Tommy references Kleon's point about hobbies becoming side hustles.
Referenced via 'Steal Like an Artist' idea that there are no new ideas, only remixes.
Author of 'Keep Going,' the book Tommy reads from throughout the episode.
Mentioned alongside Seth Godin on the idea that everything has to be a side hustle.
Tommy references a book by Austin Kleon about artists deliberately making bad art to get unstuck.
Author of a book Josh bought and wrote off as a business expense, used in the book-money discussion.
Tommy mentions reading an Austin Kleon book the night before.
Josh references Austin Kleon's book Steal Like an Artist as part of his book collection.
Author of Steal Like an Artist and Keep Going, whose ideas about hobbies vs side hustles and newspaper blackout poems are discussed.
Author of 'Steal Like an Artist' whose blog discusses reading with a pencil, referenced by Josh.
Author of 'Steal Like an Artist' who Josh interviewed, using Trevor to test the recording software beforehand.
Ryan Jon references Austin Kleon's advice (from Tommy's other podcast) about doing what you're passionate about and letting your audience find you.
Josh references Austin Kleon's idea of borrowing inspiration from outside your own industry.
Author referenced for his ideas on creativity being a hybrid/mashup of influences.
Author of Steal Like an Artist; Tommy got him on his podcast despite Kleon saying he never does interviews.