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Episode 93325:26

Body Sponges, Leap Years & Exercise Bikes

We chat about the new setup at the office, growing a business during lockdown, loofahs, and video production jokes.

Show Notes

00:00Our Fat Fridays order
04:53The office setup
09:47Growing the business
15:00Loofahs
22:45Production jokes

At a glance

From this episode’s transcript.

  • –The hosts returned to recording in the same physical studio after roughly 7-8 months apart due to pandemic restrictions, testing a new multicamera BirdDog-based setup ahead of a client job.
  • –Tommy shares that being physically back together added a noticeable energetic/sensory difference (he describes being able to literally smell Josh) compared to remote recording.
  • –Josh purchased a Nordic exercise bike; Tommy argues the immersive screen helps distract from the initial difficulty of starting a workout routine, which should help Josh build consistency.
  • –The team discusses business milestones, including nearing the end of a roughly 2-year office lease and growing their team (3D Dyl, Mason) during lockdown.
  • –The episode ends with a string of improvised post-production/editing jokes, a recurring bit the hosts do for producer George.

Questions this episode answers

Why were Tommy and Josh recording in the studio together after months apart?

They explain they hadn't recorded in person for about 7-8 months due to pandemic-related separation, and they were testing a new multicamera switching setup (using the BirdDog product) ahead of a client job the following week.

What exercise bike does Josh talk about getting?

Josh got a Nordic (NordicTrack-style) exercise bike with an immersive screen, and Tommy discusses how the screen's immersion helps distract from the initial difficulty of starting a new exercise routine.

What is the 'lift story' Tommy tells in this episode?

Tommy describes getting into an elevator in Josh's apartment building and forgetting to press the floor number button, leading to an awkward exchange with a mustached stranger also in the lift who pointed out his mistake - the first time he'd been in a lift with a stranger since the pandemic began.

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Episode TranscriptShow
0:04

Tommy: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 933, and we're back in the studio for one day only before we head back out. But no, we are—

0:14

Josh: we might do it. I think it would be nice to do it every— isn't this very strange?

0:18

Tommy: It's so strange. Um, so we're in person for the first time in many, many months doing the show. Oh no, it'd be 6 months. Sev's— what, how long do you reckon?

0:28

Josh: He doesn't have a mic.

0:29

Tommy: No, it's fine, but he can just— he can hold his hands out. How many months do you reckon? 7 months? 8 months of not doing the show. I mean, I had a moment, um, in the lift with a man.

0:41

Josh: What lift?

0:42

Tommy: I wouldn't have had— I've had moments in lifts with women, with men, but this one was famous.

0:47

Josh: Dancing with the Stars. Shut up.

0:50

Tommy: At least Amy knows about that one. Does she? Anyway, I made up—

0:55

Josh: that was, that was when you were, that was when you were young.

0:59

Tommy: I was 19, 20, made out with one of the dancers from Dancing with the Stars. I'm pretty sure you've even mentioned on the show, but she wasn't a celebrity, she was just the professional dancer, um, which kind of has more talent than most of the celebrities on that show.

1:13

Josh: That's very true.

1:13

Tommy: Anyway, it's Fat Fridays, we didn't mention that.

1:16

Josh: Um, and so the reason why we're doing this is we've got a client job next week where we're doing multicamera switching and stuff. So we're, we're testing out a different solution, which this could— I think that we will end up doing a bunch of episodes this year from this setup.

1:33

Tommy: Thank you, Pepsi Max. Today we've got Bell's Hot Chicken. Um, and yeah, just keeping it— I mean, it's, it's the closest thing to being lean without it being lean, you know what I mean? Like, it's, it's sliding into my diet.

1:46

Josh: Yeah.

1:47

Tommy: So I've got some chicken nuggets which I brought, um, as much as I just use my hands, I did bring a fork for us to use. But there is something— I mean, Jess is in the office today too, and I'm mid-conversation with her and she just smiles and says, 'It's something different. It's a bit weird, isn't it, being back in front, you know, in front of someone?' And I just said, 'Yeah, I can smell you.' Not in a bad way, but just the difference in like you getting stimulus from like energy, you're getting different energy from this.

2:20

Josh: Did you finish the lift story?

2:22

Tommy: Oh no, I didn't. So I was in the lift going to you. Yeah, I had a moment with a man, that's all I wanted to say. No, so I was in the lift and this man got in, but I, I, so I pressed the buzzer to come up to your place and you answered like you didn't know who it was. So first of all, this guy who rocked up as you spoke and then got himself in. So he lives in your building.

2:46

Josh: Sure.

2:47

Tommy: And so then I got, you said come up, and then I got in the lift and I'd kind of forgotten that I needed to do a step after that. I mean, you live in a place where you gotta press the number. You gotta press the number. It would be great if you were in a higher, you know, sort of high-tier department. It's a bit embarrassing, to be honest.

3:03

Josh: You want a doorman or whatever.

3:05

Tommy: You thought I never wanted a fat business partner. I don't want a business partner that lives in one that doesn't. I don't want a buff one.

3:12

Josh: I get it.

3:13

Tommy: No, but I got in and he said to me, are you coming to 7, are you? And, and that was his way of saying you haven't pressed the button.

3:22

Josh: You have it like, oh, that's good.

3:23

Tommy: He's either thinking I'm coming to his level. I was like, oh no, no, I'm not coming to 7.

3:27

Josh: I was like, oh, how long, how, how far in were you before you realized? The doors were closing.

3:33

Tommy: Okay, the doors were closing. And, um, and so yeah, anyway, it kind of didn't get us off to the right My point being is it's the first time I've been in a lift with somebody since, you know, we've all been recluse.

3:48

Josh: And did he have a mask on?

3:50

Tommy: No, but he had an epic moustache and he was a little character.

3:55

Josh: It's like a mouth filter, it's just the moustache. And a bit of blue cheese dip on this, this is gonna be real good.

4:04

Tommy: But I even felt in that moment, that was before I had the Jess and you— I can smell you moment.

4:09

Josh: I'm gonna get this— fuck, I'm going to get this on my shorts and it's going to look like cum. That's a real problem.

4:16

Tommy: But there is something about being around people again, and mate, I'm looking forward to it. Like, I'm vibing.

4:22

Josh: Yeah, you're doing it.

4:24

Tommy: Even you were in good spirits today, like, wow, this is the first time we've done that.

4:28

Josh: Even you. Everyone. No, I agree, I'm surprised.

4:34

Tommy: Don't you reckon, guys? Can we get some nods? He's in good spirits.

4:36

Josh: Yeah, GP's being around.

4:39

Tommy: Multiple, but it's been a while. Yeah, there's a transition period for a person like me who likes to get in people's faces. Yeah, and kiss people in lifts.

4:49

Josh: Yeah, no, it is, uh, it is nice. It's, uh, it's, uh, good to be back. There's the aircons going. Yeah, the, um, I feel comfortable with this, the, the setup that we've sort of worked out. Yeah, I think it looks quite good. Maybe go to YouTube and cheque it out.

5:06

Tommy: Oh yeah, cheque it out. Different camera angles. Hayden Dibb, what do you think? You know, you take, um, yeah, Hayden Dibb famously walked into our studio sort of mid-pandemic just to give us some feedback that he didn't like our shots, which, um, and no one knows a bad shot, no one knows, recognises a bad shot.

5:28

Josh: Yeah, more than Josh. Yeah, I knew that there were some issues with it. Um, so what else have we got?

5:35

Tommy: Oh, just more hot chicken.

5:36

Josh: Okay, great.

5:37

Tommy: It's a hot chicken kind of day. Oh, and I got some—

5:40

Josh: Can I have the pickles?

5:41

Tommy: Well, yeah, and I got pickled vegetables, which I thought would be a nice addition. But you know, GB's hanging around, he's hungry.

5:50

Josh: Oh, GB, do you want some nuggets? Yeah, yeah, GB can have some nuggets.

5:52

Tommy: Can you cut to the wide, mate?

5:53

Josh: He's literally, what's the guy from Good Morning Australia? Why is it on bread? It's always on, it's always comes over. He's literally covered the entire shot. You would be completely kicked out of a studio if you ever do that. Yeah, just sit there for us.

6:14

Tommy: Sit down. Everyone's panicked. No one knows what we're doing. There is a vibe, isn't it? It's amazing how, um, you chewing chew— I mean, we talked about this last time coming back into the office. We literally were not we were picking up on all the things, the nuances of our personalities. But just you chewing chewing gum before was getting me going.

6:36

Josh: In a good way?

6:37

Tommy: Well, no, you were chewing with your mouth open.

6:39

Josh: Oh, really?

6:41

Tommy: And you were focused on doing tech tasks, so you never throw shade to someone working.

6:46

Josh: I think there's something too about, yeah, so what's the observations? What am I thinking? How— ah, the, um, my phone. I've been losing my phone, don't know where that is. That's been annoying me. I heard something going beep beep beep beep beep beep. Yeah, it's my— so with my Apple Watch, I can actually select, like, try and find my phone, which was lucky. But I think the, um, yeah, I'm enjoying it now, but I'm pessimistic, pessimistic of the future.

7:14

Tommy: Well, you can eat leaner at home. You can— I feel like the time— your energy levels are different when you can't— when you're at home, just even just the thought of being, you know, when you're at your workplace and you're tired, it's a different vibe than being at home.

7:31

Josh: I feel out of control. That's the feeling. It's like, because normally I've like got the camera, like I've got everything, I see everything that's going on. I'm behind the desk. I've let Mason in charge of that. And there's a part of me which feels like he's completely fucked it and we won't know until the end.

7:50

Tommy: I mean, he's done that before.

7:52

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's very true. When he's like out of focus the whole time. But we've even got like, to bring you in on the tech side, we're using a product called BirdDog, which does all this, like turns video signals into the network. It's very cool, but they've got telelights. And so I can see when Sev's is changing to the wide, and every time he does it, it feels like this weird flex that he's doing. Like, we get it, mate, you know how to switch. He's actually— I wasn't expecting him to use the wide as much as he's using it. 'Um, can we get— can I get a shot of the wide shot, please?' Uh, Mason, why is it taking you so long?

8:30

Tommy: That should be the first thing to do when you've—

8:32

Josh: when I talk about the wide, I would probably cut to wide. Yeah. Um, but it's very— no, it's great. He's, he's really, um, he's really taken on the sort of the television director role beautifully.

8:46

Tommy: One thing, um, my mum dated a floor manager once for a TV show. Uh, Pluck a Duck. No, no, what was it? Countdown, maybe? Oh yeah, maybe it was Countdown.

8:57

Josh: I think my, uh, teacher Suzanne Dowling— no, Rockarena. She was the, um, my English teacher. She was the, uh, the presenter of Rockarena.

9:07

Tommy: I was one for one. My mate was the EP of Dancing with the Stars. That's how I hooked up with that girl. No joke, it was. He took me to the after party. I absolutely disgraced his name. No, I didn't.

9:20

Josh: And ruined the lift.

9:23

Tommy: Um, no, what I was saying— I don't know what I was saying. There's something about being in person that, um, has a more, uh, performance level. Oh no, that's what I was getting at. I was padding there. That's what they do in TV, Mace. They pad. This is the first time that we've, we've been—

9:41

Josh: I'm gonna stop being silly. Do you think we're almost acting like we're drunk?

9:45

Tommy: We're a bit silly. I'm looking forward to getting stuck in some drinks for our Christmas party today. Hey, but first time that we've all been together as the unified business, like the start, like all of us now together in the same room, because we've grown our business over the lockdown period. How? I don't know, because we haven't left home, but it's nice. To now. I mean, when we first came in this office, it was you, Mason, and I, and then 3D Deal. He came and lived here, but then it still felt pretty bare, like there was no one, like it was a bit sad for, you know, 2, 3 level. I call it 3 level, a 3 level. Yeah, well, it's a garage, but the, um, the different floors.

10:37

Josh: What, um, what are you excited about for 2021 when it comes to the office? And sorry, I've got a lot of chicken in my mouth.

10:44

Tommy: Well, um, our lease runs out and that's almost 2 years, so it's been nice to be able to survive 2 years of having a big boy lease.

10:54

Josh: So, um, what do you count as a big boy lease? Not subleasing from your mate?

10:59

Tommy: Anything more than what you pay to live, like our house rent. Is less than this. So if you're paying more for an office space that's more than your own lease—

11:11

Josh: You're a big boy or big girl.

11:12

Tommy: Yeah, big boy, big girl.

11:13

Josh: Can I have one more piece of chicken? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

11:16

Tommy: Great, okay. So 2022— 2021, 2021 for the office. I don't know, it's a ma— you know what, I would rearrange my room every 3, 4 months when I lived at home. When I was younger.

11:31

Josh: Yes.

11:32

Tommy: And I felt like I was in a new apartment, a new house. Yeah, new house, new hotel.

11:37

Josh: Well, you did have a minibar.

11:38

Tommy: Yeah, you are. Yeah, I've had it all. I had a safe. Anyway, I had a Bible in my thing. No, I lived in a hotel, come to think of it. No, um, but it made it feel different, re-energized it. So even this setup has felt like it's re-energized something.

12:00

Josh: Is it true that your mum put little chocolates on you?

12:04

Tommy: And, uh, Mum would make my towels into swans.

12:08

Josh: It's just like barley.

12:10

Tommy: That is amazing though. If you can do that, fucking, that's a catch.

12:15

Josh: Yeah, well, like he's saying, that's a catch as in, like, if you're on a date, some—

12:19

Tommy: yeah, if he can do swans out of towel Keep that guy.

12:24

Josh: Yeah, I mean, the whole towel on beds outside of hotels, it doesn't really work very well.

12:38

Tommy: Well, it'd be nice to come home and have a towel on my bed every day, but then I would want it to also coincide with my room's clean.

12:45

Josh: Do you ever, do you ever actually have a towel that you put in the bathroom before you need it. For instance, I feel like the only time I'm getting a new towel is when I feel like I need a new towel. I never feel like I'm preemptively putting a new towel out waiting for the shower later in the day. Do you know what I mean?

13:04

Tommy: No, no, I know. That should be the vibe that, oh, here's something cool.

13:08

Josh: Like calendarizing.

13:10

Tommy: So right now we're living in a 3-bedroom So there's our room, Bodhi's room, and Amy's sister lives with us. She's moving out next week, and so we then have an extra— so we'll move into the ensuite bedroom. And so then we're going to have like— I'm— I basically what I want to do is I want to separate from Amy just our bathrooms. Yeah, like I want to just be using this, you know, one of them I haven't— she gets to decide, I think. Yeah, maybe she'll go the other one. She can wee in my ensuite but can't shower there, you know. And then there's— it's really like I can live in filth if I want. Like, it can, it can get bad. And so, but what I would like is, um, having multiple towels there because I'm the guy that will use a towel there and then put it there and then use that one over there.

14:06

Josh: Oh yeah.

14:06

Tommy: And so sometimes I've had two towels going I've got no problem with two towels.

14:10

Josh: Do you have, um, set colors?

14:14

Tommy: Yeah, she's got green ones and then I've got yellow, yellow ones. Yeah.

14:19

Josh: And so when you say that you could use multiple, multiple yellow—

14:24

Tommy: well, Amy gets angry if I use hers, so I've got— I use Bodie's.

14:29

Josh: Oh, that's sad.

14:30

Tommy: No, but he's clean. If anything, he's cleaner than Amy and I because I scrub his asshole.

14:36

Josh: Yeah, yeah, before your towel.

14:38

Tommy: Well, I have to— like, I— he's little, and so by the time I've got the soap, rubbed it, washed his bum, washed his arms, underarms, he's more thoroughly clean than I am. And so he's using it at a clean towel level, and then I'm just using his towel. So if anything is dirty, we're not— once I've used it.

14:56

Josh: Yeah, yeah. Do you, uh, do you have a loof? It's called a loof. A foot loofer. What's the circular thing? Loafer?

15:06

Tommy: Loof?

15:07

Josh: The thing that you put soap in and then you like do that, like it's—

15:11

Tommy: Oh, it looks like a ball, like a fabric layered— Amy has one, but god, nah.

15:18

Josh: I'm gonna lock in loofah.

15:20

Tommy: Uh, 97. Oh, you can't, he can't, he can't do too many things at once. Loafer. Can we get, can we get a, can we get Jess Lucas upstairs to yell out? I feel like she would know.

15:30

Josh: She's on a 30-second delay, so it's gonna be really annoying. Jess, do not respond. Yeah, do not respond. GB, did you find out what a loofer is? Um, so a soap and a, a lily. Could be a lily, looks like a lily.

15:48

Tommy: Bath lily, loofer. Anyway, it's nice to be back in. I like to see that, um, you know, businesses are coming back, hopefully.

15:57

Josh: What have you— no, what's the, what's the— yeah, loofer. Thank you.

16:04

Tommy: L-O-O-F-A-H-S. Lufa.

16:07

Josh: And it would take Lily. Yeah, I don't know if you spelled that right in the end, but that's okay. Um, yeah, good one. No, I mean, I'm excited. I think that the, uh, uh, there is a different energy at the moment, which is all positive. You— we can see the finish line. We know that it's like— it's probably like a— I don't know, from a listener perspective, whether they're gaining the— seeing the energy or feeling the energy, but it's definitely, um I actually feel, to be honest, like this is a bit of an— it feels like a remote show. Like, don't you feel right now like this is how we felt in Los Angeles?

16:42

Tommy: Oh yeah, yeah. Because it— yeah, you're out of your comfort zone.

16:44

Josh: A bit closer, talking. I mean, I'm not wearing head normally, like, because we've changed this up a little bit. I'm not wearing headphones at the moment.

16:53

Tommy: Yeah.

16:53

Josh: So I've just got to hope that you can hear us based on Mason, which I believe he can do it.

17:02

Tommy: Yeah. Yeah. We all believe in him.

17:06

Josh: Yeah, we all do.

17:07

Tommy: It's good.

17:08

Josh: So, um, anything else? What else have you got?

17:15

Tommy: Remember that first— we did our first episode, that first episode that we did, um, with multiple cameras? Yeah, it feels like that again. If you are on our YouTube channel, mm-hmm, /dailytalkshow, uh What was it, 300 and something or 280 when we started? Yeah, when did your life change? 237.

17:38

Josh: 237.

17:39

Tommy: Yeah, that's when Mason's life turned upside down. Yeah, it, um, became a real lifestyle for him filming every day.

17:46

Josh: Yeah, I mean, uh, but it feels like that highlight of 2020— is it too early?

17:53

Tommy: Um, surviving. I think that's most people. I mean, I mean, not if you didn't survive. Well, you don't know that unless it's better on the other side than here. That's what I always think about. Like, everyone's up there just thinking, you guys are fucking stressed about nothing, this is sick.

18:14

Josh: Yeah, it's a good point. Could be. Um, and so, so highlights surviving, maybe. Uh, anything else more specific?

18:22

Tommy: Oh, I mean, it's— there's lots of things, the business, but this isn't the last show of the year and that's where I'm saving it.

18:30

Josh: Yeah, yeah, sure, you want to save something.

18:31

Tommy: I'm saving— we're going to do something on that show.

18:34

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah. What am I—

18:36

Tommy: I'll ask that question, but I mean like milestones for you getting that Nordic bike.

18:42

Josh: I wasn't gonna bring up the bike. Yeah, but you had to go at the bike.

18:45

Tommy: Yeah, it's a bike.

18:46

Josh: What do you think? Come on, be honest. You can be nice about it.

18:50

Tommy: So I've used shitloads of bikes in my time, and it's— the screen is the thing. It's the immersion into the world. Like, it does— you see how— so here's the thing, I'm just trying to work this out. When you start exercising, 20 minutes feels like a long time.

19:13

Josh: Yeah.

19:13

Tommy: Distraction which is the screen on the Nordic, like it gets you into the zone.

19:18

Josh: Immersion, yeah.

19:18

Tommy: Immersion. I see how you could easily do an hour and a half in the future.

19:22

Josh: Okay, well, I'm starting with 25.

19:24

Tommy: No, no, but that's what I mean. So because when you get fitter, yeah, time seems to— like doing a run for 40 minutes, yeah, doesn't feel like it did when you first started because 20 minutes felt like forever.

19:36

Josh: Definitely.

19:36

Tommy: And so there is something about for you starting out again on your fitness journey, it, it was gonna work. I reckon it'll work. It's gonna distract you. If you just build up the routine of watching TV, essentially means you're exercising.

19:51

Josh: Yeah, yeah.

19:51

Tommy: And so it is, it's, it's fucking cool.

19:53

Josh: I'd love to get, um, baseball sorted for the seat, like to be able to watch baseball on the screen.

20:01

Tommy: Can you?

20:01

Josh: Well, this is the thing, so if you go on YouTube, there's all these hacks so you can get Netflix, you can get all the different services but may as well wheel it out in front of your 75-inch. Yeah. Well, so the other thing that you can do, I was thinking about this, it's got an HDMI out and so you could take the signal and, you know, we could, we could put it through NDI, but we won't get into that. Bird dog. But, but the, but what we, but what I was thinking would be really cool. Imagine like I was thinking more if I had a bike shop, which I don't, but if I had a bike shop you could have the Nordic bike and then you could have a projector but project it really big. Like not just like— but you could almost like project it over the top of everything so it like becomes like it fills. So you end up just seeing trees, like you just sort of almost like if you have a fucking Mona Lisa. Yes. So it's like, yeah, imagine like, you know, with, um, if you're on a 16:9 timeline and you have 4:3 footage and you, you put it in and then you're like Fuck it, I just, I don't want this, you know, the black pillars. So you zoom up and you add a Gaussian blur and you end up with sort of that blur. I feel like it's a little bit like that where it's like, you know what, this white space, these white walls pissing me off. You could just project, you could project hills and mountains and all that sort of thing.

21:28

Tommy: We've lost everyone who's never edited before, but that's okay. I'll tell you what I don't mind being in a studio is being able to look to someone for a laugh like George.

21:36

Josh: Well, George will always laugh.

21:38

Tommy: He's good at that.

21:39

Josh: He's great. He's good.

21:41

Tommy: Good for ego. Great for ego.

21:42

Josh: I don't know what you looking to him does for our eyelines.

21:47

Tommy: No, me either. I was thinking that.

21:48

Josh: Yeah, but that's okay.

21:49

Tommy: Anyway, you know, a great producer would tell us, but not sure.

21:53

Josh: How's it looking, Mason?

21:55

Tommy: Okay, we've got a signal.

21:56

Josh: Looks good. Okay, well, that was fun. We do it every day. We've got big plans. I love a launch, love an announcement. Big plans happening next year.

22:09

Tommy: Yes.

22:10

Josh: Yeah, so to do with the show, maybe.

22:12

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, I feel like, um, let's just lose 2020, you know, leap year, it's been it, been it for a lot of us. Leap year, it's just like 2021, it's just me just saying that it's a year that isn't—

22:27

Josh: ever since you found out it was a leap year, you've mentioned this week, I mentioned leap year twice this week. You've mentioned it more than the bike, I reckon. Like, the leap year is absolutely not— yeah, Olympics, leap year.

22:38

Tommy: Well, leap years are like when you're in a premiere timeline and No, no, jokes, jokes, guys.

22:44

Josh: Do you remember there was actually something called Premiere Elements? Like when you say Premiere, not Premiere Pro, makes me think of— yeah, there was a product that was Elements, which I think they sort of discontinued after the Creative Cloud.

22:59

Tommy: On that note, so this is the thing, we show off for George.

23:02

Josh: You know that I'm showing off for George when I'm doing very nice—

23:06

Tommy: George is hard on the critics.

23:09

Josh: Yeah, the, um, I love a bit of post-prod gear. Now what's a funny— to finish this up, let's both do a post-prod joke.

23:18

Tommy: Well, I want to throw to Ken Burns right now.

23:20

Josh: That's good, that's good. All right, my joke is, um, um, the only thing, um, uh, the only thing worse than— this is, this is literally— don't buy the Jerry Seinfeld joke book. This is, this is the process. Um, uh, do you know the only thing that's worse than—

23:49

Tommy: you're an absolute whore if it's not H.264.

23:53

Josh: That's very good, that's very good. I wouldn't have said that, but, um, I reckon, um, there's definitely a joke around like, oh, I'll be fine as long as all my media is online.

24:12

Tommy: Just rhymes.

24:13

Josh: Yeah, yeah, well, that's where you went. Yeah, I could do— I mean, we've done a lot of rhyming as well. Um, let me do one more. There's got to be something funny. Um, uh, oh, you know, the, the thing about Premiere Pro is that you can— it's, um— oh no, I was dealing with proxies the other day.

24:31

Tommy: There's something around the hard drive and editing of a hard drive and someone sitting down.

24:36

Josh: No, this is too easy. I think there's something more nuanced.

24:40

Tommy: Um, is it harder?

24:40

Josh: Yeah, yeah. Oh, someone said that I use the mouse too much when I'm editing. Yeah, that was more a fact. Um, uh, oh, um, the worst thing about keyboard shortcuts is your fingers get really sore. All right, we're done. Okay. Uh, hi@thedailytalkshow.com, your favorite— your favorite, um, post-production jokes. Have you got any editing jokes?

25:11

Tommy: There is some good ones out there.

25:13

Josh: Yeah, um, just finish it there.

25:17

Tommy: It's done.

25:18

Josh: Perfect. All right, uh, it's a daily talk show. Uh, we'll see you tomorrow, guys. Have a good one.

25:22

Tommy: See you guys.

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