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conversation sometimes worth recording with Josh Johnson and Tommy jacket it's a daily Talk Show Episode 169 it's going on oh it's just sitting in the sun outside actually I mean the cab at the sun is it's Blair hints lovely here in Melbourne we were about to is my is my body

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I didn't know what you're going to call me then

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I'll take my homeboy yeah my bitch yeah

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I'll take them all

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is why I'm you

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know I'm currently in eastern ball and I'm wrapped because where we're staying has probably the best internet I've had on the entire trip I don't

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think anything can talk the internet that all should ginsburg posted about did you say that? I was yeah it was it was low wasn't it was it was like 350 megabyte download?

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Yes

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he is this from the five was that from the five? j yeah yeah baby yeah. Five jam that's great. I mean, the thing is, I was I was talking to a client who is in the internet provider space and he was just saying because my whole thing is I'm like MTN was a waste like the National Broadband Network. Like they fucked it. Because they, you know, they went halfway there. And then at the last bit, they just kept all the the old tech and stuff like, yeah, you know, the copper and things like that. But

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he was I was saying like, wouldn't you just have, you know, if you were to do it in this day and age wouldn't you have just used five j, like really fast wireless and it had everyone on Matt.

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And he was saying that the the cost of wireless and the stuff like bottlenecks and things like that, like it's a big problem. So

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when I clean my my router says it's like there's a five g login and it doesn't work. So I've got no clue what's going on? Well, yeah, so that would be I'm guessing that's like five gigahertz or whatever that would be for

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fast at like newer devices I saw when you're my understanding is when you're on a Wi Fi

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on Wi Fi, the speed of the Wi Fi will only be as fast as the slowest device on the like. So for instance, if you've got an old

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say phone, or maybe not a phone, maybe like a laptop or something like that. Yeah, and it it can only get maybe eight megabits a second as a download on the Wi Fi network. Everything else on the network will then go at that same speed. So five g on a Wi Fi connection just means that you can put like your new IMAX and stuff like that you'll still say full speed

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I mean was this it was he should work it out was this a soft tech tech review show take show from JJ over it was I don't think it's going ahead because I was for in the muscle. I'll tell you just quickly my my first taste of the real fuck up that is the NBA and and that was sitting in my office in Collingwood and looking out the window. It's like a, you know, business hub for anyone listening. Not you Josh. I'm not telling you what our offices like.

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But I mean, you've been gone for a while. So that has made some changes, your desk is no longer that now it's still there. But I'll sitting sitting sort of in the common area and I see these two guys just like with clipboards and in some sort of our hive is looking work attire and they're walking through and just looking up and kind of pointing at things and I decided to get up and go see who they are what they wanted and and I said Hey guys, where you're from, I say oh, we're just we're surviving. We're from the NBA in somebody's mind I said oh we're just looking at where in bn will be installed throughout this area I was like Are you fucking kidding me? I didn't say this to them to people being paid to walk around the area to point at things and write down a few notes to say where they might install the NBA and when they go ahead with it how ridiculous is that

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how far how far off it i mean i think it's ridiculous specifically for you given that

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the you've already gone ahead and got five or anyway in that building yeah well that

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well yeah the dude who in Seattle the spices paid the money to have it put put it on the ground and and come through so it's it's so bizarre where the government will spend money it's a complete righ like some just been, but it's like the solar programs are starting to crack down on those now where I think I saw last week that one of the they're gonna have like a government, not like a grant. But basically they going to ruin all these solace scam businesses out there that were taking advantage of it by offering it directly from them. And I get it. But there has been a lot of lot of funny work going on with solar systems. And, you know, that's half half the, the calls I get from random numbers, you know, skews me so d Do you have Do you have solar, you'll have might I don't even own a house now. You made me feel like a piece of shit for not

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only man, probably true Trevor long whenever I talk about NBA or think about NBA. And I always think of him because he always has pushed back on people bagging out there and bn connection because probably, you know, 50% of the time the problem that people are having with that, and bn isn't specific to the NBA. And it's like an ISP issue. It's like a hardware issue, stuff like that. But I think even all of that shit aside, if I think about when was the NBA like, would have been like 2006 or something that it was sort of like coming into motion. And I was just so excited about the future,

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just like you wouldn't believe how happy I am. When I have a good connection. If I've got a good connection, I can download podcasts and I can download youtube stuff and it's maybe it's a bit sad. It might be his very first world problem that was the most first world probably it's got that vibe Hey, I remember actually on the on the first world problem thing I remember. Um, I don't inside that much anymore because I remember I was working when I was working in a company and I was doing social media and I did this post where I was like an Android vs iPhone or something. And I said, Yeah, at the end it was like hashtag first world problem and then I got this email from a guy who'd been at the company for a long time he's like, you know, like a lot of our customers from like, third world countries so it's just like that's not a good look. It is and I feel feel like ever since then. I've really backed off on the third world, first world problem Banta yeah

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I think it was definitely popular at at one point it's I think that's what she said that

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that's what she said has also um dropped off as it

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was happening so hashtag putting hashtag and then saying something you you give that a red hot crack every now and then that has David uh. Yeah that has definitely fallen off slightly yeah but hey at least yeah at least we're not doing Indian accent on our show like some radio presenters in Melbourne but you know HD there on is that uh. Yeah

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okay that's that's okay

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you've had your it's funny the one of the interesting thing about this podcast is as we go I feel like my willingness to say shit about people as never like I said it last week to buy always I'm just like why did I say I just I could have said that exact thing and being a little bit more vague or shit like that when I love our fun I love you ever do that when you're shipping into Do you ever say something about someone that you then we're like oh golly

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i think you know what is as much as we have very little filter for what we're doing I think this is more dangerous way way applying then doing right here because I think you start you know that it's live there's a there's a process for you before you even get you know broadcast out to the people that you are and so it's it's very filtering like I swore I think I said she wants in two years and it would have been in the context of talking about a dog's face he's like never never like saying it because I just want to go oh shit and so I I got worried I got worried because the dude you know that I think it's Darrell lions he's the

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he's the dude who's got the fake

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Facebook week what's that called yes hi yeah it's hyper rot so dude yeah he

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will he's like he became the mayor of July and he I think he might have been a coin add of being a pepper artsy easily

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be careful with what you say because what I was saying going to say is he's just like I saw in the news maybe a month ago that he was suing suing a presenter on community radio for saying something about him

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nah yeah I probably made fun of his hair I actually quite like it so if he served me it'd be this weird thing of a guy that you actually you know get around this

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is this is the this is Yeah. You trying to dig your way out of it. And possible legal

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legal issues right. We should try and get him on the show. Just we go to every link for him not to sue us. We have him featured he's got his own segment every Thursday on our show. gets to say, well, maybe Darren maybe it could be Darryn Lyons, Lion facts. Where he we basically give him a Wikipedia page on lions. The animal Oh yeah. And he has to sort of, maybe tell us one interesting fact about a lion every episode. Hey, I need you to tell me about what it was like. In capital to where you were in hot air balloons in that unbelievable looks like the dangerous it looks like extreme hot air ballooning because you're around 40,000 other hot air balloons What was your How was it What was the experience like

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I was amazing it was like we went up at the beginning we will pretty low and we're thinking what like is this I was always thinking it was like this doesn't seem very high but by the end of it we were 1000 meters up or a kilometer up in the air

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it's yeah it's amazing I was like right knee the middle and so the flying was really close which I like to catch me warm and the holding holding on the drive his leg because you escaped

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I was like I feel like the concern with that like you don't think about when you're up in the air how like it wasn't until I was he said we're at 1000 meters I looked at him like wow this would be wouldn't be that hard to fall out

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that

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I don't know it feels like whenever going to like being in Turkey and doing that experience everything anything that's a little bit more dangerous I feel like I'm like I wonder what they do in Australia because some of the shit that they were doing I was like I'm sure that this protocol doesn't wouldn't fly in regards to like occupational health and safety in Australia but yeah it was it was awesome Do you know my on the interaction with hot air ballooning was the time that I was driving to work on pan road

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and I'm he said that hundred billion looks really really low. And for anyone that doesn't know pant road is like the busiest one of the busiest roads. The within peak hour in Melbourne. They replaced the pay with a see because that's how annoying it is.

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So you will fall anyway. She's like, look at that. And then I was like, now I can. It's just about to go up. And then we drive a few more, you know, couple hundred millimeters and then I see it coming down. So I'm like, Oh, I gotta pull in just to capture this mega blog about it. And so we pulled here I ended up helping this guy. I wouldn't say crash land. But it's it's definitely not a purposeful landing. Where he was meant to it was this he literally widget he landed on this wedge of grass. And I think he was trying to get her off the road. My guess is that they would get fined. a shitload if they land on roads and cause like, you know, cause chaos. Probably it probably like create a whole like a case that they have to go through and report on. Yes, it like that. And so they leave this guy literally landed this hot air balloon in this tiny little bit of grass. And I was helping because they threw this rope out and I was helping this other guy from the hot air balloon company. Just pull and hold on to this thing. We had our full white just so was another guy that there from the company. They already found them. So what happens in Melbourne, they set them up in a park or whatever. And they and then the guy with the van drives because I can't just go well I'm taking off in this park. And I'm going to land in that park. It's like yeah, they could win drifts and so that yeah so there's someone sort of like tracking them and so this was that guy in the van who jumped down he's like my give us a hand

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I was right amongst it where

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where did they start off from so they ended up in pant pant right not far from the city. Yeah you

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know where they started from? No I don't know where they started from but I know that that we're trying to land in Albert Park in the Albert Pike district in the like not in the life but in the in that area. Yeah, another

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one landed who's trying to get a story starting to get a story like the the Hudson River here. I do Sally have the same effect.

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Sally. Another one lady in the Port Phillip back just off the just off the beach. So he might my thing reason I'm saying this. They're not actually that safe. But they seem to have success in not doing this every single day land. And then I wonder if there was any. Did you hear any whispers Emily? anyone talking about? You know, stories? bad stuff? They've gone bad.

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Well, the the guy it's funny. When once we landed. He was the captain know what if you want to call him? He called himself? He was. Yes. He was joking. That like he's like, you know, y'all didn't die. Like just like, I think another thing that probably maybe it would happen in Australia. I did not. But yeah, he was he was having a good laugh for the fact that we didn't die. But we ended up 15 kilometers from where we took off and will far away from any other of the balloons. like he'd he'd said that we'd gone really far. Yeah. So yeah, it was it was interesting. But the thing that the one thing about the whole experience like the whole to was, it was like, obviously, a Turkish company. And they just saw loose with things like timing with stuff like communication. It's just like the example we were.

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We were told that the the bus was got like, we're going to be picked up at

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10 to five for 50 to get to the hot air balloons. No one came until it was like five past five. And we get onto the the mini buses only, like in another couple coming on as well. Who have from Turkey. Yeah. And I said my name. And I could tell that it wasn't really like connecting. Like, he didn't, I said, Joshua. He was like, like, just sort of fucking like said something. And then so we like, just got on. And then we got to the side. And we still don't know. But I don't think we were on the right on the right below. I think what like because we got there. And

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he came up to us. And I showed him like, our itinerary. It was doing some talking. So thing and then they take us all to the hot air balloon that will going on and everyone had their name, they sign next to it. And we didn't have our night shades. And so there was that like, the funny thing is, with all these experiences is the same stuff. It seems to be wrapped up in initial panic, which is just like you trying to fill in all these gaps of like a wheel. I will. Are we going to be able to get one? Is this gonna be all of that sort of thing?

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Well, that's Yeah. Hello. Lucy. Got it. It would have been good. I free because it was expensive. It wasn't. That's what it made me think about that had different you feel when you go to grace. You're going to grace country? Yeah, yeah. Oh, they're the cheapest. You know, don't worry, this guy that we that picked us up from the airport, when most when we went there for our honeymoon. I said to him, right, they've, they've lost our bag, or it didn't, it didn't come it wasn't on the connecting flight. And I said, I've got to go back tomorrow and pick it up. And he's like, Don't worry, it was just so laid back. They just don't give a shit. And I went back and found my bag just like at this counter that had no one there. And I pressed the bill and waited a few minutes. I literally took my bag that I'm out of here now and kid

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well, the the the the thing that was funny was we ended up when we were on the tour they just randomly said to us, you need to we need to take you to the agent so that you can pay because we'd only paid like you know 10% or whatever deposit but what they hadn't made clear was that they wanted it cash and so it was like how much was it was like 1500 euros which that like included our internal flights included everything right and they wanted 1500, 1500

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euro cash and we haven't been traveling around with a lot of cash because we're gone for such a long period of time so we go to an ATM you know put in the amount and then the

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the ATM dies like it says that it's like working out so thank you hear like the cashed it just shuts off and some like and so I went to him I'm like we went back to the place and said hey, like it's it's not working? Can we do a bank transfer we pay credit card and he was like they obviously doing everything off the books and that's how they sort of keep it a sort of a lower price. Yeah. And so we would they have like 10 minutes trying to work out what to do and I'm like look take a photocopy of my passport we're gonna like center the money and he ended up taking taking me on all of a sudden he's like

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a guy who spoke English said he's going to take you on a quad bike you didn't even say quote by he said he's just gonna go take one of you down the road. Yeah, and to another ATM. And before you know what like I'm on a quad bikes zoom in on and he takes me to an ATM. And surprisingly, I wasn't thinking we're going to be able to do it. But we could take out the cash and took him $15, 1500

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euros. Yeah.

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And the interesting thing was, he wasn't what he did is he thought that maybe the ATM didn't have enough cash like you rose to be able to deliver it. So he'd taken 1500 euros himself in cash that he was depositing into the ATM with the host that it would then give it back to us. But he put in hundreds and it came out and 50s so it didn't really make a difference but the thing was all the power was out so that you should we had without it was the powered gone out. And it had gone out everywhere. So the items will re loading and there was that sort of concern at the beginning where it's like are you going to like I sort of had this thought that the power was going to turn on and the it was going to open up in the cashier is going to be there and someone's just going to take it but it was all good. It didn't didn't come off our card. Have

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you been feeling like you've just like because all you're seeing is money? Yeah, yeah. You're on holiday Is it is it is a thought in my mind were like fact every cent I'm taking out is it's not getting put back in. Because I'm not working at the moment ever. You felt like that.

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Now it's been it's been okay. I think that we budgeted, well. So like because we've been sort of zigging and zagging doing expensive stuff. And then cheaper stuff. It's um, yeah, it's, it's been pretty good. So far. I think that trying to think what sort of probably it stings, paying too much for things in cheaper places. But it's still not that expensive, if that makes sense. So, like, you can, I think that the thing that you need to be careful of when you travel eg can get into the like, the smaller numbers, which I think is not worthwhile. So like, for instance,

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say, for instance, like Coke Zero might normally cost like, $1 or something in the city, like really cheap. And then you go to a place it costs like $2, and you just like a man that's fucking rip off. You get like that. And it's like, in reality, like, let's just or even, like we, you know, got lunch. And it was like 40 lira for for a meal. Which was more than what used to spending but reality was that was like $10 from for a meal. So it's, I think it's a bit of that where it's just like sometimes your perspective, guys, but I'm trying. Yeah,

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he's actually here is an example of where you start counting the money is we were leaving our hotel yesterday to go back to Eastern ball on the plane. Yeah. And the shuttle arrives to pick us up and all of a sudden, I've taken my mind embrace bag down which we've nicknamed praise back the three it is a real fact it is massive. It's why be it's like a jumbo version of mine. And it's just like, it can't go on every

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you can't land everywhere because it's too big. And so yeah, that's that's sort of is actually stopped. like everyone's even when we're traveling with my like, just don't grab the three it like yeah,

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she's worn one of the outfits the whole time. Yeah,

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it's so sure it's hot. You just wear dress, whatever. It's like, you don't need a tight 30 dresses to it does. She got Well, I'm still wearing the same like, actually. Not this T shirt, too. I just chucked it on bit. Yeah, I've been wearing like, True T shirts on this entire trip. Yeah. But the. Yeah. So we, as we were going to leave, I was already in the van. I'm like, What's he doing? And she's like, I've lost my sunglasses.

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So I'm losing my voice again. Hang on.

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So I am. Yeah. So what had happened is, apparently she had

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probably half an hour before we went like that hotel. There's hardly anyone in there. Sort of like a boutique sort of hotel. You're sleeping and like a cave type of thing. They're all trying to get cash at an ATM. Exactly. But the know. So she she'd left them all this what she thinks has happened. She left them in the toilets, like in the main toilets, because there's so what she's been wearing, like a jumpsuit for a jumpsuit. So what's called? Yeah, and so it like it's good, because it sort of covers our legs and stuff like that. So you know, being in a Muslim country what says she's trying to be as respectful as possible. So anyway, but to take it off, she has to like under basically take all our clothes off to be able to go so she'd take this honeys off and had put them on a bench anyway, they were they were taken. So like her right. It's a first pair of like, where she's actually put some money into sunglasses. But how would you react if Amy had lost a pair of Sonny's What do you think? So I'm on the bus break. Like is in a real sort of stage. So like huffing and puffing, like, Oh, yeah, you know where, like, I'm trying to work it out. So I'm just sitting there. And then what? What do you think your first words would be in that situation?

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If I mean it lost her or like looking for hers?

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My my problem is, I get frustrated. I feel like it's something you tell you something. Yeah. Yeah, I take it all and I think that I feel the annoyance of it. Oh, am I like how much that I start thinking about how much they're worth and the early 70s Yeah, that's that's bad. That's

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what I do. Well, so my reaction which Bray was not happy with that home was

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what's the lesson

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then one thing you don't need to hear when you're feeling the pain of losing something is this is a lesson but I

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think it's all learning it's a learning that's like that's it's a learning but Bray said in a really smart way I just a great Do you think the only smug it's a learning but it's a learning like I thought that that was I said to her after it like she really cracked with me I might hang out like the thing is the How have I become the bad guy like you The thing is she's like you could have a bit more sympathy I'm like the thing is that I'm going to be paying 50% like you're gonna like this is annoying for both of us because like we're gonna have to get new glasses but I wasn't like I was like that's going to cost us money oh that's the thing I'm like I want it I feel like I sometimes just want to be I don't want to take away the learning by saying oh it's okay we'll just buy a new pair I wouldn't like you got to feel it you need to like sit in the in that sort of state so that you never ever leave your sunglasses in a dump spot again

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my I lost I bought a pair of sunglasses on the Friday for the races on the Saturday and got really pissed and lost them they'll $350 yeah

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well this is a good thing is like I thought I'd sort of been thinking my head all they come back 500 bucks or whatever but right man it's actually on as expensive as you think they'll like 160 bucks

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well when in 20 in an si si 25 days in 25 shows time will be together in the states and Ray Bans a seriously shape over in America so she might as well just hold out by a pair of by fake pay and then by if you can hold out because the thing is she's got like her eyes are quite sensitive or whatever. Like she's got like a little dots that we need to be careful with the sun scoped it sensitive. Yes.

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So she can't like just go and we can't just go to a market and get el cheapo ones that are going to fucker is we're going to get ones that are at least protective, right? They're

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not magnifying glasses. Well, I

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think like the cheap ones. That's what the issue is. Now it's like that. They're not like they don't provide actually any protection.

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Some of them it depends on if you're getting like the rainbow colored Ray Bans that five euros all across Europe? Probably not. But I think you can get some Yeah, get I mean, just get a cheap pair. Seriously. I've been thinking about

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buying clothes recently. Just like you Jane's new hats and stuff. I'm I'm just gonna wait till America because it is so much cheaper there. Yeah. Yeah.

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I wonder how I feel like it's changes with the site. Sometimes it's a lot cheaper. And then like, I guess it all depends on the

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exchange rate and stuff like that. Yeah, when I was there, it was dollar for dollar. That was so good. I mean, yeah, that was this unique time. What do you so so you can answer that is at 25 days and tour in the state like 25 shows. So today,

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right. Today's 20 number 25. Tomorrow, 24. I'm counting down. Maybe you're not. You're on holidays. But I'm definitely counting down the days. And if you haven't been listening. This is the first episode. Josh is traveling for 100 days. And I'm meeting him in America. And we're going to continue the podcast we have while you've been gone. We haven't missed a show. And then we're rendezvous in in NYC.

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So I got some feedback from Ron board who's actually been on the podcast. He's the founder of quad locked, he was saying it's like, Why do you keep bringing up the fact that you like to podcasting?

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He's like, he's spot on. I think like, it's 100% like an insecurity where I'm like, there's a desire to be like

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to explain yourself because I feel like I've been what I'd been consuming podcasts for so long I just feel like I don't know what's your what's your vibe on it? I feel like I do it why more than you Yeah, Yeah, I do. Definitely he's feed off it

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but it's even since the time and we're very on the alert for what's happening around in this space. But even since we started this six months seven months ago you've seen so many pop up so many people that I just wouldn't everything would have won for no other reason then it's not what they do normally and then all of a sudden they've got a podcast like the landscape or or something like

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that I'm industry since it's actually one of my favorite now the landscaping podcast talking about different turf different degrees. But well, I hadn't I hadn't ID I don't know. I hopefully I don't think we'll have anyone that will will take it before we we do it in New York. But I was thinking of contacting one of the helicopter tour companies and trying to organize a deal where we do a podcast from a helicopter above New York and one of the like a pilot or someone from the company as a guest on the show. Yeah, that'd be awesome.

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Well, as we were talking before, different countries have different regulations. We one of our listeners is a train driver and he isn't allowed to because I was thinking we should just go for a ride in the train and do a podcast with him while he can't even listen to Danny can even listen to podcasts yet. Yeah. While he's Yeah, so I wonder what

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the deal is with with pilots. I mean, I want him to focus I don't wanna come down into the world of the Empire State Building. But think about it like this. Like if they they talk on there I was thinking if we could use their existing headsets and we could tap into that they're already there already talked so yeah, maybe it does have to be someone from the company but the reason that I bring it up is because I was doing some research and then I found a show specifically for helicopter pilots see your podcast by helicopter pilots, the guys based in Queensland who who does the show should try and find out the name I think was like the rotary show

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I feel like I could get behind that get other sort of a niche podcast to sort of start to learn a subculture I'm like

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man there is a series hates it subculture podcasts I was thinking if anyone has any context in America specifically New York City and Li Josh and I will be there from light September 29 to the 11th of October so if you are if you do have someone that we should get on the show let us know yeah absolutely if you just say having to be a helicopter pilot from New York listening I mean perfect

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should we got we got a few ensure

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any other exciting news what else is what else is happening? Catch me up on your your life may jammed on the weekend. It's it's

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my last week of my of my 20s. So I'm out. I'm feeling a bit older. I've always been the young younger person in the group. And I feel like 30s not old at all. But I feel like leaving my 20s is quite significant for myself. And, and the growth factor. And now actually, I already feel that do you feel like what's the what's the pressures of turning 30 do you think oh, no pressures but i think it's it's just a new ballgame have been within the 20s for years. And he kind of it I think, you you go through your teens and he trying to get at he attains and then you get to a time where you kind of just like within the 20s and yet and you you know, you just young it's quite it's still quite young. And maybe you're not taken really seriously. And then you start leaving and then I feel like now I'm leaving my 20s and maybe people will start talking. Maybe it will seriously. Yeah,

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I think I think it's true, though. I I didn't realize how much that was a factor when I was younger. In regards to the insights that I had based on the experiences I had with technology. And even internally within companies. I was just always perplexed with like, oh, why we're doing it this way? Like, do they know about these so that and like, I think there's probably, you know, there's probably 30% of that which was just being young and thinking, you know, everything anyway, which isn't. I think probably people are pushing up against that. But, um, I definitely think that if I had the knowledge around sort of tech and a lot sort of stuff we have been company, I think it would have been, like,

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a completely different experience. Yeah, working with it. I feel like you like my, you know, I've been had I put it, I put it I feel like I am now and getting more of a grasp on life. And I mean, a big at a place now, but I just wish I had some, you know, it's always the wish I had it when I was younger. But yeah, I yeah. I've just been reflecting on my life. Like, I think about all the time I wasted fucking going to pubs. And, you know, as much as I had heaps of fun made lots of contacts, and you know, it all of that. But I feel like, yeah,

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there was a lot of time wasted. But I but I don't think I was mentioned I look back. Yeah, I think it's that whole thing works. Like, there's a there's a point in saying, like, even accepting that and then using it as fuel for the future. Yeah, rather than it being I mean, one of the things that I heard, I can't remember what it was from, but it was like, it's that 1% every, every day, I saw some sort of equation around like, doing something versus not doing something. Yeah. And that's definitely been my approach, which is like, Okay, what is like the small thing that I can actually do today? Yeah, even though it seems insignificant, but it's actually going to move me closer. Because I think that so often, I know, I do this, where it's like I say something is such a small action that I don't say there's significant enough to bother. Whereas if I'd done it, it would have brought me a tiny bit closer to where I wanted to go. Yeah.

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All right. There's this guy that I follow on Instagram is quite outrageous. And he's usually yelling advice at PayPal. But he's been doing those q amp, a, you know, Insta stories. And one of them was like, something about Did you travel in your 20s. And this is like, now talking about building a business and spending time to just not fucking around in your early 20s to set yourself up. But I've lived I've done a lot in my life already, where it's like, yeah, you could easily see it as a waste. But then I, when I see someone else talking about how they haven't, they haven't spent any time partying. They haven't done any travel, because they've been building the future. I also think fact you've missed out bro. And so that's where I look at what I've done. And, and in my life. And yeah, I think there's plenty of times. Yeah,

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there is time don't want to. You don't want to just be you don't want your whole life to be career you don't want I don't think you don't want your life to be any single thing. Because once that single thing goes, Yeah, or comes into question, then you lose your identity. So I think that that's like, interesting, which is like, I think that for a lot of my life, I've my work or whatever, or what I do has been a bit of my identity. I think the other thing that happens when you travel is you realize how insignificant Can you are. And in some regards, like how you think about, like, think about when you doing like an Instagram post or something like that. You think that you're connecting with a bunch of people, when in reality, it's like, I've got like, say, 1400 or 1500, or whatever it is, follow us on Instagram, let's say half of them actually, like see my content, interactive users. It's like the size of my old school. So it's like, I've essentially got like the broadcast this connection that I have is like, I think the perception in our minds is that we're like, man, we're connected to so many people. But in reality, it's like a dash. It's tiny. And I think that that's, um, it's sort of a humbling thought to then realize I stopped taking shit too seriously. And shit doesn't matter as much. Yeah,

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I think it's easy to look around and see people, especially when you're young, who are having success and think like, fuck was that not happening for me, but it's like, it could take you 20 years to get there. I wonder if people I wonder if, I mean, if we all knew when it would happen for us, or, you know, whatever we're sort of striving for, like, how would people be more patient I don't know if they don't think people are just impatient with these things with live and, and yeah, because it's, it's a long it's like, life is a long game, you sticking it things and it might not work or at night, and there's always a desire to want more,

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I think, I think if you can get rid of that, because I think that

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I remember hearing somewhere, it's like, you need to know how to be happy now in the situation you're in, so that when the situation might get better, or if you think it needs to get better than when it is you know how to be in that place. Whereas people are expecting a thing to happen, like, you know, financial success or something to happen to them, make them happy. Whereas, you know, it's it is something I think that I constantly perspective wise, definitely traveling, you have all these micro moments over that where it's like, like,

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you got to snap out of it. Where he like, a no way that you had like the cost of a drink, or like them being light at a two hour or feeling like you're being hustled, like, the one thing about the two were, there was a few times where it's like, you go to a this is the most sort of controlled to a group we've been in because we've sort of been doing everything ourselves. This is one that was sort of a bit sort of all inclusive. And it's like the guy the guy said to us who was out guide, he's like, Ah, now you so talking as if like, we're doing something like oh, real, bespoke stuff is like, I want to take you off sort of the different spots, you know, where it's not as busy, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, he said, Now, we'll do lunch a little bit later, we'll do lunch about 230, because I want to go to one of my favorite places, and I just want to make sure that we can get in and also thing anyway, it was sort of pitched as it was as if they sort of like local experience. So that was his sort of favorite thing. And we like arrive and there's about 20 buses

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like

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okay, this is interesting it going this is like huge tables with just like tourists on every single table. And I think like in those moments, you can be like, what the fuck this is like, this isn't the experience that I was like, I would much prefer to be like brain I talk about the fact is like, we don't mind if something is touristy, but it can't be shit food as well. Like, the thing that I find is, it's like, you pay more the touristy stuff. And that's also shift stuff, like, you know, like, delicious local stuff that isn't done with love. So I think, but it's that perspective, right? It's been like, same time. We're, in fact, in this amazing part of the world having this experience. Yeah, I,

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I felt like that in in Spain. In Barcelona. You can get this cable car from like the beach over to this mountain. And then you just paying through the nose, having fried salty food, but I just loved it. I just lapped it up. I just drank the beer and the salt

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in better and then but Yeah, it is. It's it's this group specifically. It's like whenever you're in a group. And this feels like you sort of being carted around or having carpet sold to you. Or jewelry.

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It's it's all the experience you've bought all of them for our office when you get home. Exactly. Yeah,

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it's gonna be beautiful. A lot of Yeah, we'll have a glass with that Turkish Delight so you can help yourself way

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Oh yeah, I feel like

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it takes a lot. Finally, just before we go I am I'm on the 16th that I just got notification that says you hit your goal of 16 hours have

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a guess what it's about 16

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or something of audio book. Now

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I'll show it to you say if you can. You can say I can't say

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I've lost connection with you. You can last he can't say that happens every time I wonder why

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it's it says fast complete. So I've got an app called zero which is by Guy Kevin Rose who founded dig who had the podcasting nation back in the day and you just start it and basically this is the rock Hugh Jackman This is the first thing that they do so it's fasting fasting now it's yeah amazing. So

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you must be pretty fucking hungry

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Yeah, now I'm okay ba just because you know that I like to fast and also thing but I have felt like it hasn't been controlled it's been just sort of a little bit random whereas now it's like I put it on it stopped eating at 4:45pm and now it's you know 8:45am and I can I

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track it's good that we're now what do you do I do everything and then fast again

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now so like I think that once you start fasting you stop being like do I really want to have like all the sweet food and stuff at the breakfast store should I be a little bit more sensible so yeah, I'll probably I'll just sort of eat normally or whatever and then finish it again at like 4pm and then do it all again it really and then track maybe you can give it a crack maybe give it a go and not even really need to do it could be

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like I go I created a timer that is basically an app that it's basically just a time I just send a lovely that's all it is but it's so it is really nice and just being able to track it there if

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the rock uses it I'm going to fucking news that shit well to be clear the rock doesn't use that he just it's just he probably in some fucking I had a call they said that he does 16 hour fast so um. You're basically doing the one that the rock does so I'm guessing I'm going to be completely jacked and shit without doing anything else just no dating for 16 hours a day

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alright guys we're gonna see you tomorrow because that's

46:21
yeah everyone and yeah feel free to email us hi the daily talk show calm and yeah, I'm very excited for the next couple of months I think it's gonna be be very exciting. Say tomorrow

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guys. Bye.