Dating, Centrelink & Screen Time

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 647.

Tommy: What's happening, guys? What's going on? Happy Tuesday. What is happening?

Josh: Have you already lost, uh, lost count on what day it is?

Tommy: Is it Tuesday?

Josh: Shit, that is, it is. But I feel like it is quite hard to work out what day it is at the moment.

Tommy: I mean, yeah, I mean, I've been thrown into a, uh, a whirlwind with Bodhi and I at home.

Josh: Well, we had to delay the episode because Bodhi asked if you could wipe his asshole. That's his words.

Tommy: He used the term asshole. I appreciate that he uses the technical term asshole. But yes, I did have to wipe his asshole.

George: Have you wiped?

Tommy: Have you been wiping anyone's asshole today?

Josh: No, no, that's sort of— I've made my baked eggs. Yeah, wipe my own asshole. Thank you. Yeah, made my baked eggs, went on the Shakti mat. Things are good.

Tommy: Yeah, and we've got George joining us today. He's bunkered in at the office holding the fort. How's it going at the office, George?

George: It's good. Yeah, it's pretty fun.

Josh: I feel bad holding the fort. When you say holding the fort, it's sort of, for some reason, that's quite unnerving.

George: Yeah, no, I'm holding the fort. It's good. I've kept everything clean. I've wiped everything down.

Tommy: You actually have? Are you pulling our leg?

George: No, legitimately.

Tommy: Where did you find anything, any sanitising products in that office to use?

Josh: In the kitchen? Just the kitchen spray. How's the kitchen looking?

George: Kitchen's great. Never looked better.

Tommy: The thing is we got it pretty clean before we vacated to our home setups. This morning I went for a drive. I wanted to drive Amy to work. She's still having to work. Crazy. Another story, but we decided to go for a drive and we drove to Centrelink. Bodhi and I, I was like, "Bodhi, we're going to go have a look at, see if there's a line at Centrelink." And mate, it was ginormous. It looked like the opening of Krispy Kreme, but not as satisfying at the end of it.

Josh: Or satisfying if you get some cash.

Tommy: Well, I mean, you get cash, but you're still in a situation. You're still in a situation. I mean, I got real dark last night. I was working out how much money we have and how long we can last. And when you really sort of go there, it's hard. Like, it seems— I don't think we do this enough. Like, when was the last time you looked at your own personal finances and thought, How long until all of this money runs out and I have zero cents to my name?

Josh: I think that whenever someone does a budget, they're always counting on having a salary. Well, that's the biggest, that's the biggest shift, is the biggest shift is it's like everyone was surviving, they were all surviving fine, but then when you take out the money bit, like they're actually receiving money, that's where it becomes a problem.

Tommy: Yeah, I kind of looked at it as Plan A, Plan B, Plan C, Plan D. Plan D being the dire straits, the zero job, zero money before you look at what, you know, any help. And usually you don't ever do that because it's like, it's not that productive. You should focus on like, well, if Plan A doesn't work, there's another way to make the money and, you know, survive. And usually it's like, I'll just get a job, you know, it's like, I'm trying this new startup or I'm doing this new business. I can always fall back on working somewhere. And like at the moment, that isn't necessarily people's options of just being able to get a job somewhere.

Josh: If we had to look at the jobs, sort of essential jobs, and we had to pick one that we sort of applied for a job in that area, what do you think, TJ, you, you would go for? I'm guessing the cop. You mentioned cops.

George: Cops.

Tommy: Yeah. I mean, hard time to be a cop, like interacting with a lot of people is not what I want. I think, Josh, you and I were speaking about like, you know, the business as usual in 6 months' time, if that becomes a thing, right? People's, people's beliefs, people's way of living or viewing, interacting with other people. Like maybe that, you know, the social distancing becomes a new normal where, you know, you're not just going to a nightclub, make out, actually you probably still will be if they open the clubs up. But, you know, like just making out with randos or getting close with, you know, someone on a date. Like it's so bizarre to think of where it can shift. In answer to your question, I mean, I always saw the— and I think it's probably cream of the crop, right? The dudes—

Josh: The bottle-o.

Tommy: No, no, the dudes who are driving the sand, the beach sweepers, and they do it early morning and they're in there, they got their headphones on, the heater, and they're just combing, combing the sand. Like, that would be You're by yourself, you're in there. But I think to get to that, you know, it's probably a pecking order, you know, to get any of those positions. But I think Coles, working at Coles— I saw a funny meme yesterday or something like, you know, teachers told you off in class for not listening and said you'd be packing shelves for the rest of your life. And then it's like packing shelves is, is the top now. Yeah, in the future.

Josh: Have you thought about this? What would your you know, if you couldn't edit anymore, what you would do?

George: I always wanted to be a firefighter.

Josh: Oh yeah?

George: But it's pretty gruesome work. I didn't realise, like, they're the guys who get called out to the car accidents and stuff and like, you know, people getting hit by trains and stuff like that.

Tommy: Yeah.

George: Ambos are there to work on people that are still alive, I'm pretty sure. But if you squashed by a car. Yeah, that's when the fireys come in.

Tommy: So, fireys are also first responders for cardiac arrests as well. So, they do, they're well equipped, fireys.

Josh: And so then, so you're not going to do that, George? So, what is it going to be?

Tommy: You have to choose one right now.

George: Tram driver.

Josh: Oh, yeah? Do you reckon people are going to go on?

George: Actually, no, no, I've changed my mind. 'Cause I would do that if you could listen to podcasts or something, but you probably can't.

Josh: No. So, what are you gonna do?

George: I mean, nurse maybe.

Josh: Oh, yeah. That'd be cool. Yeah. You'd be caring, George. What do you need to do to be a nurse? Yeah. You would be a great nurse.

Mason: Yeah, you would.

George: Thanks.

Josh: That's okay. I mean it. I want you looking after me if I get sick. Sam, what would you do?

Mason: Maybe a postman.

Josh: Oh, yeah, that's good.

Mason: I think that'd be good because it'd be pretty chill on the motorbike.

Josh: What about a courier? Would you?

Mason: No, I think postman's probably better. I think I'd want the bike.

Josh: Can you handle the letters? You can only handle the small envelopes?

Mason: No, but I think the bike's a fun bit because you can send that down the roads. All the roads are empty, so.

Josh: But motorbikes aren't a thing. Like, postie motorbikes, are they still a thing? Yeah. Yeah. In the suburbs, they're all like bikes. I just assumed that this was the new norm.

Tommy: I mean, in Bulleen, I saw a guy yesterday. Bodhi and I walked to the shops. I decided to go on like a longer walk to the other shops to get our stuff. To do a bit of exercise because I've been lazy as fuck. And we walked past a postie that had like one of the pushers. And so he's on foot and there was a lot of, lot of post that he had equipped. But dude, that was the biggest nightmare. Just quickly, took his pram. We opted for a $15 pram. It was a pusher. So it's like when they grow older, kids don't, you know, don't need the full-size pram that you have when they're babies. And so we bought this cheap little shitty one that—

Josh: $15?

Tommy: 15 bucks, mate.

Josh: Because you hear people spending hundreds of dollars. Well, yeah, we did that at the start. Is it the safety equivalent of just riding a motorbike? Like, is he—

Tommy: No, it's no frills. Do you remember as a kid, you would have been in one.

Josh: They just can't stop suddenly or he'll be decapitated.

Tommy: Mate, here's what happens. I was walking back and this place is probably 2 km away from my house. I'm about sort of a km away and a wheel blows out and I've got 2 heavy bags of shopping. I've got Bodhi's scooter and Bodhi and now I've got a broken pram. And so Bodhi has to walk and we're on a main road and it's dangerous and then Bodhi falls over and smashes his face and now he looks like he's got a little Hitler moustache because he's got a graze just below his nose and he's screaming and, you know, bleeding. And I'm just, oh, mate, I nearly lost it. I'm so—

Josh: What did you do at that moment? How didn't you lose it?

Tommy: Well, the confronting of the losing it bit was losing it would have looked like me just smashing that pram against the wall and walking off and leaving it there. And I was like, that's too much of a gronk move to leave a broken pram on the side of it. Like, I saw an abandoned house. I'm like, I'm fucking throwing this thing.

Josh: Had you just bought the pram? The pusher?

Tommy: No, it's like a couple of months. We never use it though, because he's—

Josh: I painted the picture in my head that you went to the shops, bought the $15 pusher, and then on the way home it fucked up. And I was like, you know what, this doesn't make sense.

Tommy: I went to Audi. I probably could have bought one at Audi.

Josh: Definitely.

Tommy: There was all sorts of shit going on there. Bought a $14 bottle of Pinot Noir from the Yarra Glen.

Josh: And it was not bad. You're gonna have that on Friday?

Tommy: I had it already last night by the fire.

Josh: Oh, so nice.

Tommy: I mean, Amy got home from work. I broke it. I feel like I'm a, you know, stay-at-home dad, just chilling with Bodhi all day, and then I'm drinking at 4.

Josh: Perfect.

Tommy: But me and Bodhi had a fire for 3, 4 hours yesterday.

Josh: How much wood does that require?

Mason: No wonder why you needed the wood that I gave you.

Tommy: We did a stick hunt. Stick hunt. That's what I say to Buddy. Let's go for a stick hunt. And so we got some twigs and a few bits, and then Mason topped me up today. Anyway, Josh, what would you choose? What, what occupation would your soft hands apply yourself to? Very soft industry, obviously.

Josh: Yeah, I'm just trying to think.

Tommy: Now you'd be the web guy at some kind of hospital.

Josh: Yeah, probably. If times were tough, I'd probably all of a sudden become religious and just get some sort of church job being the AV guy. True.

Tommy: I mean, churches are in a pickle.

George: Yeah, churches are closed as well.

Tommy: A lot of Amy's friends work for Hillsong. Yeah, what are they doing? They're at home. I know Nick. He's at home at the moment with his fam. And so, mate, there's no services on that in person. So that's the weird thing about sex with a lot of money.

Josh: The sects, SE, or sects, not sex, sects.

Mason: That's a lot.

George: Well, that, that industry would be down too. What, just the sex industry?

Josh: Yeah. No touching.

Tommy: All right.

George: No touching.

Tommy: Yeah, I saw an article of like a strip club in the States is closed and now they're doing delivery service. So they're going to front doors. I just haven't heard of it.

Josh: Did I just hear a landline phone ring?

Tommy: It's our Samsung washing machine. Okay, and it has a noise like this. Bing, bing, bing, doo doo doo. It sounds like a Nokia 5210 from back in the day. Sad state at my house though, boys. It has come a time from this horrific, unprecedented times that the spa has been emptied completely.

Mason: You've done it.

George: How'd you do it?

Tommy: Bucket.

George: Really?

Tommy: Which is even more sad with the idea of filling it back up. Not until we're in a better financial position.

Josh: How much is this costing to run?

Tommy: We'll see now because we've just turned it off. So we'll be able to compare like last month's. So we'll be able to compare April's bill to March's bill and see what the difference is. And then we'll give it a live update on the show, obviously.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: See how much it's costing.

Mason: I reckon around $30 to $50 a day. Sorry, a month.

Josh: A month. A month.

Mason: A month. A month.

Tommy: Like, see, I mean, in normal times, like $30 to $50, I'm happy to wear that even if we use it once a fortnight and then the chemicals on top. But this time, dude, it's all about just stripping back and getting lean.

Josh: What have you guys cut? George, have you cut any of your expenses?

George: Well, I did the Adobe thing yesterday. That was fun.

Josh: Oh, great.

George: Yeah, that was 3 months free Adobe.

Josh: Well, Tommy, everyone just asked for 3. I think 3, they're actually officially giving 3. Okay. Um, but, uh, no, Tommy, Tommy, you pushed for 4.

Tommy: Well, I, I thought they would give 3, and so I thought, why not ask for 4? Because there's a chance they could say okay. And so you just highball, and they're going to give you what they think. And so I did for— did you copy that text?

Josh: I did. Yeah.

Tommy: Good, because I sent Josh and I said, here's the link and here's the text, copy and paste it into— because we have personal accounts.

Josh: Yeah, that was very easy. It was very good. Yeah, there was heaps of people. Have you stopped anything else, George?

Tommy: Um, tell them, George, what did you buy on Sunday night?

George: What did you get on Sunday night?

Tommy: Starts with V and ends with B. VB.

George: Yeah, just got a case of beer in case everything went to lockdown. Yeah, that's good. What else?

Tommy: He got the shittiest beer for the lockdown.

Josh: Oh, was it really VB?

Mason: I was joking.

Tommy: Yeah, Victoria Bitter.

Josh: Oh, that's funny. The Fixation, which is across the road from my place. What's it called when they start doing cans, like these microbreweries do cans? There's like a name for it. I could probably say, give me a second, I'm looking out the window. They're closed. But they, no, they started doing cans of drink and they were out the front sort of trying to get people in to buy because normally people go in, it's like a beer, you know, place where you sit in.

Tommy: Yeah. Yeah. It is sad. Like I drove around today just looking and seeing. The effect there is so— I was in— Amy and I, like, it's probably the first night where we were slightly buzzed from the, you know, Pinot Noir from Aldi and just mind racing, just thinking about all the people affected. And we kind of went through it and, you know, it was pretty dark actually to think about all of our friends that have businesses and And it's not even like it's just the support it gives, even if it's an average business, whatever it is, it's like just supporting the livelihood of family, people in their life. And so it got a bit dark.

George: It was crazy even watching like ScoMo and Albo the other day in Parliament talking about it. And they were like, Oh, just, it just was a big like pump up to the country being like, you know, we can get through this, blah, blah. But it felt pretty genuine and it gave me that feeling of like, we'll look back on this time and we'll be like, where were you when, when you heard? It was almost like the apology speech kind of, you know.

Josh: I actually, I didn't buy them because I'm trying to cut down costs as well, but I nearly bought a bunch of books. I put them in my cart, all about the Great Depression. I thought, like, let's just, like, lean into this whole everything's fucked. But it would be pretty irresponsible if I feel like if I spent my money on about the hard times and, like, it just seems a bit counter.

Tommy: Grace says she's going to the bottle-o later this morning in case of lockdown as well.

Josh: Hayden Dibbs saying that he's bought an audio interface, a case of Mountain Goat, and 3 bottles of wine. Ready for lockdown.

Tommy: Jordan Michaelides, he's cut everything down, saving 60% of his income. Jeez, solid effort. 60% of nothing is nothing. It's, yeah, I mean, what about, what about the, any changes in your behaviour that you've noticed? Like for me, I've had these long fingernails and I usually, Josh, you and I, we just bite to the right length, but we don't, and then you're done. Bite them to the right length, then you're done. I haven't been biting my nails. Yesterday at the supermarket, this old gronk had the thickest, you know those gardening rubber gloves? Looks like you could definitely inseminate a cow and not get anything on you. You know what I mean? Like they're real.

Josh: Not with your sharp nails.

Tommy: He did this. He had these thick gloves. I was like, oh, that's pretty effective. And then he just does this.

Josh: I just wiped his face.

Tommy: Wiped his face.

Josh: Not good. Yeah, yeah. I think I've started to, um, ask people how they're going more. Oh, that's actually— but I did it this morning, um, so I was calling a video camera company because we're getting a final bit of gear for our remote setup, and I just called and said, hey, just making sure I'm able to get this, like, when's it going to come, blah blah blah. It was all nice. He's a little bit prickly, this guy, already. And I just said, he said, yeah, you could pick it up if you wanted to, or we can drop it, like we'll be able to deliver it by Friday, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, perfect. Right. Well, I'll, once I get the notification, I'll give you a buzz. He's like, perfect. I was like, oh, how's everything going at your end anyway? He's like, alright, catch ya. Bye. Hung up on me. Did he? Yeah. And it was like I had that sick feeling in your throat where it's It's like someone's just completely rejected you. And I was just— it took me a while to— actually, the only thing that got me out of that little rut was Scooter Derek's comment to 97. So on Instagram, we posted Mr. 97 racking up the expensive SMS. Bill, and the joke is that he's messaging Grace a lot.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And Grace said, still waiting for that message. 97 wrote back, good banter, with a tick.

Tommy: I'm surprised it wasn't there you go.

Josh: Exactly. Well, it's basically that. And then Scooter Derek then says, imagine you in Gone with the Wind, kiss me, Rhett. Good banter. Yeah, so, so that got me in a better mood. It was very funny. Hi, Queen Gronkh is joining us as well. Just saying that in the live YouTube.

Tommy: So, so you're saying that you're asking people how they're going, which is lovely. What about you, Dodge?

George: Probably just been, been walking way more. Yeah, like just avoiding public transport at all costs and not touching anything. Just being— I mean, just the obvious stuff. Washing my hands.

Josh: How good is washing your hands? I'm absolutely— like, I was getting the bubbles going like crazy because I just— like I said the other day, wet your hands first before you do the soap and you get real sort of movement. It's fantastic. Really enjoying it.

Tommy: Seb, what about you, mate?

Josh: I mean, knocking back chicks is what you do quite often, so that's not new. Grace says in the live chat, love getting rejected by Mr. 97. Yeah, it's, uh, yeah, so sad. What are you, what are you doing?

Mason: Um, yeah, I mean, the washing hands stuff. Um, I think the news as well. Like, I, I never, I never really look at the news. It's always The Verge. Um, which is, but now I'm going on to like, yeah, but now I'm going on to like news not news.com.au, ABC. And I'm just, I've like, yeah, it's going to appear on my screen time, the amount of times that I've gone on.

Tommy: That was me last week. It was news.com.au. Yesterday I actually had less based on having Bodhi with me. Let's cheque screen time just quickly.

Josh: Screen time from yesterday.

George: Yeah.

Tommy: Everyone on the live on YouTube, cheque your screen time right now and let's just go yesterday.

Josh: And so, okay, let's see his screen time. Oh yeah, yes, that was good.

Tommy: Good day for you.

Josh: Yeah, real good day.

Tommy: Daily average, see all activity. And so you just want to go on the, where it has the graph.

Josh: God, and he wants to go first.

Mason: Swipe.

Josh: Dodge.

Tommy: Far out.

Josh: You go first.

George: What do you get to per day? Sorry. So you, I can get to see today. Yeah, and then you 7 days.

Josh: See how you've got the little graph, the, the, um, what's the bar graph? So if you just click on the day and swipe across like you're on Tinder. Oh geez, we're asking—

Tommy: swipe for the other— swipe to yes. Yeah, this is, uh, you want to know mine?

Josh: Yeah, I think we do that while George works out how to use his phone.

Tommy: Yeah, all right, so 7 hours and 6 minutes. That was yesterday. I, to be fair, Bodhi was on YouTube because I wasn't on YouTube for 2 hours and 5 minutes.

Josh: Yeah, no, that's fair. What, uh, Samson, what did you get?

Mason: I'm only on 5 hours and 23 minutes for yesterday.

Josh: Yep. Okay.

Mason: And then previous day was 7:54.

George: Okay, this is total, right? We're not talking about individual apps.

Josh: No, we can get, we can drill down after that.

George: 4 hours 6 minutes.

Josh: Okay. Yeah, I'm 7 hours 54 minutes. Yes.

Tommy: Yeah, winner.

Josh: 3 hours 35 minutes on Instagram. There's not that much happening on Instagram. I've just got to stop that habit.

Tommy: I mean, how can you be flaunting your life at this point? Like, all comms around, here's how fucking sick my life is. Is down the drain.

Mason: Grace is up at 7 hours and 12 minutes. Harry is up at 7 hours and 19 minutes.

Josh: Nice.

Tommy: I've been beaten by both Grace and Harry. Appreciate that.

Josh: The real Gemma Watts. I want to know what hers is. Gemma Watts. Yeah. What would she have? No, the really fucked up bit is looking at today's graph. I'm already at 3 hours, 41 minutes. And if you have a look at 3:00 AM, I spent like 45 minutes on my phone because I got woken up. I got woken up by a junkie who was screaming out the front. He was like having a fight with his backpack. And—

Tommy: Was there a raccoon in it?

George: What was that?

Josh: No, no, it was just like— But I was waiting for him to like smash a window or something.

Tommy: Harry spent 4 hours and 5 minutes on TikTok.

Mason: That's outrageous.

Josh: I need to get TikTok. I reckon.

Tommy: No, no, definitely not, dude. And so what did you consume at 3 AM? Because I think that's probably quite common at the moment. You're waking up and thinking and wanting to sort of cheque your phone.

Josh: It was hard to, um, I can't actually work out how to drill down on that specific time, but from memory it was, um, It was all the news stuff. So I was looking at New York Times. Yeah. News.com.au. The one interesting thing— You go on.

Tommy: I was just going to say, any takeaways from the US?

Josh: Yeah. So I was watching all of the— Trump does this like long 2-hour livestream every morning, Melbourne time, around 9 AM. And an interesting thing about him. Did you know that he's a germaphobe?

Tommy: Trump is?

Mason: Wow.

Josh: Yeah. And so, he said that he only started shaking people's hands after he became president. Oh, sorry. After he became a politician. So, he never used to shake people's hands.

Tommy: I mean, he had the intel early days, but that's pretty crazy, isn't it?

Josh: How is this going to change? Because I've spoken at length of my, uh, weirdness around, uh, do I hug, handshake, kiss? Are we just cancelling kisses?

George: Oh yeah, for the until 2021.

Josh: Yeah, well, the problem, imagine we could knock out the whole PR industry just that, you know, double kiss. So, I know, I think it's, I think I'm happy with just a little wave and seen as, you know, helping people out.

Tommy: I'm all good with that.

George: Did you see that the UK and Germany are now, the ban is 2 people or less?

Josh: What does that mean?

George: Like you can't walk in a group of 2 on the street.

Josh: Really?

Tommy: More than 2.

George: More than 2.

Mason: Even if you're a family? What if you're a family?

George: I think you've got to be like separated 20 metres apart or something.

Tommy: Well, the UK have done their full lockdown and that you can only, you can exercise once a day outside. So going for a ride, run, whatever it is, but you can't be with anyone outside of direct family members.

Josh: Can we transfer our exercise credits? Because I'm happy to send some your way, boys, if you want an extra session during the day, I'm happy to swap you.

George: I've done a few push-ups in the office.

Josh: Have you really?

George: Yeah, I did 2 sets of 20 yesterday.

Mason: Oh, this is a tiny habit.

George: Yeah, tiny habit.

Josh: Yeah, that I just started. Some of those challenges, there are some of those challenges that have been coming online, and I feel like we're going to get more of it and it's going to get old very quickly, which is, oh, I challenge Tommy to plank for 1 minute and then go fuck himself, you know.

Tommy: Sebs, you've got a life hack for us, uh, Mr. Hemsworth.

Mason: Oh yeah, yeah, no, so Chris Hemsworth has an app called, uh, CentrFit, um, and it's, it's pretty much the same as Keep It Cleaner, um, but it's got a bunch of like bodyweight exercises, meditation, um, nutrition stuff, recipes. It's pretty good, but they got a 6-week free trial, which I signed up to.

Josh: That's good.

Tommy: I saw him talk about— I mean, that's a, that's a win. Get you through this next bit with a thirst trap.

Josh: Jordan Michaelides on YouTube Live is asking, where are all your heads on timelines for this? You think this is 2 to 3 or 6 months? What do you want to achieve during the period if it's a minimum of 2 months?

Tommy: I definitely don't think it's 2 months.

George: I think it's 6.

Tommy: Minimum, like, look at September, my birthday month. That's like start of spring, 6 months away. 6 months away.

Josh: Like, so you think they're going to try and get it ready before your birthday month? Is that what you're saying?

Tommy: Yeah, I think they'll, um, they'll know that I've got an iPhone 11 and they'll say this guy needs to celebrate his birthday. I couldn't care about celebrating anything right now. In terms of like the old way. I'm enjoying being here and I feel like I'm getting what I get out of hanging out with everyone through Zoom, through this new style. But yes, 6 months. Think about that. We're going into winter.

Josh: It's, it's, um, and shit, like just fucking real get cozy.

Mason: Definitely.

Tommy: There's a long time ahead, I think, because the— I said it to you, JJ, this morning. We won't feel— you're not seeing the impact to businesses this week, next week. You are already, and it's substantial, but you're not seeing the full impact to businesses that you will in 2 months, 2 weeks even. Like, it's going to change, man. It's, yeah, I mean, what do they say? 2 million Australians will be unemployed.

Josh: It's crazy. There's a lot going on in the comments. I think 97's smiling. Sev's rated out. What are they saying in the comments?

Mason: Gemma said, "Love getting rejected by Mr. 97," in quotation marks. "Excuse me, Grace." And then Gemma said, "I'm offended by Sev's rejecting you. I'm rooting for you.

Josh: I'm team Grace." Yeah, it was a great suggestion. Thanks, Gem. Distance makes the heart grow fonder, I guess.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: What is the— what's the challenge for you, Seb?

Tommy: What's the biggest challenge at the moment?

Josh: I don't know.

Mason: I don't know. Everything's just a bit confusing. Just with everything that's going on, it's all a bit full-on.

Josh: Are you one of those people that are using the coronavirus for shit that was already fucked? As an out, yeah. Business was already broken, mate. I forgot that you were an A-grade data before coronavirus and now it's shut you down.

Mason: It's just got—

Josh: yeah, yeah.

Mason: No, it's so annoying.

Josh: Oh yeah, Glyn says biggest challenge equals getting anyone to visit the basement for lockdown. It's a beautiful basement though. Yeah, Glenn said once they're in, they're in. You should see '97's lighting setup in the evening. It was quite gloomy.

Tommy: Was it?

Mason: Yeah, I mean, what, all the lights were off and I just had a tiny little light in the background set to red and it looked like a bit of a dungeon.

Josh: Yeah, no, it is a bit of a weird vibe.

Tommy: That's a crazy dungeon though, Seb.

Josh: George, how much are you thinking about the future?

George: Yeah, a bit. I was just, I was walking down the street the other day. I was just like trying to be more present in this crazy, crazy time. Just that it's the start of who knows what's going to happen in the next few months and just being, being aware of it. And if you're busy, being grateful that you've got stuff to do. And, um, but yeah, when we first went into— when they were going to go into lockdown, um, Dad called me and he's like, he literally said the words, you should just cheque Newstart, see what's— I was like, never thought I'd be hearing him say that. But yeah, who knows, who knows what's gonna happen.

Tommy: Yeah, it's like, it's, it's the equivalent of Dad saying it's time to get on the dole.

Josh: Yeah, exactly.

Tommy: Like, times are tough.

Josh: I feel like you're wearing the classic Newstart outfit, that perfect holiday jumper. You love TV, you love watching it, but then also you've got the collared shirt because you're ready for business. It's a new start, you know, you need to look serious for the Centrelink officer, you know. Yeah, is there a tie under there?

Tommy: You know, Looking at the line at Centrelink today, hundreds and hundreds of people. I saw a guy that I knew in the line, but I was looking at the faces of people in there and it is— they said yesterday on the news it's reminiscent of the Great Depression time, you know, and it's— they're not in the line because they're in a great situation. And when you see it, it is sad.

George: Well, the thing is The people in those lines are the ones that have actually like never been on Centrelink before.

Josh: Yeah.

George: They're all people who've been working their whole lives and now they have to sign up because everyone who's already on Centrelink will just get the money.

Tommy: I did hear today that you can't— they— you can call. They've passed some kind of power down that you can now do it all over the phone. So all those people in line didn't have to be in line.

George: Well, yeah, it was a bit of a— it's not great at the height of a pandemic to have 400 people huddling around a building. I should have thought about that.

Tommy: It's mind-blowing. It's fucking ridiculous. And a lot of them were not 1.5 metres away, like just 1, maybe.

Josh: Is he a real bitch sometimes? Just fucking hanging out at Centrelink, just making sure they're far enough apart. They don't have a job. TJ, give him a break. Take him a photo and do a bit of a public— I actually saw that on news.com.au. What? Their post, they had photos, long lens photos of people drinking beer in public, like in sort of like licenced venues and it was sort of— and people in food courts and they were sort of saying, people aren't taking this seriously. Could you imagine if you made the paper for that?

Tommy: Oh, I mean, yeah, it is for long because I saw, I saw these people, they just look like, you know, your average worker works in an agency, but, and just got done eating a banh mi roll sitting down at Westfield and you've been out of this absolute gronk, just mid-mouthful of pork, working long hours, just trying to, you know, set up everything before it's all in lockdown. And he's, but I think there's What about your ego getting in cheque here? Like, I feel, I feel like as fucked as it is, I've always thought, nah, I'm not too good for Centrelink, but I'm like, I'll fucking work it out some other way. And that mindset isn't helpful in this time where for most and for a lot, there isn't another way. And so what does it look like to have nothing and have to ask for a handout. And I think that's a challenging thing for a lot of people because there's a lot of proud individuals, and I'm probably one of them, right? It's like, I could go and work somewhere, you know, but it's not, it's not the case. And so there is a confronting of ego for a lot of people that's going to have to go down.

George: It's like people in, in hospitality mainly, I think, working at bars and stuff that will literally have no work for the next 6 months.

Tommy: I remember I told you going from working in radio to working at a cafe in Bondi, you feel this, like you understand it's like, it's all ego. It's like feeling embarrassed if you're spotted by someone, you know, like because you're so tied up in what your role means and the status it gives you and you're seeing the step down in status. That you observe it. Not saying it is that, right? But because it's all manifested, it's all made up in our heads about where we sit in this.

Josh: Because that is, you see, the most obvious it's ever been right now, where the shit— where you think it's all secure and important, where those jobs are being made redundant.

Tommy: And I said to Mace this morning, I mean, I think about the mental health of a lot of individuals that may have struggled with their mental health, but sort of had a band-aid on it, which was career and salary. And when you rip that off and you're faced with the difficulties inside of your own brain, inside of your own mind, and you're confronting that, and that collision with mental health, you know, band-aid ripped off with mental health colliding and what that looks like.

Josh: Emily Wong on YouTube Live saying, confronting the ego was made marginally easier when somebody said to me, you paid tax before this, you'll pay it after. Get what you're entitled to because it is rough.

Tommy: Is that George's dad?

Josh: Sounds like a similar sentiment. I mean, it makes sense. When you think about tax and the, you know, all the stuff that we do with the ATO, this is what this, you know, this is what it's used for.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: When I went to the post office, I got a package and it said The Bookroom Collective on it. And George's mum gave me a book. And so I'll read. I'm not very good at reading cursive. But she said, thought of this—

Tommy: Sorry, can we just get a— George, what's your mum's handwriting like? Because my dad's is absolutely shit house.

George: Yeah, mum's is hard to read.

Josh: It looks like she's a doctor. She is. Yeah. So I'll read it as best I can. Should I?

George: Yeah, go for it.

Josh: Thought of this book after last Friday's podcast. Hope things settle in with the difficulties of this and we can adjust and have a life. Kaz, there's a couple of words I couldn't read.

George: Beautiful.

Tommy: Sounds like broken English the way Josh translated it.

Josh: So, the book is Unlikely Friendships. So, this was about, remember I said about Matt D'Avella posting the monkey playing with the cat?

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And so I feel like you don't remember that.

Tommy: No, but I think I mentioned at the same time. No, I don't think you mentioned that on the podcast. I mentioned at some point on the podcast recently about—

Josh: You want the book.

Mason: Absolutely.

Tommy: I mentioned that I went like YouTube, just like obsessed with Amy and I were like unlikely pet friendships. And there's a whole, there's a whole like doco series about like a pig and a duck that are best buddies and they cuddle up together and It doesn't say Josh on it, so maybe it is for you.

Mason: I mean, the manager doesn't remember you mentioning it.

Tommy: You've got stuff—

Josh: I mentioned the Diavalla thing.

Tommy: I don't reckon you did. I don't think you did.

Josh: Oh, this is a nightmare.

Tommy: Kaz, who did you send it to?

Josh: No, no, I don't want to hear.

Mason: I don't want to hear.

George: No, no, she actually said, I've got a book for Josh, but if he's already got it, maybe Tommy will like it.

Josh: Okay, great. No, so it is. Okay, good.

Tommy: I mean, it's nice. What a compliment to say if he's already got it.

George: Yeah, yeah, I've got it.

Josh: My library collection is—

Tommy: it's Grace's mum's favourite book. How cute.

Josh: I mean, it is such a great book. No, you know what, I did— can you bring it up, Sevs, in otter, um, just, just and send it to TJ? I talked about Diavella posting on Instagram. I just want to roughly—

Mason: which episode was it?

Tommy: I don't know.

George: Friday.

Josh: Because I think it was Friday.

George: Then we started talking about if you guys were animals, what animals would you be? I think it was that episode.

Josh: And so was it me, George? Because I just feel like I'm being gaslighted about this.

Tommy: I mean, you might have. I just can't remember you mentioning Diavella, and I don't remember seeing the post.

George: So if you're just going to put it on your bookshelf, maybe give it to Tommy.

Tommy: Yeah, please. It is. I mean, I haven't read a book in years, but it's a picture book.

Josh: Like, it's got a lot of photos.

Tommy: I mean, that's where you start. That's where you start, picture books, buddy.

Josh: Okay, well, if you want it, you can have it.

Tommy: I do feel like—

George: Josh, thank you.

Tommy: For the support, Kaz. Really appreciate it.

Josh: How's your adventure time going, by the way, TJ? Any updates?

Tommy: Oh, I made the formal— I made a—

Josh: You've gone into the adventure.

Tommy: Other than personal adventures, like, I see the Bodhi and I going on a stick hunt. As something that is a little adventure for us. But I made the formal announcement that it's unprecedented times and it's—

Josh: I get it.

Tommy: It's like my dating. Shut it down. Shut it down. Shut it down.

Josh: Yeah, lockdown. Lockdown. Complete lockdown.

Tommy: I mean, Adventure Club went to see, uh, to see the, um, lionets.

Josh: What do you call it?

Tommy: Uh, that was an adventure. I did think about that, like the Adventure Club, whether there could be— involve some sort of tech. It's all trying, having, having it, having a camera, like a live. So it's just like a walk, not a walk, but like if we're going, Bodhi and I are going, how could I record? So drones, you can fly them and then stream it to a page, to a Facebook page. And I was like, what can I use?

Josh: Your iPhone 11?

Tommy: Yeah, I could use my iPhone 11. Thanks for that. And I could live stream an adventure Bodhi and I go on to the, to the Facebook group or something like that.

George: That could work.

Tommy: So it's, yeah, just a thought.

Josh: It's great. Life hack stuff. Any updates from Sebs?

Mason: I mean, the SMS thing is annoying, to be honest.

Josh: It's costing too much. Are we going to incorporate a WhatsApp?

Mason: I think, I think maybe email just to start, just to get it rolling. I found out last night that I actually can't send international SMSs.

Josh: That's annoying.

Tommy: So how about this? Ask this SMS company.

Mason: I'm actually done.

Tommy: Can you just say we're going through hard times at the moment? Can we get 3 months free?

Josh: No, no, no.

Tommy: This is the one that he's had.

Josh: No, no, definitely not.

George: Why don't we just, just use your number?

Mason: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's, that's not about that. And then I can actually message Grace.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, she'd love that. Yeah, yeah, would you love that?

Josh: You would actually love that messaging.

Tommy: Yeah, no, I'd like to message Grace, mate. You can do it. Grace isn't stopping.

Josh: What is the— yeah, what's the—

Tommy: can you shoot a line up?

Josh: What's the real challenge? No, it's— service needs to do this on his own.

Tommy: I was just saying I can shoot her a text.

Josh: No, no, no. Why do you need to send her a text? Because what's wrong, CJ?

Tommy: I can hear my son screaming upstairs and I can hear him as well. Hang on, I'll be back.

Josh: Okay, we can just end the show anyway. Okay, it's a daily talk show. If you enjoy the show, you can livestream us. We're going to be Sebs, do we have a better idea on what are people saying? When do they want us to livestream?

Mason: So, a lot of them have been between sort of like, like in the morning, 10 o'clock, and then later at night. I know Leah said 8 PM when the kids are asleep or midday while they're down for the nap.

Josh: The other thing, I think, isn't the time changing? Are we about to get out of daylight savings?

Mason: Yeah, not sure.

Josh: And so that's going to change, isn't it? Daylight savings— saving change.

Mason: Let's have a look because I mean, because I think, I think we just passed the, um, uh, I don't know, we passed one of the things where it's like the longest day or shortest day or whatever.

Josh: I don't know, April, uh, April 5th, March 8th.

Mason: Okay, I'm a bit— it's not gonna— it's okay, it's only gonna affect International people, Brisbane.

Josh: But we should probably dial in the time zone on this. Yeah. Anyway, all right, um, if you enjoyed the show, you can leave us a podcast review at Apple Podcasts. Uh, you can still become a VIP Gronk as well. Go to thedailytalkshow.com/gronks. Anything else, guys, before we go?

Mason: Yeah, just quickly, we got a review from Nicola 95, a bit late to take hashtag #grong squad, but I'm leaning in. 5 stars, boys.

Josh: Thank you. Thanks for the review. CJ, we're all done.

Tommy: All done, mate. I was just going to say anyone who's listening at the moment or on the live feed, if you're getting value out of this, maybe share it with a friend and tell them what's going down. I feel like we're really building out like a community. It's bringing us all together. Like, I even feel thinking about dodge in the office. We're all sort of all a part of this. Like, we're building the team because we're all fucked at the moment. Like, it's all hard times.

Josh: It's all gonna die.

Tommy: Not even factors in health-wise. I'm just like, I mean, we're all in big trouble.

Josh: Everything else.

Tommy: We're all in big trouble. And it actually feels better when you're with people all in trouble. Like, there is something about it. It's so basic.

Josh: If you're drowning, you try and grab the nearest person, pull them up, pull their head down. Come on, guys, I'm drowning. Quick, quick, everyone, my wife.

Tommy: Drowning together is better than drowning alone. I think you could all agree with.

Josh: It's a beautiful sentiment. It's a beautiful sense of community that, you know, going out of business is better when we're all going out of business. I never expected that the show would become a massive suicide pact.

Tommy: No, that's horrible. But in saying that, it's like what would help us is by just sharing the message about what we're doing over here at The Daily Talk Show. So yeah, it all, it all helps.

Josh: And we also— I was thinking, if you're seeing anyone— Bree mentioned this to me, she was like, ah, some businesses are doing some cool stuff, you should highlight it in some way. If you are a business owner or you're doing something cool and you want a spotlight, send us an email, hi@thedailytalkshow.com, and we can talk about it and do cool shit around it. Anyway, enjoy the rest of your day, guys, and we'll see you tomorrow.

Tommy: See you guys.