#111 – Breaking rules in the steam room/

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conversation sometimes worth recording with Josh Johnson and Tommy jacket, Episode 111 of the daily talk show and living as we go. Yeah, that's the stick of this show. If you've just tuned in for the first time, I love when you spend so much time with people, the transformation of someone's language to be more like each other. So am I becoming like you? You You're saying you just said shake which I say it a lot even when it's not shtick. Think someone said today are you we had Sam Mac that's he's episode is coming out on the 29th of June if you went away I'm just gonna reset every few episodes just to explain what's going on however I'm going why today's what Tuesday 19th of June 19 of June and we do this show every single weekday and when I'm away will be only doing four episodes awake however you'll be getting five episodes because we're currently recording a bunch of chats conversations with people yeah and the starting I mean we were just starting doing that and this we're having some crackers will have so many if you've got suggestions of people that we should have on high at the daily talk show calm but we're doing half a dozen interviews just like on Friday

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we are yeah I mean it's been a bit of time in the steam room again yeah yeah

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what does that do to skin then I mean if I had if I probably had bad pimples I could do as a kid would have made them worse agitate them but other than that it's making me feel like an awesome optimize human being is still bumping into the guy who shaves

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yeah one of the other episodes I guy was fully shaving his bead which you I'm not meant to do you know in the steam room and then washing it down and we had we had great banter but no banter. And I haven't seen steam man yet. So that was a reset to close the loop of what I was just saying. Sam Mac us on June 29. And I remember saying stick in that episode three closing that loop as well. So yes,

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so on a steam room. Yeah, but what's the vibe so

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I've been singing in the yesterday I'm always I've been thinking about how I've always I'm always looking for my opportunity to break the rules okay and I know it's just this ingrained patent that have that have formed to spit of the

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it sounded you describing what would most come may be referred to as a

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alright in small senses even things like being in the sauna or the steam room trying to work out how to make the thing hotter so it's got its settings rather and it's and it's sit for safety and you're not technically advanced enough to do this you tried to do this at the we was strictly told by the people who will who own the house or house sitting the other week yeah, don't touch the hater. I didn't catch that you know what is the boys at first I want to have a look at it Are we were about to hit the button. Well,

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because I thought that that houses show fucking cold and I was like bullshit June. So I'm always I'm almost a bit skeptical and everything in anything. So for instance, the steam room if you use them, I mean, a lot of people are doing this, like, for instance, the one at the gym in Richmond, we get that there's a shower in there. It's got a head that you can take off. So we use the shower to spray across the those are the ones we mean the other pandas and the bloke that was in there having good chinwag with me. Yeah.

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Again, another person in there. Yeah,

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and so you spray across to the thermostat, which then heats it up. So because it thinks it's cooler because it's getting heated. Yeah. And then I actually saw a guy is a genius in St. Kilda. I walked in as I Oh, what are you doing and he had a wit tissue and was clogging up the thermostat is a key if you just put a wit tissue in there, it catches on fire

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it just cape steaming. But I thought about this across my life. And you know, I'm always looking for a shortcut or how I can sort of do the opposite of what I'm being told to do. And I was thinking that maybe

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and it is a level of consciousness to having a mindset like that because I'm always thinking about it. Rather than just maybe not fucking enjoying what I've got in the present moment. Do you think there's like diminishing returns to always looking for corners to cut it? Well, I think that I saw this exact thing this morning. We would I do Yeah.

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Like I didn't know you didn't do a bit of something that you would do. We were stuck in traffic which is a whole nother story. But we we were waiting in the line that we had to be in and there were all these decades going on the emergency line to like the bus line and we're driving on the bus and taxi line

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so I was about to say you can't do that but I was like that's rich from the black who tries to cut every cut every with Jonathan you would do it on I mean I've done it I think there's a level of right and wrong that comes in based on what you got my beliefs or you know I pushed the right and wrong boundary versus what is legally right and wrong. It's more what what do I feel is right and wrong enough so I mean even in James might from the office here

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right now. My best mate

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well I've known him long as an email we went to primary school together right good one but it's not all about the time it's about the quality I think I reckon there's something in so they say that there's a certain type of person will flush the button of the flush the toilet before they've stopped PC and it and it and it who you who is saying that what buzzing right. I can't even remember. But it was the right it's the same type of person that does it like there's a consistency and I asked my friend James right. Do you do this? It's like a personality type. Yeah, you feed into the four tendencies flushing the toilet Do you do

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yeah but

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the florist inside Russia I'm always looking to go okay if we're walking up to the corner and then you need to turn right but if there's a car park on the corner I'll cut through the carpet whereas I tend to think that you are would walk up to the end and turn right or I'm looking for alleyways to go down to cut through to get somewhere but and I think it's a

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Am I being over analytical on myself I this or do you think about not cutting corners I think about

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I think that there's probably different versions depending on what game you're playing I think I am a cat a path cutter when it comes to high thinking long term strategic yeah and follow the path on day to day type stuff so I will not I don't j walk that much yeah Have you been fine but for now I never been fine nearly got ran over though

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so that's really sort of though the one time I'm like you know what maybe I'm a jaywalking kind of guy nearly got hit by a don't you and road they're a bit awkward you get a bit funny the one thing is where it starts to become a bit of a test so I'm falling into your your sort of round but I'm half asking it because I'm pressing the button like so early in the morning I've been you know getting up at 5am each morning and there's no one on the roads when I'm crossing the road and so I'm my from a compliance point of view I'll press the button and then I just get over waiting and end up Jay walking away and more annoying because of press the button so they're gonna have to stop

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what we did when I was working with kiss FM It was a whole segment around and we had someone on from the road whatever it is the road people that look after the traffic lights without microphones or would it be someone else it's a department in it but they were saying that you actually in the mornings there so there's certain times where you have really no say about when the light goes red or green yeah

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well they within the same a day I think it is between like normal hours yes just automatically will it's always set that as if there's a pedestrian exactly and so

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it just changes as it will not as you remember when you roll up to an intersection you start like rolling back and forth trying to get their light to go green ever done that

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know where the actual sensors that are they on the ground. It's precious as white from the car never done in my life. Even ever known about that. Well, no, I just I know that ambulances can make make lives changed by doing so I told you and that

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asshole I was waiting at a set of light for 10 minutes. And I was fired out because it was the morning and this hassle. Also, why isn't this like going and then the duty in front of me got out of his car walked up to the car in front of him which was the one at the front of the lights knocked on the window to move forward he rolls over the sensor he goes great and we'd been there physically die annoyed the one behind the other guy cuz he doesn't know he was really nice. I did a full day brave or what I thought was he turned into the hospital I think he was a nurse so he seemed like a lovely guy and he handled it he handled it really well. Like the way he knocked please please go forward. So it

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wasn't like some aggressive do it like you the face you did I just please go for this to

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go forward. Please go forward.

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Really? Is that non aggressive? I met if you go for it if I did I behind if you just move forward the lights will go on night. We know how you spoke to the bloke from bindings. warehouse I just heard him to change his time. Maybe he was

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okay so then one of the other ways I do this and then we can move on is dishwasher might not things that can go in the dishwasher. Hey, you get like cups knives. You don't mean to put them in the dishwasher? Yeah, I fucking put them in the dishwasher. I put the knives at least there's like oh go she will go bland. If you put them in the dishwasher. What Why do we have a dishwasher? Yeah,

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I mean, it does bring up the question. I wonder how what level of annoyance I'm giving you at the moment with being in the office what is the what are you picking out I feel like you know we're about to go into a partnership and more and more official weekend I guess so I feel I feel like there's there's a learning and it's there's probably a willingness for you to be flexible around some of my quirks well yeah noticing

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I think I've become a bit more

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lenient not not the breaking the rules but like as a father definitely you know like you got shit everywhere yeah at the back I get it you movie you know you like these things I get so I don't even go there aren't even entertain the feeling but I could imagine that would have been a bit annoying but no, I'm surprisingly not. That's good. Because I

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feel like I've gotten more conscientious I remember I

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stayed at some Airbnb is when I was in San Francisco on the first trip I ever went overseas on my own back in 2012. This was actually the one that I went with Rob Ward from quiet luck. But that those guys it was sort of a unplanned sort of hanging out session but I had my own place and I was sharing it was one of those ones where you have a host Yeah, and

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you're in someone's house. Yeah,

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I'm gonna strangers half I I cringe when I was like, I would get back from the conference and you're like the gear that I have? Yes, in my bags. Oh, just open it up in the lounge. I had it spread

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and you look you're looking back on this and thinking that oh my god. But what we think in the time

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No, I did. Yeah. I don't think I had that level of self awareness. But at the same time, because one person didn't leave a review and I think that may have at our like, if if your host and you have to ask it all you know that like you've probably gone too far with it. Did you feel like you were because anytime I've done the house sharing with Amy I'm tiptoeing around I feel like I'm oh you know, do you mind if I get a drink? Yeah well I definitely feel like brain is staying in Bay with a guy who's like a solicitor in London with we're staying with him and I think I'm going to be so where are we now have and it's only since living with pray and saying and being like You know what, I just want to be really contained I want everything just it's just goes in my bag out of my bag I'm not leaving my toilet trees in the bathroom g lever if you're staying at an Airbnb and there's a host would you leave your toiletries

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in a bag not in a lacking a little bit to the bathroom? It's a small bathroom in London. Most places are Tani yeah

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but now probably in your room just leave it in your own have a whole set up in your own week and take your toiletries bag if anyone has any tips on managing this on like because I'm traveling for you know a few months with Bray if there's any specific tips around how I can travel and not be an absolute peak hi at the daily talk show.com p to other people yeah well no I just I the annoying thing is that the things that I do like noise the fact that have made to that I had to it what do you do which or just just the bits around like leaving

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left that thing because I just in the moment I'm not thinking about it and I'm trying to get better at it so nice on one of my best mates human I traveled for three months around the world and he was teaching me around this invisible box method where he said okay clearly got to a point where I just have my she'd ever because I've got all the camera gear not just spread it and the thing is every time we were only staying at hotels for two days at a time for about 100 days right it was like over 90 days and

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yeah he was just like what you need to do is your wallet your keys your mobile phone needs to be just just make a square and me I suppose what you don't need to put like mass take down or anything because that's my first question Am I have you got something I can make a square he's like no it's just an invisible square and just put stuff in your community outreach program

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it see i don't think i don't know i was thinking about a friend of mine who had a 16 year old kid staying at his house it was his godson was leaving sheet everywhere and he said to me you know he's fucking the beds on untidy is crap everywhere leaves the ball around like who I mean it's up to a parent to try and educate but I don't think Lynn your mom and dad yeah we're neglectful of teaching you things I think you

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did a lot for me which then fact me a bit we've got to get her on before I go why I asked her about that yeah specifically about it No but I see it like she's a even a couple of times in our data you got any Coke Zero is this is just like well you but yeah last night to do just in the garage and on my car where's the key with the idea and these are waiting it I got it

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thanks so maybe there is the the patterns of being a youngster

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yeah yeah

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pretty clean Do you think I mean what I say or what my watch this well I'm he's actually taught taught me to be a lot more clean. Because I'm a bit like you I've seen where you leave your clothes. Yeah, and I'm sure braise. But the great thing

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is now I don't because I've gone or minimal and sort of uniform like It can't be that but like I used to have a chair that was you now bedroom and I would just every time I would wear something I'd put it there and it wasn't malicious. My thought was it's not

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it's not dirty. So it shouldn't go in the wash. And I'm gonna wear it potentially tomorrow so I don't want to hang it up. Everyone has

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these Amy I almost want to eliminate places that could have things put on it because Amy will put stuff on it and she's Amy's potentially the pig not at all she's cleaning we so but it's clean clothes I'm saying I'm more likely to dump dirty clothes on the ground every way and she puts clean things which which I think the same mindset as you yeah which is its claim I need to put it away or I'm gonna wear it so I'll just put it down yeah and things build up but I mean that's a quirk of living with somebody I don't think I think there's a way of having a tidy place like I think places you know when you say house and it's got summit sheet in it so much likely so much more likely that there'll be a buildup of shit because they should everywhere in the first place. Well

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yeah, it's that whole thing of you know, the more if you have a lot of items and you got to manage those things and so that's that's been the learning the best thing about us moving out of our apartment and going the storage and spending the you know the wake up my parents is it's like every single move there's this level of friction like you don't realize how much shit You have until you try and put it in the 30 in like this tiny fucking car it's just like well you know we've just got a couple of little boxes that are remaining I will just we couldn't do it in one I 30 trip with brain is we had the whole back the whole boot

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well I'll be interesting you say when you move into the office where we are now full time yeah

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I think it's like literally just having good stories places there's no reason it shouldn't be fucking tidy well i think that it's also hard when you're in a industry like we are which is we have equipment we have gear and then the other thing too is there's a there's almost that minimalist mindset where it's like I don't want to be carrying a lot of stuff so you end up buying have even spoken to you today about this my car I'm thinking like the record is going to be too much to carry around maybe I get something smaller I can plug into my laptop and then it's another thing it's just like and so every single time I've

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done a podcast or started a new project I ended up you know I'm yeah I'm cautious about things because light yesterday I got offered some really nice paper from next door from the art studio next door a nice what what sort of paper

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look like paper mash it but you can write on it was like legit nice paper or crazy is amazing we can get if we want but I said I don't want I said why not? I said because I need to put it somewhere yeah and that's the problem is just

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everywhere

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I coughing my you sick at the moment I've got a bit of a of a little cough cough cough bodies' get a little cough Yeah, I feel like I'm at that position at the moment where it's like, I feel like I'm gonna get sick. But it's got I've got this week out. I reckon the day that I leave I probably probably get sick.

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Well that's an interesting thing. Because there has been so many times in my life where I've kept together until the moment I've been able to relax and let go. And then that moment it's like everything hits you. It's like you you putting a shield on to get through something. Yeah. And then I like for instance show many of my times when I've had would have been employed. So I haven't been my own boss working in radio or working at the right at the radio stations in digital content. I would get sick on Friday and recover by Sunday night at work. But I felt it coming on during the week. But I never got actual sick. You're sick easy on a guy did you ever taken I think one thing when you have your own business. You appreciate people who don't take see. Yeah,

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well I don't. It's taking the piss. Yeah, I haven't really taken many. So he's I've The interesting thing with my previous job and in Bartow is all about flexible work but what would happen is you would end up working from home when you're sick yeah so you didn't really have a sick day which was mind pulling a sneaky as in you you just lying or pulling a sneaky because you legit see I've never done I've like I've never done it i'm sure when I definitely when I was in school there are moments where it was me nowadays you'd call it like a mental health day but it's like you just mentally say you see like you just like all

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knowledge mental health back then

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apparently as I was mom was saying that she was I said to him I mean never say anything positive about the podcast homies Mom always messages him he's haven't said anything just like I know because I know you're going to be mean about me on the show not true I don't even have a voice for

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yeah but she was she was saying she has been listening she does listen good that's that's really not sure she didn't say you started talking about mental health it was a bit much so she turned it off them all in with which I which is why I'm so factor yeah but she's scarred from your mental health Yeah exactly. But now that you have the sick thing I think is a

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yeah when you are working for yourself all of a sudden like I've been on shoots where it's you almost want to hide that you said it becomes the opposite yeah if someone knows that I'm sick get through it they're going to get like especially when you're working with either high profile people or you know business people if they get a sniff that you're sick of the shifts because because Why are you putting me in the direction you're going to burn

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fat and then the fee kicks in oh my god I'm gonna hit see cuz he see yeah some people freak out more than I was my brother my older bro you seek Oh far you know just like settle down bro

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This is a layer is I got my It was my grandpa's like 90 something birthday and it was down in Ballarat says like an hour drive from our house I went out the night before I go to be boozy woke up and I was like mom I'm so sick I can't go she's like you just hang over a night now I'm really sick something wrong with me really seek not your common yeah and so

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I smiled my mom at the moment backing common

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issues probably it's often there are you coming here anyway I'm glad I came because there's a good story out of it I went down in my brother's car to door coupe so I'm in the back with my brothers Miss Oh my brothers in the front my other brothers driving we all got gastro because I had gastro

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classics to chop

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Socky Ambrose as well we you know patient waiting on knows when like within 10 hours after who's so quick so

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I was it in the car I didn't spew I I wasn't like fully out of it by then later on the day I think I must have shared I shared a CD with my bro yeah I must have been trying to be cool back then smoking I was 17 and I remember having a see by the water with him see you by the sharing one so he's sucking on measure he got sick

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it's it's a strong list that we

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passed that's that was the worst

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either fractured foot for six weeks before mom finally took me that's right

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you mentioned recently yeah

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I was actually doing it all lousy adventures parody video and I was running Churchill Park National Park in the southeast and there was a hole and I fell in the hallway and it was like good gear It was a great made the made the video but then I was saw for four weeks and mom was like

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I'm like not hurts Mom It's like you're fine anyway Finally I ended up having to wear one of those moon boots I and every time the thing that I've held on to the most every time that I've I injured myself when I was a kid the way the doctors would always sell it in was how all the footy players were wearing them and I all of us I would be like all this is very This is common a common thing for the footy players like yeah they were the moon Buddha light and sort of I had this level of arrogance is if I was some sort of athletes Larry and I didn't just form

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well yeah I know there's when I was young I used to think like a cast on your arm if

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you ever have a cast on your own yeah I to one full up to my shoulder

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that's when I hit an acorn on my skateboard came off bent Maya and then the other one I bought it I bought it then the other one rollerblades down a slide and came off crack my wrist and I said to my mind it's so so on a garden she was it was a similar it's fine story until I went in there was a green stick fracture which is like a really monitoring stick fracture main that you know and I go and seek factories like just a really small crack on the bone uh huh so hasn't snaps like a crack along the bone and I had to get one for that the worst is when you remember like got ichi underneath it beginning a ruler and then you take it off and kids is gross as they are it smell it was disgusting

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What does it smell like just like I can imagine you know yeah I mean it's just like dry skin he would you like would you get people to sign up signing

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I love that

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did you a few it if you got any tattoos you don't do I've got one of my back did I know about this is it goes across on my back you've seen it yeah maybe I always whenever I think about backs I think jack post who have had on the show has a few Tebow is a huge angel wings like a tramp stamp like on the bottom yeah which is a really interesting if he dies he flies off Yeah exactly. What's your deal Why do you have your life well

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my friend who died who took his own life and will 17 now he was it he had so many tattoos yeah and I was at a time where we would just into tattoos and we loves it and and yes i and i

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mean it's was that process like Was that your first tattoo

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yeah you're only my only teller I'd probably get another one I'm just

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cautious on what what I what I do I need something so symbolic something that means so much you don't all of a sudden want to get my some dumb

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to go with it I think we attach meanings to tell is right when you ask anyone wants to all you know it's like so you just telling yourself a story about it. Yeah,

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but she story is real to know. Exactly

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right. And so I thought

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we'd and because all of a sudden may have an slag if I can tattoo and then you're like, well, this is the story but is there anything I was in a room at the radio station Matt? Maddie actin?

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I think it was who's a radio dude he's up in Brisbane The Breakfast Show there? Yeah. And then Matt Tilly who did the Breakfast Show in Melbourne. And I was in the room and I and now we're talking about oh, I think Matt said to the other matter if you go to any tenors now and then met till he said something. Oh, yeah. Now, all right. You know, they got it, the whole spiel about Yeah, you gotta get out there and do the thing you know, it's cool now to be clean skin or something like that. And then they turned to me, you can really tell those not

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really

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going to hide Yeah, on

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go, you know, telling, talking about people who have tattoos as being these idiots and sounds like you would have had a great comeback. Not that you want to have to pull that out. But it's

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not my place, though. Because I wasn't. I wasn't talent man. He's a mate of mine. And I we get along really? Well. Usually you don't want the friction. And so and so I just ended up not saying anything about it. But I thought about well, you get a I wouldn't mind some words. I don't know,

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buddy. Well, no. But I think the way you end up doing is like, what do you like the look of Yeah, and then then attaching something to that and then working out what that something is. So if you like planes, and they knew how

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did I you or you like words and then you find a word or something. That's a really good time. We got to 1000 episodes of The Daily talk show. Would you get a Saturday we're saying what the daily talk show where? I don't know. Anyway.

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I'm not

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because baby man. What? It's 1000 or what? Like, I've done it in a way that it's so far away that you'll say yes. And then all come to 1000 episodes. It gives us some content. Okay, I'll get something No, that's so Diana something tattoo. That's not that's not an exciting piece. I'll get the daily talk show tattooed in my in my world in how I wanted if we get to 1000 Hey, my Japanese or something. So it looks

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looks a bit of color current could be something in to translate to something

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good? Yeah, crazy. downplay

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the

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I've called it radios dead. You've called it. It's dead dead. Because this morning we were on our way to to the office early early morning. And

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Google Maps said that the area that we were going in was a delight a lot more than normal, right. And so it kept giving us new rounds. And I was listening to the radio traffic and the radio traffic was like real clear on all that sort of thing. And it was half and we had half an hour to make a choice to turn off. We didn't turn off it added 30 minutes to so it was going to take us half an hour. It took us an hour and the final half an hour was getting off on huddle straight there was roadwork, but I put my money on the radio where I was like you know what I think Google Maps I think there must have been roadworks google maps have allocated extra time because of that but it's now finished up and they fucked it

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that's so unlike

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it net because they would there's been times where I feel like that local stuff is more reliant but

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the reality is the the radio stations use a third party media company to bring the news and traffic and bring the traffic in I think this was the problem I was listening to smooth the 91.5 okay we early in the morning that's a sort of stuff and they have a actually have someone an announcer before six so they have someone but I think this is the problem it's not the official traffic it's just him sort of taking calls and giving out like for a restaurant the arches

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on the ground Have you seen some again cool I

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think it's I think it's a little bit of that vibe So anyway, that was I was listening to the radio after that happened and I was like it was it felt like it was my final chance that I was giving it it's like so this so now Google Maps streaming on Spotify podcasting yeah it's all over yeah it's been a good run

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great run yeah

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