Happy Fat Fridays! We’ve got a very special UberEats surprise from one of our amazing listeners. We talk about Tommy at Craig Harper’s discovery camp, positive obsessions and we finish off the show with a Friday retrospect.
Show Notes
Happy Fat Fridays! We’ve got a very special UberEats surprise from one of our amazing listeners. We talk about Tommy at Craig Harper’s discovery camp, positive obsessions and we finish off the show with a Friday retrospect.
On today's episode of The Daily Talk Show we discuss:
Our Fat Fridays surprise
The power of obsession
The “I am happy” mantra
Tommy at Craig Harper’s discovery camp
International donut day
Shameless’ new podcast, Love Etc.
Mr. 97’s work ethic
Our Friday Retrospect
Joe Rogan’s podcast with Naval Ravikant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qHkcs3kG44
Shameless Media’s new show, Love Etc.: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/love-etc/id1465209618
Watch today's episode of The Daily Talk Show podcast at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZzqE5Iqxx4
Subscribe and listen to The Daily Talk Show podcast at https://www.thedailytalkshow.com/
A conversation sometimes worth recording with mates Tommy Jackett & Josh Janssen. Each weekday, Tommy & Josh chat about life, creativity, business and relationships — big questions and banter. Regularly visited by guests and friends of the show! This is The Daily Talk Show.
At a glance
From this episode’s transcript.
- –Fat Friday segments were listener-sponsored food treats, this time a blind-taste mystery UberEats order from On It Burgers paid for by a listener named Maryanne.
- –The hosts and team (Mason/Mr.97, George/3D Dill) discussed orthorexia and the idea that obsession with healthy eating can be positive if it leads to a sustainable middle ground.
- –A Joe Rogan podcast featuring tech investor Naval Ravikant inspired discussion of a future-of-work model built around short, obsessive 'sprints' of work followed by downtime, and that chronic stress may be more harmful than imperfect diet (citing Warren Buffett).
- –Josh's career advice: don't wait until you're fired or in conflict with a boss to update your LinkedIn profile—keep it current continuously.
- –The episode ends with a team gratitude ritual, reflecting the hosts' view that building a small, trusted team made their business partnership more sustainable than either solo founder or a team without a partnership base.
Questions this episode answers
What was the mystery UberEats delivery in The Daily Talk Show episode 364?
A listener named Maryanne surprised the hosts with a blind Fat Friday order from On It Burgers, which the team guessed by smell and taste before revealing it.
Who is Maryanne and why did she sponsor Fat Friday on the show?
Maryanne was someone Tommy met about ten years earlier at a Craig Harper personal-development camp; she reached out wanting to anonymously 'pay it forward' by shouting the team a Fat Friday meal.
What career advice did Josh give about LinkedIn?
Josh advised keeping your LinkedIn profile updated continuously rather than waiting until you're fired or have a falling-out with your boss to update your education and job information.
Episode TranscriptShow
Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.
Josh: It's a Daily Talk Show episode 364.
Tommy: It's Fat Fridays.
Josh: Make some noise.
Tommy: We're all really, really hungry. I think we're at the, like, the limit of our hunger levels before we all start punching each other's heads in.
Josh: It's Fat Friday. I'm actually not feeling— I was grumpy yesterday, feeling very good today.
Tommy: I was actually listening to yesterday's episode just a little bit. And you said you were annoyed at me. It was because you hadn't eaten. That's why.
Josh: I was on a 2-day.
Tommy: Yeah, but no, I think you need to can the 2-day if it means that morale in the office is low between you and us.
Josh: No, I think I get upset. I get a bit— it hurts my feelings sometimes when you tell me what to do. For instance, I was watching Jason PJ, who's a breakfast show here in Australia.
Tommy: Yeah, in Melbourne. They do the Brekkie Show.
Josh: Yeah, they were doing a 56-hour live stream. They're still going.
Tommy: Are they They're still going until 2 PM today.
Josh: So we should watch the final hour.
Tommy: It's Friday. They started Wednesday morning at 6 AM. That's full on.
Josh: But the thing is that I started to get— when I get into something and start watching it, I can't help but wanting to consume it. And you wanted to do the show. I didn't, to be fair. It's with the lights and stuff here, it's sort of like a casino. You don't know what the time is. You know what I mean? It could be the pokies. Like, I— yesterday I didn't really— I thought it was 2 PM. Well, you're like, you're leaving. I looked, it was like 5:30.
Tommy: Yeah. So we've pretty much uh, blacked out this room.
Josh: Is that a pubic hair? Can you get rid of that hair? That's not—
Tommy: the thing is I've got long hair now, and so my hair is like— I always used to get furious at Amy, just like, oh, can you please, you know, how aren't you bald with the amount of hair that women, or people with long hair, that I've realised now just lose, just comes out. And so like, I'm now a perpetrator of leaving hair around, but it's not pubic hair, so fucking get off. Okay, maybe you've experienced something from—
Josh: I don't know, I just say anytime I see any sort of pubes, if you get it, sorry, hair Yeah, I think if you get a pube that long, it's mine because I'm fucking taking care of business. Oh really?
Tommy: Yeah, I take care of business. I'm not like your neckbeard and, and the what comes out the top of your shirt. Um, but Amy did say that she, she, um, got this sandwich and she's like, what, have you ever got a pube in your food? And she's like, as she said that to me, and I'm like, nah. She's like, yeah, so I got this sandwich off this big sweaty guy, fat guy, who was making it and who was lovely. And she took the bite in, first bite, like it must have been a chest hair or something. Absolutely disgusting. Anyway, I hope we get none of that because today's Fat Friday is all thanks to Maryanne. So Maryanne, go get it, Freddy Gil. So lovely. We don't have the, um, yeah, there we go. We've actually got a full room of people. Just clap again, boys. Here we go. That's lovely.
Mason: I like that.
Tommy: Um, so Maryanne reached out to us She, her and I actually went on one of Craig Harper's camps about 10 years ago.
Josh: It's amazing.
Tommy: And so she reached out and said, I love what you guys are doing. I want to support you guys. I'd love to shout you a Fat Friday. I want to pay it forward. So lovely. Like, first of all, you go, this person a bit weird, which I read the messages to Amy. She's like, not weird. And then when I spoke to her yesterday, she said, look, I'm not crazy. I can say she's not crazy. It's, she's just someone who is lovely and pays it forward. And she told me a bunch of stuff which I don't think I need to go into, but she was just telling me about things she's done to pay it forward. And the whole point is she doesn't want to be known for paying it forward.
Josh: Yeah.
Tommy: So we're like revealing her, but I think we need to as far as the storey goes.
Josh: Yeah, Maryanne's a legend.
Tommy: Maryanne, you're an absolute legend.
Josh: But the thing is that we— it's been a very busy day today. We've got 6 edits due, lots of stuff happening, and so We've been trying to time it all quite well. So, about 10 minutes ago, the Uber Eats guy pressed the door. So, you basically said to Marianne, Marianne, can you please just send us whatever? It's your choice.
Tommy: She gave us the options, cash or I can do a surprise Uber Eats delivery. And I thought, that's so good.
Josh: 3D Deal, can you go get the— So, we got 3D Deal to put it in the kitchen so that we couldn't see it. I think it's fun. Yeah. I'm very excited.
Tommy: Oh, me too.
Josh: This is so cool. Oh, you've got it, great. So I'm going to close my eyes, and so can you just sort of— what should we do now that I've got my eyes closed?
George: You want me to plate it up?
Tommy: Yeah, maybe just can you crack the bag under Josh's nose so we can— he's got a good snout on him, I'll tell you that much. I can smell it. Careful, you're going out of shot. Don't go any further, dill will come to you.
Josh: Don't go back.
Tommy: Now you're coming into my shot. Okay, he's now sneezing.
Josh: You don't have a shot.
Tommy: Sniff it. Sniff hard. Sniff it. He's got his nose in it. You need to go to our YouTube channel, /thedailytalkshow, and watch this.
Josh: It's Asian, I think.
Tommy: Is it?
Josh: Let me have one more smell.
Tommy: Let me smell it. Okay. I'm smelling it too. Do you know what comes to mind? Chimichanga.
Josh: I think— Chimichanga. No, no, no, not Mexican at all. I think it's something along the lines of a dumpling.
George: Okay.
Josh: Okay. So can I open my eyes?
George: Yeah, yeah.
Josh: Open your eyes. Okay. And so now can you— can you— which is my eyes. I saw now. Can you, can you start? I still don't want to know, so I'm going to look away.
Tommy: I just saw something.
Josh: Okay, can you get something so it's closer to my snout so I can have a proper—
Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, don't open your eyes, don't open your eyes.
Josh: Tell me when.
Tommy: Sniff.
Josh: Is it a chip?
Tommy: It's a chip! That's the first little bit. It's a chip. So there's some nice chips on top.
Josh: Oh, now is it impressive if I can tell you where the chips are from?
Tommy: I reckon that's—
Josh: yeah, no, go for it. You're making a mess. They're herbed, they're a good quality. I reckon— I'm trying to think. I've definitely had—
Tommy: is it—
Josh: is it on from Onnit?
Tommy: I don't know. But Mr. 97, can you read out what was sent through on a text message? Oh yeah, uh, I sent it to you, mate. It's on your phone.
Mason: Oh, you want that actual—
Tommy: okay, because I didn't understand it.
Josh: Can I keep opening?
Tommy: Let's get into it.
Mason: Go for it.
Josh: All right, okay, so what have we got?
Mason: So I believe it is On It Burgers, Josh.
Tommy: He got it! Yes!
Josh: I got it!
Tommy: How good is that? That's pretty good.
Josh: Have you—
Tommy: I've never eaten it on it, so I'm pretty happy. It's amazing.
Josh: Can you believe that my vulnerability inside— like, it takes a lot for me to actually say what burger place I think.
Tommy: I thought you were gonna say it takes a lot for me to say that I was wrong about it, but no, still the same.
Josh: But it's, it's I could have— oh, look at this!
Mason: Yeah, so—
Josh: oh yes, it's one of these like black—
Tommy: oh, I see what she's done. She sent through the names of the burgers, which I didn't still get because it's on here now.
Mason: Yeah, I agree.
Tommy: So number 1, Jalapeño Hero.
Josh: Yeah, very good. Amazing. Oh wow, 3D dill.
Tommy: Can we just hold up—
Josh: yeah, I've had a Jalapeño Hero.
Tommy: Okay, I would like the Jalapeño Hero just off the straight up the bat. Can you open up these two?
Josh: So the fried chicken one is going to be for Mr. 97. Oh, look at that one!
Tommy: That's got your name all over it, dude, because the onion rings.
Josh: Yeah, but that black—
Tommy: can you open up your two? And more of these up.
George: That's the black label burger.
Josh: Oh, the black—
Tommy: oh, Mr. 97's.
Josh: Oh wow, that is so good. So what is everyone gonna get?
Tommy: I want the, um, jalapeño one, if that's okay, guys.
Josh: Okay, so you have the jalapeño one. Smoke can have the black, uh, one. 3D deal, as you're the guest. I think that's a fucking primo.
George: Smoky Chic is for Mr. 97.
Josh: The fried chicken. Are you happy with chicken?
Mason: Very happy.
Josh: Is it? Now we don't know if it's free range. Will you eat it?
Tommy: You've got to be polite.
Mason: We'll be right, we'll be right.
Josh: Will you?
Tommy: Yeah. Oh yes, Maryanne, thank you very much. This has made our days. I think—
Josh: made our days—
Tommy: the rest of the days of our lives. Yeah.
Josh: Made our days. It sounds like a song, doesn't it? Made our days.
Tommy: It's so good. Like, I can't believe we didn't think about this earlier. Like, having— other than having a guest on the show do it, he did a surprise order.
Josh: Yeah, Mason, Mushy Mason.
Tommy: I had a moment where before I was like, imagine if people just look up a big media company's address and we just start getting— people just start trolling and like sending Uber Eats. Yeah, we didn't order that.
Josh: Classic.
Tommy: Says your name on it, mate.
Josh: You know, well, I know I was watching, um, listening to Howard Stern. Yeah, they have a whole security thing, like they're very particular because they get— they're worried that, you know, someone's gonna fucking kill Howard, put something in a cupcake.
Tommy: Dude, we went to, thanks to Ben Harlan, we went to Howard Stern's studio. Or we got as far as we could.
Josh: SiriusXM in the building.
Tommy: We got as far as we could to Howard Stern's studio, which is very much fucking bunkered behind that wall, behind a wall type of vibe. Yeah, I got a little video through the thick glass looking in, but it's amazing.
Josh: We heard the brisket thing.
George: What is that?
Tommy: That is brisket. Oh my God, it's like a brekkie burger or something. Mr. 97, what's, um, the one that says TL? TL, is that a— is that something?
Josh: Uh, I reckon it's something like ribs or something.
Mason: Oh, tradesman's crack.
Tommy: And mate, this is about the closest you'll come to being a tradie. All right, I'm having a bite. Mr. 97, can you, um, tell us about your experience last night with, um, the photos that went up, the traction you got? It's pretty Pretty good, mate. Tell us.
Mason: Yeah, we, uh, we got a lot of feedback. Um, Tommy, so good.
Tommy: It was—
Josh: yeah, you—
Mason: Tommy uploaded a little, uh, face swap photo. You swapped out, um, my little baby face for Tommy's— Tommy's head.
Tommy: Um, but it was all because— tell us why though.
Mason: Well, because we uploaded a video of me at choir.
Tommy: Yeah, you're about as useless retelling a storey as a cardboard box. No, I had a cute little uniform warm on.
Josh: And, uh, there was one time where I was like, oh man, if I was sick— no, I'll get it— if I was sick, Mr. 97 could fill in for me. Yeah, you see what happens when he doesn't have a little bit of prompting. He thought, like, mate, he's like, what would you talk— if you were— if you had to do the show with 3D Deal right now? I know there's food on my fucking face. It's very hard to hold.
Tommy: Doesn't even look like it could be mistaken for something else.
Josh: Like, like bodily fluids. Anyway, I've got some sour cream on my face, but I'm about to get it off in a second. Do we have serviettes?
Tommy: Yeah, we do. It's in the bag over there, but I'll get—
Josh: Okay, thank you. Uh, 3D Dill and Mr. 97, can you spend the next— it's not very good for video because people can't see you— spend the next 2 minutes doing your own podcast. Our own show. Yeah, starting off with who's going to be who. Who's more likely to be like me? Who's more likely to be like Tommy?
George: I don't know.
Tommy: That's saying that they don't like either of us and how we are as people.
Josh: I think Mr. 97 is more likely to be Tommy based on health.
Tommy: Yeah, although, uh, yesterday someone asked Dill, didn't they say in the studio, and they were like, um, something around, uh, who— oh, someone commented and said Because we put up a photo of our new studio, it's on our Instagram, but it was like something around— we were talking about this morning, they were like, oh yeah, they looked at Mr. 97 and Josh and said something about, oh, are they brothers? No, the tool, you know.
George: Oh yeah, so Amy came in the other day and she looked at the new desk we had built.
Tommy: Yeah, it's a lot of chat about my wife, isn't there?
George: And, and, uh, she was talking about the desk that we had made for 97 for his new producing desk. Yes, we got new IMAX.
Mason: It looks great.
George: It looks phenomenal.
Josh: I wonder who built it.
George: Yeah, I was the one that put it together, but she said she looked at Josh and Mason, she said, it's so good to have these handy people around. And Josh and Mason are looking at each other like they don't even know what the fuck a drill is.
Josh: Yeah, yeah, pretty much.
George: So I mean, I would— I wouldn't consider myself super handy, but I know my way around a few power tools.
Josh: But do you know the difference between fucking Thunderbolt 3 and 2?
Tommy: Yeah, yeah, not at all.
Mason: USB-C, USB-A 3.0.
Tommy: Yeah, so Mase has the tech head in him, but he also has— he's the best version of Josh. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you should strive to be like him.
Josh: Although I was saying, I reckon Mr. 97 is getting into, uh, Jordan Michaelides vibes because I was— he's, uh, uh, Mr. 97 has been doing this thing with his mouth like this You gotta watch a video for it, but, uh, it looks like he's dry reaching or something. That's silent dry reaching. What were you doing? What are you trying to do?
Mason: No, my ears are a little blocked because I've got a bit of a cold at the moment.
Josh: And so I said, trying to unblock— well, I said just hold your nose and give a little bit of pressure. He's like, oh no. Yeah, like he's worried that something's— what are you wearing?
Mason: I don't know, it's gonna like pop a blood vessel or something.
Tommy: Um, uh, Craig Harper's latest episode, he, uh, got like a blocked ear mid, and he had to— he's like, can we turn this off? I just gotta quickly— because he was doing this thing I think it's very common, like the blocked ears thing there. It just looks a bit odd.
Josh: I think that Mr. 97 might have a bit of orthorexia.
Tommy: What does orthorexia mean? Can you look up the—
Josh: look up the real definition of orthorexia?
Tommy: Orthorexia. I tell you what, this is unbelievable, Marianne. The jalapeño one is outrageous.
Mason: Yeah, an obsession with eating food that one considers healthy. Okay, is that what you meant, Josh?
Josh: Yeah, so it is exactly what I meant. Okay, and how do you— do you think that that's— it's a fair—
Mason: yeah, yeah, I reckon that's a fair assumption.
Tommy: To be honest though, when you are—
Josh: you won't even have a hot chocolate when I offer.
Tommy: Yeah, you really have to— I think from the outside it does look weird, but like when I was working in gyms and stuff, I like— my diet was so spot on. I was like a bit fucking obsessed. I think there's a lot of stuff that you need to hone in on and become obsessed with to then find the middle ground. Like, I think I've found the middle ground. It's admiring myself in the mirror last night. I don't do it that much anymore. I don't do it that much anymore, and I don't train as hard as I used to. But I think the meditating every day, the gym every second day, watching mostly what I eat, but being still pretty loose— like, this week I've been loose. Did we do the—
Josh: we didn't put out the Throwback Thursday for Briggs and TJ.
Tommy: We can do— how about a Flashback Friday?
Josh: Yeah, we could.
Tommy: It's great they just moved Throwback Thursday into Flashback Friday.
Josh: Well, because you— or, um, Seeing Back Sunday. But the—
Tommy: did you, um, something from Saturday which falls on a Sunday?
Josh: Did you, uh, you, you showed your rig in there. You lifted up your top. I was just being silly, but I definitely better shape now than you were then, do you think?
Tommy: Um, I'd come off the back of being in really good shape in terms of before I got into radio and had— I mean, this is everyone's excuse who gets fat in radio, is that, oh, it's the radio that did it. Well, there, there are the hours, but— and I was highly distracted from any of that stuff. But I used to— and I was super tired training when I was in Shepparton, so I didn't train as hard. But I'd come off the back of being a PT for 7, 8 years. So I was really thick, my legs were still really solid. Like, I've got a photo of my legs in when I just got to Shepparton for something that we do. Oh, we classic had my legs waxed, and I just had this photo, but they were much better then than they are now. So I was probably still in that, um, love myself sick, but then I got out of that. And so I, anyway, I was just looking at myself last night thinking 'Oh, it's not bad for not training as hard as I used to,' and just having a more consistent approach.
Josh: Mr. 97, what is it about the whole thing? What is actually— when you say no to a hot chocolate, what are you actually thinking?
Mason: Well, I think the whole thing stems from an obsession with the result of eating healthy. So you, like, if I feel good when I eat healthy, and so that's, that's the thing that I'm obsessed with. I want to feel good all the time. So that's why I eat healthy.
Josh: Why are you hanging out with us?
Tommy: So have you had— have you been the other way though?
George: No.
Tommy: Because it's like, so you don't—
Josh: so did you get that? Is your mum and dad hectic about this stuff too? They have to be.
Mason: Um, nah, I think, I think I've sort of enforced it on a lot of the family. Like, we've, we've like all of our dinners—
Josh: listen to this fucking guy enforcing shit. I don't want to live with this guy, the enforcer. Yeah.
Mason: Well, no, all we've just like, we've started to include like way more veggies at dinner, that sort of thing.
Josh: No, you've been enforcing us having veggies in dinner. That's, that's fair.
Tommy: Well, I think if you have to geek out on this stuff though for really to have impact.
Josh: Macros? How much are you thinking about macros?
Mason: Uh, pretty much not at all.
Tommy: Yeah, no, which is good. I don't mean geek out in the macros and the numbers and stuff. It's more geek out in the types of food, the stuff that's good for your body, working out your system. Yeah, I mean, if you thought as much about that stuff as you did about computers and tech, Josh, it's just anyone, you know, if you thought about hunting, you'd be probably a good hunter. Yeah, you'd probably get eaten by a bear.
Josh: No, but I definitely—
Mason: I—
Josh: you can't underestimate the power of obsession. Yeah.
Tommy: And do you think, do you think when does obsession become a negative?
Josh: Um, I don't know. I don't think, like, to be clear, I don't think Mr. 97, like, you're, uh, I don't think your obsession is actually negative. I think it's like a positive one. Do you have any, any obsessions, Ray Daydale?
George: I used to be really obsessed with food, like being healthy.
Josh: Really? And then you had 17 pies in Melbourne.
Tommy: What happened?
George: Well, it was in my second year of college, and like, I was, I was training on the bike like every single day, and I was just trying to optimise the food that I ate as much as humanly possible. Like I would eat white rice over brown rice on certain days or brown rice over white rice on certain days just because I like— I looked at it too analytically, I think, in terms of calorie-wise and macro-wise. I was just— I was almost too serious with it.
Josh: Yeah.
George: And it just— it became exhausting to constantly like measure everything out and track everything. So I kind of just eat to feel now and it's like I can eyeball. It's like, okay, I know I need veggies, so I'm just going to throw some broccoli in the steamer and eat it that way.
Tommy: Yesterday, a podcast with Joe Rogan. I sent it to you.
Josh: I've started watching. Did you watch it?
Tommy: I watched, yes.
Josh: He's got such big eyes, doesn't he?
Tommy: Yeah. What's his name? Can you— I don't have my phone on me.
Josh: He's an investor. He's a—
Mason: Oh yeah, yeah, the tech investor.
Tommy: Yeah.
Mason: Angel investor.
Tommy: Look him up.
Josh: Yeah.
Tommy: So amazing. I just love the way he talks. He's so smart and he just sounds like he's a lovely guy. But they were talking about Warren Buffett. Who, who's the one that eats Macca's every day? Yeah, is that Warren Buffett, uh, or Donald Trump?
Mason: Warren Buffett, who has like 6 Cokes a day or whatever.
Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tommy: They were saying, um, you know, he spends most of his days playing bridge and, you know, he's low stress for the type of life that he actually has. He's, you know, responsible for thousands and thousands of mouths. Um, he has low stress. And they were saying about how Joe was like, he eats like shit though. Yeah, but he's like, low stress is the one of the most important things.
Josh: And so it's like, so you're saying if, if I'm less stressful eating, Big Mac should be cool with it?
Tommy: Well, I think if you were really low stress and you probably meditated every day and nothing really fazed you too much, you weren't anxious, I think maybe what they were saying is like, maybe bad food, maybe bad food isn't the thing that will kill you more, more than what stress— stress will kill you quicker than food will.
Josh: Yeah, so I mean, it sounds— you know, that sounds good for me.
Tommy: I know, I was listening going, this is fucking appealing. That's why I text you and said, bro, get on to this.
Josh: I also liked that he was talking about— he says to people, I'm a happy person. Yeah, that was good, wasn't it? That's similar to the thing you were talking about the other day, which was like, good things happen to us.
Tommy: Yeah, little mantra, good things happen, which—
Josh: good things happen to us, I feel I feel like it's—
George: Don't like it?
Josh: I don't like it as much.
Tommy: Why?
Josh: I think good things happen to us makes— maybe there's a— it's a bit grandiose. It's like, ah, that we're somewhat special, which I sort of— I just think like, you know what, we're just—
Tommy: I mean, it's nice to be called special. Like Marianne said to me on the phone yesterday, thanks to Uber Eats again, she met me at a time that I was 20. Yeah, I remember I was with girlfriend at the time, Jessie, and I was like, just need to find myself a bit. I wasn't that happy, and I went on Craig's camp. I went on Craig's camp because I was like wanting to work a whole lot of stuff out. Did you just say Jessie was my girlfriend?
Josh: You've never said that before.
Tommy: No, I haven't.
Josh: Um, she's your shrooty.
Tommy: She was a serious girlfriend for a couple of years, and we were adults. All right, so a bit different to old S-Dog.
Mason: Probably kissed as well, Josh.
Tommy: Oh, if that's what you call it, mate. Anyway, kissed. Yeah, we kissed, we kissed. Anyhow, it's not the point of the storey talking about her. I won't bring names into it again.
Josh: But you did. Who broke up with who?
Tommy: Um, oh man. Oh, that was—
Josh: I so never officially broke up.
Tommy: It's still a story. I don't want to get into it. Yeah, but there's a pretty sure she broke up with me But I had this shitty belief, which is great because it was a great belief in hindsight now that I'm with my beautiful wife Amy and I have little bubba boy Bodhi. But I had this belief that I couldn't get further in my career being in a relationship. Whether it's true or not is another thing. You guys have ridden the storm. I think most couples that are together from that like teen into the late 30s and beyond they ride a storm of— it's internal. It's like, I wanna— I need to explore the world. I don't want to be held down. And I think my brother has done it. I think you've done it. You get through this period where it's like, this is fucking amazing. We're actually using what we have that most people don't to our advantage.
Josh: Well, there's an alignment thing. Yeah, like at a very practical level, it's like, oh fuck, we can actually share the cost of a hotel.
Tommy: Yeah.
Josh: And we could try— like, Bree and I travelled for 4 months or whatever.
Tommy: Now you're talking Mason's talk.
Josh: Yeah, exactly. Well, Mason's like, no, I know I need my space. She has her room, I have mine.
Tommy: Anyway, so I—
Josh: But maybe we could have joining rooms.
Tommy: Marianne and I met at Craig's camp, as I said, and I was 20. I was going through that period of time. I think I was still with the girl, the girl, Jessie.
Josh: You'll regret saying her name, you've never said it before.
Tommy: I know, I don't really care, it's so long ago now. Like, I've been— Amy and I are almost about to celebrate our third year round of Wedding anniversary.
Josh: Wow, crazy. Wasn't invited to his wedding. Yeah, another story.
Tommy: Just missed out. Um, we can do it again in Vegas. Would I have—
Josh: that's fine.
Tommy: I hate putting pressure on people. If we did it now, I would let you emcee it because you don't drink.
Josh: I was hoping best man.
Tommy: No, I went with my brothers. It's such an easy one if you've got two. I had— I've got two brothers, went with them for my— I didn't have a best man. I had two, two of the guys.
Josh: I would have loved Campton and I you know, Jimmy just sort of standing there with the— just our hands sort of, you know, you sort of put your hands together like you're covering your penis for some reason, just sort of being polite, or you're handcuffed. Anyway, so actually all your mates would be— they're all on parole, sort of standing there or whatever, really nice that they could.
Tommy: Anyway, so I met her at a time that I was exploring, and I, and I was just— I felt so restless. Yeah, I think a lot of people go through this, and I've definitely got weathered that restless storm. And I broke up with her, and I went down this mission of, you know, getting into media, and I made a lot of things happen in my career, which was amazing. But Maryanne said the nicest thing, which I think everyone— I'd never, I'd never— I'm not good at taking compliments, I don't think. But Maryanne said that she on the camp was looking at her friend that she was there with and said, Tommy is gonna go places.
Josh: Which, when you hear that, it's like, ah, what do you mean you don't take it? Well, do you say, ah, fuck you, Maryanne?
Tommy: No, but like, in the past I've been pulled up for not taking compliments.
Josh: I think most people don't.
Tommy: And so I just lean into it and say, oh, thanks so much, that's so nice, or that's so kind. Like, I genuinely feel that. And so she said to her friend, yeah, I reckon he'll, you know, do things. And then she said, oh, you popped up with, you know, on Craig's podcast, on The Project, you know, you've seen me around. So it's amazing. And then we've reconnected now. That's— she's, um, and now paying it forward. But I was— why was I saying that story? I can't remember.
Josh: I'm sorry, I derailed you with that. It's all good, it's all good. The ex chat. But what I was going to talk about, talking about exes, uh, our friends Michelle and Zara have their new podcast. Oh yeah, called Love Etc.
Tommy: Can we call you the segue king on the show? Yeah, you're really late.
Josh: It's only a good segue if you don't mention it. It's so fucking amateur.
Tommy: 100%. Or what's amateur is the segue. I think I meet your amateur segue, uh, because it's fucking smooth.
Josh: The segue—
Tommy: no, to be honest, when you said speaking of exes and then you want anything, anytime you say speaking of, we date them, fucking— because you, you link the, the segue was— I know it's shit radio, shit, um, podcasting when we dissect what we're doing.
Josh: We can go a bit meta.
Tommy: Yeah, I was still thinking about exes, and when you brought up exes, Shameless, I was like—
Josh: You assumed that one of us had dated. What have I done? They have a new podcast called Love Etc.
Tommy: Now I get it.
Josh: It's with Bumble. Interestingly, Mr. 97 was saying Bumble have— not only do they have a dating section, but they also have a professional connection as well. Like, you can, you can, uh, add people like LinkedIn.
Mason: Yeah. Where?
Tommy: On the website?
Josh: On Bumble?
Tommy: On the app?
Mason: Yeah, I think— I, I've got no idea. I just read it somewhere that they've got like multiple sections.
Tommy: Is it women only though? They should have the idea. Josh and I are old burnt-out units.
Josh: Oh, we just got some news from Peter Shepherd. International Donut Day.
Tommy: So, Ruru sent this through. Stu So sent it through. We, we have We have missed it.
Josh: Like, could we do it on Monday?
Tommy: Nah, definitely not. No, no way.
Josh: Yes.
Tommy: No, because Monday I want to keep my diet. I know it's— we're going into the long weekend and Queen's birthday.
Josh: No, we'll definitely have a dinner. No, we can't because Shortstop— can we get Shortstop delivered?
George: I think if we—
Tommy: I think we do it today, celebrate Friday. We would maybe put some— pump some music in the office. Maybe Mason will give us a, you know, a few bars.
Josh: We'll see how we go.
George: We could do anything and do an Instagram storey about it, share the love.
Josh: Amazing. I mean, Bree was talking about— she just randomly— we've been so wired lately on our phones. But anyway, go cheque out their new podcast, it's very good. It is. I listened to the whole thing this morning. Mr. 97 listened to it all as well.
Tommy: Did he get something out of it?
Josh: Did you— what, did you get anything?
Tommy: As in for himself? I'm talking tips.
Mason: Oh no, this was more about like— the first episode was more on like heartbreak and stuff. But I, I thought it was really good because they were like, you haven't experienced it, have you? No, but like, I mean, Zara and Michelle were opening up a lot and it was really like raw and honest.
Tommy: So it's about heartbreak.
Mason: Yeah, it's great, it's commendable.
Josh: I actually like it even more than Shameless because my favourite part of Shameless is the first like 5 minutes when they're like, what you've been up to for the week.
Tommy: I'm talking about them.
Josh: Yeah. And so this, and this was just that. It was just because I don't know all the celebrities and shit. And so, but when they're talking about like, oh yeah, like Zara was talking about her breakup, which funnily, if you go to our episode, this was early days, we put our foot in it. Well, I said something and then I didn't put foot— I was—
Tommy: I picked up—
Josh: I pride myself on— I'm quite good with a few things, uh, picking redundancies. If someone's gonna be made redundant within a business, I sort of know first.
Tommy: You know first from how?
Josh: Uh, I know I was just very good at, uh, understanding people's moods and everything and how it was going to go. That was in a previous job. HR would get really frustrated because I would front-foot it too. I'm like, yeah, yeah, hey guys, just so you know, I reckon X, Y, and Z is going to happen. And then I would— it's so annoying though, like it's an upset mood, people have been made redundant, someone's been fired, someone quit. Well, if you read the Glassdoor reviews. I didn't, but no, I did. I actually, I did do a lot of work, but they, um, the— sorry, I just licked my finger. Uh, yeah, but people, the, the big, the telltale sign specifically for, uh, quitting a job is LinkedIn activity.
Tommy: Oh yeah, I think one of your best pieces of advice was don't wait till you get fired to update your LinkedIn. Keep it updated.
Josh: Exactly. Yeah, don't wait until you have a fight with your boss before you start fucking putting in your education information into LinkedIn. Just, just do it every few weeks.
Tommy: Yeah, I tell you what, there's a lot of gronks out there though that don't want to work. Like, and I get it if you can't work. So Amy's been trying to find some people to do some contract work. She's taken a whole lot of resumes and also taken a whole lot that just send dot points through. Like, this is ridiculous. Like, literal dot points of just, here's what I've done. Not even a resume. Booked in interviews, and it gets to the time, 11:30, the meeting's meant to happen. The boss calls this person, says, hey mates, blah blah blah, from blah blah blah. Uh, hi, um, yeah, I'm just calling about the interview you've got at 11:30. It's 11:35. Said, oh yeah, I'm just, I don't, I'm not going to make it, I'm just on the way to Centrelink. So what this means is, because it must be pretty fucking, they're not hiring a CFO, they're definitely not hiring tradies. But the point is that people, yeah, not everyone wants to fucking work. Yeah, it's, um, gronk town.
Josh: Yeah, uh, one thing that I do love about Mr. 97 is how hard he works.
Tommy: I mean, first job, you're doing a stellar job, son.
Josh: And I was telling Bri, I was like, he keeps me accountable.
Tommy: Well, you're—
Josh: because he's— because I, I tend to dart around and all that sort of thing, and he is very good at like— he puts his— I take the energy, I do the things that I am telling myself. Yeah, Josh, do the thing. But I say to like Mr. 97, I say, hey, do the thing. Yeah, he's like— but it puts his headphones on, works all day, like 6 hours.
Tommy: I said to you yesterday, mate, I don't think I can work as hard as these people anymore. This is— maybe like, we've done a whole heap of hard work, but I think it's different types of work too.
Josh: Like, we've we've got the show and we're doing all that sort of thing, and then we have our client work, which we— we're just taking on work at the moment. We're lucky that we're in a position where all the projects we have, we love, and they're all great clients. And so that— it works out really well. But the thing that I notice is just how efficient I can be by just getting Mr. 97 to do certain things.
Tommy: I mean, we need 7 of him. Hey, um, did you find out who was on Joe Rogan that we're talking about?
Mason: Yeah, his His name was Naval Ravikant.
Tommy: So cool. Anyway, he owns a tech company and he said that he wants all of his staff and he will help them start their own business. He said the future of work, he thinks, looks like small sprints. So he thinks it will be like a— it's almost like an AirTasker, but not mundane tasks, not simple stuff.
Josh: It'll be like the gig economy.
Tommy: It'll be like Yeah, but he takes it even further of like, um, you say you were proficient, Mr. 97, at editing, right? And so you can see your task get pushed through to you that is a project where you could sprint for 3 weeks, 4 weeks, and then not work for a heap of time. And so it's about— he's like, we don't want to be working all the time and stressed and, you know, anxious. So you just work really hard for short periods and have you know, be in Tahiti.
Josh: Well, I think the other thing too is I love the sound of it, but I think we're always working too. I think like that's the other thing is it's, uh, we just— I think you and I are pretty similar in the things that we want to do. We're so, so good at and we spend so much time on it. And so I guess that's what's good about having a team. If we can obsess on the things that we're really good at and then have other people doing the things that we're not good at Yeah, that feels like a better outcome than spending years and years and years trying to get better at the shit that we're not good at.
Tommy: 100%. I mean, I even feel with, with us, every Friday we do like a retrospect at the end of the day where we talk about what's happened.
Josh: Bit of a gratitude session.
Tommy: Yeah, I like it.
Josh: Do we want to do it now?
Tommy: I thought we could do it now.
Josh: Yeah, um, let's start with 3D Deal.
Tommy: Yeah, 3D Deal.
Josh: What are you grateful for for the week?
George: What am I grateful for for the week? Um, the opportunity to showcase what I'm capable of and how that can relate to the daily talk show and big media company. Yeah, like with even with building the desk, getting stuff set up for the studio, you're going into Bunnings, going into Bunnings and just getting stuff so that we can situate that. But not even that I'm capable of buying things. It's like I'm— that you guys are entrusting me with the responsibility to take care of certain things around the studio that then push forward and are relevant to how we all move forward.
Tommy: Josh, did you give you his PIN number for—
Josh: I wasn't gonna mention it. I'll need to change that because I'm sure if anything, if I have a fraud case, which based on you being my business partner is likely, they, they get funny about giving PINs.
Tommy: I'd pull you aside and just say, mate, it's Dil. Mate, look at this. Far out. I was just thinking about a Melbourne Football Club player, ex-player, Um, I actually shouldn't say he's died now. That got really dark. He passed away in a car crash. I won't say it anyway.
Josh: Okay, so, uh, that was—
Tommy: used a company credit card for something. Yeah, anyway, that's it.
Josh: Okay, uh, Mr. 97, that was very good. 3D Dill, thanks for sharing.
Tommy: Amazing. I just want to say that, um, also maybe we say something.
Josh: Oh yes, yes, yes. Can I start?
Tommy: You can start. Yeah, go for it.
Josh: Uh, I'm grateful for Dill and His ability to be autonomous, to be creative, to be able to work it out without having to— like, I'm never worried. Yeah. And I also, in his very— just like Mr. 97, you're even saying that a lot of your classmates weren't necessarily— like, they would sort of wait until last minute to do stuff and cram and things like that. And one thing that 3D Dill prides himself on is not doing that and actually, like, getting the work done. And so I'm very grateful because that's not my personality, is like, let's cram last minute, last minute.
Tommy: Yeah, anxious.
Josh: No, I haven't been that anxious. Maybe I should be.
Tommy: No, no, no, I don't want you to be. I don't want you— like, I think we can— I think you can— have you noticed that?
Josh: Like, if even things push, I might—
Tommy: I appreciate that. Um, do you want to say anything? Yeah, I won't go into what I'm grateful for, but I just love that we can trust you And you work really hard.
George: Thank you.
Tommy: And you're a good vibe around the office.
George: I try.
Tommy: I try.
Mason: Listen, I think having our regional shoot during the week, it sort of helped me to realise how good everything is at the moment and how grateful and lucky I am to be doing what I'm doing. Yeah, just the fact that we can go up and have an awesome shoot, um, with an awesome client, and then we can also do the show and pump all of it out. Yeah, it's really cool.
Josh: Do you want to, do you want to say what you're grateful for, for 297?
Tommy: The workhorse, the young— I mean, I'm thinking that it's probably him who's got the highest testosterone, to be honest, with the amount of work he can put in.
Josh: Yeah, not being, uh, not getting motion sick. Him not getting motion sick, I'm grateful for. He edited in the car. Yeah, I would have vomited on my—
Tommy: He's had a bit of a baby boy cold. Which he's pushed through. He's not someone that— I mean, first jobs, a lot of people would probably just, I'm a bit sick, I'm a bit feeling run down. But he— I feel like you treat this business and this show like it's your own, which I want you to.
Josh: Yeah, yeah, it's nice. It made my ears ring. That's nice. Yeah, you know, that happens. Yeah, I think it's my tinnitus whenever people being nice.
Tommy: I think, um, yeah, for all of us, yeah, the going away, getting everything together, I feel like From, from a zoomed out position, I feel like this team is quite coherent and everyone is really fucking operating as, as a solid Mighty Duck V. I know what I mean.
Josh: Should we watch, uh, should we make it as a bit of a pack? Should we all watch separately, uh, Mighty Ducks tonight?
Tommy: Uh, not really. I'd rather have a movie night with all, all of us in the studio here. That'd be fun.
Mason: Bit of John Wick.
Tommy: Yeah, John Wick.
Josh: Is that even out yet?
Tommy: Fuck, he's good.
Mason: Oh, we can watch 1, 2.
Tommy: Okay. And I'm sure the baby boy can download 3 from somewhere online.
Josh: Absolutely not. But if you're, if you're a TV company, we're looking for TVs.
Tommy: 100%. We're looking for some big screens.
Josh: Yeah. And so we want to do a, want to do a hashtag deal, Ash Williams style.
Tommy: What are you, what are you grateful for? Uh, and then sign it off and we're done.
Josh: For the whole show.
Tommy: Yeah, we've been going for like 40 minutes.
Mason: We've gone for 38 minutes. Yes.
George: Fuck.
Josh: This show has flown by, hasn't it?
Tommy: Because we were powered by Marianne's order.
Josh: Yeah, thank you. I mean, I'm grateful. Broadly speaking, I'm grateful for the people who listen and watch and contribute online. Like, the numbers have been going up and seeing the interactions too. I'm grateful for that, that people actually think that we're worth consuming, which is unbelievable. Uh, in regards to the overall thing, I'm just grateful. I'm just grateful that we have a team that like is happy. Isn't that like— I think that's part of it. It's like we're effective, we're happy, and it feels like everyone's pulling their weight and contributing and has purpose.
Tommy: Yeah, I've, I've wanted to create a team for a long time. I've thought about it a lot, I've obsessed about it, and I know— and I— it's funny how things happen, right?
Josh: So it's, uh, who would have thought that this was the way that was going to happen? Yeah. And just think about if it was— if we did it any other way, how different— like, being a partnership and then having the team has been so much easier because it feels like we've if we were doing— if we just had a team and it was solo, we'd have to do the work on ourselves on everyone else. But it feels like you and I have gone through the shitstorms that partnerships do to then come out the end of like actually being good for us but also good for the whole team.
Tommy: Yeah, go quick, go alone, go far, go together. It's— it definitely feels like that's how you can really see how that's a True say.
Josh: Yes. It's a daily talk show. Maryanne, thanks so much. Before we go, I did want to say the Hey Tiger link. Oh, yeah. The coupon stuff. There's been half a dozen people who have taken us up. They've got patches and all that sort of thing in the mail. So, it's still on, I think, till the 26th of June. 26th of June. If you go to heytiger.com.au do an order and use the coupon code 'The Daily Talk Show,' you'll get a free mystery mini bar plus stickers and the patches of The Daily Talk Show.
Tommy: It's not a discount code, it's an add-on, so you get free stuff. Yeah, because Derek, Scooter Derek, yeah, ordered and he's like, 'Oh, there was no discount, but I still bought it.' I was like, 'No, mate.' Yeah, listen to what we say. He did, and he got the code.
Josh: He did the notes he put a bunch of notes. Yeah, it was like— and so Bree was told that she had to, rather than getting it delivered, to give it to me and I would give it to him.
Tommy: Yeah, that's dangerous.
Josh: So dangerous. Well, the thing is, it's still fucking at my place. Like, I haven't eaten it. No. Well, the thing was that there was like a little extra chocolate outside the bag that Bree had got as like a sample. And she's like, I'll just give this to Derek.
Tommy: And then he didn't know about that.
Josh: I fucking— well, I ended up telling him.
George: On—
Josh: I was on the phone yesterday with him. I said, hey Scooter, just saying— which, you know, he loves being called Scooter. Scooter, mate, I ate your, uh— I didn't eat the Mystery Mini because that would be eating part of his order, but I did eat the sample thing. So much of my life has been— where's my book? So exactly, that's a very good reference. I talk about the book, the Seth Godin stuff's happening as well. July 1st is going to be a big announcement. July 1st, put it in the calendar. Seriously, put it in the calendar.
Tommy: Production's happening.
Josh: What do you mean?
Tommy: I hope you can do it. Like, we've got a lot of work.
Josh: Oh yeah, sure.
Tommy: A lot of shows to produce.
Josh: Just with the Seth going—
Tommy: let's just, just bring it up. So just maybe touch base one more time before the end of the month, and, um, and if you don't do it, we'll just skip it.
Josh: Yeah. And thank you for the Apple Podcast reviews too. If you haven't yet Done an Apple Podcast review. If you watch on YouTube and haven't yet subscribed, click that subscribe button. Otherwise, we will see you on Monday, which is a public holiday. Do we know what public holiday it is?
Tommy: Yeah, Queen's birthday.
George: The Queen's birthday.
Tommy: Which is not her actual birthdate. So, I don't know what the Queen's doing.
Josh: It's just when she has her party. She's having her party.
Tommy: Pre-party.
Josh: Most people have their party not on their birthday. Makes sense.
Tommy: I mean, my birthday fell on a Saturday. On my 30th, how fucking great is that?
Josh: That was good.
Tommy: On my birthday this year, Sunday, Father's Day and me birthday.
Josh: Good things happen.
Tommy: Boom boom, good things happen to me. Other than, I mean, the good thing that happened to me was I was born. For my sake, it's fucking good.
Josh: Yeah, it's great. Did your mum mention the fact that you filmed her saying that I was—
Tommy: I haven't spoken to her, so.
Josh: Do you reckon she's listened?
Tommy: Um, she does keep up to date. Uh, probably not. She wouldn't text me.
Josh: It's a Dad's Talk Show. We'll see you Monday.
Tommy: See you guys.
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