#225 – Josh Deleted His Social Media/

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conversation, sometimes worth recording with Josh Janssen and Tommy Jessica Talk Show Episode 125

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Happy Monday.

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That doesn't help the fact that you said 125

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to 25

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I thought it was the excitement level you didn't like

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no no levels great. Even Mr. 97 trilogy on on the mistake but that's why he's he's getting you in front of him. Yeah, he's got the knowledge of someone who has an eight hour of 97 and he's he's got the looks of a 18 year old. I'm still coming off. What is an 18 year old, pubescent, pimply and lacking in the right way to paint a picture? Exactly. indirection people on your forehead

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hasn't got that little thing and we

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got some projects. You had the worst peoples of all time when

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you had one. It's kind of gone down a lot. You had it right on your cheek.

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All right. Napoleon.

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Huertas Napoleon.

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coming down from Friday,

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yeah, well, it was it was a great fat Friday's we've gone through the weekend. Something I said to you this morning, my son, how did you go voting?

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And would you say? Yeah, I'm not a nosy citizens. I didn't have to vote.

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Yeah. So he he missed out on the anxiety that is running the gauntlet at of a voting booth.

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What's it so you are? You're born in New Zealand? Yeah. Born in Oakland. Okay. What's the like when you growing up? Did you feel like not being a citizen? Do you actually feel different? Do you feel as a kid to everyone else?

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No way. Like there's there's there's no noticeable differences, like, of the vision that we have just allows us to live here permanently and work your family? There's no negative in terms of like, it just gets too and when it gets like tax stuff, then it's

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Yeah, it's different. And also you passport you you don't have an Australian passport. Good. Okay, we pass. Okay. So here's the problem that my wife face because Amy, she was born in New Zealand. Her parents somehow thought that was a great idea to go over there to attend some conference. I'm sure there's some. Here she was. They went over there and had the baby there. And then came home with the New Zealand citizen or like a baby that had a New Zealand passport with a religious? Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. Like, I wonder if it's got something to do with that, like just spreading the

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know, I think now we're at some kind of church conference, I could be wrong, I'd be totally missing this. I don't think there are over

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there just to you know, they didn't have a McDonald's for

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that they didn't have that. But they went over for something. And they came back with a child that they clearly knew, because that means mom would have been very pregnant. But here's the thing, we only just realise this because Amy's only just got an Australian passport. So she would always come back in and just go through the motions coming back into the country. But we got pulled aside and they said, Have you got a visa? And here's the thing, if you have a even though you're a US citizen of Australia, okay, so even though you you live in Australia? Yeah. And you not trying to retain a visa every time that you know, like, you've got one to leave here, obviously. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. They said they pulled us aside and they said, you need to go through a separate area in customs because you're saying as someone visiting this country, because you have a New Zealand passport, that's crazy. And so it can be an absolute pain in the ass. And I kept on saying, Let's me get a new passport get the Australian one. She was like, no, it's

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pretty. Fucking. Was that really the Russian? Oh,

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it does look better to say it is a silver phone. It looks pretty cool.

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It does look cool. But we really came on stack when we came back from New Zealand because here's the thing if Amy went back to New Zealand, or went to New Zealand on a holiday, is she coming back to the country? Or is she returning as a visitor to this country?

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I'm surprised. I don't

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know the answer is really confusing. She has to come in as a visitor. So she I think that really I don't think even though she's an Australian citizen.

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Yes. Because our because of the passport.

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Yeah, so there's this. There's another layer of complication,

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but I thought Australians and New Zealanders go through the same area or anyone part of the Commonwealth. But you know how they've got like the smart

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Yeah, the automatic the the facial recognition ones. Yeah.

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Which I can get through that. Which never fucking works for me. Every single time I've tried the maybe it's though. I'm wearing some sort of some form of like pillow, but the like a neck pillow? No, but the glasses. I take them off arc and it's the white loss. Yeah. Yeah. Because I'm guessing they're looking at the shape of my face previously.

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Yeah. You've got an old photo Jaffe pass. Yeah, you show me that giving you an extra

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500 bucks or 2020s. When I run out, I had the goal of by the time my passport expired, I want to have filled every page of my passport. Well, I think I'm over halfway. Yeah, three quarters of the way.

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Yeah. JOHN Safran when I personally trained him. He's done so much travelling with all the shows he's been on. He was telling me he like kept them as souvenirs lost. He lost like two passports that had been filled with all the destinations in been to

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I haven't met an American mate who actually got an insert. I think I can you can get I don't know if this is an Australian thing as well. But in the US, you can get an extra insert so you can hold more yet arena? Yeah, it's like a real like a super fat.

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We're getting extensions.

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As he walks Come on in the no bit.

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Something on that passport thing that I was,

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you think about that, Mr. 97. I want you to type in a name for me and I want you to pull up what you can find out about this bloke.

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That's okay. They say their last name.

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Yeah, yeah. This is 100%. Okay. Okay. So his name is Yep. Dean de na. Ok. Broad belt. br Id be Lt. It's a broad belt yet got him find out what you can about him. And I want you to want to give a bit of a summary.

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Well, why while he does that, my thought on the passport thing. Europe's annoying because I don't stamp your passport. You're in the if you're in the European Union, and he's going from place to place.

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It's all international Fight Night. Yeah. That's when you get stamped into the country. So you're getting stepped into Europe. And then you you turn around. Yeah, yeah.

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So that was unwise.

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Yeah. What about Croatia? Love it. I'm a blogger. Anything else? Nothing else. I did feel for you. And think about you. Over the weekend when I did go to the the polling booth to put in my local member vote. Because so I were idiots. We didn't do it early enough. And we left Saturday, the

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closing day forced admin.

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Yeah, it is 100% for said it was an hour out of my life. It was raining. And I had a child with me and my wife. And we're all you know, we're trying to get just do what do our best to get into put our vote in. He's He's a thing. I could have paid someone to go and do it for me. They don't check your ID know what's with that?

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I'm sure it's probably illegal to do

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that. So then one of my other thoughts was, what if I just didn't, didn't write it off properly. So you you saying that I'm a liar? Or they said that I went, but I didn't go. Yeah. So I actually went, yeah. And you and you actually just went to a cafe close by and have a coffee.

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And you were in the area. Did you go to the absentee section? Or were you know, I was in the official? Yeah, like your local area? Yeah.

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Yeah. Exactly. conspiracy. Jimmy. He's still within the he went to the voting booth where he grew up, which clearly just states that he hasn't changed his fracking address ever. So it's still probably all going he's, he's a he's a house where he grew up. I did that for so many years. I didn't get like I didn't change my address. I had it all go into my parents joint.

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It's that I want to be the guy that the guy that he's organised enough to get his own Medicare card that doesn't have his whole family on it.

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I will I will back up you for not being that guy. And I'll say that the only reason I have become that guy is because I've got a child. It forces your hand on a lot of things. So what already so Amy birdie and I have have our own family Medicaid cat. It's a

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It's cute. I don't think I've been to the doctor like I've probably been other than my ingrown toenail. Now thing which I'm still 50 bucks.

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No understanding that.

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what it was was nice. Just leave that out.

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It was fairly healthy. Yes.

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To it on the tray was just it's disgusting. I wasn't painting a good teacher

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we got through with 18 year olds. Yeah, maybe not.

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Yeah. Okay.

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Don't go there. Listen back to other episodes.

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Well, because I was going to front foot Pun intended and say, Hey, thanks.

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That we could include it. In the title of the show. You said people will not listen, Josh.

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And that wasn't Josh his mouth. Actually, I've become Josh as my accent. But how did you deal with the because basically, there's all these people trying to get your last moment.

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I guess, vote by standing out in the cold handing out pamphlets saying vote for the grains vote for labour, we should reset. What we're talking about here is the state of Victoria had a state election over the weekend for anyone who is not in Victoria.

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They all feel the same. If you've ever voted, and you've been in Australia I don't know what the state is like in the US but you go and leaders hounded by these people. It is the closest thing to walking down a street and seeing a bunch of tin rattlers not the ones What are you going to save? Yeah, like they can't even take donations. Like sometimes I take my money.

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Yeah, like we can't accept donations, we can only take your credit card and we need

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your time. That's basically they say that exactly where you just like I'm crossing the road to it and all them out there, run over the other side, put your head down, walk straight through, act like you're on the phone. So that's that's the feeling heightened, because there's all these people with, like invested interest in taking your time to give you something. And so if you actually just said yes to all of them, you'd walk out with like 20 leaflets, but you

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don't want to say yes to the like, you don't want to say take a piece of paper. And it turns out it's like the paedophiles party. Like you gotta be careful in the sense of, you know what I mean? Like, you know what you mean? Because then people will say that maybe it's like he's taking that because that's how he's going to vote. Yeah.

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And it's it's bizarre and so I hate the height of the whole experience. And I ignored the thing. I am He is the one who was the friendly one. I just opted out. And I just thought it was just minding my own business. I bit my tongue. Oh, actually got an argument last year of the other year with one of them one of the local members in St. Kilda. That's right. was so pissed off my fucking postbox says no junk mail. What the fuck does that mean? And not everyone knows what it means. I say who doesn't know who it means the member for St Kilda and he's fucking bullshit posted things that are in my in my box it clearly says no junk mail. And so I I can't remember what I said. I said something to him when I said I was like, Oh, you're the bloke that put mail in my in my box that said no junk mail I know your face and use the Oh, and I said something is I can't remember what it was but I just got in this

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listen he

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ever disrespect my junk mail sign. But I was like that's a no for me, bro. When you put mail like he's probably paid some business. Yeah, it is interesting. Like I'm I'm turned off businesses that put their mail into my no junk mail space.

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When I was in Abbotsford in the apartment block was leaving. I'm very funny about security, like always looking out for such things. Anyway, I was leaving our apartment block and as I as I was walking out I saw a guy in a suit with a bunch of this was like a year ago with like a handful of leaflet eating type things like he was going to be doing some sort of letter drop.

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Yeah. And so did you mention that you need that security? Like to get into that spot anyway?

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Yeah, you don't it Yeah. You to get to the letterbox you need like a swipe. But yeah, so

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you're saying this blog.

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So he was he was waiting at it. And I did like a real.

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As I was walking out, I sort of do this very subtle thing where I pulled the door closed as I'm walking, but he still managed to grab the door. Geez. I said Excuse me. Can I help you? 1000 Yeah, I said, Excuse me, can I help you? And he said it was a real estate agent trying to do a drop. He said I know. That said I can do it. I said Well, why don't you have a cake? You just gotta wait until people leave. And I had to go somewhere else. Like I can't be fact I joined with this guy. In fact his argument because it might Yeah, if if if you had permission, you wouldn't have to wait for someone to view a swipe. Yeah. And then never gonna do Who? Who offers that as a service? Hey, I want to put junk mail in. Jesus wipe out Yeah, he's just wiper. Did you ever do use paper drops? Yeah,

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yeah, I actually did a bit of a mission. Head bowtie yesterday. And I just doing it on the side now. I'll get there. I had boating I will cruising just around the cat. I was just doing a little mission late. Give them some rest. And so I kind of decided this old circuit of places that I would frequent as a young kid around my old neighbourhood around Brighton and ganda were just driving around. I thought it was but he doesn't even know what's happening. He's just you know, clapping in the back for nothing. You wants to listen to me. But we drove down this little side straight over Fox, Emma. Emma was my questions.

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And then we go yeah,

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I'm doing some. Emma is the yellow legal. Anyway. So we drove down this like side alleyway in Ganga, and it brought back all these memories of when I used to do a pipe around. So so I was young. I was like, maybe grade six will grade six maybe five or get up at like 4:30am 5am conspiracy Jimmy. And we would like Hoon down to the wind down in the box was probably maybe eight minute ride, nine minute ride and get to and I just remember the smell. If you've ever been to a place that wraps newspapers, it smells like oil. It note smells like oil. So it's not where they print it. It's where they roll it into you then throw so but has this really smell of oil and plastic like lots of things industrial glad rap. That's what it smells like. And it's a little bit hot because it's been run through this machine. That's the same so I'll load up and I just it was hard. It's such a good thing to do as a kid. But it's presented like I think about it's probably pretty damn dangerous. But you so young riding around getting paid for Michael. I remember my bike tipped over on my first one. And it was so heavy to get back up and I remember just crying a bit. I guess that's what build build resilience. I mean, the the I guess the 2018 version is kids knocking Would you like a subscription? You're like fucking digital subscriptions for the iPad. Have you? Does your family still get the paper sent to you know, we never we never got it Really? As a family did you? Yeah. I always saw was a bit of a luxury. Like

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did used to get the soft drinks delivered? No.

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Yeah, we got that. Really? Is that a thing? Yeah.

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You get like, glass bottles of like soft drink. Yeah. And now what you put it in and now then refill?

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Like the milk thing?

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Yeah, it's like the milk for bargains.

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Like, I don't know, but they're all like, fake Coca Cola. Like a cold. Yeah. shit like that.

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Yeah, it's it's it's not bad, but it's full of sugar. Actually, it's completely wrong. So how did you?

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Yeah, how'd you come down from the easy's? You've got an easy t shirt on?

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Yeah, yeah, I haven't stopped partying might have been so hard. No, last Friday was great. I think it just propelled me into a weekend of eating shit. Yeah. It's opening the door. That's this could be the problem with fat Fridays is that it opens the door to fat Friday that

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every Sunday. Maybe Monday

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maybe blow out Monday because you don't give a shit anymore. Maybe that could be a benchmark. Did you blow out the door Friday? I mean, we only had a burger. But then later that night I think I had some bullshit

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no I was proud of myself because on Sunday went up to Healesville not sanctuary but just Healesville you know, like the nice area. Yeah. And went to a pub and they had a I was just going to get a chicken Parma and classic JJ style spray. Hey, can you go on? Do you want to go up in order? Yeah. And then she said she came back to me and said I've actually got a special which is, like a schnitzel with some chilli bean type of thing and sauerkraut? Yeah, yeah, just right up my alley. I said yes. Now, I've got a question for you guys. When you hear a special what makes something a special at a restaurant chain?

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So there's two things frequency.

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Two things. Yeah. What's the frequency one? Like

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a special is like a like a one on one a day awake? Like that sort of thing. Like a Friday special.

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Okay, so yeah, a special two things, I think sometimes cost if there's a special Yeah. So you get lots of value being delivered. But then something that's not on the menu often. So it's like, yeah,

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we'll take to the I think it took to that frequency box, not the cost box because I said that to Bry I was like are we talking about it afterwards or whatever. And the chicken parm I was 25 and she said all yours was 29

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Yeah, so that's ridiculous. Five for a chicken Parma

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Yeah, well, it No it's a shuttle with chilli beans and sound printing

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especially at a restaurant can sometimes be expensive pubs the specials are usually like special permit. There's a permanent that's a special Yeah. At village building the Amai awesome. 15 bucks.

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It's unbelievable. good value. Yeah, but the the thing that I was really proud of myself with it was fucking huge. And I was loving it. If you've listened to the show for a decent chunk of time, you know that one thing that I love is the feeling of thankful. And so I got three quarters. I've actually got a folder full of shit. It's not good enough for to really, really feel full. I'll show this far. I took it because I I didn't take a photo of the before. But that's when I put my knife and fork down. Far out. Yeah, so this you've left quite a bit there is less. He's left the salad.

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And he's actually left some of the parliament was wrong with the waist. Josh God, what the fuck up.

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So look how good those chippies look to the problem is with doing this and this is what I've always felt with not finishing things on your plate, is you not? It's not about stopping now that I have a problem with it. I know then two days time, I'm going to think about it and feel like that and be like you had your opportunity, bro. She didn't feel like I fit. I'm annoyed now. Don't have those chips.

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Do you know what I'm gonna? Do? You know why? Because you haven't eaten all day. It's probably why I'm fasting. You're fasting. All right, I'm gonna bring you back to the request I put in with Mr. 97 Dean broad belt. I first came across he I think he came across me. But he added me on Facebook. He started kind of just sort of chipping away I just want to say just like, reaching out to me, like saying this Hi, my like, basically, I saw that he was in the radio space. And this is when I was trying to get into the radio. So he's named one last name broad belt. And so there was something not quite right about him. It's it's that vibe you get from people it's just like a gut feel. He kind of asked me to do he's like my I work for this thing called read radio and vitamins by

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my hair is rising because I feel like I saw something maybe two years ago this guy being a massive scam artist. Yeah.

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Well, I said yeah, deliver some of the facts about Dane broad belt. He's got multiple names is one of the one of them's Dane broad belt the others. Mr. Hemmings here, Luke? hemming? Yeah, leukaemia, that's right. Yeah. And he, he changes his name, rip off creditors in hundreds of thousands of unpaid phase and failed ventures.

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He did. He did like an event that he was going to run or something crazy. What did he asked from from you to remember? He was wanting me to put together a demo for this thing called read radio. And I used to see him promoting it on those. What's that? You know that casting couch. Casting, casting, casting side? Now stand out you never know who's on those platforms because Dean Brody was there and he was looking for people to just sit on his couch together demos

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Well, there's an interesting comment about sitting on not gonna finish

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today again,

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you know you're referencing Macy and his catch would would then mean something happens between us. That's what you that's what you said of

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spitting out. He was a huge you though. No.

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Hundred percent not what you didn't. I didn't know. Guys tell it. So what what's the latest accusation to hit? Yeah, so he was he was on a call with Mr. Barry. who's like, he's a PT. Yes. And, anyway, so they're on a phone call. 1:44am in the morning. And Luke Hemmings the the scam artist says I want you to dig How big is it? So he's trial for you hung up on the victim?

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Yeah. I want you to camp it use it. Is that a troll? Or is that just an ask?

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No, I don't know. I mean, it might be gay. gronk. It's just, you know, some random shit that he said. That's fucking unusual. Coming from this guy. So. So basically, I got tweeted an article recently about this guy. So someone tweeted us, I mean, friend of mine tweeted me news.com article, and it's just this such a long storey. At one point, he faked his own death. Yep. Well, he's, well, a press release, went out, saying that he killed himself. And I remember seeing that and even though I had those into someone can

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hear a banging someone's hammering right now. Yeah.

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I had some interactions with him. And then I was like, this guy's a weirdo, and I won't have anything to do with it. Even when I saw that he killed himself. I felt so fucking bad for me for him to that he never killed himself. And he denies releasing the press release. But the fact that I know he's ripped off so many people. So what am I doing now? He got off all of it. He's never been legitimately convicted of these crimes. He's like, he's got he's gone on to mental mental illness. Plays Yeah. So he got off. pleading that he's I'm definitely not nagging him in this. Full on do but it's like watching a movie where there's like, Catch me if you can do a film. Fascinating Leonardo DiCaprio about a real life dude who actually went on to work for some big banks about preventing Check, check fraud. So he invented the systems that stop people from fucking stealing sheep because he was the guy that stole shit. So good. I think you'd love the movie. But he's the closest like he's legitimately gotten gotten cars with 20 $30,000 taking them off. Like he's he's just brazen. He's a brazen freak. Break. It's so weird, but I thought I'd throw just bring him up.

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con man when when someone's this latest article, like what's all the like?

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The whole show? So going back to court. And and yeah, it's I think the reason I bring it up is because it's, it's a bit chilling when you've when you've had a bit of an encounter. It's like the dude who murdered his wife. And you might with him. We were young. It's like you think about it. That was close to home. Yeah. And so the the, the poor people, he's conned young musicians. And he called this one kid into quitting year 12. And travelling across the country to go be under his wing or something to sort of Teach him these things and give him a job. And then he left him stranded there. So far, like a serial manipulator. I remember him calling me one specifically I was in the house. I lived in Brighton aced, and I was just like, just entertaining. Hey, dude. Hey, man. He's just like, charismatic. Just a bit. Not charming, but just you know, on his own. He's saying I am Yeah. You're charming. Thanks, might. Well, he's it was a little bit charming. takes one and no one.

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wanted to bring up before we go. Yes. Something that's happened in my life. Ah,

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I can't believe we didn't hit this top of show.

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I've retired.

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Yeah.

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Definitely not from this business. Now, we need you. I've retired from social media. Yeah, I'm doing it quietly. Yeah. Which would you could argue that based on me, because it's the opposite. It's kind of the only way to do it. Because I've done what I've done. What I deactivated Facebook, got rid of my Twitter, and just got rid of all my photos on Instagram. Yeah. And so I've put a bio in my bio now it just says retired, like retired from social media.

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Yeah, I think know, doing it in a noisy manner is keeping them and putting up a final post you guys. versus what you've done is like, I didn't even know until you got in today. Although someone

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picked up on it soulmates, too. So, Stu, so shout out you there Friday. Friday. Hey, didn't blow out the whole weekend. Yeah, but hey, I saw as I like, archived my last photo, and I just say this day him coming from Chicago. What's going on with your product? I was like, This is exactly like I can't engage because I'm closing I'm shutting it down. This is shutting off. Shut up. I've committed suicide

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may seek first to say suicide.

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Yeah, my I got rid of it.

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That's all I'm trying. I'm trying to realise that I was doing all the screen time checking out and how long I was spending. I was spending like at least an hour a day on Instagram.

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Yeah. And so that's insane. Yeah,

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my thoughts were it's like, I want to be reading more. I want to be doing all these things. Actually, I looked at how much value social media was giving me. I was like, sorry, love.

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Yeah, we've it's been a big discussion today. Yeah. But if you were to kind of doubt if you say I'm doing because of

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I'm doing it to free up time. I replaced with what so so now I'm I've set up a very set up my blog at Josh Janssen. com. I'm going to write there every day. And I want to read more as well. But just less like, consuming shoot. And the other thing too is it was in boxes. I'm so bad at staying focused. So then getting an Instagram dm, a Facebook Messenger, a WhatsApp, a fucking I message and normal text message. And email is too many fucking ways to contact me. So now you just go to Josh, you just Josh, a Josh Janssen.com. you email me? Yeah. Oh, hi, the daily talk show if it's related to the podcast,

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I told you in the past about doing these kind of things. Because I didn't think you're ready. You seem more ready to do it now. So I'll hold hold off on the trolling. So I guess

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I'll in regards to read it. What do you want to do about that? What do you want to do? Well, I guess you can sort of manage it for a bit.

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Is Tommy on Instagram as well. Now he's

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outsourced every P Yeah.

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I had to wait until I had a business partner that I could just handle everything. He's my login.

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But I think what I'm curious on is challenging the thought around the need for all of these things like the need for every single platform. So it's, it's so I mean, we've been talking about this show many reasons you can come up for keeping it based on information like my video of OpenStack went viral on Facebook to start with So should I keep Facebook or you know, LinkedIn is doing well for me. Yeah. And I've got work out of it. Should I keep it and so you can always come up with these reasons why coming up with the reasons to get rid of us? Yeah, it seems like they weaker just in the grand scheme of things watching what's happening. If you actually put it away. Yeah, but that's what I like to I like to challenge the fact that it is the arguments for why you should get rid of it. Yeah, it can be at done by the other side. But it's only because the other side is real life data. Yeah. And so there's this on the other side of getting rid of it is all this unknown. And so maybe that's where the power lies. Fucking unknown landscape.

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Well, I just think like I've looked at my phone whitelists I've got whitelisted on my phone now. It makes me not want to like I don't need to upgrade my phone. Like this is pretty good. Like I could even get a dumber phone if I wanted to.

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You be off the grid.

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off the grid.

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I tell my I once bought a domain name. off the grid calm da we've had this year we've had this off the grid after I purchased it and then I saw what I'd actually

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