#961 – Pokémon Cards & McDonald’s Monopoly Fraud/
- February 17, 2021
We chat about our trips to France, how GB wants a motorbike, the price of Pokémon Cards, and Binge documentaries Josh has watched recently!
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show, we discuss:
- France Facts & Tidbits
- GB wants a motorbike
- Pokémon Cards
- McDonald’s Monopoly Fraud
- Class Action Park
- Binge/Apple Subscription Hacks
- Daniel Pink Masterclass
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Tommy Jackett: [00:00:00] Very low barrier to get into the ground squat.
Josh Janssen: [00:00:07] We're committed to do the daily talk show for 10 years. I had guys put
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:11] it in the calendar.
Josh Janssen: [00:00:12] Just like to check the temperature in the room.
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:14] I told you my squeegee story.
Josh Janssen: [00:00:19] It's the daily talk show episode 961.
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:24] And we're back in, locked down, but hopefully only for another 14 hours.
Josh Janssen: [00:00:30] Uh, yeah, I'm very well, thank you. Another, uh, French fact, even though, uh, last time it wasn't really a factor. It was just saying deja VU. Uh, but to June know that in France, uh, they have now, uh, made it legal for you to eat your lunch.
At your desk when I'm working, was that
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:54] illegal? It was no go well. I mean, there's actually nothing. I don't mind that law
Josh Janssen: [00:01:02] because like working general. So you have to go, I was reading, reading an article. So now I'm an expert, but you have to go to a bistro with, uh, your colleagues to go and have, have lunch, and it can be a two to three course meal.
Tommy Jackett: [00:01:17] What do you, what do you mean? What do you mean? You have to.
Josh Janssen: [00:01:22] Well, I shouldn't have to, no, it's not like that's what, that's what happens, Charlotte. Our French listener can, can, um, confirm via email that that's how it works, all canceled,
Tommy Jackett: [00:01:35] um, will statements. And so, I mean, th th the problem with, I guess, it's up to the person, they shouldn't be enforced on anybody, what they do for their lunch break.
Um, but there is something about. As much as I agree with myself on that statement, I also probably think that taking the time to actually disconnect is a good thing, but it is up to the individual and how they work because it might work for them. I mean, you just
Josh Janssen: [00:02:04] don't want to be. As this legislation was sort of being spoken about.
Uh, French media have been, um, doing articles where they'll put photos of sad people in front of their desk, like eating a sandwich, like, um, there's a lot of people who. Don't like the idea, but it's due to COVID they're trying to, you know, make sense.
Tommy Jackett: [00:02:27] Yes, exactly. Less getting out to get vitamin day. All of that stuff.
No, I mean, it is a real thing. When I was in France, a parasite, I was blown away breadsticks on the ground, fucking residue of croissants everywhere. No joke. Like it sounds stupid, but, um, w I mean, I'm walking path. I've got video. I'm like baguette. It's a fucking baguette stick and we were in France. This isn't the best we got to France.
When we got to Paris, Amy was really sick. She was still pregnant or she was pregnant and still, still pregnant. Still pregnant. Yeah. Yeah. She's still, she's now pregnant 21 weeks. Um, but she was only like six or seven weeks when we got to France and, and, um, it was just like, A struggle, but I asked Siri where's the best croissants in Paris.
And it told us this joint and we walk there and by God, they were the best croissants I'd had got, got a four for a six pack. Went to the, um, the, the real tourist thing to do. I went to the Eiffel tower. It was closed, walked across the road and down to the, you know, the river and, um, and sat and ate croissants and drank juice while, um, planes flew and made their sort of jet trails above the Eiffel tower.
It was. It was fucking beautiful.
Josh Janssen: [00:03:56] It was I've I've done the whole tourist thing. I actually bought crepes under the Eiffel tower, 20 five-year-olds
Tommy Jackett: [00:04:04] and one Bitcoin H it was 20, 60 K for Cripe.
Josh Janssen: [00:04:11] Yeah. There's I mean, there's, it's very well tuned to tourists. Like you get people with clipboards trying to get cash out of you.
It's pretty, um, Dirty full on when you go underneath the
Tommy Jackett: [00:04:23] Eiffel tower. We, we got in a cab once we got the croissants and I, and we said, um, and we said Eiffel tower and the garden, the French cab driver, what, like, he was so confused. Um, and then there's another name for it. What's the other, what's the other name for the Eiffel tower?
Uh, Try some kind of insight, but we ended up, Amy said the other name for it and he was still confused, like, but I was like, imagine not knowing. I mean, maybe it was just like these, these idiots, I'm going to take them for a bit of a ride, but we ended up getting there, but we were really blown away because I don't think, I mean, this
Josh Janssen: [00:05:07] is Charlotte LA Dame differ.
Tommy Jackett: [00:05:11] Yeah. Yeah, we, yeah. Anyway, we got there, we got there. It's just like, how about the biggest fucking thing in the sky? Take us there. And so we got there, but the worst bit was we got there and the soccer was on the night before. And so underneath the Eiffel tower was closed. Um, I mean it's a bit
Josh Janssen: [00:05:31] annoying.
Maybe that's why he was saying it because it was closed.
Tommy Jackett: [00:05:35] Yeah. I mean, have you ever traveled somewhere? It will probably happen back in the day before you can look at online, see if something's open, but traveled somewhere and it's closed
Josh Janssen: [00:05:46] like a vent. I think that that's very popular at the moment with all the COVID stuff.
You don't know, what's open. What's closed. Yeah. There'll definitely be a heap of examples. I feel like the classics, uh, Museums only being okay, just sitting here camera, not happy with the lighting. Um, I'm
Tommy Jackett: [00:06:05] sick of this.
Josh Janssen: [00:06:07] Yeah, I am too. I mean, you've gone real PVE, but um, we'll allow it. I mean, this, this shows you the power of lighting, I'm you, we're both using the same types of webcam.
Uh don't you think that my shot looks quite nice with just natural lights as a window using a window.
Tommy Jackett: [00:06:27] Yeah, I'm using window as well as natural light. Sorry. I'm using a light as well, light as well as the window. It's just, um, I'm in a dark room. You're in, you're in a, sort of a smaller, little controlled, maybe the laptop there is.
So I'm using an iMac and you're using your Mac book.
Josh Janssen: [00:06:49] Is there, I think it's your background. I think it's your background to being the blue. Like, I think it's a little harder to, well, I think it's harder for it to pick up the white balance and skin tones and all that. So anyway, um, yeah, we'll be back in the studio tomorrow.
Yes, we will be, uh, malls, like, I guess they're sort of the classics opening up at certain times. Um, but yeah, when I was in Thailand, I asked to go to a mall. He said it wasn't open. And then before you know, it you're at a gun range because that's how they scam you. They say, sorry, that's not open, but how about, uh, the elephant park and the gun range?
Tommy Jackett: [00:07:29] yeah.
Josh Janssen: [00:07:30] Exotic Josh,
Tommy Jackett: [00:07:32] what can I write anything there? I can hide. I'm speaking of writing, uh, speaking to George this morning and he said to me, Oh man, I'd love to get a motorbike. And I was like, Oh yeah. I mean, I'm just thinking that it doesn't, I mean, I love motorbikes. Yeah. I mean, I couldn't be more surprising you saying it to be honest, Josh, but George was surprising to me.
And then I said to him, if you get your license, he said, yeah, George has used full motorbike license. George could go out and buy a thousand CC motorbike. Um, Hey
Josh Janssen: [00:08:10] bizarre. And so what's the difference between a, a full and like a non full. The,
Tommy Jackett: [00:08:17] the, um, power of the bike. So if I went and got my license, I would have to wear a nice, cute little Fluro vest while I ride my motorbike.
Whereas George could rock out with these top off and on a Harley Davidson. That's too, you know? A thousand CC, just looking like a bikey with his most stash to get one though. How would you, how would you feel about George roll, rolling into the office with
Josh Janssen: [00:08:44] a motorbike? I think that's great. I think like it's, um, uh, yeah, if it's going to make his life easier, why not?
Walking walking is good though. Walking is, is nice, but I could imagine him on like a, um, like a really fun, like posty sort of bike, like, because he's only a few kilometers from the office. He could go for something a little bit. Novel. He could go for like a Vesper scooter.
Tommy Jackett: [00:09:12] Oh, well, he's got the license to drive any of them.
The posty bike thing though is tough because they are now expensive. Like they're collectors hipster. Cool. It's kind of like Pokemon cards, actually. Pokemon cards are worth more than that. Have you seen what's happening with Pokemon cards
Josh Janssen: [00:09:28] of saying that like people like Gary V and radio maleic I put them in the same category.
I getting right into it. Um, but yeah, what, what's the deal?
Tommy Jackett: [00:09:38] Well, there's probably the difference between people getting right into it and then people actually buying them because I don't know anyone that would be spending the types of money that you have to, to buy a box of Pokemon cards. They're about $300,000 for a box
Josh Janssen: [00:09:57] and they seem that they're probably specific boxes.
Tommy Jackett: [00:10:01] With like first edition, all unopened like 20 something years old, where someone has had the right head space at the time. I mean, this is a problem. It could have gone nowhere, but it is it's the same. It's the same as the Bitcoin thing. It's like I should have bought them when they were cheap. You should buy every, I
Josh Janssen: [00:10:23] think, but I think that there's a lot of people who have bought stuff when it was cheap that now just have a bunch of junk.
Tommy Jackett: [00:10:34] more, I think there would be a greater percentage of people who have thought something was going to be a winner and it, and it wasn't. I mean, my discord is a piece of property in a. In Colorado, Colorado owns a piece of property. I mean, sounds like he's probably a rich Aussie guy. You own the property in Colorado.
It's worth nothing. There's nothing on the land. It was promised to be a housing state, like it was going to be in Nevada or something, and then it never happened. Never ha.
Josh Janssen: [00:11:08] Um, I watched a, a there's a documentary series on being jive, have this sort of a two week free trial. So I'm bingeing,
Tommy Jackett: [00:11:16] sorry. Sorry.
Really already canceled. Cancel
Josh Janssen: [00:11:19] binge. Isn't that good? Where that dialed in? Uh, you, no, that's brace to me. Um, but, uh, but we spoke about it. I was like, Oh, we should cancel this when, when the trials up, but, um, No cause we're watching tiger the tiger Woodstock. I watched both parts. That was awesome. And what we were watching last night is all about the big fraud that happened with McDonald's monopoly in the U S it was a complete FBI investigation.
I would highly recommend it. If you just Google McDonald's monopoly documentary, you'll find it.
Tommy Jackett: [00:11:59] I mean, we broke the big fraud in Australia with the monopoly. We had some actors on the show and then peeled off the label and it said free, like you've won. Claim your prize, but then we, we entered in the details and it was like, um, you're now in the drawer, it was just like, it was misleading in what it said.
So tell me about what what's actually happened with the big frog
Josh Janssen: [00:12:24] we've also. Yeah. Um, uh, this was, uh, 2001 that it was discovered. And, uh, what they worked out was there were, uh, dozens, or, you know, at least five, six, seven people who had won the million dollars from the monopoly. And they're all connected in some way.
And, uh, and so yeah, they, they do a big deep dive into it. One of the interesting things without giving it away is they show how much dozing too. The printing of this type of thing. So what's like they creating, um, you know, it's under high levels of security, the printing thing that the people who were printing the monopoly, um, stuff, they also print all of the lotto tickets.
And so, um,
Tommy Jackett: [00:13:19] Is that because they're trying to get the same level of security as a lotto ticket. Yes,
Josh Janssen: [00:13:23] yes. Fitted monopoly. Yes. And so what I would do, it was things like, um, the, when they were doing a big prize print, so like say million dollars or, you know, not just, you know, free fries or whatever. Yeah.
There would be, um, heaps of people surrounding the printers when it was happening, then it would like go off to another location. The, they would like tape up the handle of the truck door. So they know that the, the truck door hasn't been opened when it arrives in a location, they, uh, they basically, uh, Uh, w what's the main interesting thing that they will do.
Things like Mark that would have, uh, specific marks on the million dollars. So like, um, for instance, one of the letters would be slightly scratched off. They would also have things that would only pick up on, um, like using like a blue light. And, um, and so what happens is when someone would win. Uh, they would send it in registered post in an envelope and they actually film the first time it gets opened.
It there's a camera that's filming it and they go through and show when they do the whole blue light thing and verify it. And so it's like, how could. This possibly be scammed and, and, and how could fraud take place? And it was the Jacksonville FBI squad that, uh, that worked it out. And it's very interesting.
Tommy Jackett: [00:15:02] 10 years trying to get into the FBI. And the first case you're working on is a McDonald's monopoly. It's
Josh Janssen: [00:15:09] quite big. But I think that that's exciting. So the thing was that the guy from the FBI was saying like, you know, we're working on boring, you know, healthcare fraud stuff. Like I see. Yeah. And so this is exciting.
They're like, um, uh, it even involved undercover operations, um, a potential
Tommy Jackett: [00:15:32] on shift.
Josh Janssen: [00:15:33] Yeah. And so they're trying to find who, uh, they just have one name and that's uncle Jerry. And so they're trying to work out who is uncle Jerry, and what's his involvement in, um, the, uh, McDonald's monopoly for fraud. So I would highly, I recommend it.
It's it's like eight episodes or something. We only watched two last night and we, I feel like we still have a long way to go.
Tommy Jackett: [00:15:58] It sounds more fun than the monopoly game itself like that investigation?
Josh Janssen: [00:16:03] Well, I think the monopoly game was more fun back in the day. I just think now that you have to download an iPhone app, it takes away.
Tommy Jackett: [00:16:12] Oh, that's right. They used to have it on the place mat that was in the food tray. And you can take that. So w w the, I mean, I've, um, I've, I've had, there's been enough fraud coming from myself to McDonald's over the years, not fraud, really, but stealing when, um, when we were young, we used to know a girl that worked at Mackers and she would take all of the.
Well, she would take, so people would hand in their winning Sunday or quarter pounder. And back in the day, they used to just slide them under the till you could see and people would just grab them. And so I remember she might just like flick a few hours away. Next minute, we've got, you know, six weeks of food free.
And so you've got all your little bits. That was, they were the day when more back then. You would actually win more.
Josh Janssen: [00:17:06] I wonder what time zone die? I feel like you were a time zone kid. Well, my
Tommy Jackett: [00:17:10] brother was, it was, I was still a bit young time zone is like a game center, just, you know, Oh,
Josh Janssen: [00:17:16] tons of fun. I think they cold now, but there's a couple of times.
Tommy Jackett: [00:17:21] you know, um, the, the, the, what's the what's the gun game. It looks like a, um, it was a real time. Uh, no. God, there was a game like blue guns. Anyway, there was a time zone. Yeah. Time zone had a, um, unlimited hour or two hours on a Saturday morning, but it was always not old enough. And my brother got to go.
That was upsetting. I really want it to
Josh Janssen: [00:17:51] not to, um, not to sort of harp on too much about binge, but another documentary we watched last night. It is your life. It is your life this week. I'm down. Yeah, it's cool. I think you'd get around it. It's called class action park. And, um, it is a boundary, I guess, let me guess.
Tommy Jackett: [00:18:13] Let me guess. It's a fun park where a class action suit is taking place based on the dangerous rides and the lack of, um, uh, safety that was in place at a fun park.
Josh Janssen: [00:18:26] Yeah. Well, I th I think if you watch the first 10 minutes, you get the joke, you don't need to watch the whole thing because they sort of just read it, right.
The whole thing, it's less about a specific case and more just, you know, they talk about the slide where, um, Uh, they, they sent a few people for the first time, like the guys grandkids or whatever. I got to have a go for the first time, like the guy who park yeah. Water slide and it would actually loop.
Right. So he'd go do a whole loop. And, um, the first time, like they got pretty badly sort of like, yeah, that they'll, they'll fine. And then they made. Changes to it. Um, which, which would help that situation if someone went through and they were just getting really nasty cuts. Anyway, they open up the slide and the cuts were from the teeth of the previous kid that went through.
But, um, I think you would think you would get around, read it yet. It's class action park. It came out last year. The documentaries subject is the American amusement park action park, which was located in Vernon township in New Jersey and was known for the popularity it had among locals and infamous for the poor safety record of the attractions located on the grounds.
Tommy Jackett: [00:19:58] Jeez. Yeah. And this episode is brought to you by binge. You can. I wish,
Josh Janssen: [00:20:04] I wish maybe they can give me more than my two week free trial. I've got a hack, but yeah, no, tell me,
Tommy Jackett: [00:20:12] Oh, I was going to text you last night to say, cause I saw it in your diary and I was going to say, Matt, can I have you beaten log-in but yeah, cause I don't want to wait.
I don't want to, so he's two weeks free, but you could have your credit Kat. Yes. The amount of times I'll fucking bought Stan, just doing the free
Josh Janssen: [00:20:30] they deserve. But, um, he's, he's, uh, he's a thing that a little hack that I learned. Um, a little while ago and it actually worked, uh, so say if you, um, there's an iPhone app and you want to sign up for their premium version, you know, it will say, Hey, sign up for premium.
Now just press this button. You press the button, you double tap on the side of your phone. They take your face ID and the trial begins before you're paying the premium yet. And you have to remember to turn it off at this time. Now, a little hack. Uh, you can actually see every promotion that that app is running or every purchase that's available.
So I'll tell you where I use this Speechify, which is an app that reads out things. So you've seen me go through a few of these apps before I haven't landed on one, but the idea is. When you still get rid of your emails. So the ID reason, my long emails, long emails annoying me. So I want to be able to, the main idea is that when I'm walking into work, I can have all my emails read to me.
And so I know exactly what's going on and then I can like write back. So I try not to a. They're very clever with the marketing. They've got a bunch of, uh, like young college kids to do like, Oh, this is how I like improve my grades. Um, they're like tic talks and they're like, download, Speechify get the Chrome app.
And then like, yeah, I'm smarter. I'm like, Oh, that sounds good. Exactly. And so, um, I, the problem is because I I'm trying to be better this year with subscriptions. And, um, at once I've got the, I mean the maple syrup is not a subscription and I haven't yet purchased, but, um, if there was mindful service, I would be around, it would be somewhere anyway, the, the, um, Rich forests.
Like they do a subscription, but it's just local. Um, but, uh, no, so yeah, I, so audible, I've been a subscriber of audible since 2010 or something like a long period of time. And I finally am like, you know what? I don't need an audible every single month because I'm just buying books that I don't necessarily need.
And so I said to her, I'm like, I'm actually going to get rid of my audible. I'm a, I'm a hero. So I got rid of that and she said, Oh, you love audible. You show sure. I'm like, yeah, that's fine. So I got rid of that. But then when Bray heard Speechify she's like, just, if you're doing this to like read books, just get audible back because there's a clear difference.
Even though they say an HD voice, it is still very robotic. Um, here's the hack, here's the hack. So. I am so Speechify, they will like it's $18 a month, which is very expensive, 18 goals a month. Um, and you have to pay for the year, like, and so it was $215 or something. It was a lot of money. And so I clicked through for the trial then.
If you go into your, uh, like, um, app account. So you click your little face, um, in your app account, you'll say purchases and you'll see subscriptions. If you click, uh, subscriptions, you will see all the different subscriptions you have that, uh, through your, um, your app store. So for instance, you might have.
New York times or whatever, YouTube premium, whatever it is. If you, if you click on those specific apps, it will then have a tick alongside what subscription you have. But what it also does is it reveals every subscription option available. And so Speechify whilst they were saying, Hey, get us for $215 a year.
I looked and they've got a subscription. That's exactly the same for $49 a year. Wow.
Tommy Jackett: [00:24:41] So, so I'm just, I'm just clicking into my Apple accounts into click on your face top. Right? Look at subscriptions. I've got one, which is the waking up God meditation app, Sam Harris. So right now I'm seeing premium subscription for one year, $139 and 99 cents down below, sorry, above that is a one year subscription.
Cold yearly subscription, $109 and 99 cents. Yeah, there you go. That's the same. So why they, why is that a thing? Why?
Josh Janssen: [00:25:17] Well, because the thing is that they have different sort of tiers for different things. So it might be country related. I don't know the specifics, my guess is it could be geographically related, but yeah.
So like there'll be running promos at different times. And so this is a way of just staying in the yes.
Tommy Jackett: [00:25:39] Wow. That is one of the best hacks that you've delivered. Can you please go to yours and just tell me how many you have? Because it looks like it's, it looks like I've entered three. If you've only got one, it kind of just takes your whole feed and you cut.
It just looks like I'm in it. It looks like I've clicked through to the waking up subscription area.
Josh Janssen: [00:26:00] what do you got? I don't have that many. I don't think I'm only
Tommy Jackett: [00:26:04] fans.
Josh Janssen: [00:26:05] We'll say a month. I'm sure. Only fans isn't on. No, no, no. Okay. Here we go. So subscriptions. So they might have ones that I don't have any more.
Let's have a look. So it's just loading standby. Okay. So Speechify which expires on the 18th of February. Cause I'm not getting up. Yeah, YouTube, uh, which is the 7th of March. Actually, let's say what I'm paying for YouTube.
Tommy Jackett: [00:26:33] So you can throw in, I'll give you your breakdown of YouTube. Yeah,
Josh Janssen: [00:26:36] no. So I'm, I'm paying 1999 a month for YouTube and that's the cheapest option.
There is a 1599, but that's for YouTube music only. So that's good. Binge two weeks renews on the 21st. So we'll stop that, uh, Apple one. Which is, um, Apple music and musical TV arcade, two terabytes of iCloud storage news plus, and their fitness plus app that's 39 95 a month. That's for the whole family.
They bring home, you know, uh, drafts drafts is two 99 a month, $2 99 a month. And that's just like for all my note, taking Disney plus is $8 and 99. A month, um, Blinkist. Is arc, and this is one more, I'm paying more than what I need to. I know he's blink. Um, Blinkist is an app that, um, sort of does book digests.
So it's like 15 minutes insights is how they describe it at one 19 a month. That's all right. A year, a year, a hundred NASA ducks masterclass a year, two 79. Masterclasses. Epic though. There's a great one at the moment. Great master class with that, Dan, uh, is Daniel pink. Who wrote the book drive and it's all about sort of, um, influence and selling and how to, so for instance, one thing around selling that he spoke about and the other one I've got is all trials and all trials is 29 99 a year.
Anyway. Yeah. Uh, this, uh, Dan pink, he does a, um, Uh, he spoke about people, uh, more, uh, uh, have a higher emotional response to losing something than they do to gaining something new. And so if you can frame something as something getting lost. Um, so for instance, if I said, um,
Tommy Jackett: [00:28:43] Sell it
Josh Janssen: [00:28:43] to me. Yeah. I'm trying to sell.
Tommy Jackett: [00:28:47] Let's say you're a, um, let's say you give me a scenario. All right. You're a salesperson for B binge and you need to get me to subscribe, uh, pipe.
Josh Janssen: [00:29:02] Okay. So yeah, what I'd probably say is, um, Hey look, uh, All of your friends, like, Hey, I'm contacting you because I just looked at your account and a lot of your contacts are using bench.
I just wanted to let you know that if people who don't have binge are more likely to lose their friends, because they have nothing to talk about. So what I'd recommend is you should at least have something. Because if you don't, you risk not having a conversation and there's no reason for them to hang out with you.
Tommy Jackett: [00:29:43] All right. Is that good? I'll sign that. Yeah, I've signed up. So I'm gonna, I've got, I can't relate them to any of my mates and I'll lose my friends if I don't sign up
Josh Janssen: [00:29:52] for bids. Yeah. Do you want one more? No, that's all I've got. That's all I've got.
Tommy Jackett: [00:29:58] No, no. Alright, look, I'll take your children away. If you don't purchase my
Josh Janssen: [00:30:03] kids won't love you anymore.
Tommy Jackett: [00:30:07] uh, anyway, hopefully tomorrow we're back in the studio.
Josh Janssen: [00:30:13] yeah. Then you have the news. The news is, is hinting hinting to that. Unless there's some sort of crazy outbreak in the next few hours, we should be able to be in the office altogether tomorrow. Sorry, that'd be good. Yeah, love it. Great. All right. Uh, it's a daily talk show. Enjoy the rest of your day and we'll send him our guys have a good one.
Tommy Jackett: [00:30:33] Say guys.