen, everything sort of worked and things exploded. And just talking about what you said, and you really have, you know, have inspired you to, to do to play guitar and pick up chicks and stuff like that, which is, I don't know, right. So a lot of people who are in their 30s then started to message me and say, Look, you've inspired me because, you know, we didn't think it was possible to have success, you know, when you're mid 30s, and I think that was kind of also part of my story. You know, because it was like started. And you know, I did my first independent 30 and then feel it came out I was 32 so it was like it was that's like, and so that was for us like self to pick it up again. And you can do it. at any age, you just have to believe in yourself and believe that you've got the

Tommy 19:18
skill to do it kinda. Do you kind of think that you're glad that it happened? I mean, 30 you're kind of starting to find some maturity hopefully. Are you glad that it didn't happen at 22?

Unknown Speaker 19:32
Yeah, look, I was definitely a good handle. Handle fine really well, because it didn't affect me. I've never I've kind of really got my feet on the ground with that sort of thing. I don't know how it affects me when I was if I was in my 20s I might have thought I was pretty amazing. Who knows, you know, when you're 20 you kind of you do think you're pretty amazing. Anyway, Mr. 97.

Josh Janssen 19:54
Good example is 20 an absolutely outrageous

Tommy 20:00
I'm surprised. Ask Pete married a play to your 21st birthday.

Unknown Speaker 20:04
Yeah, that would be

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when you're, when you're 20 you think that you're pretty amazing. So I think it's

Unknown Speaker 20:25
you, I think if you're bulletproof, nothing's gonna take you down. And I think as you get older and smarter kids and stuff really starts to hit you. Whatever happens, you know, you becomes tougher and you know if that's the challenge Start to begin.

Tommy 20:41
I know like, I feel musicians need to sort of build some thick skin around people that don't like their music because everyone's a critic these days. What do your kids think of your music? Because that can stink on it?

Unknown Speaker 20:57
Yeah, look, actually they're really They're really positive about it. And I remember the my boys were quite little when the song always when it came out and they were in the back of the car we're driving personally got some shows over there and the guys were were singing, you know, the song and fighting because one was getting the words wrong the other one but no, no, that's not the words. You know, they're having fun. They need more songs better than the other ones. So and, you know, they're they're great bass lots of shows, I think they get to be, you know, over now to you like anyone, you know, anyone's key that's been in the industry, it's, it's when you go to lots of shows and you meet lots of famous people. It's kind of guys, it's just normal. So they still, they still really supportive of it. And, you know, I think the important thing is and I've had lots of other friends who are musicians and get really affected by what people say that but the thing is what you got understand this guy People that are going to love you and is going, going to hate you. I mean, there's nothing you can do about that. And, and you can't be affected by that because it's Everyone has their own taste. And it's their own opinion. If they don't like music, then that's cool. You know, I mean, anyone that gets caught up in what people saying to them, you just got to forget it and don't even read it. And just as long as you know within yourself that you're enjoying what you're doing, and you're giving, you know, a lot of joy to other people, then that's how you're gonna do it doesn't matter you're gonna have you'll have the haters.

Josh Janssen 22:35
Yeah. Hey, thanks so much, Mike. We really appreciate

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you

Josh Janssen 22:41
guys. I really appreciate you coming on the show. I know. You know, you're you're a busy guy, your dad you've got a lot of things on and speaking to a few grumps on the internet that you've never met we

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thanks sweet view

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paid because we're loving But it's a weird view.

Unknown Speaker 23:02
No, no. So you guys know it's

Josh Janssen 23:09
gonna be dry. Yeah, absolutely. Oh, yes. Is it so noxious? Pete I do have this request. I mean, opportunity would be great. But I also have the Well, I've got the, the the exclusive daily talk show banner. I don't know if that's too much for you. Is that okay? I can look at Hang on. Maybe I'll keep it clean. I think george will be pissed off if I did that. Right. Well, what are you gonna play?

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I'll give you two choices. I can play feel or I can play opportunity. Opportunity plays, plays

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so

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they say tomorrow

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Flowers

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See?

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See the oh there it is. Don't go kill yourself in that

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sense satisfaction.

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Oh wait

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caffeine

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Training us up along this

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path see all their

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past

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demo? One

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second chance.

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Okay, perfect.

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Dawn

Josh Janssen 27:06
Thanks so much paid that was awesome to us

Unknown Speaker 27:12
to talk to you guys right awesome thanks. Thanks

Unknown Speaker 27:25
while on I know I assume everyone most people are consuming this with a visual can complain as well because it's the live stream but why am I the presenter doesn't have like a cool depth of field cameras can you guys

Josh Janssen 27:40
do you know what I know that we've been talking about you buying my one dx mark two for a while but

Unknown Speaker 27:48
I would have been able to process

Josh Janssen 27:53
the no canon just released an app. So you could even turn your 60 into a webcam. So it's it's It's great. So like, you can plug in a good DSLR. And you can use it on zoom.

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Yeah, that makes you guys look unbelievable. This is

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from the 80s. And you guys are telling me from the start.

Josh Janssen 28:18
Like, straightaway after he came on, it's like the producers like, fix the camera cuz he's not Ben's not. He's like, Look, you can't look shoot in front of us. So

Unknown Speaker 28:30
as you know him, it's about the content, though. I mean, like your resume.

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Doing well.

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It's not about the coming rule. It's about just getting to the end.

Unknown Speaker 28:46
I mean, you JJ and looks like you guys at night. various people have treated us at various people have attempted the 24 hour live show, I think. Yeah, I mean, I think maybe it was

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Jace from Jason AJ.

Unknown Speaker 29:04
In Melbourne for beveling Melbourne who used to buy them the name of a lab rat. I'm pretty sure when he was in Brisbane they might have even gone for like 48 or I think they attempted just for the longest possible

Josh Janssen 29:17
which is mpj on those they did 56 hours and they still talk at 1030 Yeah, but this adds it was right over it i 56 hours

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a map. No,

Tommy 29:29
no, no, no,

Unknown Speaker 29:30
no, no.

Unknown Speaker 29:31
But that's the thing like just going to like going that far. It's like, it becomes a bit like a demolition derby doesn't work. Like you know, people are just going to lose their mind. like no one's listening. No matter how great they are. Even Jerry Seinfeld, probably by like our three he's gonna come up with anything profound like people were listening to. Just to hear someone die from not sleeping

Josh Janssen 29:57
with what what, how many We got to go because I don't know which thing to play. I think I think you're running Seven, six.

Unknown Speaker 30:06
Is it the same thing?

Unknown Speaker 30:07
Hey, so we've we've done nine hours in 10 minutes on the live stream. So what does that?

Unknown Speaker 30:14
Give us one in the room?

Josh Janssen 30:16
So if we started at seven, that's 24 hours. How long have we got to go?

Unknown Speaker 30:20
Yeah, you have a nine hours. So you've done.

Josh Janssen 30:24
That's really, I had the 16 hours sitting ready. I was really looking to impress the pants off you guys.

Unknown Speaker 30:31
I would I don't stop doing hours to go until it's like, I'm detained because like you can't, you can't do more than half the hours to go, can you? I mean,

Josh Janssen 30:46
this is like the University of Melbourne. I saw that they had a painted path advertisement that said the 44th best university in the world and I just thought at that point, you probably don't bother.

Unknown Speaker 30:58
Yeah, my name is There are some lists with your it's honourable to be like, I suppose, you know the br w which is 500 people, it's cool to be number 400 on that if you're into that kind of thing like you don't mind being 400 together other lists were top three or top 10 at a pinch. And I think the general rule here for campaigning means you just wait until the least off the time to lapse because I suppose it kind of like like you don't want to do it. If you're like 20 years to go. It doesn't let the person go and go on.

Josh Janssen 31:40
It was automated. I couldn't help it.

Unknown Speaker 31:44
We just put you're

Unknown Speaker 31:47
gonna get paid no matter what batch next time we did. Let's just start a maintain, you know, like that. That was the other day at the end for I'm sure Jason page, I thought

Josh Janssen 31:58
well, the thing is, I wanted to To talk about some miscommunication, because when when you said hey, can we do 330? I had I'd sort of not that, you know, I may have used sort of your brand equity to the gronk where I'm like, yeah, Hey Miss Blake's coming on the show. You know, that's why we have 109 people watching right now and the strain

Unknown Speaker 32:26
was I think it was for that 15 hours to go word up.

Josh Janssen 32:32
But anyway, I was using I was using your brand I hope you don't mind and I sort of said hi Misha is coming up with the text messages that we had. And we were all celebrating the fact that I thought you were coming on at 440 in the morning as like a final pump up. Will you ever coming on at 440 in the morning?

Unknown Speaker 32:53
I'm totally not sorry about that. I'm

Unknown Speaker 32:58
glad. There we go. Like it leaves messages.

Josh Janssen 33:01
Brad blank bread blanks is joining us at four I am I said Matt just before Hey, Miss, she's like, Man, you guys are doing amazing stuff. Like the fact that Hamish is getting up at 440 in the morning. I'm like, man, he rides every morning at fourth. I think he's just like he's

Unknown Speaker 33:17
real good story.

Unknown Speaker 33:19
You really read your events. You projected a lot onto that, didn't you? There's a lot of because it's like, hey, what time do you reckon you'll be? will work You thought I said they were doing 7am to 7am so I was like, yeah, and what about 440? I think I misread it at 7am to 7pm. So you're right because I said I'll be close to the end and I'll get to see you guys really loose because in my mind doing seven 8pm that's still a lot of radio to do. That's like you would be you will be delirious in 12 hours. So that's kind of my that is my arrow.

Unknown Speaker 33:53
So and then

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you're like, oh, wow, I ended up paying like ah, obviously

Tommy 34:03
be doing it for 30 am just curious though.

Unknown Speaker 34:06
I mean I'd be watching just don't trust myself

Unknown Speaker 34:12
I can't join you live now look I I mean sometimes I do get up early to exercise certainly not four o'clock but maybe sometimes like early so ever there's like a 530 but the the anguish because my life is never worth it because I think I can be super quiet and and then I get an I go and like had a bike ride or whatever when I get home and say when I say a message from like 550 for Boeing, not as quiet as you think might

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not work but

Josh Janssen 34:46
what's, what's the ISO been like? What have you been up to?

Unknown Speaker 34:55
is a disaster. We're

Josh Janssen 34:57
still there to see connections to ship The bed

Unknown Speaker 35:03
like you see me coming back

Unknown Speaker 35:10
I'm back. I'm back. I'm back. I'm back. Hopefully you can hear me yeah we can.

Josh Janssen 35:16
I mean this is slightly annoying at your end but I can call you for audio and then we still get the video it will look good and you won't get that reverb that you're getting I

Unknown Speaker 35:24
understand that. And I I just do have to call Channel Nine in about three minutes.

Josh Janssen 35:31
This is this is convenient.

Unknown Speaker 35:34
So apologies for that but just quickly for I'm doing an Asterix day just seems to be like the day of catching up with people. I've renamed it as Ernie I've always got a fairly hectic schedule. So winter and a little bit this morning. And then I actually this is not as well probably vlogs as many as from a meeting of like our Australia and New Zealand I got invited to be a special guest speaker at their company. Catch up Got a lot of hints about how I would love some sort of gold card to get new Lego. And now Now I'm going to share with you guys I've got a I got to talk to Channel Nine. So honestly the JC only that it actually felt like what people must be going the whole time which is like on you know talking to people all day but mostly I'm like wrestling on the trampoline with my little boy or we've been battling my way through prep for the second time in my life. I'm learning all about the alphabet and basic reading which GS school prep school stuff is boring. It's pretty boring.

Josh Janssen 36:40
But it's scaring the fuck out of me right now is actually perfectly positioned. He looks

Unknown Speaker 36:47
like he's able to begin by

Unknown Speaker 36:53
sitting on top of some balls. And now he's gone into my neck. Yeah, the way he position. It's like, I've been meaning like a king. Like I've got a palm five. I'm also on the way back

Josh Janssen 37:11
for the final 30 seconds out edited George comes into the office all the time. He's always wearing the perfect holiday jumper. He's, which I think like wearing. I mean, we're in different spaces. So I think you do your podcast and all that sort of thing, but sort of the different thing. But George, I thought you could give Hamish a question your big fan of, of Hamish and Andy, what's your question for Hamish?

Unknown Speaker 37:38
Oh, great. And I mean, a three minute answer is going to be tough. I'm sorry, guys think of a different way. Howdy. I've heard you talk about you pedalling hard in your 20s and just working, working, working and now you're taking a bit of time off. I feel like the pedalling for me is sort of happening right now. But how do you Stay present at home because that's something I need to get better at. Because I just keep taking over my brain when I get home. And, yeah,

Unknown Speaker 38:08
I want to be more present.

Unknown Speaker 38:10
I'm great. I mean, very app. But my kids went into the bedroom, they're dancing. In terms of, like, you know, switching off from work, you can do the same. Yeah. It's a great question because, like, you know, when we do when we kind of do the stuff that we do, it's not like, you know, you're not switching off that much when you get home and because your clients know that we're working the ideas industry. One idea easily counts as like a full day's work because you never you would never do. You don't have I wouldn't. There's no way you have turned 65 bright ideas in a year. So you know, if you actually have one guy during that day, that's like you you produce them. Above Average day's workload by having one good idea. So you there's that weird temptation because you always know that could come at any time. The I think the contagion is the brain is like I've dedicated thinking about work. But I think there really is a lot to the magic of properly switching off in your subconscious to do. Honestly, the simplest thing that I've learned is to check my phone somewhere else. And then you are and if you check it, like I do the basic stuff like I put it on a shelf in another room. And it's weird because you feel like you've got a big problem and you feel like you're an addict and you're having to confront myself on that. But as soon as you do that, and you put your plan another step another room, or can you feel yourself waiting for like 10 or 15 times when you're like meant to be and it reminds you that probably being a foreigner isn't good idea.

Josh Janssen 39:52
I mean, George is on a 24 hour stream so might give you he's actually sleeping at the office tonight. So we want to start

Unknown Speaker 40:01
To talk about trying to not think about work so much. All

Tommy 40:10
right, one last thing. What should I get for dinner off Uber? Give me an order. What do you reckon?

Unknown Speaker 40:14
Ah, gee, there's a lot of restaurants on there. Now. There's a lot of good stuff with our fancy restaurants rather than an economist with pizza of the mind, like I've been doing a lot of pizza. Pizza and thought I can, you know, tie tie ties the holds up even better.

Unknown Speaker 40:33
Yeah. Do you get

Unknown Speaker 40:35
that rice? Oh, I love wood, would you

Josh Janssen 40:38
and I just spoke to someone the other day and they said they don't rise which was just a

Unknown Speaker 40:46
it's a bit too sweet.

Unknown Speaker 40:47
Oh, nice.

Tommy 40:56
pistes jumping out. Thank you.

Unknown Speaker 41:01
That's your mic.