Healthy Carrot Cake

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 445.

Tommy: What's happening, guys? What's going on?

Josh: You're just having, uh, can you not do that over the microphone? I mean, being serious.

Tommy: I'm just having a pistachio.

Josh: The pistachio. Before I thought you had snot on your jumper.

Tommy: I had pistachio. I was just admiring the colour of a pistachio. It's like this magical, magical green.

Josh: It's earthy.

Tommy: Oh, it's so earthy.

Josh: Actually, talking about colours, this morning having a coffee and you said—

Tommy: Don't worry about it. What?

Josh: I said, what's your—

Tommy: Don't worry about it.

Josh: You said, what's your favourite colour?

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: You're on the phone to Amy.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: What has she got planned?

Tommy: Don't spoil things for yourself. That's all I'll say.

Josh: Guess what my favourite colour is.

Tommy: Yeah, you won't guess it. That's for sure. I was blown away. I've never seen the guy even— Orange.

Josh: No, incorrect. Karen, what do you think my favourite colour is? Oh my God, wait, hang on.

Tommy: Say that again. You fucked up, Mr. 97.

Josh: 97 was trying to hide her answer muting her microphone. What did you say?

Karen: Wait, really? It's purple?

Josh: Purple, yeah.

Tommy: That's amazing. I would never think he's a purple guy. I think green.

Josh: Purple.

Tommy: I'd almost say pistachio, to be honest.

Josh: Well, pistachio, yeah, that is purple.

Tommy: Ah, you got me.

Josh: Do you know, actually, when I was a— when I started my first proper video production business, it was called Mediaflex, and I got a voiceover done and like created a commercial where I got someone to make a motion graphic to advertise.

Tommy: What did you drop on it?

Josh: That's a really good question.

Tommy: I reckon probably $1,300.

Josh: Yeah, it must have been like a grand.

Tommy: Like expensive for the shitty ones.

Josh: Oh yeah. And so I But the whole video was like, why do they call red onions red onions when they look more purple?

Tommy: That's a good point. That's a solid point. Spanish onion, otherwise known as— that's fucking purple, bro.

Josh: Exactly. And then the other thing too was I did another bit where it was like, why do they call fun-sized chocolates fun-sized when they're small?

Tommy: Of course there was food chat.

Josh: It was like, we don't know these answers, but what we do know is Media Flakes.

Mason: We know media.

Tommy: Did you write the copy for that?

Josh: Yeah, yeah. I got a voiceover artist. I think we could find it if you wanted to post it.

Tommy: You're a quirky kid.

Josh: Yeah, I just like—

Tommy: Such a quirky kid.

Josh: Anyway, but the pistachios, I mean, it's been an absolute nightmare.

Tommy: It was— there was an absolute gronk move pulled here in the office. You heard just hysteria coming from the kitchen area.

Josh: You thought it was me? Oh, well, pistachios taste like olives.

Tommy: Uh, they don't. All right, mate, you had me at the bloody red. Why is it not— it's not actually red. You were smart there, and then you just said it tastes like an olive.

Josh: Tastes like olives.

Tommy: There's no—

Mason: I hate olives, but I eat pistachios.

Tommy: So when Mr. 97 hates olives but will eat pistachios, you know they're not— you know they're not olives. Um, so hysteria coming from the, the kitchen and some absolute gronk. And because I pulled out a whole bag of pistachios into a nice bowl when I had it there And I was just like, I'm going to eat that on the show. I came back over and I thought someone had eaten every one of these pistachios because all that was there was shells just mound over the top. And I just yelled, who has done this? And I always think you, but I never say your name.

Josh: Because why did you assume it?

Tommy: I mean, anything like this around the kitchen or a toilet, I'm usually suspicious of you. I'm wrong.

Josh: I admit it.

Tommy: I am sorry, sir.

Josh: I don't gronk around the toilet. Am I a gronk around the toilet?

Tommy: No, but I could just imagine that you'd leave the paper. You know, Karen, you know, when you might have a housemate, I'm sure you've done this. I've done this. You know, I've, I'm a sinner. You leave the roll. So the cardboard roll with no paper on it. Like, I mean, we're all admitting here that we've walked out.

Josh: She's like, she can't even understand what you're saying. You know, like the toilet paper roll.

Tommy: And we all walked out and left the empty roll. Still on the hangover.

Josh: No, no, you've never done—

Tommy: have you ever done that in your life?

Karen: I always change it.

Tommy: Yeah, okay, okay. So you, you've been taught well.

Karen: I was—

Tommy: I'm an absolute grump. But have you, Mr. 97, done it?

Mason: I've done it.

Tommy: Have you, Mr. Josh?

Josh: Mr. Josh, you're rattled. Nah, nah, you've done it. Don't ask me, you'll get a grump answer if you ask grump questions.

Tommy: So I thought, and I do always get wrong, and I will stop blaming you.

Josh: Sorry, sorry. Sorry, sorry. I know that I've had carrot cake because Karen's given it, so I'm a bit hyperactive. You said they were healthy. Why is it healthy carrot cake?

Karen: There is no sugar in the actual cake.

Tommy: There's no sugar in that cream cheese icing?

Karen: Oh, there's sugar in the icing.

Josh: Wrong move.

Mason: I appreciate it.

Josh: I was only eating the icing. You told me it was healthy. Other than the icing.

Karen: The cake was healthy, not the icing.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: I feel like the icing makes up the cake.

Josh: Do you think? That's outrageous. It's like having chocolate-coated strawberries. Just saying it's healthy because it's a strawberry. Anyway, just to close the loop on the toilet thing, I pride myself on cleaning the bowl.

Tommy: Good boy.

Josh: Good boy. I even heard you doing it.

Tommy: Do it every day.

Josh: This morning I heard a little ding ding and it was the sound of the toilet brush, which is actually not a grunt. Like when you hear that, I said to Mason, what did I even say? I can't remember.

Tommy: You said, that's the ding.

Josh: Oh, yes, it's the equivalent of our sales bell. You know, we've made a sale. Tommy's done a dump. You know, anyway. So no, I respect you. I should— we shouldn't laugh or make fun because it's good that he's doing it. He should be doing it. That's what it's there for.

Tommy: You're an absolute gronk if you don't use it. Anyway, also gronk move is eating a bowl of pistachios and putting all the shells back on top because I discovered underneath there was actually a fresh layer of pistachios still in their shells. But you had just dropped them straight on the top.

Josh: 97. Yes, that is.

Karen: Yeah.

Tommy: And I had like—

Karen: Why?

Josh: Why do you think that's okay?

Mason: I don't know. I wasn't really—

Josh: I wasn't thinking.

Tommy: Gronk move. That's actually— this is the epitome of a Gronk move.

Josh: Yeah.

Mason: Well, I feel like it's a semi-common thing to just have them in the same bowl and just—

Tommy: Is it? Where?

Mason: Don't know.

Josh: Would you do it? I mean, you wouldn't—

Mason: I feel like I've seen it somewhere.

Josh: You wouldn't do it at Lone Star, would you? What? Lone Star. Wouldn't do it there.

Mason: What's Lone Star?

Tommy: Oh, so he doesn't know. He's trying. Can you actually look this up? Banning peanuts at Lone Star or banning— So there was this restaurant, this chain where there would be peanuts everywhere. So you crack them open and people just chuck the shells onto the ground. So you'd be walking. It seems really American.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Do you remember also growing up there was— You definitely remember this.

Josh: Is it a dam?

Tommy: No, a butcher. Would use sawdust.

Josh: No, I don't really remember.

Tommy: Don't remember that?

Josh: Oh, to clean up?

Tommy: No, they'd use sawdust on the ground behind the counter. Maybe stuff dropped into it because then they just sweep it all out and then it makes sense. Anyway, the Gronk has done this and I was very furious. And I'm always surprised when it's Mr. 97 because I've got such high— well, I don't, you know, standards I hold him to.

Josh: I don't eat that many nuts. Even Bree was— I don't know if it was a compliment, but last night 97, I don't know if you were there for this, but Bree was saying, I'm not someone that— I don't eat a lot of cashews or nuts. Like, you don't? Yeah, because we were talking about we need to dial in the diet. Yeah, like it sort of hit a bit of a crisis point. And, uh, why is that funny? Is it because Karen brought a whole sugar cake to the office?

Mason: I mean, you've always had 3 cakes in 3 days.

Tommy: Oh, I know, Tommy.

Mason: Tommy, you've had 3 cakes.

Tommy: Yeah, it's my birthday one day, mate.

Josh: What's my breakfast?

Mason: Josh has had 2 cakes in 2 days.

Josh: Why haven't I had— you're just assuming I didn't have cake on the Sunday. Yeah, did you? Yes, it's Father's Day, I had scones, sort of similar. Anyway, so yeah, we're trying to be healthy, working out how we're going to do it.

Tommy: And then you're thinking nuts, but here's the problem, you eat a whole thing of—

Josh: I don't.

Tommy: No, you eat a whole thing of peanut butter. Which is just ground nuts. Either way, it's not okay. I don't think you should be like— it's a—

Josh: you shouldn't even be laughing.

Tommy: Usually there's two bowls, like if you, if you're doing a session of pistachios. I was thinking, you know what the most privileged thing is? Eating pistachios that aren't in a shell. Some asshole— that's actually not an asshole—

Mason: shelled them.

Tommy: The asshole's the person eating the pistachios.

Josh: You can get them unshelled.

Tommy: You can get them shelled. You can get them shelled. Think about how have they done that? Someone's had to go through and—

Josh: Sure, there's a machine.

Tommy: Surely there is.

Mason: Well, peanuts. Peanuts are unshelled.

Josh: Wait, shelled? I'm confused with the word unshelled.

Mason: No shell. No, so unshelled is no shell.

Tommy: It has a shell or it doesn't have a shell?

Mason: No, when it's unshelled, it's got no shell. If they were unshelled, then it'd have no shell.

Josh: No, it would be putting the shell back on.

Mason: That'd be shelling.

Tommy: Have a look if there's a technical term. So, like, what's the one for shucking?

Mason: Shelled versus unshelled.

Tommy: Shelled versus unshelled.

Josh: It's like the other thing that confused me the other day. I said, "Seeded mustard." Seeded mustard.

Tommy: Yeah, that's it.

Josh: Do you assume that there's no seeds or it's just got seeds?

Tommy: Seeded mustard, I would think, has seeds in it. Because it's seeded. It's been seeded. Seeds have been seeded.

Josh: Like, yeah. Okay. That actually makes sense.

Mason: Shell off and shell on, they call it.

Tommy: Shell off, shell on.

Mason: Yeah.

Tommy: Sounds like a young Jewish boy. Shell off, shell on.

Josh: And so, what's the deal? Shell off.

Mason: Shell off is no shell.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And then shell on is with the shell. And so, you would buy, if we were to buy these shell offed, is that what you're saying?

Mason: Shell offed. Yeah.

Karen: Yeah.

Josh: You're serious? Yeah. Okay.

Tommy: You can get them. One of the— it was this, I think I took a photo of it. It was a park bench across the road from my house and there was an empty beer can and just a sea of shells. So it was like they were split in, you know, of pistachio shells. So they'd been shelled off, eaten, and then just discarded of and on the ground. And I just thought it's a really sad sight. Like someone has just sat there drinking their beer or, or it's really cool. Yeah, but for some reason I had this moment where I was like, oh, that looks a bit sad, just an empty beer and all these shells.

Josh: I like the idea, but I don't think I'd be able to have these like on a road trip. Greg gets very funny about me eating, just dropping stuff. Going back to the Lone Star thing, did you find out why they banned?

Tommy: So there was a P.S.?

Mason: Allergies. Allergies.

Josh: Oh no, no, no, this was, there was some kind of tripping over the, uh, the shells.

Tommy: Well, I thought it was something to do with, um, the What's that? Listeria. What's the, um, like the egg one? Yeah, Listeria is in the meat or whatever, but people putting their hands just into peanut jars. Like, I'm just doing it now. I luckily wash my hands in the bathroom.

Josh: I mean, it is gross. There are like, literally I was saying to 97 when he was buying nuts for the office, my biggest concern was how are we managing this? Yeah, how we, uh, we have to get one of those shovels to get it out of the And I can't imagine you using a shovel.

Tommy: At daycare, they're very strict. All the little kids, they're like, you know, veggies and stuff. I know there's no nuts at daycare. They've literally removed all nuts at daycare.

Josh: So what are they using? The shelf?

Tommy: No, I'm just talking about having to— you're talking about touching things and things that require— like, they don't even want kids to grab.

Josh: What's that called? I've just gone blank.

Tommy: Little shovel. They don't want to have kids sticking their hands in, just grabbing because they've been touching their nose, in the nose. One of the daycare workers said to me yesterday, because Bodhi's been picking his nose viciously, and like he's got to the point where he will hide to pick his nose and eat it, because he— I'm just like, yuck, you little rat! I'm just— oh, and he knows, and I just—

Josh: why does he think it? Why does he want to eat it? You're not feeding him enough?

Tommy: Seriously, he's definitely getting enough food, but I want to know what the, what the fascination is, because young kids do it a lot. So Can you look it up? Is there some biological reason behind why we do things like pick our nose at the early beginning, right? So, it's like—

Josh: But what about like, here's a real— I'm about to reveal myself as being pretty disgusting.

Tommy: I mean, episode 14.

Josh: Should I do it or no?

Mason: Yeah, go for it.

Josh: Or like sometimes, like if I have like picked my toenail before and then Subconsciously, I don't know what's happening, but Bree says, are you smelling your fingers?

Mason: And I am.

Josh: I'm just like checking to see if it's like it smells or not.

Tommy: How do you do it? How do you do it?

Josh: Just like that. It's like almost a rub of the mustache. Do you ever do that?

Tommy: Yeah, I've done that 100%.

Josh: But do you do it? Like, is it something that— Yeah, I do it. Yeah, you do it.

Tommy: I think it I know this guy, it's so fucking disgusting, this guy that I know, and I don't know how he doesn't know, or he just doesn't give a fuck that people are there, but I've seen him put his hands down the front of his pants.

Mason: Oh no.

Tommy: And just, yeah, just, and it's like fingers, if you were to pretend to do a beak of a bird.

Mason: Oh no. I reckon, I reckon you could change that. For one of those.

Josh: Wait, so now you want me to rub the smell of my feet onto my nose? No, no, no. Do you actually do this, by the way?

Mason: No, no, you don't have to rub it though, but you could—

Tommy: Mate, this is an insight from Mr. Nice Whiff.

Mason: You could get a whiff on the way past.

Tommy: Sure.

Josh: Is that what you are like? Do you ever do that with your—

Mason: No, I just, I just do that with my nose sometimes.

Josh: I don't know why. But you're smelling your fingers?

Mason: Yeah, well, it happens at the same time because they're next to your face. Yeah, I mean, I see you do that so much.

Josh: Just— no, but sometimes I probably am itching my mustache. We can't just assume now anytime I'm doing it I'm trying to smell something.

Tommy: But we had an incident yesterday where, uh, my dad gave us some fertiliser for the plants upstairs. Karen, you've been working upstairs today, can you— have you smelt anything upstairs? Have you?

Josh: She's shaking her head.

Tommy: No, that's a no, that's a no from Karen.

Josh: Well, it smelled like shit.

Tommy: No, to be honest, yesterday afternoon I literally, because I saw you in the morning and you'd been, you'd walked in, and for some reason I just had this moment where I looked over at you and I was—

Josh: you thought it was me?

Tommy: Vince, you smelt like a 10-year-old boy.

Josh: Well, literally, we made this, uh, there's a certain smell that this smell has, which is fertilizer. It's fertilizer, which Bree and I always joke if we ever smell this We say it smells like Dale. And because there was a kid when we were, it would have been 2011. We were on a flight to Thailand and there was a little boy from Queensland. Always like, probably he reminded me of me when I was a kid, little fat kid with his mum. And we got talking and Dale had a certain smell. And forever since then, it's always known as the Dale smell. It sort of smells a little bit like a dirty bum, which is not what you want.

Tommy: My child has smelled like that. My child has pulled a Dale before, but he shits his nappy, he shits himself.

Josh: But it's just like, you know, you've been on a flight for a lot of hours, you bet you're wearing—

Mason: Disengage the core.

Tommy: And a few other things. Yeah, but you also have poor hygiene. You know when you really smell this? In occupations like PT. Oh yeah, like I'd be stretching out people and I, and I had some clients that just their hygiene wasn't first and foremost on the agenda for them and they just stunk.

Josh: It's not ideal.

Tommy: Of all different types.

Josh: And so anyway, we need to not— because we've got the problem we have at the moment is we have these plants and so we've got a studio and we have green plants to make it look real posh for when guests come in. The problem is you'll notice there's no lights in the whole space. And so, the things just die.

Tommy: Well, there's a bunch of things. It's either they were left out on the balcony and they've got cold, they've got too cold. Or the heat.

Mason: Yeah.

Tommy: Dad said that. And then the heater has also affected them. Plus, they might have got watered too much.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: They're sensitive little buggers.

Josh: It's a bit of a luxury what we've done, which we've built like a system of going and taking them upstairs to the balcony. So it gets a bit of light and then comes back down. Do you reckon people would do it like a normal business is doing that?

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, this is a studio. This is a— we've set dressed it. It's lovely, you know.

Josh: Yeah, I guess. Anyway, on Monday, was it? We talked about our perfect days.

Tommy: Oh yeah, we did. It's, um, I just, I got a text message from my wife about that. She's only just listened, came through before. And she said, I think we need to talk about your perfect day.

Josh: What did you, uh, I said, lol.

Tommy: I said, at least you were in, you were in my one.

Josh: Oh, what, so you're throwing it back at me?

Tommy: It didn't work. You did the post, so you did your full one, then I did mine, then you came back and said all of that included Bree in there too. It didn't work, mate. Don't worry. She said to say goodbye to you, uh, she said to say goodbye before you head overseas for a work trip. We'll work on it.

Josh: I mean, I, um, yesterday I made a point to try and live out my perfect day. Found a red wall, brick wall, walked along that, blue skies. It was perfect.

Tommy: I mean, pretty easy to do each day.

Josh: Then went to AU79, good coffee cafe, asked for— so I fucked up the order, didn't I?

Tommy: Well, if you asked for an iced coffee in Australia. There's a bunch of people have done a lot of work in just getting a huge glass with fucking shitloads of ice cream in it with whipped cream.

Josh: Yeah, I nearly had a full fat milk. I nearly had a coffee sundae.

Tommy: What you need to ask for is an iced latte.

Josh: That's what I said, wasn't it?

Tommy: No, you asked for an iced latte. Iced coffee. But then what you need to say is an iced latte.

Josh: I think we say latte on ice.

Tommy: Latte on ice. Yeah, you get that.

Josh: Yeah. So anyway, that was an interesting learning. But Karen, given you're on the couch, wanted to ask you, what is your perfect day?

Karen: Watching movie at home all day long.

Josh: Yeah. Okay, great.

Tommy: Nice. Movie marathon. What kind of movie?

Karen: I don't know. Just anything.

Tommy: What's your go-to? Like, I love Jason Statham. It's my dirty little secret.

Karen: Any horror stuff.

Tommy: Horror?

Karen: Really? Really?

Tommy: You like being scared?

Josh: What sort of horror stuff? Like, Have you seen, what's the big one that was all— Yeah, as a kid.

Tommy: Australian, written by an Australian guy. No, what was the one that like— Scream.

Josh: Scream.

Tommy: Scream.

Josh: Scream was one of those ones where I never saw it, but it was like ruining kids. Do you remember that? It was like a big issue.

Tommy: Yeah. Horrible. That mask.

Josh: Did you ever watch Scream? What do you watch? What sort of—

Karen: The last one I watched is It.

Tommy: It.

Mason: Oh, no.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: Yeah, that's scary as hell.

Josh: Is this the one where there's like the billboards and stuff at the moment? Is it?

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: The clown.

Mason: The second one's coming out, right?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Oh God. Um, how do you like— why do you like them? What does it do? Because sometimes I just like watching a rom-com. It might tear up a little bit. I like it, you know, just love it. I'm just happy.

Josh: It's so great.

Tommy: They're so, so happy.

Josh: Yeah. What do you like about it?

Karen: Um, just to see if I actually would be scared.

Tommy: Oh, you're a bloody daredevil, aren't you?

Josh: Jeez, I don't need that negativity. I don't like it. I'm pushing back.

Karen: I like it.

Josh: It's a body suit.

Tommy: I don't like it.

Josh: Like, Bri and I constantly, like, if we put something on, it's too sad. Like, we don't need that negativity.

Tommy: I went and I saw the Adam Goodes documentary, The Australian Dream. Fucking amazing. But you can only see it at certain cinemas, right? And so the Palace, there's one in Brighton. It's where all the old fogey go. It's like literally like retirement village.

Josh: I fucked up with that, by the way.

Tommy: What did you fuck up?

Josh: Well, I invited Pete, his girlfriend Chels. Yeah, Bri and I.

Tommy: Double date.

Josh: Yeah, it's gonna be perfect.

Tommy: Beautiful.

Josh: Sorted out the one time, like, worked out the exact time that we could go.

Tommy: Great.

Josh: And then Bri had been asking for the tickets, asking for the tickets. I'm like, the fine. No, no, we had two, but not— no after 5 PM on a Saturday.

Tommy: Oh really? I went after 5 PM on Saturday. They fucked up.

Josh: Really?

Tommy: The girl was so rattled. So these are— Kylie, Eddie, thank you very much for sending these. They're passes. They say admit to on them. We went and she was so rattled by this thing. She was like, I don't know how to do this. And then she's like, Peter. And then Peter came over, he's like, just that code. And then she's like, she almost gave it back to me.

Josh: And it was after— because I thought it was an 8 PM session on a Saturday though.

Tommy: Saturday night, 8 PM session. I went out I can't go any other time.

Josh: Because Bree and I were actually thinking, like, we actually ended up saying, hey, we'll still go and we're just going to pay. We're just going to go. But maybe we should try and use it first.

Tommy: Just go and then put it on the business if you can, because it's really embarrassing otherwise. And I don't want to embarrass or be embarrassed in front of Pete next time.

Josh: And so it was, that was slightly—

Tommy: What was I saying before, Mace? I was telling a story.

Josh: You were talking about the old fogey. I've never heard of fogeys. What are fogeys?

Tommy: Oh, old fogey. Old folk.

Josh: You look up fogey?

Tommy: Yeah, old fogey.

Josh: Probably highly offensive, you know what I mean? Back in the day.

Tommy: I mean, I haven't used it in 10, 15 years. Um, but I went and I was reminded walking into this, uh, cinema of a time that I went with an ex-girlfriend of mine. And we— it was a Sunday night, we just wanted to— we're like, oh, we should just go see a movie. You know when you just Don't know much about the film. It was, it was called Animal Kingdom. And all we knew was where my ex-girlfriend lived next door was actually a house where the family that Animal Kingdom is about once lived in. And so we're like, ah, this is interesting. You know, they're kind of a crime family in, in Melbourne, Victoria. And we went and we just walked out feeling so depressed. All I wanted was to feel good on a Sunday night to start my week, you know, finish, finish the week, start it nice on a Monday. Saw a great film.

Josh: I was like so depressed.

Tommy: Depressed.

Josh: Someone just made you at least remember the phone. Her phone.

Tommy: What do you mean?

Josh: Oh, I thought there was an ex that would always forget her phone everywhere.

Tommy: Oh no, no, no, she lost her phone, this ex-girlfriend. She did, yeah, once in a cab coming from John Safran's birthday.

Josh: Are you sure this isn't the same one?

Tommy: It's a different one. Different one.

Mason: The odds of that.

Tommy: What, did I hang out with heaps of girls that fucking lose their phones?

Josh: Yeah, yeah. I mean, in cabs.

Mason: In cabs.

Tommy: Yeah, it was a devastating time. And I was back.

Josh: Yeah, it was Diaries of a Fuckboy. Just having to find people's phones. That's what you get.

Tommy: Just on the phone hunt.

Josh: Just on the find phone.

Tommy: It was before then, before you could do any of that shit, before find Oh, my friends was about— now it's much easier. Now people don't give a shit about phones.

Josh: Like, do you think you would have been known as a fuckboy growing up?

Tommy: Nah, nah, nah. What is a fuckboy? You called me one once and I didn't know what it meant. Mr. 97, what's the definition of a fuckboy? Karen, do you know what a fuckboy is?

Karen: I think so. I don't know.

Josh: Okay, yeah, you can give us the Karen definition.

Karen: Like a player, someone who dates girls just for fun.

Tommy: It's— see, that I, I, I think Fuckboy is quite an aggressive, right? It makes it sound like this.

Josh: If you are one, yeah.

Tommy: Don't you reckon the term, I don't know if it fits. You're just a player. Like you're just someone who likes dating around.

Josh: Well, fuckboy, I reckon it's probably in response to the word slut. When you say slut, it's got the connotations that it's about women. And so this is this empowering word.

Tommy: Yeah, I don't mind slut for sure.

Josh: But I feel like most people use it in that term. And so this is one where it's like, ah, fuckboy by design.

Tommy: Fuckboy, fuckboy, yeah.

Josh: What is the actual official?

Tommy: An asshole who's strictly into sex. Okay, no.

Mason: Or sexual relationships.

Tommy: Definitely not.

Josh: No, because he helps him find the phone.

Tommy: So, so that's true.

Mason: So the fuckboys are directly someone who plays with, uh, girls' feelings and doesn't really like them.

Tommy: Nah. I mean, I dated a bunch of girls that I ended up not liking, which is why I wasn't with them, and vice versa. A bunch of girls have done the same to me, but I can't do it. I can't, I, I can't fucking be mean just for the sake— like, sex is one thing. Sex is not that great over hurting someone's— like, the shit that comes with it. So let me rephrase that. The payoff of sex is not better than— the payoff of sex is good. The feelings and all of the shit you get and the annoying emotions around fucking with somebody is too great. I would rather have no sex. Does that make sense? Yeah, I'd rather not fuck with them just to get the sex, you know what I mean?

Josh: Yeah, no, I get it.

Tommy: So I'm the opposite of a fuckboy, to be honest.

Josh: Yeah, you're just the Find My Friends guy, just a guy helping a bunch of girls find the phone. That's really beautiful.

Tommy: It's a real love story, to be honest.

Josh: Um, I loved it. It's a daily talk show. Uh, hi, The Daily Talk Show. I feel like you've got vibes Because you're a good-looking dude. You've said it before.

Tommy: Yeah, but I'm just saying, yeah, but I'm not a fuckboy.

Josh: Yeah, I know, but that's why I think people get confused because I remember being conscious of not getting— sorry for kids in the car.

Tommy: If you're in the car with the kids, turn it off for sure, or you've just learned what a fuckboy is. I've been conscious of not getting that player status, that fucking you sleep around.

Josh: Yeah. How do you not get that status?

Tommy: Don't fucking do it.

Josh: Okay, sure.

Tommy: Because you can see how you can start to build a rep if you've been with 3 girls.

Josh: Have you got mates that are?

Tommy: Definitely, definitely. And I see that they, they probably— I didn't know that that's the thing, but I know that other people not say that about them, and they've said that to me about them. And what am I going to say? Yeah, he does sleep with them. Yeah, I slept with a lot of girls. It happens when, if you've been with a bunch of people within us friendship circle.

Josh: Is it bad to have sex with heaps of people?

Tommy: Depends on what—

Josh: if you're single and you're going out, 97, what do you think?

Tommy: I think that thing, that whole description of fuckboy is negative because it's implying that you're hurting people's feelings and you're actually not listening. So you're just doing it for the sex and you're actually disregarding people's feelings. That's fucking shit.

Josh: Because you can have sex, like sex, you can have like loving sex with heaps of people.

Tommy: Yeah, but can you? This is the thing. I don't know when people say, I'm not, I don't get attached. Yeah. Do you?

Josh: But you could be attached to heaps of people, couldn't you?

Tommy: Maybe. Maybe. And I don't know what works for other, you know, some people can live in a relationship and then have multiple partners and then be okay with it. And what's it called?

Josh: Polygamy, is it?

Tommy: No.

Josh: Polyamory.

Tommy: Polyamory. Yeah, that's it.

Josh: What's polygamy? I fucked that.

Tommy: Polygamy is actually the opposite.

Josh: Just being with one person. Polygamous.

Karen: Yeah.

Tommy: Isn't that being with one person for the rest of your life?

Josh: Monogamous?

Mason: Monogamy?

Tommy: That's monogamous.

Josh: Geez, we're fucking dumb. Monogamy?

Mason: Polygamy is the practise or custom of having more than one wife or husband at the same time.

Tommy: You're right.

Josh: But polyamory is— He's trying to spell it. He is.

Tommy: That's a little laugh saying, I know.

Josh: It's pretty bad when you spell it so wrong. Google one, I think, correct it, which is exactly what happened.

Mason: No, I was just reading through the description to make sure I got it. The desire for intimate relationships with more than one partner.

Tommy: Okay.

Mason: With the consent of all partners involved.

Tommy: So, it's actually having multiple girlfriend, boyfriend, multiple partners. So, you actually are living— So, it'd be like—

Josh: And so, what's the difference with polygamy then? Polygamy is like, isn't that common in certain cultures where they have like a bunch of wives?

Tommy: No?

Josh: Well, you should get an expert on. Yeah, what would the expert be?

Tommy: Well, someone who's done their work. Yes, uh, I'm sure they're probably well-versed in it. Dr. Nikki Goldstein, she's a sexologist, I know her. She'd probably— you're right, sorry, she'd have more information in her brain than us.

Josh: Yeah, I believe it. Anyway, on that note, it's The Daily Talk Show. hi@thedailytalkshow.com is the email address. If you've got any thoughts on what we've spoken about, any corrections for us, it's easier if you just do it. Just go on Instagram, do a screengrab of the show, write a little note, tag us up. We'll regram it so everyone can see. Otherwise, we'll see. Actually, before we go, Hayden Dibb. Oh yes. What's the latest? So if you weren't aware, Gronkh Hayden He has— I just had a mouth stroke again. Uh, what does he agree to do?

Mason: He's getting, he's getting our old logo tattooed on his inner bicep. Is that what was happening?

Tommy: That's what he said, around the inner bicep, which we— you even said that's going to hurt, and then I realised that that's a really sore spot. Yeah, but he's a tough guy.

Josh: Yeah, so is he—

Tommy: is he—

Josh: is that happening?

Mason: It's happening Friday.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, okay, go ahead. Do you know the place?

Mason: Yeah, Lygon Street Tattoo.

Tommy: Perfect, mate. I'm happy.

Josh: Have you called them yet?

Mason: No, I haven't called. Okay, I mean, so we should probably—

Tommy: we'll book it in, and if not there, we'll find somewhere out in the burbs. It's happening Friday, you know, there's actually—

Mason: it might be at Lygon Street Tattoo.

Tommy: There's some epic tattoo parlours out in the suburb, like, usually could be open up our options.

Josh: When he said, when he said Lygon Tattoo, I was like, oh my God, he's booked it in. No, no, no, no. Okay, well, we better go so we sort that out, but Uh, that's very exciting too. If you've got any thoughts on that, uh, let us know at thedailytalkshow.com. Any tips for Hayden, uh, we will— I'm looking forward to seeing when it's got like the Glad wrap on it and it's all like blistering and shit. Oh yes, it'd be great. Otherwise, we'll see you tomorrow, guys.

Tommy: See you guys.