#294 – Tommy’s Been Exploited/
- March 1, 2019
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show we discuss:
Our Fat Fridays sugar meltdown
The new face of consent with Ryan Jon
Who owns the content you make when you’re an employee
Ryan’s new internship
Working for free
A squeegee cult update
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Happy Friday, everyone. Happy Friday, fat Fridays. The Daily Talk Show Episode 294. We're trying to pick ourselves back up because we will poked out before we consume the food that we have today. I'm about to have a meltdown.
You're going to sweat a lot through these episodes of sugar, sugar and juice meltdown. But I feel like I've gotten better as I've gotten older at recognizing that. Things like sugar, things start to happen. My eyes start twitching. Yeah. Well, I did say talk about a friend of mine who has made I don't know this person personally. But they've only just realized that they get irritable and really annoyed and everyone around them knows that they just haven't gone to take a pee. Yeah, the toilet one. So we've just smashed a whole heap of burgers and donuts and thick shakes from Baldwin can take the video if like if you're listening to this, go to our youtube youtube channel, the daily talk show because at the start of it is the debauchery that when the montage might not even looked at much like we were laughing today about how if you laid out everything that was in these thick shakes, you wouldn't need it. You wouldn't you'd be like there's way too much food for one person but you put it in a you using the the orange juice sort of example. Well, yeah, how many how I think there's one bottle that you can get this bet 16 to 20 oranges. It sounds like a bit of a marketing. Marketing speak though. Does oranges and every
well I think
yeah, that it could be readable. How old were you before you realize that rhiwbina
isn't actually a fruit? I see. I didn't even know what it was. I always just thought it was a sweet drink. I mean, it's I thought it was the fruit. Okay, what is it? Seven? What is it? In rhiwbina? Right baby is you ever know what that is? kid?
Blackberry, BlackBerry, Blackberry. Yeah.
But it's not right brain effort. Just brand new. I made a video which was not some of my greatest work, because it makes people look like idiots which I'm against that kind of content now, but I did make it and I will own it. We make ourselves look like idiots.
I'm making up for a broke. I was in the Napa Valley in California, just outside of San Francisco. And we were going and doing a winery tour. And so for a one man What a fucking rod This was you had said that you're doing? You know you're abroad broadcast? No, I said we've got an online TV show. And sorry, that was just your phone going off is a nightmare. Keep it on silent. Yeah, I'm just hanging up. That was me. Love you. Anyways, it
was about me touching. Cuz I gotta make a call soon. And so I'm going to read a message. And I've got lots of things happening. I'm trying to tell my nap. Time that Tommy has been in charge of making a phone call. Malcolm, take your phone on silent, dude. I need to tell I need it out myself as in ourselves. So we told this guy that we had an online TV show, which essentially we were just videoing making videos and putting them out. So it was online. And it was of TV nature. And so you rocked up with I point and shoot little cameras. Yeah, this lovely guy took us around the Napa Valley. And he got his free accommodation. He took us to some lovely vineyards and wineries. And so what this one is one place. I was asking the American lady. So she's not Australian Robin is an Australian drink I think. I think it's it was very big throughout our childhood. And that's what I thought. And so I was asking this woman on camera. Do you guys have rhiwbina? Like, pretending it's the wines, you know? And I said, Yeah, it's really dark. It's red. It's so and then she was like so serious about it.
That's how it might be a different blend. We might not have it over here. We it. It did exactly what I wanted to do. In the moment. I remember I did something similar when I was 11 at sovereign Hill. Oh, yeah. Would you do? I was asking I was 12 actually. And I was asking the pharmacist if they had condoms. I've got the I can put the video I'll you've got video video of it. Okay, so I was 2022 I would have been 13 would have been 13 when you're on the right. I mean, that's more acceptable the pranking at that age. I said, Do you have extra small condoms, but it's sort of a little bit as a I guess a 13 year old. It's a little bit i thought was very funny. I'd only just the year before I discovered what condoms were. I love this. I love that it makes you look better. Let's see. That is the beauty of it. Because I don't think that's a troll on the mine was not great. But you can watch the video. It's still on YouTube. So can you explain to people why you're sort of semi panicked with your phone now I'm not semi panicked and fully panic. I'm fully,
fully panic. So Ryan, john, who's been a guest on fat Friday episode is our Western Australian correspondent. He works on the radio station over there. One of the big ones, he's a big deal. He's on billboards and shit. And he messaged me last night. And he said to me, I think you're being exploited by someone and it needs to be brought to your attention. And I was like, I've always taken a leave out of your book where if I say to you if I hook or I say something that's sort of like, I'll tell you soon you have a break? Absolutely not just tell me now
which I I can't
not a fucking radio show. Just you know. Yeah. Well, teasing. Yes. So we're gonna call him Yeah, we're gonna call him just gonna see what he's going so Ryan's in wi This is FaceTime audio if you're wondering.
gonna never told you that my life is I did just trying to be he's trying to act because he's worried that shits about to go down. How I
I'm very well away. Yeah,
absolutely happening. Welcome to the show. No, producer, nowhere else. This is straight. Rules. Yeah.
So I was just saying how you can't do that to a blog. You can't say someone's been exploiting you and not. And say, I'll tell you in a few weeks when I'm in Melbourne. Yeah,
dog. What's, what's going on?
Alright, so there's a bit of backstory, I guess. But you guys are both involved in this. So remember, when Carl and Jackie had like a few misdemeanors back in the day? Yes. And because of this, that everyone including both of you, we had to do all that like compliance training and testing and stuff but you guys don't have to do that when you're in
the right whole Australian radio network over here you've you've got to sit through these these boring tests and shit to basically make sure that you don't fuck around on air and and get them sued heavily. And so yeah, I remember that. Yeah,
and sorry, this week is like compliance week. So the whole company is going through all this stuff. Because college debt yard did this thing and they're like the company and now let's stop doing all the paperwork. Still five years later. Yeah. But one of the categories is about consent. Right? Like do listeners have consent being on that? By the way, considering your colon table straight up on there on you might have a tablet big maybe
speak to the board? always got that week coming up? Yeah,
one of the things is like ongoing content, which means like, if you film someone to stop the comment, just use that footage to something else. Yeah. For example, if you guys are number one on the podcast shots, and there's a photo of you guys, like popping champagne bottles and celebrating Yeah, that's cool. But then, if Cardinal palace black released from prison and the headline black car blue pills then celebrate and they use the photo of you guys celebrating but you can't do that. Right. So the face of consent the FDA in 2019, because I did the training this morning is Tommy Jackie,
Tommy, face of consent.
Did he ever been described as that but I think that is a brilliant
thing is I got fucking wrapped up with Cardinal Pelle in the
video. And now here's what happens when it's consent. And a whole video is like clips of Tommy in the radio studio, and Tommy doing your stuff on the street. And I thought to myself, the irony, the Tommy jacket give consent, be the face of consent in 2019 or the 29 days writing.
I feel like Tommy has done many things in his life for like words vouchers and stuff like that
like what I will say is I was I was implanted contract, I was employed by them at the time that I was in Shepperton? Is there actual footage that you know of that is outside of my time working at that network?
I'm not sure about that. You'll have to check that again. My concern is this ongoing concern. My name is Kate, Kate using the same thing for different
uncomfortable TJ with being positioned as the consent guy. Yeah, I mean, it's better than the herpes guy. There's worse. Yeah, definitely. But no, I have not given my ongoing consent. I worked for them for little money. And I would like to be managed, managed monetary reward. Okay, can you do the speaking for him, Ryan?
So what was the actual? What was the footage of what was Tommy actually doing? And was it like voiceover or something?
nicer? Tommy in the studio? I guess you would describe it as like a lot of payroll. Yes. So there's a voiceover binding like, consensus, very important. And so I'm hearing that as I'm seeing Tommy be a dickhead in the studio around and there's a few videos on the street, when you and Chef It is like I know, if you take the hot or something,
or the pizza hot stuff hang on your channel. Yeah.
You would have you would have leverage that you would have done a Christian home, you've been doing the cross your mind content? No. I think if I if I shot something, you might I mean, Ryan, you're you're the perpetrator of create a perpetrator.
Right. I mean, I've already mentioned capital
pellet now. But you make content outside of work hours and then use it in
on the facebook, facebook pages of these businesses. What is what's the deal there? Like? Are you giving them your permission to then ongoing Lee post? Or use that?
Well, that's actually a different argument altogether, because they don't share any of my stuff anymore, because they were an audio company. So that
that makes total sense,
they don't they're moving backwards. And we find them because Ryan still probably in contract on until tomorrow.
So, Ryan, do you know if you can? So I was actually wondering, I think that when you're employed by a company, I'm sure a lot of the the rules around it. Like if you create stuff within their space or using their tools, it's automatically their IP and stuff. You are an entrepreneur slash entrepreneur, that sort of mix of doing stuff outside of work? Have you had to have that conversation where it's like, ah, I won't use the studio time, I won't use the geek because I don't want you guys to own this, or what's the deal?
Not not in a really serious manner, but it has sort of popped up a few times over the years, it is such a gray area, because like you said, there in writing, it says, from you know, January one last year to December 31, this up or to the contract, wait on every single thing you might now they don't, they don't often, like enforce it. But I would like if if they had to I guess they would if they had to sort of protect themselves. And I think that's a murky area. And that's a big reason why a lot of people are moving away from right here, because they like, look like you're a young youtuber you like, Look, I'd love to do a radio show. But I also want to make some videos. And like, that's a big reason why a lot of young people don't radio because they're very controlling and protective, which should be the other way around. They should be they should want to watch it again. Yeah,
so I nearly signed a contract. Years and years ago, before, just after I left shipping. It was for like a talent manager. And it was of a similar nature where it's like, I'm tied to them. So it'd be like any, if you somehow created some product outside
those want a bit of
cash, which is absolutely fucking ridiculous. Moving away from that, I guess part of it is there's been some success stories in Australia where radio personalities have done really well. And the radio stations don't own any of the IP. So I guess it's like, what do you think? What business? Do you think Ryan at the radio stations in then if it's not owning the the content that's got you in it? Do you think there's a distinction?
Well, I think of it this way, if they don't want to make their radio station full of champions, then they're gonna have stations full of losers. Yeah, there's that whole argument of what if we try enough and make our stock really successful? And they leave? And I'm always like, what if you don't do those things? And they say, yeah, and the reality is, is if I, you know, when I get fired from my job, they'll probably, they'll probably replace me with some guy who got famous on his own social media. So it's probably my best interest to get fired, go to work elsewhere, and then come back into
this podcast audio is to consent
from clients, that I've broken so much, in the last eight minutes.
What is the what's the plans on the podcast? Are you at
the moment I'm just suffering and how much I can talk about the stuff we're talking about right here? Yes.
With my podcast, actually muffin break this week, I've applied for a job if you guys
haven't seen the house off? I think I'd mentioned that. I don't know if I spoke to you. Did you see that muffin thing? Right? I pressed a comment. And I spent five minutes thinking about what I'd write. But then I then I decided not to say I was going to comment on my engagement. Well, for people who don't don't know, the CEO of muffin breakers come out and said, Millennials are lazy facts. And she hasn't had a knock on the door for someone wanting to work for free for five years. Yeah. It's quite layered. And I came from thinking of a business owner. And but then you can take it the opposite direction and look at a big corporation or a big franchise like this in a woman in this position of power. And your stance. Ryan was one that you like, we're not they're not lazy. What What did you say?
Because you caught hot on it? Well, yeah, they were really upset that we were unwilling to work for Right. Which I mean, you talk about, they say we're entitled, and it's so strange to say feels he's entitled to free labor. Yeah. So the one thing to keep in mind is, if it is work experience, you need to be giving them an experience. And if you're smart, if you're an academic doing law, science, engineering, medicine, you know, you're you're not going to go to math and break. And if you're not the academic type, if you're kind of somebody prepared to get their hands dirty more of a workout, then mining companies and construction companies that having apprentices and cadets, you know, paying them hundreds of thousands of dollars. So why would you go there's
nothing to do with the pill being lazy and everything to do with the reason I was knocking on the door is because you're the faculty of muffin break. Yeah, but
the recipe unless I know what's in those fucking muffins if they're going to give me that secret. Yeah, I mean, the younger generation has never been more prime to earn $50 plus an hour, as in like that they're expecting 100% I'd like to people I've spoken to have within this industry made your industry leasehold to no experience and expect to be paid for it, which is outrageous. And I'm not expecting labor for free. But it is like there is a place to start. I think people have lost work ethic. There is a big problem with people not having jobs when they're young. But I think there's a difference to Ryan's point. It's the work experience. But I think that the the idea that you need that the only way to get paid for your time is through financial financial means is the bit that's a bit fucked up. Because thing is we've done this show for over a year, we've done it every single you know, weekday, and we haven't made anything from it. And we we believe that this is something worth investing time in. What do you think the balances the rhyme with the working for free with the idea that you are gaining a huge amount of experience? Yeah,
well, I agree that there needs to be an exchange and that does not have to be money, sorry, the exchange use your time for your learning skills, then that's great. But um, I mean, we're not all going into the muffin business. And most generation gets painted kind of bad. But like you guys is a prime example. You don't earn much or anything from the podcast, but you're still doing it. Mr. 97 ways not hooking up with everyone from shameless blockading. They're just rubbing shoulders this April and like to think that, you know, way this year away, everyone's like, Oh, go hustle, go work hard. And everyone is then be like, all those guys are lazy. Don't do anything. I mean, it just doesn't work. How much stuff have we done for not getting paid?
Mr. 97 is the prime example in the US he's listening to your own? Hey, gang, Ryan.
Versus University, whatever. Don't find someone who's the hero and just be there for a year and you'll learn a hand. I want to tell us that we know we're lazy with people like you turn up every day, just to get experience and rub shoulders with people you respect. I mean, it just doesn't make sense. Well, Mr. 97, ditched a marketing or business degree? And, and he sent me an email and in the title, was the word free? Is it I mean, this perfect email for my friend break?
Break as well. I just answered first, because I'm desperate. But that was it. What's your learning from thinking from that? Like, if you to understand the investment, like your dad was even thinking, what are you doing? Yeah, yeah,
well, a lot of a lot of people were really confused as to what I was doing. But I think, I don't think it's actually like, no one's
more confused than him.
It's, it's not, it's not communicated enough that if you actually go and get the practical experience, it's going to be more worthwhile. And I think
all all of all of the opportunities that I've had since on it, like being around you guys, and with the podcast, meeting people, all of that's like way more invaluable than spending money on a degree that's trying to, I don't know, like, make me smarter in business. Whereas if I just like, work here and start doing practical stuff, and meeting up with people and developing an actual network and PayPal every time you sign out with PayPal, I just think of dining. Yeah,
I think, yeah, what one thing that I've sort of figured out is, it's all sort of like a people's game and being in touch and knowing the right people, and learning from the right people is definitely
the way to go. Ryan, did you do any sort of free work at the beginning of your career?
Well, yeah, I am. I did work in accounting and finance. And so I didn't hate to, like summer internship with big companies and, and doing crappy jobs at a bank just so I had a bank on my resume, and stuff. But I also used to be, and it's a bit different, but it's sort of the same idea. athletes, right? And you never get paid when you're a teenager to go to training. But the reality is, is the more time you go to training, the better you get, and the more likely you are to get money later
what sports specializing.
I played volleyball, so I played, I had went to the US on a scholarship and then I played all over the world for Ed, that's hard to believe now because I'm six foot tall and have a dad bought fetishism store. And this is brown. Yeah. But when you think of experience, you go, Well, do you want to hire a guy with a volleyball degree? Or do you want a guy who's played 300 games and is really experienced in those ways doing? Yeah, and it's sort of similar in my book, Mr. 97, shows we're having a serious conversation and calling you
series combos, you can just say 97
bit experience and also in credit, good portfolio is probably better than what's written on a resume. So anyway, that's what I told them up and breaking up have applied to work with them for free. I've offered to be their social media intern. Yeah. I said you don't need to give me any money. But I just want to learn and get some guidance and support on how to be the best social media intern I can be. And that is yet to be responded to
any requests they've had for free work since since the since the there's there's actually laws against taking free labor, there has to be some exchange. We're talking to Eric, yesterday, who lives in Virginia, and I think their minimum wage is around 750 an hour there. And we are I think in Australia lucky that you can
I think things are a little bit more sort of evened out in, in, in the country so that if you are actually adding to society that you can fucking afford to rent a place and to you know, buy groceries and do all those things. And then if you go over New York, and it's the same low wage, but everything's exorbitant as you are our web correspondent Ryan who is traditionally expensive, right? Yeah, direct what how much he's like a coffee. Difference between Melbourne and wi
what has eased off as has the mining burned in the last two years, but you can still need to get a coffee for under five bucks is a pretty good find. pretty rare to find a coffee for less than $5 or maybe like a feel for CPE if it's a good one, but I mean you can still get a lot to raise something in Melbourne Rhonda the rock flight
711 still the
711 off off into video.
And then by radio so we did this experiment that shows if you get a $2 Coffee it's only the same amount of the $1 Coffee the next day I get these ads that I have to read out promoting 711 coffee
that is so funny. Yeah. And you'll be in the training video in the next coming years. Exactly how to be how to be client friendly.
Module seven dirt bag out your
What they might be 711 but I'd much prefer to go to get a beautiful bagel from five and five and dime I can't fuck this credit that five time bagels Have you been to five and dime bagels Ryan when you come to Melbourne?
No But I'm back in a few weeks it is a pay no pay for the day.
Sort of this is a safer hopefully pay in bagel say we have to go there with you writer on the shows that you like physically next to it. What I wanted to clear up is on Wednesday when we had Jason Foxy I had described that the bacon or the bagel was like a Chipotle a maple bacon bacon Maple I can't remember which way to be clear the that's the cream cheese yes is the Chipotle a maple bacon bacon Maple my Yeah. Either one of the AAA bacon Maple maple bacon
maple bacon so that is the cream cheese so then you would change up to the senior cycle to be and everything but Ryan I was confused as confused as this when I went in there now because
I have no idea what's going on right now but it does sound like a lot of work that I enjoy but I don't understand what Yeah,
I just don't know why I did go in there you know how it's near inviter isn't it? Yeah. You sent me there to get some catering Yeah, I freaked out I was like just pointing at things and like Yes, yes. And then I brought back and it was like at the end of the day and I felt like I did a really bad job at picking what could have been an amazing bag of experience at Ryan Have you ever said anything on air that's gotten you free shoes
Yeah, but it's usually it's not like I've got the free shit and snuck it on air like I have talked about stuff and then the next day you know a company all we heard what you said he's a package like that happens a fair bit which I don't know how that's legal because in theory you either getting rewarded for shouting out company
is paid yes pay for say you can't be doing this shit but
you know just like food and like if you mentioned a cafe in the next day there's like a box of muffins. We heard you talk about from the radio
muffin break was really missed the point
usually the free stuff that is like I said accidental or indirect is usually like you get sent little snack stuff and then even TV shows and that if you see this stuff on Instagram but when I know married at first started dancing with the stars like the big TV networks
yeah little gift pack or something and enjoy dancing with the stars tonight. Here's some popcorn
Well, I would I would never watch
you have access to the pre releases of the the shows. What do you get access to?
Yes, I were sort of make the Channel Nine and I do like a segment on Channel Nine. You know those kind of talking heads that are hot public taught things. Yeah. And and so we've got login for Channel Nine. So we're we're pretty far ahead and married at first sight. Having said that, we have been a male thing like all we've had to re edit tonight's episode. Yeah.
Like are you going to talk about it on the show? Or like just make sure that we add a bit you're talking about? Yeah,
Tracy didn't get punched by Kelvin.
It'd be a huge exclusive for the shameless goes. You should slide into the DMZ and let them know he's changing. Yeah, I could be the secret you could be like the XR x. Oh, yeah.
I've got to begin ego to be a secret.
Secret Ryan just to be clear. It is the bacon mate. I'm not actually
bacon maple and bacon with Chipotle bacon a Poli jam is how it's described on the Good Food website so it wasn't like Yeah, but fight five and I'm bagels. Thank you Ryan and we'll have we'll have bagels together when you're in Melbourne in time. Looking forward to it we can have a desk set up for you as well if you do find that you are suddenly unemployed to some sort of podcast guest appearance and if you if you do it either way can you please take some screenshots or take a little video of the of me being the face of content?
Well, I'll try to but as you can probably remember the only way for me to do that is to do that training again and the training is so painful
like you would be the last put like if you would have been kicking and screaming doing it we one of the last people to do it. I remember getting notified saying hi this is the final warning if you don't do it now you can't go to all the differences. Ryan's the talent you are just the web
it's due tomorrow and like I said I'm going through it today
but to be fair, I the boss looked across the office and was like there's going to be a bit of a dick about this black it's usually make though I Ryan's within ourselves, but he's always the one at the pain in the ass. But I think
Todd probably get that rap yet. Classic TV.
Bro. Have a good night. Enjoy that at what temperature is it in wi right now just out of curiosity.
It is 30 the
face out soon. Thanks for having me on by.
Oh my I'm burning up with this your headphones.
That is so funny though. The face of
before we finish, let's get to an email that we got. We mentioned this yesterday. The squeegee kheiron. cult, we opened it up, we took in the squeegee count we we took in the first five. And one of these. We don't want to explain too much. But the first one get a key ring and on that key ring is a small squeegee. So to be clear, we were speaking to screw to Derek yesterday. Yes. And he said that what he imagined a squeegee to be he'd actually associated the wrong thing in his mind. Which is quite funny. Because if you actually know what was what was done with the squeegee, he was thinking of a plunger.
You know, like I
could tell you anyway, we got to this week, we got to it was we found the first five we've got their email, their mailing address, and we and we got an email from Dylan who is from Toronto. He's a we're gonna call him from now on three day deal three day deal printer deal. And he's just sent us a new email because he offered ages ago to basically design this squeegee and have it in a program that then allows us to get it 3d printed anywhere in the world basically CAD sort of design and and there was one job that we had which was we needed to mock it up and sell it to him We fucked it. He's got an impatient and said you know what? I'm going to take matters into my own hands. I'm going to creative direct the whole fucking thing. Yeah. And three day deal. Well, he said I'll I'll design it for you then I'll give you the file, mate. He said in capitals. I bought a 3d printer. He said so if you guys still wanted to pursue the squeegee idea, I'm your guy. Maybe there's a trip down to Australia to hand them off in person. When they're done. Love
it luvvies. I can
think good, good price flight to the moment from a Canada Yeah, I did a few doodles based off based off the initial inspiration I got, but I'm going to keep doing some work on them and try some test 3d prints for you guys. This is so cool. I will show you a few of these sketches that he sent through Mr. 97 is going to put them up right now describe them over people. So this is this is pick one. He has decided to do a few different custom ones. This one is showing you that there's different night like different layers on the little squeegee so one is Yeah, JJ one's TJ one's Mr. 97 and the other one which is this is the one we'll give away to our five and then open up to the 20 t dt so the daily talk show I mean right now these look fucking sick there. I actually love things in that sort of design stage of seeing them when I get a logo down or whatever. It feels more legit if they've gotten if they've gotten a visual diarrhea. Yeah, and they've used any sort of pens or pencils Dylan you are good with the hand like write a deal. Yeah, three day deal. So this one is just again another angle you're seeing more of the actual squeegee itself. And then this last one, you're seeing it on the key ring. This is amazing. And so it's a nice solid hole to put the keyring through Yeah, I mean this is out now. These these will be 3d printed this is so thanks three to do from Canada yet. It Canada do have flights from Melbourne to Vancouver return we are officially pumped man we really pumped to see these. Yeah, it's gonna be grind. We'll get them out. Well, I mean, you print yourself one. He can he can. I would love if I'm a three day deal. I'd love for you to come to Melbourne to deliver them obviously. Yeah. That'd be seek. Yeah. Canada. We can have some bagels together. Yeah, yeah, maybe? Yeah. Five and Dime little, maybe in response to pull a ball in Cantonese where we went. Today in Melbourne. It's full on. Yeah, it's full. Yeah, if you want.
I'm sweating more than normal. Yeah. If you want to sort of be high on life and sugar and all those sorts of things. It's a naughty thing. You would definitely we saw some kids in school uniforms going? Yeah. Teenagers Yeah. Which is something I probably would have done more often than not just like got into shit food. You didn't think about it back then. Now I
didn't think about it. Yeah,
it was because was a bit of a chubby kid. I the daily talk show.com if you want to send us an email 90 serves just quickly before we go yeah, we go into the weekend some data update.
what's what's what's sort of happening? Yeah,
still in the process of planning the next one.
That's not any any sort of learnings or anything else that you can sort of bring up about everything.
you were overwhelmed today, bro. Let's be honest. Like the amount of messages you've got. you're overwhelmed. Yeah. And I brought you down to earth with a story that just
highlighted some perspective.
Anytime Tommy has the opportunity of flexing his previous No, I'm just making an app that I just liked it but there is you stressing about a few messages and I gave you real life out out in the wilderness example. Yeah, you Good night. You're doing so well. I'm looking forward to Monday though an update of how you a good was we do seriously we love your emails and we try and get them onto the show as regularly as possible. So high the daily talk show.com if you've ever thought about sending us an email, seriously the amount of people who are listening versus a mailing there's a huge I'm not someone who writes emails to shows
shows for years What do you never reached out? You create a video about them or something? No, I wouldn't do I actually there was a there was a guy who made a video when I was younger called Have you seen Josh Janssen he made a whole video about me when I was doing Melbourne cake. Let's go I tried to find it. You took it down on Vimeo maybe I can ask or if you don't want to my email, make a video. Then maybe email you or you say it would feature youtube.com forward slash the daily talk show as well. We put up every single video as the full episode on there. On Monday, I said we'll have a good one. We will Yeah, we will sell you see Amanda bye