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It's a daily Talk Show Episode 721 recorded during our 24 hour live stream and this one is with Lucille McCart, the APAC associate director at Bumble. And she has some great insights into online dating, what's working, what's not, how to open the conversation, gender stereotypes. It's a great conversation. I hope you enjoy this one. This is with Lucille McCart.

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Lucille MacArthur, welcome from Bumble, Australia. You're the associate director, APAC, PR and comms so people using Bumble more being in ISO Sorry, I've fucked your audio. Give me two seconds. And this is not so good standby. I told you didn't know. Hang on.

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There we go.

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Sorry about that. Lucy. Oh, so yeah, that's perfect. Perfect.

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I was I said something really smart when you

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missed it. Can you try and rip? I know it never sounds this second time, but yeah pepper using people using Bumble more in ISO.

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Yes they we've seen a lot of changes in the way people use the app globally we've seen a 26% increase in the volume of messages sent to people talking more than the chat platform exchanging a greater number of messages between matches so those taxations going on longer, and 56% increase in video chat so people are doing virtual dates over video chat in the app has really skyrocketed that wasn't really something that was part of people's routines before because they probably just wanted to go and get a drink or go for a coffee with someone and meet them in person and when you can't do that you have to find other ways to keep that connection.

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Lucille I'm out of the game have been for quite some time. I remember when I went I'm competitor. I sort of dabbled a little bit. How much has it changed? Since you've been with the company in terms of what the capabilities of a dating app? Ah,

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I think it's come all of the technology available has been has come such a long way since dating apps first were introduced in Australia. But along with that, I think they're just part of, you know, what people in their 20s and 30s and older do as part of their routine. Now, it's a small part of our culture and society, but things like video chat with testing within the app that, you know, wasn't really possible before we introduced that six months ago, we actually introduced it as a safety feature so that you could see the person that you were talking to before you decided to give them your number or go and meet them. It's obviously taken on a whole new use case in these environments. But I think that's something that, you know, the industry evolves so fast, and I think this is something that will probably people will keep doing. Because you know, it is a really good stepping stone, you can you can save yourself a few, maybe a few bad dates, if you can, you know, check that connection with someone before you make them because, you know, you get on a video call with someone and you know, immediately if the badge that you had over text is going to translate into a face to face interaction. And so it's so much easier to know, okay, you know, maybe that person, you know, better off as a friend, or no, that person is definitely someone that I want to get to know better in a romantic sense.

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Yeah, I mean, Mr. 97, he has just started dating someone. He has a girlfriend. She's based in Perth and 97th in Melbourne. They've never met face to face. I mean, I feel she's real. She's real. She's real. And so that's always a good first step. I mean, that shouldn't be. I mean, it's a non negotiable, isn't it? That they're real. But I think that if that's the case. So do you have any? In your role? I guess you get to hear a lot of stories about the sort of digital relationships. Do you have any tips for Mr. 97? on how he can sort of navigate this?

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Well, how much? What what base point always starting from this level of advice, because I've got some general tips for how deep Do we need to go? 97 Go for it.

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Well, I mean, so we've, it's been it's been about about 20 days, since we not counted dieting. Yeah, hashtag Nakia. Yeah. That's cute. But no, we've we've just, we've

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been spicy. You don't tell us when we tell you when you cute? It was cute. We've

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Yeah, so we've we've been, we've been facetiming and stuff. And so that that's, that's been fun. But yeah, I guess what have you seen any sort of common themes through people using like video chat or Bumble to sort of not only meet people, but sort of like sustain the relationship without seeing each other in person?

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Yeah, absolutely. I mean, no one has much to talk about right now, as you guys have probably discovered 12 hours into it. So, you know, if you're just chatting with someone, you really need to be able to find ways to get to know each other better. So it's about trying to mimic a real life date. So where previously you might have taken her out to dinner. Maybe you can follow the same recipe, cook the same thing together at home, or, you know, make the same cocktail, drink the same bottle of wine and listen to a playlist like share your Spotify. playlist together. Just think about what those real life experiences that you enjoy are and see how you can do that virtually because when you when you start to come up with those sort of creative ideas that can be really fun. I actually

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love that look, I think I've been of the, the age where I think, you know, I want that spark in real life on a meet them, which is you know, I ended up with my wife, but I I feeling like I understand it a bit more with just this, you know, isolation and leaning into that sort of weed feeling that I think everyone's having about, you know, communicating via online and video chat. And I and it's almost it's Yeah, I feel it's it is the new I haven't I mean, I haven't stumbled there's no exclusive Bennett around here, Josh, but I feel like I'm starting to understand it. We're starting to understand this shit.

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But I mean, what are you what's the what's the company line on? sexting, like is Bumble like is sexting thing that you can do on on the app, where do you draw the line?

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Well, you know, if you're two consenting adults doing that in a safe manner, then you know, whatever it takes to to keep, you know, you sane during these very strange times, we've got very strict policies around, solicited, you know, sharing images. But yeah, they're definitely and if they're unsolicited. We've got technology in the app that blurs photos when they're sent between users and detect if they're lewd images, and gives you the image the option to report it if you if you don't like what you say. But if, if it's consensual, you can opt in to say that and you can, you know, enjoy or not enjoy or you know, whatever the result might be.

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TJ I feel I know we do one for one, but I feel like this woman Have a roll with this subject. Casey says, JJ, do you consider sexting texts? Or images? I mean, Lucille, what do you think? What do you what do you sort of define sexting?

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Well, I mean, sky's the limit, really. But I think, um, you know, it might what might start out, as you know, a bit of bloody Banta, I think is always a good sign that a relationship is developing in a healthy way. And if you want to take it to the level with photos or videos or whatever it might be, I think the advice would just be to do that in a safe way as possible. Yeah,

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sure. Let's talk data that gets me going. Oh,

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that you're you're saying

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these days just tell me the numbers. Tell me the numbers. What have well in terms of understanding numbers, but like, how is the app tracking What people open with? And is there some kind of common phrases that he's almost getting that next level of access? I know, Bumble is they need to be accepted in. You know, it's like the girl makes the first move. But is there a theme that you see? Are you able to create some killer? Are you just asking for the best pickup

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lines?

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Oh, absolutely. But not for me. Not for America.

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Well, yeah, so women have to make the first move on Bumble so the match pants can't stop. Can't get going until the woman has has started the conversation. So we have conversations startup prompts in the app. Some other really successful ones at things like we're Ross and Rachel on a break. Yeah, that gets really fast. You know, pineapple on pizza, yes or no all those really classic things. Regional radio

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content

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people what they want, right? And what performs terribly. Ladies, if you're listening is just being like, Hey, you know, like, put a bit of effort in like, ask the question, use their name, you know, make it personal. But guys as well probably need to be a bit better at making it easier. Like if you've got two photos on your profile and no bio, it doesn't really give anyone much to work with. So it's about making sure that you're, you know, you're giving them a great starting point.

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I just had a regional radio days I remember when the competitor, Bumble was around and Lucy Bumble, the Tigers It was 12 hours. This was pre targeting days. I remember it was like a real common theme

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retired

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three weeks ago. dies like I actually

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know exactly what you're talking about

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what is the free target King dice sorry

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it's just a modern day reference

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posing with target

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but pre Tiger King Day was like I yeah I got it but number five for 2020 bit pre bit you sounding yeah anyway sorry that's not

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what I got on your profile you can do better I'm sure you can do that

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what what makes a great bio

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great bio is funny if you you know are funny person like that's the best way to you know get a girl's attention is

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funny like 97 in

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the comedy should he play it just a completely sort of strike real serious?

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Yeah, if you are not funny, then just stick to the facts. What

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what you enjoy something that's easy for them to you know, ask you a question. Oh, get going? Yeah,

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yeah, I just want to throw in a hypothetical. Do you think this would be a good opener within a conversation? nachos cane Wah or no cane?

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A very controvert I think you definitely get a response.

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I can't say

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have you ever had Yeah.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah. I'd have some follow up questions mostly where he would Why

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Why? Your boy explain the why.

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It's just a fill it out like you're putting in veggies like sweet potato and pumpkin and stuffing grinding in it. And so the cane was just like, yeah, it's a good luck to you notch notch.

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Yeah these days. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you want to fill it out

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crazy. Even have

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melted cheese when he made us his, his nachos Kansa. And he's like, oh, one last thing. And he goes and get some cheese and just great a little bit on top. I'm like, Oh my god,

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I don't know what you're eating but it's not my job.

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And so you so when when you joined Bumble, what was your relationship status and has that been impacted with the type of job

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I was single when I started working at Bama, I'm still single, I don't know what you might want to draw from that. But I definitely use the app and I've noticed a lot. A lot more people on there now really, like wanting to talk more, wanting to have like everyone wants to talk about, you know, locked down in isolation, but then I feel like a conversation moves to something more, I guess, like what you would call as a more authentic conversation a bit faster than maybe you would get to that kind of stuff. Normally because normally you you maybe save the the big talk for a date or in person conversation

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with all the ISO stuff. How's your screen time going?

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through the roof? Yeah, shame.

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Yeah. Well, what do you what are you spending your time on what at what apps?

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All of them mindlessly it's like you know, some you know, when you open your phone, and then you're all 15 minutes have gone by and you don't know what you've done. I'm very mindful of the moment. And yet a lot of Netflix, a lot of Spotify, a lot of Instagram, of email, you know, all of the work work stuff as well. And Bumble, obviously,

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yeah, I wonder what the like the most time spent in app on Bumble would you know that

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I think it varies a different like, certainly the busiest day for us is Sunday, or it has been historically I think that's when everyone's like, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna think about what I might have done over the weekend and I'm going to set myself up with some some dates for the week. And normally, in the evenings are most active time so Sunday evening, if you're looking for a match, that's the time to get on Sunday, Sunday.

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JJ, it's like

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two bottles of wine sad on Sunday.

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And you want to find some companionship? There's no such thing as bad PR. Is that still a thing? Like is a bad PR for a brand like Bumble? Oh,

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yeah, there's that bad bad PR is definitely possible, I think but every brand I think that saying probably has some merit in the sense that you It depends what you're looking for. Right? If you just want everyone to know who You are and you don't care what they know you fall, then, then the same is true. But if you want, if you stand for something or if you have a really clear business message that you want to communicate, then absolutely bad PR is a problem if it gets your message wrong, even if it's not overly negative, if it doesn't communicate what you want to say correctly, then it's not serving you.

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What do you think about adding people on other social networks once you've met on Bumble, so when 97 you know, started split talking to his girlfriend before it all sort of kicked off. I was like, Hey, have you seen these green coils? Can

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we just do context on on on what it was? So we we had a show phone number that we were texting our VIP listeners through and so that's, that's where I started.

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And so that's where it started. And the problem was that because it was like a commercial phone number. We were paying per text message. And so we got a huge phone bill. And we just said 97 I'd have to take this on to you your personal stuff. And so that's how it started. But I I'm curious as to I straightaway said says you got to be googling just for even content just for just to know like, what to talk about, like I you know, she posted that she was at this festival in 2010. Let's weave that in. what's what's your take on the this sort of, not the stork I don't like using that word, but doing a bit of research, and then added context and adding,

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like normal to do a background check. Totally, totally acceptable to just do a bit of research, you know, as as it might be, you can actually link your Instagram to your Bumble profile, which really will help your map potential matches in in their background research. But yeah, it's totally normal,

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mutual connection like they looking at like, if you had a Blue tick if you're verified with that, do you think that people who are verified get more sort of, you know,

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the blue tick on Bumble actually means something different to what it means on Instagram. So if you have a blue tick on Bumble, it means that you've used our photo verification software. So you've verified that you are who you say you are. It's anti capping technology. But your blue tick on Instagram, which obviously is a very different thing doesn't carry over so you know, maybe that's in your you better put that in your bio, you know, had a blue tick. That's a conversation starter.

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I mean, it gets my attention. Blue takes

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a tick and when he got a blue tick,

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absolutely not.

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Yeah, I was Yeah. Okay. Well,

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you're being nice.

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I was just a little humble about this. We've we've had a bunch of blue ticks blue tick is on the show. We got one after you. Yeah. I haven't played you.

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Yeah, we're friends with blue ticks, but we're not blue ticks, you know? Yeah.

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Exactly. We can.

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Yeah. Yeah. We could put Yeah.

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And, and so are you is Bumble like a distributed workforce? Or how does it work from like a working day to day especially with all the COVID-19 stuff?

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Yeah. So our head office is in Austin, Texas, which is fantastic place to visit if you've ever been there.

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Did you? Have you done your work trips in?

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Yes. So the hive as we call it, Bumble HQ in Austin is amazing. It's very yellow. And very, it's a like, if you can picture Bumble as a workplace. It basically is the brand come to life. Our CEO, Whitney wolf herd was really instrumental in design. adding it to make it a really empowering representation of the brand and like an amazing place for people to go to work every day. So that's where a huge amount of our team is based, they'll obviously working from home at the moment like everyone else. And then our team is part of a regional office based in Sydney. We've got other teams in other places like that around the world, like Mexico, India, Germany. So we've got five people in our team here based in Sydney, but all working from home at the moment, but we're a digital business. So and because we're a global business that has always had to be connected digitally to the other offices around the world. It wasn't a huge leap for us to have to work from home. It's just obviously, you know, not great for the productivity but but not we're very lucky in Australia. So it's not nothing to complain about.

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I love a good work perk. And I can imagine that a company like Bumble that actually, you know, it seems to be one of the tech companies that is doing really well. What are some To some workbooks that you're getting

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work perks you know free Bumble boost is a good one. And very nice you know you can see who swiped right on you really real time saver. But from my work from a job perspective, just the exposure to so many amazing things that are happening around the world. You know, I've been to Austin, I've been to Singapore, I've been to Salt Lake City, Utah. You know, some really amazing places and experiences and people that you get to work with that you know, you would never get in another job.

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He's Bumble big in the Mormon community like what was happening in Salt Lake City.

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We had a conference there

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that Yeah, probably why not? Yeah. To meet someone somewhere.

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Yeah, definitely. I just wonder about like, Are there certain interesting niches or sort of like industry like what are the sort of find out the top industries of the types of people like if you're wanting a marketing and comms partner like is this is this the is the platform if you if you want to trade their tradies on Bumble, like what would you have those details,

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all type all types of people on Bumble, we just hit 4 million users in Australia. So there's a lot of people on the platform and when you have, you know that volume of abuses is very diverse. So if you're looking for a tradie, or if you're looking for a, for a marketing executive, I guarantee you could probably find both

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and match with them. If you say, pick up the crack.

22:35
I think I think Bumble has done a great job in in differentiating itself from, you know, its competitors. They're like Bumble BFF or bumble bees. What was the idea behind sort of launching those products and having these different avenues of communication for people?

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Yeah, so Bumble BFF, both of the third, second and third modes of Bumble launched, they came back quite organically from the way that we were noticing people use the app. So BFF, launched about two years after Bumble launched as a dating app. And it was because we were seeing people on the platform, using it to find friends, because they might be like, Look, I met someone on this app who's really great. But I met some really amazing people. And I want to keep using the product, or they will like I'm in a relationship, but I just moved to a new city of anyone and I made a way to meet people. So that's how the idea was born to sort of create a specific mode for that kind of connection. And then as CEO, Whitney, who I mentioned before, ended up hiring someone in Austin that she connected with on Bumble BFF, which sort of sparked the idea of, well, there's actually nowhere online aside from like LinkedIn to meet people near you, because LinkedIn is a is a global platform, but everything about Bumble is geo targeted. So it's about meeting someone Who's potentially down the road from you who could be a business connection. So it was about trying to create a place online where people can do digital mentoring and digital networking and all those sorts of things that there wasn't really a space for that.

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LinkedIn.

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So I was just gonna say, imagine if you get dropped into this conversation from 100 years ago into just trying to do it, let alone a pod.

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Or Bumble, and she loves loves it. Really,

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that's just like, I mean, it makes sense. I mean, when I

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doubt she was like, is he downstairs?

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Right now? Like,

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she's like, yeah, I'm confusing. It's not like your order. You know, but you don't Want to get them confused your Ruby rates with Bumble Just some guys? Will guys just give you a burrito and you like come on in I

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love you but we're not.

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The LinkedIn gets criticised by a bunch of women for being a bit of a cesspool for sleazy execs who loves getting into the, the DMS or whatever and, you know, messaging. What's the going into the business side of Bumble? How do you avoid it getting into that weed sleazy area where it's like, Oh, is this work? Or, like, is this a thing?

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Yeah. I mean, like LinkedIn is a great platform. And it has a really great use case. But that is definitely a problem that I think almost every woman on there It has encountered at some point. When it comes to Bumble, the three modes date BFF, and beers are all totally separate modes within the one app. So you have if you were to sign up to all three, you would have three different apps. files and you would. So you could potentially say the same person, you know three different times because when you're in date mode you're matching with other date users. And when you're in BFF, you're matching with other BFF users and so on. And we're very clear on that of what those modes are for. And you know, if you are in busy mode, that is not a place to recruit a date, if you are looking for that you should be over over here, not over there. And it's really about making that very clear through the way that the product is presented as well like these looks a bit different. It looks you know, your profile is more of a sort of resume style. It's very clear. What is the purpose of connecting there, and as well as that women using beards can choose to connect with good to be able to match with men and women or just women if they're just looking to network with or be mentored by women.

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We're talking manners before with Mr. 97 I caught him licking knife, and you know he's at home. I do what I want, but I can't lick your knife. He said what? Because I hurt my tongue? Absolutely not.

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That's not the reason.

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I mean, but that's a whole nother discussion. What about first date? Who pays?

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The first day? I think he split the bill. I mean, in my mind, I think it's very a traditional thing. All the person who asked the person out can pay, you know, whoever initiated the day is like one way to do it as well. But like,

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I think all girls are playing on Bumble. All the girls.

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Exactly. If you've met if you've made the first move, you know, you put yourself out there why is it that it's not the role of a man or woman to do anything? That's particularly you know, nothing is set in stone like that anymore. I think we we play into these gender stereotypes that don't mean anything. You know, why? Why does it have to be that way? I think You know, split the bill.

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What comes to actually? Like, what was that? Sorry?

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I pay for the first day you pay for the second day.

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Yeah, but I mean, if you weren't lucky, you're lucky. It's almost a little bit. Look, I'll pay for this one if we have a second one. I don't know. The intentions of that one. Lucille. Is there? Yeah. Because otherwise, well, cuz otherwise, you're sort of like, Hey, I know the second date didn't happen. But here's my BSB and account number.

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That's me $35.

28:37
Plus places to go for your first date. Mr. 97, we actually did a whole campaign with the shameless podcast back over a year ago, where we sort of allowed them to pimp him out to their community. And, and he went on a couple of dates with a little bit of Resistance but he went into it and so you will explain those days what were the different dates

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well so the the firt The first one was a walk in a dog park so I brought my dog and she had her dog and they had we all had a little play diet at the park and then we went to the supermarket and got some food to

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talking like you're in trouble you're just going really?

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Yeah that's it Yeah, so we got some food and then we then we went back to her place and cooked up somewhat top wraps I think it was Yeah.

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So that was nice did it for this he copied and pasted that for the second

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and then this and then the second one was similar just minus the dog and we made pizzas instead

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the probably real dumb healthy pizzas using like some form of like

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yeah King well avocados on them.

29:57
Yeah. Oh, So but then how about this? There was there was a drive thru what like explain that one sibs drive in so not the drive thru?

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Or the drive? Yes well so we we went in we went and picked up Nick it was pouring and so we went and got pick up Nando's and then we went to the drive in cinema and watch spider man.

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Oh, that's nice.

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Yeah, I think that's cute

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in the room. Oh yeah.

30:34
Yeah, we can do it. Should we should we do the rounds saves? Just checking the temp What do you rock? eliminate?

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What about you, TJ?

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Yeah, I go extra hot and talking as if you're just catching

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those sorts of your basting. If you're Nando's basing of choice. We sort of do this bit where we check the temperature in the room. If you go to Nando's what basting are you going Oh, okay. Hi, what's, what's your go to?

31:07
Um, the chicken tenders with the colossal salad.

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Yeah, you should try to do like alumi

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Well, yeah, the halloumi

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do the Hillary paedo, which is really good. They've got it's got like this honey. Like this Honey, you sort of I don't even know how to describe it. But basically, by the end of it, it's all at the bottom of the pocket. And you sort of we've ended up getting into foot, we end up talking about food a lot. So I'm sorry about that. TJ, did you have a non food question? I kind of just I want to do the cuisine. I want to the cuisine question kind of the cuisine. Oh, yeah. Go that was okay. Lucille, if you could have one if you can only ate one cuisine for the rest of your life. What would you eat?

31:54
Italian. Okay.

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It's a classic the end. So

31:59
thank you. I you've like a Yeah, a board you've got the cured maze. Very versatile.

32:07
That's good. If you could go,

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we could blow out. There's lots of different ways, right?

32:11
It is safe food every now and then.

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A lot of diversity and then talion many

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it's actually true. That

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Italians a very good one.

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Yeah, yeah, I mean food chat is reliable. Is it okay to open the food chat on the Bumble do you think?

32:30
Oh, highly recommended everyone. Everyone's got an opinion on it, you know? And food, music, all those kind of things where everyone has a taste, you know?

32:40
Well, actually, vista 97 when he started talking to his now girlfriend grace, I put together a list of questions says can you bring up some of those questions? Say I gave him 60 questions because he's this two types of people. There's there are the reactors and Then they are the generators. And so it's a sort of a radio term. And so the generator is the person who comes up with the idea and all that sort of thing. And then the reactor is someone who can get right into it and have fun with it saves isn't really a generator. And so it just sort of when it comes to conversation, it's it's requiring a lot from the other person. And so I generated these questions and service can go through the list and you can tell us what you think we sell.

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Okay, well, so this is this is from the firt there 60 of them. I'll just take a few from each lot. The first one was, When was your last boyfriend?

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What No, no, no, no, I don't know

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what you're doing.

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I don't like nods. No,

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this is this is fair. These are the lists of questions. Interesting.

33:53
much further down the line. Exactly. And

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that's the whole thing. That's That's why he's stitched me up is because they Just do can you just do the first 15? Just real quick? It won't take long.

34:03
Yeah, that was okay. All right. First one is if you had to live anywhere outside of Australia, where would you live? The second is what's your favourite animal? And why

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can you go bit third is

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to answer them you Is that what you're wanting? That's Yeah,

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I mean, we can but I can

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go rapid fire rapid fire and pick

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the best one. Okay. Great public club. No,

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we just go through them. So so

34:34
so okay, sorry. So, so hard to sleep when travelling on a plane. Where's the furthest you've ever driven? Do you get motion sick? If so, when was it the worst hotel or Airbnb, city or country living? If you had to pick a meal for me to eat at your favourite restaurant? What would you pick? When was your last boyfriend? Favourite Australian celebrity? If you could be a pro athlete, which sport would you pick? If you had to pick a different career which would which Would you take winter or summer fashion?

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What do you think?

35:05
I like those questions. I think they're good. Thank you. They said, you

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know, we

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not saying that that's what that is.

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I know I genuine they did. They did help. I think that was that was great because it opened a bunch of dialogue and you end up you know, you end up talking for ages as you go through the list. And so I think it was, yeah, that was really helpful.

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And then you sort of go down the sort of track of like, so where the questions go in sort of around the 30 to 40 markers you start asking things like a bank huddle cold at night. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Life Insurance go. No, it's things like

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it stuff around like I do. Where do you call when you sleep? What's your love language?

35:53
Do you wear pyjamas or whatever when you say Oh,

35:55
yeah, it's a

35:56
little bit sexy. You know, anything can happen. Yeah.

36:01
I Love Lucy Lucille Feel free to use that. We continue those. Oh, yeah.

36:08
All right for the um, little pre sending them in the app.

36:13
Yeah. I'll have a chat today. The product team, you know, great. Yeah.

36:19
Definitely something we can incorporate.

36:21
Yeah, I think it'd be great collab. I mean, we've got the gronk. Yeah. I mean, Casey was saying that she's just setting up her bio right now. She's filling it all out. She's just in the YouTube comments. That's right. Yeah, perfect. I mean, what is this a bit of a different Friday night? What have you been doing the last few Friday nights?

36:43
Well, I haven't been on it on a live stream like this before. But Friday nights have been looking pretty boring lately. A lot of watching movies sometimes made my mental walk to the end of the straight look at the pub.

37:03
So yeah, everything was gonna be quieter than usual. So, but this is been very exciting.

37:10
Oh God, we thank you for coming on. It's 12 hours through for us and we've managed not not to be too offensive. I think

37:21
you've got a long way to go. What?

37:24
Yeah, right kind of off.

37:28
To push back. This is I mean, that's the other thing, sibs. I mean, what do you think about pushback and banter? And obviously, the game isn't necessarily great things like negging and that type but what do you think about sort of the fun banter? Do you have any sort of rules or your own sort of personal opinion on how to have good banter without just being a complete asshole dick? Yeah.

37:55
I think it's about timing you know about you know, maybe not going into heavy Too soon with that kind of humour and just like slowly testing that person's boundaries and whether you think you share the same sense of humour because, you know, people's sense of humour and people's tolerance level for you know, boundaries is very different. So I think just, you know, start small and see how it's received and go from there.

38:21
I think that's spot on that All right, well, enjoy. What are you gonna watch? If you got something that's in your queue on Netflix? What's it gonna be?

38:30
Did you guys have any recommendation?

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It's gonna be

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after life with them.

38:38
Yeah, I mean, I watch that. I mean, it's

38:42
a big seek. It sounds to me. It's sorry. Yeah, watch that on Netflix.

38:50
Right. Yeah, the big stick is really good. You should definitely get around it. Thank you. All right. We're going to I'll go see you in the green room. Thank you. Yeah, so you went to second just walking over now.