#054 – Relaxing on Good Friday/
- March 30, 2018
The Daily Talk Show — Friday March 30 (Ep 54) – Josh Janssen & Tommy Jackett. –
Easter, don’t eat where you shit and our thoughts on fame.
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It is the daily talk show everyone Episode 54 we fact up
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yesterday saying that that was 54 night when you get into these numbers it's
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what it happened in the last in the double digits now we were taught he said I was good at Good Friday today is happy Good Friday so well I wanted to bring it up with you okay Good Friday yeah I'll tell you my interpretation of what's going on yep you can tell me I'll tell you about Islam yes and you can tell me if I'm right or wrong well you know that we have a Christian the house yes I went to Bible College will have to my wife while I was seeking I didn't know whether she wants to become the go to Christian
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Church in about a year it's a bit of a niche but anyway
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so Easter yeah Jesus so let me finish the whole thing and then we can see where I've gotten wrong if I've gotten it wrong Good Friday we can't have made him stop red meat and stuff on Good Friday because that's like eating Jesus because on Good Friday Jesus died on Sunday he comes back is that correct? I think that's what's correct hang
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on let me just get just quickly
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though why today call it Good Friday if it's when Jesus died true I want to get my wife okay real quickly I get a Alright
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everyone while we white the daily talk show that you're listening to and please send your emails to high at the daily talk show.com and good plugging then letting the Torah I'm good at and we do where we are on Instagram the daily talk show on Instagram 32 followers yeah it's huge I must we're gonna have to just use this mic because we didn't plan to share my pits lazy but I'll allow it because she's your wife so good. Good Friday yeah so talking through Easter This is what I thought happened Jesus died on Friday which is why we can't have Redmond comes back on Sunday thing I'm not sure on is why we call it Good Friday if it's if he died great question
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um.
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How much did you pay for going to Bible College probably too much
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well you ain't it we learned back all exactly well this is a problem this is probably thought like they all they do is sing nowadays. She
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asked for donations
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you would just like I don't know if there's any lyrics on that.
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So it was just true and saying was our diet and Friday came back on Sunday? Correct. And Resurrection Sunday. That's what that's cold. You're welcome. But this is what I had yesterday. Which I thought was interesting. The reason that you have fish is because apparently there was some fish market people who were saying complaining to the king and saying we're not selling and our fish and he goes Oh, I know how to solve that. I'll just tell everyone that that's what they have to eat it on. Good Friday. This is a classic isn't it?
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Okay it's a little bit confusing and then so does that make a wonder how many feel a fellow fishes Philadelphia I have fish fillet fish that they sell me actually locks philosophy Should I do and I worked at hungry jacks and McDonald as like dragging
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a hungry Jacks on Good Friday hates a fish burgers and quite a few chicken burgers. Also for the people who don't like seafood.
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You know what I'm gonna say something really disgusting and I want to ask you guys if you have the same issue hungry Jacks one of the few foods smells the same way after when you ship them when you ate it. Like it's like the you know the smoky smell. It's like It's so fucking it's just like a liquid smell that just goes straight through so like I could if if someone did a shish I could tell you if they had hungry jacks or not let the devil water right
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all right that's it thank you Miss Buster time
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Exactly. We did a chat in charge taught Josh eats Tommy shit
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Hey me. Sorry. Hang on one thing she what's the they shall not something in the village they should not it was like something in the Bible that talks about don't shit and your village don't
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don't shit where you anyway that's just problem I just needed that. So regardless of what you think about religion, not you personally but anybody it's like there is something in the Bible and I heard this being talked about another podcast and I was around something that was in the Bible written years ago before science was even a thing and it was around know like aside from the beta terms sign
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it is like the way that he's packing science was the thing Yes, yes.
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Anyway and it was something written there I don't know the exact term but it's like don't sheet in the village oh shit where you ate so it's like you need to leave the village to do a poo yeah and the whole thing I was so people don't get sick but how the fuck did I know that has they know that like my like you people were getting sick from faces and the amount of bacteria that was being you know spread through that and so it's like this thing where it's years ago this person who's the leader or the person that everyone's looking to is saying these things and they're written into this book and people follow it and it allows evolution yeah because if people were just shooting in the village everyone was going to die well it's almost like test and
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learn really literally it's like okay enough pain factor for people died what what did they to devalue debate where they ship let's try not doing that
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was that Trevor? Who etc. Trevor's dying because he's eating issue. In fact. Yeah. I'm seeing connections here between Trevor rating sheet and die and Hi. Yeah,
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I do. Yeah. I feel like I mean, how do you feel about medicine in general, say, for instance, antibiotics. When I say antibiotics, what do you think
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health now now
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because
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So, for instance, antibiotics, I think like sore throat, glandular fever, like some sort of fracking tonsillitis clitoral erections, and
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kids were always taking antibiotics tonsillitis but the thing is that there is like such a push you know with like hashtag gut health and you know the gut is like the second Brian and all this shit that's going on which is probably like hundred percent true there's so much we don't fucking know when there's like there's all those numbers that they throw at you which is like there are more fucking cells in your gut than there are in the fucking solar system or whatever fucking thing they say but
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I feel like in the
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what's I co What was I just saying what and what's the what's the it bother anybody yeah they change of time like I feel like antibiotics now
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Bray was getting some antibiotics and people like at her work just like what like she got went to a dermatologist and like oh yeah take some antibiotics skin
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it's a low dose yeah but the people at her
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work she's like very chick heavy office and they're all like no that's terrible for you can't do that
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but it's interesting because it's like it is that we have gone very push back on yeah
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i mean that's why you need to counter this stuff and it's not in the idea is you shouldn't be needing any box so like, if you need it, you need it right well, that's why I said to Bray I'm like you need to have tried everything else Yes. Before you do that. See I took a low dose of antibiotics for my skin yeah it helped but I was taking one every dial think or every second day and I don't know how much it changed me but like now I can't I think more about it going fuck I hope you don't need antibiotics. That's why people drink kombucha have also got Yeah, although biotics but a yogurt Yeah, yeah, to to assist with that. I mean, fact, it's like people who are gluten intolerant like really close not just ones who celiac see the actual and then they stopped eating and they realize how much better they feel. But
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doing the other funny thing is, I've over the last few years, I've had a few potential clients I've spoken to that are in the medical industry. It just it's a hard fucking game because it's, um, because they combining marketing to people with like, trying to solve a problem. And there's sort of so many things that you would think would be clean cut that just aren't whether like, Oh, we can actually site like, there's so many things which are sort of in the world as we like, I yeah, coconut oil is, you know, good fee skin or things like that. Yeah, but actually putting it like saying some of these things as a marketing speak. You can't do it just because they're actually once you go into the research facility, certain areas, it's like there's actually not enough evidence to say that this would be good for this or that or had hands clap did fact Jesus have to just get the fish sales app fact? I don't know what the SAM I still don't understand. I would like to know there is something exciting I when I was in year 11, I decided to take on classics is subject to the VC so you wouldn't know about it? Yeah, it left me attain the thanks Josh. No, it was like I'm fact I don't even know like it's like
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I don't even know what history
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history it's like stray but it's like you know like all the great shift and all that sort of thing yeah like I'm horrendous when it comes to that sort of shit which is like understanding like brain I going to Europe later this year. I feel like I've so much to learn any more dots just being able to appreciate things when you have a appreciate it long here but the thing is, you need to fucking understand what's going on right because I just have no sense of like, okay, I actually can't place anything that sort of beyond you know, the 1900s which is what is that the 20 20th
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century even that it's only been recently that I'm like okay 20th century what does that actually mean? Like what are we so the 21st century you know how you just have these things that like you constantly people are referring to but then you actually like pull it apart and yeah okay this is what this means anyway Hot Cross Buns yeah
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when they come into effect in popularity
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yeah I have fucking no idea but they've got the it's interesting yeah well that's the thing like the crosses like we are a Christian country which is a weird thing decide anything well America is too yeah some of the biggest countries in the world but the fact that America is like way more Christian the Maya
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yeah yeah especially you go to fucking Texas and have these huge churches were you talking about the the majority of people in the country that are really just in some respects most likely going to be Christian
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will our has like Uber driver pole the other day Christian talking about just like, like, when I talk to religious people, sometimes it's not even they're not. They don't really even get into the details of things. They like, Look, I really just do it because I made something just to be like, less fucking sad about all the ship What's going on? Yeah, that's what he said. You didn't eat. That was basically what he was. He
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was conga nice. Or Kong from the Congo and family from the Congo lived in Johannesburg. Yeah. And now lives in Australia.
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Interesting to
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be Yeah,
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lived in some interesting places. But religion, all of this stuff sort of ties into I guess it's like community for what? Like, you create a community and then it's sort of like organizing people and values and ideas. And yeah,
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we're talking yesterday about like businesses, and like, what is what is the role of an organization? You know, like in a capitalist society? How much should they be caring about money versus the well being of their employees. And the example that will was talking about specifically was Uber. So Uber right now, they paying Uber drivers to be able to go around, you know, I'm driving people and that is like, the selling point, if you have had little fucking video vignettes of hide, you know, like a company like ours, to create these little videos on our, the, the the mom that gets to be an Uber driver and make a bit of cash. And there's one on the internet recently, of the women in the Uber. Yeah, yeah,
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it was. Yeah, I knew your guy there. Yeah. So you saying that they they are pushing, look at this opportunity to be self employed, if you're not working, and you can start making money today. Yeah,
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but also, like, we're enabling people to live their best lives. So the thing however, like,
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what happens, what happens when the driverless car comes? Mm
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hmm. You know, what's the plan? Yeah, they're gonna they're gonna fuck them off straightaway. And so that, then it brings up the that question, which is like, okay, so initially, they servicing people right now as drivers, because that's actually best for their bottom line. They need the workers. But what happens to those workers when we don't need them anymore? Most people
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will have an idea. I actually hadn't thought that I didn't think a lot of people would have thought
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because that would you'd think that's an internal discussion. Do you think that's within the CEOs that all the fucking out
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like, as in Uber, specifically, 100% they have tests around the us right now testing driverless cars, do you remember when we were in a Uber in I think was with you? Or maybe it was with someone else might about I don't know if I told you story. I was in an Uber and Sydney and I was having a conversation about driverless cars is probably a year ago with the Uber driver and I was saying what was going what I thought was going to happen, which is basically he was going to be out of a job. And as I left the Uber, he said, I How long do you reckon can until this all happens? I said on alright. Can three to five years, Mike or I have a good day. And
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it sees my fucking mind be
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like, like,
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someone got you. And video? Yeah. Well, somebody to take the job. Three to five years. You're unemployed? You be fact. All right. Bye. Have a good one.
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I haven't been to start writing. Yeah, but it is. Um, yeah, it does. It does start to
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it does start to bring up those questions. I'm like, What is what's rate out, like, what's retail going to be like. So the
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one of the associations that sort of represent retail
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went to Fair Work Australia or whatever organization is and says, we, we don't want to give our retail employees any pay rise this year, not even inflation. So whatever the topic central whatever that you expect, just to be able to leave at the standard that you were last year
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RETAIL IS SO fact that we basically want to get the tick of approval to not have to give everyone that so I think it's fair, I think it's fair from the business. It's not fair for the employee. But I think these businesses won't be around what they
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say. And this is the thing and so this is the, the interesting part of it, which is like, you have this push and pull, which is like, okay, we want to it's like, like, I think we're empathetic to the businesses as well, because we run businesses, and it's like, we obviously want to pay people as much as we can pay them. But at the same time, if we're not making enough money, it's like the whole oxygen mask thing you need to put on your mask before you help others. Because if we're not all said, if we, if I can paying people when we and we're out, we're completely stretched and we're struggling to pay our fucking retail lease and suppliers and all that sort of shit, those people aren't going to be in a fucking job in a year. So I sort of understand the, that retail associations approach which is high
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for us to survive right now. We all need to take we all we all need to sort of
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what you would describe it basically take a step back and say, Okay, well, what can What can I do to be able to help this system grow? I'm realized that that's not just the default that you're always going to be getting high
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rise. I think there's a kids these days and I kids these days, I don't know maybe I was one of them. But it's I think people like people are expecting 27 bucks an hour. Yeah, for most jobs, whatever it fucking is, like, entry level jobs. And people just Oh, yeah, I'm not doing that. Unless it's like kids that want to get paid for, you know, under 30 bucks an hour. Yeah. And,
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and that was even may thinking about like, having a kid on doing work experience. I was thinking, Okay, what should I be paying? Like, and there's the part of me, which is like, Oh, you know, what, I want to, you know what
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to pay them. Okay. Like,
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it's almost like an ego thing in summer gods. Or it's like this thing where it's like, I want to be known as the guy who looks after people, right. But then I was like, really deconstructing it. And I was like, actually, the biggest thing if I pay this person, well, then it's going to be become about the money it's gonna be like, okay, I want this because I can actually buy things but what happens if I create enough friction for them? If I say I'm going to pay you the fucking minimum that I have to pay you and you're going to work and then all of a sudden I have to make a decision which is in the working in the making in the pushing themselves forward versus trying to make cash
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Yeah, it's interesting. I
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was out last night working Fuck you. Right. So you you you worked on a shoot with me I got one day we left it I left my house at 7am got home at 7pm yeah and then had some dinner went to bed woke up at 12am I had like three a three hour nap maybe not even two and a half hours on embed like Yeah, yeah, I got into bed and then I went and filmed some stuff at a club nightclub 12 1245
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two to 45 saying yes how that fact may what sort of people around at that time loose units really a like those Easter holidays any kind of holiday Labor Day weekend like people just fucking go hard I saw it oh I there was people just off their face like their eyes just popping out of their heads fine No aggression or anything I've got beaten by it sounds really weird I tell me tell us
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some do some guy beat my arm in the club I guess you're a bit of a tough when you've got a camera and stuff I used to do like we've had conversations about this before but from like the age of 16 to 18 yeah a way that I made a bit of money was doing the event same space so it started off may 18, 21st
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and then join all the
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university events so it'd be like out sponsored by fucking what's the big boost brands trying to think that was kind of remember the names now but everyone had the fucking land use it as a caddy exactly
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yeah people would just get fucking loose and I was even the other day I found out footage I was sort of scrubbing through it really quickly trying to find people I because I'm like fuck this definitely hold that I would work with now who are a few years older than me that I was probably at their fracking commerce
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hotties anyway so you were you got a fucking bitten I had my hands like holding the camera app is so fucking busy and I had my hands above my head with the camera and this dude just put my arm like really lightly and he kind of just it was it was weird because he just gave me this like cheeky logo and then I can go back to dancing what sort of bought there's just like a like a funny he almost like if you're biting your babies and just putting your teeth around
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so fucking we'd rather just like you with with he doing it for attention from might
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not use just a tall dude my arms or are you just like
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literally turned him around it's almost like an equivalent of that would be like give you a little tickle or something just like tickle your arm yeah
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whatever it sounds we doing the site but it was like I got the I got it
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and then on the way how am I saw a girl getting out of what looked like an Uber and she just
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really fast sure it'll what
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I I don't really have you know people talk when they talk about travel they talk about nightlife I'm Josh who just love the nightlife we had with the bed because I like it I didn't have that much experience on nightlife like it's all
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alcohol fueled I've done that I've padded at this club is a kid like is not i'd a neural 19 year old and and then overseas. I've done the nightlife in all the places
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easier any quarter. So there are some places Asia places like Pakistan where the nightlife is actually fucking interesting. Yeah, there's just people are awake. And it's it's not like booze filled or anything like that. It's literally like my mate Mohammed Harris talks about this in a video that I made with him it's like if you want food a three I am you just go out into a store and there's a dude making I think
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it's because I don't do the nightlife like that anymore. If I went to America might guy at party a little bit because there's some fun stuff there. But
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in Europe we like this. You go and watch sunsets and this fact loads of people just there to watch the sunset or take food or take booze or whatever and you just literally watching something like in Florence there's this beautiful Hill you should go there if you stay in Florence and it's like this it's the way I told you about I went there with the blind guy and he said How was the view as the joke is a fucking legend traveling the world by himself weapon anyway we went to this spot we walked up there yeah we took some wine stuff they have food trucks up there you don't have to drink and so that's like the nightlife and then you go out for dinner first and then go and do that so there is like Italy there's lots of nightlife in terms of markets like restaurants on the water
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is it is it a night club he sort of saying or a full on yeah yeah there's full on nightclubs in Italy Florence It was a hipster dwarfs Paris is it an age thing like is that like a young crowd no just people drinking I loved like Barcelona they had like the beach or whatever like new sort of the city which is really beautiful good clubs there really
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but you're going to be drinking to it Yes He's the worst place to be
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but I don't you think it's a little bit like do I sound like a bit naive or I might it's a bit mind numbing like to do do not want to know what nice for like just
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not my ears ringing when I go home but I got felt the energy like I was film you know like you start as tired when you start and then you start getting energy into it. I was into it by the end of it. I can move up the tree sounds so much like my drink but I haven't slept at night and yeah but there it is mind numbing it to some degree but you yeah when you drunk it's different for people to want to talk to everyone because I haven't done like a club shoot like that and ages so I had so many people Yay. Yeah thanks and then just stand back with a friend's wedding for a photo yeah it's like it's really oh oh oh sorry sorry that they seem like they were all we're so dumb
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it had been 10 times well because they all did you have a Do you have an on camera light Do you need one you want for Sunday
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yeah it could be good like you know what I use my iPhone I of course literally just held up above
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the 87 S is quite good because it's so fucking good it's nice because because I seven S is just going to increase all the light right yeah yeah well you say yes there so it might be super like fucking Calif like you get these crazy colors and shit like that that actually might be a good solution just having a fucking on I've been thinking about that where it's like because you know we get into this realm where we're like fucking doing this real estate tomato Griffey I fucking sick see shit but to make events and stuff look good Class A little bit of law so they often off I was I was literally doing that the other day on that Lulu lemon shirt I had to the two people
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two people from the client which is holding their iPhones up like above like with the lights on and that was like a nun's like just to go back and change completely the look of the person that looks pretty good
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what's happening for your long weekend I'm about to head off to loan right if you chocolate eggs drink a few beers
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yeah stay the not I used to go to lawn and from probably age of 14 every news Eve what sort of what area Do you go you like a trailer park now not like staying in the am the million dollar houses
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friends grandparents? Amazing that's what you know I've got a couple of friends that have houses up there right and so what yeah we're lucky we've got a friend's grandparent on this beautiful property they've had in their family for fucking here in Santa Fe they're not just us family holiday
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so I took a got the drone are gratified by yesterday got charged up problem is when we fucking have an easy drone ages turn on and there's all these updates you have to do
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and they're all going to stop you from doing anything probably because now they've got all the restrictions but you'll be guarantee you won't be the only drone there that's what I've been at when I was in wi be fucking flying and all of a sudden especially if you're near a fucking caravan park every caravan park has some fun come with a drone and as soon as I he was there you go back to dr rice but it get a fucking that's funny oh god What do you got paid full price
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I want to take it to the full full I am first can fall yeah
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I think you should be fine just obviously my all of those areas have the holly fucking pads and shit. But you mean you
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just hit the shot man
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and it's fucking small. It's a maverick. It's not like I'm a big
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big drone see this
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is imagine if I was worrying about constantly like just don't fly it over about group of people or cars where it can fall and kill somebody flight over the water it will it will fall into the water and you've lost the dry yeah that's true but I take it for a bit of a fly so you back
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your backs and Sunday Saturday Sunday
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Sunday so we're back Monday yes strong yeah I'm excited Easter Easter Monday yeah we
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could All right everyone
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good long weekend if you're in Australia yeah
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and what what do they do? He says the same fucking thing everywhere right? Yes yes it should be I don't know about um. I was eating bolter a few years ago for Easter and they're a big Christian Catholic any be on the exit so I think they do the whole fucking this religious they do it like that. I even think about chocolate. I do like the color and you know like the paint the dying and egg. Yeah, I've done that. Yeah. Which I'm just fine. But I think because actually but I want chocolate. Exactly. It's like flu as well. Now I remember actually had they had the paint up but a Kit Kat Oh, good. Good shit. But it is the daily talk show everyone
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fact I've just every time I looked at the time now, just to give back. I'm like thinking of him to be cutting. It was nearly 30 minutes. So it's being okay. But send us an email. I feel like we should ask a question of the audience. Okay.
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What's a topic that you'd like to hear us to scout? Actually, you know what, let's, let's use the last couple of minutes to talk about a question that we got from Michelle on the email Hyatt with a talk show calm. Yeah, fame. Okay. This is something this this came through
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a couple of days ago. But I am I think because we're both sharing the inbox when I open you can't you don't notice it goes yeah,
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what does she do? We go here
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we go. So fame. She says, here's a subject for you. What would you do for fame? And if you got it? How do you think it would change your lives? Note that I said fame not money. She's linked out a few things. She's linked with couple of articles. Some baby say. Have you open the new stuff now? Let's let's uh. Let's just look at the the surface of the question. Yes, here we go. So
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what would you do for fun? What would I do for fun? What do you mean by that? Yeah,
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I know. Well, I'll give it a crack at the answer. I think well gee, for fame ease, do the work that I do. So I would like I'm not interested in fame. I don't need to be the guy at the fucking who jumps on the tennis court. Remember? There was that fucking so dude who jumped in front of cars at grandpre jumped at it was like a serial past you know Vitaly is no fatalities I can be big YouTuber. Yeah,
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he has like strikes a couple of times straight to the World Cup in Brazil. He strict at some other event doesn't fucking not interested in that Fame at all. No. As a prankster, though,
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I used to want to be famous. Easy. Nice. Nice ego. Yeah. But it was soon very much realized that you need something to be famous at. I like to ask the question, What do you actually think about this yesterday? And what do you want to be famous for? Not in the terms of only
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stuff? What do you want to be known for? What do you want it to? It's a it's a brand question. Yeah,
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for me, creativity, like my ideas. I want to be famous. And I say that is like a loose term. I want to be famous. I want to be known. If people think about me, I'd love to be known. That's that guy that has those really interesting ideas. Yeah, and he and execution through video. Yeah, says I, you know, and I feel like I've done some of it, have some ideas that have resonated, but on a big scale would be great to, you know, be known for the person that has great ideas. Yeah, I think for me,
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it's about I'd love to be known for the person who inspires others to look beyond the status quo. So I'd love to through the content that I make, get people questioning their current situation. And because there is so much content, there's fracking, you know, married at first sight. There's all these reality shows, and TV and films which are promoting the status quo. Just fucking sit on your couch, like do your job. Come home, sit on the couch, consume this trash media eight food and do it again tomorrow. And then you know what, you can feel so shit about it all. Because you're not fucking moving. And you're not sort of stretching yourself that the advertisement during you know those shows are going to sell you on the things that are gonna make you feel better. The fucking The, the slim is the fucking dream is all that all that shit, right? Yeah. And so what I would like to be known for is for looking beyond that, asking questions and standing out. And that's been the, it's fucking hard because I think that our world is set up in this in this way, where we naturally look at what other people are doing. And that's what like, that's been my pushback on YouTube has been like, what am I bringing to this? What am I actually doing? And I think that the daily talks, I do feel like I'm doing that because I'm not I'm I don't feel like I'm just trying to fucking copy something that's already out there. I think that we are actually trying to create something that's a little bit different or
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Yeah, so I think that that's, that's in relation to Michelle's question, I opened one of our links a fucking bloke some entities head into a microwave a prankster they called him so I get it it's like what what links we go to the chief time and in in response to that, I think it's it has to align like I don't have a craving to do some dumb praying for the sake of a prank. But if something is
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well if it has connection to that what do I want to be known for famous for its ideas? And so Obi for one is a silly thing that got me some notoriety and in some space I got the fucking shoot were on yesterday said Yeah. Are you the guy yeah. Fuck didn't even back and get paid for it. But an idea that I had Yeah, that I told you about you know, like, Good idea. And then I execute and you say great idea. fucking funny that traveled right yeah,
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it's so that small micro scale. So I don't know I don't want to. I don't want to make people look stupid. I don't want to offend people for the sake of it. It's like this fame finance these hundred different ways to get there. There's 100 different ways to make money. We could fucking make money today by going on the straight and fucking selling people on things or making calls to the elderly and saying hey, we'll do this thing for you in regards to you know, and make money that way and it wouldn't be aligned with our values and it's the exact same thing with the fine there are a dozen ways to be famous and there's a dozen ways to make money you know hundreds of ways thousands of ways and you have to be careful the way you might define because that's what people know you for right yeah
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it says what's his name Jesse 10 million subscriber youtuber yeah I don't know him as the prank guy you know as the bad guy
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yeah, he's whole fucking channel was prank of a prank or whatever. That was literally what it
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and so now he's you know, he's identity is aligned with that. And that's happened so many times where it's like, even a friend of mine who you know, had some success in the early 2000 Australian TV. He's known for that thing. And he's gone on and done all of this other stuff and people will still same in the street and say, Hi, I know you from that show. And so um, I don't see I say these things almost like startup land. I'm sure I've spoken about this before on the podcast because I'm constantly reminding myself of it is invested. One of the things that they don't necessarily like saying is hockey stick growth. And it's this thing of you know, Pinterest was hockey stick growth it is this it's normally based on a trend or a time it's like come back in What's that? What's the app that that was hot for very very right even periscope there is a good example yet Periscope and Meerkat another one they said they have fucking this they go big at SXSW Twitter was one that actually you know do pretty well out of it. But yeah these things that have these big spikes of success what happens with these big spikes as success is what comes up normally comes down and it comes at the sort of this or that fact in Einstein you know like what is that goes lore of hacking something and I think you are
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yeah yeah yeah well who do I say he someone say recently you you if you if you fail fast like you have success fast you'll fail fast you're more likely to fail fast This is the same principle that was a guy from
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Katmandu I'm sorry about that. He they his company was scaling too fast. Yeah, and they started having a whole bunch of stuff and he just fucking pulled it back. Yeah.
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And just he's like, we're having too much growth, we need less growth. Yeah, to keep this is a company that will be around 100 years time. And the thing is a fact failing fast is a tried and true technique which people use but it's a different scale right which is
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fail fast every day which is just basically fail fast is another way of saying execute every day yeah because every yeah because every single time you execute you are going to inevitably file because and especially if you're doing things that that aren't already out there yeah so um yeah and so I
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think Yeah, fail fast can be the opposite also. Yeah,
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it will come tumbling fail fast fail forward. There's always fucking bounces. Yeah.
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The thing is, candidates never built a business has come up with it's literally just make things do things move forward, I think is the way of doing it. And spending too much time being fear theoretical about it is a is a danger but also realizing that it's the it's that deep work that fact that book deep work is so good. I've been posted about last night. Yeah, I've been listening to it again, it's just this idea. The reason it came I was watching it and talking about trash shows goggle box and they Yeah, they go What I like about Google box is it's a bit of psychology because you get to see all these different people reacting to what's out there on TV shows snippets of shows and shows people sitting on couches commentating and basically and
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they
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they had the the lighty the chicken 20 seven years old who was like fucking hanging out with the chimps Did you say this documentary fucking amazing it's like it's the the longest study ever done on like an animal and she basically embedded herself with them and like learn to all about them fracking fascinating stuff. And everyone on goggle box was like, man, I just feel like so inadequate like look at what she's done. And it made me think and reflect on deep work he's someone who
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they found all it like a hundreds of hours of footage of like this is from like, yonks ago, maybe the 70s or something like that.
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Maybe even earlier,
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her in Africa doing all this stuff. Amazing shit, and the value what people are actually valuing. And I don't think people are recognizing it is fucking head down doing shit. It's not like, she's not fucking posting, she wasn't like putting out fucking daily can't like daily blogs, like, obviously different time. Yeah, but she just put her head down. And there is I think that that is going to be the area which is going to have the highest value, which is long form deep work versus this daily shit. Because the daily stuff is going to be easy, really easily can consume. Think about it this way, processing something in a lab, you know, creative processing food really quickly, versus planting a seed and growing real food. which one has the most amount of nutrition and value. And if we're just using time as the scale and by just saying quick is good, just keep putting it out. Well,
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I think also what a way to explain it for me, makes sense in my head is like what I've been doing the last couple of years, actually getting good at making videos actually understanding how to make videos, how to color grade, how to shoot, how to expose, right lighting, and all that shit. And not being not trying to jump a few steps. Yeah,
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slow instead, like, like, they read something in slow and steady. Um, so if you're trying to do the thing that you actually can't do, which is five steps away from you. And you need to do step 1234. And then five, if you're looking at like a step by step process, people are trying to jump steps and start at a place where they're not really meant to be starting. And the chances of them actually succeeding spy starting there is not won't work. And it's because it's the democratization of the platforms of the equipment. And what I mean by that is, it's like, think about radio, right? Think about what you had to do to be on radio. And there were these steps you went through, there was the fucking with the talent pipeline, all the shit where it's like you said, start small. You do these regional stuff, you do the fact and sausage sizzles in the all of that stuff, you know, to be able to work your way up to Metro. Yeah. And what we're in now is a world where it's like, you can have the exact same platform that everyone else has, you can, you can start a podcast and call yourself a podcaster without having any experience and you can be on a reality show and go from being on a reality show, to having a Metro Radio show where you're being paid a lot of coin. And the thing is that you're missing all of this fan growth, and you'll do it in a different way. But there's definitely something to be said of, it's the it's like, Ricky device. Ricky device became fucking successful. At what for him
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and his poor, he'd fuck all money.
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Yes. And the thing is, that would have had, you know, the success he's had, would have been able to speak about the things and the friction in life if he'd just been fucking successful at 21 now,
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but then it's like, it's shifting, the accepting where you are, is based around everything else. Maybe it's not the right time for you to be where you actually want to be. Like, where I am now. I think about two years ago, my headspace I was not here. I could not be here. My head wasn't here. Yeah. And we're all been five years time. I can't even fathom that yet. And so the patients in going, I need to let this unravel and do the work down and then do the work because that ship will change that she will come, right. And the other thing too, is, it's, I think what's hard as humans is, it's, we don't, when we in it, we don't see it. It's like,
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you know, every single day, you know, we're in our bodies every single day. It's the same feeling that when you look at yourself three years ago, and you're like a fact look at it, how different I look to there. And we don't feel it. Because every single the small change the small shifts over a long period of time happen. And because we're, we're there, right, it's like, fucking imagine looking at a river and just constantly say, the change is happening. So gradually in over the entire area that you don't notice in the right hand side, a tree has grown, right, because there's so much else going on. And so I think that that happens in life constantly. Words, you
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don't notice the growth. I I mentioned it to you this way. I feel like this week for me, just a few little things that happened. I feel like I'm understanding who I really am. And not not, I can't even really a particular but it's like, I know that sticking to this start a style like in especially around storytelling and being me and shit. And and I guess
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it's like the example of my mate. I showed him a video that I was trying to do. And it was a real different style. And he's like, not, he's like, yeah, it's okay. But I want to see you want to see use of getting excited and telling me about it. And I was like, and it just sort of connected a few dots for me about how I do it. And what he was actually saying was my most preferred, most comfortable form of storytelling, which he was saying he liked. And so I kind of was like, Fuck, just starting to understand sort of where, to where to where to go. Yeah. And then when you watch other people doing their thing, it's like people who are successful I just really good at fucking knowing and playing to their strengths. And,
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and experiment. I think the thing is that you experiment, you take 1% expect you go you go 70% the other way. And then realized, actually, I only needed 3%. So there's a parking ticket. And, and so that's the thing. That process is still tweaking, and it's still in forming. Yeah,
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and it is that it is that gradual growth, which I think is it's hard because it's less rewarding. It's less, it doesn't give you that fucking instant gratification is hard to like, receiving feedback on something. Yeah,
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your work who you are as a person, it's fully fucking difficult to handle at times. And I and I feel it like I think I'm quite good with showing people things and getting feedback and stuff but I fucking feel like the the, the heat coming into my body Yeah, and feeling a bit tingly and like fucking a know what I have to do now because you've said something that I fucking new yeah but it's like that's how you challenge and change and grow right by hearing these things you don't really want to hear
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and it's it's being able to gain perspective and the other thing too I think is it's like who you are yesterday isn't necessarily who you are today and if we are if we are a product of the experiences that we have we can expect that Tommy three years ago is the Tommy that that we say today and I think that that's probably one of the things that we do as people we we assume that people shouldn't change them we we think that hang on this back and person said that they were this and they were you know it's like that Jesse from YouTube who's like you know audiences side know you You're the prank guy you are this you know you are this person I know Katy Perry talks about how she believes that you your age stops that when you become famous so she was you know famous sort of young and she feels like she's still that age you sort of become cemented and sealed and then that's what people sort of expect of you Macaulay Culkin still thinks he's in high Milan hip well fact maybe
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maybe there is you know i some sort of truth to that in the sense of, if we look at you know where people who piccoli where they end up not just he I mean he was famously bit Michael Jackson yeah he was a key these whole life because the fucking dirty header yeah
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Wonderland had a you know a theme park and he's house yeah and a monkey exactly so I still need own studies to date work I can but he was misunderstood this dude he was just doing great work in the same
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market it is
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it's all it's all stuff to to think about. And to move on about but be Mac that last fucking 20 minutes was the head
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