Being Humbled

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 856.

Tommy: What is happening? What's going on, Gronks? How are we, Josh Ganson? For real, for real, how are we? For real, for real.

Josh: Look, I'm actually— I'm good today. Uh, Fat Friday. So I'm also good because, um, it was my birthday on Monday. Yeah, got messages, heartwarming messages. Not as many heartwarming messages, uh, compared to, uh, the messages I received after the storey that I told yesterday. People in solidarity telling me their shit stories, and I mean, all around, what's making me feel good?

Tommy: What's more relatable, shitting yourself or birthdays? I don't know, it turns out—

Josh: yeah, it depends how many times you do it a year, isn't it?

Tommy: Oh God, it's at least once a year. At least once a year. I mean, it is great. Like, do you want me to just sort of reel off, um, remaining nameless, some of these people I don't think would want us to sort of name names.

Josh: You're continuing the stigma.

Tommy: This is great.

Josh: Instagram usernames.

Tommy: We don't want to be, you know, toxic. It's toxic masculinity to mask who's shat themselves. But this one came through. This one came through. I'm not going to say the name. I felt for Josh so much in this moment. Literally, literally had this happen to me last Saturday while walking through a park. Thank God I wasn't walking with a friend. 'Fuck my life, so embarrassing, love you, JJ.' If that is not connection at a human level, I don't know what is. We've had some up— we've confirmation on the, uh, the method of shitting yourself, which was take too much magnesium.

Josh: Yeah, a dietitian who works at a hospital confirmed that magnesium can be a laxative.

Tommy: Yep. And also another friend of the show, yes, my mum used to take magnesium every day and would have liquid shits every day. We thought she had something super bad wrong, you know, wrong with it. Um, but, uh, stop magnesium and it was okay.

Josh: What do you think? Like, are you surprised with me? Because I'm learning a lot of the DMs.

Tommy: What I learned is too is, uh, 3 is not better than 2, just that's a good safe rule to go on from now. Yes, 'cause you took 3 instead of 2. I think magnesium is the go-to for when your body's sore, when you're probably not stretching and doing a bunch of other things, like ingesting something, there's probably a bunch you could do without taking something, or, and yeah, so there's that.

Josh: Well, Jess Lucas suggested the spray, I've got the spray, She's been saying, you know, spray your feet, spray behind your knees, and that helps you go to nine eyes. And so I think that maybe that would do it without irritating the bowel, as they say.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, it's anything you ingest, you're just getting that funky feeling in your guts.

Josh: You don't have to talk about it anymore. I'll tell you what I've got for Fat Fridays. Do you wanna go first? What have you got for Fat Fridays?

Tommy: Yeah, so I've got a, this is a fancy tradie special, like you'd, definitely see blokes building houses in Toorak eating this. A bacon and egg roll in a brioche bun and a Portuguese tart.

Josh: You've been smashing the Portuguese tarts. This is like your shawarma fucking month all over again. There is nothing. It's just like, ah, should we go get another shawarma? You've had 3 today. It's like, ah yeah, nah, nah, you're right, you're right. You've been eating Portuguese tarts like it's a fucking—

Tommy: like you've been eating magnesium tablets.

Josh: Yeah, you can— you are— you will shit yourself if you eat too many. What is a Portuguese tart, mate?

Tommy: It is the cutest little thing. Okay, it's, um, yeah, but it's not like crazy doughnut sweet. It's like a custard tart sweet, but I don't know if it's— it's got cinnamon, uh, notes through it. It's got like a sort of glazed top, but the pastry is, you know, is where it sort of, it dies. If it's bad pastry, you know, throw it in the bin. But this one is from a nice bakery and it's, um, yeah, it's made by Portuguese. The Portuguese made it famous, I think. I wonder if they're just called tarts in, in, um, Portugal.

Josh: You would think, wouldn't you?

Tommy: Well, you hope so. I mean, I hope so.

Josh: Well, you don't care. You're having a stance for entertainment. You don't care.

Tommy: To be honest, don't care. Don't care.

Josh: I just bloody hope they do.

Tommy: If they change their name to Tart, I'd keep eating them.

Josh: Exactly. So I was, I actually went for a walk this morning. You told me I should. And so I listened to you and we got a coffee. And then I was, I said to Bree, I just need to go and get a toasted sandwich. And she said, oh, you know, we've still got the frittata in the fridge. And I was like, it was pretty cheesy. It's like, it could be a Fat Friday thing. And I said, what about if I put more cheese on the top just so I don't get called out for not having something indulgent for Fat Fridays? And so that's, that's what I did. It's got like feta and stuff inside, but then I just got a vintage cheese and just melted it on top.

Tommy: Oh, look at that.

Josh: And so it is, it was delicious beforehand. Um, it's really like, you know, it's real Dense, like, because of the, like, look, like the, from the, the cheese and stuff. Can we— there we go.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of density to that frittata. Yeah, has it got like, um, pumpkin or sweet potato or something in there? What has it got in there?

Josh: I should know. Um, it's got some greens, spinach and stuff. Yeah, thanks, man.

Tommy: Okay.

Josh: Um, yeah, it's, it's good.

Tommy: Just have a taste. I mean, one, one thing you're probably not that great at is I think it's because you don't cook as much, so you don't know the food, like what's inside of things, but I've asked you a few times like, what's it tasting like? And you've struggled to articulate what it is.

Josh: It's— I mean, just like slam things down. I'm not properly considering, you know, like, you know what I mean?

Tommy: One of the fastest burger eaters that's not in a burger eating competition.

Josh: It's true. No, it has been a criticism when I was a kid. Just slow down. Up, Breezy, and tell me what's in it. Tomato, spinach, and feta. And why is that? Because she made it. I don't know why that means. It sounds like Bree is worried that the consensus would be that we bought it, and she wanted to make it look like we made it.

Tommy: To be honest, there wouldn't be anything in your house that healthy if you'd bought it. I think that's— if you know you're eating healthy, it's because you guys have cooked it.

Josh: Yeah, yeah. And so this is— yeah, we cooked all this, and all Bree did. And it's great, you know, you cook it in a, what's it called? Like a baking dish. You put it in the oven and then you put it in the fridge and then you can just slice it up and have it in the mornings. Got the tip from Pete Shepherd. He does a big massive egg thing and cuts it up and has it as a slice in the morning.

Tommy: It is lean. And so, but you have sort of introduced more fat to it for Fat Fridays because of the cheese. Appreciate that.

Josh: What's been happening? How's the new home?

Tommy: Oh, it's great. It's getting there. We've, um, Bodhi's gone for the day, which is, um, means that we can, uh, you know, get some sort of solid work in.

Josh: Plus, is he with your parents?

Tommy: Yeah, with mum and dad. No, he's at the bakery where I got the Portuguese tart, so yeah, got a playpen. No, no, we've, um, it's, it's coming together nicely. There's, uh, finally getting some stuff away. It's one of those sort of hectic moves where you are slowly putting stuff away. I don't know if there's a move where, unless you're rich and you're paying someone to totally unload the whole thing and pack it away, but then, then you don't know where anything is because you haven't packed it away.

Josh: Because you're moving so close to where you were living beforehand, any, any hacks for things that you didn't have to dismantle or, um, oh, you know, I'd just be tempted to fucking carry things and they're full form just, well, down the road rather than having to fucking deal with dismantling stuff.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, you push that to the limit, but then there's—

Josh: Do you take stuff out of the drawers? Oh, you had a dresser, would you just leave?

Tommy: No, here we go, here we go. I removed the drawers with the things in them, put them into my car, and took them to the house. And then the removalists just did the big frame of the, you know, the cabinet or whatever. And then I just slid the drawers back in. And so that was very handy when you have to start sort of taking shit out of drawers, putting them into boxes, and then making sure they don't break. Nah, sure, nah, um, it was very handy. But I was on, um, I was reading an article this morning of a hacker who— I, I think you'll love this, it will be a great read for you. Um, when you browse Instagram and find former Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott's passport number, and that's the name of the article. This guy is a hacker and he had people reach out to him, say, mate, can you hack this? And so, you know, the— I mean, it's not happening now and I probably don't think it will happen. Maybe there'll be a big spike of it, but people posting photos of their passports. I'm sure if we went back, it's probably in your archive— archives now.

Josh: It's definitely all over, like the boarding passes were a big one. Yeah, you know, your tickets going to a concert, you would post that. Even people just being like, oh, you know, following barefoot, got my splurge card. Yeah, it's a nice little photo of your debit card.

Tommy: Well, Tony Abbott, I mean, this is— I like to just think about, I mean, we're nowhere near the size of somewhere like America, but you look at— this is Bill Clinton. So, Bill Clinton's taken a photo of his passport— oh, sorry, of his boarding pass and ticket. And then Instagrammed it. This is what the previous prime minister of this country has done. And then some hacker has gone, ah, easy. And he's gone through the process of finding Tony Abbott's date of birth, phone number, logging into his Qantas frequent flyer portal. And then before— like, he, he didn't really want to do anything Didn't want to do anything malicious with this. He— one of, one of, one of the, um, things on his post says, do not get arrested challenge 2020. He said in this act, uh, he basically worked out— figure out whether I have done a crime, notify someone, maybe Tony Abbott, get permission to publish this blog post, and then tell Qantas about the security issues that they can fix. So he's almost like a white hat hacker. At this point. But it took, uh, almost 6 months for him to get permission to post this. But what he did was he downloaded the image and then inspected the image, and then in that, in that image, he found all this information about Tony Abbott, like full name, like, uh, his, um, date of birth. And so he's just used all of these to then engineer and get into his, like, Qantas frequent flyer portal. Like, there's— so people don't post their— I can't— this is where I don't understand. We've had this conversation about, um, your number plates. I saw this person, this influencer, one photo. So they did a carousel, one photo, uh, number plate like blanked out, swipe photo to the left, you can see the number plate. I was like, at what point? Like, why are you doing that? For one, is someone—

Josh: what do you mean?

Tommy: Someone— but can someone— you swipe left and you, you know, a carousel of photos, you swipe left and you can see another photo.

Josh: So they blurred out one but not the other?

Tommy: Yeah, they blurred out one and then you swipe and then you see another photo of the car.

Josh: Oh, there's definitely like a, um, yeah, I love when you see something that's blurred I love to try and figure it out. Like, I saw one, uh, big influencer from the UK, and she, uh, had reshared a friend's Insta story.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And in the Insta story, it's a throwback on her Facebook, and, uh, the influencer had whited out her, um, her Facebook name because obviously she uses a different name than what she uses as an influencer.

Tommy: Ah, yeah, yeah.

Josh: And I couldn't help myself, I just went to the friend's Insta story, clicked through and saw it because it wasn't censored on the friend's account, it was just censored on the influencer's account. Yeah.

Tommy: Well, yeah, I mean, it's like when people— I mean, I think a real problem one is the taking a photo of you in front of your sold board, you know, like you've just bought a house, for one. 1, don't be a wanker. I mean, you're just flexing at that point that you've got some debt. 2, it's very clear where you live because you just look at the real estate agency. Like usually they white out the, you know, address or the area.

Josh: But then you just find it. You could literally just write the copy from the board into realestate.com.au or whatever. Yeah. I'm sure you'd find it.

Tommy: And so the people that are doing this, I mean, you're just collectively seeing other people do stuff and you're then thinking, I'll do that. Yeah, but at the point of trying to be cyber safe, you just wouldn't post.

Josh: So what did you do?

Tommy: So with the, the licence example, I guess there's, um, you know, if I didn't like somebody, if I didn't like somebody and I knew their licence plate, you could be an absolute flog and dob them in for littering.

Josh: Sure.

Tommy: Or you could say, like, if you— oh, here we go. Uh, you know, me mate Terry, who I went to heighten— he's not my mate, I hate Terry— but Terry got a bloody Nissan Skyline GTR R32, kept it old school, roll cage inside, you know, huge amounts of boost going to that engine from the turbines, and it sounds too loud. And I, and I don't like Terry, so I'm going to call the EPA or something.

Josh: There's like an Environmental Protection Authority.

Tommy: Yep, yep. And I'm gonna dob in Terry and say that I saw him tearing past me and it injured my ears. And then he will get an email— so he'll get a letter in the mail that says, hey Terry, you need to go take your car to be tested to see if it's the right decibels for people's earballs. That happened to me. Here's this.

Josh: So I, um, BMW when you were—

Tommy: No, no, no, no, no. It'll make more sense when you know the car. My VL Commodore, my first car, 1987, burgundy color, original interior, one of the cleanest interiors you'd see, one of the worst exteriors you'd see. It was, you know, it was a trade-off, colour for low Ks and great interior. So I bought this thing from Berwick and it was a, yeah, 5-speed manual. Very happy with it. Dropped $4K on it, uh, first car.

Josh: And 5-speed manual, are there a lot of 4-speed manuals?

Tommy: There's not. It's for anything. It's a flex to say that it's a 6-speed.

Josh: Okay, so 5, but I was just, I was just saying 5-speed manual.

Tommy: Oh, let's say manual. It was a manual. Anyway, I got an exhaust put onto it. Of course, fully sick. I got an exhaust and it was loud, it was loud. But you know, I trusted the guys that put it on, pay, you know, paid, paid on card, it wasn't a cash job.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And you know, I proceeded to be a young guy driving a VL Commodore around, and at one point I had a full car load and I was in—

Josh: now that status, you know, like, yeah, yeah.

Tommy: I'm playing status games, mate.

Josh: Why else are you doing that? I'm here.

Tommy: And I had a car full of people and we were tearing around. I don't think I was being that naughty. I don't think I was. And I just— this guy looked at us and did this arm action. I was like, what's he talking about? And maybe because I just donked it and it sounded loud at the point, but sure enough, 2 weeks later I got an, uh, someone ratted me in. Someone had taken my number plate and ratted me in. And you, you have to go and get the test. It's like, you know, it's obviously the law that once you get this letter, you gotta go get it sorted. And so it cost me $300, I think, where they do something where they reduce the sound of the exhaust.

Josh: I've actually heard storeys like this with— you were mentioning the EPA— a friend who there was a road rage incident with someone else and they just, the person said, hey, they threw a ciggie out the car. Don't even smoke. And had to go and do like, had to fight the fine.

Tommy: Yeah, exactly. And so, if you throw ciggies out the window or you litter, you're a gronk. And if you get caught or someone gets you a fine, you should be paying it, mate. Don't— no one else is going to clean up your shit. Do it yourself. But if you do it without, you know, it actually happening, like, that's, I think, more— what's more gronky, a litterer or a liar? Both bad.

Josh: A liar, I think.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because then it's like, where do you take it, right?

Josh: I mean, yeah, yeah, because you could lie about littering. That's where I went with it.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

Josh: I mean, the social engineering stuff is fun. I've spoken about it on the show. There was a show back in the day called The Broken, it was a web show, and, uh, Kevin Rose, who founded Digg.com, would do all of these different social, uh, engineering sort of experiments. And one of them being how you get a free pizza, which I've spoken a lot about. But there's a great— if you're interested in all of this stuff, Uh, there's a guy named Kevin Mitnick. He was the first guy to ever be put in jail for hacking, and now he's a white hat hacker, so he hacks for, hacks for good. And, um, yeah, he's got a book called The Art of Deception where so much of this hacking is not just about, like, to your point, it's not, you know, hacking into systems just like brute force. It is, yes. Getting this bit of information, that bit of information. Imagine, I was thinking, uh, one of, uh, one of my mates had a video of them leaving in a car yesterday, right? They were in a car and it was like a, uh, like a private, like an Uber basically.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And it had the number plate on there. And I was thinking what you could do, you could contact the— for one, you could try and find out stuff on your own in regards to the number plate.. But then, like what happened with Georgie Boy, he had an incident where he left his MacBook Pro in an Uber. He contacted the cops and that was super helpful. And so, and then also contacted another company and they were super helpful. So, you could contact, you could find the name of the company that the limo is from, say, hey, I'm this person, uh, I, uh, ordered this car. I don't actually have their details, but I left something in there. Could you contact them, get the details, and then on the back end reverse engineer some sort of, uh, I don't know what you could do actually at that point, to be honest.

Tommy: Just to say, get a few details for your diary there.

Josh: No, yeah.

Tommy: Well, half of it's like, yeah, so this half of the social engineering stuff. So there's, there was, um, I was listening to a podcast where they were talking about, um, someone who was working at a, like, a store on a beachfront, and there was these groups of people that would do this tactic where they would come up. And so there'd be young people behind the counter. I was one of them. I was a young, young 14-year-old working at a netball center. Behind the counter using an old cash register that didn't really work. And, um, so I had to sort of, you know, trying to do math.

Josh: Netball Centre, to be honest.

Tommy: Yeah, my uncle owned it, so, you know, it was a sympathy job. Sympathy job. I definitely ate more, um, killer pythons and sausage rolls than what I actually got paid. Folded a lot of bibs though. Netball bibs, smelly bibs. Yeah, I had to fold them. Anyway, that's sort of humbling at that point when you're, you know, working folding smelly bibs.

Josh: Humbling's an interesting— can I just say the humble on the humbling thing? So many people misuse this. Like they say, oh, you know, I got all this great feedback, it was really humbling. It's not really humbling, is it?

Tommy: Of course not.

Josh: That's when you get like, like, I don't know if it's a US thing, but I just see like, I was humbled by How much people loved me. What?

Tommy: Oh yeah, at that point.

Josh: Anyway, go on. So, the bibs.

Tommy: Past tense, humbled. Past participle, humbled. Cause someone to feel less important or proud. So, technically right.

Josh: Less important or proud?

Tommy: Well, because you can be humbled based— Am I wrong? Yeah, I think you are. You can be humbled because for one, I had a false sense of who I was, probably, which I always have.

Josh: So you used it right. So you used it right.

Tommy: I did.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but I think like the people who— it's like, I'm getting all this pot— like, the— I had so many people, uh, engaging with my thing. Like, I was really humbled by the whole thing. Is that—

Tommy: well, no, because if they felt wrong—

Josh: I'm bored right now.

Tommy: Well, they felt less important than what people identified them to be. And so if you were to get— so if you were to be a creator who's humbled by the attention to a video, you obviously thought you weren't good enough to, um, experience or receive all of that love because you're like, that's the right creator.

Josh: I don't know if it's a right use.

Tommy: Anyway, um, that's what it says, uh, sporting opponent previously thought to be superior. So that is it.

Josh: I was humbled by the fact that, uh, only 1,000 people watched my video that I thought was going to go viral. If you had a million people view your video, you're not really humbled by that.

Tommy: It's, it's just, um, you may as well just say I was fucking embarrassed. That's more suiting. But I, uh, I'm an egomaniac and I thought it was—

Josh: No, but so that works. So the embarrassed bit, like, so that context Works. What doesn't work is when people are humbled when they're, you know, getting heaps of praise or something was successful. I was humbled by the response.

Tommy: Yeah, definitely.

Josh: I'm not sure on it.

Tommy: No, it's a good point.

Josh: Email us, hi@thedailytalkshow.com. I've been thinking about it a lot because we, we're using humbled as a, as a term a lot lately.

Tommy: And so anyway, at the, um, yeah, I'm at the Nepal Center and I was using the cash register, usually using like a calculator to get the numbers right, right? And so there is some scumbags in this earth that go up to counters and will hand over a $20 note, buy something. So they have to, they actually buy something from the 2-buck water. But the way they sort of articulate, they force back more money than what they have handed over. No, no, no, I gave you a 50. So what I need back is a 20 plus if you could give me 2 10s. Just a 5, and then all I need is 3, $3. But if you could give me 2 50-cent coins and, you know, and then the others in just 2 $1. By that point, the young, you know, kid is like, oh, oh no, but you didn't give me a 50. And like, you're starting to panic. And so I've experienced this. I've handed over more money without someone even doing that to me. Yeah, literally handing over more money. But then when you get to a I always loved it because I always knew I couldn't work it out. It always rattled me at the point where someone was like, oh, can you give me back a note? Where they've, you know, like they've given me more money than it was. So they've given me like a $20 and a $2 coin and a 50 cent, and they're like, can you give me back this? And I'm like, ah. And so I worked out that you just put in the amount that they gave you on this cash register and put in the thing that they— and you press it and it tells you So I outsourced it to the cash register. But if you, but if you don't have a cash register that can do that, I see how I would be the guy handing over more money because I'd be freaking and I'd be like, I'm, I'm, I don't know math, so clearly this person's more smart than me, you know.

Josh: I get that. Was that your first ever job?

Tommy: Oh no, no, no, I had a paper round. I had a paper round.

Josh: Time in the morning which you have to get up?

Tommy: Oh, 5, 5 15 AM, and I was fucking grade 6 or something. Jimmy, Conspiracy Jimmy, my best mate, had that too. And so it was like a real thing down in Garden Vale.

Josh: And, um, you're doing what you got paid because you're not meant to have a job until you're 14, 9 months. So is it one of these things where your dad knows?

Tommy: Nah, nah, it was just everyone, everyone knew the local newspaper joint —And it was a news agency. And then out the back there was an alleyway that you'd go in. The smell, I remember the smell. It was an oily old machine that would wrap the papers in the plastic. And I remember packing it. And I just remember this one time I was on a paper round by myself and you've got the sort of— Oh yeah, you take your bike and they would kit it out with the thing that would hold the cage on the back. Oh, that's good. That's right.

Josh: I feel like 2020. I even feel like 5 years or 10 years ago when I was even still— like 10 years ago when I was still in the suburbs, you would see like it's a car sit show. Yeah, yeah. And the kids just throwing it out the side or whatever is that.

Tommy: So, so what I think that you may have been seeing was a Saturday morning round, okay, because the Saturday morning round is big. And so you can do the, the midweek round on your bike. Saturdays had to get mum., and we'd take the car and we'd fill up the back of the car. You'd fill up the whole entire boot with papers. But this one time, and this is— I was humbled. I was so humbled this one morning, I was crying. I got this huge— well, it's just two sort of two compartments at the back of my bike full of papers, and I was early on my run and the bike tipped over and I wasn't strong enough to get it back up., and then I was— and then it fell over and the papers didn't come out, but they're all there. And I was really struggling to pull the bike back up to its standing position.

Josh: How many papers do you reckon there were?

Tommy: Uh, 40-something, I reckon. Maybe 40 to 50, 25 each side. Like a lot, man. There's a lot. And I just remember it was cold, dark, and I was young and I was starting to weep. And I was— and but I got the bike back up.

Josh: Did you have a bike light?

Tommy: Yeah, I had like a little— remember all that stuff was shit back in the day. Now you can get bike light or you get lights for your skateboard and all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a really crappy one.

Josh: This is a fire, yeah, holding it up. Is it right?

Tommy: And but, but God, it's good to think back like I did it. I got the bike back up right and I finished off the round and In the letterbox, or was it a throw situation?

Josh: I couldn't imagine you were trusted with throwing. Surely you broke a few windows or ruined a few things.

Tommy: I think I did hit a light once and I fucking got out of there. They know who it is, it's the fucking paperboy. Yeah, anyway, it's good. Um, it's humbling. It feels good to say it's humbling when you don't even know what it means or if it's the right context, you know.

Josh: Yeah, did you wear— did you ever, um Work at a fast food joint?

Tommy: Nah, no, no. So that was it, paper round. Um, and then I worked at a— at the netball centre for quite some time. And then I nearly got a job— well, I'd landed it at the fruit shop, but then I ended up getting an apprenticeship. And then I moved into personal training and then moved into radio, and now I'm here.

Josh: So I actually haven't had that progression of a podcaster. Exactly, exactly.

Tommy: It's— I, um, I don't feel like that's a heap of jobs, but I mean, the thing is, like, I feel like it's enough.

Josh: Yeah, most people will have a new job every sort of 12 to 24 months.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. Well, I kind of found— by the time I'd found personal training, I did that for 7 years, and so And then it was like media. So I've had various jobs in the media. I mean, if you're looking at a per-job level at a video production point, I've had hundreds, hundreds of different jobs.

Josh: Anyway, all right, I'm gonna go finish this frittata. I decided not to keep eating it.

Tommy: I just had one bite of my Portuguese tart. It tastes like a cinnamon donut. Yum, in tart form. I've worked—

Josh: that's it. But it's got custard in it.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, but it's all the flavor— flavours of a cinnamon donut. Like this, I mean cinnamon, but then it just has— I don't know, just remind me of a cinnamon donut.

Josh: Okay, all right. Uh, it's a daily talk show. Hi@thedailytalkshow.com is the email address. Uh, share on Instagram, please do it. Just, just, uh, take a screen grab and say that you're listening or whatever. Maybe you've, uh got a theory on Portuguese tarts, on being humbled. Or maybe, uh, maybe you could even share a photo of you doing a paper round, if you've ever done a paper round from when you were a kid. That would be fun.

Tommy: Or if you eat magnesium, just take a photo of the bottle and, um, and then just write, if you know, you know. I do like that.

Josh: Uh, or the other thing is I'm taking, uh, I'm wanting to get into some fish supplements. I'm just wanting to get a little bit less, um, inflamed. I'm feeling like that's, that's my big, you know, it's not all about weight loss and stuff like that. I'm trying to be a little bit more sensible and I just want to feel better. And I know, uh, Sev is all on the— he's fucking smashing the fish oil and things like that. So if you have any recommendations of, uh, vitamins, I'm just gonna fucking start with a few, you know. Do you have any vitamins, TJ?

Tommy: Are you doing any? Vitamin C, what do you call it? That, that, that Armour Force.

Josh: Yeah, but Armour Force is more when you're sick. Yeah. Vitamin D, I feel like maybe I could get around given the circumstances with ISO. And it can't be too expensive because remember they said, I asked the doctor, can you test me for vitamin D? And they said, it's actually cheaper just to buy vitamin D than it is to get the test.

Tommy: Assume you're deficient.

Josh: And yeah, not even like, I think it's just, uh, it doesn't hurt. You'll just piss it out if you've got enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My mum's worried. I was worried in iron, by the way. You're low in iron? Yeah, what did I say? Yeah, I'm worried. Yeah, yeah, you had low in iron. Maybe, yeah, that's why I'm misspeaking, because I was, I was lower, lower in iron as a kid. So, ah, yeah, good, good story, isn't it? Okay, uh, all right, enjoy the rest of your day and, uh, we'll see you for Weekend Banter tomorrow. Have a good one, guys.

Tommy: See you guys.