#405 – The Bullsh*t Tax/
- July 26, 2019
It’s Fat Fridays and 3D-Dyl has brought a surprise order back from the city! We take a deep dive into what it means when you undercharge for your work and how to factor in the bullshit tax, dealing with weight and mental health, and how we can become more observant and empathise with others.
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show we discuss:
– 3D-Dyl’s Fat Friday surprise
– Undercharging, and valuing yourself
– Weight, mental health, and insecurities
– Observing thoughts
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It's a daily Talk Show Episode 405 happy fat Friday. How are we? I'm very excited three day deal has we sent him out yet? And he's brought back. So he's the challenge bringing up putting it on my gun. I mean,
wow. So I came upstairs this morning and I said to deal, he's my card. He's the big media company. Can you filmed that saying, did you make sure that you the card numbers weren't actually facing? Yeah, I had my finger over the back of the cards that you can. Anyway, I said, Here it is. I need you to go out and get us fat Friday's food. So we've been working away. Yeah. And What's he done? He's brought back some food. I said go to the CD and get this and he's brought back his bags. So either he is literally just stood at the front and got over
the place and but let's just take it all that so we don't care at all.
It's very there's some sauce on the edge. So I said to him a piece of that looks like like baby ship
baby shit that's discussed. I think it's must be mincemeat. Okay, so let me tell you we set the amount the limits $80 doesn't mean he has to spend the whole fucking 80 bucks though doesn't it looks like
$80 on the dot Yeah. And we just got a pal below 250 bucks
yes, ready 321 OO laser HSP sama they are indeed. Snack packs end. Some like some like I don't know.
But it's I have no
yes or no no, it's called pita bread. No, it's it's a de PIDE de
There's something oh it's a it's a pineapple pineapple what I said BBQ chicken this barbecue chicken but but affair that's pineapple baby i that is so 3d Joe Who's this who's had a look at
this everybody's got the same I put mustard on mine Okay
Where are the others they were about
give you that the fact you put a lot of mustard on the table I didn't put a lot of mustard the guided here in the daily talk show office because I was thinking today how good with the hell snack Back Bay and read your mind what what have you done? You've gone and got it and
tell me please tell me that you didn't just get over it and stand at the front. No, he just gave it to me in the back guy. Why did you actually go to get this
place called the kebab. Is that up on? In Collingwood? No wooden Hill little Lonsdale Street.
To the city. Why don't I just pass it to me? It's in your head. Thank you. I'm always sad when someone says I want
That one I started why God why is that one that I remember when I didn't say I wanted that one and I got the sheet one I got the spicy, really extra fucking hot. Oh yeah, this has got mustard on it to coconut sugar for you, Joe. Thank you. I didn't have enough already. Um, what do you mean? Nothing? I haven't had talked about sugar in fucking days. How many coconut sugars are in the fridge? That's the problem. And that's his point.
How many were there? It was 2424 Is this yours? Right? It is. Yes. Okay, he's got the Ruby on the gingerbread engineer. I don't know this is an extra 197 years now and to
a soggy Have you saw EIJ after the show. That's fun. That's fun. Can you just slide it over to deal so we can actually take it to him? Yeah, here we go. Oh, that's risky business. It's heavy, heavy, heavy taken over to area very dense.
There's a few folks in here. People
sometimes might want to know we produce heaps of video.
for like, move up to the daily talk show game women doing a lot with setting the high benchmark for the team, but still doing a lot of client work. Here's the thing, right? If you have a business, and you think you have no time to do anything else, you're wrong. And I only say that because we constantly say we didn't have enough time when we're talking about how we don't have enough time to stop and do an audit on a storage thing in this area. But we've had time to add on another two shows at least another three hours of recording then the post production on it, and we make that happen. So it's like you constantly you just gotta challenge yourself right challenge. Why? Why don't I have any time it's because you're not prioritising, but I feel I'm when we started maybe we talked more. I feel like Early Show like three they don't have you listened to early shows of the daily talk show. I've listened to every single episode. Have you? Yeah. And what do we what do we taught early
dies. What were we talking about? A lot of like,
really primitive stuff like, oh, where? Where are we going to take this? What is it going to do? Or? Oh, I had to get up at five o'clock this morning because you were in some place in Europe and Tommy was here. Yeah, it was it a little bit meta just talking about doing the podcast, a lot of bicker. Like really, we're not really bitter anymore. No, but like
a bit of not complaining. Complaining isn't the right word, but a lot of winning, winning. The same thing you gotta winning is actually Oh, yeah, you want to fork.
So what you want me to throw one to you will throw to him and he wants to pass
the time work. That was actually a good throw the thing with client work? Yes. There's a stage where you're quoting, you don't necessarily have the work. Yeah, it takes I think if you're just getting into it
freelancing if you just came to doing your own business, the amount of unbelievable hours and just speaking to people and trying to organise stuff before you even see any money can be sorry, hi, a good way to do it. From the early to end, you've actually helped me now we just do it together. So you still helped me, but in the early days of working out what I should charge, and so there's that sort of game, the early days where you try to convince yourself that you're worth this amount. But I think a good rule I had a I had last year I had a
principal or a mantra or a saying, for every job, I would say, once I'm doing the quote, I would look at it, adding five bucks and then add
another 500 or add just because the thing is, like you get scared about them being rejected or you get scared about them calling you out for that cost. It really happens. But it's also it's because you the I guess the
The Asterix there is it is because you're undercharging at the set, the reason you're adding more is not because you trying to rip them off. It's because you are under quoting. And so where I think that most people want to quote in video production is pre prod. You don't charge for pre production because it's like, I don't have any equipment. Like, I'm not actually filming. And at this point, it's just my Brian and also thinking, yeah, more reason to charge if you're using all your experiences to work out what to do. Exactly. I think you should even be able to, at the end of the project, look at the email exchange, work out how many hours and work out that you should have factored that is, yeah, that's probably a good retro thing. You can't do this from the start because yeah, I think I think there's a there's some principles that you can apply from the start. But I think there's still a piece of work internally that you need to go through and feel the feel the friction that you will feel in engaging in, you know, creative business work. And so, looking back, you should be able to go Okay, that was a
Bunch of back and forth, I put it back a little tax on to it. Yeah, that was finally asked, if you're a pain in the ass client,
you pay more if you're a great client to work with you pay less. And so that's like the value transaction that's constantly happening, but that's why it's good having a retrospective and saying, Okay, this project, and we charge 10 grand for it, but we ended up you know, spending X amount of time over that. What was that? That was Martin Martin of coke, no sugar.
And so next time, you know, okay.
I think most of the time it comes down to communication, you're not if you are
not correctly communicating what you're doing and breaking it down. I don't think that necessarily means always. These are how many days were filming or editing or whatever. I think it's a, I mean, working out how much you charge for things is there's a lot. There's a lot against you. There's a lot of external noise
can rattle you? So, for instance, family, you know, like people who are outside of your industry and second you charge how much for a whole day film? Yeah. So if they're not in the industry and they don't get it Yeah, you know then it will make you question your worth right and so you like what's his name that was on Joe Rogan the really smile on Neville the river river Qantas yeah he's never say that word again. Nothing that was his name. You can say his name. What's his last name rabbit count.
Give it a go Josh replicant
anyway, one of the things that I mean this is a guy who is worth billions of dollars but he but he's a I love the way he thinks and he was just saying, think about what your hourly rate what you want to be paid per hour. Don't look at the like truly sorry. So scrap what the industry actually chat what most people charge How much do you
You want and and what is that fee? And as he's not saying going charge that straightaway, but he's fucking fee per hour is like $10,000 or something and he gets it now, right? Well, it's all it's a value transaction as well, right? So it's not looking at how many hours Am I going to spend, but how much impact Am I going to have on the business? So if that business, if there's millions of dollars on the line of this video being successful, you're not going to charge three grand because it's like the there's a lot on the line for you. So you got to consider all those things. So if this facts up Yeah, I think a great way it's sometimes hard to looking at what what am i worth? I think one way of framing it is, how much is it going to cost? If this thing's backs up? How much is it going to cost their business? How much is it going to cost him resources and then say, Okay, well, that's probably why should charge and they just sort of that man. I don't think that's a bad idea. Yeah, I like it. Anyway. You've been doing all this work with with one client. We don't blacklist very often. They're blacklisted. We
I'd say the name I don't think I really don't want to sign out. I think we said that name.
Not yet Not yet. Maybe we'll do a whole episode dedicated to it. I feel like if it's blacklisted if I can done they done but also I think that the reason why I want to say their name and why
I might bring it looks up as I say, Lucy and the reason why I want to say it is because it's an example of a brand that we've worked with Yeah, that have across like six different people that we've worked with employees, it within their culture, that they treat suppliers, like ass so poorly in regards like cancelling last minute. So if we do be empathetic, anyway, I've been working on this sort of quote and speaking with them and I hadn't got it locked in. And I'd set aside the time worked out the resources, by all means it looked like it was going ahead.
And then it seemed like an excuses to are we going with somebody else it was literally because of something to do with filming at a different
Lock the lock it locked it in No way. No way. It's just a complete paper but it's it like it's the sixth or something time that this has happened. I will say that this same company ripped off one of our quotes that we put in a couple of hours of work. It was a pitch it had all the information but it's my favourite storey is the first thing that we did together. I wrote this so I'm with a fun storey is a fun storey. Tommy, the first thing that big media company quoted for Yeah, was this, this job and I was actually in Barcelona at the time. I put together this pitch. And they the company didn't have many details on what they wanted. Yeah, they're like, we need a quote, we need to sort of, and so we did what some people call it reverse brief, where we went through and we're like, Okay, this is what you need. Yeah. And then we put together price. This is what each video would look like. This is where what we would sort of asking, these are the questions. This is like, all of that stuff. Yeah. Anyway, we gave a
those details they said thanks. And then freeze being co yeah you're all business yeah so this was a big media company a big media company branding and new business my old business was being co was a production company and I you know when my contacted this business had asked for that quote, and so I sent it through through big media company. Yeah. And then I get an email from Josh one a Josh is good night. Yeah, till Yeah. NWA till from WA great film coming. He wants us he's actually just going to spill half till so.
What's the Murray what's the what's the river? Margaret River Margaret River? Yeah, see?
Calm, I've at least got the.com Yeah, but he he does all that region. So he does like minions like that. His son is born on the same day as my, my son. It's so cool. Anyway, so till had moved over from Melbourne and the same company had gone on to till until Do you
Anyone that could quote on this job yeah till says yeah didn't go to Josh because Josh is essays but emails free speaker Yes How about you and according this job so the first time they quoted they were quite though we're hearing from big media company they didn't say the connexion that it was like Brisbane co but what they've done is what they got first being told to quote on was literally a copy and paste from my reverse proposal. But the what I love about Tommy is that he took a phone call with him so I got basically till did the he just said you want this job? I can connect you I said, Yeah, great. And then she emailed me that woman so she emailed me with all the details. And the details were the copy and paste from our document that we fucking had already quoted. And I'm like, this is actually fucking with taking this. I'm going to call this woman straightaway. And I let it sit a little bit. I didn't jump in and say hi, just so you know. If this is this is like okay, just
You know, tell me a little bit about the project. And I, and I got to a point where I was I wasn't trying to trap or anything.
Yeah, it was
just trying to just trying to see how much bullshit that would spit. Yeah. I got to a point was that look, I'm going to tell you that quote that was sent through that reverse brief and it was actually asked, yeah, the embarrassment that came out of this woman's mouth.
You know what you've done. You've you've just, you fact it.
I think that's the industry.
Industry saying 100% fact it. And so, I mean, the great thing was they they, the hilarious thing is they get us to
then it becomes a dialogue because it wasn't like they came back to us. Yeah, on that first one and said, You're too expensive.
They just base it ends, but they then told you that, didn't they? That's right. They were like oh, no, it was just because you got the
big media company was a bit too expensive. And then we're like, Okay, what are we talking here? And we're like, well, let's shift this this that was right. There was so much ambiguity in the whole project that you end up high balling it a little bit to allow for the bullshit to x it Of course, of course. I mean, is it was such a funny learning. And that's a thing in small, same client that factors today. Exactly. That's our episode. Yeah. It's it. We did. We didn't end up doing that other job, by the way. So it was like, it was a big job. It was like an interstate it was in the 10s of thousands of dollars. That actually said yes, the type of company that have 60 day term is ridiculous a and and so part of it is we can't be victims. We make the choice of what we do. And part of part of that is I think it's like a no backwards policy. And I think that if we had a board, I think we can safely put them on that.
Ya know, backwards board. Yeah, the problem is my mate works there and he's a lovely guy. That
knows exactly what's happening. And he hasn't been a part of any of these factories. Yeah. Anyway.
It's a hardware 3d deal. Is this Do they have HSP? In Canada?
Yes. I'm sorry.
I'm just trying to be polite. You
know, we do have them. We don't call them HSP as though what are they called? We just call them swarm us. They're not actually a space that you're saying this chips with made over the top and source. Yeah, she's besides an open swamp. Pretty much. Hmm. Interesting. Like you can get them with Muslims or rice. So it looks the exact same as this. It looks pretty much the exact same. I'll see if I have a photo actually. We can compare. We have a hot man. We have a hot man. Our hot man coming on the weekend. weekend weekend. weekend Banta be Mac. His brother works over in New York lives there. Does he work for an
BI eating his brother. No, he's brother works for Mark Cuban and that's right Matt Jones and NBA team but he works in the the was that a league like the online league? It's cool anyway. Well, we'll hear a bit about that eSports eSports yet and so he he posted a photo because shepherd and we're back from that's where I met him. Okay, have you you mentioned Yeah, I spent a couple of years there working in radio after
anyone? No question. I know that's what I thought I thought I heard Mr. 97 asking question. Yes. Anyway, so we're actually is it where we shepherd and for people who are ne ne a victory of mouth from two and a bit hours, two hours from from him anyway, he shipped in the home of the ashes paint. There's a lot of fuckin IJ restaurants there. That's a classic HSP
it's your body just
trap door to my stomach, and just packing
Actually that's my brain gets when I get indigestion bring actually gets mad at me Do you think that's a fair thing to get mad at indigestion?
I think it's fair if you've got your food is your child and you've eaten obviously too quickly and Brees told you about 70 million times not Yeah, or expensive chocolate is that what you said? Yeah, so don't be pig anyway. He posted a photo he posted a photo on this like a GSB main page or something? Yeah, it did. It was went viral in fucking went nuts. And it was all like the best HSP in the world. I'm travelling from America to get over to find it as that guy that really was really sick. Anyway, we'll find out about it and even food stuff online just does break. Can you go up to Mr. Nice Evans. Mike is very quickly the the Instagram account that you followed and then I'm followed last night. What was that? What was that cold? Oh, it's a hot chips account. The best hot chips in Melbourne.
Actually and they give you all the prizes and the portion sizes it's called minimum chips or something I can find the right link because you've got a minimum order or like a Yeah, so there's literally ships means different. Yeah, so it's minimum chips and so there's just photos of cheated like of chips. There's probably I think the brand followed them because why do you unfollow them? Was it because there wasn't another?
Follow and they didn't follow back
to something and none of it was me. Me so I didn't care about it.
All that area if you're in your room, but it's a very yellow heavy sort of aesthetic. The look Thanks, bro. I tell you what, we feel that our aesthetic yesterday on the inside. A lot of posts and especially one jazzman from model f1 from the gas man model but also one from Thailand.
smashed down to Manchester and yesterday. So basically, we did the reveal of the contents of my stripper box.
Which I mean it was the highest engaged post of me when I was 19 with a much better read than I do now it's sloppy as fuck. Anyway I had that was like that post
with who says six doesn't sell
says 910 year old nipples dead sale because it was 80% higher engagement than any of our other posts. until until funny boy.
Funny Boy, that was my nickname but no so I know I was actually just looking back at photos I've asked Jase Hawkins Yeah, we had on the show at the beginning of the week, I was listening to his show.
And he off the cuff said, I want to start I might start at a gym emerging because I've been saying you should come to the gym with me for so long. Well YJ Sports just because he's fresh Pac Man. Well, you get so upset you I got you back in league Jake does at home.
Ja I said you lock it.
Well, just because I will go to the gym with Jace. Yeah, but
yeah, I think that that's kind of hurt people hurt people. You're upset that I'll only go to the gym SJ stuff. Anyway, we'll put the photo up right on the daily talk show logo right now of what Josh posted was 97. taken it was a little bit later. That's what I was. I was saying to I sent it to Jace as a bit of a like, I this is where I've sort of come from. And there's, if you go to Instagram, you'll see the photo. It's a I've got some blue and white Hawaiian style bodies. Well, you posted this because you said Tommy's photo of him and these brothers got a lot of likes. Firstly, it was not my buyers. Secondly, it was my stripper outfit. I know but I
didn't have a stripper outfit. Sorry. You said so I thought I'd post a photo of me in my baiters from around the same year. Yeah. to outdo his post. hasn't been out done. Yes.
Let me well, so you guys, if you're in Australia, you can't
You're in Canada. Why don't tell how many I can work it out. 18 comments on my photo. So bad comments with 81
I know that's why I'm setting you up to win, bro. Well, this is very rare.
What type it in. So 18 and 18 likes and 81 Sorry, I 10 comments and 81 likes and then funny boy in Thailand, in ease. When we say by this, it's, you're in a full outfit in the water and you have 23 comments and something one of the five wash says it's blown up. It's blown up. He was blown up.
I mean, my brain hated those glasses in that photo, because they were very small. And so with my face it just sort of Yeah, random little I mean, my concern being with this post is I love that it went viral. I love that it went viral, viral. Let's just this is use the term went viral on our page. But I love the long
Your old PT Road.
Glen and then he also mentioned about the time I remember when I ran into you at calls and you were holding full box of chocolate, the look on your face, remember Yeah, definitely remember it. Well, I think I was actually it was around the time where I started doing this 365 day project where I was taking photos of myself and I think I may have been at the supermarket because brain is a tradition every night would go to Kohl's Yeah, and we would get Cadbury chocolate but we would
we could never agree on flavours yet but I thought the classic fucking Aldo paso add on why don't we do both? Yeah, yeah, you end up with what is it?
Now I was gonna say mi casa su casa which is my house your house or something like that? Isn't that what mi casa su casa and she literally say, Yeah, what she says it in Spanish. So she Yeah, anyway, so yeah, the funny thing that's come out of this post of you and I've been thinking a bit about it.
I mean, I stitched you up last week with unhealthy waffle. You drank, they're all being food related. And what I say is that you gotta be honest. It's easy get with Yeah. But it's also your Achilles heel. Like it's well that's, I guess the funny thing about
the far yeah, there's two. There's two perspectives that you could look at it from one of them, which is my default is there like the light haha. Like I have a look at this. This is pretty crazy. But then there is the more sort of not darker side that's not
emotional. I even brace it. She says she looks sad in that photo. I would agree with him in the face. Your chin is actually just a part of you then Nick and then your chest, which is fine, which I think that by not even trying to be mean. I'm just being factual but and that's the thing. And so part of it is
when you've been that way, you always sort of feel like it
That might or there is that feeling that it's going to come back. Like if, if anything, it feels like I'm renting a body now, but that is actually where it's always with renting your whole life. There's a lot of people that can't afford can afford anything else you've taken it very literally I invest in the stock market they just haven't chose to buy a home. That's
right this is it. Anyway, there's a few kind few people that have had this more human thought behind this post right? They're all human. One of them is maybe more emotionally aware. being thoughtful emotions, also considering that like, I think that the default laugh at it Oh, wow, that you is culture that will that's the culture that is the Australian default. Maybe it's also what you've committed based on being like you're, you're like this now, and no one would laugh at you if you were posting photos. However, there's a lot of people who are at the start of
How does it feel for them consuming that content?
I mean, we're all in our own journey. So when you I mean, anyone who was skinny, promoting their skinny ness, because you could say this is just like actually promoting the fact that you lost the fact right away. It's not saying how I did it, but it's just like, this was me. I've changed you can like so you can take, you can look at the positive you can take out of it that you've been on a long mission. I think part of it is I've had a physical change. Yeah. And so we say physical changes, a positive change. Yeah. And there is like a bunch of positive positive stuff to it. Like I worked in some way, some form of balance that over a long period of time I lost weight. But
it doesn't necessarily like there's more to all of it like a there's behind every one of these like weight loss storeys. There's probably a little
lot of anxiety for the future which is I don't want to get back to there yeah and so Goldie gets on a has a friend of mine has written in she said you seem to downplay this time and transition when you chat. Hope you get empowerment from this love hot storeys hashtag vulnerable, which is essentially what you're doing. And then I'm Marianne. She's written warehouses. It's tricky making a comment especially when yc gain and weight loss.
I just pay while we're writing this, it is fat Fridays. It is interesting how people can treat you differently depending on your exterior as opposed to the person who lives within Josh, you've made an incredible change to your exterior and no doubt no doubt he's world to bring you some internal happiness and acceptance but I have a feeling that intangible element that makes you you was always within love the spirit that you are and the crazy hilarious fun you and the boys bring to the world especially at 14 when you shove the squeegee
You're asking you tell that storey you did that bit in
Tommy Jace did the same thing on his show is writing out this really nice message I'm actually good just like you can't fucking I'm really good you couldn't allow something nice just to sit, you
know, but I think that that that's lovely. I think there is a little bit of that I think that the
like everyone's got their own insecurities and that's a concept one that I have so when if my mental health is and greyed yc does become an issue with that means I'm eating more or I'm thinking about it more, or like in that into the friction point.
It's habit breaking I mean so complex because it's just beyond it's beyond the calories. It's definitely there's a I watched the doctor last night else spoken the good word the 50 5050 5050 5050 Iron Man's I men's Iron Man's, an Iron Man race which is three
point eight kilometres swim, hundred and 80 kilometres bike ride and full marathon 50 of those in 50 days across 50 states this book named James and American dude
embarked on this journey. He was the first in the world to do 30 in a year, and that was across six months. I'm guessing it's a full time job at that point. 50 It's like think about the owl, so it's safe. He runs the marathon in four hours being 44 hours he does the swimming two and a half hours in ambassador for anyone, anyone. It was new generation to raise money for the Jamie Oliver foundation. So for obese children, so it's education and
it's a really good thing. I mean, this is the thing he he's a real advocate for, you know, he the way he put it so nicely. There was his mom who ran the last five days. She
Five miles every day up into the end which any said there's a couple of times what's hard for me is doing Ironmen per day yeah what's hard for you is just hard for you it's doesn't mean that it's I'm better it's like we all have our own hard and we're all up against shit the tired and so the person that is the fittest person out there they've got their heart but this we're not comparing it to your house I generalisations I think are interesting right like the other way can get really annoyed at what we would classes junkies that were all over the place and the oldest fucking lot because that will fucking screaming
like on this Saturday around this hood, yeah, it's like oh, they just are all stumbling around they got me they just like it feels like they just
which sounds really bad but like they're in the Why? of the world and this sad. I guess I
It hit me this morning as I was walking in one of those
there was there was someone who was walking who is probably like a drug affected, but that they in class them as a junkie. And I looked and I was like, they just look like sad and broken and they're walking along. And oh my god like that. I had empathy in the moment for them. I'm like, I hope they're, like, okay. But it's, yeah, it's crazy. Because, you know, my, my empathy has increased from doing meditation, understanding that we don't control the thoughts that come into our mind. They're a product of our environment. And we know what we've consumed what we've done in our life and the people around us, but we don't control what's firing, and the people that are running their life off what's firing and can be a fucking dangerous existence, to and a painful
It that and being the observer of your thoughts, you know, if we can't control the thoughts that are being fired, we can observe them and, and hopefully sort of work out what you know, have a sort of a, not even a logical view, but just being the Yeah, just being the observer of what's happening and trying to reduce some of the motion. And so when I look at these people who are in a world of pain, I just, I look at them and I think managing the thoughts firing off in their mind, imagine the pain that they're in which and I think it's you could look at anyone like that you could look at the person that's 300 kilos, 200 kilos, you know, and and,
and that's, that's the sheet that's very hard to rewire remap your thinking around that. Josh Janssen, who was 19, who was 130 kilos and 20 120 heart might
add 10 for the storey.
But I wonder what the How do you be an observer
be empathetic howdy be observe,
but also not have it, control you and your day by using these external. Yeah. So for instance, if you're like, we're all going to die, yeah, but if you look around if I was actually to be connected to the moment in regards to, okay, I'm going to give those people the benefit of the doubt I'm going to put the storey the empathetic storey. I think it's dropping the storey. I think it is the the power of meditation, the power of mindfulness is to drop back to remove yourself from that firing thought, that storey that goes off about that person. Now, it's affecting you. Because we're all just swimming in this fucking world of pain, or you know, a lot of it like you could say so you could look at yourself as you might identify that you don't have this pain, but if you're sort of constantly just
Driven by thought it can be a painful existence, because wins their paint. When is their peace? Yeah. And so if if we're judging people, if we're looking at which we all I think we do it naturally, I think we all try, we just need to try harder to sort of pull back, but we're all going to die like these, like, it's also everyone else. It's like, I love the thought of
the people, you know, the interactions you have, may be the last interaction you ever have with this human, you know, if we're all going to number to us, which is pretty brutal, but it's like, if we've all got a finite number of interactions in this world on this planet, the human interaction, if it's negative, you can't go back on it and adds to the tally of and it's going down. It's like, what's that fucking map? You know, it's like a, it's almost like some someone's built this sort of chart that has the average
which is if you look
That if you knew the number of interactions you'd have with humans moving forward, you think you'd try and make them more positive and more empathetic. And so yeah, it's full on thought I'm missing I seven your clothing today is not
he didn't want to blow it to it. Yeah, so he you're not you've gone back on your rebrand
Well, I mean temporarily, I've just got I wanted to wear my sex shoes because my Achilles were hurting and I gotta go to the gym tonight. So I'm sorry. Just what do you mean your Achilles are hurting? Just the back of your ankle. The lower part is hurting. Yeah. Good. From the other from wearing the other shoes. I don't have any support or anything. So poor baby. Yeah. Well, I think that I think we should definitely, I think there's some I just need to bring up the morality of our page.
watch something about being going viral and now let's talk about so we may have not had he may come second when it comes to the lights on his post yesterday we had a carousel of all the different looks the shoe thing very quickly. It all know how many comments did you get? I attain it. Mr. 97 just clap that and that's that's the price of the way. I personally the way we should do that pressure the way to new thing.
works out the segment maybe Confessions of a gronk
no posted so we're giving it posted the white post of the week goes to Mr. 97. Yeah, we put up a carousel with four photos that we shot on the $10,000 camera.
looks right, by the way doesn't it looks like
it's a high end fashion shoot, shoot shoot for Vogue on that camera. Definitely.
And so we're going to put out the video today the behind the scenes, which Karissa did an epic job of editing Robin gronk Karen absolute superstar
18 year old superstar just killing it and so nice of you wearing something different today. But upon reflection of what people are saying what did you take out of the comments the feedback around your rebrand first man pick some good clothes. I can cry. I'm I'm picked them. I mean she put them on and then she's like, Yeah, that one. Okay, affirmation. Yeah, she'd go in the change rooms with you Mike near the area. Where does she wait? I mean, she'll just I'll go change it. Then she'll just walk around the store looking to see if there's anything else I could try on.
Dawn. How many things did you actually try on the whole store? Pretty. Really? How many you have been there for would have been? It would have been over now. Sock pull block at the at the front? Yes, we dumped all of the closer to go put them on because he's at Kelly's would be fucking burning from an hour of standing in a retail shop. And so you tried on all the
different outfits. You should have landed on a neat. Yeah. A jumper would you call it? That's not a neutral where they turn it another two minutes. Okay, I'm sorry. Tune it's three pairs of pants. A single single pants pant. Do you ever say pants? pair of pants? No, no. Pants pair put your pants on. It's an interesting one pair of pants. Anyway, what's your point of all this? Now we're just we're just recapping if you go to the Instagram thing, and so anyway,
which which outfit do you think is going to become your daily driver?
I think probably the blue jeans and the black jeans would be the ones that you can't wait to jeans at once. You can if you're wearing my struggle with
white so you can Yeah, I'll switch between the blue and the black. Do you reckon Can you return those sand pants?
Yeah, probably what size other 30 3032 or 35
How much further like 100 bucks and have you give me 40?
Have you written the tags off? Yeah.
was my birthday coming up. It's Father's Day too. It's one month away pretty much from my birthday. That's good Father's Day same day. Think about a sep tember 14 is my birthday. Everyone is mine minds first. I'll think about August 20. Is my birthday. My birthday?
is actually what I do you fly out Friday, August 27th.
It's like a month. It's like,
How you feeling about stepping back into life?
back into the real world. Yeah, it's interesting as this film is this felt like you're in some kind of
just feels like a dream. It's like each day I wake up and I go get a coffee. It's like yeah, I'm fucking here right now.
We'll take that snippet and use it in their employer brand video.
Company, it will feel like a drain.
And so what are you most excited about? So I think Bry asked me this last night is a three day deal. Excited to go home. I'm looking forward to see my family again, obviously, because like I do FaceTime. I do miss. Yeah, we have FaceTime. He has to say that. Yeah, I have to say that that's the thing, but also my parent. My parents watch the show, so Okay, cool. Mom, Dad, I can't wait to come back to it. Hang on just quickly, you fucking last night. I'm on in bed on Insta, as you do. And we can. There's someone on the lock train in our profile, and I click on to the profile. It's someone with the last name of torvill, but it's actually a fucking cat. Yeah, what's Rosie doing? Follow? Who's Rosie? torvill Rosie would be my cat. Hello, feed fellow humans I have too much free time on my hands. So I created an Instagram account, who created that the cat did
My younger sisters do it together I follow we said we would follow it if they fall in the cat back I had very good and so what are you most excited about? Other than family I am excited to get back to school and more excited just to finish school like I have eight months I've my thesis to do and I'm looking forward to the challenge of it and because I know it's it's going to be a long challenging expensive eight months
but I'm also looking forward to like being done with school so that I can not get on with my life but do something Sydney chapter yeah i mean if you if you this is the problem with long university courses you're not whether you're not you haven't been weathered for the storm
can't weather the storm so I use that correctly and
that up again, you haven't been conditioned we don't know that. You want as a snippet though. Just in case you missed and I seven any, any admin you're on the emails you actually
Yeah writing back to people when they email us in high the daily talk show.com yeah well Alex she sent in a message about rz food because we asked what food deal with one oh yes what what food we should get deal with very late so she sent through a link with iconic rz food which is got have lover young fish and chips
it's like biscuits make hadn't soft or hard What do you prepare me made them all Yeah, you get any I got one yeah, I had like she talks and but I mean maximising path to great why wouldn't you allow her to make one I remember that was his intention can be a bit sloppy would have had to make that made the night before and baby Amy did mention that she was going to make Pavlova Yeah, she Yeah, she will. Maybe we'll do it on a weekend. Right? Why? Just so we can actually make it on the day so that's nice. Okay, so we're all going to take it on like a Saturday or something. might be something if you're lucky. Maybe two hours away 10 bands, we might invite you. Thank you.
The last one which I reckon would be interesting is was there a fly in front of what we just thought it was not it was a fly okay. Which the grubs what you know there was the bush okay sure
serious I think it's a grind
now we should try all those things
all right it's a daily structure choose for the Fridays will say we can banter paycheck and on tomorrow and then cow and be Mac the band's back together from shepherded yeah if my homies yeah if you if you've listened this far doing in the storey, celebrate us will celebrate you back Wolfpack and Ray Graham and unless you've been blacklisted as a company exactly which we're not saying who they are yet now, will we eventually reveal can we Episode 500 Buddha big sign or something?
Maybe do it at their office. No.
Should I say it and then us babe it out. Now.