#390 – Luke Kidgell On Radio, Podcasting & Comedy/
- July 11, 2019
Luke Kidgell joins us on the podcast today! Luke is a stand-up comedian who has quickly become one of the biggest new wave entertainers after a sell out tour in 2018. Luke has his own podcast, ‘Memoirs of a white guy’, and has announced with Lewis Spears that the Luke and Lewis podcast will be making a come back.
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show we discuss:
– Comedy specials
– Teaching VCAL students
– Why Luke got into radio
– The Luke and Lewis Podcast
– Writing comedy
– Monetising comedy
– Hecklers and improv
– The comedy industry
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Luke and Lewis Podcast: https://omny.fm/shows/luke-and-lewis/playlists/podcast
Luke’s podcast, Memoirs of a White Guy: https://omny.fm/shows/memoirs-of-a-white-guy
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It's a daily Talk Show Episode 390 it's happening guys, we got a guest in the studio, kid Joe.
Well, that's a Welcome. Welcome.
I've done that so many times when it's people's birthdays, or the classic one is when you have an Uber and you go to the airport and they have a nice flight you say you too. Yeah.
Cuz I have my own podcast and I'm used to welcoming guests on I'm not really a guest. Yes, it's like guys welcome
to different muscle that you have to flex. Yeah. So I mean, you're usually literally that was a sick flex. Much came in and started hosting.
You do a podcast a lot
of the time by yourself.
Yeah, fact that Yeah. That's great. I mean,
comedy is a is a lonely business.
Yeah, I mean, what is that? The first one obviously you get to get three you've done 123 30
or something like that.
So you still sticking at it?
Yeah, I'm gonna go do it after this actually.
And what's the vibe by yourself? What do you prefer?
I like talking to people more than I think it is. Like there's no other situation in which you can just speak your mind for an hour and people listen, there's something like fun about know and interrupting and which means if you have a shit opinion, paper will just hide it. Yeah, they will actually write it do you find people writing if you've said something that they don't agree with? Oh, for sure. I did a bit about the weird stuff as well. I did a bit about like I was talking I know Wow, it's just gonna be fun and make fun of people who drive manuals now. Which is not a demographic you want to make fun of because people who do drive manuals yeah like cars
Yes. always always always impressed with the chicks in my life when I was young who drive manuals like fucking props to you? But I was for some reason I was into it. I was into girls who knew it sounds fact that shall
not even where it was in my mind that had nothing to do with
it. There's a there's something about like the independence.
Like Yeah, I can control this whole thing. Yes. See, I was trashing my new job as I was saying, I like what's the point when cars can do it fully, you know, like, yeah, like you kind of walk in traffic. I think that was my main point. He's
many good arguments. He's the reality if you want to get a Ferrari and your riches fact, you're not getting a manual one. They don't do manual one.
Really? Look at
a manual Ferrari. Automatic. They're all either tip tonic, which is just like you do control the
You don't have a clock spending half a million dollars and you get an automatic Yeah, automatics are actually more more expensive or cheap of the menu. More expensive, more expensive. Automatic. Cars are automatics. Like I hate to the family cars. I mean, I'm all about automatics now.
Yeah. Yeah. But everyone is this I'm saying my point was it's the future why we still living in the past and people got mad I put up a clip and I got like 80,000 views online. Not because it was popular. Because like people just in the comments like you know, but but but the kind of guys who were honestly caring about that like
you Harvey's wearing Yeah.
who they think calling that they were calling me like, Oh, what a girl and I was like the fact that you think calling me girls and insult shows a lot about you. Like that's not i'm not insulted by that. Yeah, like, oh, you're a girl. It's like, all right.
I like it. Because you've spotted on the head. What the? what it used to be, you know, like people Yeah, man. Yo, man, this,
man. Oh, yeah, clearly because I just thought it was funny. And also like, I don't care. That's think I thought I was like, Buck manuals. But no, I don't care. I still be funny. Just to say one line of the economy. My contract. That's my whole point.
You just want to see it to the bank job. Okay, got stuck on the on the manual. It was like a,
like a four to 10 whack job. I know. No one else can say.
I know. It's Friday, who told me that he used to have a bank on the way to work in the car. Really? No joke. No fucking joke, dude. I thought it was weird. You guys
would just take the sort of was a nicer person on the work site because of it less angry.
Easy, they got a sex addiction. Yeah. And this is a way of just sort of dumbing it down a little bit for the day.
Just do it before you leave.
I'm not gonna say who it is, or whatever. But I know someone who just went on the job,
really on the job. I feel like Episode
Four. Anyway, talk about that. I mean,
we talked about work banks. We did this.
Yeah, Episode 14, before we thought that this was going to be a thing that would sort of, we didn't think would have Seth Godin. And just anyway, we, we spoke about sort of radical honesty. And so we just went through moments of talking about things that we around comfortable with personally, but things that we've done. And I think that maybe I think that work blank definitely made it in there.
Yeah, yeah, definitely. I mean,
it's squeegee in my soul. So neither as well. Which you have to
decide if Josh didn't do that as a 14 year old. How old we 1214 in
verse. I was hoping you said on
theism. No, it was actually it was like, it was I was like, 15 I'm probably look, it wasn't for cleaning purposes. The reason? The reason why I did it to be clear was because I had a sex ed teacher who was trying to give us a more sort of real experience around what what you need to know about your body. And she was an older lady, and she said, talked about the male's G spot, you know? Yeah, and so that's what I reckon I wouldn't have been the only one late adopter water.
Yeah, drink. See, I know that.
Yeah, and I've never tried it curious. I've haven't had to do it since well, because I realised I didn't want to be
no, I kind of envy you because I everyone does want to know what it feels like I just anyway.
The funny thing is that I then I mentioned on the show, and then I had a mate, who was very sort of casually said, I yes, I got my wife to put a dildo in my ass on the weekend. to test it. It was the first time he was testing it out. And that's not even that's not even a joke. But we do. We do have a rifleman. We do have a squeegee Kieran, Kieran ski, ski ski. What do we have ag Yeah, we're gonna we actually said the reason that Why
did you call it the most difficult
hasn't been difficult up into it.
I got some new Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers. We're
also selling seashells that she sells. sheds. Know so this, this keyring for people who listen to the show regularly would know this is actually designed by three day deal, which is how he got his name. And so he actually has come from Canada. And he brought like, we basically started this cult, there's only four of them. And I've got six of them. How many do we have? There's nine and total?
Really? Yeah, free went missing in
Josh? Yeah. And so um, yeah, but that that's how a three day deal came to be. So he was listening to the show. He said, I've got a 3d printer. I'll make these for you. Yeah. And then before, you know, I guess it was the
year you're in the business of sort of noticing things that are picking up momentum and running with them. Yeah, that's what I love about creativity radio, it's like, you start to see what audience is picking up on. Like you sipping water on stage. Oh, did you say that?
That happens at all my shows and I don't know why I still
don't know what Joe when he
explained what happened. So you know, there's a Have you guys seen comedy before the comedian you know, about 10 minutes in the throat gets a little party, walk over the store, have a drink and there's always this weird pause whether you're there's like 150 people or whatever or sometimes if you that big a theatre of people just staring at you drinking and no other profession does that wherever it's just watching you drink so at my shows, like it always starts with the first time someone just to feel the awkwardness one time just went single, and I was like, Thank you whatever and then the next time I want to go to drink about 10 minutes later in the show 30 people and I was almost getting a standing ovation like to the point where I'd be like, I never go nuts and then to take it away. We saw it was like
Do you find that that adds to the show or at the beginning so like from an energy point of view?
Oh it's funny like a good thing to call back throughout the show but sometimes I'll be halfway through a joke forget about it and I'm so into telling a joke and I just quickly get a drink and Aaron starts going nuts and I'm like why like example of it I have a clip of it. I was like oh so I went to Thailand recently and I just got a drink and everyone started going nuts and I was like why so many people care about Thailand that I've briefly forget all the time like oh shit yeah we're all doing names I got
it actually reminds me when I when I watch Ricky devices special I feel like he's got a big fosters
obviously lot happens in my new special the shot is coming out and and I don't know how he audiences so what happened in like Adelaide happening camera happened in Brisbane I don't know how these people communicating this garbage to each other.
So what is the main way of your tribe or your people your your fans out? You can all help Yeah, I do have a car what is the way that they communicate if you worked out how you can get them all like Instagram and I do reply to like everyone's dm Yeah, and do
they talk amongst each other?
Yes, I have a discord as well for like the Patreon people like it's so weird like some of them have become friends. Yeah, they've met through might come into my shows like The next year. You may two people you met the year before like, oh, we're dating now. And you're like, that's so weird. It's super weird. You mentioned bonding of a weird podcast.
It's a weird time. I mean, what I was thinking about us doing seven days if if you listen to every show there's a massive buy in there. I think he's like if you listen to one show awake, you have buy in but it becomes the voice in your ear.
I wonder how many people have one I feel like it'd be hot Did someone just fucking yawn Did I hear you yes I
did that again.
This is what Haven't we changed the audio levels we've given him more Mike volume and I second regret it anyway. The what I wanted to bring up was you mentioned recount. Yeah. In it was that you stand up special that you slicing up.
That was just a clip from a couple of years ago me opening for my friend Louis. On the show floor. That was what open face special. Yeah. Yeah, did that fake how bad and it since has gone very viral.
I didn't think it was that. I don't know if it was a good bit, but it would have been better never put in a special but I'm glad I did put it out
viral in a good way or viral and this
one was viral and like 3 million views just from the whole kids who love it. And now it's so many storeys of vehicle, US teachers playing it. Which kind of proves my point.
I am I dropped out of a cow,
which is the ultimate wow See, I jumped out of time so everyone thought I was punching down. I'm like, dude, I'm just punching directly across
gronk next to me.
Yeah. I mean, it's a very it's a very cold thing to do. Kelly's It stands for Victorian Certificate of applied learning doesn't really help kids with not
in high school, it's already year 12 then you don't even have a car you do like they just do stupid shit. The problem that
I had with it because I was probably a perfect student for something like a very cow. Yeah, but because I wasn't like a sane as someone who would do a trade. It didn't really fit but I feel like if they were to change the towel to be more like open source like you could be a creative or a filmmaker. Because that's why I went there. So the whole storey is I tell the storey I went to school to teach Vico kids how to stand up they employed me they were like, hey, this breakout teacher messaged me going Hey, like we're doing the stand up comedy thing. We'd love to get a comedian to come in and help the kids write like a five minute thing. And I thought it was super weird. Yeah. Alright, cool. by me. It's like going to a child.
I do a lot during the day. So I was like, swayed. And I thought I might get a storey out of it. And I'm very glad I went and then the kids just were not interested because the kids who were there were there to do it right or whatever. Why are we learning stand up and I did the same. I had no interest to do stand up comedy. I was like, why am I sitting here listening to this guy?
I love that the teacher thought it was a great idea. I think it's
actually glorified babysitting like that's doing it was like just Just tell him to sit there and keep it on him for two hours.
How do you actually set up a class
for folks? And I was like, I was like, the jack black in school rock. Me and I close the door. And I was like, All right, I'm gonna be real with you. Who here wants to learn stand up? And now we're like, like two people, kids. I was like, cool. I have to teach you, you guys. You just shut up. I don't care what you do. I'm like, Just don't be annoyed.
Like, that guy.
was super cool to that like yeah,
they can't do it. Just like suede. I've got a free period off. And then by the end like, I kind of I did the anti thing of like, by the end, I was being funny. And they were teaching these kids how to write jokes, whatever. And the kids who thought that was too cool for the start kind of started to join you
know, like if I can make
a game. Like you know, one of them was sit there the fact with these arms folded them but I've got a storey Yeah, I started Tommy so you know, could be funny. And then I realised five minutes and I was like, you're running stand up. He's like, no, no. No,
it's usually the kids who don't want to be involved that have something in them or are they
take By the way, which I don't think the camera will pick up as it do. I feel like you do. Like a puppy say to get it, but yeah, there it is. JOHN. It's moved. Anyway, sorry about that. I was I keep looking at the Yeah, we're good. Yeah, it's moved. You actually wouldn't be able to say it. You've you had a radio show? Yes. With that little space who we've had on the show Yes. How did how did that come about? What as someone who sees you as someone who's been able to foster a community online something that a lot of radio people dream of doing? Yeah. And so you
know, they do
I recommend a lot of I think
what's it's like YouTube stars WANT TO BE TV stars right.
Maybe at the start because TV was still the big maybe not battling YouTube stars just want to be YouTube's does that because that's all it is a report on YouTube is as much as they report on TV stars. Yeah, like I
lack and Logan Paul like being ambushed in the street
David Deibert talks about he's if he's a dream is to have his own tonight show like Tom show.
And so I think what are the future
of that is on the internet, but that's where I'm at. Yeah, it's
on the internet. I think that everyone's like undervaluing their own spotlight area, or in that sort of, sort of thing
has any 1813 million subscribers. Yes. Isn't that like probably more viewers than the tonight show has 100%? Well,
that's that's a weakness in like humans, we we value things that we think that we want, but we've got the actual thing right there. Why did you do why did you decide to do radio at the start?
Well, that's what I've just realised recently was we've since stopped doing it. Boom. I think we just wanted to do Luke and Lewis. We wanted to do a show together. And then I think the go to at the start of, you know, you're a comedian, you're like, all right, we want to do a show. What's a platform we can do that show on and the obvious choice was radio, and we knew and I think the reason why I found about your podcast was when you jack post, yeah, I knew him from community radio, like I'd seen. And so I'd met him a couple of times. And then Lewis new Sam, Kevin has a mission and he's a producer and through like a family friend, and I think we just shot him an email and we recorded a little demo and he was like not come back when you want to change your online stuff. That's what Sam said. And he was like,
What did that mean?
kinda just like Lewis the stones pretty edgy stuff and still is at the time and maybe you guys aren't fit for radio but then he was like, Look, I'll still fold this on to all the content producers then Dave Cameron, Mrs. Like a mould us like three days later go and come in
as a connexion that because Tommy's Michael Cole up that was rude, died when you got the shepherd and gave me mommy about 1230. I am just might do you want a job? regional? Hell
we? I was 22 that's like some screwed up. It's wireless. Yeah, yeah. 22, like up in the middle of the night, which is a little boy.
Just a baby was found. In the Justin Bieber, right? Yeah,
yeah. But I'm shit.
And so what was the so were so. So Dave Cameron reached out
was that a risk either way came in. And then jack was really good. JACK post was really good and stayed off too. So we used to come in for about six weeks in our off time machine. And he finished and jack used to stay around and recorded demo for us, like just for free. Like amazing. Just very nice. Yeah. Because we they were like, Oh, we need to record a demo. But they didn't want to pay anyone. If you've worked in, right, that they don't want to pay anyone to do anything. Yeah. And so that then jack said, Yeah, I'm happy to do it, which is probably when
jack was trying to build his house, which is probably like would have been nice. Yeah. And so what was the
What were you trying to get out of those types? What would like what were those? We just wanted a show. And then we got caught on the modern digital, like the triple m digital network. And then that was awesome. And then I think that that's where our show was probably best. And then after about a year on that we are not even like eight months in that we got put on Fox on Sunday night. And we're doing like the feeling stuff on the school holidays and like on the survey break. And then I think we just realised that like, Oh, this isn't what maybe we really wanted to do at the start. But yeah, we lost sight of what we originally wanted to do like on triple A modern digital. We were doing whatever we wanted to do. We're doing this ridiculous stuff, like walk into work and 30 kilometres and do one of these dumb challenge 30 kilometres bit Is that right? Yeah. Was that? Yeah, I was proving that I live in the country. I live in the country. And he said if you live if you don't live in the country, because you could walk to work
the next day and walk six hours.
We had a blog by the name of Craig hopper on the show. Yeah, early in the week. And we were talking about what we're doing and and how there's no rules. He's going to podcast to us our rules to what we're doing. And I that's what I love radio, there is a lot of rules. So many
this psycho knows it does keep the content moving. And it's almost fun to sometimes play in that field. But then I think we're just better not playing that because I think our show is like an anti radio show anyway, like ways to break them. Like that was kind of the show like wasted a segment called like, is our boss listening. But we'd throw out a massive threat like we're going to do something awful on air. And we we we timed how long it was between our studio and Dave Cameron's office. And we used to play a timer. And because he used to insist that he listened every day, but we knew. So we still like start the clock. And we like David, you know, do this work and a lady one time we just left. Like when I went back with him. It's like when I do the show today. And that was
like the appeal of our show. And why I built an audience so quick of our online fans was because yeah, it was a radio show like on Royds, like it was like why do these guys have a show? What
do you learn about audience when you do a radio show? Because essentially, a radio station has their own audience. And you're then on there,
you're presenting to an existing audience. And that was
always the battle between us and not like it wasn't there was never any tension. But like the 20 awesome. The radio station was like, retention. They're like, this is how you appeal to the folks audience. And we're like, we didn't care because we already had our own online audience. What
was that out of curiosity? What would they say? What were the brand filters, if you wanted to be the perfect, perfect boys,
for example, like they used to stop us from doing stuff that we thought was hilarious. Like, we used to have this segment called businesses exposed and Lewis always wanted to expose the radio station for not, you know, the flying fox. Now it's not just a sound effect of the traffic report. Every day co like, live at the flying folks. It's just someone a news booth with it. Flying over, we always wanted to just expose them on air for that. And they stay. We used to go out with stuff like that's just one example of
one of them, right? Yeah,
we always make fun of the radio station. We used to maybe like when big guests used to come in. We used like when will I am came in our member had bunch of chocolates, they're waiting for him. And like we were there the night before he did the performance before the grand final or whatever. Last when he was on the fox. And we just always, like steal this chocolate. Like we're eating Williams chocolate. It's just like it was a constant thing of like, yeah, and you guys just writing it in little? Yeah, it was just like every day, we would like oh, we could do this. And we'd be running through the office. Yeah. Just crazy.
And sorry. It's been what, six months into your finish radio stuff about that? Yeah.
Probably wrapped up at marks like just before the call. Yes.
And so today, you're announcing that you guys are fat. You've got your podcast back?
Yes. Or seems like I've come on this podcast to announce that it was actually
he's coming on.
He's I know you chuckle Yeah. I mean, what was the thought process? Because you could say that, that all those nights that you spent doing the checks or whatever with jack post was leading. That was essentially a podcast.
Yeah. Well, we don't regret doing anything. Like the show was so much fun. And it built what we had today. And so many people love that radio show, because I think maybe we didn't. Well, I think we always stay true to what we thought it was like we never did. Like you guys, like, you know, like this, like, Oh, you guys should talk about this, because it's in the news you like, but we don't want to talk about it. It's great. It's also
the night shift. Like I think that the areas that you're playing in Yeah, it was that you if you were in Breakfast Show and shopping or whatever, all of a sudden, you have to talk about original stuff.
Yeah, we will like sir, an example was it was in the news at the time. Remember, in a check. It was the condo podcast was happening. And I was like, just as an example. Would we have to talk about that seriously on air? And I'm like, Yeah, of course. And I was like, well, that's not what we wanted to do. We just wanted to look and No, sir. The reason why we kind of stopped it was because there was not a lot of you know, by the end, we were doing it in different states all the time, because one of us will be doing shows and just a and then we're also really wasn't maybe the path we wanted to go down to and also like that we were only on once a week we wanted to do it. Well.
I think that's a great decision. I think that a lot of people don't listen to that internal voice but being
crazy, like all the comedians on the circuit think went nuts for quitting already show because that's all thing, what a lot of people are striving towards.
Well, that's why I guess that's what we're talking about at the front. It's the there's a lot of people who idolised certain things within the industry, where it's like, there's a bunch of people who might look at Mike who are in radio. Like, I've heard people who were really successful on radio, being chuffed that they're on a podcast, it's like, it's that same.
I've been lucky enough to experience both sides. And I've, you know, weigh them up. And I just think the online stuff is more creativity, it's probably more work but at the end of the day, there's more positive you got more freedom if you're lucky enough to have a online following I think just go for that. And there's more because again, like those other people, they're ready session controlling a future.
Yeah. Which Yeah, I mean, so what describe the podcast?
Yes. To coming back and pretty much doing like, like, will you Yes, like whatever we want. Yeah, man every day like you know if I want to trash little something for 10 minutes, you can't do it. All right. Yeah, cuz you gotta go to a song.
Yeah. So it's one long talk break, right? Yes. Multiple chances. Are you still living in the country? I do still live in Diamond City.
Diamond City sound. It's called diamond Craig. City. It sounds like it sounds like this is saying. The Diamond City actually. It's amazing. Having name the fight.
Not tonic city. It sounds like cc Diamond City. Sounds like a casino in Vegas. strip club.
Sometimes it takes Josh you know, the moon has to be in the right position. coffee cup has to be in the right place for him to do anything. To get down to be
specific. If it's too cold to hot. My baby doesn't like to work.
But I think creative endeavours require don't know you need a sort of being a right place some circumstances to get started for you writing comedy. Are you needing to? Like what works for you? Yeah, I've
tried a bunch of different stuff. I used to get out of my Park and with a notebook and not take my phone. And then occasionally I'd be like, oh, what's another word for that? And I'd want to google it which came in handy you a little. So like, I've now. Well, very healthy. Yeah.
That would be pretty nice. Like, can you buy dictionaries now? I guess you'd have to Oxford Dictionary of wonder about that. Like getting a fuckin Yeah, I never appreciated scientific calculators when I was growing up.
Still don't say I still don't have no appreciation how we was in high school when like private school, it was like a it was considered cheating, tabbed. use a calculator. Then you get into high school. And it's like, why don't you have a calculator? And you're like, Well, I didn't bring it in like well, you need it. Well, I it was always considered cheating.
Yeah, definitely. I mean, I guess the difference between primary school and high school is primary school is more sort of your times tables. Don't see time sixes
36 It's very good. Thank you.
It was a complete scam. Now think about how much money parents around Australia spend around the world on calculators.
Ah, scam. Mom was like 150 like they're big mouth. So
all those books? Yeah, seriously. I mean, now it's a bit different.
I mean, it's a classic dead move. You can tell that you're a dad because you just call everything if I can scan it wasn't scared. It's a death. It's an expensive because I remember that was the most expensive thing in the whole. Like your book book list was the scientific calculator. Some
of those textbooks are getting pretty expensive, especially. I mean, I only did one year of like a course out of school. But yeah, I remember. I think I was like someone was like 200 bucks. We doing music? What was your I was doing a Bachelor of Music Business at Fox Hill. Taif, which is business off the music? Yeah. Was there was no money in DC so I 13 grand light I'm now going to 15 grand hex that that artefact I've actually since paid off. I just decided to just pay it off as quickly as I could. Because, you know, you get charged, like a level of interest. It's called indexation. And oh, yeah, heck step. I didn't know that. I think a lot of people do have your headset now.
Mr. 97. Does. How much you got? And how many are you packing his
head up from? Yeah, he's anyone to private school? No. public high school? Yeah. Which is basically you. He was only there for two months. Yeah. Unique job was not what was actual build to think.
I think it's two and a half.
to three months. They had crises that
yeah. I mean, it's
like I know.
That's, that's a year's worth of rent. It's like,
deals in his fourth year,
third year going into my fourth competition. But how much student debt do you have? Probably 32 grand at the moment? what's what's the deal in Canada? We used to have a six month grace period where we could save up money and then start paying back. But no, six
months is not that much not but
then the government decided to cut that. And then so as soon as I finished my degree, I have to start paying what sort of payments here in a month, you will be up for probably starting at like 450 500 bucks a month.
Not like a percentage of your income like he is what like 2.5% of
what's off to you in a certain amount of cash.
$50,000 a year?
Yes. Yeah. So you can just go through and 40 which was only ever have to
I mean, as a as a comedian, like, What is it? What do you books actually look like? How does how does this?
Like how does it actually work? Well,
I'd say most of the money comes in through touring, like pretty much 60% and then maybe like, bit of online stuff off that all my stuff. I'm only making like I think people think we make a lot of YouTube. I only make like 200 bucks a month of shows all my stuff gets de monetized.
Yeah, I think I'm joking. I'm not I mean, I can 100% believe it.
Then they changed. They changed him had some restrictions around an account that can be monetized to put up a certain amount of videos or
views. Yeah, like at the staggered, I have 1000 subscribers and also a certain amount of watch time. Yeah. Which just cuts out all those weird kids at school where they're like, got 70 subscribers, I think it's just YouTube going like we only want to deal with the top 80% of all the top 60% of YouTube users. Yeah, you know, there's lots of people with like, Minecraft channels out there, again, 30 views. What's the point of monetizing for at the party? Well, that's when they're not going to make any money out of it. If they're only getting 30 views, you pretty much don't make any money out of it until you have about 10,000 to 20,000 subscribers anyway.
I mean, that was the thing when that when they announced that it's like, the amount of money that they're leaving on the table is like $10 a month is what the people would be making if they were actually so it's like,
well, I made 90 bucks in my account over life. And then I read the fine print. And until you go over Yeah, he go over 100 they don't pay it out. Yeah, that's
a threshold. So some months, like, if I didn't upload enough, I wouldn't even hit that threshold. Yeah. So I won't even get paid some money.
And so I feel like you invest quite heavily in those, like the special that you did, and the content creating that cost
me $10,000. Film special, but I think everyone that's the future, I think is people self funding stuff, like waiting around for Netflix to give you one. Yeah. And then we're going to try and get on some streaming services anyway. Because streaming services a lot more likely to give you the time of day, because if you don't have to do any work, and you just like have a product for them. That's so much easier for them then making you know, making a Netflix original comedy special is more effort than just buying an existing one. Yeah. So I think if you have a finished product, especially if you bank up a couple, you can give them all in hopefully in a few years is the plan to a streaming so yes, definitely. I mean, we've been talking about Stan and they're like, yeah, I mean, we're gonna have to do anything will take Yeah,
well, their content. They need content.
They do. Yeah. And you've got I guess there's companies like Netflix who spending beforehand. What was that? Was that number that you were saying the other day was 97. I think he's around 20 billion. Yeah, there's a lot of money going into content.
Did you hear those numbers of how many views that Adam Sandler and Jennifer Aniston film got awakened? Ah, like something like 13 million? Just in the US? Well, and that's like, a quarter of that population. Yeah, that's crazy. It was not how they got hundreds of millions aka it's like a 10th of that population.
It's about a year's worth of rent. I
know it's a it's more than our population in Australia, right?
Yeah, we got 2525 the side but it's a certain vehicle.
That's easy. That bed so
how do you how do you get where's the scientific calculator? How did you justify so as video production people, we see the value in spending 10 grand because that's our well I'm a you
know, over half of the back off the show, because those 400 people yeah, so you make most of it back on the night selling tickets. But still I that I paid it off throughout the rest of my tools every show I did between Brisbane and pretty much the end of my two I was didn't wasn't making any money. I wasn't paying off my special Yeah, so I mean, I think that's super rewarding right next year. The idea is like people are saying the special more sell more tickets more people come to the shows. So it's like it's just an investment you know, putting money to make money.
So do you do a special is the idea that you do a special every 12 months
and I think like once every few years, couple two years because of this. We like a good hour. You don't want to put out the just the hour that you do everything because you know, some bits you know they're good in the room. But like I think when you you guys will know if you watch a special on Netflix and you know you feel like it's not as never as funny as being in the room.
I'm always disappointed every time I turn on Netflix special don't watch my
Yeah, I think that like the difference between being in like a actual, like going to a stand up neither seeing it in person. versus doing the Netflix thing. I just feel like the way that I always land on a comedy special on Netflix is it's like maybe I feel the pressure especially with Bray my girlfriend. When putting on a comedy special. It feels like there's an extra layer of like, we'll say okay, if we don't laugh in the first 10
give it to him. Which is why you got to put all your best shot at the stuff. Yeah, yeah.
But then you've got comedians like crystal Leah, who does a podcast by himself every week. That show fucking funny. Yeah.
Last year and I saw him in Melbourne and he was like amazing.
Yeah, I think he's so funny but it's amazing that you can I almost like sometimes I almost like he's um he's on podcast better Yes, because it's him just riffing for an hour
but comedy is such a taste thing because I watch it and I don't laugh as much like you they say heaps of stuff but funny enough people
I felt when I was room there because I do a lot of crap I've got my shows I got my camera shot at about 2530 minutes of crab work and I 40 minutes of material so I think I am a similar to Crystal a where it's like a thing where maybe you are funnier on the spot. You know, but but that's never as funny to watch back online. Yeah, like you want their
energy to the room is that you're sort of playing off which when you're in when you sitting on a couch and so how many how many days a week each doing the podcast with
so it Listen, I go doing it two days a week, Monday Thursday, and then we both have an individual as well so so three podcasts away That's it.
Yeah. And so what's the from a strategic point of view? How much thought do you put to distribution for instance, the the YouTube stuff I was watching on the weekend how much effort there is now in that you know, the funnel in the analytics thing where it's like watch time you got to get all this shit right and people are updating their thumbnails after the fact and testing things. And I was looking at your YouTube channel and you've very much got it all dialled in very compelling thumbnails and I think thumbnails was like if you look at it as its own fucking like, are sitting at a desk, right? Yeah, so
yeah, I feel like you do it in a put a picture so save your talk about like, whatever Justin Bieber verse Tom Cruise, but you need to put a picture of Justin bass and Tom Cruise in the thumb. Now we shouldn't wait covering that PayPal. PayPal was so thick though. Those two people will click.
Like honour all those words? Yeah.
How much do you think about it
though? Like a huge balls? Yes. I think what's what would I click on? I'm like, I do I get sucked in by and stuff. We all do that. You see something pop up on your homepage? That seems juicy. You know? And you're like, I've got I've got four minutes. I could I could watch that. Everyone does that. So you just gotta think about people's habits and what's gonna get people in but also Don't try too hard. Because, like, you'll say get you put off the tour.
And I think that's why we're at the moment with it. Which is
what we may be ready to win the masses
or have the I think also no one gives a shit you win the masses because no one really cares. Like, if I'm a fan of you guys. I'm like, Oh, Tommy and Josh to like this. This super click by the thumb now I'm not watching it at principle. Yeah, no one's thinking that everyone just goes I'll watch it anyway. Yeah,
so too. Yeah. I think that that's like one of the storeys that were constantly pushing back on that we need to ourselves is probably limiting beliefs around our we don't do that or like it
was a thing five years ago. Yeah. But since if because everyone's doing it now. The only way to get views and
what you just do it, what do you feel that internal pushback on, like you said, anything that you feel like is a bit gross that you have to do, because I think people don't like to be self promoting. there's a there's a sense that you know, people have a filter, I
walked away from radio based on x, y and Zed like side with the regional stuff that really doesn't fit. So we've got to live with that stand
up we that the end of the day, we pretty much went into a couple of meetings, and it was pretty that was essentially saying a nice way. Yeah, there's going to be a fork in the road. But you have to pick between standard radio. And obviously everyone on radio is like, and I'm pretty sure it's obvious which one yeah. And they're all going it's right here. And we're just like, no, it's not like yeah, this is a side project and stand up.
Yeah. And so what is that? To to Jay's point?
The self promotion? What What do you cringe at What don't you like doing?
I mean, I don't learn like self promoting no one's like, oh, swap out, check out the new podcast. But I
also saw some people convincing me but I also want
people to watch it. So therefore, I'm happy to do it. And I know it works. And I'm happy to plug my merge because it you know, it's how it's an income stream for me. And I feel like the days of being shameless is almost over even with your audience. No one cares. Yeah. As long as you don't push stuff every single day people I'm conscious of how much I push things, people to buy things, you know, and how much I push people to watch a certain thing because there's a time where it's too much.
Yeah, well, I remember the getting a lot of Insta ads of the tambourine
stuff does that is that but yeah.
I think that's just like
my management over
Yeah, no, I think that it's I think it's funny what he bought. Yeah. No, but I think that no, it's an interesting
like, see, I have the same Yeah, I guess a part of it is like the when we think that we're getting tired of them as creators, it's only just getting cut through from papers, which I think is part of it too. Literally. The reason I realised is I do 20 1520 knots whatever the comedy fest and can guarantee awake after I finish you'll always get five messages going sir. Oh, you never do shows in Melbourne. Why don't you do chosen? Oh, yeah. Just did Melbourne from Yeah,
what about what about saying the same thing? I mean, a comedy special an hour. You're not coming with a new
hour every day? How do you do an hour?
I wonder if there's any comedians that say I don't do it twice. That's
pretty crafty. You're saying how? That's why it's ridiculous about abroad.
You just do you have to?
Do you feel bad?
That's a comedy when it
doesn't work special. That's
what no I do. I can watch like, what would you know you
like laughing saying the same thing to feel. You know, some people might come a couple of times. I mean, you're going to get that person is not a comedian.
Okay, I people come to my show three times this year, and I love it then I almost love hotter because they want to bring their friends and second time. And they know the bit. But you're gonna laugh at the punch lines on a given day. No, no, no, really? Yeah, I've had people predict punch lines before and that's when you know, it's a bad punch line when everyone's thinking that you are and it's judge that men have been leading up to a jerk and someone she had at the punch line. I've just been like, yep, there it is.
The relationship with hecklers?
I don't mind Yeah. I just love like, I don't mind people contributing because I again, I like doing crap.
Have you ever done improv?
Know? Which is what you do? Basically?
Yeah, I just I find that interesting. I've gone to a couple of those like, I can literally like it's pushed as improv and I
have one class one bed like I was at like a university thing for another thing. And it was like an hour of the day was an improv class and I ended up writing a bit about it. That's thing whenever I do something weird like that, I usually just do it for a bit or
I may say always be contented. Is that how you approach most situations in life?
I mean, it's you don't want to live your life like that but it's always in the back your head of like not when you're in the situation maybe afterwards you like Was there anything in that? Yeah, I think if you go there going, like was the content and you're looking for
it. We have you like I had to bring my girlfriend told me a storey two days ago, or like, I was like, it was all happening in front of the house. Like thinking to myself, this is gonna be fucking great for the podcast. And Brady literally said she said, by the way, can't mention any of this on the podcast. Yeah, I mean, do you have case? Do you have cases like that?
Of course I my friends think that like a lot of us go abroad. Don't talk about this. I'm like, Yeah, you're not that interesting. I wasn't good. But like you do get paid for like all the people who think you know, they say some especially old people, old people always make the joke of like they do some funny or whatever. Like they spilled my coffee. Like don't use this in your like, I wasn't my mom's onto
a nasty stack put this on the podcast.
Yeah. Which we've done. We've done a couple of she didn't blow up about what did we mentioned.
I secretly recorded her saying what looking at a photo of Josh when he was really fat. He's very fat. wasn't he?
actually put it up online, it would
be even better. But then she said after he's, he's looking great or something now, you know, looking right now. So she
what's the from a community point of view? comedy community, the podcasting community? How do you feel like you're in a unique position of being able to say we don't do comedy? We like the idea. I like the idea of like, being out on the road. Mainly. I like the idea of one storey. Yes. Just being in a car. And just having some snacks and going to like the next year
I did do that. I use like fly everywhere because it's just so big. But I did the last couple of shows my tour I did all bring camera and the one weekend. And it's not like it's
the draw like city
where I drove from camera to Melvin like seven hours and I was like this. Were you on your own now? Is it my girlfriend? Okay. No, she was just like, it's more dislike, you know, attacking tears and drive. Yeah, sure. You got like four hours in and I've never listened to a true crime podcast. But we started out homeless. Let's just walk What else would you say? Well, what's this series? down? I'm like, into like, Man on the winner. I'm like, I'll play it play the next I'm unlike so
you know, this is? This is kind of boring.
Anything over two hours of a drive to start to get.
But so the community bit Do you find that? Uh, you were how many clubs? Can you do it a night? Is that even a thing in Australia? I think
most of it is like three or three in Melbourne. I'd love to go to New York and do like seven a night. Yeah. Cool. How long are the bits that you do? Yeah, us like 10 minutes. Okay. 510 minutes spots in Melbourne. And yeah, then like, you know, but as you go up into gigs, interstate sometimes, like last couple weeks ago was in Gold Coast, you know? So you get like some more headline spots if you go into state and stuff so you can do longer. That's why I go just to work on material.
Yeah. And so who do you hang out with? Like, what's the what's the actual experience outside of those five or 10 minutes but
I mean, I usually just go there doing my in Melbourne, I just go do my time and like talk to a few Canadians and head off.
It's just a lot it's a lot of thinking right? Like it's your head. Your brain need to be firing properly to make it all work right
becomes habit when you're doing new stuff. Definitely. Yeah, what did I think of again, like you write it down early, and you're like, oh, how did it go in the woods? Because if you might have one word and a joke, it can sometimes ruin the entire Joe. Yeah. So yeah, you gotta be on it for sure. But then most of the time what you've done a bit that many times I could just you know if you will, like All right, welcome, says look, kid you're right now I could probably just do 20 minutes. All right, good.
Who is the who's someone within the industry that is has either helped you or have just been super super nice. Backstage I feel like comedy gets a bit of a bad rap in regards to the bit fucking bitchy. There's a
lot of that. But there's also so much of the opposite. Yeah, who are
they? Who are some of those epic people
so when I really started obviously, Lewis was one of the first people I met and he was had been doing it for belong to the main I was very new. He was really good to me, which is why we became good friends. But people who like people would know who great like Nick Cody has always been awesome to me. He was the reason why I started stand up. Yeah, let's see show at the 2015 it was the first ever stand up shot of a saint. And then three months later, I was I was Mark not giving it a go.
I he's he's always been really good to me. He's a really cool dude.
And I could just, there's a lot of people
I don't know, mentioned a lot of names. But yeah, cuz I remember he's like that chapel at the comics lunch, he's always been awesome to me.
It's just so many people have to keep saying that I'm gonna miss.
Well, I did a behind the scenes of a comedian a few years back. And I did this bit I remember in the comics lounge, or behind the scenes filming before the person came on. And there was a comedian who was like interacting or whatever, within the video. And then I would like interacting with the person that I was filming, who's the video was for this person talks in it and all that sort of thing. Anyway, that video, put it up. And then I get, like, we get messages being like, Hey, you don't have permission to have that online. And so we had to type down the video and all that sort of thing,
like, a person hit the videos.
Yeah. And so I feel like those in the video. Yeah. And I think that like, it's such a common common occurrence. I feel like that the reason that sort of I feel like with implying in that same you have to be talking a certain way to be very careful of like, Oh, this person sensitive about this and they don't like these
people are reluctant to I think a lot of people just say what way like particularly the online guys put out a lot and like oh, that's them and then, like I'm pretty probably pretty similar to what I put out online in real life. But I think a lot of people just really reluctant to embrace the online thing even still cheekily in the stand up circuit. Because I think there's just like a I think they think like we're cheating or like we're jumping a queue. Or like what but I don't think there is a cute there's no, there's no few anymore.
There's also the I mean, authenticity is a word highly used these days that lost a bit of its meaning, but there is if you're online if you're doing what you're doing, yes, creating this much content. It's hard to be a phoney it's hard to not be the guy that's appearing and some of these people have got this set maybe these old school comedians there you see them the way that you do
it's a lot of the ones coming up as well like they want to be on the gala like I've no really no desire to be on the Comedy Festival Gala ever because it's like well, I might I might stand up clips get millions of views on Yeah, so it's like they're getting more plays from a more target demographic online. What I want to be on the eBay say
not not the ABC. What's the point? Obviously a cool gig. It hasn't paid well but other than that, yeah,
yeah prestige is that hanging on to an old idea? What infuriated me the most was a radio article article written by roots radio website talking about you know, radio still the way most people consume their music, it's not the fucking stat that they pulled from I'm
looking at over 50s
a survey of 2000 people that's where they got that study from Yeah, I mean, that's 2000 people was representing Australia there's 400 million Yeah, but also young people don't want to complete survey so it doesn't actually true but there's like all you have to do is look at Spotify. Yeah numbers in Australia is huge millions and millions of subscribers so there's you fuckin answer yeah Bates yet radio
there's a lot of people who don't like I thought I'm going to cover a lot of shit for from maybe after show is going to be a lot of people who mock me for releasing a comedy special myself, you know, this guy, whatever, it doesn't deserve mine. And it's like, well, I still go to gigs all the time. I gig like four nights a week at least like minimum. So I'm always working at stand up. So it's like, if I'm in an opportunity where I can do that myself and while it's I think it's insane as to why wouldn't you have a little bit of lash back under the surface from other comedians like or because you know, promoters the comedy special, they probably viewed as a thing where it's like, you know, 10 years in your Netflix company special?
I think they right. And you're also right, you're both right.
I agree with that. I totally get why they think that because it the old way was like you know, you get good enough Comedy Central gives you a special HBO gives you a special but it's like, the game's changed.
If you think about it if you're in a cafe and you're lining up somewhere and because you think there's a line and then some fuckers just walk in then you discover that the reason I line but you've been lining up you're going to be a little bit pissed off right? Yeah. Literally like don't get me started I've actually whitelisted of blacklisted hash in the city fuck you hash. I crew I had a line I was the first in the line. This was Sunday morning ticket system that wasn't fucking ticket system bs I just outside like they can serve us outside. The thing was there was no fucking line outside. And so we went out and there was like six pack and people
were getting rubber ball if I've been lining up and there's only one checkout register and then they opened another one that came behind me jumps to that
to that bro Absolutely.
Should be the advocate shipping over there. Yeah,
yeah. I feel like I learned that it calls in devil hills mom taught me young that you know the the person who's at the front gets to go in so it should
I mean, I mean, these are unwritten rules of the world.
But also the other unwritten rule. Always put your hand stuff at the front. And the light stuff at the back. So much they're packing is Yeah, no, no, it's because you don't want to squash your eggs and stuff you want like the if you put if you put something to
your benefit not for the are definitely
it's a rule of life. Like Did you know that or no?
Um, yeah, I guess I knew that better. Usually. I never go to a low because I still live live at home. No time ever buy stuff in the shop says I'm never getting more than a basket full of stuff. Yeah, like 12 items, at least. I mean, that's the thing anyway, you can never get what do you love? I'm just like, you know, parents go away. Even when like my mom's I go on holidays, whatever. I will not go into a weekly shop. I will go every day to the shops. Like, just stuff by name for the next 48 hours.
It becomes a ritual. Yeah, we've done that. But then it was like, yo, it's impractical. We think it is actually just entertaining. It's like he can run up the aisle. It's like how you like, well, he loves my son loves the supermarket. So he wants to go but then he fucking just goes down the yoghurt Island smashes yoghurts. But no, I'm saying we can say supermarket. Better.
So what's the sorry, the podcast, the comedy stuff? What else gala special that you're vying for? Yeah.
Yeah. What else? Is it? What else is in the works? What are you prioritising? Just getting Luke and Lewis off the ground. We you know, want to say where we can take that and then the tour next year and just keep a proud Oh, I really want to prioritise podcasting over maybe YouTube videos and stuff, I guess is the wild one go down. I think I like doing the long form content moving, sitting there writing a video about the bachelor or whatever.
Yeah, you thinking money? Like he's is that a part of that equation?
No, no, not at all. I just, it's what I like doing. Yeah. And I think that's what's the content that I like, consuming is like podcasts and stuff, all my other favourite comedians like Theo van and crystal air, all those American guys. They're doing that. And that's what I like. And Jimmy. So it's like, well, I just want to make what I like, I guess. Yeah, it's a good it's probably nobody, actually, the moment the money move is probably to make sure to contact the land. And you know,
but I don't know if it's fulfilling, right. I think if you win the otherwise, if you get, you're going to try to options in order short of winning either way. Yeah. So if you were to do the thing if I can live every day, yeah. And have that win. Who's laughing now? Exactly.
Yeah, I feel like,
yeah, you were given the crack. Well, you
wouldn't do it seven days a week if you didn't enjoy.
Sitting here. Sad or upset? Or if
I think Yeah, I think that's the big key. And it's like, even we launched our new website, the daily talk show.com earlier in the week, and it's like, there's so many things that are impact perfect with it, or even like we filmed an episode earlier in the week where the camera was slightly tilted, or things like that. It's like, these things will happen. This is part of the part of the journey.
And it's, I guess, it's like, a lot of people are trying to seek that perfection Nicole episode. Yeah,
called the 45. to grip. So low snow actually had an idea where to do an episode in like, like 140 pe like, so make it like pixelize. And just do like the 145 episode, and just try and get your shit a quality as possible. Put the glasses on. That's legit, by the way, just like what we always think of like weird ways we can get people's attention and my you know, it wouldn't be good to have to every time but you know, for 30 minutes or an hour, you know, what's watch us in one?
Click, you know,
that's the only benefit.
It's solid. No, that's right. What's the What's your relationship with like, perfectionism? I need to get over that.
I'm focused too much on trying to be perfect. Sometimes it takes me two days to edit a 10 minute video, you know, like as I go through it, and when it's done, I should put it out and be funny if I change that by three frames, idiot. No, yes.
Well, I think that's part of the US doing the show daily. That's a thing that we just have to get used to is it's like it's more about output. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's, I would say content is better than no content. Sometimes. I like not put out a video because I don't think it's done yet. Yeah, but it's like I know again, people and I even know what I consume content. You just like Well, that was funny. Alright, next. No one thinks about it. Yeah. As much as you do. Yeah, I don't care.
Yeah. I think it's I think the other interesting thing is that the as we build audiences, people care about different stuff as well. So something will say will resonate it's like the annoying people with the manual catalyse.
Some people would would have been like really hated listening to that earlier and then I'm sure this vevo person going you know, they probably laughed at the manual thing. Yeah. Mike in traffic, but fuck you talking about fake hell? Yeah, that's what I find all the time is you talk about four different things in an episode and I've no idea what's gonna be the one that really resonates. Yeah, cuz I'm like, I think this one's funny. But other people might think that is Yeah,
do you What were you gonna say? I was just gonna say you learn quick that what you feel about something isn't how everyone else does?
Sure. And I think that's good. And I that's why I always throw it out there like you know people will have a lot of people are getting death threats for about a week like legitimately death threats from race car, guys. Like had day and stuff, which is insane. Yeah. Because I what I said was if you're not that bad, I was just going like, it's the future you're living in the past. And death threats awake. And I just think like, that's people. We are not a people weird, but also, not everyone's going to agree with you, even when you're joking. You're talking about so something so much so like, Just don't let it faze you. Yeah, like just don't like if you say, say your opinion for sure. That if people don't agree, you can't get mad at other people for disagreeing.
I think it also changes when you're actually in the arena and doing stuff. All of a sudden, I think your perception of other people changes to like, I think we're way more sort of empathetic with what people are doing where it's like, yeah, rather than getting mad been like, Oh, actually, I sort of understood.
An angry comment and anything. Yeah, never. I never felt the need to be like, this sucks. Like something. I won't even dislike a video. I'll just quit out of it. Yeah, enough for me. Yeah.
It shouldn't talk to leave a scathing comment. And
that's you, we'd think to do yeah, I think
well, that there is a Yeah, because I think about it, like the most dislikes we've had in a video might be two dislikes. You think about that. Yeah. No, I just think i think i think the interesting thing is it's like on a practice like if you got a death threat
Well, I like this place down security guards.
Definitely. Well with nearly there.
I think I'm enough to the fake health thing. I got death threats from moms Really?
Yep. Well, I get it what they thinking this sound on my kid had a
fast and you're like a doesn't try hard enough.
But I think that yeah, it's um,
I think a lot of people thought I was making fun of people with learning disabilities, which I absolutely wasn't. Yeah, my point was vape. Hell is a waste of time for a lot of people doesn't mean you're dumb if you do it.
Yeah. Yeah, I guess like, it's, it's also understand, like, I look at the dislikes, I look at that stuff. And I think like, not for them. Like the stuff that we created even for that, like, we're not creating something for everyone. And so sometimes people will land on our video. That's actually it's not meant for them. And that's all they're identifying is it's like, out of the whole algorithm out of the internet. Yeah, they landed on it. And I guess what ends up happening, and I've noticed this with friends with brands, I had one friend the other day say, we're, um, we're getting bigger. But one thing I'm noticing is there's more triangles coming out and questioning us and it's like, well, the more you have the
wider audience, he writes, I think about society. You gotta like there's a lot of Phuket if you've only got 10 people you talk to you know, there might be one Phuket in the group, yeah, but if you then, right, yeah, that's what 1000 people. When you go to a show, and you know, you start I didn't used to have any hecklers in the first two years now that I'm doing biggest shows, you know, you go to like a big room in Brisbane or whatever. There's gonna be one person that sucks. Yeah.
What is it? Like? What kind of a person is a heckler? who's like, that's drunk? You to drink drink? drunk? Is it? Yeah,
yeah. Or drunk? No. They usually that they're not. They don't think that they think they're contributing. No one actually no one really tries to I've never got anyone going like you suck.
It's that's why you fighting gone wrong.
I think I think I wonder if it's premeditated. I'm gonna come here.
No, I think it's 100% project. I think it's like they're projecting experience that they're having. And I guess like jack post talks about it where it's like, in a on an HOA, they could be play fighting. And then on Instagram, he'll do a post and then someone be trolling him about something when he's house or whatever it is. And it just misses the MMA. And it's based on they see the play fighting Yeah, they're just a bit fucking socially awkward and
people don't know how to some people just aren't funny. And that's fine. But there Yeah, then they come in I get that a lot of people can try and be get a lot of comments. I know they're trying to be funny, and they're trying to have a playful dig it Yeah. Be like, they just have to say something like so unfortunately. And so boring. The like, just like reflects more on your personality. Does my video Yeah, absolutely. But, you know, it's it's an interesting thing with the heckler thing. I think a lot of people think they're contributing but I don't think anyone goes out of their way to ruin it. I think it's like a lot of people that are because it is a glorified thing of like comedian verse heckler. Yeah a lot of people don't know a lot about somebody go like I get a little bro like I get messages Go man come when you come to obey just bought tickets. I'm going to heckle you. Haha yeah.
They do think it's like a cool
they could do.
A lot of people do like to heckle you and then they don't, or they do and then they go. they realised as soon as that this isn't
just back right down. I think a lot of people fantasise the idea of being a funny heckler. Yeah. No, I lost like a
host setup is usually the comedian comes out on top that's the whole thing with your mom
with the microphone.
The audience and happy like you
everyone's caught especially with your show ever. See you not saying the guy who you know it's paid 30 bucks to see some dude yell out.
Thanks for coming on made me if you if you're listening on Apple podcasts, give us a review. But also type in Luke and Lewis on Apple podcast. Are you going to visit a new feed that you're having the same feed so I'm fade I'll
go back and catch up on all the radio if you really want Yeah, a year and a half of us disrespecting amateur radio station if you want to go listen to that, but
it'd be interesting. I'm curious to hear the contrast.
I'm someone who knows what it's gonna be. I think I'm very excited about it. We also use the same sign people as you so really good song.
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favourites? I know for a fact he hasn't. Hey, guys.