Ryan Shelton - 24 Hour Live Stream

Ryan: The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 720. This one is with Ryan Shelton, recorded during our 24-hour livestream, and I'm super excited to release this one. You know, Ryan, for me, has been the biggest inspiration, and I can say that he was the reason why I wanted to even get into any of this stuff and learn about comedy and editing and, Sketches and all that sort of thing. Yeah, I've been watching his stuff since I was 12, when he was on Real Stories and Rove, and following what he's done since. And now he's putting out a new piece of work every 11th of the month on his new website, ryan.com. And that's so incredibly unique and creative. I haven't seen anything like it before. I could watch his stuff all day. So, it was awesome for me to finally get to meet him and have a bit of a chat at the end. But before that, it's a really great conversation right when we needed it at about 6 PM. He just perked us right back up and we were good to go for the rest of the night. So, I hope you enjoy this one. This is a personal highlight for me. This is with Ryan Shelton.

Ryan: Bonjour!

Tommy: Ryan Shelton, you've got a skivvy on.

Ryan: Well, it's 6 o'clock, skivvy and scotch. Isn't everyone doing that, mate? You're on the wrong call. Oh my God, I do that every, every Friday. 6 o'clock, skivvy and scotch.

Tommy: What sort of—

Mason: how are you drinking, Ryan? What kind of scotch are you drinking?

Ryan: It's a, it's a Glenlivet. In a blue box. So that's the extent of my knowledge of the brand, of what it actually is. But it's very good, very affordable, relatively speaking. And it's just, you know, like when the tap's not working, it's just good to drink something.

Tommy: How do you— Guys, you're going?

Ryan: Sorry, I'm going to ask you the question everyone's probably been asking you. How's the day gone?

Tommy: Oh yeah, it's good. TJ, you go first.

Mason: Yeah, we're, um, we're probably 11 hours in now, Ryan.

Josh: Yeah.

Mason: And, uh, I haven't really eaten much. It's at that point where we, um, we just came off the back of probably 7 hours of guest after guest after guest. And, uh, and I feel— I'm feeling pretty relaxed. I don't have my scotch and my skivvy, but I am feeling kind of relaxed right now.

Ryan: That's weird. Um, yeah, is it, is it kind of the, is it the equivalent? Are you guys kind of in the equivalent of like it's the hump day section of the broadcast? Yeah, it's like the equivalent.

Tommy: Well, I think that what you're seeing is like a real, like we've, we've gotten a bit loose or comfortable with just getting a bit slower, like the transition between you being in the green room and then coming on, you can see that like there's not— like if you were watching, if you're in a green room and you're watching the show that was unfolding in front of you, you probably would feel a little bit nervous coming out because it's sort of nothing's really happening.

Ryan: No, but it's kind of voyeuristic in that way. Like it's— I feel like what— like the off-air is on-air. But the off-air is the on-air. That is what it is. It's great.

Tommy: It's really cool. Is that a gas fire? Like, how does that fire work?

George: That is a great fire.

Ryan: It's just— actually, it never looks that good. I can't believe that it's come up like that. Like, the last couple of weeks we've had so much trouble getting it going. And for whatever reason right now, it looks fake, but it's completely real. It's just a combustion heater.

Tommy: Oh, look, it looks so good. Wait, so with the combustion, like, do you need to— like, how do you get the wood? Are you cutting up wood?

Ryan: No, well, not me personally, but I'm— so I'm out of town at the moment. I'm in the country, and one of my neighbors, Don Fairbrother, shout out, he's about 70. He went out and he chopped the wood with a chainsaw, and I kind of hurried and grabbed all the wood and put it in both of our cars for, for us. So he chopped it technically, but I, I'm a wood gatherer.

Tommy: Yeah, I appreciate it.

Mason: Would you feel— do you— are you close enough with Ron to invite him over for skivvies and scotches?

Ryan: Uh, yeah, I think so. I mean, his hearing's going a little bit, so, um, so I don't know if it's gonna be that good, but he's a lovely man. Lovely man.

Tommy: What have you been doing in ISO? And how is the— Breeza, what's going on, Breeza?

Ryan: Hi, Brett.

Tommy: Ryan says hi.

Ryan: Hi.

Tommy: I think it's just food organized.

Ryan: We're on air.

Tommy: Yeah, I know, this is the outrageousness. Like, you can't get mad because you don't want to be the boyfriend to blow up at his girlfriend on a live stream. It's not like that happened with Bublé. Bublé got in trouble, didn't he?

Ryan: Yeah, that was a bit dark.

Josh: But the—

Tommy: He's sung his way out of it. In iso, Ryan, what have you been up to?

Ryan: I've actually been kind of busy writing. I've been doing a lot of— I've been kind of using it as an opportunity to do some things. And I've actually just— There's this new show which is starting in a couple of weeks, which I'm going to be on. And so I've got a job. Crazily in this time. So it's just this new show on ABC called At Home Alone Together and Ray fucking Martin is hosting. So, ever heard of him? So yeah, so we're doing— I've been writing for that and editing that and I've been kind of weirdly busy. So it's been good. It's been good. Yeah. How about you guys? What have you guys been doing other than this show every day?

Tommy: Literally just the show. But I wanted to say Max Price, we had him earlier on and we asked who his favourite actor or comedian was that he's worked with recently, and he said Ryan Shelton, as in you.

Mason: Was he—

Tommy: it was the highlight.

Ryan: Darling, I love that, man.

Tommy: He didn't even know that you were coming on the show, like, so that's a genuine, genuine shout out.

Ryan: Oh, that's so cool. I love it.

Tommy: It's nice, isn't it?

Ryan: I went and did— so he obviously works on, on Kinney's show, and I went and did like a day on, on that and it was the best. Like, their show is so much fun because it's just, it's kind of, it's that good level of crew size where it's big enough to do lots of stuff and move really fast, but not so big that it's a COVID-19 problem. Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah, they just managed to finish. Did he talk about that actually?

Tommy: Did he talk about it? Yeah, he talked about it a bit.

Ryan: Yeah, filming, that was kind of a weird thing because you were saying like updates from him and Troy's Instagram and everything was locked down. And I was like, how are they— what are they like? How have they got like snuck through?

Tommy: Like, they—

Ryan: what did he say?

Tommy: Well, so they like, they basically went as far as they could, but then they ended up having to shut the thing down. Um, yeah, so there was a bit of stuff.

Mason: They did 11 days of 14 or something like that, and so they're still going to make it happen.

Ryan: Yeah, okay, that's pretty good.

Tommy: Now, um, our producer Charles is, is asking— so this is a little bit unprofessional and I hope you don't mind, but with the, um, the merch, you are a big supporter and you bought some merch. You put a PO box as the address, but we, uh, we took your billing address because our, uh, Ramble, who was riding around the bike, was doing deliveries and we, we were trying to be tightasses, but you can't sort of just give to Australia Post. Has Ramble sent you— oh, fuck, you're at the— you're at the—

Ryan: yeah, yeah, I'm away.

Tommy: Yeah, so there's a t-shirt somewhere.

George: It's in the letterbox.

Tommy: It's— yeah, it's in the letterbox.

Ryan: Oh, that's okay. Oh yeah, that's fine.

Tommy: Yeah, okay, perfect.

Ryan: Yeah, that's fine. And there's a bunch of thieves in the building, but I can't imagine they'll be operating. Look, are thieves social distancing? I guess they probably would be.

Tommy: Definitely not.

Mason: No, here, I mean, it is one, one of the points. There was some advice from some medical person saying stock up on your drugs, which seems counter, but if you think about it, there's no— like, think about getting shipments in from overseas. Drug dealers are going, you know, everyone's going out of business, including them.

Ryan: Yeah, it's drug dealers.

Mason: I mean, surely drug dealers in terms of, uh, you know, the supply chain, Ryan, as you know, um, it's been affected.

Tommy: And so, um, what's— so it's the first— it's the first today, uh, the 11th is when you release a new Ryan, uh, video. Can you give us—

Mason: why are you up to— how many Ys are we down?

Ryan: I'm up to 4. Y4. Yeah, so, uh, yeah, this year I've, I've I've started working on that and, um, yeah, it's, it's strange at the moment because the first two, obviously, I mean, even though I— the first two I made were videos done on a very small scale, like it was just me and a guy called Tim who I work with, and then another guy called Michael. It was literally three of us that made it. So technically we could, but because I'm not in town and everything's a bit strange, um, making things at the moment in the same way that you guys are having to adapt. Everyone's kind of having to figure out, uh, how do I do what I do and not make it all about the pandemic, um, but still, you know, I guess, remain or stay true to what you want to do and not let it affect you too much. Because I, I think with your, your show is probably different because it's, it's more like a radio situation, and when it is a radio situation, but with the website, with Ryan.com, people, like a podcast, people will discover it at different times, I imagine. Like, there'll be people who will probably stumble across it in like a year or two years, and I'm kind of wary about— I mean, on one hand, you could look at it as a time capsule, but on the other hand, you can look at it as just like content. And the time capsule aspect of it is kind interesting because when I started doing this, I was kind of interested— I was interested in looking at it as a sort of diary of sorts, or in the same way that like a musician will write an album about where they're at in their life in that point in time. It was kind of interesting to think about it as like, well, maybe I'll just write about and make things that are kind of about the things that are happening to me at the moment or what I'm thinking. And that was certainly the first two. But now as I'm sort of 3 down and moving into the kind of guts of it a bit more, especially in the first 2 videos that I made, I felt like I really came out swinging with the things that I really wanted to say, like the things that were on my mind, have been on my mind a lot. So now it's sort of, I'm sort of more into the area of like, well, now what do I just want to do? Like, I don't, I'm not as— those sort of things that I wanted to say aren't as prevalent. They aren't as top of mind because I've put it out there. And so now it's more about just like, what fun things can I do? Like, what could, you know, in this, in a situation where you can do anything and there's kind of no real restrictions, it sort of can be kind of overwhelming creatively, I guess, because where anything's possible. Like, I, I'm someone who really loves parameters, which is kind of why I sort of set myself this goal of doing one thing every month. So there's a time parameter, and of course there's a budgetary parameter as well, but, but creatively you can kind of do anything, and it's not even restricted to just video. Like, the last one I did was just purely audio, and so it, it, it's kind of exciting but also overwhelming to kind of approach each one. Like, this next one I'm doing is completely different again. I mean, I think it'll be— it's video, but it'll be just completely different than the other things and just not connected at all. But it's just the most— it's some of the most fun I've ever had doing anything. It's complete freedom like you guys have, and it's liberating. It's so exciting.

Tommy: Do you think that the— yeah.

Mason: Sorry, man, I haven't talked for 10 minutes. I fell asleep. Not because of you, Ryan. I'm just fading, fading hard. I need some sort of sugar.

Ryan: Um, do you want me to repeat one?

Mason: Absolutely not, absolutely not. It's— we, we do the one for one, but it's completely gone out the window. And, um, and so, yeah, it's, you know, it's, it's getting—

Tommy: I think your delay's gotten a bit full-on. I think that's part of it. So I just said there's something happening.

Mason: Sense of humor. We talked about in the recent weeks, Seb's having zero sense of humor. Um, I mean, you're a comedian that is stimulating people's sense of humor. What is your— I mean, it's a weird one to even identify. How do you do— what do you view as your own sense of humor, and how do you explain that?

Ryan: Um, that's a good question.

Tommy: It's good.

Ryan: Yeah, I think it's changed a lot actually. In, you know, if I kind of like, and I've been reflecting on it quite a lot actually recently. And I think more and more I'm more interested in sort of finally being, without wanting to sound kind of too sincere about it, but kind of being truthful, I think, more than anything. When I certainly like in years gone by with other things that I've done and shows that I've developed and things that I've made, it's always been, it's always been like, well, just what's funny, you know, just trying to make it funny, silly. And I was always really kind of like allergic to the idea of revealing myself at all. Like, I just never wanted to tell anyone about who, you know, what I was thinking or anything. And I think mostly because I didn't really know and I couldn't really articulate articulate it. And in the last couple of years, as I've done sort of more reflection and more just sort of thinking about what I'm doing and where I'm going, I guess it's become easy to articulate. And I guess once, once you kind of understand yourself more, then it becomes a bit more— well, at least for me, it's become more interesting and exciting to be able to express it. So for sense of humor, I'm I'm looking at just like the truth of like what I'm actually feeling and realising more and more just we're all so similar. We're all the same. We're all having similar struggles to a certain extent. And I think, and I'm certainly not the first person to do this, but it's very new for me. So I'm really enjoying it.

Tommy: Have you learned anything about yourself? In ISO? Like any, any big surprises?

Ryan: Um, not really. I mean, it's, it's, it's confirmed my love for pasta. Um, but other than that, uh, no, no huge revelations really. How about you guys? Have you guys had any kind of big sort of—

Mason: I think it's around the people. Like, I mean, that's one thing that we all have have had to cut. It's, it's people. And so the family thing, I mean, as much as we've all coped, I feel like it's so— I've loved— I saw my parents last weekend and it was really lovely, like, to see the joy in them, which is something— it's one of those moments where you'd probably take it for granted when you're just around people all the time. And so just mum and dad, the relationship they have with my son Bodhi Um, and yeah, I mean, it goes from that to then beers, beers with a mate is, uh, yeah, you kind of miss that too.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: What about you, 97? 97, what have you been suspiciously quiet?

George: Um, yeah, I mean, it's, it's probably interesting because it's, it's that social need that I, I've discovered I can sort of fulfil it through being pretty much digital only, like being able to FaceTime. Like, I think—

Tommy: so you're not going to see anyone anymore? Is that the—

Mason: you've got to meet Grace Mason. The relationship can't continue.

George: He's got a girlfriend since being in, uh, yeah, that's, that's a, that's a great discovery as well. Um, but yeah, I mean, I think just I mean, I've never been one to FaceTime heaps and really get into all the messaging. And so I think I've sort of done a lot of that recently, and I think that's been something that I've lent into and sort of enjoyed over the past fair few weeks.

Josh: So yeah, that's great.

Ryan: Yeah, I've sort of realised that I realised that pretty early actually when, when people stopped seeing each other and we were relying so much on video chat and video chat kind of had this rebirth. And before that, for me at least, FaceTime or Skype was only kind of reserved for special occasions. Like it was like if you go on a holiday, then you'll like FaceTime your family or your friends or partner or whatever. Or if it's like a work meeting that you're not at, it's like, well, I'll FaceTime in. But then really quickly it became just like FaceTiming like you would call someone. And it, and it's— I feel like we were finally in that future that all of the films predicted. I don't know if it'll stick around, but it's like that idea of like, well, a call is a video call. It became more and more, I think.

Tommy: So have you been doing much collaboration, like, so like doing creative calls or having sort of work meetings within sort of that video conferencing context? And is it different than sort of being in the room?

Ryan: Haven't done a lot of it. The only— I mean, in the same way that conference calls are shit, it's just like a delay. Any sort of delay just kills. It's just, it's so frustrating because you'll be on this roll and then people would jump in and then you spend 20 seconds going, no, no, you go. No, that's all right. No, no, sorry. Oh, you're going to say something?

Mason: Sorry.

Ryan: And it's just really hard to get that roll on. So I don't know, video calls of any more than 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 people, I just—

Tommy: TJ, TJ, I was just going to say, what do you think about 97 tapping out with George so George can jump into 97 spot? Because Ryan, George, our editor, is one of your biggest fans. And he also is, it turns out he's a big fan of Keep It Cleaner as well. He seems to be a big fan of everyone, but he does know a lot of Ryan Shelton trivia. So, Sebs, do you want to sort of end that?

Josh: Sure.

George: Do I need to send him my key or is he good?

Tommy: No, I can switch him in. He's just going to have to join in.

Ryan: Okay, this would be great.

Josh: I'll leave it now.

Mason: Okay, um, right, just on what you're saying, it's like it almost— we need rules in these about who's speaking, but then that is not how you normal have human interaction, right? So it's like we don't go to the pub and then enforce rules about when Ryan's talking and then I'm talking. It's a bizarre thing, but then you find it works. You find it works.

Ryan: Well, it formalises what should just be a fun environment. Like, it kind of— it's, it's, yeah, it's just, it's really hard. I mean, like, the, the delay thing— I, I'm shocked whenever I'm on a conference call on like proper conference call software and there's a delay. Like, and not even video, just like audio. It's like, how are there still delays? It's ridiculous.

Tommy: Yeah, it's definitely a— it's a, it's a bit of a buzzkill. But, um, yeah, yeah, okay, it is a nightmare. But you know what, we've got, uh, Georgie boy. George, are you in? Are you in the— can you hear us?

Josh: I think so.

Tommy: Oh yeah, great. Hey, just, just have a chat with Ryan Shelton.

Ryan: Oh, don't make it awkward.

Josh: How's it going?

Tommy: No, no, no, I won't.

Josh: I love the turtle.

Ryan: It's a skippy, but yeah, thanks. Uh, yeah, no, I, um I was actually wearing it today because it's quite cold today and where I'm working is like a shed and it's freezing. And so yeah, I realised that I was going to do 6 o'clock with you guys and then I realized, holy shit, Skivy starts with S. What else starts with S? Scotch. And anyway, I pitched this crazy idea to Josh. Skivy and Scotch at 6 o'clock. And here we are.

Tommy: I'm just going to eat my burrito. I hope you guys don't mind while George sort of gets that right now. It's from Happy Mexican on Hoddle Street. Great establishment.

Mason: Go slow, Josh. Go slow. Don't need— don't eat too fast.

Tommy: Okay, great.

Ryan: You know what? In one shot!

Mason: Yeah, I could.

Ryan: But I won't go. I'd love to see it in one.

Tommy: Do you want me to do it in one?

Mason: No, no, no, no, come on down.

Tommy: We'll do it in one. Nah nah nah. I'll vomit.

Josh: It's a nightmare. I am. And, uh, yeah, I've—

Ryan: are you editing all the videos?

Josh: Well, I've been editing like my own sort of videos for the boys, um, but the episodes and stuff, they don't get edited obviously. But I edit like the promos, and I've been doing a little hump day replay every Wednesday where I like recap the week. And yeah, I feel like it's been heavily inspired by you. You've been probably my biggest inspiration since I was—

Ryan: for the Hump Day Replay?

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: No, no, just— oh really?

Ryan: In what, in what, in what sense?

Josh: Well, I've been watching you since Rove days and, um, and like the Greystone 2800 and stuff like that.

Ryan: Whoa. What's that?

Josh: What's that? That's one of our favorite.

Mason: That's Greystone 2800.

Ryan: Greystone 2800, well George could probably, he probably has a better memory of it than I do. But yeah, I mean Greystone 2800 was years ago. So me and Hamish and Andy and Tim Bartley, we are Radio Karate, that's our company. And but when we're at the very first job we had on TV, like paid job was at Channel 7, and we did this work on the show which ended up being called Hamish and Andy. I'm sure Andy or Hamish have spoken about it at some point on, on this podcast. Anyway, that lasted like 5 minutes and then that got axed, and then we got a, like a pilot deal, I think, at Channel 7. And so we created this pilot, and that was a Tonight Show style late show inspired kind of sketch slash live thing, which, you know, had some, had some okay bits and whatever. We were very young. But one of the things we did in that was this sort of mockumentary thing, like this short mockumentary, which was essentially a mock documentary about a couple who purchase a display home. And the display home continues to operate as a display home while they live there. And so it was me and Hamish and Andy on the show, but then also Celia Pakwola was on the show as well. So her and I were the married couple who owned this house and had to deal with people coming through. But that was the, when that pilot didn't happen, we entered that, the Greystone 2800 into the Melbourne Comedy Festival. Short film competition and it won. And then part of the prize was you could— it got screened on the Comedy Channel on Foxtel. And then from that, either Rove or someone at Rove saw it, and then we met with Roving, and then we ended up making a show called Real Stories, which was based off— sort of like triggered from that thing.

Mason: So you would have said that I was going through your head Sorry, what's going through your head at those, at those times? So fresh in your career, what are you thinking when you're meeting with Rove and Roving Entertainment? What's the vibe there?

Ryan: Ah, well, terror and, um, just ecstasy. Like, it was just so— because we were huge fans of Rove's show. We, you know, I mean, Hamish and I, we went to high school together. And we loved Rove's show. We did Year 12 in '99, and that was Rove's first year when he was on Channel 9. So he did one year of Rove on Channel 9, which was just brilliant. And then they went to Channel 10. But that year, Hamish and I did Year 12, and we were at Schoolies Week in Noosa. And one night we were at, it was like a Tuesday night or whenever Rove was on. And we were at this place called the Rolling Rock, which is this delightful nightclub in Noosa. And we realised it was 9:30 and Rove was about to start. And so we like left the nightclub on Schoolies Week and raced and ran home to watch Rove. So then cut to like, you know, 5 years later or whatever it was, and we're having this meeting with Rove, was just like, we couldn't Well, speaking for myself, I couldn't, I couldn't believe it. It was incredible. Yeah, incredible.

Mason: Yeah, like, I just, I just stopped— sorry, I just stopped my timer. That was about 4 minutes to eat a whole burrito, Josh.

Tommy: Yeah, thank you. Well done. I just, I didn't want to, I didn't want to miss this gold. It was great. George, keep going. Just, you can go. How long have you got, by the way, Ryan? Can you do till 7? Have you got another—

Ryan: I can go till 7. I'm actually at 7 o'clock, I'm watching Helen Babu's live Zoom show.

Tommy: Okay, great.

Ryan: Oh great. No, yeah, it's, um, Anne Edmonds does a character called Helen Badu and it is so funny. And she'll— this character is so funny. She's doing, uh, two live Zoom shows tonight and tomorrow night, and so I'm watching that. I've got tickets.

Josh: Yeah, um, yeah, real— no, that's okay. I'm just so glad I could finally meet you because Real Stories was the reason why I wanted to even get into this film, like, industry, TV, anything. Like, hands down the biggest inspiration for me. I loved that show so much. And then the other one was We Can Be Heroes, which I know that you wrote on. Um, yeah. Amazing. But what I loved about your stuff in Rove days was like the editing being the joke. And you know, the making, that's what made me want to start getting into editing and stuff just because you know, you can add so many jokes into the video in the edit, which I loved.

Ryan: Yeah, I was talking to someone about this exact thing like just the other day. Because, uh, when we were— when I was doing that segment on Rove, uh, the very first segment I did was one of the ideas that was left over, or that we did on that pilot on Channel 7 that never went anywhere. So I redid that idea, and after that I was kind of like, I didn't really know what I was going to do. I had no— I had no kind of theme, or I had no kind of like linking idea of what what the week-to-week idea was gonna be. And so I did my first one. I think my first, I think it was like Rideas. Oh, Rideas, that's what it was. So Rideas was like my, the title of my segment. And I did it and I remember we filmed it, Tim and I, we filmed the first one. And I remember, and I'm sure everyone who's made anything will know this feeling, you get into the edit and you watch the first cut and you realise that what you've made is complete shit. And you're like, oh no, it's like, this is bad. This is really not funny. Like there's so many dead spots. It's slow. There's like 30 seconds with no joke, or, you know, which is a long time in those short little segments. And I remember having that sinking feeling, which I now realise is quite normal. But at the time, I panicked because in 4 days' time this was going to go on my favourite show. Yeah, I was panicking. And so I remember so, so specifically thinking, well, what if we instead of just cut there, what if we do a slide transition and I just do a voiceover saying slide transition, just like a little fun, just to feel like a moment. And, and we did that. And yeah, and at the time I was heavily influenced. I'm pretty sure Tim and Eric had started by this stage because I was so influenced by Tim and Eric. And I think that I was sort of trying to emulate the way that they would kind of play with the medium and the way that— I mean, a lot of the stuff that I like in my life is stuff that plays with form or convention, convention or whatever. And I remember thinking, oh, that's a good way to kind of like make boring bits funny. And then that all of a sudden became what I was writing. So I said, then it just became like, well, how many edit jokes can I write? And it became like this thing where that was the joke then. And, but it came from necessity or panic really. But it became like this really fun thing to do and then shoot and then the edit became the most fun part.

Josh: Yeah, I mean, when you're putting stuff out every week for Rove and now every 11th for yourself, like, how do you— because I've been doing that with the boys for the last few weeks, and every time I'm about to put something out, I hate it. And the first thing I want to do is tell people I'm not happy with it. How do you not do that?

Ryan: I, I'm exactly the same. Every— for all of these ones, I'm Well, for the first 2 videos that I made for the 11th, I was terrified and I was convinced it was shit. I was convinced, well, not necessarily shit. I was convinced that it was like, oh, people are gonna think that I'm taking myself too seriously or people are gonna, like just concentrating on what the what-ifs of, you know, what you worry about how people will react. But I get that every single time I make something. You get so close to it that you can't really see what you saw in it at the start. Like the thing that you loved when you had the idea and what made you want to actually make it. By the time you get to the end of it, you sort of forget that bit and you're just sort of concentrating on those little tiny details that most people will never notice. And you've forgotten the actual core of the idea that made you want to do it in the first place.

Josh: Yeah. I think like when you go—

Tommy: Yeah, George?

Josh: Oh, sorry. Like, your moment, the committing in public to put something out on a certain day and then having to do it, I think is good. Like, that's sort of what I've been doing with this Wednesday thing. But, um, you know, that's sort of inspired by your 11-day, like, um, you know, you're telling everyone that you've got to put something out and then you have to.

Ryan: Yeah, it's— I mean, I think that's just The reason I did that was because I respond just to deadlines and expectation. Like if there's no one expecting it, I'm not going to do it. And I can sort of excuse myself from not doing it. And then I just make less. So it was more just out of going, I know I'm happier when I make things. So how can I get myself to make things? And it was to, and the idea I had was to kind of set this expectation in public. So I'd be publicly humiliated if I didn't do it. Do it.

Tommy: Yeah. Uh, Ryan, what do you look at most fondly? Like, when you look back at any— at all your projects, are there any ones that were maybe even painful or whatever when you did it, but you actually look back at it now and like, oh, that's actually really good?

Ryan: Um, oh, luckily nothing's been really painful. Um, I mean, the thing that I— the things that I look at most fondly, I guess because I've had different roles on different things. Sometimes I'm a producer and sometimes I'm just a performer, and you get different things out of both, and I love both. But I always keep coming back to Cliff. Like, Cliff was a series I did on Instagram, which is 15— they're 15-second episodes, and I played this character, and that was something that was— we— I did that in a year where we were— we weren't making anything at Radio Karate, and I just— and Instagram was still relatively, uh, or video on Instagram was still relatively new. And, and I remember thinking, how can I, how can I make the most of it, or what can I do differently on it? And ended up just coming up with this idea, and I had this time to do it. And that was an— that was a situation where it was just me and Tim again, and usually one or two other people helping, and whichever actors came and did it with me. But it was complete freedom again. Like just the feeling of publishing something directly to the people who are gonna watch it and literally hitting the button, like literally hitting the post button was just, I remember feeling, thinking that that was incredible. And I still love it.

Mason: Did you still have, Ry, did you still have that— you know, the feeling that George is saying, that weekly, like, as much as it did— it is something you look fondly upon, did it still have that level of oof within it?

Ryan: For Cliff? Uh, not as— I mean, a little, definitely the first one, definitely when I did it first. Uh, there was definitely— by the time I kind of got to the point where I was posting and I kind of So once I came out of this thing and I looked at what I'd made and I was like, what the fuck are you doing? It's like playing this character in this bob wig in pajamas. I was like, what are you doing? You were on television, mate.

Josh: I love that.

Ryan: And so I had that definitely.

Josh: Sorry, George. Sorry. No, no, go on.

Ryan: No, I definitely had that feeling of like, of worry. But because it was Instagram and because I knew that comparatively to the other things that people were looking at on Instagram, it would at least have higher production value. I think I was leaning on that, or my ego was resting on that a little bit.

Josh: Yeah, it was so good. Like, it used the platform so well. And there was another one that was, um, is one of the first like Instagram series I saw was, um, with Kyle Mooney and it was D&K Podcast.

George: Oh yeah.

Josh: If you guys have heard of this.

Ryan: That is the greatest thing. Yeah.

Josh: Yeah. I loved that. Rewatched it again the other day.

Ryan: You would have seen that Kyle Mooney, George, he did that recent, that Instagram Stories influencers thing. Did you see that he did?

Josh: Yes. Yes. And he spaces it out so much. It's like, you know, he'll do one and then a week later follow up on it., and it's like, yeah, it's a long-form joke that is done over Instagram, and it's, it's so nice, but it's just brilliant.

Ryan: I don't know if it's— I'm assuming it's still on YouTube, but the, the Vox Pops that he used to do before he got on Saturday Night Live, um, he— so Kyle Mooney's on SNL, and but before he was on SNL, he did these hilarious Vox Pops where he would go to baseball games and stuff and he would talk to, you know, interview people, but not really— like sometimes he wouldn't make any sense.

Tommy: Yeah.

Ryan: Anyway, it's kind of stupid to try and explain it, but unbelievable. Yeah.

Josh: And he was using like one of those like shotgun mics with a huge XLR cord and just like dripping gold. Yeah.

Ryan: And yeah, you're trying to get the sense, I reckon, like with Karl Mooney, I like— when he got on SNL, I was always interested to see how he would go because he's clearly I don't think he would necessarily respect the comedy that SNL has done in the last, like, 10 years. Like, I think that his comedy is so alternative that what SNL do, I reckon, to him, like, maybe he would have grown up liking it, but I reckon in more recent years he would look at it and think, that's a bit— it's probably not his thing. So then to get on it himself, I reckon now he's doing these things on Instagram as a way to kind of cleanse his soul a little bit because he feels like he's doing something that isn't his actual favourite thing.

Josh: He gets slammed on SNL from people, like, it's pretty rough. Fans just, you know, yeah, think he's shit, but he's like, you haven't seen his old stuff, guys, he's so good.

Ryan: Yeah, but also I think the people who are SNL, like, diehards, um, have a different sense of humour to Kyle, I reckon. Different. So yeah, you probably can't. It's probably not fair.

Tommy: There's a lot of love, um, uh, Ryan Shelton in the comments, in the chat for you. And Max Price has just jumped in, said the man himself, Ryan Shelton. And there's, um, yeah, there's a bunch of, uh, comments. Casey was saying, um, perfectionism can be so frustrating. Do you think, Ryan, have you been told that you overthink things? Is that sort of a thing that you do?

Ryan: I have definitely gone through times where I've overthought stuff, but I remember reading something, and I'm sure you would have read this, Josh. I feel like any sort of creative inspiration thing I've read, I feel like, Josh, you probably read it before me.

Tommy: Do you like myself?

Ryan: Yeah, I know. Yeah, but, uh, but the— there was something about where it's like the best thing to do is to just start, you know, because like you can so easily get stuck in that mode of just like thinking and thinking and thinking. And by the time— if you think too much, you can easily talk yourself out of it. Whereas if you just actually do it, you can prove to yourself whether you're right or wrong. And if it's shit, then you can just move on. But if it's, if it's good, then you've actually done it. And that was and that, that was, that, that's what's kind of great about things like Instagram. And, um, yeah, and, and even like what I'm doing with the, with the 11th, the time parameter means that you kind of have no choice but to just start because there's a time pressure, like there's a deadline coming. So if I was to take all the ideas I do this year on the 11th, and if there was no time restraint,, I'd maybe get one or two of them done because I'd spend so long thinking about it.

Josh: Yeah.

Mason: What's— what is Brian, um, what is the catalyst? But like, for kicking off something, I mean, you know, stranger to doing creative projects, but for something like your new one, what is the catalyst of— and what we— previous to that, like, what's the lead into actually going, okay, I'm gonna make a commitment now? I'm going to put my foot down and start working.

Ryan: Yeah. It's purely that I recognise that I'm at my happiest when I'm making things that I believe in. When I'm making things that I believe in and putting it out there and I can see that people are like enjoying it and people are getting some level of joy from it. And that again comes back to Cliff. Like, the experience of making something really fast, being able to write a whole season of something in 2 days, film it in 1 day, edit it in like a week, and then have it play out in another week, and to be able to see the instant response from people was just, just one of the best feelings I've ever had. Like, as far as a rewarding feeling, far better than Rove even. Even though Rove, being on Rove had like this higher profile. I don't know, it just, it didn't, I feel like I didn't have that same level of the response. You don't see people in their homes. This is back in the days when people made television. You couldn't see people in their homes actually commenting or laughing. Or the best, which is like when people tag their friends and want to tell someone else they enjoyed it so much, they want to tell someone else and they want to share it with them. And then the other part of it, Tommy, is that I'm lucky that I have a lot of ideas and the most exciting part of the process is having the idea and fleshing out the idea. Sometimes it's like after that point, then you have to make it and then it just becomes annoying because it's like, oh shit, okay, well now I have to execute this exciting thing that I spent. I had so much fun thinking about it and writing out the document or whatever, but now I have to go and shoot it and it's raining and then it's annoying. So the every month thing, it sort of meant that I could I could get through more ideas quicker. Like even like the third thing I did 3 weeks ago is a thing called Nowshower, which is an audio sort of music comedy thing. And even that, like that's an idea I had about a year ago. And when I decided to do it as one of these things, I was so excited because I was like, oh, I can just do 3 episodes and then that's it. I don't have to sustain this idea to the point, like, because writing sketch comedy is fun at first and then it kind of gets laborious because it's like, you know, you've only really got like a handful of ideas that you keep then rewriting with different characters and different scenarios. So to be able to just, speaking for myself at least, so to be able to just like make 3 of these episodes and really love them and love the process of making it and the person I made it with. And then to go like, okay, that's done, now I can start a new idea. Like, that's just my dream scenario. I just, I just love it.

Tommy: In the comments on YouTube, Whitey saying, Ryan, have you considered taking your Melbourne International Comedy Festival show and putting it onto another medium, or are you saving it for next year That's Dave's Shed Show.

Ryan: Oh yeah, well, yeah, so Dave's Shed Show that I do with— that I did last year at the festival with Steve Curry and Dave Lawson, obviously, and Mark Wilson from Jet. We were going to do it this year, and obviously the festival got cancelled.

George: We did—

Ryan: well, we are still trying to get it— get some sort of TV network interested in it, like we did pitch it. And there was initial interest and there is still a bid, but I don't, I don't know if it's gonna happen. Who knows if it's gonna happen. But it was, it would have been interesting to see if that happened because obviously doing something live in front of an audience and doing it on TV is completely different. Um, and the live experience of at least making that show was just the best. It was just a dream. I loved it.

Josh: Can I just say, that was the funniest live show I've ever seen. I'm not even joking. I can't wait to see it again this year. Yeah, it was my favourite thing. Like, it was so good. I was trying to explain what the show was when people said, what should we see at the comedy festival? I said, you have to see Dave Shed Show. And then it's like, oh, what's that? Oh, it's new. It's like a chat show, but sort of and then Ryan's like a stage, and I just couldn't, I just couldn't explain it.

Ryan: Yeah. Oh, thanks, George. Yeah, no, we loved making that, and we, we will do it again. Like, the show that we wrote for this year, we— it's not topical, so we can just do it hopefully next year, assuming they have a festival next year. So yeah, it's, it's— we'll be back doing it again next year. But yeah, it was a real shame. I mean, for so many people, that was just a shame that that festival got Obviously not to talk about Corona, everyone knows it's shit.

Tommy: Yeah, breaking news from, uh, is that exclusive? The guy, I can run the exclusive banner, are you cool with that? Just want to get permission. Yep. Yeah, okay, great. All right, perfect.

Josh: There we go.

Ryan: Oh, there's actually one.

Tommy: Anything else?

Ryan: Yeah, no, that's all I've got. That's the best news I've got. Actually, the other exclusive is that I unfortunately do have to go.

Tommy: Oh, that's, that's fair. I mean, it's sort of, I don't know if the banner was relevant for that, but, uh, thank you.

Ryan: I genuinely could sit here. I could sit here. I could come back later tonight if you need someone.

Tommy: Yeah, because I'm, we're going to be doing it until 7 AM, so I know.

Ryan: Well, you guys going to drink or anything? Yeah, have you got any of those edibles from LA left?

Tommy: What are you going to do? Could you imagine trying to take that? Like, I wonder how easy it is to take on the plane. Anyway, uh, yeah, yeah, that's drug smuggling, uh, exclusive drug smuggling with Ryan Shelton.

Ryan: Ask me anything.

Mason: Love you, Ryan, mate. We appreciate you so much.

Tommy: Thank you so much.

Josh: Sorry if I was fanboying a bit there, but you know, no, not sorry.

Ryan: That's what I'm here for. I loved it so much. Too much.

Tommy: Thanks, Ry.

Ryan: Bye, guys.

Tommy: See ya.

Ryan: Good luck, mate.