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Michael Bungay Stanier

Michael Bungay Stanier

Author & thought leader

2 episodesDec 2019 — Mar 2020

About Michael

Michael Bungay Stanier - Author & thought leader

Michael is the world's number one thought leader in coaching, regularly delivering keynotes at Leadership, HR and Learning & Development conferences around the world.

Michael is also the author of several books, including The Coaching Habit and Do More Great Work, and his work has been featured in Business Insider, Forbes and The Huffington Post.

Michael's coaching philosophy focuses on being less advice-driven and being more curiosity led.

Michael's new book: https://www.theadvicetrap.com

Box of Crayons: https://boxofcrayons.com

In Michael’s words

Verbatim from the transcripts — each quote links to the moment.

“I would say there are questions I find myself wanting to ask more. So one of the questions I would ask is, what do I know to be true?”
Ep 649▶ 5:15
“You've got to focus on the critical few and not get seduced into the trivial many.”
Ep 649▶ 5:15
“As soon as you notice you're in a funk, you're already pulling yourself out of the funk.”
Ep 649▶ 15:23
“A trouble shared is a trouble halved, I think is the saying.”
Ep 649▶ 18:38
“You can't be responsible for emotional states of other people. You can— your job is to control what you can control.”
Ep 649▶ 20:58
“The most important thing is the thing most easily forgotten.”
Ep 649▶ 33:11
“You can only put so much lipstick on a pig.”
Ep 649▶ 35:37
“It's actually self-belief. If you think you are creative, You are creative. If you think you are not creative, you are not creative.”
Ep 649▶ 37:00

Michael’s advice on the show

How do you decide what to focus on when everything feels urgent during a crisis?

Ask yourself 'what's the most important thing to focus on?' and resist the urge to chase every problem; focus on the critical few rather than the trivial many.

How can I combat feelings of isolation while physically distancing?

Recognize that physical isolation doesn't require social isolation; proactively reach out and build connection through your 'weak ties' network, becoming the host or connector who gathers people together (e.g., via regular Zoom hangouts).

How do I pull myself out of a negative emotional spiral or funk?

First notice and name the feeling (using core emotions mad/sad/glad/ashamed/afraid), use physical movement or stretching to shift mood, build in small gratitude rituals, and avoid 'double time' self-criticism for feeling bad in the first place.

Am I responsible for how other people feel?

You cannot control other people's emotional states, only your own behavior and how you show up; set personal boundaries to protect yourself from others' negativity rather than trying to manage their moods.

How do I show up as a thought leader or leader without seeming tone-deaf or self-serving during a crisis?

Walk the line between acknowledging real pain/anxiety and holding space for optimism and possibility; avoid both doom-mongering and toxic positivity, and check that your public content is genuinely serving others rather than self-promotion.

How should I approach a product or book launch during a crisis?

Treat the launch as a start line rather than a finish line by committing to a long-term (e.g. 12-month) marketing effort, define an early 'win' condition so you can celebrate regardless of short-term results, and experiment with creative campaign ideas rather than relying only on launch-week hype.

Stories Michael told

Explaining real self-isolation to his parents

Ep 649▶ 0:44

Stanier describes an email exchange with his parents who misunderstood self-isolation, planning picnics and school drop-offs, requiring him to clarify what proper isolation meant.

Ainslie's gratitude check-in during divorce co-parenting

Ep 649▶ 18:38

Stanier shares how his work partner Ainslie, a divorced parent, found something to celebrate (getting her daughter back and going for a run) during their daily 4:40pm gratitude check-in.

CEO laying off a third of her workforce

Ep 649▶ 18:38

Stanier recounts a participant in his Cocktails and Questions call who, as CEO of a $20 million company, had laid off 20 people that day and relied on human connection for resilience.

Mean TEDx comments

Ep 649▶ 20:58

Stanier describes receiving mocking comments on his newly released TEDx talk, including jokes about his tight pants and needing a comb, and how he chose not to let them affect him.

Oblique Strategies card pulled live on the show

Ep 649▶ 32:06

Stanier pulls a physical Brian Eno Oblique Strategies card live during the recording and uses the prompt ('the most important thing is the thing most easily forgotten') to improvise a new book marketing campaign idea called 'Chapter 2'.

Getting a Freehand Gum Tree Tattoo

Ep 535▶ 0:00

Michael describes a years-long process to find a tattoo artist willing to design an Australian gum tree tattoo, only for the artist to abandon the agreed design mid-session and freehand something different, which Stanier decided to love regardless.

Questions these interviews answer

Drawn from the episode transcripts.

How should leaders balance giving advice versus coaching during a crisis?

Michael Bungay Stanier explains that crises trigger a craving for certainty, making directive advice feel good even if it's wrong; citing Dan Goleman's six leadership styles, he argues great leaders mix clarity/direction with curiosity rather than relying on just one or two styles.

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How did Michael Bungay Stanier approach launching his book The Advice Trap during the COVID-19 crisis?

He treated the launch as a 'start line not a finish line,' committing to a 12-month marketing experiment, declaring an early 'win' regardless of bestseller status, and using Brian Eno's Oblique Strategies cards to generate creative marketing ideas like a 'Chapter 2' video campaign.

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What is the "Advice Monster" and how do you overcome it?

Michael Bungay Stanier describes the Advice Monster as the urge to jump in with answers the moment someone starts talking. He suggests pausing and asking a few more questions first — like "what's the real challenge here for you?" and "and what else?" — before offering advice, which often makes the advice better and less necessary.

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When Michael came up

Mentioned on 31 episodes Michaelwasn’t on.

A listener email cited an episode featuring him as changing how she approaches her clients.

Referenced as someone the hosts did a workshop with, where Josh was coached on stage.

Referenced regarding a past workshop about identifying challenges.

Author/creator of 'MBS questions' coaching framework that Josh used to coach Mason before his meeting.

Tommy references his 'advice monster' concept from coaching literature while discussing unsolicited advice.

Josh references him in relation to improving his listening and not interrupting.

Past guest who sent the hosts a handwritten thank-you note, read aloud on air.

Author of The Coaching Habit, referenced for his favourite coaching question used to close the Brad Blanks segment.

Author of the book club pick 'The Advice Trap'.

Author of The Advice Trap, the book club pick.

Named (as 'Bungay-Sanyal') in a joking reference about coaching-style questions.

Josh references Michael Bungay Stanier's advice-giving concepts while discussing how to talk about the crisis without being preachy.

Episodes with Michael

Every episode featuring Michael Bungay Stanier on The Daily Talk Show.