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do you do you ever have that jack where you ask a question, get the answer. And then two seconds later you say yes, we do it. We do it all the time. Is there something about live radio? That does it or like the pressure of performing or

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last time you had me on a milestone episode, and you were probably thinking that this will be Episode 300 or 500,000 is a milestone.

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But

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you've actually as you've gone to site you thought 200 it will be one of the small change episodes that wouldn't be right or

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else I wouldn't be looking at your milestone Mike technique is Yeah.

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jack is is back in

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the building. testing testing. If you're watching, obviously,

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okay, start the episode again. 321 Welcome to daily talk show. This is Episode 282.

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This is

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the thing. We couldn't get it right.

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Let's just start the conversation. Now we've just had, we're just how you guys feeling after eating all that food.

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We had to get to we plan to get jack on the show. And he said, Guys, I'm coming straight from work. I gotta eat first. And what I appreciate about that is he's a guy who knows, knows himself well enough that he has to have a bit of food in these TomTom. Yeah,

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I'm always starving at this time of day, which is do we say what time of day we record a

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so doing I'm just still new to breakfast radio on the not even a year into it. And after we get off air, we go into a meeting for an hour like half an hour. What about post show? I'm starving all the way through. I've tried to get like energize people to go Should we go have for breakfast? Should we do this at breakfast? Should we have a small break so we can go and get something away? No one seems to care for that. But I know that 11 I'm always starving said thank you so much lunch.

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We filmed a few people this week, and our initial corporate environment. And we and Josh asked the question to get the sound tastes soundcheck. What do you have for breakfast? Everyone said nothing. And then I was like, Well, what do you have for lunch then? Nothing. So there's a lot of people that just forget to eat.

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That's how you got to make it in corporate Australia these days.

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Success.

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This is what champions. I mean, they were like top top top top top executives in Australia.

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I actually honestly feel like Well, I mean, this is another revelation but have linked food is to your productivity and team achieve Brian working. So we're definitely then once you schedule because you're

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you're on the air.

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I know. This is the one

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I think it has some purpose. You get up extremely early and you go into the Breakfast Show. Yeah,

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what do you what are you doing? Are you on a straightaway so

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that you are a bit like me a bit like a baby, you know, Bry psychologist said that to

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me a bit of a baby in regards

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to somebody can't remember what it was. But it's just I know that sounds quite judgmental for a psychologist to say

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Well, I've never been I've never been regimented like I have before doing breakfast right so I now just because you so tired all the time unless you try to combat it with you know thinking ahead going to sleep early eating when you meant to eight so now I do wake up at 430 just have a tea that I put some like oil in yeah because it's like I think fat is

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so I

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put some oil and sometimes some butter and

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like a black

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tea. Yes black tea. Yes. Then I always the night before make a smoothie that I'll drink during the show. As I start to get hungry that's better than like having a bowl of cereal.

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What about you noisy? You co host Christian O'Connell or is that fair to him? co host

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Yeah, he's the main he's the top dog he said he's main host I'm little host

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I like to tell people that he's your co host. Yeah,

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sure. He's actually in

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obviously, we all know who the main one is. So I'm not gonna say it but we know

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Tommy knows who it is. And I know

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there's there's the ankle role of a show and it's funny because this is something I guess you've been involved in a lot of these conversations is working out roles of a show and a lot of these work can be done prior to even starting right here in champion we will try and work the shit out so what kind of person you in this show what kind of we haven't even done any hours Yeah, and so naturally Josh

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like to open the show and I actually had no care about it which I think needs to because if I was like I want to fuck it up in the shot I actually think it's

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better to be the person not doing the heavy lifting bolt

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in the hands of that it's not you get to then come on and

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this happened it

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happened to me like oh yeah, but we got to read the sponsor notes.

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Sponsors today we're going to cover

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I think the logistics get blamed on the the anchor

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right Yeah, I like being I like being in control so it works.

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control them stuff. Yeah,

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so I get to press some buttons sometimes I turned it off Mr. 90 sevens microphone for we don't need him. Yeah, while we're doing food Hari Krishna Connor. What's he's

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What's his food? He knew Good question.

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He's always got something in Tupperware iron. I don't know like a rice or pasta. I have not ventured into that yet. Like, take leftovers in an item for breakfast. I didn't like the idea of eating in a dinner food for breakfast. Yeah,

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are you a leftovers god no,

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no, no. And I'll tell you I've only just started to become one because I'm always hungry.

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I thought you're gonna say cuz you've got a mortgage.

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But

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I usually I use that and never ate leftovers even the stuff that people say is the best type of leftovers Pater and what are the other famous ones out of this

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bag? both things that is choking in yeah juicy hi res yeah Carrie I love a good I could

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do a carry a lefty I'm not much of a leftover guy on the just starting to be and it was partly because actually this renovation you talk about the mortgage. We got this new special oven that does like if you rate hate it in the oven rather than the microwave. It's meant to taste better. Yeah, I'm now reheating leftovers in the stains as well doesn't it's just a muffin. Yeah.

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Good night movies is real. I,

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I think meal prep, you know, meal prep. And I think it's actually just a glorified way of saying lots of leftovers. Yeah,

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well, that's what you got it. That's why you got to change your thinking from leftovers to meal prep. Because a meal prep is you don't even eat the meal at the time. So if you're not eating leftovers, you prepare the whole meal and you would throw the whole thing away. I think

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it fits nicely into the guy who wears the same thing every single day, same school of thought, right? thought about it, you got your meals out for the week. And you just the boiled egg got it has been a game changer for me.

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Boiled eggs in it just

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there's more to it like

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boiling and blah, blah, blah. That is literally like

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I'm not much of a scramble guy did a lot of scrambled eggs. When I was growing up. It was mainly making omelets but just not being able to nail them. But yeah, just having a couple boiled eggs and eating them on a mind poetics. And it's because you know what you might be similar to me in this regard to be babies.

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sounding like to be babies don't

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like leftovers.

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I don't sometimes I don't know eating just to have the best taste in the world. Whereas Bianca my wife loves to like, try and get every bit of taste out of a meal. Whereas I'm sometimes just eating for the fact you gotta eight. So that's what boiled eggs is easy, easy to do. Easy. This is only just like, I have been at the school of thought of not even eating for taste aiming for emotion. And second thing I'm going from a promotion to like odd This is there's something about boat eggs, where it's like, feels like I'm having not sailing, what's the what's the drink that everyone has? It's got all the stuff that you need

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electrolytes in each other. Yeah. And it says,

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You know what that was called? The moderate health

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and it's Soylent. They go.

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Honestly sounds like soil. Soil is the bed. Excellent.

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So Soylent is actually it's Bs,

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y le NT. Created by like an engineer, I think instead of the tech space, who realized he hated eating. And so he created this mix. All of the all the things you need into a drink and you get as a powder and you mix it up. I remember the guy who I stayed with in San Francisco. He's eBay. He was writing to

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Soylent say I would like that because sometimes even though like obviously having a meal from time to time it's just the speed and and probably bother making a home meal that I would love that you want

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to make missing is he's now dead that Gosh.

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It's actually really it is very, very good. Samsonite says have you found anything about it? Oh, no.

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No, it's just a meal replacement in in a drink format.

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Literally, just

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so you can buy you can buy you can buy specific brands. I think some do better ones. It's probably ones that have like a bit of chocolate flavor. Or

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a shortcut though. It is the equivalent of someone just saying Can I take a pill to help Yeah, it doesn't work in the long period of time I think shakes like greens powders and stuff sprite

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or your greens powders guy I feel like yeah Jay

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well I gotta try and the smoothie I make for the morning I put everything that possibly could be considered healthy and rearrange pad is Yeah, there's a lot of grains protein powder, Pina mushroom powder peanut butter, almond butter, not bought a Brazilian bata

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See? I wonder if

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I miss Blake would be able to have it with it the mushroom powder because he fucking hates mushrooms. Yeah,

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mushroom

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powder just tastes like really but do you think you could hide it in there? Because he described at once is if you have mushrooms on applies if you were to move the mushrooms off the plate just get rid of the mushrooms it would be the equivalent of someone having dog shit on a plate and then move

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that bag Come on.

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Save it for someone who doesn't like a food like I would be the same as always if they would always deliver pizza then you pick them off. I would still

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tarnish

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so olive oil could you

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do that? It doesn't that doesn't taste like

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okay yeah some stronger olive oil does a little bit stuffed

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olives now Now I don't even like a martini that comes with it yeah yeah don't even like

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the problem with me I'm liking everything yeah,

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so why you obviously obsessed with meal prep or meal plan

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I'm not at the moment I've got a child and fuck all time on my head.

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We are the children

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like was signed to Josh the other way like think about maybe you had a household growing up like this mom would do dad would do the shopping bulk shop like Yeah, and I always was like for most of my life looking at people the supermarkets fact there's a lot of shit there. How you do it like I'm always getting the $30 shop or 20 just getting a little bit involved. Yeah,

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I never still have never done a card load of shopping Yeah, you get a shopping trolley and fill it up to the

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on that guy on the Don hand-basket we

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do on Sundays all the time hundred and $40 shops it seems to be a cap hundred and 40 bucks and we can get most of our week pretty much all of our week except for blow out

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Yeah, I did that at Costco ones but it was that's a year

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a lot of dumb

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shit it's just like Costco and say like you to buy

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definitely don't need so I got what did I get

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a coffin there we got a massive the biggest the biggest fucking thing of popcorn sweet popcorn in like a big tub. We got like put it chocolate puddings never heard of chocolate pudding. I think it's just chocolate yogurt. No it's more like a cake is it? No it's not I thought it would be more like

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as real went like a yoga

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Yeah, exactly. Dance more density yoga. So I remember we ended up with so much of that sort of shit from

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from

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little baby free in a supermarket.

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I've realized as I my eyes Twitter, you know about my eyes twitching it's been it's, it's it's been doing for months and it hasn't happened in a while. I think I'm on two coffees. And this coconut sugar. Yeah, and I think like look at that.

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Well, we did Why doesn't it caffeine? I can't say Okay, that's good. Yeah.

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Do you drink coffee every day? Yeah,

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I drink

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to me I say I'm dying. Like I'm trying not to drink it because even though I'm waking up early and need to be awake but I just don't want to become

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this like desperate for an emergency that are you trying to get through that simple Have a drink you makki every morning

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sometimes it is it is like

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lucky

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yeah very lucky.

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Now we'll see I fell into the nest cafe just blend blend whatever it is when your morning know when I was in ship

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doing breath your idea All right, because he's

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the one that have the station. Yeah,

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but then it becomes like the little comfort thing you know about going in a little hot thing. Have you

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got a little comfort thing that you do? Yeah, I do to it and then I do another t when I get to the station which is just mushroom on his own mushroom, mushroom. Mushroom. Mushroom. Oh, well I tell you about the way the mushrooms came from. I was looking for this is Tim Tim Ferriss inspired again. He talked about always this Joe Rogan talk about a machine called Lion's Mane

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which which increase your like sex drive

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now I

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was meant to

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present right yeah

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yeah,

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he was what I thought it was was mental capability. Yeah thinking quick Yes. So I got that couldn't find it anywhere except for this one seller in Australia and barn by cold super fast and they

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sounded like a credit no well I

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only say because he sent me a whole lot of free stuff so I

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hey, I'm

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on the

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website what is their website

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no pain no sign up on this show that you

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it was

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definitely being paid by call.

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So he sent me he's like lines mines good but also try these he sent me also he wanted to get them to a machine and he said try these given

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free shit Have you gotten based on

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this is the

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machine name first thing not really? Well, I got this T shirt for free. This got sent to me today as well. What's What does it say? What did they even say? This is? When I announced that I was going to I'm starting a band on Instagram. Starting a band and I danced on Instagram. It's not man just for Instagram.

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Could be nowadays that'd be a very successful

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social media savvy thing of

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the sky from this band called the Kenyan arrows. Send me a message and say hey, I'm in a band to Canada send you a T shirt. That's nice. That's That's fine. So now you're wearing it. Yeah, I literally opened it before I came here. Do you have a p o box? No, I got it sent to the radio station because I didn't want him to know where I lived. Dude, we have a friend.

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We have a friend in the states that did this competition and sent out something that he owned to the winner that entered the competition it was running. Anyway, he the guy who received this prize from our friend took a photo of the prize and covered out his address. And then I looked and I zoomed in and it was our mates address on Oh yeah. Yeah,

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okay, so now you know where he lives. Well, we knew where he lives

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all the other people

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yeah so he I think he might get a p o box. Yeah,

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potentially will definitely call themselves out with that. Like, Instagram Stories are like hey, this is what I'm doing and they put like plane tickets and stuff up there which you can see the guy

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the guy did it with the Conor McGregor fight vs. Mayweather there was all these heaps is like yeah, it was so cool. Going to the event. He took it zoomed in cropped it in printed off both sides. barcode got in all access to the Mayweather

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Yeah, I think somebody did with Grand Final to us on Twitter. Yeah, somebody put their tickets on

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Twitter.

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So you just went to a fight the other week to new UFC. I went to my very first UFC fight on Sunday. Yeah,

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I know nothing about the sport. Do you guys know? Yeah, yeah. Do you sing

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and punching? Yeah, yeah,

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everything. I mean, it's there's no real Ultimate Fighting Championship

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other than you can't count. I can't elbow the back of the head can't kick him in the knots. You can't kick them when they're actually lying down there's a bunch of rules but essentially used to be even more brutal like head butting and shit. You can't do

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that. That's how it is. Yeah,

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well, Matt Damon was there

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Yeah, that's why I'm not in like not shaking hands. Yes. Saw him.

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He said What did you think of it like because I feel like I went to a boxing match it's very primal It feels like but I feel like one day maybe we will look back and say I like to leave we went into these fought we

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What do you think?

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Well at least now we're going further the other way which is UFC was banned and now it's it's not well, at least it was banned in Victoria and

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so we're coming more accustomed to it. So did you did you get that what? coming in and sort of like an outsider to the sport? Did you feel comfortable just going in and feel like I thought it would be more uncomfortable? I

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really thought it would be what do you say on highlight reels which is like if you just say on sports highlights the UFC Come on, you say guy crack another guy across the joy, bloods rise across the

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crowds.

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But in context, it's actually you understand it a lot more and you guess you tend to respect that the sport aspect of it more because it's not as barbaric as it probably seems from the outside. It is. It isn't like a lot of tactics and it's it is a sport. And it's not it's not wall to wall aggression where you trying to shield your eyes from violence.

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The reality is I'm not sure if someone's died from the UFC. Look at that, Mr. 97 but there's been a dude who died from a fastball in cricket. Yeah, yeah. Like that's like it's my It was a complete mistake. But it's amazing. Like, these dudes are connecting with fists cycles, short, you know, small pads, five people have died from UFC.

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And just wanting crickets like cricket is very sad

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from MMA, but the UFC franchise? I don't think so. Okay,

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it seems like a high number. Yeah.

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And say has met time and

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good.

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once in my life, I saw Chris Haynesworth sitting along the side with his wife. And it is I did have that moment where

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it is a

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it's such a weird thing. Just people sitting around watching people smash each other. It's very primitive, like old school. like yeah, it is and I guess rhyme and dies.

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Like

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there is an undeniable sense of, I guess. Well, that Coliseum feels like there's this big octagon in the middle of the room and it's mostly blokes at the road live or from what I gathered on Sunday, and it's you know, it's got that will fourth that testosterone lag. You know, we were here to see something could you drink? Yes, but I'm I'm fed fast. So I didn't

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know. Yeah,

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Tommy's doing a whole year of not drinking. Yeah, 2019 2019

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No, no drinking,

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how we're working hard about it. Nothing.

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It's it's been the easiest, but I've haven't had too many social events. Yeah,

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I think the only thing I worry about is it tends you tend to not go out like if you're on the borderline of Gosh, should I go to this and you're like I'm not drinking wine but you probably ashamed but otherwise and found it really

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easy eight more there is some nights like conspiracy Jimmy who's in the building you may not see him

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because he

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is that kind of guy. We would go out and you know sink piece and talk shit and we just haven't done that yet. And so that friendship doesn't rely on that because we've got to be on that but that he's a component of it. So I think there's that Mrs. You ate more shit food if you are at an event because you like

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I'll be drinking Yeah, there is that thing of like wanting to have your hands doing something used to a party or the pub to have like a hand and the Coca Cola credit

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card sugar you have soft drink drinker at all. I don't drink soft drinks I just drink water or mushroom tea.

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I drink mainly water to be honest but the thing is the reason I'm having tokenized reason why I'm having tokenized sugar is because I realized that I think having water I felt like was an out to then be like eight other shit I'm like well not having any calories in

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was like you want something you want something a bit

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swayed

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by exactly I'm gonna move the mic one last time technical from a

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technical way where am I good here now it's testing you

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don't have to go that crazy and but I adjusted it I feel a lot of pressure during the show to be the the technical guy the

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anchor bro

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Yeah. Usually a good anchor won't make the whole show about him was

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funny anecdotes. Let me just let me make your mind levels and 97 year old. Yeah, can I play this one? Yeah.

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You gotta press the fighter. me fuck ups of you. What's the biggest fuck up? You've had Did you were Catholic jack on Hi, machine, Andy when they were doing their radio stuff. So you sort of would? Yeah,

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I got told it was 15 grands worth. I don't know if that's true. But I played a whole ad break during the show, which was which I'd already played. So at 421 and then at 440. I played the same one again. So the ads that were meant to get served didn't get served. And apparently that was $1,000 mistake. Who who tells you I was that was Dave Cameron who was the grumpy day he was grumpy Dave who he might have been just trying to scare me I don't know if that's the official figures said don't quote me on that plays radio industry websites. Did you know they're gonna be on the show? They wrote an article about it.

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Well, funny. You said that because I was googling you. And it was

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about me as

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well. I find you Wikipedia because you don't have one. Yeah,

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well

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that is my mission at the moment to get on Wikipedia as a certified celebrity. Yeah,

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isn't it great to have like, like certain personal anxieties or personal sort of issues and then being able to put them out as a bit of stick like you can sort of shake his

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hand

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Yeah, but it's fucking down you want that? Yeah,

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exactly what it is you mask it is like this would be funny. Imagine if I kid this much about

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getting a Wikipedia

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Yeah, you actually do care a little bit back hitting that just started because I actually tried to on my own honestly, my and this was when I didn't want people to know I was trying to do it. I could make a fake email and make my own Wikipedia peg for jack pose. And they said I didn't have enough official references which are like newspaper articles and and the like to go on here we can verify this guy is a celebrity. The only ones I had with the radio industry top ones which they don't hold it I guess I guess no. I guess

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I said I'd like put a few more references in well every time someone from fucking sales moves moves from you ship it in Yeah.

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What's up with me? Was

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your show at the moment? This is like a

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no no, no, no, no, I don't get x Tell me. I'm just I'm a sidekick only okay, but no, I think is what we call you.

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So I don't get any stories that like I'm like a baby on a Simpsons episode is one character getting the main plot that's Christian then I might get a subplot. So Christian is Homer

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and Jojo. Do you know who it is? I know Christian is Mr. Burns.

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The

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why not Dave

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Smith is I think it was pretty sure was in love with Mr. Burns. Yes,

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I can

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say okay, I've seen you over for dinner

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at the O'Connell resident you saw that

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well

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it's somehow like this is the I don't even know it maybe was a new social media was I catching up with obviously you actually friends with the Christians? Oh

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yeah. When

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he was gone on holidays for a while so we had them over for lunch at our place as like a while we also wanted to shine the house because we've been working for two years on this renovation and I complained about it all the time. And I said I couldn't do work for the show because I was renovating so he had to see it in the flesh and others room

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to remember the last YouTube video that I've ever done was you and I talking about crypto

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Are you Bitcoin my god I wish we could go back to that moment and instead of explaining how to buy bitcoin we said we will sell Bitcoin that would have been probably the premier time to sell you've still got your Bitcoin not sold at all went into the house essentially yeah bit by bit we got a bit of

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coin by Bitcoin. What was the lesson had any life lessons on the Bitcoin thing?

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Probably because you're a Grady. Yeah, so honestly, as I say, Hamish and Andy, Greg, I came to the end in 2017 is a full time show still a podcast, but I was getting towards the end of the year without having a job lined up for the next year. This before I knew Christian was even coming so I didn't know about the job I'm currently doing. And I honestly thought I'll be fine because I have Bitcoin. I had enough to go like I got a good cushion here.

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Well, you weren't even talking about how many I feel like you're probably more comfortable talking about how many Yeah,

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you will like

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I've got seven Yeah, but I'm not telling like anyone because if they know but sevens probably worth

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$20 in the back. I wouldn't even call it lunch. 2020 Grand 21 right. What are they three grades about three grand but at the height when we break my wife and I had a we had a bit more than seven to be well we had seven Bitcoin then we had some of the other seven was the number you were telling me? Yeah. So we had seven Bitcoin, some a theorem, and then some other little ones. And we were like,

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all I see. Okay, I'll tell

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you this. This is embarrassing. Especially because we know now that cryptocurrency isn't like the loser. Yeah, yeah, it's not the money maker. I thought it was. I honestly had a web page up on my browser for a while that were, there was a list of countries to emigrate to where you don't pay tax for crypto currencies. We were going to move out of the

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way,

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I actually follow a guy on YouTube called Nomad capitalist. And he talks all about that stuff. It's like, where to set up like how all these sort of about how to get out of the country, like tax havens, or just like having multiples. Like he's like, if you if you invest for citizenship, like if you it's like citizenship through investment, there's a thing called that where it's like, if you invest in a country, you can automatically get citizenship

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in the US. Yeah,

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if you can inject enough money into the how much is enough? I think it's like 500 grand,

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you'll be more and so the thing is, there's been a watch who has has one and I just remember watching this video is like, one of the great things about Vanuatu, is that you can actually visit Russia without any visa.

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I was like, Fuck, I made it. I've never been to Russia because you

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are loopholes God. I was like, Fuck, how good would it be to visit Russia

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without having to go into the

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just a different law? Essentially.

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You're going to the States, middle of the USA.

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Yes. Yep. My wife's family lives in Miami, Florida.

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And and

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it's not

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you know what, Miami Miami they actually live in a place called Fort Lauderdale, which is a little bit north from Miami and it's just like suburban life it is in particular and is it

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JC Gold Coast style in Australia is

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Miami Miami is like the the actual like South Beach or wherever the famous spot but now it's kind of just suburban and then I'm also I'm holidaying with my in laws. So it's not like we're going to nightclubs to four o'clock in the morning. Yeah. Yeah.

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I'm like if you're with all the boys. Yeah. I'm not doing it now. Because I'm on fifth.

29:07
And so you going middle of the you saying earlier about? How you getting over there? Well,

29:13
yes Josh and I used to talk a lot about points. Like Another thing you love, like hacking and loophole. It was like this idea of it kind of convoluted, so I won't go into it too much. But you buy points from one airline at a discounted price when they're having a sale and you can use it to redeem awards flights on some other flights. I quantify,

29:34
like first class that might normally cost $12,000 return and you could get it for like 20 $500.

29:42
So it's still more than an economy ticket. But like when you begin there you like you feel prima and yeah, and I hate air travel because of like how uncomfortable I feel. And I can't sleep because we're both babies.

29:54
Where am I?

29:56
Putting first class you could actually bring it? Yeah, absolutely. So we we know about the points hacking, but then we got this other avenue at the moment, which is my wife's mom and dad own a real estate company, who one of the clients was this guy called Mr. Ralph and Mr. Ralph worked at United. I think he was even a pilot for many years. You know, that is one of the big us airlines that flies into Melbourne and famously dragged someone off.

30:27
Yes, like drag the doctor off the flight. Yeah.

30:29
They the Qantas of America,

30:32
America. American Airlines would be the quantum physics one world united would be closer to their Star Alliance. So that would not

30:43
virgin okay. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. So he gets these for being a pilot for many years and now he's retired he's in his 80s he gets all these flights or access to floods for for cheap. prosper only pays the taxes. So now he runs this slide business. with PayPal, he knows that he goes, I'll buy your flights, which cost me only the taxes out charge a little bit for myself. So first thousand bucks. We can fly from Melbourne to LA in the first class.

31:13
Oh, yeah. That's good to be amazing. They're like you arrive and they shake your hand. Mr. Ralph.

31:25
Mr. Ralph.

31:28
Ralph come His

31:29
name is a legit name. Do you think Mr. Ralph, I think

31:33
his name is Ralph but I

31:37
Spanish speaking is their first language so Mr. Ralph might just be a funny way they say he's Ralph. I didn't know if he wants this. But if you guys don't have a huge us audience

31:50
that's actually where we've blown up. Yeah, especially for

31:54
14% of our listeners come from the US Oh, really? Yeah.

31:57
Well,

32:00
picky about it was chop it up, Mr. Rob,

32:02
as if you're gonna find him on his number. And so this is you know, you just Google I'm sure if you just Google fine or no.

32:09
It's underground. Like he doesn't have his own websites like Hey,

32:12
Mr. Ralph, disclaimer first class. Is this what you've done for this latest? Fine, this is what we're doing. Yeah. Do you know what the savings are? Key talking about? Wow, I don't know. Like it's out.

32:22
Well, it costs us $1,000 us it was like 1400 Yeah. 1500 Ah, and

32:27
if that was 10% tax

32:30
law so you're talking about what are the earnings for Mr. Brown and

32:34
what what Yeah, well, I don't know. I don't know how much your flight costs with that business or what's that visit? Well, they only have you they call first class but yeah, we know as a business Yeah. Because I only have I don't have a business class in the first class that and they have the first amazing economy.

32:48
So I'm the guy that doesn't want to do the work here. Like I want the easy access. I want Ralph

32:53
and yeah,

32:54
the points thing for me is to him Yeah,

32:56
he's not an unlimited resource. Like I'd love to suggest to you're listening like get in contact with me. I'll get on to Ralph and we'll have the floods because my even my mom tried to do it after we bought as and, and us he was getting to the point where he's like, I'm doing too many of the moment let's wait a little bit said mum

33:12
wasn't happy with what happens when Mr. Rowe sort of dies

33:19
dies Yes, yes.

33:21
The race I actually got the July flight booked and then one for November which is the lightest they have flat at the moment I think available Yeah, and the idea is to move that one to 2021 to fly again because my mother in law is saying hey by these Mr. l floods why he's alive because no no because they've been sorry they've come over here on Mr. l floods before even though banker I haven't used them. They've come here is a real flood so she knows how good they are. And she's saying by double the this is giving me tingles

33:51
or that you want to buy stuff

33:53
Yeah, but this is like the equivalent of me saying Amazon was doing free shipping and I ended up with a few thousand

33:57
dollars record brand library

33:59
wraps around

34:00
Yeah, I mean it on your on the way out, which I dunno if he is but the way that my mother in law are speaking he might be on his last legs. And we got to get 05 he doesn't care because what does he care?

34:13
Have you started caring less as you got older?

34:15
Oh, definitely. Yes. 100%

34:17
Yeah,

34:18
how are you now? 31 that's the thank you for Fuck it. Yeah, I reckon Wait, wait, what I see because I think there is a pivotal point in most paperwork

34:29
ritual Bitcoin or probably such a thing. And then you got you started really caring when you realize it had

34:37
with how much you been flown do

34:40
I think it's just natural like that this guy? I'm doing the bandwidth Mike he I think he got he might be coming on the podcast, your podcast.

34:50
He started his own podcast if anyone wants to hear it's called 2999 20th

34:54
century boy Yeah, that's right. Hanging out with someone who's on the 24 It makes you realize like thank you and I was exact same as as human that I just care about shit so much like what people think and like how it's going to be perceived. And it's so freeing to go are you don't

35:10
have to care about what do you remember like that was when that would have been the age that you will not like I would have been in my 20s Yeah, and like we were so worried about especially memory like memorization games. That was a big remember Yeah, but we weren't worried about what other people thought

35:28
Did you bring up the memorization games last book I didn't

35:31
I fuck

35:32
it I'm just I'm gonna go turn my I'm gonna go bring my laptop because for some reason

35:38
can you actually object to the hard drive from the laptop god

35:46
it's actually not

35:49
to yell

35:49
out

35:49
my

35:55
just

35:57
a second

35:57
I think there's probably the Hey Tommy

36:03
actually was moving back Josh that actually gave me anxiety

36:08
I'm sorry I don't know

36:10
the difference in the guy that actually is trying to get through his Wikipedia to the guy who is doing it as a joke I'm totally that person like when you starting out I totally was trying to sort of it's like fake it before you make it like trying to leverage these things like getting in social papers or something I think there is a point where there's a lot of Josh is back I'm

36:36
not talking to you and I

36:38
used to announce also that I just received an email that's actually important to the show.

36:43
Okay.

36:45
Good Yeah. Females

36:50
quickly

36:50
fucking Move over.

36:53
Is that right? Yeah, that's fine. I reckon you still care about output so when when you making stuff like you guys make so like, Whatever you do, you still care for it to be good and to be well received? You just care less I think about

37:08
worrying if I used to worry if certain paper help certain people would perceive me maybe like how you more than my parents gonna think of this. So like, what is like somebody I like I respect going to think of this whereas you just sort of stuff.

37:25
You read Seth Godin blog post this week? I think it was today Josh

37:30
know.

37:31
We're recording this the day before, it would be amazing. It was denied

37:35
since so many

37:39
ways Wednesday.

37:42
I

37:42
was gonna be the Mr. Ralph stuff that was gonna be

37:45
given the admin guy, how

37:48
much

37:50
can we expect now when it'd be really honest, we're doing this.

37:58
Will try it. We never record.

38:01
We never pre record

38:02
but we did this one this one is that we're going to have it and you know, what, as as, as a as a, as a trade will put this out at six. I was going to hold on, put this out at sort of 11am. Yeah, because jack has lifted the lid will put it out at 6am. So you're getting an early shot. I like I like that.

38:18
That's, that's that's guys,

38:22
Jeff Gordon was saying about how it can be dangerous is a perfect

38:26
place to ever tell writing. Yeah, yeah.

38:30
So sharing your work in the early stages to get feedback on something. So it's like, save 70% of most people will think it's not great.

38:39
Yes.

38:40
30% will be supportive of it. And like, that's great, you know? And so there's a high probability of coming across one of those 70% people in the early stages, which then can cripple you actually putting the thing out right yeah. And so maybe like you're saying you start caring less but maybe you just dialing in who you're talking to about staff you caring less about the noise in the early days, because you've got the people that you show like again Madden new show Josh something before you just show some random guy office, and he

39:09
stopped worrying that you can't please everybody, you will never you will make something that hundred percent of people. Yeah,

39:14
I hate the impulse. Last night mum said I listened to the show

39:20
your Monday. Yeah. And that's what she said last night.

39:23
And she's one of the 70%

39:26
Do you know what I said? You know, the awesome impulse was normally I say what did you think? And in that moment, I was just able to go Oh, cool.

39:35
That's good

39:39
five learnings now because I

39:41
feel like it is it like I opened myself tonight like I'm like do I actually care and this might be

39:48
constructive feedback from some people is not really going to help you if you're making the product for it's

39:53
not for my bed so the sandwich

39:55
This is the a lot of work. You introduce me to a great book, which is called steal like an artist. Yeah.

40:02
Who's that? Who's the clown? Yeah,

40:05
he's a great show your work isn't show you show you work, which is a book that I'm just rereading again now which is a battle that is

40:12
fantastic. And when you say rereading is this

40:15
audible?

40:16
No It's such a fucking small

40:19
read it like old school style but I do a lot of audio books now I know you've got Josh has passed on I'll actually be minute asking you like

40:28
password Yeah.

40:30
I me my wife she wants the thing I really want to settle out of not giving a fuck

40:35
the interesting thing I went on to my audible account, I clicked on something to listen to. I said did you want to go to the same spot as iPhone 47 I've given it to that many people 547 gonna shut me down. So

40:48
it's like try to do this if

40:53
you don't like you've listened to already. I'm not interrupting your flow with it.

40:57
You

40:58
don't know where I'm at though. I might be having a break and be listening to a car totally. But wouldn't it show that you're

41:03
halfway halfway through just says Would you like to go back to the certain spot? I never I

41:08
never mind. But I do need that again. Although

41:12
I've started paying for some myself. Am I the best for you? I'm that I am mate, mentee of Allah

41:18
has just chimed in on our video from yesterday, which is recorded today. Your fucking idiot

41:28
to edits in his book,

41:30
Matt says so we were talking about Americanisms?

41:34
Yes. If you are in a queue

41:37
you know you're lining up for sporting event

41:39
this is a segue disease drop this

41:44
this is what

41:46
you do this every shot with Christians talking. Is this a segue

41:54
about what Tony was talking about about now you

41:58
know, this is a this is a hyperlink

42:06
Can you not? That's not the one that causes $15,000

42:13
that's royalty me that's music we have to pay a license for that's okay. It's fine. No. So

42:20
you Americans? What are you looking at? I actually saw where it's like a Bluetooth button. Can you Bluetooth into audio? Yeah.

42:26
So we could This is the road cast. And this is another credit integration. The road caster allows you to connect your phone through Bluetooth up to the the mixer, and we could bring in a coal live. Yeah.

42:38
Oh, how'd you do cold now we don't at the moment,

42:41
but we could do a bunch of stuff. So eventually, we're all good. When my list that's all

42:46
in a little thing here. I would love if you guys see calls. It's like, yeah, you know, bringing a live? It could be

42:53
Julie. No, we've got Mr. Ralph on the line.

42:58
directly we

42:58
could do a interview. Probably not. He's probably very underground would have to and he wanted

43:02
he wanted he want people to know about the

43:04
service. Okay. Yeah, I'm going to promote it. Okay.

43:07
Alright. So So you were saying

43:09
the American ism. So Americanism. If you're in a queue, if you're lining

43:12
Sorry to interrupt one more time? Is this a special email you got over there? Or is this just another email?

43:18
Is what does that mean? Well, you got

43:20
you said, you went over there? Yeah, I'm plugged the hard drive. You said I've got a really special email. I just show special email from the show. Because I was this email and

43:27
yeah, and so because I have seen call my phone so I can see any of the emails that I get.

43:31
I do

43:32
I just want to know if we're getting the special one or if we're getting

43:35
this is a special one because we only just spoke about it, especially email let

43:40
me so

43:47
tell me probably thought that there was no one more annoying than maybe with the

43:51
broadcaster.

43:52
And you've managed to prove it wrong. touch it again. We need to actually work out some form of God. Yeah.

43:58
So that PCC Evelyn of the chef, cooking your dinner, and you're in there playing with these knives.

44:09
I can

44:10
actually enjoy watching this interaction anyway.

44:14
If you're all queuing up for something, so you're at Whole Foods. Yeah. Could you explain it to jack Can you say without saying the

44:20
whole foods? You're about you've got all your groceries in there's about 17 gronk in front of you because it's it's Black Friday? Yeah.

44:28
Getting some special Yeah, I'm going to be risky because they all lining up. Yeah.

44:33
Now.

44:34
If you're referring to them, what are they doing?

44:39
lining up Oh, queuing and what

44:41
are they were as a

44:42
Yeah, it's what is it? What is the

44:44
desert just

44:47
like you so join all go to that line on that line? Is that what you mean? You said go into that

44:52
line?

44:52
No joke. Go to that line. Would you say in the last like, about two that long?

44:57
Okay, so once you're in there, someone says what doing? I'm Johnny lon

45:01
in LA? Yeah,

45:03
in the US. Did they say in line?

45:05
I have no idea.

45:06
You're Australian. But you are dieting? Yeah.

45:08
by Mary Jo. So like,

45:12
have you heard American say, I'm on the line? Oh, yeah.

45:19
Now Bianca said that I would pick her up on and go. Yeah,

45:22
so I've heard multiple times where people are saying on the line on the line. So the funny thing is, Matt, Dave Ella just said

45:33
in the line not on the line and he's from Los Angeles. Okay,

45:36
so maybe I might up that whole bit

45:38
high chance of it scoop is also that's

45:40
from a previous episode just started that come Yeah,

45:42
so that was from yesterday.

45:46
Which Yeah, you do the math they

45:48
do the math I mean we tried to we Yeah, we already spoke on the show know before the show at Nando's about how the reason Tommy and I never read grabbed for the broadcaster The reason Tommy and I don't pray record is because we're not smart enough to remember the thing that we ask the question

46:09
yet how many what split of people watch this as a video and what? How many people will listen give it to him Eric in between five and 10% watch the video yeah all right, because I saw that because I went to touch the road yeah and you said it for the audience like jack is there touching the road? That's because most the it's just audio Yeah, exactly. Right

46:29
It's not the arrow a day we're not doing this outside on a road

46:33
road is actually got like a funny and interesting lane. What is that called that? No way. It's like it looks like an oom lout sort of thing that's not an omen yeah

46:40
and it's like a strike through and I

46:42
don't know why they do so road Do you know where they're from? No Australian brand

46:49
so then

46:49
I need that special like that's the thing they put the special Oh because they want to look a bit more euro and so early on to try and

46:58
work as as you see it and all automatically you go like oh yet some like Scandinavian Britain they probably know all about the what's called we

47:05
Israeli has some of the best like, or they are one of the latest audio out of the country in the world.

47:12
Like people around the world using thing is they've actually like set up the factory so they can make them and stuff

47:19
so

47:21
that's quite cool don't go all right so

47:23
got that credit

47:24
that was

47:25
thanks to say on the big thing here 47 minutes what are we doing doing an hour?

47:32
How does it feel compared to compared to doing your small talk breaks? What are they on radio? Yeah,

47:38
five minutes and then go to a song

47:40
pushing the boundaries. Five minutes

47:44
just a long break longer than

47:46
we used to when we're when we were starting right here. You get told to like three minutes. Yeah, I mean, it's short and sharp, tight and bright. He pushes some Edward

47:53
economy

47:54
I can help. That's awesome. And so how does it feel like I mean, you you're an old fossil. You've been doing this for a long time. How does podcasting feeling compares Oh,

48:03
I like to talk at ends like keep talking Do you get bored

48:07
Yeah.

48:12
Daddy talk show you just stood up Have you

48:13
had to get used to because I said to you before we were recording I told you last week I said we film every episode now. Yes. So can you do the thing with your hair to make it curly? Yeah,

48:25
I found that funny. Actually Toby Josh said something funny.

48:30
That's no my my shake my shtick is to tell people when I said something funny

48:33
he told

48:34
me actually while you were walking down the street yeah my lunch. He told me about this joke he told you about the Davis Cup guy does that real? Yeah,

48:43
I didn't find it funny I got

48:45
to tell you

48:46
what's even less funny is when he's telling you about a joke he told somebody else and he's like I've got to find the message so I can get the

48:53
jacket

48:55
I was like Hi I'm just gonna

48:57
I ended up improving I'm I don't know the exact words but I just said you know the David's cap guy anyway.

49:03
But did you

49:05
did you find Joey laughing good like it's real in the filming element. What are the I like it? I like the film but what about the rules around like so going into doing Christian show now and I guess he and I with the podcast is it expected now that if you're on radio that you need to be ready to be filmed? Yeah,

49:28
because we got all mine well most studios now have the in studio cameras which have fixed him position in the room and you just always expect them to be rolling. But it's not like I do my hair. I mean I was coming on here so obviously I got dressed up

49:42
for this but usually I would weekly sheet I got some of my T shirt some guys sent this to me just check these out is is this going to be the first time for a while that two backwards kept scars? Absolutely. A lot of the time there's two guys in black t shirts now why

49:56
do guys with white t shirts and to black

49:59
back with Josh

50:00
you still doing that thing where you only wear the same black t shirt yeah

50:03
yeah

50:04
tell me about that about a year year and a half it's still going Can you believe it? It's good I feel

50:07
I've got a new order

50:10
of

50:11
of T shirts so it's been a year or whatever I'm sort of replacing them with fresh

50:16
ones yeah

50:19
it's got a whole bunch of the other stuff the cool stuff that he used to

50:22
do oh he's

50:23
gone through a few

50:25
days yeah yeahs

50:27
for a bit he

50:29
your old YouTube channel which is just you just you trolling

50:34
me

50:34
now

50:36
look like

50:36
you work for Saturday's because you had Saturday's New York different top every episode.

50:40
I think I stopped wearing them based on your trial.

50:43
So you know I was talking about the 70% of people that were like what you do I

50:47
liked what

50:48
you were doing I just noticed is I got another Saturday so so many Sundays what

50:52
what are your specifics? What's your little quirks do you have? I've got a deodorant that I wear Mr. Pete's which I really liked. It's because

51:00
he says that when I use my spray on, it's going to give me

51:05
isn't that a fair thing?

51:07
To have asked me because I haven't seen you have asked me yet.

51:09
If it's

51:11
an April Fool's Day. Yeah,

51:13
I'm not offering one hand.

51:17
Like it's the equivalent of rubbing peanut butter on someone who's allergic, you

51:22
know? Why have you not had asked me yet since I've been spraying in this room? You're the you're the you're the guy call it the nut allergy guy or the the one with what's that? The thing? The the

51:37
disease? Is the glue,

51:39
the celiac that actually doesn't have celiac disease.

51:43
I feel like celiac people are less annoying because they're not saying don't

51:45
eat bread around me. I think real celiac.

51:48
more laid back I know when I went to primary school, and I bumped into her for the first time in years, the other day. And she said yeah, I've got Celia. She's like, most people don't have it. Yeah,

52:00
I heard that a lot of people maybe and mall could die intolerant.

52:05
Good. Yeah.

52:06
get it checked out.

52:08
YouTube separate vid. That's Josh actually have asthma from

52:12
the surprise, but once you're

52:15
not really I know he you love that kind of stuff. I'm not like that, where I gotta always have the same deodorant. Each time I go to the supermarket to replace it's gonna be the same one. You spend five minutes talking about this mushroom Tang and exactly how you do

52:27
it.

52:30
Well, I do like the mushroom tea. I on a knife. It works. But it's like it's meant to be, you know, ancient civilizations drank it a lot. You know, in ancient China, they would drink the tea. He goes over this guy goes over to China and gets the tea. I like it. I like it.

52:46
Have you had much? Ah,

52:48
yes. I've put some butter in the smoothies. Yes.

52:51
Do they have exactly

52:52
in the US? I don't know if it's as big as what I'm just

52:57
read the packaging on the Moto moto is actually using the whole leaf. So it's difficult from my understanding because they need to, they need to do a bunch of other stuff like the last couple of weeks of its life they need it needs to be under shade or whatever. But it's actually ground down. It's a super bright green color. And it's used in like ceremonies and stuff in Japan. So you normally have like a little wooden whisk I actually had if I go to Instagram, if I went to my archived photos from like, 2011 I was getting right into all tequila. Yeah, I know. I didn't buy kilo because it goes off quite quickly. But I got some and I got like a whisk and like a ceremony on bone. So I was like fucking work. drinking out of sermon Josh

53:42
is what you call. He is the early adopter of early adopters, isn't it? Yeah, he don't you think he's always on stuff before everybody he was the first person to

53:53
Uber

53:53
before but when I was still a novelty me and it was just private cars on the

53:58
I remember it cost me 30 back to get from Port Melbourne to my seen FM interview with you which lay on FM for people who don't know is a community station. I definitely I've got a photo. I'll post it on the daily talk show. I've got a photo of me in like a It's not often a it's just a photo of a really Luxe car. And I asked him Can you put it on 97 point 7.7 90.7 which is sin and and it was back then it was only electric on the blackout? It took 25 minutes for the car. Remember 25 minutes it took to get to me Yeah. Which is

54:35
like Now we all know why Uber's good because it takes three minutes and you just

54:40
the two of us yesterday three years we caught yesterday. Well I caught an extra one. I got stung on waiting fees. What the hell did you not know about it? started charging for waiting. So this is the thing like it just the app sends you an auto response. Hey, we're at the front. I didn't call

55:00
that's kind of fair.

55:00
Like

55:03
they're on the clock.

55:04
Trying to make the extra kick. I mean, I am

55:09
running around spraying Joshua deodorant it's gonna be

55:12
even lights fucking deodorant sometimes rude.

55:16
I remember doing that as a teenager getting friends over and then old school of vice bright. Yeah, make a little flame throw.

55:24
Nice. It's

55:24
very washes. I was obsessed with fire as a kid. The problem the problem with a bit too real.

55:33
Not the burning house and I'm just big claws

55:36
into flying. The early adopter thing that it can't be too much of your identity though

55:43
because I think

55:44
because there's a risk there's a risk in just sounding like the told you so guy,

55:50
like even when you are like that. Like,

55:51
I was going to bring up podcasting as an example. So Josh was one of the first people I knew him to have his own podcast them for why he hated podcasting because it was so everybody has a podcast. Yeah. And now look at me. Yeah,

56:02
come full circle. I know. But the thing is that I it's hard to like what am I What do I look like from the outside doesn't just look like I'm this

56:12
black t shirt. look a little bit like

56:16
sour grapes. podcast into while so each and every Dude, I think 11 episodes. Yeah.

56:22
And I was interviewing people about how they got into their careers. And just by chance because he worked at Fox FM. They all were employed by

56:30
this TV box. Jules, lon Hamish and Andy.

56:33
And I still around. Yeah,

56:34
you can go to Josh speaking. And

56:36
I think the first adopter is always potentially the first out of as well, like that's what comes with it. It's almost the same gear on the other end? Well, it's been around guys, not this one this up?

56:47
Do you think it's because and you would know, as an early adopter, you have some kind of connection to it, because you were in first. And it's actually harder to use a product Uber's a perfect example using it when it's not at all. It doesn't actually improve your life. Because it's taking longer than a taxi. It's just as expensive. So you then feel like, when everybody jumps on board, you're like, Well, I was I was doing this when I was hard. Yeah. And now you guys are jumping on when it's easy.

57:14
I think that part of it is that it becomes at the beginning, the seed is an opportunity. You say it is like no one else is doing it. And that's the novelty in it. So it's and then when more and more people do it, like what is the real difference between podcasting and radio, it's like for I guess we, we differentiate it based on format, we sort of we've come to say, a podcast is long form. It's talk only radio has this type of structure, you have small talk breaks, you have a breakfast show that does x, y, and Zed or a morning show in the States. And so those formats and stuff i think is eventually going to disintegrate. So the podcasting, and radio, whatever it is, is just a delivery system. But it's it's going to get to a point where it's like you have stuff that sounds a lot like radio on podcasts. And there will be that like the reason why it sounds different at the moment podcasting is because there's no super easy way to live stream. But when it turns into everyone can do that. Through live streaming, what's the difference? Can if we could start taking calls, and we can play music through a Spotify license or Spotify can inject their music in? What's the difference kind of a talent maybe like to start I guess its talent because it's like to be able to you think about how expensive it is to have a license. Within the radio context. You have to be certain

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what's the difference between an early adopter and someone who's a visionary? Because I think what you've been having some thoughts around podcasting Josh lately that I think it pretty on the money, like with Spotify, buying gimlet media for $200 million, I think, yeah, they just bought like, That's crazy. That's crazy money. They said they're going to spend half a billion on podcast development.

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And so well, actually. And you notice now all radio stations, jumping on board, podcasting, and putting money in resources into podcasting, separate from radio,

59:19
and I think it's really, which

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is weird, because you can pay 900 bucks less, and get this and you're away. And you can have the biggest podcast in the world.

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And I guess the thing is that,

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so where's

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that money going? I'm asking 500

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million? Well, I mean, I guess you know, you know, paying like playing a lot of ads. Yeah.

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For the family, for today.

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But for people making their podcast at home and stuff, whereas I guess what they're securing is when ad revenue comes into podcast more than it is on own podcast, obviously have ads. But when they figure out how to get more revenue in there, they want to be I don't

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know,

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I just I think that what part of what I get upset with these hearing or being within radio, and seeing how much they are dragging their heels and fucking

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big like, yeah, big companies always going to take longer to move. Yeah, the little guy.

1:00:14
But then I guess that part of it is like, because the thing is, it's like, they've got to do something that all these big companies, it's like, it's good that they're doing something. But I can't help but feel not jaded, but sort of feel like that's actually where all of this is going isn't going to be in the big fuck off brands. Yeah.

1:00:35
One last question. Before we finish about early adopting. What are some things that you've jumped on board early that never made it through to the other side

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for square?

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Oh, where's the one where you saw me? Yeah.

1:00:48
So for Foursquare was checking in before Facebook did checking in Yeah. And so I was the and when you check in at a bunch of places, you'd become the mayor of that place. Yeah.

1:00:56
So that was the that sort of had some popularity, even though wasn't an interesting read. Sorry. I didn't think it did, too. I got a Meerkat.

1:01:07
periscope

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as Paris live. It's just live streaming. Yeah,

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actually, you know, the one that did the the one that I laugh at is Gary Vee. Who has done well, but I just heard Gary

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Vee. Is he the one guy? Yeah, yeah.

1:01:21
And so Gary Vee I remember watching him in like, oh, five.

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And the but seeing him now and saying,

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What are you laughing at me? Because I just love it.

1:01:33
He says, because he

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said I remember watching him you know five and he looks amazing. Elliot Oh, it's so true.

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You drop the

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famous thing

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it wasn't it was it wasn't really and so that's that went up bro.

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But that's

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that's the thing he he met now. He's actually in popular culture. And I sit Yeah, I see on like driving past. I can momentum energy. They've got a billboard at the moment. It says hustle like hustle. And it like talks about hustlers. I might. Actually that phrase hustle is hustling whilst it's probably been around and also I think the current way we're seeing it right now. People like Gary Vee are in the top.

1:02:13
But I guess he put all these chips. Yeah,

1:02:16
exactly. Yeah, no, no, in a good way. You know what I reckon will Can I tell you what my eBay put all these chips into this thing that didn't? That was not

1:02:25
easy. Me candy made the YouTube equivalent. He are Yeah. So he made all these content or something? Yes.

1:02:30
He was doing a lot of stuff on just gone blank. We spoke about Yeah, I mean, I guess

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that's good. Because when a lot of YouTube, I mean, you guys have done a lot of stuff on YouTube. Viva La was what they were, like they cut the YouTube was taking from what they were paying the content creators are too much. So would be cool. If everyone could say, Hey, we're moving over to this new one that pays everyone better. But the reality is, it's really hard to show

1:02:52
everybody first to platform There is something about in some cases, but it's not the equation for success.

1:03:00
So bear. So

1:03:00
that's why I didn't do a podcast after my last one for ages, because I'm like, I've missed the boat podcasting has done. And the reason why I came back I think was because I was like, Oh, actually, you think about how successful radio shows that have happened in the last 15 years. It's not like radio started 15 years ago, radio has been around for four years, but it's about doing something different. But one of my predictions. Is this what I think's going to happen? You know, how do you watch Joe Rogan

1:03:29
music there is a drum roll somewhere fine, you'll find it

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that's an applause

1:03:41
if your headphones on I said I wouldn't

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know how do you watch Joe Rogan at the moment or consumed Joe Rogan

1:03:50
podcast it I know people just get the clips on YouTube. I've listened to it probably don't often listen all the way through just for about half an hour. 45 minutes

1:03:59
you what

1:04:00
I reckon is going to happen is if people don't know Joe Rogan is one of the biggest podcasters he does long form interviews. He does live stream with video. Yep, what I reckon will happen is I think YouTube will eventually allow content creators to when they're going doing a live stream, there'll be a checkbox, which will be optimized for audio. And I can imagine YouTube being have YouTube had youtube music, which has, I don't really think has been a massive thing. I can imagine there being a YouTube radio or YouTube audio version, where you can live stream all these different shows. So you can subscribe to them all. It will create radio sort of playlist for you integrate youtube music, and also have its video offering. So if you're watching something on a TV, and then you get into your car, YouTube will know all that information and be able to texts which give you audio when you're in there. The when you What do you think anything that could happen? Yeah.

1:05:06
Would you know?

1:05:08
We're just we're just five minutes over time. And I heard that people can vote. Yeah.

1:05:12
Then we can end the show on that

1:05:15
now. Yeah, we can. Now we can. That's all we have time for today.

1:05:18
Literally, this is my shtick.

1:05:23
You guys talk about YouTube so much. I didn't even get to plug my band. Oh, yeah, I didn't even get to talk about Wikipedia, which I wanted you guys to help on Wikipedia. Yeah.

1:05:30
So what's the latest on the Wikipedia Scott? Do you guys edit it Wikipedia and not only you

1:05:35
get

1:05:36
special privileges if you're already in because I wasn't an editor and I came in they said Are we gonna have to review what you're putting out? Because we don't trust you. So I need somebody 97 who's who edits me PDF. I was hoping that he would he has a need someone who does it a lot.

1:05:54
Yes, I had if I got on before, you

1:05:56
know, I'll be happy because maybe you can link to me and it helped me the True. True. I don't really care. Also, I'm making a band. We don't have a band name yet. I was gonna pay you if a tiny bit of the music. Where is it? It's on my phone.

1:06:08
Okay. Can we just play? This is the app. Yeah.

1:06:11
Can you play it for us? Do you don't have to?

1:06:15
Just play it for Tommy nine mo in certain music. I only want to play a second.

1:06:20
Second,

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I'm not gonna play the whole thing because it's still released. She doesn't want a taser. Okay.

1:06:29
No, no bad.

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vibes.

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That's the

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original. I like it. Was it

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you on the that's

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good fun. Yeah.

1:06:46
Okay, what do you have Mike on Mike liberal? Yeah,

1:06:50
he's the only guy he doesn't talk about his last name. Not Johnny. I think he did a whole bit on his podcast where he's like, my last night guy. Yeah, between Mr. Ralph and that is you're gonna

1:07:01
any friend Yeah, this is ici expose eyes. Yeah. Every five minutes

1:07:06
and so can you quickly update on a mission Andy for this year? You're doing the podcast once again, podcast comes back

1:07:13
March a February 28.

1:07:17
And is it can be any changes to the format or anything? Yeah,

1:07:20
long form podcast now where we interview people UFC fighters,

1:07:26
much shorter

1:07:28
stuff. Yeah,

1:07:28
funny, right? size? hallucinogen.

1:07:32
Are you a meditator?

1:07:33
Nah, I've tried in the past I bet it I believe that has benefits and I would love to experience those benefits but I just couldn't

1:07:44
sit in a padded phone Bry shake in the morning

1:07:48
and it

1:07:50
quickly you can do live shows of the band what's the what's it made me feel like

1:07:54
I'm wrapping up possibly getting bored of that YouTube stuff. If you guys want to keep talking again. What's a question?

1:08:02
Is the live show music yes to be honest.

1:08:07
Guys, you're actually gonna sit it up and people are gonna think that they're bored

1:08:11
they sort of created all this Tony

1:08:15
we have got no fucking time to edit it live doing that's what

1:08:18
1979 he just literally

1:08:23
do 97 because

1:08:24
this is the first time that jack has been able to throw that gear at someone outside of him. How many years did you get that?

1:08:33
Actually respect what you do.

1:08:36
But I don't know what

1:08:37
so

1:08:38
so what is our band in

1:08:40
the band seven what's what's the deal?

1:08:41
I want I want us to play live Yeah, we want to play live but we're not anywhere near that. Yeah, we only even though we started recording so we recording with the real music producer which is the exciting bit except he's doing us a favor so we can only do it when he's about

1:08:57
to finish right time if it's just it's a Danny gronk not

1:08:59
exciting

1:09:00
music God not in a brightest right? Yeah,

1:09:03
so it's like a legit like big consoles and stuff. Yeah, yeah, that's fine. What's the collaboration process been like

1:09:09
with Yuri the music producer? Yeah, I'm with my Mike's great he's funny he's a funny guy. So he's funny to write with. It's like it's not a comedy band but it's like silly I guess so. But it's not like

1:09:21
we slow down

1:09:23
as that we're down all originals as well. them for the blink one or two vibes in that song apology. And then you're He's great. He's he's done heaps and heaps of stuff. In the past. He did a lot of TV stuff like, Oh, you like full front tools and fun. And he did. Like all the parodies on the footy show and stuff. I bet I'm not saying he's best stuff he did. He did a lot of things, songs to shows would know like, we can be heroes. And

1:09:53
personally, actually, I don't know if he didn't.

1:09:56
He's not a Hey, Bashir that is makes it seem like everything, every cool Australian person he's done. But he's had his hands in a lot of stuff. And he's great to work with as well.

1:10:05
Have you thought about after radio? What? Because you and I used to have conversations every year around like, I'm going to do this next. Like I think you've sort of got a heap of momentum at the moment with all the Christian O'Connell staff with iTunes podcast, and Wikipedia coming out, say, what do you think about like jacking? 20? I was gonna say 2015. That's right, bang, 2020 2525.

1:10:37
Like do you think about like, would you eventually like to live in your house in Melbourne reading books, or the tax free haven? Yeah,

1:10:48
what is that? Well, I

1:10:50
think we'll live in Melbourne. I'll just love it so much. I didn't. For a while. I love the idea of going to New York and trying to live in New York and see if we could make you laugh every day. But I think we just we really like it here. So even if I wasn't working on Christian show. I would still whatever I was doing. I think we would I would try and do it here. Yeah.

1:11:11
And what what type of stuff do you consume? What sort of content outside of podcasting and stuff? What do you go to? on your phone? Yeah,

1:11:19
I'm on audio books at the moment.

1:11:23
But he needs that password. Oh, gotcha.

1:11:25
Now. That's why I've got mine. on myself. So what have I got?

1:11:31
Yelp. How often are you using Yelp? That's definitely one to go. Yeah.

1:11:36
So this

1:11:38
is Dale Bryson taking it's called sued for copyright.

1:11:43
This is an audiobook app. That's like so you can get audio books from other places because I tell you already audible This is my main hundred percent concern with him. DRM. No, you can't download from you find the books. Like you can't search a book and buy it. Okay, that will fix. Yeah,

1:12:00
I mean, Isn't that obvious? Yeah. I mean, we blog on on your computer to your Amazon account. And

1:12:06
what I appreciate is that whoever you always talk as if they're watching which I appreciate

1:12:11
it.

1:12:12
So if you are watching from Audible, please I don't leave just been listening to the ones Josh had already done all that. Yeah. Is it all nonfiction though? Yeah,

1:12:22
so How to Win Friends? Well, I'll tell you that I keep a list now of books that I've read. So I can just if I want to recommend them, I can go back to and I'm going to go to tell you about the books I've read

1:12:32
or you need to do this Josh get a quick list. So you can just quickly search. What do you have?

1:12:38
I can just order ball. I can look at order by the

1:12:40
way you buy so many books that are on Audible now. Yeah, we're actually going to list Yeah,

1:12:44
we like a wife. I did sign or something. Yeah, you will. Who are you with? made

1:12:49
up this? Yeah. Yeah,

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it's

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anti phone and

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we fucking

1:12:57
find a lot of businesses today.

1:13:00
also given some a free kick. Thank you.

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Yes. I wrote a brilliant Australian.

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strong, strong company out. Remember, I read the over summer education, a Karam of the author's name, but it's her life story about growing up with her father was a Mormon.

1:13:22
Just a dedicated moment he grew up, they all grew up really believing every word of God. It was really interesting. And he was also turned out to be a bit of a psycho. I read Andre agassi's biography, which Christian O'Connell recommended to me because I don't really care too much about tennis but that he was pretty hot. He

1:13:40
was on the ice.

1:13:42
Oh, yeah. He was in first long it probably as long as you

1:13:45
think

1:13:46
like it wasn't like that makes you think that like I every time I saw him playing a couple years and I saw that he was in between tournament's Patty. Yeah. But he's, His hair was always fake. So like he had we gone for most of these early days when you same with the mullet. That is a great book. And this first the opening chapter especially is awesome.

1:14:08
Anywhere a mallet on a week just

1:14:11
to eat cookie, is

1:14:15
why would I have? Yeah, yeah.

1:14:21
But why would you get like we had

1:14:23
a week but why would you get a month it must be really good.

1:14:28
Now I'm SAS on everyone who has a Mala.

1:14:32
mala give it a Yang and TV, a TV watcher.

1:14:37
Because we didn't have a TV for the last couple of months, and we just put it in while we just moved into our new place after we renovated and

1:14:49
I just haven't got back into the hang of it. I've also had the mind we don't have anything to watch Netflix so you gotta do the thing. We plug your computer in, watching onto the screen. Bank has been watching NSA and a little bit of it whichever really liked which was Bob with Mrs. maison. Have you heard? I've heard it's on amazon prime. And it's about it's about this lady in the 1950s who starts doing stand up comedy. It's scripted show, but it's really good. Do you still do you watch the Simpsons or anything Mikey on his podcast talks about his love. For the Simpsons. It'll always be my favorite show, but I haven't watched it and

1:15:24
he and he adamantly refuses to be called Smithers

1:15:29
and goes a funny word that Yeah, I thought it was the daily talk show everyone. Hi, the daily talk show.com if you want to send us an email that is jack, playing that music right now. Level sounds fantastic. Do you want to just do maybe a bit of a closer for us while I'll give you the headphones so you can really get

1:15:47
the experience going.

1:15:50
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