#840 – Call Me Old-Fashioned/
- September 2, 2020
We chat about George’s ad in the local paper, Josh’s telehealth meeting, The Melbourne Legacy Bear Hunt, parenting and disciplining, and becoming more emotional as a parent.
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show, we discuss:
- Ads in the local paper
- Josh’s Telehealth meeting
- David Blaine’s postponed stunt
- The Melbourne Legacy Bear Hunt
- Parenting and disciplining
- Aha moments as a parent
- Being more emotional as a parent
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It's the daily Talk Show Episode 840 what's happening guys? What's going on? Happy Hump Day gronk. How are we talking about a hump day? I was listening to it. If you haven't listened to it, just go and type in Hump Day replay on your favourite podcast app and you can listen there. You were. You're on hump day for a little bit. Yeah, it's nice to receive a call. I you know, it was my birthday. So I was pretty pissed that I had to take it but you know, I did. I did. I did. Georgie boy. And what I love about George's project, ie Hump Day replay is that he's, he's sort of flexing that creative muscle of you know, trying to sort of work out how to connect our show, because this is the show about the show hump day with his show. And so one of the ways we were talking about being in the local paper
And yeah, I don't know. Did you mention that you've been in the local paper before or not? I have mentioned a few times. So it was a it was the ones that you're the boy missing. Which one? Which one? It was the Yeah. bit of both. No, but no, it was actually though I had a few those May as with a lamb. Should we play the audio from the from the from the app? Yeah. Yeah. So he's recorded a bit. And in here it is. I've got a little bit of a challenge for you for the daily talk show. Sure. You talked about how you got the local paper the other day, that Eastern edition. Yeah. And you were talking about how you could if it was possible to get an ad in there. Oh, yeah. So I've submitted one
that isn't that easy. Are they free?
Can you open up the paper and see if we get in I'll do a little work, where I actually can get this wrong because I picked it up off a park bench
Okay, so yeah, we're talking local papers, I found one. And it's interesting just to see what's in these things and how they even operating. I worked out where you could get them. George sent me a text message last night and said, he gave me the address of a local news agency. And I found it because it was at the end of my straight.
I went in this morning, got one of the local papers. And the guy said to me, he said one only one, I said, Oh,
my God, I thought this quickly. I said, What about five? Can I take five is one I was like, just kidding. It was he like, oh, okay, so he was you know, he was seriously.
They are free. I mean, it's, it's free on the front, but he just said one only. And so the interesting thing was when you brought up the local paper last week, yes, the local paper was like a South East Eastern paper. It wasn't the eastern edition. No, it was Eastern edition.
We're on the east. Yeah, this is okay. Eastern edition. And so, yeah, it's a free local paper. It's called the
the local paper. It's like where the daily talk show. It's, you know, it's descriptive is in the nice. It's great you've you've never handled in newspaper before. You really don't want a wonky
you know, just out
George, your ads not in there, man.
I mean, I'm getting old. I may need my magnifying glass like my grandpa used to have, but I cannot see your ad in there. I've gone to the I mean, there's a stuff about, you know, Clayton's drug bust. We've got the cat curfew that's happening in 2021 in class in monitors. You have a curfew for cats. While my cat has to be indoors. They should just be indoors all the time. They're sitting in place.
sunup sundown to sunrise curfew for cats couple of the I liked it. They do dot point summaries in these articles 96% of the non cat owners support a nighttime curfew Of course they do.
The majority of cat owners 61% who responded also supported the proposed curfew. So there's you know, for was it 39? So 9% of people, do they just not have a good setup indoors for the cat? Is that the concern? Maybe they just didn't get a response from 39% of people.
That didn't finish it.
Most cat owners 73% already kept their cats in at night and those who oppose the cat curfew believed it was hard to kink to can to contain cats at night and they don't believe that people should wear masks.
The actually when I was staying at my parents when we said when we came back from our long trip
We spent a couple of months mum and dads and the my cat she
she gets put in a spot like she would get put in a
an area of the house. Yeah where there's like a for whatever reason that with the sliding doors and stuff they needed to put hard things up against the door. Yeah, so that my cat couldn't get get through the door. I couldn't slide the door open now that's good mate they are. They can bloody escape those things
hanging out just a strip might strike mentioned or holding a bloody the age. Anyway, I've got an ad here. This is great. It's not your it's not George's ad. But this guy deserves some props. He's He's taken out a full sort of quarter page spread. And he says looking for a professional to run the show. And then he's got George nomina
Ted Ryan. He's a compare and auctioneer promotions, a great journalist, voiceover commercials, race colour, all sports, race nights, TV, radio and press, a respected member of the media. This guy's an ultimate slashy. What's his name? His name is Ted Ryan. And he's even got an email address. That's Optus. optis net.com. Today you
Ted Roy is done. Dude. It's dynamic ads here. It is a circus in this part in this local paper. But anyway, it's not in here. And I, I'm looking in the classified section in the back and it says, this is where you can get your free ad. It's not here, George. Mate, I'd be contacting them. I'd be contacting them this morning to find out where our ad is. Well, Mr. 97 said that he's like George's organised this great thing for Tommy. I don't think it's actually going to be in there. I'm like why he said because he didn't receive any confirmation email.
I was like yeah, yeah I feel like for free i'd you would want a confirmation email there. Just look over George's you know he's had a tough this week he's cat munched through he's Ethernet cable for his internet or power cable for his for the internet box. No annoying to replace the router. Lastly, he had he had a friend had one. And so he got it. He's internet ran out. He was on a 200 gigabyte gigabyte limit. And he went, he lifted Josh. He left. He left it on somehow he used 30 gigabytes over the weekend. I was like, Man, what? How? I know he's like he would have done it be gone. He said he reckons he left Spotify screaming all day all night, man and that wouldn't be you know what it was? It was massive loss. I recommend him watching. I was watching mate. You're watching mastic
class, how much like, how much bandwidth do you have? It's real high res stuff.
I mean, there's something with the newspaper thing. Would you call it old fashioned the newspaper? Man. It's his old fashion. It's old fashioned. I actually I was when I was a. So I did the tele health thing
last night. So first, it was all about the whole experience. So as I mentioned just yesterday, Brady's fucking worried that I'm terminally ill or something, just because I've been sick for a week, and she's like, you got to, you know, get sorted. Do it just for me. someone calling? I'm like, I don't want to create any pain for you based on my sickness. I will do whatever. I need to do. Appreciate that. Yeah. And so she said, Okay, well, I'm booking with like, will book you in with telehealth, she did it for me, which is very nice. Done like admin. But I understand I probably should be looking after those things.
Don't have a Medicare card yet still on the family Medicare card have to get mom to send a photo every time. And then my Medicare did tell me that I was on that for many many years. 30 years should be the sort of full stop of this. Yeah, I like that idea. Actually the other thing I'll say just very quickly, Vic road sent me like average Joe, is I think it's every three every quarter or something because like our the cars the like, full stack films business car, I was thinking, we got like 280 bucks or whatever. I was like, Fuck, I can't really use the car at the moment. Do you think it's a gronk move to call up and guys guys COVID can't fucking use the car.
What to do with the roads or do I just pay? They won't? They won't. They will do it. Okay, absolutely not. Anyway, so back to the the doctor. So I was expecting some sort of zoom cut like tele health. It sounds fancy. I feel like I'm going to be on this zoom call and all this sort of interactive thing where it will be able to, you know if I can work everything out.
And I looked at my brace and sent me a calendar invite. I'm like, Hey, babe, where's the? Where's the link to connect? And she goes, Oh, no, they'll just call you. Okay? So they're just going to call me on the phone or whatever. And so I waited. I get a call from from a doctor hadn't seen him before. And he was asking what was wrong? And braid. Braid was a heavy guy, because at one point, you said, I'm not a doctor.
Because he was saying, oh, like his urine. He asked a question. That would be something around like, do you think like it could be tonsillitis? Like it was something like that? I'm not I'm not a doctor. I don't know. There's not a great response to a doctor. Yeah, I'm not but usually it's a caveat around. I am thinking, look, Dr. Bart well, so that's the whole thing. I know. I went the other way, man.
I'm not a doctor. That's why I'm calling you. Like, that's why I'm on the phone with you. And so anyway, is that well, it's hard to hard to work out anything on the phone. Fuck yeah, it is, is that look
I'm not even joking. He said,
I can fax, I can send a fax to pharmacist and you can get any biotics and I said and this is a time where I'm like even though I'm no doctor
and I've probably just watched too many documentaries but should not Should I not be careful about you know, how much antibiotics you know, you don't want to take antibiotics if I don't actually have an infection. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, no, yeah, it goes you know, we have been criticised for for giving out antibiotics just sort of willy nilly understand. Yes. And then I said how about
have to take a photo of my throat like because
The thing is he's saying like, I've got big glands like my God, I've got my right sides. Like he's like, Is it the size of a golf ball? I think it's fucking hard to like. No. Like, it might be like, it's hard to tell like, I'm like, I can feel the surface of it. But it's like, I can't feel the whole I can't grab the whole thing. Yeah, and so anyway, I said, Can I take a photo of my throat? And then you can just see if it does look like tonsillitis. Or if I don't know what fucking tonsillitis is, but like is it inflamed or whatever?
he said no cold call me old fashioned, but
not I don't think I want to do that.
What does that mean? What does that mean? He that's like, that's what was so bizarre about it. Because I might be mean like, you know,
if you're going to a doctor, you don't want to go to a fucking sovereign Hill but you want to go to like I don't want a doctor is something like he's a meanie.
Good in a doctor that is old fashioned like what is it only been old fashion because he couldn't receive he wouldn't know how to receive
a photo of you i think that i think that it was a little bit sort of a bit prudish a bit like I cut me off that well I'm not gonna I don't want to look at you if I can throw it on my back that's a vibe that I got so anyway I was like a bit so it then and the funny thing is is like Was there anything else?
I think that I may it Bri must have put in a few things that were wrong with me. Yeah, I was like he's like Isaiah anything else and then bracing next me as I was anything else. Brace I kept bloody nice. You play outs plating.
I was like it was really disrupt when you're in a doctor's appointment and you have someone I literally said I said, Sorry, my girlfriend's just coaching me on the side here. I've also got a bloody nose.
And so where we're at ended up was
he said isn't it boring people talking about their health stuff but I will finish the story The he just said okay well on Friday the pathologist is there so if I still have a booked in an appointment and so they'll fucking take blood and do all this sort of thing because I did say that was the other thing so when he said a bit old fashioned and so I just said are so I just sort of
wait here and die then you said yeah, I said that
he's got another white here and die there he goes. I don't think that will happen. I said, Well, my girlfriend thinks I've got cans.
That's a great fucking mom and Bree talking back in hyperbolic and so but the thing like yes, it was very annoying. And so I don't even know I don't know if I want to go to an old fashioned doctor. I want someone that's fucking gets me on an aura ring and is checking my fucking you know, connection to my
smartwatch quick finger up the BAM see what's going on.
That's all about fashion. Yeah, he wouldn't even go He didn't even want to throw picc line a finger in the pump. Yeah, or just like they use haemorrhoids?
I did. I think his parents stall. Okay, I've been collecting photos on my ship last six weeks.
Or I'm just eating beetroot. Do you know my brother lived with a guy who kept I don't have bloody faces by the way. Still, he's kept he's still in the in the freezer in a box on that psychopath because he needed to collect them. No, he liked them for some kind of medical thing. Well, he must have been sending them off. She didn't bags.
Enough it was talking she has to mention mention experiencing that shit might have just made a smoothie and the frozen bananas.
He's a real brand. I thought that when you put him in the freezer that guy's right.
we had a telehealth appointment for Bodhi
and I opened with our wall the the Google doctors at daycare have told us that
I think that there is the bit where I'm like, low status. So at the beginning, very low status. I'm not a doctor. And then by the end when he says fucking old fashioned sort of thing, I'm just like, look if you weren't going to meet me with such a silly comment around like just being old fashioned. I wonder I wish I knew I should have asked What do you mean? What does? What does that mean? old fashion? Send me your throat. I'll tell you what's wrong. Like Derek and D sound old? Yeah, he's an old
The Old English guy. Okay, okay. Yeah, I mean, there'll be a lot of people struggling with that sort of over the phone rather, like you're in the realise after probably doing it for that long that you're relying so much on sort of face to face or the whole thing. I think we did it. I think we think that I think we think that a doctor who's had all this
you know, all these years of studying is some sort of great communicator. But I've had sort of doctors that are stoic that don't say much they're like, like think about the facts going and then you get the other side which is
super caring, like very thoughtful you know, catering like but that's human skill. That's a skill set for that's what communicating with another human but it shows how communication can be the difference between working out if someone has a disease or not like bright that's what like Bree was fucking using stats you're saying are Gino like, at the moment like fucking
Breast Cancer like it's like down at the moment my pit there just like you hear those stories right of doctors like yeah, I went to the doctor and they said I've just got a cold and now I'm fucking about to die like you do heat but I'm not a what's it called when you really worried about hopping? choleric? Yeah, I'm not a happy like, if anything, I'm the opposite where it's like,
I know. I know this is gonna work out. I know, like, I've got a big, you know, vitamin C, I've been drinking, you know, orange juice. I'll be good. Yeah, I mean, that's why I mean, he's gone. Did he suggest a blood test? Yeah. Well, I think that's why I think that I worried him. I think that I sort of created this fear because he's like, we can swab you we can do all that sort of thing. Yeah, well, blood test just actually tells you if you have an infection in your body. It's easiest way. Otherwise people are guessing, really worth doing with. But yeah, the telehealth thing is is a unique a unique experience.
So I mentioned I mentioned yesterday about David Blaine.
Oh, is he alive? So David Blaine, so straight after we did the episode, I went on to YouTube to make sure that I sort of was already in raring to go. And it was him
in I think it looked like sort of the Grand Canyon sort of Arizona, Arizona way. And it's just him say hi, the the new date is September two. And so anyway,
I'm just reading a variety headline here. David Blaine postpones helium balloon flight YouTube Live Stream relocate Stan from New York City's Arizona. Okay, so he's moved it based on weather. I didn't actually well was imagined to be in New York. But yeah, so David Blaine mixed his plan to float over the Hudson River from New Jersey to New York City strapped to a bunch of helium balloons, blaming
logistical challenges. Instead, the magician and performer will attempt to perform the stand, which is being bankrolled by YouTube as an original live streaming special. More than 2000 miles away in Arizona.
Wow. And I'm glad it's going good. So it's tonight. I mean, this isn't no The problem is tomorrow, tomorrow. Yeah. With the Australian Mario's died. So yeah, he said early morning their time. Yeah, he goes so contingent on the weather in Arizona, his stump will lift off either September one or two at 6am. Pacific time. Everything is wind dependent. He said encouraging fans to set a reminder on YouTube on the YouTube Live Stream page. So it's 3:50pm on the first of September in Arizona currently,
at this moment, so already happening tomorrow, so be 12. So what time did I say was it six 6am? I think six Yes. 6am.
So tomorrow's office 3pm yeah yet in 12 hours yeah it's gonna be nighttime again still for you. Yeah like yeah yeah definitely I'd love to do that you stay out yet something to fucking do
call me I'll veteran this something to do you agree
it is something to look forward to simply just putting the calendar like to like let's definitely like I haven't been on discord for a while
it actually popped up on my desktop and I saw
Jake from down the road was saying that he was worried about a something Something About Mary incident with your genes based on your not wearing undies
and then I just remembered that that was one of the funniest moments in a film is so he zips he zips he's not into the James and then
My favourite bit is they cut to an ambulance and it's just a paramedic saying we have a bleeder and
it's very funny. That was a lawn that was starting around. Yeah, we've got a blade we have a blade. I have also clipped media can in me in my zip. Oh no Jew to no underwear. It happens. It happens it's a part of the game and call me on fashion. That's just part of the deal do part of the deal of the deal
of a raw deal, isn't it?
It's definitely raw. That's for sure.
You may have seen on the daily talk show Instagram jasha no yet is still on there he back on just to do it less but no, I've been. I think I mentioned it on the weekend. I had someone reach out about something that was sort of important. And I was like, Yeah, I need to just be looking at my DMS a little bit.
Okay, you're getting important shit in there. Yeah. What's What's going on?
On the day are just like client so just how you just got this project? That's right. Yeah. My don't say that Instagram doesn't pay off. Exactly. Yeah, all those hours. I was like fuck that would have been if I hadn't written back. It wouldn't have happened. Yeah. Really? Well, I think that it would have been very much though.
Okay, no, no good. Yeah, what if I'm all for it but no. You have seen the video I made a video of Bodie, myself and Amy doing a bear hunt around the house. So we've we've teamed up with legacy Melvin legacy for the legacy Bay hunt. And this is cute. And so I was saying I was waiting on the package and I was waiting for my birthday present turned out your birthday present and fucking we've got so many packages. Me still waiting on five packages. So because we're moving house, so she's buying on the ship. Anyway, said she saw the new couch in the video. Is that true? Yes. Yes. She loved the couch.
Love it. It's actually really good. It's a great father. I haven't found it yet. It's a fact as your butcher, what's the Can you call it? Like, just as a like, I think it's a good quote. Where'd you get it from again? My lounge I asked you, you told me I told Amy she made the purchase. I forgot. If you want to get closer to God, if you're looking You and I are the ones that actually shared the links. We haven't forgot we are the second brain somehow. I forgot. But no, I think that yeah, if you're interested in a really good couch, Pete Shepard told gronk who's on Hump Day replay. He has that couch. Does he know Why did you tell him or did you get it off paid? No. So no, we we got it. Awesome. Isn't it funny when something's a good product, it just sort of moves around. So it went from
our friend Musa and she she had it and then when Pete moved into his new place
I was looking for a couch and he was asking about the count the count the couch we had at the time and break said, here's the couch that's even better. And it's like very like how easy was the delivery? It's over one box. just whack on the legs just screaming done. That's what I lock about. I don't want to have to do shit. I don't have to do more than just scroll on some some legs. And so we there's definitely a bit of a couch club. forming of everyone having this couch. It's called the marine is the name of the couch. I feel like it's from lounge lovers or something. It's under a grand Yeah, good value. I think it was Yeah, eight or 900 bucks Yeah. Which seems quite good for it's it's dubbed as the three Seder. And so yeah, we're very happy with that and I did feature in this latest video, but I just want to say go and look at the video
in the video explains how
they can just get if you want to see the catch, but also if you
Want to get behind a great charity? So Melbourne legacy they're supporting hasn't worked. So they're supporting families who have been impacted by somebody who's served in, say the army, or you know, the Air Force in Australia and they're connecting those families with organisations that support them because it's like, it's not just the person who serves that's impacted. And so it's actually the whole family inside this organisation. Melvin legacy does that and so we've got behind them and we've, and they're doing this legacy Bay hunt, which is so these bears are so fucking cute. But he took one to the coffee shop with us and was showing the guy they're really looking at their real like real, like nice, nice quality beds. I went upstairs last night, and this is I don't have them here. They're in Brody's bed he went on he had them in his bed sleeping with so cute I could get it like any the whole bear hunt thing like watching bodybuilders. Get out Get around like what he was feeling bad. I found it. I was
Like, man, I would be like that, like I would it would be nice. I'm looking forward to a time where we can go somewhere. I'm imagining, like, remind me of like easter egg hunts. Like I like the like, we need to do an Easter one year where we go somewhere. Regional that's bigger. That's got a bunch of green greenery and stuff. Yeah, so we can hide eggs. And I can fucking elbow bodiam head for like the last egg like I'm pumped, right? Just follow me. It's an old school game.
Tonight, he's an addict. So yesterday, he was wild and I and I said to my neighbour, I walked into their place because he fucking he runs into the house goes under the neath the garage door like rolls under like he's fucking Tom Cruise from Mission Impossible. And then next minute, he's at the back of the joint. So so not on, very rude. Sometimes he even goes into the drawer and takes food on absolute animal and so I say
I'm so sorry. He's just he's being very very naughty at the moment and he's being an absolute is this Michelle jobs play? So nine and this is next next So anyway, I said yeah, he's been really naughty lately and he's struggling, he said, but she said, but he's he or is it your, you know, ability to handle it? It wasn't in that that way, but it was it would know it was a lightbulb moment because it's like, he's actually he hasn't changed it's it's your capacity to deal with that have kids? Well, she grew she grew up single mom with two twins. And so she knows about naughty boys. And so I was like, Man, that is some fucking it wasn't it was like, a moment where I was like, Oh my god, that is so true. It's it's not doing anything different. It's all no but it is it what do you do? How do you take it so you're not don't just feel guilty? Now do you feel guilty? Oh,
Like, so true because it's just, you know, sometimes you can't deal shit, you know that I can't deal with this right now. It's like that, that in itself is explaining that there are some times where you can deal with it. But right now it's not one of those fucking times. And so that is just the classic case of parenting works with Bodie, like if you want to settling down if he's absolutely crazy, what do you do?
Oh, my, there's, there's many things like, but there's not one go to humans do they need to they need to, I mean, obviously, I'm not a parent. But if they've been naughty, he's got the step. He sits on the step. And he has to call it down, even if he's losing the plot. And so sometimes that works, or there's getting it so it's very what's what's going on what is the same and so he could be taken out he could be, you could take him for a walk. He can take him for a drive you get this and so you have a bunch in your arsenal.
It's never as simple as like, what's this one thing he knows that he has to cool down the step is when he's naughty knows that so you're gonna build routines around you know things like timeout if you smack if you do if you
been naughty or you know taking chocolate What are your parents think of the the way that you like discipline like I could imagine parents looking at their kids and being like, Can I do it this way or that way your mom and dad hands on in that regard.
The problem is Josh, they fucking end up being little angels for grandparents. And so they are legit different like if wave buddy's not with us. And he's with mom and dad. He's a different kid, does it? And you know what? It's like, you know, the right you have everyone has a weird relationship with their parents where it's, it's so unique. And so kids, when they're young, they play up, they act up for their parents. And then the babysitter comes over and they're a little angel. And the baby says like a hi such a sweetie. And he likes
but in that though, in that you get the absolute beautiful moments of him waking up this morning and coming in coming like he's in bed and he's just like, comes over and kisses me on the face and he says kiss for you daddy hug and then he goes over to mommy's kiss for you mommy and a cuddle. Like and that's the shit that you just did pays off. That's the right you were amongst the yesterday and today you seem different. So what
are what did like what what? What's the trigger for that thing? It's everything man sugar tightness may be hungry, hasn't exercised enough hasn't got out and about like this. The thing is, it's like you try and think about your mood. And what and
I mean, you don't even have a handle of trying to sort of, you know, like you think about eating practices that could be fun like with a little skipping rope.
Yeah, so I mean the last five minutes This is the thing you need to be doing, constantly having shit to do. And so, like how could you get the fuck out of him? I can't you just make the you know like, like metal dog or whatever you just fucking like make it run it like you know what you're gonna do this for 10 minutes we're gonna go to the but you're also you're also happy to just lock a dog in a room and not really care about it from that dock and wouldn't have dog does not do that. Well if you've got you could put a dog in a lounge in a in a backyard
backyard and it just
there's a there's a difference between a dog and a chart and a human being. And as much as someone's not so so if you've got a dog I'm sure you love it. But you also don't fucking feed you. Your foot your dog drive. Yeah, baby dried food actually. Yes, I do. Some of the ship Bodie. He definitely looks like right away.
Actually, it's ending very much similar to a dog
I don't want that. Yeah, the
but JJ what you're saying is what's the thing to do? Doesn't matter what you think to do is like the top like so for instance, like if it's so
easy those and this is like it this is more just me being curious rather than fucking ban like I had a parent because I like to call me old fashioned burner
no but I just I wonder what the
I wonder what like obviously there's not one single thing that works but so for instance you sang about the he's great with your parents, but then it can be a little fuck with you guys like how do you how do you get it so that he's like he is with these parents, with your parents with you or is that just impossible? I just think think about yourself in your relationship with your parents. how unique is it? But I think but isn't it so much of it.
isn't so much the way that kids respond and react based on how the parent is operating. So if the parent is so there's, there's so there's It's so late because there's the, the relationship that kid has with the parents, it's the parents with the kid. It's the, it's the hours on end that you have to spend with your child that creates a different relationship. It's the body doesn't see grandparents every day. I'm sure Bodie would probably start playing up if he was around mom and dad 24 seven, like that's the thing. It's, it is a unique and and humans are constantly fluctuating in emotions. Like I feel, I feel at the moment that I have in a long time and and that has to play into that's not just because of Bodie. You know, and so he said they had a case does it mean that so like, I wonder if you are a super chill
person or you know, like the parents that are just like, really sort of calm and collected all the time. Like, do you think they know
But is that is that like a?
Like is the is there notice? Is there not a story like there can be difficulties and all that sort of thing with being apparent. But is there not like another story that can be told? Which is
like, I don't know, it doesn't have to be absolutely chaotic, or do you think that like, that's what I'm saying? It's It is never it's, it's like getting a negative comment and a million fucking positive ones, the negative ones impact and so there's moments in a day, like yesterday, we had amazing time in the afternoon like, he was wild and we went for a drive and he had a sleep and then we got out of the car, and we walked along the river, and he just it was it was fucking magic. And so as much as I talk about some of the hard times because they are
Hot, easy times, you don't work for you don't have to work in those moments. What you need to do in those moments is savour them because they're not.
They don't last forever. And so nor do the hard times as well, they don't last forever, but they definitely feel more taxing on your emotions in your body, then then the good times. And so we had this match, let me just talk about the magical afternoon. We're down by the river, and he took his shoes off and he's just sitting in that sort of little rocks and we're watching this beautiful stream go by there was kookaburras and he's talking to some people that were sitting on the seat, and it was just magic. He was playing with this little colourful bug, trying to put rocks on it and suffocated but I was like, do you make Do you? And I just sat there just sniffing some fresh fresh air and was fuckin asked, and I took it. I took an amazing photo of him and I was like, This is
This is chalk and cheese, beautiful photo of him just playing, rubbing his hands in the dirt. And then the next photo is him.
You know bierbaum taking a piece
that is like a bowtie jacket just sitting there playing like an angel next minute just pissing on the tree.
I mean the thing I think we I mean, the thing with parenting, in some regards, is it's like, because it's the one thing that you get like you're always told, like, never fucking like, don't tell people how to parent right? Don't tell people don't you don't know what it's like or even like other parents, right? Like you as a parent, don't fucking tell another person how to parent is there is there not potentially a missed opportunity missed opportunity in growth and development in trying to like, figure out these things or to like listen or to
do you know what I mean? Like I just I I just I feel like it you know, but what
Ingo What do you What's the angle though? Because if one thing you know for sure is that there's going to be tough times and so I know you go to what are the tools? What are the things you can do? What do you know that work? It's not about remembering tough it's not about removing tough times. I think like it just I feel like it's how do you create a Edie create mechanisms so that
a kid who's not feeling great or is playing up? Doesn't fuck up? You're like, I know it's impossible for it not to impact you know, but the thing you had it that's the thing in your day doesn't need. I know this. Okay. This is advice to myself though, that it's that sometimes he does the same thing. And I respond differently. And so, it is totally about checking yourself. When your partner's in a bit of a funk. Does that mean that you need to fucking be a piece of shit? It's like sometimes you just need to
Feel it for them and and be stronger or be in it with them or you know, so there's that's the thing and it's just hard plus sleep deprivation, deprivation and all these things and life's pressures that a child doesn't have to think about. You know, have you found aha moments as a parent where you've
realised something that you were doing before or, or you've changed something and it's made a massive difference?
Oh, I mean, any of them have been things for me though, like the meditation like you just the not drinking like that sort of irritability that I reckon I'm just much shorter if I'm drinking I can so they're,
they're not these gradual aha moments that are like cementing understanding of something. It's like I say, I say that's what that's what's happening here.
But it is like, think about being in
Few reiated and then just
sitting in that like, Oh my god, this is I'm fucking I'm fucking infuriated right now like, there's not many like it is challenging like it's so easy to just sit in it and fucking cry because it's that it's that painful and you like crying is easier and better than getting angry like it because angry isn't helping Bodie Yeah, and so you know, there's I mean, we're we're struggling at the moment just and it's interesting because things are going well, but things are going well for us things are going well for the business you know, going to drive new place like so much to be grateful for, but you can still feel fucking out of control. Like a lot of parents do.
I know Shannon Shannon, who listens and messaged me and she's struggling term I could fuck it's like, her stuff is it's it is what parents go through is
Very similar, like you're all feeling, it's like wow, we ask, the experience of parenting is very similar for a lot. And so then you get angels that are just like, you know, but I'm sure they'll come back and bite you on the bum when you're when they're, like not it's not necessarily like, a lot of it is it's like why do people feel the need to give feedback or what why do people want like, say oh, this is how you should do it or what about this or what about that? Yeah, what do you think that comes from? Yeah.
I think there's from the outside looking in, it is very easy to see a fix. It's like advice is the most easy thing to give when you're not fucking feeling the emotion of being your own child. And so when you see and I do the same if I'm looking at someone, I could say this is what I do right now. Yeah, that is that is easy there's nothing there's there's nothing hard about that the because you've got clarity the ship you don't have emotion. Like Yeah, like no
The interesting thing like it's like mate, like, I always feel great when I fuckin do the washing and get all these things done, like the things that people tell me that I should do get on an exercise, but like, there is a reason why these are common. Yeah, I didn't meditate or like because they actually work. No, exactly. But that's where the, the lack of consideration being, that at that moment, someone giving you feedback about how to parent is not taking into consideration or not being empathetic with that kid probably being with you, since they've woken up, and it's 10 hours since I have been to sleep. And so all those other hours, so yes, you've got the answer. And yes, I think that you saying to make sure that you reinforce the thing that you just said you're going to discipline them with, but then they do it and you don't Yes, that's fucking true. Of course it is. But that doesn't take into consideration just
You being at a 1% in your tank
and so many other things like so what happens with like community parent or like,
like community responsibility when it comes to or like extended family or things like that Don't you think that there should be some level of buy in for the people around children beyond their parents? I do I that's definitely I'm not saying if you're
in your family you get shouldn't say anything because it's not your kid. I don't believe that.
It is just about being sensitive about how you approach these things. So
it's, you know, you don't like a piece of advice that you probably know you should be fucking taking in the moment. And it's no like, it is like it's not like I guess people would say, it's not your business. Like it like yeah, it's not your it's not your problem to per se it's not your business.
Notice it's judgmental. It's all these sorts of things. But then I also I think about it from the perspective of how you and I approach many things, I think that the uniqueness in what we do is like, we're talking about everything like we like from a business perspective, how we're gonna, like we're constantly strategizing. And so it's, it's interesting. Having a close friend who's has a kid who you have these conversations with or whatever minutes, it feels like potentially the parent journey seems like a lonely one. Like it seems like there's a lot of Yeah, identity and pride and all of these sorts of things like and stoicism and we're doing it our way or and this isn't even stuff that you've said I just feel like this is the common concept like this is the perspective Yeah, for most when it comes to parenting. Yeah, hundred percent but i don't i don't think it's necessarily may seem like that, but I don't
know if parents across the border are being stoked because they're not taking advice on it's everything from it's all that what I was talking to of. Maybe the thing it's like when I try and fix these problems when she tells me a problem, maybe what they need in that moment is a fucking hand on the back end saying, I Yo, okay.
Yeah, I mean, is it better a reason to cry on the show?
I mean, yeah, the I mean
yeah, you it it's it's so fucking emotional. Being a parent is so fucking emotional. Like it's think about feel like when you're a kid how, how much you feel stuff like, it instantly connects you back to to be a kid.
Like, yeah, it's not i'm not smacking
Added Oh, but it's it's amazing how it does get your emotions going.
And what do you what do you think you like what's the action? What is the emotion then?
I don't know, it's it's a it's a weird one because I'm not crying at it being sad at all.
it's like when you get if someone was to say like, say to you, you know, I've become emotional as a parent, it's like, I don't know, maybe taps you into something that you feel a bit more, and you're a bit more vulnerable. And so because
being a parent there is you're open to
you're open to so many more things that could go wrong, like the consideration of a child being sick or the birth not going right like these are fucking things that you confront when you realise that your wife's pregnant. And and that's confronting because I'm not I don't want to fucking confront that but then I and then I don't have much option.
But too, and so yeah, it's it's, it's fucking tough. It's tough.
And like is that do you feel the pressure to be doing the right thing?
Or like I don't want to do I think it's the pressure to do the right thing by the child you want the best for. You want the best for the child. And so then it's like, that's when I think you probably feel when you haven't done the right thing as in, you've reacted, when, you know, that hasn't been what needed to have happened in that moment. Whether it be you know, yelled or, or, you know,
put in the room and close the Rockies. You can't fucking handle it anymore. But it's And so yeah, that's where the guilt and all that shit happens and, and it's just it's tough times at the moment. Where do you think it changes from having a three year old versus having a teenager? Do you have any sense of a difference?
I think it's literally just, it you resetting it, like, I don't think maybe it gets easier. But I think about myself as a kid teenager
the shit I got up to, you know, the fucking people who didn't make it out, like, from the teenagers that I was, you know that my mates and so that's where it's like oh god I can't you you wouldn't you you'd want to pull the pin if you fucking really delved into all the different stages and what it's going to bring and so
really you have to be ignorant to what's ahead even though you know that it is head but take for now what it is and try and do your best. If it is such an emotional personal thing. And then you have the realisation that you're parenting with someone else. How did how does that how does that mesh How do you personally those personal
Emotions which are connected to childhood.
How do they meet?
I think there's, there can be friction. It's like two people having different money stories.
I don't care about debt, you know, I'll go into and I'm not saying that's me, but like, you know, and then the other person, but I do love
the shows rather than
if we can find
but and then the other person's like anti debt doesn't want it wants to have, make sure they've got the savings got the buckets in order, you know, the Barefoot strategy, that's gonna cause friction. So I don't think it's as clear cut as probably a money story. But definitely the parenting thing. With a partner there's, there's what you're saying about external parenting from people looking in. You do that with your own partner, you're like my I would be doing that differently. And then that's not fucking true.
activated but also there's something in the like with if you look at how we say business, and how you have
revenue lead lag all of these like metrics and goal setting and all of this sort of stuff.
And then you have the, the lifestyle culture like there's I think there's a lot of similarities in some regards, because it's like, maybe sometimes that feedback. It's like someone who's running a culture based business getting told, giddy, you know, having specific questions or thoughts or advice based on how to increase revenue. Does that make sense?
like that like the, like, it feels like the
there's the obvious, right, so there's the obvious which is like, I can you watch Supernanny. And you remember Supernanny? unacceptable, unacceptable, unacceptable, and so with me
There's okay you need, you need all of this structure and you need to be doing this thing and you need to be fact like, and then you have the reality of creating a good experience for a child like, is that a good experience versus going out and just being free, free spirited and, and all that sort of thing?
Yeah, it's massive responsibility. Because then then you think about how you reflect on your childhood, and the approach that was taken, or the thought in your childhood and not really understanding what approach was taken. I don't think I feel like I know what approach was taken by my parents other than they fucking loved me and they would do anything. And they cared about what I wanted and what I wanted. When I was thinking,
do you feel like you'd sorry, we're trying to recreate what your parents did for you. I guess like most like one of the ways or it's like
I guess you're doing a bit of a hybrid where you will definitely Yeah. I mean one thing that's pretty fucking spot on is
loving environment child understanding how much they mean to you and and that that they're loved and and being there for them and making them feel safe like all these core needs so there's ticking the boxes there because not everyone nails that
and so nailing nailing some of those which build you know the fundamentals of
of of the human you know experience and plus the other stuff like understanding boundaries and all this stuff like
yeah it yeah this there's so much going on in that guy. Yeah, I think like it's definitely worth talking about because I think that like you're not alone. I think that even people without the challenges of having
Kids are struggling. Yeah. And so then you add, you know, a few human bodies that I can lead to be looked after and cared for like I can imagine it's extremely tough. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, I'll be fending Bodie off for meeting my birthday cake that I mean,
I had one slice last night. It was small. I did Amy Maggie. She made it. She's about how did he make it? When did she make it? Did you say you're making it? My mother's a super superheroes when she can be a mother. Do a bunch of work. And fucking make a double decker rocky road cake for a 32nd birthday dinner. It reminded me like there's I'm not gonna be able to find a bit. I think it was Rugrats. Oh yeah. In Rugrats there was like a scene with like a chocolate cake. Like cartoons have a really good way of life.
Creating a cake that you just want to eat and type its cake. And unfortunately every like, it's just all parents have made regret
to their kids.
I mean, the thing, it's a
bit like, I think that the friction is it's like it's not coming from a judgmental place either when, when people are like, I think, from an empathetic perspective, I see I see both. I see why. advice is the worst thing in a lot of ways. And it just triggers and it doesn't help. And then you see, you and I have seen how we we do that with our own partners where it's like, we want to help and it's like are we see when you see the obvious that feels like a fuck I need to need to show I need to say something or maybe I could help or whatever it is. And so I think that that's an interesting challenge.
But other people was like, Oh no, well, that's not your like, that's not your job. I don't even think it's necessarily about interesting thing is it's not even coaching like you look at like Michael bungay stanier, where it's like, you know, the advice monster don't do advice or whatever. But I don't even think necessarily that there is a place at the moment for conversations if I was to ask questions around, like to try and get to that point. It's like, I don't think that that's the answer either. Yeah, it's it's delicate. And most likely the time that you feel like you want to give a piece of advice is probably at a highly emotional moment. Because that's when advice comes to your head. When you're in a scenario where she is like, I see the problem this is clear as day to me because maybe this time also we don't give like I think that our default is shut up. Don't give advice. And so there's normally a trigger point, saying if your friend struggle or scent like yeah, whatever
Used to be like, oh, maybe like maybe this or that and that's the same thing with you with like food with me. It's like it's so tempting when you see someone being like, man I want to fuckin I want to get ripped since I met you had to burritos for dinner just to do that. But it but you can't.
Yeah, but there is a point where it's like you've recognised it's like I actually like that.
saying the burrito thing isn't actually going to move you closer to being ripped like as Josh knows that he doesn't like so it's that whole thing of everyone knows the obvious everyone knows what they need to do.
Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah, we know we know what to do, but we don't do what we know. Let's it's a classic, classic line.
Love you. Love you guys. Love you, Josh. Catch you guys. Have a good one. Enjoy.