#427 – Beating The T&Cs/
- August 17, 2019
We’ve got the whole team on for Weekend Banter. We chat about 7-Eleven’s free KeepCup coffee, Scooter Derek and Josh’s food diary and Facebook’s new augmented reality tool.
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show we discuss:
– 7-Eleven’s free KeepCup coffee
– Social media
– The Good Paddock food diary Scooter Derek
– Content and AR
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Food Diary: https://instagram.com/tgpfood
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It's a daily Talk Show Episode 427 it's weekend Banta we got
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the full gronk squad we're in matching. We look like a bunch of orange. Yeah, but they look the same. My point is there's like uniformally. Yeah, we've got our uniformity down to a fuckin tape, actually down to a hoodie.
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Have you? Has anyone been cold out in public, of wearing their hoodie? And anyone asking about it? I better
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pay. But you know, it's so easy when someone says to you like, what is it? It's a podcast? Where do I find it? I've like had two people take a photo of my hoodie because the logo is the web address to find the fucking podcaster It's amazing. And we are closing off the orders in the next couple of days. So today's Saturday, the hood is a 60 bucks. If you want one. It's the first time we've ever ever done much so you are a part of and the last time
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hyperbolic to be in all honesty we want to the hoodies for another at least a year but we'll do
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and they won't be the same. Yeah, different. So we want to try and do something different each time with a T shirt will
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eventually do t shirts for summer
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or do things relating to the the seasons isn't gonna be worn in summer because it's fucking so snug. Could we
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could we do a Hawaiian style show? The summer with daily talk show.
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do right now. What are you doing?
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I can't tell you to spread.
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I think they would have worked out with you through a deal is that when you say I can't tell you it's because you don't know but you don't know. It's just that.
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In this case, I do know okay, but I can't I can't show you right now. Okay. Yeah,
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man like surprises. So yeah, yeah,
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sorry. Anyway, go to the daily talk. show.com forward slash hoodies. Get your hoodies where you a friend of mine. She just messaged it got mine. I said it's gonna be you're gonna fucking love it. Yeah. So it's also been comfy. I mean, we're being wearing them every single day. You know what I rattled me. Remember when I was walked into the office on Thursday just been to a shoot at country road. They've just launched the brand new store. I'm talking with the managing director all these high flyers, you know, I had some sheets of my jumper. Yeah. And you guys and this is when you know you've you've got some good mates or just someone that likes to point out flaws. You said? What's that?
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Was that made that said then I think I think
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I thought I definitely thought
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Did you say do I saw it? And I thought it but you were busy. I don't
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know. What distracts me is not being told and then working and I've got a team of gronk that won't tell me a brand so bad. And I can just imagine these you know these important people that are country record I just thinking he's like this fracking gronk in the doctor,
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we need something more premium that we can where we need like the daily talk show blazer
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for corporate Sure. Yeah, yeah, we probably do need something.
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I don't know if I can wear it on Monday. Yeah,
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well, I reckon I was pushing it wearing it country road because everyone was kitted out. And country rock. Did anyone sign a thing about the day? Yeah, I had lots of great conversations about the show because it is a talking point. So
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the thing is that Mike? Yeah, I mean, that's not a graduate. I was gonna say, look, what's the worst thing that high?
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country right, I tell
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you. I've been drinking coffee from a cape cap. And the only reason I've been drinking coffee from a cape cap is because I've been getting free coffee from 711.
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It's the most rankle looking cup.
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Cape caps Brian,
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okay cup. It's like the Kleenex. It's like the Hoover, the, you know, the Dyson, Cape cups. There's a bunch of different cape cats. But anyway, at the moment they're doing, this is not an ad. I'm purely tackle that I'm purely taking advantage of something that's for free. And I'm taking serious advantage of this. So I want to run something by you that I that I want to know whether you think it's right or not. Yeah. So for the month of August, leading into September, they're doing free coffee for anyone who brings in a cape cap. So the first time I went in, I'm like, feels a bit weird. Like I just acknowledge the guy at the front. And then I kind of like as I'd finished I just kind of acknowledge him again to say I was hoping he didn't call me and say Matt,
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and what did he say
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by just walked out with a coffee and I was like, that feels like stealing. But then I got comfortable and a bit confident as I do. And I took these back in this cape cup you can you could fit like a extremely large coffee in here. So what I ended up doing was I was like, the the $1 coffee. If you get a latte to me because I drink strong coffees
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tastes like hot milk. If you've just been shoving Snickers bars into the doesn't count.
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I remember as a kid, there was some young gronk
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so y'all fly me to
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some young gronk would push stuff into this Slurpee. They big Slurpee and hide it in their horror like that. I think that stealing,
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but I want to know if
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I want to know if
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I want to know if this is not the right thing to do. So I take my cabin, I put it under I press a small, short black, so it spits out it's short black, which is usually if you press the dollar and then do that it's $1 and then I leave my cup there and I go again. I go $1 and then I go latte and then it spits out another shot and it's a latte. I think that's fine and so now I've got a which wouldn't make sense if I did it with a $1 cap but I've got to one dollars within this
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they have a any sort of communication around one purpose and
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one day it doesn't say that so I read the T's and C's and all it says is you need to be written using a cape cap was something similar that's us using recycled plastics or glass and cup the
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ceramic mug you think it was if
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it was recycled material so that's the whole thing they try to use them get people to use it recycled material cup so this would be something this is yeah use recycled fucking plastics that I didn't actually
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know that they were made of recycled plastics.
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Well that's what they reckon though that's a good point because if all of them aren't then the people that are using the ones that aren't recycled plastic or steel my direct jerking
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I could go in there with a glass jar and fill it up I think you do a lot I think they can have
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this is the thing when you put T's and C's that I just to be loosely washy yeah gronk like ass will take full advantage. So
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I made a gronk more likely to read T's and C's or not
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most likely not to read T's and C's unless you're trying to beat the system. Yeah,
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in that case your
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and so I feel like there's nothing stating that I can't press it, you know the machine and put through multiple cups of coffee into the one cup. What do you think?
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Yeah, I wonder how much it cost them. Can we do the math? How much it costs them for what I don't know how much his whole campaign would be costing seminar event? Ah,
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so many times have you on in this one? How many?
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So I've had like four coffees this week.
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And so let's imagine that they
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what a million
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I did. It was in that video I made there on that. So I think is I'll look it up you keep going
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so what I'm curious like because there's going to be a bunch of people who like tissues they're not like the caps and pay for all that sort of thing
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to be honest that it has been really busy and people not using
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a relapse so I've only seen a bunch of people how do you how do you check out do you just go up to the black and be like I've got a cape now just the two waved goodbye
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Yeah, I kind of you can do the right thing. Hold it up and say CM I said it made sure I've engaged with them each time just in case they're like
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yet they haven't at Munich airport. They have free coffee machines. That's fine. So that's
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that's quite nice. It's a huge marketing campaign that's I think probably
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pretty for Munich as well for a few minutes.
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I mean, there's I'm gonna go for the freedom
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I feel like three day deal would be joining us for the first time especially if you're coming off the back of Zack foster Blake did an Instagram post and it's it's gone gone off in regards to listenership so if you're new, this probably makes no sense to this whole thing. We don't understand today that Yeah, I'm Tommy. That's Josh. I'm Josh. Missing ICF three day deal. Yeah. Three day deal last week. Basically got invited by one of our good mates uncle trade.
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trade. He's the basic that so it's not he was King gronk which we've removed all hierarchy. Yeah.
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So now we're just doing it. So everyone's gonna be vying for gronk grandpa Sorry, I said Uncle Uncle invited three day deal up organisers hotel and what sort of thing. The bit that was missing in the whole piece was ready to do. It's lacking experience in the hotel department assumed that everything in the hotel room was free, including the minibar and the breakfast, racked up a bill of over $230 and that went on two trips. Yeah, credit card. And so we have like, behind the scenes of banks and trip seriously, let us pie you went above and beyond he paid for your business. Business Class flights getting there return
10:02
is a lovely hotel.
10:03
Yeah. And so what we decided was that three day deal, we'll do a live rate we've never done our live rate on the daily talk show.
10:13
I mean, deal has managed to for our first piece of advertising on the show, give it away for free. Yeah, I was hoping for making some money from advertising. That's usually what's
10:26
meant to have it well Now we're just paying our debts.
10:29
Alright, so Friday deal I've written so I asked.
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Yeah, I'm cool trying to give us a script or whatever. He's basically the passing of the bill, bro. And so so I've given you a script based on what I think would work. Yes. Yeah. And so TJ you've You're the one with the radio experience.
10:55
Yeah, so long Yeah, live radio usually slotted one seen like a an ad bright an ad block. So five minute block, and it would be at the front so can come off the show into that or it could be the last one. It just the library they usually you know the voices of the show. Hamish and Andy Hamish or Andy might be reading it on both together and so we're just dropping it smack bang in the middle. Yeah, and I don't know how we're going to transition into it I think it's just going to be
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no threat to deal with what's happening at your end.
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Oh, I mean not to be fair before before No, no, I will get into that but to be
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so well received
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but um no i did reach out to Travis and said like like let me pay you back he said like he he refuses every like we've all tried to pay trip back Yeah,
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so um but no trauma like there's gonna be no trauma from all right here we go.
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So I'm
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so ready deal what what's been happening this week? I'm not shown
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Trevor last
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wouldn't I wouldn't
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do it as sort of like a kid you show up in Fordham they would bend forward and do it at the radio exactly like that. He would yell a lot louder. Okay, cuz he's got a presence. He's got to realise that maybe just to your normal presence, so it doesn't feel like an ad. You shouldn't feel like an atom. No. Okay, here we go.
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these gone a bit off. did not say keep on kicking. I know you didn't know. Yeah,
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yeah, we would get in a lot of trouble if we went off script in the live raids because they're paying specifically for for the words and what about
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Yeah, but they're also like time
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time? Yeah, very much. Like sometimes I'd have to speed up like you'd, you'd be getting halfway through and then you have to stop saying more words together. And we're done.
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So I've this week, I've been taking a photo of my everything that I ate.
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Yeah, look, I'm a bit worried. Because it's been a big week for the team. Some great shows some great guests some great traction, to be honest on on the social medias. And, and I'd say you've gone from a week of about maybe 60% foot down when it comes to being on social media, managing social media to maybe 120. Yes,
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yes. And what's because I blocked everyone out of the Instagram account.
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Yeah. Which is a tonne of the storey now the storey in itself, but I mean, the mental health around being, you know, 60% more engaged in social media. What do you think for yourself? How have you handled it? I mean, food wise. No, I mean, just for social media, social media, the what you've done because this food thing really?
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Good. It's been good, like the catalyst. There was anxiety and the catalyst which was going into dams and being like this, that you know, the bystanders syndrome, which is literally a thing, which is like when someone's fucking dying on the street. I know what you're doing. Yeah, I'm calling triple zero. Yeah. But there's, like people, that the other person's doing it and all that sort of thing. And so what happened is we opened up the Instagram account for all of us to be in there and doing stuff. But then what happens is that we assume that like, even if we open a DM, it's like, oh, this is actually a good one for Tommy to write back to. I'll just leave that there. For here more. I'll like that thing. But I'm no, I won't write back. And so I was thinking, you know what, we need to be way better on of it. with it. It's easier for me to do it. And then if there are certain things where I'm like, Oh, this is actually for Tommy, I can then say, Hi, this is for you. Well, this is a three day deal. What this is for 97. Any shift in mental states based on more engagement, so it's so much easier. Yeah, like I feel so much nicer. Because literally, when I go on Instagram, I know what I think that the stress was working out what we had said on social media. And so what frame I need to be in to be responding. What have we put out? What What have we said, who have we damned. Whereas now, I know that like the last time anyone's heard from the daily talk show was when I was in the app. So I'm just picking up the conversation. So it's way less sort of like, because if you think of it like this happens, I think with everyone, like any business, it's got a heap of people working on it. It's like, the content, like understanding the context of where everyone else is, is is quite hard.
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Yeah. I mean, when, when big brands are on social media, I always feel like if you get a response, you know, say 711 has written to us 100 times. I'm always like, the next person that then responds, after I've responded to them is actually different person. Yeah. So it's like, you never know if you're actually speaking to the same
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thing. So if social media is all about being social, imagine if you're having a conversation at a table. And every time after you talk, you'd like sort of move your eyes and someone else's, they're just acting as if they're the set. Like it's funny. Yeah. So that's part of it. And so I think what it will end up moving to is that, no, we don't have a roster or anything, but I think we'll have times where it's like, okay, one of us is in there to Taiwan, just be me, because it was my hypothesis. I feel like I can't be like, wouldn't make sense for me say Tommy, you need to look out after it. I didn't actually do it yet to test it. Yeah.
17:02
I was just thinking for this one. I reckon if we can ask him to shift it to horizontal.
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Yeah, so we want to call Derek.
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Yeah, that's fine. We need to start the call before we do it. So screwed Derek. Give me two seconds. Let's hopefully get some face time. So we can banter is a little bit looser, guys. Yeah, hence why we can do this on and switch off. It doesn't matter.
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Derek is the one that Josh is doing this. Bit of a food mission with
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today. Derek, there we go. Hang on, hang on.
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I think you need to turn over turn around define.
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But I just spent half an hour sitting up
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on that, but I want it to be can you try and do that landscape thing again?
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Yeah. That's
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on the screen. Derek there is. There's a stream on the screen. Derek there is a button that will flip it so you don't have do what you're doing.
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This is calling
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to Derek is currently trying that. I think that's fine. We can deal with vertical phones.
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So Derek,
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is that go to tech guy? How are you? Okay.
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So I was on your podcast, the good paddock during the week. What was the challenge that I said?
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It was it was awesome. Josh, and it's going well. It's exhausting. It's trying to get my headphones to work.
18:44
Okay, no, I have to say he's really cool. I mean, you. Can you hear us now through the headphones. You've currently got noise cancelling headphones. So you had noise cancelling headphones on, and it's coming out of your phone and so you couldn't hear it. But you can hear us now Okay, taking the headphones off.
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So lucky. This is all heavily edited.
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Josh came on the show to give you I don't know if you discussed it. But Josh came on the show. My idea is to have someone on the on the show and it every week, they've got to give me a manageable sustainable school task. If you like like a doable task that will help not just not not help me lose weight, or other people, whoever's involved, but also possibly help change behaviour. What was the word you use? I'm loving it. I'm using it everywhere. Now.
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What was the Keystone habit?
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Keystone I loved it sounded really, really Pro. Anyway, so I love I love I love it. I'm using that. And Josh is one was you have to take a picture of everything you can see. Yeah, everything you wait or drink.
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I guess it doesn't matter for water. Yeah. Can I ask you? Can I waive that for cups of tea? Yeah, taking photos. The coffee
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now? Yeah, nine cups. Now. Well, you know, I've been doing it for lattes and stuff. But for black. I think anything that's just like black coffees. You're fine. That's not like if you're getting fed off black coffee. It's not a black coffee. And
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what about Steve shame instant coffee with a splash of milk.
20:32
Any milk? You know, I think you show you on it. Yeah. But anyway, like that. The issue is that I'm having issues doing all of this because it is a lot of work yesterday, you'll notice that because we had a big day fat Fridays we had basil Deliver us. Fresh brownies. We had Amy Baker's cookies. We had Bry give us Hey, Tiger. It was the post you were to put out a few posts
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because there were
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times she didn't say so that was so Friday. Like I think just because I fucked up once. I want to nip it in the body. nip it in the bud.
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Yeah. And then maybe, but
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maybe. Maybe you could take it. But
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it's a whole cultural expression. And the guy say?
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I think it is. I think he's bad. Today we go, but I enjoy three day deals got the same level of confidence. But
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yeah, I didn't say
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that's more like a jack Russell.
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So anyway, I'm going to continue doing it. But have you been posting your food? Yeah.
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Okay, great. I'll have a look.
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You're in the same Instagram account?
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Yeah. So we have an Instagram account, which is
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the picture of the knife on the black table.
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Okay, let's have a look. And how you finding this one non public, you can go to TTG p food, which is the good Paddick food. And you did steak sandwich, Derek and this is what happens we fucking forget to the photo.
22:10
And so so what's up? I mean, it sounds cool. It's the word call. But what what's the use of doing the shit?
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with mindfulness? Yeah, and so the thing is that I was thinking about every time I ate something yesterday, even though I didn't take photos, I'm not gonna be taking a photo. And it was just good, because I didn't realise like, the other thing is, I find that whenever I do this, I'm normally completely on track with my diet, or I like Yeah, when you're doing something for Instagram, it's like your highlights reel. Yeah. And so I was being very pedantic last week of just like he's literally everything so it's like, it was fascinating because I noticed I don't know if you notice this dark but it's like
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three days ago, I had like, just so much stuff like I started off with hardly anything.
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And then I like from 6pm I headline all of these things like yeah,
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and so that was good and then he can maybe hope that it shifts colour as well like I've gone from this all this process crap on race
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at all the the counselling, very orange,
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red,
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green photos grass.
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There was some bear I had some berries.
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It's not supposed to be self shaming, but it can it I
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guess it's maybe it's, it's it's putting a lens on it. It's bring a spotlight on it. Yeah. So what do you what have you found Derek through the experience?
23:36
A little bit of a little bit of laziness helps to like when I had a couple of days, sort of with a really bad cold and chest infection like lie on the couch and clover would just my daughter would just bring me and get me something to eat. she'd bring me a bloody ANZAC cookie or something.
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Substantial subsidises. You go.
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buddies copy of all the time.
24:03
Yeah, unless you start getting clover on the account posting on your.
24:10
And so all right, so how you going? Anyway, so the plan is the good Patrick podcast, you want to lose 30 kilogrammes. You've had three people on the show so far.
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Where are you at at the moment with things?
24:24
Like, again, I'm at the stage where I reckon I can take, start Ready, start forming some little complex media ideas and maybe put it out there to some other media's as well like, what is it project? Not about me? Definitely, the whole concept didn't come out as a Biggest Loser kind of vibe. Definitely not. Like if I'm,
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if I'm 125 kilos in a year's time, and the good panic is, is rocket
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I want to stay alive.
25:00
But uh, but I like I like the fact that because it's it's supposed to be about all the community and all the other things involved.
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That it's not necessarily a weed or fail kind of vibe.
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But I think that
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I think that you can show like, you're the prime example. Like, I think there is that level of not pressure. But through to really get the community engaged. Imagine what it's going to be like, if you really say the how many birds? Chicken?
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salad, you don't you don't hear it.
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noise cancelling headphones,
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get to children. Get noise Get it? I mean, the thing is, the the worry that I have with the celebration of the podcast is obviously when it when you want to focus on the shift to how much weight Have you lost so far? And how? And do you think that your be able to continue with these things and make the progress?
26:04
Yeah, I think it's gonna be about the little chat I have before the show and making sure no one, I really trapped myself when you said I was thinking about giving you 10,000 steps.
26:15
Steps is achievable. I think you'll get Yeah,
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I know. But at this stage of the project, the idea is that you think about 20 weeks time 20 things to do.
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And I guess you don't
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have that this is a because I think one of the things with all of this stuff is if you add too many things, you end up just failing. Why don't you have it on a rotation of three things. And then so next time, when you have someone on your show, you say what's the challenge, and then you have to get rid of one of the other existing ones. So then by the end of it,
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you end up with three habits
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that are actually working. That will be depended on the habit.
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Probably a good
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probably not a good process mentally to actually actively drop a good habit. You know, this call coming in
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the face time things interesting.
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But I like the idea that they're small enough to achieve in their head on.
27:19
All right, I've noticed you've been drinking one litre of water a day. That's great for you now consistently doing that. Because I could drink two litres a day easily and that I can also go the two or three days a week where I don't have a drop. Yeah. Except for coffees
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series. Is that true? You Josh jokes about piecing better, but you must be actually piecing better at that point. Things
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can happen you get busy. This is the point. Tommy, this is the this is my whole point. Like we know, we don't know why we like this. But we we know that was just somehow we got to a stage where there's little habits that become completely normal to normal people. Yeah, but we don't have rolling inside. It's about these tiny little steps of having a little routine makes all makes logical sense to normal people.
28:18
It will feed people I heard my name is Blake on using Kate a couple of days ago was talking about he's white guy and it was one of those things where it's just like, all of a sudden it just becomes normal to have a donut every day. Yes, I've got to have my donut.
28:33
Your form the habits and they're probably easier to form because there's a lot of reward in having a donut, just a sky. And so yeah, if it was easy and felt amazing. We could probably create a habit of drinking water. repetitively each day gave us euphoria. Yeah, I'm sure we'd fucking stick to it a lot. But it doesn't right. It helps you but the doughnut definitely makes you give you a spark. You feel fucking great. at the coffee shop in the morning. I'll do that tomorrow.
29:06
Like a 3pm I reckon is where so much damage happens. Yeah. Anyway, Derek will let you go with all the birds.
29:13
I would actually like to get into bird watching.
29:17
Have you ever done bird watching
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the opposite?
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Thanks, Derek. Have a good night. Thanks, guys. Yeah,
29:29
yeah, the opposite to boob watching. It's just the hunting parties and it
29:33
actually hunting so they hunt in Australia.
29:35
Yeah, you're not meant to I actually when I was in radio and shipping. Yeah. So when I was on right hand shipping. There was a What do you call it a little town cold. But nella was about an hour from ship. Yeah, and sparrows I think not Indian miners little Indian miners you know, they are not their introduced species and their past now handing out $50 per bird to capture get rid of and kill capture, like now, I think you had to kill it like they're a pest. So they say a lot of these places now. Let it happen. Right. So, I mean, you're hunting you can't just go into the bush and kill a kangaroo you can't just go into the ocean killer Do you need permits, permits and stuff and, and lots of places you can't do it in certain times. And so it regulated you so you can't just be out on your farm and shoot fucking cockatoo. I don't think it's okay. Yeah, maybe in the sense central Central Australia
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with a bit why but I guess well, yeah. If it unless they're a pass
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Exactly. Unless it's complete. Yeah, there's no point for us to kill a bit my brother. I mean, back in the day in Australia, before the gun laws before john Howard. pulled all all semi automatics in so there was that buybacks game. Like I remember why. My uncle had a shotgun. And he he's German guy Wolfgang, his name is and I was convinced he was like, No, this his first name.
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His first name was gang.
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It's a it's a very common German. Yeah. But he had a pump action shotgun, I think was back anyway,
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totally storey
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totally. Yeah. In my head. It was a pump action that you could do with your hand like on shorts a because he sounded like Arnold. Like he was like a big, big guy. And I was convinced because I'd watch Terminator and I was like, this guy's shorts, he's got a shocker. And he had an air rifle as well. And we borrowed his air rifle. And my brother was young. And this is why you don't have a rifle. What's in it. So you use little pellets. Some of them you can load in actually bits of like a chicken feed that are like little cylinder. So you can push it, it's just a small little hole, that where you drop in a little pellet or just a little bullet, so they're not on them. They literally, it's like a high powered bb gun. Usually feed
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chicken with it. No
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shade. So chicken feed, if you ever seen that comes in little pellets. And so you could some of these get some of these, you could put those into shoot, right? You wouldn't want to get hit with the one in penetrate. But I wouldn't I don't think I'd go through you. Anyway, my brother had this mom and dad went out and he was young. And he got it. And he showed up a full little you know, like a little sniper sight out the back and just took out a whole heap of birds. And then he went inside crying. And he's and then he was crying about it make sense? I think I said this. Yeah. Anyway, anyone want to Pringle?
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Yes. But I would actually like Frank
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storey that I saved for the show. Pringles. My friend careem you've met come up on the mic. Oh, you like that? Yeah, sounds good. It's great to be the air and then another Sandy Matlock,
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my friend and I've gotten small.
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I don't have I told you
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out right, when I was on the project, and I know like
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Rick's name. Yeah,
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I was like Pringles my, the size of 50 cent coin.
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Well, I'll be able to work it out because it would fit perfectly on my tongue. Okay, yeah. So Kareem.
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Kareem, my mate told me that the way they did it in the commercials to get the sound of the crunch was actually to use your tongue. So you put it on detail. And then and then what you do is you crush the sheep with your tongue up to the top of your mouth. So like this.
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Oh, that sounds good. Wow.
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So now they get into TV commercials. Now that's cool. There we go.
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I love Island Ted. Thank you Tommy.
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Actually, jewels London taught me about if you want to. If you're feeling a bit conscious about you around your chin, place you're when you're taking getting a photo done. You put your tongue on the roof of your mouth, the back so you roll in the back ready. So I'll show so this is me normal.
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Yeah, right.
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And then this is doing tools such as London, you have to watch the video if you want it
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sideways. You just
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watch like this is no I'm looking
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in Negroni site get yet go and now. Oh, yeah. There is a slight difference. I knew a girl that would bite bite her cheeks. And so she I think it was to look a bit sexy. And then he said, this is normal. This is normal. Nobody takes this is body tricks.
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So comes right back, but I'm gonna try this. So I do it. Otherwise, no other way.
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Yeah, so yeah, that way. There you go. Yeah. Yeah, yep. And crush it with your tongue.
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Yeah, that was nice.
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So the way it did I put
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it what you're gonna throw up
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dates, right, the cheap and then get it watch this.
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First one was
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just a 97. What's been happening? What's going on?
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but not too much when it has this. I went out for dinner last night. Yeah. So I went I went to the
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sound like a bit. Oh,
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no, no, it's great. So I went out. I went out to the gym with Jason on dry. And then afterwards, there's this place down to the shops at my house with Harry's chicken. This
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sounds like an integration to be honest. But it live
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right? It's it's a gronk moving. It's a good little. Yeah.
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What you gotta do is they were it was like 830. And then we're closing in like 845. Nine. And we came in after our gym session and just totally swallowed his throat.
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Football.
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Yeah, anyway, so we went in and they were out of iOS, which was so disappointing
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because that's that's my go to flight in the day. They've done a shipping KF so you haven't made us they stopped.
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But also baby doesn't eat chicken off a bone.
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Yeah. That's right. Not on the button.
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On the bone, the bone. So you want you know,
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on the bottom while the
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bone it's no good. Okay. So GB, is that because he's got sort of a? It just reminds me of the chicken too much. Like you see like the leg and second like, yeah, anyway, um, no, but so they were out of us. And so I didn't end up having anything. I just sat down and Andrea and Josh Scott food, but the block was there and they had a souvlaki just sitting there. And he was like, someone actually didn't come and pick it up. I ordered it, but they never picked it up. And he's like, it's about an hour old. But do you want it? Like Yeah, I'll have it. So I gotta go to serve lucky. And then they had all these potatoes as like, we're just gonna throw them out. Do you want them? I was like, Yeah, sure. And then he had all this chicken. And he's like, do you boys want this and Jason Andre just like yeah, we'll take that and then he had all this salad as well. Yeah. And he was gonna beat it and he's like, do you boys want it so he just put it in a pika and took it up to
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be literally asked you like that like six times like it wasn't also
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because he staged cleaning I was more to the storey. He gave him the least to the business.
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yourself to the drink
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sorry actually no I'm not even kidding. He actually did that. Well I just took the drink he's like my crap drink if you want JND like notch like I've already taken my tried to stitch them source Yeah, but either he'd already thrown it out so he
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died at first if you wanted to because that's just going full generous because drink lovely
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chicken thighs cold Harry's she carries chicken Where's what's the
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dress right I don't know the address but it's a great phone shops
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right on born.
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Born Yeah. I will say though if that storey came from three they'll just think of a Tod aspect from you. We offer you so much stuff. And you knock back so many things like when a coffee drinking one. Na na na na ways that why do you knock knock us back?
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I feel I feel bad. I did feel it felt real awkward in bed like accepting
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it. Yeah, man you talking about like you giving it a good?
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He's gonna eat it. You know what I made? Like once once he's gonna throw it out. So I might as well make use of it. Whereas Yeah, there's like,
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so many reasons why. It's like, do you want a hot chocolate? Because I'm ordering when I'm going to check it out.
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I'll have it every time.
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Because he doesn't like
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chocolate in regional New South Wales.
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Yeah. Did you finished it to finish it? Yeah, finished it.
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Yeah, I was still talking about that's a nice storey.
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Also the, the, the augmented reality thing. Can you explain what the deal is with that? Oh,
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yeah. Facebook,
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and also Instagram, they've got like on Instagram storeys, you can put filters and little stickers and stuff on your face and overlays and all that sort of stuff. It's all like coming from Snapchat and whatever. But um, they opened up the access to it so developers can go in and you can create your own like faces and backgrounds and stickers and stuff on Instagram storeys. So I was I was having a play around with it before and you can set like backgrounds to like Instagram storeys. So we did one with Zoe. And we were like recording in front of her and
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it's phenomenal. So it's basically the production of buying and green screen, use the camera, yes, editing software crop out in the grain. And now they're doing it automatically, like, this is an amazing step forward, like, companies are going to change the landscape of
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video production. Well imagine products like product placement. Hundred percent do virtually
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hats.
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Yeah, you can
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imagine hats
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that we don't because I saw that being a thing. People are buying virtual products now.
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Yeah, really. Like it's virtual. Spin it up to buy it or anything
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like, just to be like, I want to buy the daily hoodie. So you could buy a real one for 60 bucks Australian? Yeah. Or for $2 50. You can get a virtual one. And then it means that you can like post Instagram photos of you wearing the hoodie.
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Yes. One day Yeah.
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Well, I don't buy it yet. But well, I know. We can enable it for anyone who's viewing our account. They can go to a little section on our account and try try the filters that will
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really that's Yeah, for the fact that we think that these things in damn is probably a lot of it will work right? Yeah. Who's going to pay to 50? There's a bunch of paper. I'm back on the Gary Vee bandwagon by the way. It's been a full circle from not consuming a bit of his content. You know, after years, I literally look he's done. Nearly I think nearly 500 daily blogs, like crazy. I remember like 8090 years what like he's come a long way. Anyway, I've been watching his stuff since we saw him on Monday. And he's changed his tune is different since Monday. Since man since Monday. I've watched
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and any changes changed since to you sir? I'm last when when we when were you on the Gary Vee train.
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I think pretty early around the start when he started daily blogging. I was it I was watching his keynotes. And he was doing a bunch of other content. But yeah, when the when the longest I never even liked really watching the blogs. I watched the blogs in the early days because I wanted to see how that made. And then you saw the perfect aggression. The production was amazing like that, that day rock dude, he's done a great
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job. My favourite thing that he ever did, to be honest, was Ask
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Gary Vee that I watched a lot. That was
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my favourite line. And that's what I guess this show is like without the q amp a bit, just people sitting in front of the camera talking and like him having India or whatever on the side. Yeah.
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Yeah. And so he's, he has evolved, he's, he's less aggressive. He was very aggressive in the alley and sort of yelling at people and, and now he's just like, quite convinced, because a lot of the CDs been talking about is come true. And he's like, what's the word he uses? relevant, uses that a lot now, where he's just stating that if you aren't playing in the space, you are going to be irrelevant as a brand as a person, you know, as a personality online. And yeah, and so there's that approach where I get it, I'm like, Yeah, I kind of know what I need to be doing. And, and,
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and sort of makes more sense. Right? So this is a weird thing. The idea of posting say, you know, chatting to Kylie Eddie. And her and I very similar, I think, especially around like the views on content, we want creating it, but it does take some energy. And so there is that deep work philosophy or like, you know, not pushing all the time. Yeah. But that seems like a very unclear way to build a community, it feels like you need something else. Whereas like the idea of putting out 100 pieces of content a day, you can actually imagine how that could actually connect dots. Yeah, if you're not doing anything, if you're in, stand lay on the not just writing, you know, writing or whatever. You're not reaching anyone at that point or that point?
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Yeah, he would call you a relevant. Yeah. What I do think, though, is what's important for someone like him as much as you might think he's a gronk, or you don't lot you know, don't like if you don't connect with this message. If you're a creator, doing something that has a lot of ambiguity, like a podcast, like some, you know, being in like, an artist in the modern day, he's doing the work. And he's in front of the brands that are going to spend and invest money in people like us. So this keynote, which I'll put in the show notes, I personally want Mr. 97? Will you remember that? It's not I definitely put in the show? No, it is. Yeah, I got it. I'm gonna forget. He's in front of these big audience huge. And their executives, they're important people, they're the ones spending lots and lots of dollars on dumb shit, like TV ads. And he, he's, he's convincing. And I think, you know, he got everyone in the audience. He said, who in the audience only watches, you know, HBO, Netflix, Hulu, you know, like, the streaming service services, Everyone stand up. And it was 95% of the crowd. And so the point is, make and spend money on a three minute video that people want rather than a six second pre roll, and then people don't want, which makes so much sense. And and what he's saying is never made more sense now. And he talked about having built a 20 person team around him. So we get lucky. And I think that's where in the back in the day, I was like this guy spending so much money encouraging people spending so much money on a team around him that's doing this thing that's really hard. And he's encouraging people who have no time to do what he does. And so that was a big fucking doc on him for that. But now he's like, I you know, he had the money to do it. He's tested it, right. So he's, he's put it to practice he's method by doing this and building team around him. And he said, like, I walked into Toys R Us the six years ago, and I told them this stuff. And they didn't do it. And they're done. And it's like, and I see like, he's encouraged this from day one. And now he's just, I think it's hard. If, if I think it would be the same if we somehow made so much money from this, all of our thinking now about what we think will happen, if at all, kind of true validated, you just be like, well, I kind of knew that guys
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out of it also. So he using the business of that. So yeah, it makes all the amount of sense for him to double down on it. Yeah, sure. The question that I have, this is a bit inside baseball, but it is weekend banter. Should we be spending money on the daily talk show to do social media ads? Um,
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I think it's, I think there's a whole bunch of steps. Before we even get to thinking about that. I think it's the optimization of what we do. I think it's the the method, because he's Gary V's method isn't like the one that he encourages creators to do isn't paid at that point. So the payment, when you start paying for it is it is quite far down the track. I mean, he does for a bunch of stuff. But there's so many opportunities that we can hack attention that we can grab, yeah, different areas is what he calls it. He's like, I'm just, I just look for where attention is being shown, you know? So it's like, what platform all that stuff? Right? So yeah, I don't think it is because it's at that point, it becomes the company spending the money on the six second ad that people don't want, because people don't want us in their feed if they don't know us, especially if we're forcing it down their throat. And so there is how do you get it, then it's organic? How do you get organic it's finding in and creating stuff that resonates or has a good chance of it? And who's where is the attention at this moment? Like where where are people? Where's the huddle of people right now? And what are they want? And so then it's about how do we then create that because that's free? Well, the good thing about being a content creators, there is shit loads of stuff you can do for free. It doesn't cost us as creators, money, time, and resources. So
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what I think that's part of I reckon, like two months ago, when we spent our first couple hundred bucks on just doing a basic Insta storey, and I think that that's the discoveries and that that's like that the you start it puts a spotlight on the stuff that you're not doing that you're not paid that you can actually just do first. Yeah,
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I think. And from that keynote, I'm talking about, he talks to that for companies that are spending all the cash on the thing that works. And he's like, you need to take 30% of that money then in the thing that is working, and now be testing all these other things. So that is a version of we've taken money from you know, our business to try that. Yeah. And until you do it, you don't know. You really don't know. I think it's about Yeah,
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having more tests and stuff. Yeah. Being more. Yeah. willing to try. Like I'm excited about this. One, I just, I just I just press play on my music through my Apple Watch. It's quite annoying. I've got to. I said that. I think that there's like the stuff that 97 was talking about. I think that's,
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I like that you're into it. Maybe mute it
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now it actually said the weird thing is I don't know if anyone else has had this issue with the iPhone lately. It looks like it's has the pause button is if it's playing. Actually pause right now. And so it's not moving and then so you pressed again, and that'll start playing again.
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It's already muted. Anyway, with me lose on Monday.
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Yeah, it's exciting. Some great people are alive. Kylie? Yeah. Loves are we Yeah. And we, we recorded the chat with Emmylou and that comes out Monday, which I'm pumped to me such a legend. She's great. Yes, you're in you're in for a bundle of energy. She's awesome. Yeah.
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But we'll see you tomorrow for Sunday's episode of weekend banter, height, the daily talk show.com his email address if you want to send us an email if you've got any thoughts on how you think we could do the whole organic thing better. What do you want to say as well? Where are we going wrong with this shit? Let us know because we're in it for the long run. So might as well have that conversation. If you enjoyed the show. Feel free to share it on Instagram. Otherwise, we said Mr. Guys,
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can you just take us out with a crunch of all those 47 taken away
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guys