#897 – Stopping Coffee/
- October 29, 2020
We chat about what Tommy is doing for Halloween, what happened with Josh’s ball trimmer, stopping coffee for 30 days, and espressos and cappuccino in Italy.
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show, we discuss:
- Josh’s ball trimmer
- Bodhi and screen time
- Cutting coffee
- Naysan’s wedding DJ
- Pizza in Italy
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Josh Janssen: [00:00:00] it's the daily talk show episode 897.
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:08] Well, how do he's happen and growing. So let's get one on how are we today?
Josh Janssen: [00:00:12] A very good it is a Thursday. Is that right? It's Thursday. Today.
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:17] Yeah. 28th, I think 28th or no, 29th, 29th. Isn't it. It's creeping up. I mean, um, The backend of it's a big end of the month, isn't it?
I mean, just in the calendar. Yes. You've got, you've got Halloween, which falls on Saturday. You've got sepsis birthday, which falls on Sunday the first. So that's at the start of the month and you've got celebrating episode 900 of this show, which as we know Seth guidance. Absolutely. You know, annoyed that he didn't get this.
Josh Janssen: [00:00:52] You go check out the chat with Seth from yesterday the year. So this time last year we were, we were, um, I think we must've been doing episode 500.
Tommy Jackett: [00:01:02] Oh,
Josh Janssen: [00:01:03] yay. Cause it was on, was it on a Thursday night? It w it was midweek. It was huge. That was Tuesday night.
Tommy Jackett: [00:01:10] So last year. Yeah, it was a Tuesday night and then we flew out to LA on the Thursday.
I'm pretty sure.
Josh Janssen: [00:01:16] Yeah. Wow. And then we had, um,
Tommy Jackett: [00:01:18] you're gonna be ahead. Halloween had Halloween, um, this Halloween, I don't know where it's coming from, but my three-year-old son has an obsession with Halloween. Like it's, it is bizarre. Like we're not at, you know, we're not at a Halloween family necessarily. Um, but he's just obsessed.
Pumpkin's bones like spiderwebs, what he's already picked out what we're going as, um, for Halloween it's w we're doing a full dress up on Saturday.
Josh Janssen: [00:01:52] Has it got something to do? Like I've noticed in general. I feel like the advertising has been leaning on Halloween, like, um, uh, w w w what brand, uh, Cadbury, they were doing some sort of special thing where it's like, you could build a, a house and then you can put cobwebs on it.
Okay. Tommy's currently leaving his desk. If he doesn't have chocolate in the house, I'll do it
Tommy Jackett: [00:02:15] grabbing this. This is, um, this is like the Wooly's catalog. Look at it, completely Halloween film. And, um, even like, On kids, uh, chips, like those healthy, messy monkeys, they call them. They're like, I've got a Halloween packet with spiders all over them.
Josh Janssen: [00:02:33] And so what's I plan. Can you trick or treat.
Tommy Jackett: [00:02:37] Well, we know some neighbors and so I don't feel comfortable going up to randos doors, especially cause there's a lot of elderly that live in this neighborhood. There are some families, so I think that would appreciate it. I want, and the house is a house that's completely decked out.
It is. I put it on Instastories. I'll put it on. The daily talk show in stir this morning, it is absolutely tricked out. Like Bodhi made us go there for some pre training and we just had a look at it and we took his own little sort of carry thing of lollies. And so, yeah, we've got, we've already organized to rock up and knock on the door of a neighbor of our old.
You know, next door neighbor had crime.
Josh Janssen: [00:03:14] One, one suggestion I was thinking is you could get a bunch of your mates and tell them, Hey, we're going to drive past and we could just throw candy. Like I could just stand on the balcony and throw candy at you. You guys,
Tommy Jackett: [00:03:28] I mean you for four or five stories out by the time, you know, If it starts traveling, I'll be fine.
Funny little. He hit his head at 40 Ks, little jolly rancher knocks him out.
Josh Janssen: [00:03:41] Um, and so what do you think it is? Is it the, um, is it the fact that he gets lollies?
Tommy Jackett: [00:03:46] I think it's, it's the perfect combo of Hmm. Ooh. He, he loves spooky stuff, spiders, like he, you know, he's scared. He's a little bit scared of them, but it's, it's like even on, um, in books and cartoons and, you know, in pepper pig.
And then you've got all the branding. When you go to the supermarket, you're seeing it all. But I don't know. Some kids would probably not, you know, give a shit. They're just like, nah. I want to watch the footie or I want to play in the park or with my dolls, whatever. It's um, it's weird. Anyway, we're getting around it.
I'm going as a vampire. Um,
Josh Janssen: [00:04:20] uh, have you got some blood capsules?
Tommy Jackett: [00:04:23] Do you remember them? Yay. Yeah. Absolute mess. Yeah. You have some annoying, uh, yeah. Yeah. Um, I was going to, I'm thinking about just like, because. You have to still wear masks in Melbourne. I was thinking about wearing my mask and then putting like fangs, like making it look that's clever on the mask.
Like I've got my mouth open with fangs, um, rather than actually getting the teeth and actually trying to mold them and all that shit.
Josh Janssen: [00:04:54] Uh couldn't. She'd have to put like hot water and do sort of the mouth, that mouth guard thing. Yeah. Um, are you going to watch any Halloween films?
Tommy Jackett: [00:05:03] What are they.
Josh Janssen: [00:05:05] That'd behaves if you looked on Buzzfeed, but they'd also be specials from the Simpsons, like all of those.
Tommy Jackett: [00:05:14] Yeah. Yeah. Nah, nah, it's a bit ahead of him. Like, Oh yeah. Pepper pig have done it. Pepper pig, Halloween special 2018. So that will be in rotation. Yeah. Great. Now. Good idea, JJ.
Josh Janssen: [00:05:30] Uh, I, uh, I had happened yesterday. Once you get your thoughts on it. So, uh, uh, we've got a sponsor manscaped that's I think starting next week.
And, uh, they do like this very Primo ball tremor. Yeah. That's what they, that's how they describe it. Right. It's the lawn mower 3.0 anyway, I, uh, Uh, Bree was making a ruckus outside my office, like my home office. And, um, she said, uh, your trim is on. And somehow the bead or the, the bowl trimmer had turned, I called it, it turned on.
Uh, and so. It wouldn't have been that much of a problem, but there was also, um, because of the lockdown easings and stuff. Bree's boss was over for a, um, for a meeting at our apartment. Yeah. And, um, so anyway, I sort of dealt with it. I just like, I'm like, ah, that's that's strange or whatever, turned it off.
Went back. I was in, uh, uh, in my own meeting on that FaceTime. And then all of a sudden it did it again and I couldn't react. And so anyway, I just left it Embry, fixed it. I came out half an hour later and my ball tremor is plugged in. To the USB port of breeze boss's laptop
is I think it just needed a charge, but there was just something absurd about it. I was like, I don't know if I really, I don't even know if I brushed it. I think it's still one thing is probably just still got Pew. It was just standing there. It looks beautiful, beautiful design. I mean, the boss's gone
Tommy Jackett: [00:07:25] the hair on his face.
Doesn't match up to this hair
Josh Janssen: [00:07:27] is now on my keyboard. What is going on here? Oh my God. I mean, I feel like this is going to happen. Maybe working from home. We just all have to be comfortable with everything. Oh yeah.
Tommy Jackett: [00:07:41] So what was the result? I mean, you'd like to lean in and give too much information. Did you do that?
Josh Janssen: [00:07:45] Yeah. Yeah. I picked it up and I showed the light. Do a live rate. You can use the
Tommy Jackett: [00:07:50] coupon code daily talk to get,
Josh Janssen: [00:07:52] no, we actually started talking about the ball toner, which I've been using it. I mean I've used it. I haven't got to, you got the Watts. You've got, I'm actually just using the boat. It's like a spray.
What's that? What's our primary code. We should, we should tell people. Cause if you actually,
Tommy Jackett: [00:08:09] daily, daily
Josh Janssen: [00:08:10] talk. If you go to manscape to where a man scapes a website, what is their website? Do you even know
Tommy Jackett: [00:08:16] manscaped.com?
Josh Janssen: [00:08:18] Yeah. So they're shipping to Australia. This is a new thing, but it's very Primo, but they have a light on it.
And, um, so I did yeah. Show it showed the light and, but it was just one of those moments where I just leaned into it. Um, but then
Tommy Jackett: [00:08:33] the toner is you've sent, sent the boss off for, you know,
Josh Janssen: [00:08:37] a trial right before you buy well, the, the, the, um, yeah, the, the toner is great though. It's like a spray it's uh, yeah, I would, I would highly, highly recommend it.
Tommy Jackett: [00:08:51] Did you work out wireless, turning on? No, I reckon it has to do with, um, you may have like left it on and you put it onto the charger. Onto the charger.
Josh Janssen: [00:09:01] Now I had it. I didn't have it on, on the charger yet, so I'm not sure exactly what it was
Tommy Jackett: [00:09:06] so funny. I did Google it.
Josh Janssen: [00:09:08] I couldn't find anything, so yeah.
Tommy Jackett: [00:09:10] Oh, 20% off.
Plus free shipping with the code daily talk, ed manscaped.com. I didn't want to stuff that up. We would have, you know, whip would have got us.
Josh Janssen: [00:09:20] Um, so what else is happening? Do you feel like you were with your home office? Is it just ridiculousness like, like this, I guess like we were on a call and Bodie was asking for his nappy to be undone or whatever meet Cole is.
Yeah. They're just outrageous things that have been happening like that.
Tommy Jackett: [00:09:41] Well, I mean, yeah, yesterday we had Seth on, so, I mean, when we saw Seth two years ago, he told, I asked him a question on episode one 90 around. Um, devices and children, but he was quite young then, but you know, the, the addiction was starting with him and him and the iPhone or him on the computer screen.
Uh, we didn't have a TV back then. And Seth's, uh, Seth was adamant that you should not. I mean, he, he prefaced with, I don't like being the guy that is giving advice on this stuff, but if you're asking me. My thought is not to give kids any screen time because it's inevitable. It's not to say don't ever do it.
It's like when you can control it. Control it. And so, um, when you have Seth Godin on it's about controlling the kid and so going against this concept, I can't control it anymore. So I had to give him my F uh, Amy's phone, or I think it was my phone. Somehow he thinks my phone is the right device to watch monster trucks.
Amy's isn't Amy's but that's because he's just. Yeah, well, it's his personal algorithm thinking my phone is the right one. Um, but no, you may be right. The ha the, um, U2 one, he's got it all dialed in. And so we had to give it to him yesterday morning, which was preventing him from coming out and harassing me and putting me in a hair worked.
Josh Janssen: [00:11:05] What would happen for a whole day if you gave him. At for a whole day, what do you think would happen?
Tommy Jackett: [00:11:11] I think you'd get bored of it. There has been times he gets bored of watching stuff and then starts playing with his trucks. Yeah. And so, yeah, I mean, but after it, you see the repercussion, which was, you know, Taking it off him and it just losing his mind.
And then you say, you know, out here, you're trying to take off a nappy, you know, midway throw it. It's all happening. I mean, one thing Seth mentioned yesterday was, well, I brought it up with him cause I heard, he mentioned it a couple of years ago, which was. He hasn't had a nap since 1980 something, 1984 or something like that.
Although if there's a guy that's made a rule about not napping at Seth garden and he stuck to it, it's, it's pretty phenomenal. Like, if so,
Josh Janssen: [00:12:02] how often are you having naps? I think I could forego naps.
Tommy Jackett: [00:12:07] Um, well, when your weekend, when you're in an office or yeah, I mean, this is it's like, it seemed like it was pretty straightforward.
Just no naps blanket, no nap, unless you're sick, which you're napping. And so, I mean, at that point, like, I might close my eyes for 15 minutes and it makes me feel better, but for some reason, but MIS his point is that you're hiding at that point. It's the easiest tool in the book procrastinate program for Cresta nation.
It's either napping or masturbation, very, very, uh, huge escapism tools. Would you agree?
Josh Janssen: [00:12:45] Yes.
Tommy Jackett: [00:12:46] Yeah, I'm thinking actually now I'm doing it next month. I want to enforce something that's uh, like a blanket. No, we
Josh Janssen: [00:12:55] can cry. What is it?
Tommy Jackett: [00:12:57] Coffee.
Josh Janssen: [00:12:59] I think you can say ranking. Oh no, no. It's gonna say freeing up 30 hours in a month.
Tommy Jackett: [00:13:07] a 10 down weep on Monday morning.
Josh Janssen: [00:13:10] You still attend them.
Tommy Jackett: [00:13:14] Like that's great
Josh Janssen: [00:13:15] audio. There was actually, there was actually, yeah, that you can't joke about that any more. There was the guy from, I think, NPR who lost his job for wanking on zoom. Which is not good. I
Tommy Jackett: [00:13:27] don't know
Josh Janssen: [00:13:28] why. I think he thought that it was off, but like what, what, what's the, like, obviously there's gotta be a rush, a rush about it or something, but just the, the, the Russian someone saying Wang, cutis, don't sit.
Like, what is that accessing?
Tommy Jackett: [00:13:47] My
Josh Janssen: [00:13:47] embarrassment views, severe, severe embarrassment. Is that, um,
Tommy Jackett: [00:13:52] I mean, yeah, I mean that fact, I mean, you're going into territory of like people exposing themselves in public and that being something that then turns them on hand. I don't understand for the life of me how that could be.
Josh Janssen: [00:14:06] I don't know if it was at NPR. I want to make sure that I get it right. Um,
Tommy Jackett: [00:14:10] we're doing a Joe Rogan fact checking Alex, John,
Josh Janssen: [00:14:15] uh, yeah, man. It's so it's so common. Cause I just typed in NPR masturbating and that didn't bring it up. But then I typed in zoom masturbating meeting.
Tommy Jackett: [00:14:29] Um,
Josh Janssen: [00:14:30] Life hacker did an article on October 20 called Houghton, not masturbate during the zoom call.
Tommy Jackett: [00:14:40] We're at that point where we need to have how not to
Josh Janssen: [00:14:43] yeah.
Tommy Jackett: [00:14:44] How not?
Josh Janssen: [00:14:45] I pro profile the West journo busted masturbating on zoom call. Is this the one? Let me just, I know this is another, so it's a real thing. Isn't it?
Tommy Jackett: [00:14:58] Are we talking, computer's still open and they're looking at another tab and I didn't really, Oh, here we go.
Josh Janssen: [00:15:06] Staff. What is he for? The new Yorker has suspended a star. So not NPR. Retract retract. Yeah, no. Or Yorker has suspended staff writer, Jeffrey Toubin after he was caught, masturbating on a zoom call with his colleagues, Turbin said he didn't realize the camera was still on when he exposed himself and began jerking off while all of his coworkers were still actively engaged in a work meeting.
Oh God. Yeah. To two people who were on the call told vice that the call was supposed to be a reenactment of an upcoming election and election simulation, whatever that means, uh, with many other prominent reporters playing various roles. Uh, colleagues confirmed that at one point it appeared that Tuben may have been on another zoom call, but no, he was just randomly exposing himself and touching his penis, you know, as you do in the middle of a Workday, um, Oh
Tommy Jackett: [00:16:05] God.
No is, there's definitely a few. I wonder if like, The pandemic causing people to go, you know, having to use zoom for everything, working from home. It's like, I wonder if he's the guy that would have said I would never expose myself in public. I thought about doing it, but I just know. But then the difference in being at home and you're comfortable and all these other things are at play, not to excuse his fucking behavior.
Josh Janssen: [00:16:31] bid. Right? Think about this. Like how many times are you seeing a video you're on a video chat and you can see someone's bed. Uh, behind them. And so it's like, it's quite, it's not like maybe intimate is not the right word, but it is like, that's where they sleep. That's where like all the stuff happens
Tommy Jackett: [00:16:48] or all this stuff doesn't happen.
Yeah. That's sad for them.
Josh Janssen: [00:16:53] Um,
Tommy Jackett: [00:16:54] but yeah. Anyway, yeah. It's stopping coffee. Um, caffeine. I was thinking if you, if Josh, I said to you every morning, take this pill and it will give you anxiety. What'd you take it?
Josh Janssen: [00:17:09] Um, no,
Tommy Jackett: [00:17:13] but the pill tastes like fucking strawberry. Josh. He loves strawberry flavor.
Josh Janssen: [00:17:18] Do you think that, um, yeah, I understand what you're saying.
And so do you feel, do you feel the, um, do you feel that it gives you anxiety?
Tommy Jackett: [00:17:26] Well, It is, if you were to, I think anxiety, you relate to when things are going bad, right? You're like, that is the result of being worried about something or, you know, a situation where you're experiencing that. That's not what I'm saying.
Um, th th th the form of anxiety is just that on edge. The same visceral internal feeling of in you in your chest that, you know, tight chest or you're just gasping a little bit, or your heart races a bit more like there's a response internally. And so
Josh Janssen: [00:18:07] you get that with you because the thing is I don't get that with all coffee.
I only get that with. Uh, like black coffee, like, like, yeah, if it's like from the Moccamaster or even like a long black potentially. But if I have a cappuccino, I haven't said cappuccino in a while.
Tommy Jackett: [00:18:27] Have you ever ordered one recently
Josh Janssen: [00:18:28] now? I think bridges says arm and cap still haven't. Can I be, I still haven't sorted out my attaching my Apple pay.
So I went out for a walk with Pete Sheppard and he bought the coffee. So I've, I'm yet to buy a coffee in, in months.
Tommy Jackett: [00:18:47] Okay.
Josh Janssen: [00:18:48] And so, anyway, so you feel anxious even when you're having a cappuccino,
Tommy Jackett: [00:18:55] I would never drink a cappuccino. So
Josh Janssen: [00:18:57] what about Nina?
Tommy Jackett: [00:19:00] They don't that's. That is a monster. If you're drinking cappuccinos in Italy, you're a fucking monster.
Italy's the home of short blacks macchiatos. Like they would be thinking,
Josh Janssen: [00:19:15] I'm pretty sure
Tommy Jackett: [00:19:16] that the bastardized,
Josh Janssen: [00:19:18] I don't know if that's correct. When we were in, when we were in Italy, that was the, like, you wouldn't do a latte.
Tommy Jackett: [00:19:25] Well, I'm not saying latte. No, no, no. I'm saying, I'm saying when I was in Italy, I was drinking short blacks, macchiatos, um, long blacks.
Like I was drinking black coffee. It's the way it was meant to be. You not consumed over there. That's all I'm saying because they serve them.
Josh Janssen: [00:19:43] No, but I don't think it's, but I don't also think that it's some sort of overseas weirdness.
Tommy Jackett: [00:19:50] I wonder if they'd turned their nose up at a cap cappuccino?
Josh Janssen: [00:19:53] No, I don't think so.
If you're a
Tommy Jackett: [00:19:57] frequented traditionally,
Josh Janssen: [00:19:59] so they don't offer that you can't order it after 11 or that's what they say really, but, um,
Tommy Jackett: [00:20:07] I've put a time cap on it. History of it's problematic. If I put any time on a
Josh Janssen: [00:20:11] chance for a cappuccino was a type of coffee drink. I'll look, I'm going to have to work this out, but I don't think that it's as
Tommy Jackett: [00:20:17] talking Italian.
If you're referencing Italy. I don't think cappuccino comes to mind easily. Really? I don't think so whatsoever. I think it's long black short black macchiato. Um, you know, all that sort of variation of black coffee, you think about standing at a. Standing at a bar coffee, sipping a little sipping, a little macchiato.
Josh Janssen: [00:20:40] I don't. I know you're saying macchiato nicely, but I spent a month there, like yeah. A year ago.
Tommy Jackett: [00:20:45] Yeah. But no, but that's the thing. I, I drank lattes in Italy, but I'm just a Bogan from Australia asking for a
Josh Janssen: [00:20:50] fucking car. I don't think I stand by. I don't like being called a Bogan. I don't think that that was a Bogan move.
Tommy Jackett: [00:20:59] If your,
Josh Janssen: [00:21:01] can we find this, that we need, I need this as a, I need to sort this out now. I'm not going to, we can't just, just let the NPR thing. We can't just have it slide.
Tommy Jackett: [00:21:09] We need
Josh Janssen: [00:21:09] some sort of,
Tommy Jackett: [00:21:10] we need somebody who do we in the, to, or lives in, or has lived in Italy and. It's uh, I'm talking the people who live there, I'm pretty sure the Milky ones.
Josh Janssen: [00:21:26] Do you know, who do you know who we could call her Nissan? Who? Uh, he was married to an Italian. He got he's wedding was in Italy. So what
Tommy Jackett: [00:21:36] are we trying to work at? All I'm saying is, so I'm saying,
Josh Janssen: [00:21:39] you're saying it is Bogan. To have, have a capita or cappuccino. Isn't really the quintessential Italian things.
Tommy Jackett: [00:21:48] When you think of coffee in Italy, you don't think capture. That's what I'm saying. When you think of coffee in Italy, you think short Mack, you know, long black macchiato.
Josh Janssen: [00:21:58] I flee answers.
Tommy Jackett: [00:22:02] Is he on the gold coast?
Josh Janssen: [00:22:04] Yes. Yeah. Oh, good. I met you're on the daily talk show. Uh, is this like you? Okay. You're all good.
Tommy Jackett: [00:22:14] Hi. Nice. Love you, buddy.
Josh Janssen: [00:22:16] Yeah, Tom, Tommy's also here a question for you. We'll just, we'll just debating. And, um, it was a
Tommy Jackett: [00:22:25] question. That question when you think,
Josh Janssen: [00:22:27] Oh yeah. When you think cappuccino.
Tommy Jackett: [00:22:30] Nah,
Josh Janssen: [00:22:31] no, no, no. That okay. No. So when we think of, when you think about Italy and cappuccinos, is that something because you were, you were married to an Italian, you had a wedding in Italy.
Is cappuccino something that Italians will drink or do you think it's a foreigner type thing that when foreigners come, they drink it being honest. What do you think.
Naysan Naraqi: [00:22:54] No Italians drink it, but they mostly drink espresso.
Tommy Jackett: [00:23:00] So that's what I said. I was saying, when you think coffee, you need to leave. What are you, what do you say?
Naysan Naraqi: [00:23:06] I think that's
Josh Janssen: [00:23:08] okay. Well, so this is the thing. It's not that bad, but may, so it's not like a Nissan. It's not like, uh, when you come in, you ask a Melbourne cafe for a pump of. Uh, what do you ask for pump of caramel or whatever in your, um, in your coffee?
Naysan Naraqi: [00:23:28] I did that on purpose,
Josh Janssen: [00:23:31] but yet they know they're not going to roll their eyes at you.
If you order a cappuccino.
Naysan Naraqi: [00:23:36] No, but you never Italy. Nobody uses the term latte. Like here you say, I get a lot to love. It just means milk,
Tommy Jackett: [00:23:48] milk.
Naysan Naraqi: [00:23:51] And then if you ask for a coffee with after 10:00 AM or 10:30 AM it's black.
Josh Janssen: [00:23:59] I mean,
Naysan Naraqi: [00:24:00] like they will say probably I've had. Like it was, let's say 11:00 AM. And I really wanted a copy with notes and they've rolled their eyes that my wife had to explain to them. It's not from here. They dragged their feet to the fridge, which was just behind them.
Hold out the mail. Sure that chief held over their shoulder and discuss and gave me some,
Josh Janssen: [00:24:29] can you add to my nice and can you quickly tell us the, um, uh, the story of your wedding, DJ,
Naysan Naraqi: [00:24:43] the DJ wanted more money? Like as soon as the wedding started. They wanted more money. And he was just like, we're like, no, like, what are you talking about? Like the webbing is underway, everything was agreed. And he just got so pissed at me that he just stood. I mean, the music was pumping and he just put like, kind of to the side of the DJ Sam with his arms folded and his head in the air.
And. And annoyance. And so I ended up jumping in and each bank, my own wedding. I honestly wants to knock his life
and literally sit there the whole night with his arms.
Tommy Jackett: [00:25:32] Are you, was this DJ precious?
Josh Janssen: [00:25:35] TJ precious is my alter ego at Nissan. Yeah.
that's good. Thanks. Nice. Any, anything else? Anything, anything else to report?
Naysan Naraqi: [00:25:50] No, no, no. Yeah. Good to hear your voices.
Tommy Jackett: [00:25:54] One other thing, you're an American citizen. Uh, can you vote while you're living overseas? Like how, how, how do you go about that?
Naysan Naraqi: [00:26:01] You can, yep. I unfortunately have not loaded them getting stuff in on time, so I haven't heard it this year.
Tommy Jackett: [00:26:11] Well, there's still time to vote for, um, mr. Kanye West he's uh, he's. You can vote for Kanye West.
Naysan Naraqi: [00:26:19] That's right. No, but I can vote. I vote in Australia though. I'm a permanent resident in Australia, but you have to vote in Australia.
Josh Janssen: [00:26:33] All right, guys. All right. Thanks for helping us with that and have a good one, mate. Thanks buddy. Bye.
Tommy Jackett: [00:26:38] Yeah, there you go. So I think
Josh Janssen: [00:26:40] this is the thing we both end up backing down to the point where neither of us are wrong or right.
Tommy Jackett: [00:26:46] Well, I didn't, I never thought you were completely wrong. I just think if they've still got a rule of like, why do they have that rule after 10?
Like, what's that?
Josh Janssen: [00:26:53] And we, we looked into this, so it was the, um, because, uh, dairy products don't really like, um, like the digestive system. Doesn't work great in the afternoon. So the idea is to do it earlier so that you can digest it throughout the day factor onto
Tommy Jackett: [00:27:11] it. They're onto it. I mean, that's what they do have to digest is the amount of pizza they're consuming and pasta.
So I get it, I get
Josh Janssen: [00:27:18] it every single day. It was a good life. And see, that's the thing. That's not Bogan either, right? Like
Tommy Jackett: [00:27:24] all these like, well, Italians pizza, Italian equals pizza. The Italian flavor is a pizza. Is it not.
Josh Janssen: [00:27:32] I don't know if it
Tommy Jackett: [00:27:33] is no, they do. They do square pizzas over in Italy. Remember that, like they do slice it by the slice.
I mean, this is
Josh Janssen: [00:27:40] by the slice.
Tommy Jackett: [00:27:41] Oh, there was a few places in Rome I went to, but we do tend to look at the evolution like it. If, if coffee in Italy sort of. If it's originating, like they're sort of the masters of it in some respects at its base level. And then it sort of starts evolving. And in Australia we're doing the best lattes or cappuccino.
Like the quality of it is awesome, but you're right. The wait, where are we? It was, does a cappuccino give you that same feeling? I think it's just coffee. I'm going, I'm going to try, um, the point is caffeine that's, what's giving the response. Sure. And so it's like, how do you limit. The amount of caffeine because the coffee is a huge hit of it.
And so it's just interesting. It's just a little test for a month. Just a test for a month of, um, of no caffeine coming from a shot of coffee, or like, um, even batch batch brew or French press or instant, it makes it a
Josh Janssen: [00:28:40] self-development thing. Where do you get the cause you. You sort of have your months where it's like this month, it's going to all, you know, stopping alcohol completely.
What is, what's the catalyst?
Tommy Jackett: [00:28:52] Well, just, uh, um, self-reflection understanding what it's doing and usually you have it in, you can, you're consumed by it and not, um, observing it. And so you just. In a state. And so if you can recognize that the, that, that state is being brought on by something, then how about trying the opposite of that?
If you can, if that is the controllable, I mean, that's the thing, control your controllables. If that is a way to restrict, that's what I'm trying to do. It's like, how do you know.
Josh Janssen: [00:29:31] If you're pulling out every, I think that makes a lot of sense. Yeah.
Tommy Jackett: [00:29:34] And
Josh Janssen: [00:29:35] it's like elimination, you need to eliminate things and then sit with it.
See how it feels. Are you going to have any tea or anything like that?
Tommy Jackett: [00:29:41] Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. The problem is I can't be a fucking pain in the ass with a headache and shit. Like that's had no caffeine. I don't get a buzz from having a cup of tea. Um,
Josh Janssen: [00:29:52] the headaches from not having. Coffee. I
Tommy Jackett: [00:29:54] haven't done it.
I don't know. I haven't done it in long enough.
Josh Janssen: [00:29:56] What would it look like? Maybe not do teat. Like yeah, I have a week of, yeah. Just, you know, water and stuff.
Tommy Jackett: [00:30:03] Well, that's, there's a there's some month, nothing but water. It's something like, uh, an actual everything, but water. Nope. Everything about water.com, but no, there's like a, you know, everything's got a fucking month, November.
I mean, it's, it's all for some it's for some charitable cause, which is great, but yeah. Uh, it's nothing but water, but then, I mean, does your fizzy water that you have feed into
Josh Janssen: [00:30:28] it? Like count
Tommy Jackett: [00:30:29] it? I think it's like anything added to water is the no go. So you could probably have just your fizzy water, but, um, but yeah, I mean, that's the thing, maybe it works.
Maybe you do it and you like, Seth is a guy that doesn't. Like I've heard him say, he's not drinking. He doesn't drink alcohol. Like there's a bunch of stuff that he's understood about himself, which takes a bit of, yeah. I mean, look, look at all that there are different ways of, you know, it's easier not to do those things.
It's easier not to nap. It's easier to nap. Sorry. It's easier to do those things. So, um, anyway, that's one thing it's not a crazy, I
Josh Janssen: [00:31:07] also just had like nostalgia, I think about it. Isn't it weird. Like the time I said, I was like a year ago I was in Italy. It was like fucking two and a bit years ago. Isn't it crazy how much time's flying?
Tommy Jackett: [00:31:20] That rap
Josh Janssen: [00:31:21] episode 900 on, on Sunday at our three year anniversary of the show on the 16th of January, that's that's coming up episode 1000 is in the following month in fair. The fed there's a lot. There's a lot going on.
Tommy Jackett: [00:31:35] Yeah. Starting an ear fresh, but I mean, we're a couple of months off.
It's eight weeks until the end of the year.
Josh Janssen: [00:31:43] That's ridiculous.
Tommy Jackett: [00:31:44] That's crazy. That's crazy. I mean, how long, how long till
Josh Janssen: [00:31:50] six weeks, if it was eight
Tommy Jackett: [00:31:52] or nine day day was 57 days. It's not 57 days took Chrissy
Josh Janssen: [00:31:57] and it's been our biggest month of downloads this month. So thank you, Greg. Thanks for listening. If you do enjoy the show, leave a review on Apple podcasts or the other great thing to do is, is to share it.
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Tommy Jackett: [00:32:14] Um, do a bit of admin tomorrow on tomorrow's fat Friday show. So if you want to send through an email yeah. We'll, we'll read it out. Give you a bit of shout out. Hi at the daily talk show daily talk, show.com.
Josh Janssen: [00:32:25] It doesn't work with, say that.
I tried to say it. I tried to say in sync, but very
Tommy Jackett: [00:32:29] Can we do it again? Three, two, one. Hi,
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Tommy Jackett: [00:32:36] That's very difficult. Nearly. Got it.
Josh Janssen: [00:32:37] All right. Catch you guys have a good one.
Tommy Jackett: [00:32:39] See you