Quirks & Clubs

Tommy: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 554.

Josh: Caffeinated up, it's a Sunday, it's weekend banter. How are we, guys?

Tommy: Happy Sunday, everyone.

Josh: Feeling good vibes.

Tommy: It's, um, final Sunday before Christmas. Yeah, cheers.

Josh: It, um, it actually, it feels like holidays as much as we're sort of pushing through before Chrissy. It, uh, it really does. There's a, there's a vibe about it, definitely.

Tommy: Do you know what, I brought 'Fuck yeah, that's crazy,' says Fordo in the comments. The original, the OG, 'That's crazy.' If you're just, uh, joining us now, which you would be, uh, we do a live Instagram, uh, stream sometimes. Yes. And so we've got a bunch of people. Yeah, Fordo says, 'Fuck yeah,' he's getting around it, around it.

Josh: Um, do you reckon you could trademark 'That's crazy'? That'd be great.

Tommy: Could we work on getting a trademark 'That's crazy'? I'd be up for it.

Josh: If we get successfully get it, Ben, will you, um, give us the money back that we spend on your trademark?

Tommy: Yeah, but maybe there could be some form of share, like we could share the trademark or something. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, I just wonder how we would— I mean, yeah, anyway, yeah, yeah, that definitely. No, I, um, I thought given it's getting very close to the end of the year, uh, I'd bring out the book Keep Going: 10 Ways to Stay Creative in Good Times and Bad.

Josh: Ah, interesting.

Tommy: Cleon.

Josh: Yeah, I like his books. They're small, they're just sort of little squares, easy to digest. Cool sort of like little quotes throughout on one page and then sort of information on the other.

Tommy: I love it. And so he's— what I thought I could do is go through the chapter titles and you can tell me which one you like. I can go into it.

Josh: Okay. Yeah. Okay. So choose your own.

Tommy: Choose your own adventure.

Josh: I choose the adventure.

Tommy: Exactly. Number 1, Every Day is Groundhog Day. Fuck, feel that right now. 2, Build a Bliss Station. 3, forget the noun, do the verb. 4, make gifts, not gifts, it's gifts. 5, the ordinary plus extra attention equals the extraordinary. 6, slay the art monsters. Got a bit of saliva, don't I? Did you hear that? Slay. Yeah. 7, you're allowed to change your mind. 8, when in doubt, tidy up. 9, demons hate fresh air. And 10, Plant Your Garden. Which one would you like me to—

Josh: Slay the Art Monsters.

Tommy: Slay the Art Monsters.

Josh: Only because I don't get it, I don't understand it.

Tommy: So, okay, I'm sure he's thought about it. Sure.

Josh: Okay. Hasn't written a chapter that he doesn't understand.

Tommy: Um, so I guess the only— you are— so that was number 6.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: So I'm just going to go to 6 in the book. That's how chapters work. Okay, uh, here we go. Here's a, here's a little reading. This is from Austin Clown's book Keep going. Um, art is for life, not the other way around.

Josh: Yeah, life is for art. It's not—

Tommy: is for life, not the other way around. Okay, my nominee for one of the dumbest sentences ever spoken about art goes to '60 Minutes' commentator Andy Rooney, who said of Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain, after his suicide, no one's art is better than the person who creates it. Take a quick dip into any one of thousands of years of art history and you'll find that no, actually, plenty of great art was made by jerks, creeps, assholes, vampires, perverts, and perverts, and worse, and worse, all of whom left a trail of victims in their wake.

Josh: Wasn't Picasso a bit of a— there was something— someone—

Tommy: pervert.

Josh: It was someone.

Tommy: To steal a term from Jenny Offill's Department of Speculation, these people are what we call art monsters. It can be hard and downright painful to grapple with the idea that people we find reprehensible in their personal lives might also be capable of producing work that is beautiful, moving, or useful to us. How we handle and process that information and how we choose to move forward is part of our work. Now, we all have our own little art monsters inside us. So there you go. And so it goes on.

Josh: Some more monsterish than others. Michael Jackson was an art monster.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, how do you reconcile all of that sort of stuff? I think you picked a pretty dark chapter, to be honest.

Josh: I definitely did.

Tommy: Is he saying all of, uh, Harvey Weinstein's movies? Yeah, Megan, the dark arts.

Josh: Yeah, I don't— is it saying that you— bad people can create great things?

Tommy: Yeah, well, I guess so. I think part of it is that you can, um, there is a bit of a detachment to the art, so you can create beautiful artwork but also be a monster, or vice versa. And so the, the learning could be to be a bit detached.

Mason: Maybe.

Tommy: I don't know.

Josh: Yeah, I mean, can I just be a piece of shit from here on out?

Tommy: I think it's hard having a podcast and doing that 7 days a week. Too hard.

Josh: Too revealing. Yeah, you'd be outed as an asshole quite quickly. Yeah, I mean, no one would want to be around you.

Tommy: I actually always think it— now this is the narcissist in me, but I always, um, I think about in 50 years' time and think about like all of us in an interview setting where we have to reminisce on each other and what we were like. And so Mr. Nice would be like, oh yeah, Josh, he would always wear running shorts. Yeah. And he always insisted on doing this and doing that. Do you think I'm a narcissist? Is that narcissistic?

Josh: Are you saying that it's for a— he'd be saying it reflecting like the good times or like just how weird was that? Creepy.

Tommy: Well, just, you know, just things I'm like, I wonder how many of these things that are just sort of fleeting moments we'll look back on. Or, you know, like people say, oh, you know, this person in history, they were always known for doing X, Y, and Z. Yeah, yeah. And like, how much, like, how much of that could we work out right now.

Josh: So, uh, quirks, how, how— yeah, I know what you mean, but I think so, like Mr.

Tommy: 97, for instance, you could say, but like, you could be like, oh, you know, he was always like— what would you say?

Josh: He's still finding himself, he's so young.

Tommy: But that's like the fun of the quirk.

Josh: Yeah, but I don't— I, I— you can't push quirks. Yeah, like my dad's best mate who we should have on this show.

Tommy: Big quirk.

Josh: Um, where he has worn like a pair of the same shoes for 25 years. Like, what shoes? I don't know. He's— the point is he wears shorts and shoes, like, uh, more dress shorts than your fucking PT shorts, actually. But he's a quirk. He has money to buy these kind of— like, he could wear new clothes all the time. Craig Harper. Yeah, yeah, our good mate.

Tommy: He's actually on the stream.

Josh: Hey, hey, baby. Um, camo shorts. Craig's not pushing this, it's just Craig. And so what I'm saying is, how do you find— how do you become so— like, how do you just be, um, uh, what's that, like, um, how do you be you and unapologetic about it? Because that's just Craig. You're not going to tell Craig fucking not wear camo. And so no one tells Craig what to wear.

Tommy: But what do you think about being able to then deconstruct and say, okay, we haven't been doing this Like, we haven't been trying to create a thing. No, but the risk is that you become a tryhard, which I am, let's be clear. I mentioned it with Jon Saffron. Bree said, did you hear something in an interview about Jon Saffron talking about posers? I'm like, no. So why did you keep bringing it up? You were sort of adamant about him being a poser or you being a poser. So I was like, so did you like the chat?

Josh: The tryhard thing I'm a tryhard.

Tommy: I'm the biggest fucking tryhard going around.

Josh: So, okay, well, for instance, electric skateboards, hat backwards, you're a tryhard. Or are you? Because I've seen somebody that I thought, not even tryhard, I'm just like, oh, they look so like they're really trying to fit a persona here. I mean, that— I do that. I've got an electric skateboard, I wear my hat backwards.

Tommy: I've got these glasses.

Josh: But I've been skating all my— like, I've been skating since I was fucking young.

Tommy: You've been a tryhard since you were young.

Josh: I remember the pressure of being a young, young person, young adolescent that was worried about being called a tryhard. Like, and so what it meant was I was out of alignment with how I felt about like a new style of clothing, and, and then how I— so how I personally felt inside while wearing my pants down low.

Tommy: How would you describe, if we were to like— I'm just thinking about even in a biography sense, like if I had to write a book about the whole experience, I'd be like, Mr. 97, he's big, he's big, obnoxious smoothie, green smoothie.

Josh: Oh yeah. He talks with his mouth full of smoothie.

Tommy: So Mr. 97 walks into the office, he's got his obnoxious smoothie. I'll do it.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Mm.

Josh: Oh, Tommy, can you do this? It's so fucking annoying.

Tommy: And so yeah, so there'd be that. Um, what are, what are some other quirks on 97? Do you know your own quirks?

Mason: No, not really.

Josh: Does anyone know their own quirks?

Tommy: I know mine, yeah.

Mason: Is that because they're pointed out so much?

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: What? Yeah.

Tommy: So a new quirk that I want to create, I want to be the guy that's like, I want to be the guy that's always on the phone.

Josh: You're fucking annoying.

Tommy: That's what that would—

Josh: like, that guy would be.

Tommy: You would always just— just on the phone calls, like phone calls, just like a salesman. Just— yeah, but not selling anything, just on the phone. What do you think as a quirk?

Josh: It's—

Tommy: I mean, what are you Googling?

Josh: It's a— it's a bit obnoxious. I'm on my phone, but I'm looking for— I'm looking for something to bring up.

Tommy: Well, so we don't like that.

Mason: It's gonna be you.

Tommy: So the other quirk, uh, oh, Lynn Jansen's just joined us. Lynn, she's probably, um, boarding a flight right now off to North Carolina.

Josh: Fly safe.

Tommy: Um, the— she was— this is what, um, happens because I had Virgin status once. She's always asking like, can you get us into the Qantas lounge?

Josh: Yeah, your son isn't that powerful.

Tommy: Yeah, they're not even attached, Mum.

Josh: Um, but, uh, what is— so someone who has a quirk without knowing, like, I'm just trying to work out how you form quirks. You so want to do it, my runners, you so just want to do something for you. Like, this isn't a bad thing, what do you stand for? But your Asics are like, nah, my back hurts if I don't wear, so I don't care what shoe you want me to wear, I'm fucking wearing these. So then you become— I think it becomes a quirk.

Tommy: So that's one quirk that I have is that I always wear Asics.

Josh: Yeah, but then you don't want to sort of lean into it because then you're like, this is my quirk. So you're like, you're trying to embody it. It's like you actually do it because you're backshot and you've— we were once overweight and had slipped discs. So is this— see what I mean? Like, so is there something that could lose that?

Tommy: Could you lean— I just wonder if you could lean into it potentially.

Josh: Yeah, definitely.

Tommy: Like, what is one of them?

Josh: So I'll just tell you, a kid I went to high school— that's not even a quirk. It was a— he kept changing like Looks. Looks. And I— and you can be told you're a tryhard if you keep changing looks. And he got to a point where he changed his looks so much, went to like tattoos.

Tommy: Did you ever go like emo or goth?

Josh: Nah, nah, nah, wasn't into that.

Tommy: Okay.

Josh: I did the earring thing, a bunch of different earrings.

Mason: You would— I was just Googling a list of 500 character quirks and traits.

Josh: Yeah, good idea.

Mason: Number 98, vegan or vegetarian.

Tommy: Is that a quirk?

Josh: Is that— oh, that's probably What other quirk?

Mason: Temp quirk.

Josh: Temp quirk.

Tommy: What else is there? I've got a lot of temp quirks.

Mason: Obsessions with a certain colour.

Tommy: Yeah, great.

Mason: A great or bad dancer.

Tommy: That's a quirk. I've got that.

Mason: Someone who breathes from their mouth.

Josh: Yes.

Tommy: I can't do that.

Josh: Like a mouth breather.

Mason: You could be, you could be the guy that breathes through his mouth.

Tommy: It's not enough. I think, to be honest, the dancing thing I really relate to. I had a few Aperol Spritz last night and I was just like, doing the same motion over and over again.

Josh: Like, I'm just trying to work out, does it become a quirk? So you just— you can't dance? I mean, everyone can dance, they just have to move a bit. But if you can't dance, like, you're not— you're the guy that doesn't have rhythm, so that's how you dance. Is that then a quirk? I don't know if you don't— like, your dancing's not quirky, you just can't do the good dancing.

Tommy: But someone who can't dance that then leans into dancing, that becomes a quirk, no?

Josh: Yeah, I'm trying to work out how their character— how they come up— how do they— how do they classify—

Tommy: What are some other quirks, Seb's?

Mason: Because I definitely dream constantly.

Tommy: Quirk. Yeah.

Josh: What is it? Can you just— what's the definition of quirk?

Mason: Addicted to texting. So your calling could be a quirk.

Josh: Yeah, that is a quirk. I don't—

Tommy: I—

Josh: maybe it's—

Tommy: Do you have any quirks or no?

Josh: Well, maybe I'm just so quirky that I don't know what they are. It's—

Mason: a quirk is a peculiar aspect of a person's character or behavior.

Josh: Subjective.

Tommy: Peculiar. So what's peculiar about you?

Josh: Yeah, what is it? What is it? I wear hats. No, no, see, like, I'm really having to dig.

Tommy: Like, you probably— you've got like fashion sense like Tim Ferriss.

Josh: That's so offensive, dude. What?

Tommy: That has really been taken I just think like you never— have you ever cared about what you wear? Yeah, like the Running Gun shirt looks great, obviously.

Josh: What are you talking about? I look better than you do.

Tommy: Yeah, no, but I reckon I've got better fashion sense than you. Yours is very eclectic.

Josh: What does that mean?

Tommy: Like eclectic is just like, oh, like old shit.

Josh: Yeah, because I couldn't afford new clothes.

Tommy: Mikey's giving you a pair of pants, you've got my runners on, you've got the— yeah, a little bit.

Mason: Josh, I've just found a list of yours.

Tommy: Oh great, a list of mine. Who's written about me?

Mason: Teacher's pet. Always on the phone. Only eats anything coated in chocolate. Picks scabs.

Josh: Yes.

Mason: Loses everything easily.

Tommy: Yeah. What is that, the teacher's pet quote? What does that mean?

Mason: I'm just a teacher's pet.

Tommy: Okay. No, definitely. I can relate to all of those.

Josh: Yeah. I'm trying to work out what—

Mason: Can't cook. This collects rocks. Do you collect rocks?

Tommy: I would.

Mason: You're—

Tommy: yeah, I own a fountain pen.

Mason: Can you write in cursive?

Tommy: Sort of, yeah.

Josh: That's a quirk. If you can— maybe like an unusual skill is a quirk. I don't know, like—

Tommy: No, Seven, come on, let's— I think we need to give Tommy— it's like a personal branding thing.

Josh: I want a quirk. I don't think—

Tommy: I know what you're— I know what your quirk is. What is it?

Mason: What is it?

Tommy: You always have stuff on your clothes, like you've always dropped food. Yeah, and you always blame Bodie.

Mason: I was just about to blame him.

Tommy: You've always got shit. Yeah, so that's a quirk.

Josh: Definitely.

Tommy: Oh, you know, just being obnoxious about your coffee order and like how much milk. Like, I reckon, like, we got these coffees from McDonald's and as soon as you asked for a 3/4 latte—

Mason: Your quirk is also pushing for shit.

Josh: Oh yeah, okay.

Mason: You just push the boundaries.

Tommy: It's a good quirk, but yeah. So what, how would you describe what, what's an example that he's done that recently?

Mason: Oh, like sneaking into the— well, not sneaking in, getting into the Virgin Lounge. Yeah, sure, doing that stuff. Pushing for the, um, sauce when the chips were dry or something was dry at, um, George's place.

Tommy: George?

Mason: The restaurant. George Calombaris.

Tommy: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You asked for the tzatziki, which is extra, and you said, this is just so dry, guys, I need some form of dip. And they just handed you dip. I'm thinking, that's extra. I just gave it to you.

Josh: I love that.

Tommy: Uh, Dr. K said a teacher's pet equals following all instructions. Instructions and rats on others. I definitely rat on others. Uh, I guess these are like personal brand values, essentially.

Josh: Yeah, but see, what you just described is what I do without thinking. So this is why—

Tommy: intentional quirks, or you don't— you think that's a dangerous area to play?

Josh: Intentional, like, if you, you are— I think it's— what is a tryhard? What is— can you look up the definition of a tryhard?

Tommy: Tries hard to impress others.

Josh: Yeah. And so the tryhard would be the person that says, I want to be the guy that wears camo shorts all the time.

Tommy: You don't think Harper's doing that?

Josh: Not at all. Harper has 4 pairs of pants and they're all camo.

Tommy: So what's it— why does he do it?

Josh: He looks great in a suit, by the way.

Mason: His muscles.

Josh: Comfort? Mate, I don't know.

Tommy: But why? Like, let's deconstruct that.

Josh: Why? He's comfy. Yeah, he's comfy.

Tommy: But you know that they're the same comfort if they're like a different color.

Josh: He's a— does it?

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: Doesn't need to. They just do it for him, you know?

Tommy: So I understand the shorts bit, but the camo bit?

Josh: Just likes camo.

Mason: He loves the pockets.

Tommy: But that's—

Mason: you want the colour of the camo?

Tommy: No, that's cargo. But he was into camo.

Josh: He was into camo and liked camo and wanted to continue wearing camo. It's a quirk. I think minimalists are quirks, like someone who buys 20 of the same shirt. Matt D'Avella.

Tommy: Yeah, big quirk.

Josh: We love quirks.

Tommy: I think quirks— I think we—

Mason: Harry.

Tommy: Harry.

Josh: Harry. Yeah, we see.

Tommy: That's why I love, love— I love everyone with quirks.

Josh: It's, it's colorful. Quirks are colorful. Quirks bring colour to our lives.

Tommy: What's Tall Gronk's quirks? Peter Shepherd.

Josh: Um, his socks. Like socks.

Mason: He loves his socks.

Josh: Loves his socks. But I could feel like he would leave a social setting to get home because he needs to do something. Like, I feel like that would be— I don't know for sure, but I'd be like, ghosting is a quirk potentially. I can imagine that. Tuna salad.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's a quirk. Yeah, it's like pizza or whatever, and he's like, oh no, I've already eaten. I'm like, eat some pizza.

Josh: So true. Um, maybe, maybe Seb's quirk could be his hair. Now that it's like, he actually really loves it, it makes him feel real good. So now he's just—

Mason: there's literally number 219 dyes their hair a different colour constantly.

Josh: A different color?

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: I mean, are you gonna go about your—

Tommy: what about your gym stuff? That's a bit quirky. Like the fact that—

Josh: well, the fact that like when we're in LA like, maybe, no, chatting to people in the sauna. Yeah, that's a bit of a quirk. I think Conspiracy Jimmy, very quirky.

Tommy: Too Many Coffees, big quirk.

Josh: Big quirk, but also does it like he, and I respect him for this, he doesn't like to break his structure. So, you know, his routine, yeah, goes to, you know, gets into work, has 17 coffees, does his work, goes, he's on the way to the gym, coming past our office, I'm like, dude, can you, can you just pull in and just say hi and just cheque it? Sorry, dude, I got to get to the gym. I get there by this time. Like, that's a quirky guy.

Tommy: Non-negotiables.

Josh: No negs.

Tommy: So I've got a good non-neg, like leaving the house with AirPods. What about the other day when Amy accidentally took my headphones?

Mason: You were fuming.

Tommy: And so Bri had to pick me up from work because I couldn't walk home. That's a quirk.

Josh: You know what else is a quirk? Going to sleep with like— not— I can't go to sleep unless I listen to something.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Like anything where it's like, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tommy: That's a quirk.

Josh: It's a real quirky behavior.

Mason: A little audiobook. There's— they've literally written one here, has an STD.

Tommy: That's a bit of a quirk.

Josh: More than a quirk.

Tommy: Yeah, like, um, what about like things around hygiene? I think 97 not using soap is a quirk.

Josh: Oh yeah, the guy that, um, is looking into sunglasses.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah.

Mason: What about, what about your everything has to be perfect for you?

Tommy: What does that mean?

Mason: Well, everything has to be in alignment for you to do stuff.

Tommy: Sure.

Josh: Is that one of them?

Mason: Well, no, there's one here: always knows the phase of the moon.

Tommy: Uh, so BK asked, when does a quirk become a mental illness? True, it's got a good point.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, like, um, I mean, autism, obsessive compulsive disorder, you see how it can sort of—

Tommy: spectra, I guess it's the spectrum of quirks. Yeah.

Josh: Like when you, when something, transfixed on it, and like the structure thing, you can't break it, you'll go to any means.

Tommy: But you know what I tried for the first time this weekend? Bri got some, what's it called, Remedy?

Josh: Rescue Remedy?

Tommy: Yeah, Rescue Remedy.

Josh: Oh, the spray one?

Tommy: Yeah, yeah.

Josh: Mum used to be into the drops. I mean, it did nothing. What's it meant to do?

Tommy: It's meant to like calm you down or something. Yeah, I think it's a mental, uh, brain's carrying with it. He's just carrying it.

Josh: Yeah, a lot of people do.

Tommy: I can—

Josh: they've got alcohol in it.

Tommy: Is it got alcohol? That's what I thought.

Josh: Well, some— maybe the new one doesn't have alcohol. Can I have a little bit? Yeah, well, actually, no, I can't. I don't drink.

Tommy: But I don't think it actually does have alcohol in it. They used to—

Josh: flour— they used to say don't have it while you're driving because it just could come up. It's not going to make you drunk. Um, I want to bring back word of the day, uh, because I— it's— this conversation is very much this word. Mr. 97, can you look up the meaning of this word? I'd never heard it. Maybe other people have. Maybe that's my quirk, that I'm dumb.

Tommy: Yeah, it's a quirk.

Josh: Malachy. Spelt M-A-L-A-R-K-A-K-E-Y. Maliki. Someone wrote us— I'll give you the, um, context. Uh, someone commented, is it Maliki or Malaki? I don't know how to—

Tommy: is it Malaki? Like, Malaki could be like you're a Malaka.

Josh: No, no, no. So it's Maliki. I hadn't said it out loud, I just read it and then I looked it up. So, um, someone— I was going to say their username, I can't even say their username, it's on YouTube. Makes no sense. That chocolate at the party, Maliki.

Tommy: Oh yeah, sure, it's Malaki.

Mason: I just Googled the pronunciation.

Josh: So, that chocolate at the party, Malaki, Malaki. It wouldn't matter to me if I knew the people well or not. I'd just say, sorry dude, that's actually for someone else. That's on a previous episode, 400— I just hit 552. 552 episode. What does it mean?

Mason: Meaningless talk or nonsense.

Josh: I mean, it's the— it's the— it's, it's our show. Yeah.

Tommy: So it's almost like— I wonder if it plays into the word malarkey. Malaka.

Josh: Malaka.

Tommy: I think that's like, um, dumb person though.

Josh: Fucking something.

Mason: Yeah.

Tommy: Yeah. Okay.

Josh: It was the word that I used to—

Tommy: yeah, love to lean on.

Josh: Yeah.

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: I think it was— yeah, the one like from Gogglebox would always—

Tommy: yeah. Yeah.

Josh: Like an idiot. Anyway, malarkey.

Tommy: Malaki.

Josh: Sorry, Malaki. Did you look up the, like, the— can you just play how the pronounce thing? Play it. Here we go.

Mason: Yep, give me a second.

Josh: Google Pronounce, saving people's lives.

Mason: The origin.

Josh: Malaki.

Tommy: Malaki.

Josh: Malaki.

Tommy: Malaki.

Josh: Malaki.

Tommy: Makes it— you don't have to say it like that.

Josh: Um, could be a quirk to reel out words that are kind of like most people won't know.

Tommy: No, I like that. I mean, Jason Fox does a great job of that, like, using words and things. Book club. What are you laughing at?

Mason: Just using words and things.

Josh: He's smart.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, he is. Yeah, very smart. Um, what do we think about a book club for next year?

Mason: Um, do you want to look after it?

Josh: You do it, I've got no interest.

Tommy: What do you think, 90 Sevz?

Josh: I mean, you got to start reading first.

Mason: Yeah, I mean, if you get—

Tommy: I'm listening to a lot of audiobooks.

Mason: I'll tag along.

Tommy: What should it like, um, what should some of the rules be like? Because I think I was planning on doing a book a week.

Josh: No, no, that's huge. That's so—

Tommy: Yeah, that's a big effort. But yeah, what could the format be of a book club?

Mason: One a month.

Tommy: One a month. And so I'll—

Josh: Sorry, I just forgot to message my wife.

Tommy: Should I do—

Josh: She's watching.

Tommy: Oh yeah, come and pick him up now, Amy. Is that what you want?

Josh: She just messaged. I was meant to message her as we started this episode.

Tommy: Okay, sure.

Josh: But she just wrote, how you going? Which she could be watching on the live stream.

Tommy: So, okay, we've just had some feedback. Book club boring. No, who wrote that?

Mason: Ickley.

Tommy: Yeah, Ickley.

Mason: I think it's Elkleigh.

Josh: Dude, I couldn't think of anything more boring than a book club, to be honest. But that's not to say that I—

Tommy: like, I would love—

Josh: I want to do the outdoors club, so I want to do the adventure club.

Mason: Oh yeah, oh yeah, you could bring like a little survival tip every single week.

Josh: Could do that, but I could also go on adventures with people. We could do— I don't know.

Tommy: Oh yeah, like a survival thing.

Mason: Okay, well, because I want to do the first aid thing.

Tommy: Yeah, he wants—

Mason: I want to get better at like— no, no, I don't even want to do the course. I just want to be handy enough to do first aid. The course is low level.

Tommy: You can just get better than the course. Yeah, you want to do like paramedics?

Mason: Yeah, but I want to know more than just CPR. You want to know like where to tie things and all that sort of stuff.

Josh: Oh, you—

Mason: yeah, stop blood flow and all that. Yeah.

Josh: How to create a tourniquet.

Mason: Yeah, yeah, all that sort of stuff.

Josh: If you get bitten by a snake, what do you do?

Mason: Exactly.

Josh: It's— I mean, we should get a bit more outdoorsy. You can bring your book club thing around the fire.

Tommy: So could we do some— maybe there needs to be a little bit more structure in 2020 in regards to the show.

Josh: Yeah, definitely.

Tommy: Could we do so like outdoors? Maybe we both are the presidents of a club each.

Mason: Yes.

Tommy: So I'm the president of the book club.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: You're the president of the outdoors club. 97. What are you the president of? You can't be like medical. I don't know if the medical one— it's too similar to the outdoors, I think.

Mason: No, that's what I mean. I wouldn't do a club for it.

Tommy: Yeah.

Mason: Well, who would rock up to that?

Tommy: So who would you—

Mason: I think, I think that just comes under a section of Tommy's club.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And so, but just don't be a bitch about it. What's your club? You know, you can't be the fucking treasurer of the outdoor—

Josh: like, okay, he wants a treasure, he wants a piece of my club.

Tommy: Yeah, no, do you want to own it?

Mason: I want to be a part of the club.

Tommy: No, well, we can all be— we're all going to be part of the club.

Josh: Quirk is he just wants to be a part of everyone's something.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, but won't do anything himself.

Josh: Yeah, but that's his quirk, that's his quirk.

Tommy: Doesn't—

Josh: don't wanna—

Mason: yeah, I don't want a club.

Josh: That's— isn't this quirky guy pushing back on any ownership?

Tommy: Now come on, the Airtable Club, give them a think of any good words and systems.

Josh: Yeah, seriously, do a tech club. No chess club?

Mason: No, would you? I can't play chess.

Tommy: I would actually love— it's probably a bit late, but for Christmas I'd love a chessboard. Quirk. I just get us—

Josh: I mean, the guy that's got the book club also has the chess— yeah, chess thing.

Mason: So do you know how to play, uh, chess?

Tommy: It's been a while, but I would just watch a YouTube video, I'll be fine. So what club are you going to do, in all seriousness? Just fucking 2020, what you said that you, you want to lean in. Yeah, yeah.

Josh: What are you leaning into?

Tommy: So yeah, if you don't have a club, what are you leaning into?

Josh: Nothing.

Tommy: So I was going to potentially like the sports club for me, but I think that that's, um, I think we go more core. Like, I, I, oh, I did like a little suction thing on the the coffee cup, which has made my hand go red. So I'm going to go book club because that's actually something that I'm serious about. The sports club thing would be a bit of a—

Mason: Coconut Club.

Josh: Ah, just what about like—

Tommy: What's something you can actually do? You can own? What about—

Josh: I'm trying to workshopping this, like the Tight Ass Club, like something you're always about, like trying to get a bit of frugal.

Tommy: Frugal. What about the Financial Independent Retire Early? Oh yeah, Fire Club.

Mason: Because I can't do financial advice, we get done for.

Josh: We're not trying to fucking con people here. Or like, you're the guy that buys $1 pairs of socks from eBay.

Mason: I've got holes in them now.

Tommy: What about the Life Hacking Club?

Mason: Decision.

Tommy: What about Life Hacker Club?

Josh: Yeah, sauna stuff, like you can have fitness in there as well.

Mason: Oh yeah, yeah, Life Hacker Club. Yeah, I like that.

Josh: I like adventures, like the So what you're right is the true to you thing.

Tommy: Like, yes, movie club, says Jasmine. Yesterday I was specific.

Josh: I want to, um, I mean, that could be a life hack, right?

Mason: Like how to get, how to get your 6 servings of veggies in a day.

Josh: It is your quirk. Like, I, I've told you that you could die from using frozen spinach, but you, you refuse not to. Yeah, you refuse to.

Tommy: I don't even know 6 vegetables. Like, how can you get 6 in there?

Mason: I put sweet potato in my smoothie this morning.

Josh: Quirky motherfucker.

Mason: Sweet potato, cauliflower, and zucchini.

Josh: Oh, that's a sour thing.

Mason: Sweet. And, and then frozen berries.

Josh: Okay.

Mason: And then frozen spinach.

Tommy: And then what about the liquid?

Mason: Cacao nibs.

Tommy: That sounds fucking disgusting.

Mason: Chia seeds.

Tommy: It actually sounds gross.

Mason: Yogurt. It's fine.

Josh: It's also like cement.

Mason: No, no, because my new blender. It's fine.

Tommy: Oh, that sounds— but this is—

Josh: he's a quirk.

Tommy: So yeah, but what is your club? Seriously, give it some real thought because you're gonna have to commit to it. And we're gonna do sort of— I think that what we do is we do like a Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, or like a Monday, Wednesday, Friday.

Mason: No, well, Friday is a Fat I don't want to sort of—

Tommy: so I think that we sort of pick a day that we are in charge of that thing. So adventure, adventure club is good.

Josh: You think, Mr. 97. I was thinking yesterday I went for a— we're staying down in Mount Eliza and we went— I wanted to just get quick half an hour of exercise in. And so I was like, okay, I went for a run and I ran down this path and I saw this big pipe that was going across like a stream, and I was like, I'm gonna walk across that.

Tommy: Like sewage pipe?

Josh: Yeah, it's like a sewage pipe, big thick one. And I walked out and I was like super high, I was like 7 metres down. Oh wow. And I got to this point where you get a photo. Nah, but it did happen. I know what you're pushing for. And there was huge spikes with barbed wire, so I couldn't go. They were stopping gronks like me from doing shit like this. And then I was like, went back down, jumped down, went across the path, and I found this like, um, downhill mountain bike course, and I ran up it. And I was— I thought like, this is an adventure. And then on the way back, oh, and then I went to a primary school, found like a rock climbing wall. I was just getting it, getting amongst it. But I was like, I'm just being silly and I'm sort of having fun and playing. And I was like, that's adventure, and I want more of that in 2020. So it fits in, which is—

Tommy: I think that I could come up— this is the interesting thing about '97— I could come up with like 20 clubs right now for me.

Josh: No, but what you've said is smack bang, uh, you've got to do the thing that's actually close to you.

Tommy: So like, so that's what you're—

Josh: you're not the adventure guy.

Tommy: I have anything, but I could— I actually think I could.

Josh: Yeah, but your point— hang on, you just said this, we can watch this podcast. You said something like, what is the thing natural to you?

Tommy: And so you could be—

Josh: you can be part of my adventure club, don't worry about it.

Tommy: But we're talking about who's going to be the president. My issue is that 97 literally has nothing in his life.

Josh: That's his quirk. What do you got? Nothing. Anytime.

Tommy: What are you standing like?

Josh: He's gone.

Tommy: You said you want to lean into something, but seriously, yeah, we need to add something.

Josh: Hang on, hang on, hang on. The First Club.

Tommy: No, it feels to me, it feels too much like we've applied that to him. What do you like? What are you passionate about?

Mason: I like the Life Hacker Club. That's great.

Josh: Which means you have to try stuff you're already doing. So you've got all the shit you do do.

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: So you got your smoothies, music club, you're buying cheap shit.

Tommy: Yeah, you don't even pay for Spotify Premium.

Mason: No, I've got the 3-month trial now just so I have it on my iPhone.

Josh: Mason, what about this?

Mason: Frugal.

Josh: We're getting serious now. If you had a huge YouTube channel that was specific to a certain thing that you would want to actually do continually What is that thing? That's how you think, Josh. Just let him, let him answer. What is it? Come on, come on, son, give it to us. What is it? Well, you don't—

Tommy: I mean, do you see the problem? This is why you don't like dates. There's nothing to talk about. I'm serious though.

Josh: What are they saying on Instagram?

Tommy: They're saying, uh, Um, Ike Lee says, I love the show, guys. I've been binge-watching the show over the past week. It's amazing, good conversations. Love the Bogan app. Which app? They're all bogan apps.

Josh: They're all bogans.

Tommy: But, um, thank you. Let us know in the— do your phonetic name in the comments, please.

Josh: Um, don't get distracted, mate.

Tommy: What is it? What is, what is the actual thing?

Mason: What's wrong with the Lifehacker Club?

Tommy: Well, I came up with it. I feel like you're just going with whatever I say, which is—

Josh: He did the Frugal Club. I don't want to let him do that because he's—

Tommy: because boring. You're just going to go on OzBargain and just pick something.

Mason: Mate, you're the one who gets 6 books.

Josh: At Quirk, this kid gets like 8 jars of peanut butter.

Mason: When the peanut butter's on sale. No, but that's life hack. That comes under life hack.

Tommy: Okay, maybe it is life hack.

Josh: Life hack.

Mason: Yeah, look, that's all-encompassing.

Tommy: That's what I— that's the issue I have with it.

Josh: Like, is it what you're thinking about?

Mason: Like, oh yeah, I've got notifications when peanut butter goes on sale.

Tommy: What about the Automation Club? Automating your life?

Josh: If This Then That?

Tommy: Yeah, like, exactly.

Josh: Like, is that—

Mason: nah, that's boring.

Josh: All right, life— look, listen, you can go with the most generic name.

Tommy: What annoys me is there's a fucking website called Lifehacker. It will just go on there and read out what I put on there.

Josh: Listen, I'll give you my— I'll give you my fashion advice, and you can look like Tim Ferriss and have your lifehacker a club. It's all good.

Tommy: And so, all right, mine's book club. This is starting January 6th, will be our first, uh, um, episode where we're talking about clubs.

Josh: Well, I think, um, also it could be like—

Tommy: we need homework.

Josh: Well, I was thinking about like, um, so next year doing more things where we're interacting with humans, i.e., people who get around the show.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: But imagine, like, I don't want to have anything to do with your book club other than I'll rock up to the fucking cafe or whatever.

Tommy: Sure.

Josh: And I'll then just be there because it's a two-for-one deal. Yeah.

Tommy: The thing is that I'm going to get access to all authors and stuff.

Josh: I know. That's what I'm saying is I'm a part of it. I'm a part of it too. But I don't want anything. I don't want to do any admin. And likewise. So I'll do the Adventure Club, and then it's like you, you just experience it.

Tommy: Who could be some people that you could get as guests that are sort of, oh, club representatives? Bear Grylls.

Josh: Oh, you're saying representatives. I was thinking like guests. Yeah, yeah, Jesse, Jesse Martin.

Tommy: Jesse Martin would be great.

Josh: He, um, sailed around the world at like 16 or 17 years old. Fucking unbelievable.

Tommy: And then you, 97, with Lifehacker. Who the fuck do you bring in?

Josh: Seriously, what heavy hitter are you pulling out?

Tommy: It's gonna be like a Nomad or something.

Mason: Well, it depends on the, the category.

Tommy: I guess could come in.

Mason: It depends what category you're talking about.

Josh: Fitness.

Mason: If you're talking about, yeah, finance, right?

Josh: This is your club, you give us the answer.

Tommy: Yeah. So do you— if you were to talk about the pillars of the club, it's a life hacker club. We specialise in 6 areas of your life.

Mason: That's all encompassing.

Tommy: Sex.

Josh: Sex.

Tommy: Yeah, what are they? Is it really sex?

Josh: Well, I guess that's health. Sexual health. Or sexual health.

Mason: I mean, you got to get an expert in for that.

Josh: Um, what are people saying on Instagram?

Tommy: Uh, ikelee says the app where you overheard the conversation about the fart between Tracey and Darren. Lisa is her name. I'm trying to remember that episode, the fart overheard. That might have been you.

Josh: That could be me.

Tommy: Oh yeah, there's a cooking club. Bree's yelling out off mic. Yeah, yeah, you just don't cook enough.

Josh: He just—

Tommy: as is your bro Sam would be better at that.

Mason: Yeah, he would be.

Tommy: So, okay, he cooked last night actually. What did he cook?

Mason: Uh, chicken on the barbecue. And a cauliflower salad thing.

Tommy: Is he gonna have macarons? Malaki. Malaki.

Josh: Malaki.

Mason: Malaki. Macarons. Are they coming to Christmas?

Tommy: At our Christmas?

Josh: No.

Mason: Oh, he'll have to make them.

Josh: Malaki.

Tommy: Okay, soon.

Josh: This is a malaki one.

Mason: Anyway, they're all out. You can have— no, actually, you probably can't have any of the gingerbread.

Tommy: Why?

Mason: Well, because you can't. It's not for you.

Josh: One of Josh's quirks, going off on fucking Random tangents.

Tommy: Okay, so life hacker— So you've got health? What are the other 5? Just start saying them and then you're ticking them off.

Mason: Well, I mean, but there's so much under health.

Josh: Yeah, but yeah, nutrition, you've got to die, you've got no healthy encompasses that because of the kid.

Mason: But that's so broad.

Josh: Yeah, what else are they?

Tommy: Bree's getting annoyed.

Josh: Hurry up! Um, sorry, think about life and then what encompasses life, then say those things. So what are they?

Tommy: We're gonna have to wait. Where are you fighting her now?

Josh: She's nervous for him because he— yeah, okay. Finance.

Mason: Yeah, well, I mean, what's the other?

Tommy: Yeah, health, finance, travel, food, travel.

Mason: Food comes under health.

Josh: No, it doesn't, mate.

Tommy: No, it doesn't, because you can get fucking shit food for you that's cheap.

Mason: That's not part of the— that's not—

Josh: what about— yeah, yeah, but what about like health could be fitness. So it's like, how do you optimise subscriptions?

Tommy: Tech, like Apple?

Mason: Yeah, yeah, tech.

Josh: Now he's starting to realise that there were other things other than health.

Mason: I don't pay— I mean, I guess that's a life hack, not paying for subscriptions.

Tommy: There's lots. Okay, we've got the president of the Adventure Club, president of the Book Club, president of the Life Hacker Club. It's coming in 2020. Hi@thedailytalkshow.com is the email address if you'd like to be involved in the clubs. We'll all have our own email lists where we'll do emails every month. Um, also we're, we're, we're still accepting—

Josh: I've never heard any of this information, but yes, keep going.

Tommy: Sounds good. Yeah, I was thinking, yeah, that We're also accepting any currency to our PO box. We want to see how much money we can get sent to our address through the snail mail.

Josh: I was thinking we should have like a money jar in the office that we just fill. I don't know. It's too confusing. There's too many currencies, so you never actually take anything. But if we're off to Thailand, maybe we can find a few bills.

Tommy: Yeah, sure.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: So, PO box 400, Abbotsford, Victoria 3067. Would love for you to send any currencies. Anything else, Naysays, before we go?

Mason: Nah.

Tommy: Sounds about right. Okay, it's a daily talk show. See you tomorrow, guys.

Josh: See you guys.