- December 20, 2018
The Daily Talk Show — Friday December 20 (Ep 243) – Josh Janssen & Tommy Jackett
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show, would you leave your kid with Santa, the guy that’s trolling package thieves and quitting booze for an entire year.
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conversation, sometimes worth recording with Josh Janssen and Tommy jackets. The Daily Talk Show Episode 243. Christmas. It's in the air. I feel like it is really now here. Because I feel that tomorrow we're done for the. Yeah. And when when you've got that date, everyone, what are you doing tomorrow? You done? Yay. off off into Gen 14. All right, fancy pants. To you. I'm talking about the smell in the air with Christmas. You were real Christmas tree kind of guy. No. I saw the saddest Christmas tree at its at my child's daycare. And what did you say my child's day? can I try? Bodie much child's name yet but he's daycare
to say what can I say? My child? I think to know it's feeling like
my son's daycare
child and I think we're we're beyond that I think can just say believer on that as well. Because we always we talked about this early days where it's like I'm not going to reset who Bry
Bry is Josh girlfriend?
reset your Viking listeners. So maybe people don't know who. Who. Bodie boys. Boy Yeah. And they have to leave. Like a lot of the the sort of ornaments that the hang up high because the kids just rip them apart. So it's like this half dressed. Christmas tree. It's a bit sad. I remember as a kid we used to go get all the shit out of the cupboard. Just got it came out once a year. And and that was just my brother. And then when we knew that we know what happens when I do that sort of thought that was on I found out what? Mom yelled at me. Oh, that's right. You have to go back to I can't remember what the episode title was for that story. ruining kids Christmas. Yeah, it wasn't called that Santa. Maybe had Santa Ana maybe? I sound a bit Bogan, right, I said, but Santa Santa we actually saw bumped into this guy. I don't know why we ended up even having this conversation at the front of our house. It was dude lived in the area. And I'll do Silver Fox. Probably, you know, like, like, 59. Probably 60 George Clooney looking. I mean, that's a compliment. I wouldn't go out to silver fox when you say silver. Yeah, Silver Fox just was a condescending Silver Fox. No Silver Fox, full grimy, full, full. Like it's almost goes white but a fox. The Silver Fox the fox bit implies that it's the sort of good looking doesn't listen, Fox. Anyway. Nice thing to say to somebody. I'm not going old, old dry head bloke. Yeah.
But that's realistically.
Now I get it. If you're a young dude, good looking with who's going real grind. You could be the silver fox. He was an elder with gray. Somehow we chatted and he was telling us that he's this. He's the Santa Maya, or one of the five to six centers that are at Maya. And he was an actor in a past life. And he's got kids that have now grown up and he just thought this is a
little Bunsen burner.
In a little bit of extra cash. You can see the extra cash.
Wonder if he gets paid cash and know when things are going to be a lot of checks. The interesting thing can you turn your phone off have devices liable for the again now the slide the who's who's telling that? The to come and film? It's me. What does that mean? Well, I just told you that I am. I said, darling, I won't have my phone on me. I'm doing a backup to iCloud. And so and we're about to go to a shoot so I will leave it plugged in.
So she say
I think get this. I didn't get this reference. He said to me.
Thanks, baby. Love you my special lobster.
lobster. I feel like I know that reference. I think we're talking about lobsters in something. Jordan Peterson talks about lobster. Yeah, I don't know what she's referring to me being a lobster. Yeah. Do I look like a lobster dinner? But the Santa thing? Yeah. A friend was telling me how they were like, if we go up with our kids, we don't. We wouldn't really trust the kid just being with Santa.
Because the Santa is a pedophile. That's what they would send us.
back down. Yeah. Like that's back.
But then there was another person like oh, yeah, no, we wouldn't. We wouldn't put like Johnny on the lap and not be there. I was like, Are you kidding me? Is that a common sort of common thing that people are like? You were saying he's getting each photo taken? Don't you think we're losing a bit of
magic your life if that's if that's okay.
He's a reality though. I am. There was Tom Brady,
who one of the bright lunch
from one of the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history. Tom Brady was that the dad's name now and Brady Bunch one. I can't remember he was married. He's Tom Brady. He's married to Michelle Bunton who was a who's a supermodel. And there was a video that came as probably this time last year, sometime last year. He was getting a massage because his professional sports players are constantly you know, he's constantly training looking after his body and he's kid comes into the room and sort of says something it's like some sort of candid video or like a part of some show. It's like a candid moments of just behind the scenes. The the Brady half. Okay, Brady Bunch. And is it now come back come back to the sound who's like, probably 1110 or 11? He's Yeah, no, come back. I want to kiss Nicky steady key steady on the lips. And you know, see another one. And they're kissing on the lips. And it's you can imagine the fucking headline that the that the newspapers, the desperate scumbags have fucking put together. Tom Brady, you know, kissing his child on the lips. Like it was gross there. But they were insinuating that so it's like by saying, You can't let your kids sit on Santa's lap. Yeah, you calling him a pedophile. So they're going Tom Brady your effect. And I'll be the first if Tom Brady comes out have something to say. That's fact. That's annoying. On if I was Santa, I would crack the shades.
If someone was like,
bright, you know what personal brand is like?
I'd be I would also be like, You know what? I don't want you fucking kidding me. Amai. Yeah, I would actually if I was Santa, I would say I want my mom around as well. You know, the problem. There's a flowing effect because I was infuriated when I saw that. Yeah. And,
and I have a dad. Yeah.
And I thought, fuck, I love it. When buddy kisses me on the lips. There was something it's like, we have each other's faces in each other's like, you know, I don't know. It's is the weirdest thing. Maybe it's like when you first get with a girl or a boy or your partner, and you love just being in each other's space. It's like, that is what I want. Maybe not voting. Bry just intimacy that I can get close enough to my son and see that even sounds like some good take that out of context. But I love my fucking son to death. But there is a so when you see those articles, and I saw Who was it? I won't say their name. But I probably will say that I can't remember. So now,
can I just quickly do an apology?
After but so this person I saw someone post a photo of in each other's faces. Yeah. A kid who someone on you as like, My mind goes, they're not to go. You're a fucking pedophile. But my mind's triggered based on hearing these articles and seeing this and then it's it's the swell. Yeah, that sort of gets generated by these things. Like, like your friend. I bet you they don't think or whoever that was. Yeah, but you don't actually think Santa? That is there is a pedophile boy, it's just doing the right thing there. Like, like, I'm a good parent, because I don't and I'm just like, Yeah, I think that's like a really sad place to be. We don't do apologies on the show, man. I'm sorry. I'm cutting that one off. There's no apologies. Okay, you just your own What you say? Or you bring it up or not? Well, then, this is the problem with making stuff every day. You say thing? Yeah. And then we look on upon reflection. You don't feel like you've got the personality that regrets those sorts of things. Now, because I've got you filtering and there's been a few instances in this podcast,
where Josh is cut something out.
Twice. Yeah. Yeah. There are that there's definitely and I think maybe if you cut anything out of this that you that I haven't known about now. You never go I say racist thing and then allow you to say the racist. Know, but I just think that there's a as we start to get more listeners, yes. All of a sudden, I start to think about like, oh, maybe it's re contextualizing the podcast and I have to worry about these things more. Yeah, maybe it's okay to not believe something that you've said years later. Yeah. Because you've changed your belief system and that's okay. I think that's the exchange with creating putting stuff out. Do you need to do you think you then if you're saying stuff about people do you need to then say Look, I'm sorry, I said that thing depends on what I think Yeah, sure. I think you can if you want to go hard on somebody. unico point hands in the fuck wait. There's probably a little thing is pulling. Yeah, yeah. Pulling hands. I like I'm happy to stand by that. But there's a bunch of other shit where it's like, ah, I don't necessarily but we were talking about bargains yesterday. Yeah. We love the bug and banter. little bug and banter. Peter shepherds who's been on the podcast? Yes. messaged in the periscope. Yes. Periscope.
Human Periscope. Yeah,
I like periscope pate.
If you want to rebrand mine, I'm a more supportive
change it to periscope Pete
pp. pizzas, wearing khakis and a hoodie out to breakfast. He said, in fact, Trekkies and hoodies to any male in a social setting is bogus. bogus. Yeah, we will we asked. Because we were sort of going through what we classify as bogus. I've laughed to myself walking down the street,
because all I was thinking about was combo.
To take out combo, when you actually don't need the combo. You're just pulling a fucking combo fraud. I had a friend that her dad's job is a doctor. And he deals with just combo cases. So he works at private investigators and stuff to look at if they're saying their backs really sore, and then they're lifting shit. They build out a case term for fraud. Yeah, I mean that. Yeah, that's fucking see. I watched this video. Mr. Nine is can you just look it up? Just to just find the name of it. I'll just I'll talk about it. And you can see if you can find it based on what I'm saying. It's so funny. I don't know, this guy has basically built technology like he's a he's a creator or like some scientists that's created stuff that's gone to Mars. But he's got these YouTube. He won months.
no, no, I don't know. It's gone to space. So he's basically an inventor who now has a YouTube channel. And he did this very sniffly to find lots of cocaine. Jackie, I don't know what happened there. Okay, I'm all good. But it was like a semi sniffle panic attack you like you said a thing imagine anyway, so this dude has this YouTube channel and I mean, I somehow started watching this video. What happened the reason he's made this type of video which is almost a prank video, and in the video says, I put it lightly prefaces. I don't do prank video, so I'm super anxious, comfortable about this. But he spent so much time on it. And he lives in a house that has Amazon he's American so just gets Amazon delivers like a lot of Americans. But what was happening in these neighborhood, people's Amazon things that were getting left at the front door were getting nicked. And so what he was trying to catch these people and he he built this fucking elaborate box that had he crafted it and had it 3d printed for this mount to have four phones. So like a square box, one on each end. So they using the camera from the phone that is pointing out so we can capture and basically the video as soon as it starts recording gets sent to iCloud so you get to store it. But what he built was this mechanical thing where he got the finest Lisa in the world feels at this top and he like he goes into how he built it's like this mechanical thing that sort of when the box gets lifted up it hits this latch that then start doing this right now and starts spraying the glitter so you've taken it off the cameras are capturing this fucking fine glitter just being shot all over the person and then within 30 seconds
every 30 seconds is a fucking toxic fat spray.
We've we've set up a geo fence around our area so if I'm not there, it will trigger in my pocket and tell me that someone's taken the taking the parcel
and is there a YouTube video or a YouTube video? Yeah,
that's it. So it looks like an iPhone. Yes, we will will put this up on Reddit not that we have done anything on Reddit in a while but
the talk show.com package
the verse glitter bomb trap it's had nearly 30 million views. It's on the number one trending No wonder we watched it worldwide. No wonder I mean I watched it because it's kind of an obscure so I'm excited to watch a video on this coming robot. Can you look up Mark rubber and give us his where he says dance. But it is so funny. And what I loved about it was it wasn't it wasn't like a hard prank video. It's like you get what you get. And I was like, yeah, take that. Because they're not getting hurt. They're like, Man, what the fuck one of the guys in the video? Because it's recording the audio. he's by himself. He's Uh, oh, man. My girlfriend's gotta think has some girls in here? Because he had glitch. Yeah,
Walking this morning. Yeah, a guy dropped a box of cigarettes on the ground like a bit of a little job.
Would you know what we call them?
little bags? No. gronk gronk
gronk Bogan. No, that's Bogan behavior. Yeah,
that guy drunk. Go. Is it? he's a he's a dragon. gronk gronk Bogan. But anyway, so I actually, I was with Peter at the time were walking. And I was like, I'm going to say something. And so I did. I got into character but pretend to be you. I said, I made he's halfway across the road. He dropped it at the lights. Good. He's halfway. I was like my, my, he turns around I said, Are you dropped your CDs? Yeah, I picked him up. And he wasn't going to cry. These are things and then he grabs it and then he missed the light like said the good thing was he missed the lights as well. So I got a real lesson Sakhi sack that there is a nice that's the nice way to do it. So there's no aggression. Yes, I I Dude, I am giving you the benefit of the doubt. I think that's the best way to go. You've dropped the dairies. You gronk I don't think you want to do the extreme aggression because it all you can be met back with these. What? Sorry, mate or aggression. So yeah,
I mean, I've met I've met a few of them with
aggression. Do you know what I've, I was listening to an ad this morning on the radio. And they were saying it was for adrenaline, like vouchers to do experiences. Adrenaline is a company that has experienced period batches, sort of like that red balloon. And that was saying, got the perfect gift for everyone. v a supercar Hot Lap for the guys and for the girls. Why not a beautiful balloon or a hot air balloon ride?
I'd pick the
fuck these guys. Do you think?
Am I being too pc? If I'm saying that this gendered advertising is is a bit bullshit. I think it's pretty correct it Bogan I think it's pretty correct. But I think it's pretty correct in in the audience that listen that the Bogan audience that listened to radio that are properly v. v eight heads. Yeah, think about it on in all the mechanics workshops. And, you know, just, I think get it though. Yeah, there is. You could just drop. See, I don't even want to. It's not like making I don't think it's something it's not a big deal. But you could totally just drop those two. What do you think it's more effective?
you know, like, I mean, we work in the space of audience, knowing our audience, who is majority of people that will go into the via, via a packet and rave head, you have a few black rats after
what's a black right? Black Douglas.
In case you don't know, like a bonding code, like a rum and coke, black rap. But the I was listening to maybe a two with Greg and Amira who have had on the podcast
Yeah, you know, I yeah. And the, though talking about being a bad receiver of gifts, and well, they told they told a story about a friend of theirs, who a mirror went to this friend's house, and there were these paintings on the wall, and mirrors like, oh, they're awesome paintings or whatever. And the friend said, a friend has a rich husband. And she says, Yeah, you mean she's rich? She's got a rich husband. Yeah, yeah,
they're a bunch of
money. But you basically said, a story about this. I was I went to a friend's house, it was an art dealer. And I said, I was she just started being an art dealer. And I wanted to be supportive. And I was saying, This is beautiful artwork. But this is the problem. So where I thought it was going was so then she felt obliged and ended up buying someone. No, that's not what happened. The friend who was the art dealer, code the husband and said, You have to buy these for her. She loves she would love and so then she then the husband buys the stuff, puts it up on the wall mounts, it puts it up on the wall and said, I've got a surprise for you. Look, I got these things. And so that friend would be making commission. Yeah. Isn't that so dirty? it you don't want to make like making money off your mates? Yeah. in that circumstance is is pretty fact. It's a similar we're selling discs? Well, I've got one left here in the office. Yeah. Three. So I've been I've been following them often. Because I think it's a I mean, this is the thing. People who do multi level marketing think they're offering value to their friends and they're selling to them. I actually think these desks are valuable. I paid 250 bucks. They were like nine or $1,000 Ah, my friend hand made them for us. Four of them.
And he didn't what you offer them to him first. Yeah,
I think about if I sell them for 1000 bucks he gave me gave him to me for 250 I just made four grand Yeah, that's on except Yeah, so I also you charging more than what they're worth for a second hand product which is also out right? Yeah, you know, you can for secondhand goods. Sometimes you fluke it, but my point was I can't imagine if he found out yeah, it was like your rat so I offered them to the same guy who that same track doing that is the same guy that steals grapes from Willie's? Why don't you think that's the same moral compass? 1000 bucks I got some good cash now. What are you waiting? Just some gripe not. So I'm the guy that does the great fear. I'm the other guy that I've got Stan. Yeah,
bro. But you draw the line is higher than grapes.
Now you're pretty you're actually quite astute at selling things. But why are you said to make Tom you sold him a desk?
Telling me desk? Oh, Tom. Yeah, sorry. I think in comics.
I sold it to him next. So Tom sold him a desk said to 50 and then he texted and he said I how much was it? I'm transferring you through now as I had to transfer through 200 Yeah, I was being nice isn't. So sheet in terms of making money. This is the whole thing friends I struggled to sell to friends. And so it was look just he said, because there's one with a bit of a stain that I was going to sell cheaper for 200 bucks. And he said, which Which one was it? I can't be bothered getting into this. Just to think I reckon if you charged the right price for desk, yes, you'd be able to afford the fruit. So the guy made the desks. I asked him Do you want them for what you gave them to me for because then you could sell them for a lot more for you because they're branded pays for him? To know you sell them and you make money. Okay, and I can do that I can make any more than what I had. So I am selling them. Sell them. But yeah, it is hard. It's a hard one.
We're getting close to the end of the year. Yeah.
Sorry, Mason, Mr. 97. He does he have an update? Nod your head on that blog. Some stats that we can guide the guy who's got the number one trending video you know what in the world on YouTube? What? What do we know? Yeah,
smoke cable. Yeah. Now he's a he's an engineer at NASA. He worked on the Curiosity rover, some curiosity. Smart now he's a YouTuber. He's really done. He's gone the full, full circle. In the back end of the career creativity thinking about the next year. It's talking to a mate. going through a divorce at the moment. Yeah. I was he was asking me what my sort of thing is for the year I'm like consistency, just want to be consistent. And he was saying this year was that? No, that's for 2019. That's where I want to be consistent. Is that your mood or? Definitely not? Definitely. Well, because of my moods based on yours, and I can't rely on that.
Oh, is that a good troll? Yeah,
that's a good one.
We're mixed bag Josh. Yeah, we are. Yeah,
And so you know, he was talking about consistent is gotten right into our Jordan Peterson. I going through divorce. It's great. He's got a nickname from JP. What would JP do? Jp says this. And he was saying here JP us talks about consistency. I think everyone's seeking consistency. And he was talking about the idea that we were sort of we we live in adolescence for a lot longer, we get to 30 before we actually get our shit together, adolescence, so those that the mindset you gather throughout your, your childhood and in detains. Yeah, I totally agree with that. I feel like that shifting out of that sort of, it's even relating to family and relying on people. And it's, it's super, like, if you take all of that off the table, there's a lot of ownership that you need to, you know, except, and, and life. Yeah, life is challenging. And so yeah, I totally agree with that. Shifting out of that sort of younger mindset, maybe how do you feel as a younger brother? Have you? Did you feel that now I feel like an older sibling? in some regards, you're not so yeah, but what I mean, so what's your what's your take on this new year? How are you going to approach it? Yeah. What's your focus on creativity? What does that look like?
I've been thinking a lot about
giving up alcohol for a whole year.
How much you drinking and
see this thing? Right? People go? He's a few responses. If I say that's what like how much you drinking in a year, or do you have a problem? And if there's some adolescent behaviors that I've carried on, I've been drinking every other weekend, sometimes excessive, sometimes not. Sometimes 10 weeks without it, but there's never going to be down 10 weeks I last year. No, I didn't do it this year. Last year, I did a long stint, which was one of the longest I've had end on the two years ago. Did I have the first news a sidebar? Sorry, we've just got some breaking Bogan news. houseboats. I just crushed a baby on my scalp. And now just jumped on the Jets.
Jets game. Bowden. Yes. Right. So you've, yeah,
the first New Year's a show about so going into the new year sober in, I would say close to 15 years. And that's like, so this is where you go? What defines a problem? excessive drinking every night? I think that is a problem. Yeah. But then what what is? I see not having a year off? In my nearly, you know, 1516 years of drinking is I see that is like, Why can I do that? I see it as a hard thing. So I've been getting into that Goggins guy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, he can hurt me. He's He's a book listening to an audio audio book at the moment waiting for his actual book to arrive. Just a hard, hard bastards. He's all about just like, you think you know, the limit of your capacity? Well, they're much further beyond that. I stopped listening to it at night though, because I felt like it was going to give me nightmares. Yeah, just like the ship that he his childhood. It's a little bit it's a very long, but he's all about just you can be tougher, I think. And you can put you can get through pain. And there was one thing that he said this, like, their successes on the other side of discomfort and it's and it's such a classic line, right? Yeah, but so something that has worked hard on the other side of that is his success or some kind of reward. And for me thinking about a year off alcohol that's fucking hard. Like, just going down you don't do it. So it's like means conspiracy. Jimmy. I one of my favorite things is just punching four pints with him to do for fizzy waters. Yeah, punching four pints and then down and backers, and then just you know, having good solid combo getting a bit of a buzz. And so it's hard. And so I feel like when I'm mentioned this to a bunch of people, not you, because you I mean, you're just asking normal questions, but I think there's like a lot of people find that challenge it like, find it confronting or a triggered by it. Because it's a fucking hard thing to do to just say no to something for a year, when you've been in a pattern of doing it for so many years. So I my point about not the word, but I've been thinking a lot about that. You know, there's so many benefits, feeling of, you know, time that you get back money that you're not spending, I'm a better person when I fucking haven't been drinking you every irritable button The next day, if I've been drinking, and it's just like, you just fucking shit annoys you a bit more than normal. I don't think we're optimal drinking. But anyway, but what do you think there's a risk in especially in the US weed? Being legal in places? Do you think that there's a risk and people self medicating on other things? Or do you think, like, do you ever worry, drop drinking and drinking and then being like, yeah, I'm just gonna have a every edition blinds a bit? Yeah, I'm thinking about 00. You wouldn't external altering things like smoking weed, taking any drugs is like, yeah, I, the whole thing is, if I'm going to take if I'm going to get off, might as well.
Because I don't like,
you know, you could say it's a release, you know, you've had a hard day to release. In my opinion, it's an external thing that you're relying on, to give you that release. So it's not like it's not in turn, you're getting something putting it into you. So then there's, I think I see that as the problem. What do you think you may? What do you think you use that time? How many hours? Do you think you'll gain a year by doing that? Yeah, I should know. Maybe it's just about like, it's a Jimmy site, maybe we could choose to do something different. Or in that time, where we've punching four pints, yeah, and go on a Mac, go for a walk, I could do something productive for our business, for the podcast for my content that I'm putting it not that not everything, I think part of the race, like you're listening to common and to me, means podcaster. Say, the, we don't need to be optimized all the time. We don't need to always be do it. Like I think that there is like talking to Peter, about the daily talk show. And I was trying to get some feedback from him as I love to do. And he was sort of saying, sometimes this shows where like, I don't necessarily like it's more just a laugh and fun. But it's not like specific like he loves when we have jewels, or Hey, Michelle, Seth Godin on or we're talking about creativity. Yeah. But then there's also that thing of like, do you want that all the time? does everything needs to be optimized to be getting something out of it? Yeah. I think giving a choice other than, for me alcohol, it's a poison that you put into your body is like legit, fucking poison. But then there's enjoy. I don't I there's no nothing inside of me that saying, stop drinking, because then I'll work every second day. So I think you'll replace I think naturally we replace things with other like, if you want to get rid of a bad habit, replace it with another habit. So I'm curious. It's like with the social media stuff. I don't feel like even though I'm off, I've switched that time at the moment, if I'm being honest, into like, refreshing our podcast analytics, and like, clicking through to like, what does it look so you don't set out with the conscious mindset of I will place it with these. Yeah, it will just you'll be you'll replace it with something that's not you're not conscious to it. Yeah.
As long as it's not some
bad thing. Yeah. I don't I don't think, you know, like, social like, this is you saying? What's the thing that sort of that similar refreshing stats? It's still within the same ballpark it
was doing it's during the same debate for alcohol?
I don't know. It's like that time.
See, this is the thing I can't see there's a I can't see a similar thing. So it's not like I've said the pub thing. So you need to play within the context that you're going to be drinking so is it getting into cards,
cat? As he the first
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no chance poker, no chance. I'd like to try and more I'd like to exercise more human trained more with cards. That is part of it. No, but exercise more. I don't know. I think it's it's a good time. I haven't made the decision. And it's not to say that I'd stop drinking forever. Because I love I love getting love having a red wine. And so they have a funny is this slightly equivalent, we're talking about it the other day, where people will say that they like a certain thing that they actually like the other. So people will say, I love drinking black coffee, if they're going for coffee roaster job but a cafe, I don't find the. So they drink. I drink a lot, a lot of red wine more so in the winter. It's like a winter like it. I'd rather drink cold beer. In the summer. I hadn't had much drinking, we were getting. We were drinking a bottle, a couple of bottles awake, one bottle awake. And that's what has to be right doesn't have to be Oh, if you really went the other way with news resolutions where I was like, maybe I could imagine just chilling, having a red wine or you want to get
right, you want to step into my shoes. But
I was like, I don't know if that's helpful for me. Yeah,
I is it is there any place for unproductive resolutions, where it's like I'm purely doing this because we were we're going to do a Docker one. Alcohol consumption code when I drink. We have the domain name. We're going to do that this time last year. And we were looking at some researchers basically saying that like a Bell Curve, Curve, bell curve, bell curve curve. And I was saying, basically, if you were if you don't drink at all, you have higher anxiety. And if you drink a lot, you have high anxiety. People in the middle who just drink a little bit have lower anxiety. You show me one of those people who drinks a little bit and what is that defined as that's the hard thing. Because in Australia, drinking a little bit is only having one glass of wine today. So that's my that's what that's my perception of what people probably think. Oh, you know, I may have the occasional I'll just have one drink of an evening. I mean for me as soon if I have one glass of wine, I feel different. Like it changes my way. Yeah, yeah, it gives you a little buzz, I can feel so it goes. But it's beyond the taste. I like the taste of it. The other reward is the feeling that gives my body and whether I'm sincere. I can drink a lot. It's probably because I've been drinking for so long. Like if we drank four pints now in the next couple hours, I'll be fine, you'd be spewing. And it's just the time frame of doing it. So even though I have drank a lot I still feel the fixed very quickly. a backhoe doesn't mean I'm drunk from one glass just means I'm feeling so that's my worry rides like if it's once a day six, seven days a week. You will having an altered state from external subjects soon as well. So this is for me. It's like, I don't care if people drink. I like drinking. So where do you want to so the result will be early mornings waking up. Do you think on the weekend? I'm not at that point anymore where I can't get Fuck it. So where's the where's the benefit? is you can't get fuck it anymore. Which I've never said before in my life. Fuck i'd Yeah, if you see k dash a why a fuck ahead. Yeah, it's a 97. Can you look up? Fuck it.
so what's the actual if you if you're not,
I think here's the thing. I know myself. And this is why it probably doesn't affect people. Someone else who doesn't think like me? no one else's May my so I know that. If I drink and I drink hard today. Yeah. Tomorrow, I'll be more irritable and more likely to blow up or get frustrated at Bodie or Amy.
So it's like I'm isn't that interesting, though? Because
I'm not. I'm 100 right person? Yeah. I'm not the person who I want to be not a great dad, which is not a great dad. See, there's the thing, right? You say that it's like, there were I would think that there was a lot of people that if they looked at themselves would be there. And then you think about that person that you then become, is that the person that you think you are? Or you're okay with saying you're that person? And I'm not trying to be high and mighty. But so I don't know if I am. I don't like that. Because that is funny. You say that because that's how I feel about food. The exact same comparison. It's like if I had a poor lady, and so that it's the same argument in some regards that people give, which is like I'll say, I'm not doing sugar anymore. Yeah. So are you being silly? You speak silly now. You don't need to get rid of it. You seem to have less? Yeah. Isn't that the same? Russia is a different? Fuck it. Is it a thing? Okay, so So yeah, no hyphen, the hyphen, just one word.
And what is fat guide me
to be extremely drunk. Yeah, a term coined off the fact when this occurs, your eyes are half shot and you look like a magnet for the rest of the
pack your magnet my
bra. Yeah, so.
Okay, so So I see that and then the response to that could be just have a little bit so we've I have a little bit of it. I don't know if they're all continue having a little bit all the time. But I hope because you get annoyed at me with the food thing because you because you will say now you've been fucking weird about it or you're upset like taking it off the table. That's That's fucking too far. Like you're being weird about it. You just need to see policy saying the going to the extreme. You getting rid of alcohol, I feel like is the exact same thing of me doing a diet. So what's the solution? What do you think from your person? I think nothing to do with alcohol, you and food? What would be the actual solution? If you feel if you if it puts you into a place where you're the you're in congruent to the person you want to be when you are doing it? Have you thought about it? Well, I think that it's reconciling the, okay, why am I I'm being conscious in when you're doing that? Why am I drinking? Am I drinking because of social circumstances? I am I drinking to numb feeling? Am I drinking because I actually had a bad day and I need to unwind. And so for me, you can replace the drinking with eating. So it's like, do what I the reason why I'll eat like the rest of the ice. Like I can rationalize inside look. I said to myself the other weekend and like, if there is ice cream in the freezer, if there's any leftover I'll finish the tub. That was my rule. Like you know what, it's 5050 there might not be Oscar and probably in the back of my head on you. Just bought it. He saw it later that you know and i i the ice cream. How much wasn't in scope? So I decided I was in the tub. Yeah. Okay. And so the thing is, but it is why was I do and then I was like I can't have a wagon wheel. And then I'll have a mike. Well, yeah, well, the thing is, it's like, then you're like, well, how much new body? What's, what's 1000 verses 1500 cows. So that well, I might as well just like fucking dump it. Oh, you know what? I'm gonna pretend like I've just gone to a fro yo. And I'm just adding some bits. I've had the ice cream. And I feel like I want some bits of justification. You can have a wagon wheel as I actually, this. This is just a little bit of how about I just drink wine? So I don't drink beer takes a lot off the table. Just drink. Right? That's like me saying I'm only going to just eat m&ms. Okay, enjoy. No, it's actually no, you know, it's like,
just slap my hand.
slap my hand. I've got no candy in here, B boy.
It's the equivalent of saying I'm going to adopt chocolate.
And is it better than having it open? Or is it so is that better than saying zero chocolate? Or I'll just try and cater to. I'll just try and be good or using based on but what about if I bring the question back to me just having dark chocolate? Because you always crack it because I was I said I didn't have dinner. And I had a little bit of dark chocolate. Yeah. Oh, my affected chicken. Did you talk about each other with the Emma. I'm fine right now. I'm just telling you what I had last night. What's the answer, though? Is it I don't know. I just wanted to bring that that's good is a good one. Good accent I've changed my accent from that. One of the haters shepherds favorite thing. My mom's was my choice. It's the best. It's one of the ways. So is the so if we go back to Goggins and on the other side of that pain, because I think it would be hard for you to say 00 chocolate, zero dark chocolate. So if dark chocolate is a thing, so rather than going sugar, because sugar is in so many things, if you just look at chocolate as a thing, she likes to wait. And you do it occasionally and you've refined it too. So be like me justifies it on the red wine, or something. I don't spend any money on alcohol. No, I can't. None of my friends can actually buy me I never was at a con if I won't go to a party and there's like, a bar or a night. I tried that. And then you go to virgin lounge. Yeah. Bye.
taking them out, right.
It's always the party. Mr. 97. Can you put together a list of the free functions on that?
Tell me why you going to the art gallery tonight.
I wear Hawaiian shirts now. But now. What about? Not I don't. I was gonna say what about you quit black. You just take chocolate off the table and I take our coffee now. I didn't care about you. I do but I I can't tell you I can't back and you won't do it if I come up with it. If anyone ever said, Unless I got me a million bucks with a bunch of cash. But taking it off the table. It's had the sugars because it's all mental that we've talked about fruit fruit toast. I need to take that off the table. Yeah. Yeah, but then. Yeah, it's it's all do you think not because you probably first toasted isn't your problem?
That chocolate problem No,
I don't think john chocolate is a problem. I think fruit toast is I think the food addiction. So I don't think that I'm an addict. So I'm not comparing this to someone but so someone if you were similar to me, my mind my thinking is the the sugar thing. And it is harder because it's an everyday thing at all for me is not I do it at functions. I do events or do it at home. It's like well, you brought gummy bears gummy worms from across. Yeah. conspiracy. Jimmy, why do we even get them? I wondered a little. So you just asked and he just says 97 can you look at what the we don't even know how many calories? I was gonna say, the definition of addiction
Because I guess part of the problem. I feel that sometimes people say I'm not addicted, I just like it. But it seems like it's the one of the same thing. It's like to unwind, I like to just have a drink. I like to just, you know when I get home? I think I agree. Alright, so yes, the
97 What is the definition of an addiction? Yeah,
well, the government reckons it's addiction is a physical or psychological need to do or take or use something to the point where it becomes harmful to you.
So the point where it comes up becomes harmful.
At what point in putting poison in your body full stop sugar in your body is not having a half a planet of any describe ice cream half a year later. Half a tub. Half a tub of ice cream. Is that harmful? There's a lot of sugar content that Yeah, right. And we look at Jen refined sugar in 40 years time high fidelity talk show.com a tub of ice cream harmful or not? I think it is,
I think I felt shit. Yeah.
So maybe, I think it is. But so let's we need to refine what we're like the whole goal thing that I think we could do on our new show. Yeah, I think it was still gonna be the time. It's fun. I'm pondering the alcohol. Because I fight I think what do you need to ponder about? What do you need to actually work out? I feel like it's a thing that I want to do. And I'm just just sort of exploring, I feel like I'm closer to actually making a commitment. Because it is like think about us overseas. I think about all the contacts I've made, like, catch up with for be like it is I think this is why you would decide I can't not eat sugar, because you start. But isn't that funny about the I think the experience you're having is the experience I have with food. And because it's like bad.
The ice cream
is definitely just I can split in the wagon wheel into just with the marshmallow licking the marshmallow. I've never done that before always go home. No, but I think that the that thing of like time be weird about it, stop thinking about it just doing it. I think you could apply it to this sort of thing to which is like, you could rationalize it for hours, you could be like, put out a map and being like, well, I actually have a friend's wedding in August. And that's actually in March in March. Is that really really thinking? Yeah, and so it's like to I need 100% it's the it's totally what you do you start going down that rabbit hole. But then I also realize how silly that is, of my own stupidity and new friends that was like, are we going to do a month of no alcohol? And they're like, actually, I've got an event on the third that I want to drink. So let's do it from this the fourth until the fourth that I just feel like that's fucking defeating the purpose stick to the month. And dry July, you can purchase a day off 30 days have September, April, June and November. So 3031 days in July. So it's a good if you are real alcoholic, you'd pick fed to 28 days. So what's happening with the him? Yeah, we could. We could have him run tomorrow. Can you deliver it to Robbie Ward? Bad luck. All right. Oh, we I heard on the radio that it's been hard to get him.
I've seen hands at the local supermarket,
you're going to be able to get
we haven't specified the size the ham.
We have not specified whether it's shaved head. Now it won't be shaved down. It will be something that is we need to work out what Rob wants I think mate Do you get to choose when you call no over what you want? Yeah, well you get the voucher and then you go and you buy the one that you know you get the voucher and you go down pick up the fucking little leg a hand giving away choosing not getting a voucher to just go I won't have a few local flags. I'll get a few little cutlets and what how much we got left it a salami high the deli toasted outcome if you want to send us an email. Otherwise we'll say to my guy