#832 – Extremes, Asteroids & Magic/
- August 25, 2020
We chat about the 2018 VP1 asteroid, vaccines and extreme emotions, people asking questions that can be Googled, and David Blaine and his upcoming project, Ascension.
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show, we discuss:
- 2018 VP1
- The Queen and the state of emergency
- Vaccines and extremes
- Questions that can be Googled
- David Blaine and Ascension
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132 what's happening guys? What's going on? How are we? Let's get
you across the 2018 Vp 128 eight,
right? I can't remember what happened last week to be honest, let alone It
was something the 2018 Vp one
Well, it's not from the 2018
maybe maybe it started
but it's okay it's it's not across it sounds like you're not either I
don't know much. No but I would there was a news calm today you article that was you might have seen it said NASA predicts asteroid will make contact with Earth on the eve of the US election. Did you see this? I did. I did. And I immediately jump in like probably most people do to see if the world's gonna end then. And they're just kind of brushing it over. We got the Don't worry about it. But I didn't I didn't get too much details. Like I feel like there were slightly brushing over because I didn't really know. It give me the one over.
Well, the because I caught myself yesterday while speaking to people, I guess spoke to Jess the fun is it to hear about the asteroid? Really just just loving it as a as a fun fact because it feels like a very 2020 thing.
Yeah, well, I think it's an American story too. So we're just gathering that. Well, it seems like it's a, you know, NASA American
And I feel like if it was really going to impact Australia, it's, it'd be in the news or Daniel Andrews is just front and centre. So you can't you know, it's nothing other than Coronavirus here in Victoria.
I wonder how much they know about the accuracy of where it's going to hit. But I was I did a bit of a deep dive this morning. I say deep dive actually read an article
yet which runs from top to bottom.
Not that deep. But I read the, you know, a few sentences in between. So this read the headline is definitely I read a longer headline. Okay daily Mail's headlines are essentially like full body text like that I think well about 100 words in their headlines.
You're totally right. And then they are banking on no one rating the rest of it because it's just sort of saying the same thing seven ways,
though, so I was looking it up. So the 2018 Vp one has a 0.41% chance of crossing paths with Earth on November 2, and entering the atmosphere. This is we heard this, it was in the news calm today. You are cool, but the thing is, it's like point four One, unlike man, and I know it seems small, but Frank like It seems like if it's going to potentially in the world, it's the odds are still you know, it's still significant, right?
Of course, of course. I mean, there's probably a less chance of winning tattslotto. But people still went when tattslotto Yeah,
yeah. That's how it works. But anyway, the so on the verge there were saying even if it did heat, no one would be in danger. The asteroid is a measly two metres or 6.5 feet across, making slightly smaller than a compact smart car. If it did hit our atmosphere, it would completely disintegrate up above us, and pose no threat to anyone below.
Yep. Okay. So they're just there's just some, I guess they have to report on it if they've spotted her.
NASA dude. NASA Yes, sir. Oh my god. You don't have
it. I mean, there's so I mean, are we happy or sad about that? I mean I'm paying my bills. I was just gonna say this. So you have to win.
Yeah, no, I think that's a win. There's a lot of crazy shit going on in the world like right now there is people at Buckingham Palace at the gates chanting paedophile paedophile like think about that the royal family like that if that doesn't fucking mention mention a bunch of people at you at your parents place Josh at the front yelling that like how would feel for the family itself? And you guys have been fine. I wouldn't.
I wouldn't go over that.
Just another reason not to
visit to be honest parents Yeah.
But I cannot believe that like this year is fucking crazy and then and then in Victoria, you've got like
crazy bit though the fact that people chanting it or the fact that he that there's a prince that's a paedophile.
Just just the whole thing this the royal family tied up with I mean, humans do fucked up shit. And he's been the royal family of just humans. But you think, you know, they've always been trying to, you know, sort of shield their reputation and make, you know, the, the queen. It's like that whole monarchy in the, you know, the sort of pointless office and and then this happens it's like you can see how it could push the royal family into sort of like in the future what the Royals look like over in England and what that all means because it's ordered by the Royals not at all I mean, I mean I'm fascinated by it. I'm fascinated by that sort of, I don't even understand it. Like the Queen's amazing. She seems amazing. But I mean, she seems amazing like just how long she's been the Queen has she has she? How long she's lived. I didn't notice that because I saw Dan Andrews did it Is it too late? I think for us like congratulations to my son that's made it to 18. I guess I've always found that congratulations for birthdays interesting. Well, I think is a good one. It's a significant that you're sort of an adult now. I don't know. I mean, hit the spotlights on that guy. He's getting a lot of hate at the moment. Did you see that? Um, they've yesterday they announced in Victoria, that on the 13th of September, they're going to extend the state of emergency another 12 months.
Yes. So, I mean, the thing is, I get the The problem with this stuff is I just don't understand enough. I think most people don't understand. So it's like, we didn't even know what a state of emergency yeah meant. Like, and we still don't fuck it. Like we're doing what we're told at the moment we don't really understand. And so I guess you end up having a lot of people who Yeah, where I land with it is it's like there's heaps of noisy people saying that Coronavirus is, uh, you know, fake news or whatever. And so then any noisiness so people who are really full on about like, now this is like, this is a dictatorship and all that sort of thing. I take it with a grain of salt. But what do you know, you probably know more than what I do.
Well, well, all it all it took was just like reading probably as much as you read of articles to find out the basics of what it means and why he's doing it. But then you see the reaction, like you said, and it was probably from the people that this morning I was just down the road down the road of the coffee shop, and there's a sign that sort of is keeping people 1.5 metres distance on a bit park bench. And so there's like, say it's a three seater, and in the middle, there's a sign and so you have to sit at the side of the sun, and on the sign someone had used the black texture and written lies and like I'm assuming that the people who are coming out and there's a few people sort of worrying about this. It's people who think it's a lie. And then there's people who are suffering from mental health. That's it. The thought of an extended lockdown makes them panic, which I understand. But from reading the article, all it means is they still have powers probably, you know, a triggering word right now, they still have powers to enforce things like masks, social distancing, workplace COVID plans, things like if someone gets covert, they have to isolate. And so outside if there's not the state of emergency in place, it means that they don't have any rights to say to people who are sick, don't go out. If you go out you're gonna be fine. And so they can't bring that legal side into it. So I mean, it seems pretty basic, but it is interesting thinking about like they still we like I'm I've been wearing the mask. That you. You purchase, JJ for the business, the ones from braises dad. Yeah, and I look like a plasterer. I look like a plasterer. smoko. Getting a coffee, but I'm safe, but I am as they have extended it and they aren't saying when masks are stopping, it's probably not gonna be within this year in Victoria. So it's gonna stay Hessian. Oh Ma'am, I am going, I am going to get on with a pin. I want to get some kind of gronk mask, I might get a print on it. I have been doing something. I've forgotten my mask a few times when I go out with Bodie. But here's the trick. If you've got a jumper and a T shirt on, all you have to do is take off your take like take your arms out of the sleeves of your T shirt, and then put your arms back into the slavery jumper and you use your T shirt and it works perfectly right. But um, but I want to buy designer one. But in terms of that sort of. You see that the headlines that are triggering people. And I it makes sense because it's tough times. Like I found myself getting frustrated yesterday. Just I get frustrated yes yesterday like it's hard with a kid having them just watch television or try you just see the see how different their life is. But I can easily get caught up in feeling like it's it's changing their world, but they won't not like he doesn't know my three year old son won't. This isn't gonna impact him for the rest of his life. It's like, he's safe. He's happy. He will but it's I'm
not sure why that is. I think it could be in a positive way too. Right? Like it's we've I think that we've had a good stretch of nothing really bad happening. And all these things is like grit and resilience and things that will help him in the future.
Of course, one question for you JJ. is if when the The vaccine comes out. Will you take it? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Have you because I think that I mean, it's easier.
I mean, I don't know. But it's I mean, it's like, thanks a lot of sense. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. I mean, I was just looking at like, the pre like other vaccines that have been rolled out, like when not the first, we think about like smallpox, tetanus, these are all vaccines that were introduced polio. And so they ended up like using vaccine to eradicate some viruses where they end up not needing to vaccine, vaccinate anyone moving forward. And so it like this has been happening. For generations, people needing to take vaccines. And the problem is that they if they don't get enough people vaccinating in the first round, it can not work like it the virus mutates like it they need a sort of heat it where it kills enough For the virus,
it seems like there's a lot like the thing that I think that I land on with this stuff is there's a lot of uninformed or maybe not even uninformed, maybe just selfish people that like that. It's also very short sighted as well. Like I think most people that have problems I understand like you hear. I definitely empathise with, you know, there was a guy I saw in a news article where he'd filmed I think, I don't know where he was maybe using dandenong or something but he's, he's like, yelling at the police and saying, you know, he's lost his job and you guys are scum and all this sort of stuff. It's like you can you can see where someone that that's not able to do the personal work that they need to do to get through these hard times, land on conspiracies, extremism of all forms, I think that what we're seeing at the moment is huge. amounts of extremism in what way? In across so nothing can just be so it can't be. Let's, you know, let's let's do what we're being asked to do or Let's follow these guidelines. It's all it always has to lead to conspiracies or our right to being taken away. I could just it feels pretty short sighted. And I think that maybe part of it is me being in my apartment. It's like, I know, like, I realised that I'm in a privileged position because I don't really have many stresses at home. Like it's, it's pretty good. And so I think that that's where it gets hard is if if someone hasn't got their home life in order or they're not in a situation where they can then obviously when you reflect and you look at your life, it's confronting and that's where I get it. But that's where like extremism in regards to any form happens. It's like people feeling sort of disenfranchised by everything and then saying, Okay, I'm going like, what? Trying to find purpose? I wouldn't be surprised if extremism in every form goes up because people are isolated and trying to find shit to do and so whether that's Islamic terrorism stuff or it's fucking 5g conspiracy thing like I feel like that's
I mean the or extreme like fitness or you know, they're just very focused in a specific area can be positive. I mean, there will be a bunch of negative stuff but you see how, like, you having to think differently, you having to experience like, if this is something I've never experienced with Bodhi, just being home and having to be with him. All the time and you know me being home and so there's and so you can see the pressures that has but i mean it's it's tough for pessimistic people at this point like there's a in all these situations have silver linings or at least positive potential positive outcomes for relationships and you know a connection with the people in your family but then it sucks you know, I think about the people who are who live alone You know, it's and that's tough like that that is tough and so because as we know the stuff we want, you know, you could want community you could want friendship, you could all these things require effort and sometimes if you're in a bit of a Frump, which is understandable, you just fucking feel shit. It's it's hard to act on the things that you know, you even want, you want to connect with your mates, but you can't be fact and so because you feeling shit And so
again, What is that? What's the other option, I think is where I landed, it's like, Okay, so, so if this was 12 months, two years, three years, four years, like our life could, it could change forever. But it safe it was four years or three years of radical change, that we're having to make two then go back to something that looks like a normal existence where you're travelling, and doing all of that sort of stuff like that. Like, what else are we gonna do? Like, I think that that's the way like, it's like, I'm sure there'll be a lot of interesting studies that come out of this around, you know, psychology and social studies and how we sort of deal with this sort of stuff. But I mean, we have an abundance of information. And so now, you can, if you don't want to wear a mask, you can go into Google right now and type in reasons I shouldn't wear a mask. And you can go down a rabbit hole for an hour and read all of these and be convinced by the end that the last thing you're going to do is wear a mask. And so, yeah, I think that that's part of the problem.
Well, these these things, I mean, this these restrictions are pretty unique at this moment, but they've happened in the past, like not in our lifetime or our parents lifetime. But the differences now, like you said, the information we have the, the, the difference in the humans that are walking the earth based on all the input that we have, like, we're the same, but we're also different. Like he can just think about how different it was at a time with no smartphones. And to now, you know, like, I wonder we're smarter when we're dumber, because we have more information we can I can search up something if I need to know the answer of it right now. That's one thing that pisses me off people that asked questions When you could just go live, to be honest, that's, we're in this day and age, if you have a question. Some people send me questions sometimes I'm like, what sort of questions? For real? For real?
all I'm gonna do is Google it. You've just
outsourced you're googling, if you're outsourcing, googling, you're fucking lost.
Is the let me Google that for you. You know about that. So if you know. So if you Google, let me Google that for you. There's a website. I used to use it many years ago, but it's a you type in what they need to Google search. And it gives you a link and then give it to them. And it opens out, it opens up an animation where it has Google and it types in the question and it clicks Google and it gives them the results.
Can you please tell me something you want me to Google? So I've just gone into LMG tF y.com. Let me Google that for you. Calm What about reasons, two reasons to not wear a mask or reasons to not wear a hat up there,
Okay, so then you'll get a link,
and I write shut up research will get link get linked, get that link, and then right
open a new tab or you can select it to me if you like. But you can also open it so you get to see the codes. Here we
go. So I've just put it back in. And now it's going google.com little animation. reason not to wear a mask. Google search. It's a is it meant to be like a bit out? It's passive aggressive. Yeah, it's like, hey,
what time is this? It's like, Oh, yeah, here. Here's the link and it goes through and they can see it like it's, I think it's perfect. That's what it is. Exactly. How
did I not know about this? Yeah, I wonder
who's who's created that site?
I don't know. It's, it's very old. It's like over 10 years old. Arkan.
God, are you so you can do it for a bunch of others. Let me let me being that for you. I really well, it's just good old days that have been taught like a search, including
the may ask James Yeah, is there is this the other interesting stuff with all this is like, I don't feel that negative at the mic. Like, I don't feel like I'm not really in the new cycle stuff. Like I'm not like entering into things, but they have maids and like, just general conversations where I think that we end up with this like, common energy as a community that he's like, a little bit negative, because everyone like anyone that is negative or isn't doing sort of the personal work to to work through their issues are then communicating it to fucking 10 other people and then that expands and that expands and so
I get to be honest, like all the all the mask stuff for all these things, I think like they're not even it's not even on my mind. I'm literally just I'm gone a bit hermit, but it's fucking, I'm enjoying it. You don't need to be thinking about it all that like a note like I've definitely. When was the last time you watched a press conference with Dan Andrews or only snippets bit specific stuff like I've got no interest about the numbers as I've seen it go down as grade. But I don't need to watch like, I remember the early days that experience of sitting I could imagine it's the similar vibe to the wartime where people were waiting for announcements from places instead those that vibe of we need to know this because there's like even just the fact that the state is putting on some sort of press conference to do the reveal. And then hearing scomo his voice doing a Australian announcement like that kind of shit. I remember back at the start of this had that vibe where I was like, a keen interest to listen, but now I can't be fact. It's designed
to stop the other parties. That what's happened now is that gronk 's who are in no position to make big decisions from a leadership or community perspective, like not like just like absolutely no experience in it, all of a sudden he's getting sort of insight or they're getting sort of a peek behind the curtains in the decisions are made, but they don't have the critical thinking or the understanding around these types of things to actually absorb what's happening. And so they just fucking push back so hard. Like, yeah, it mean it's not like it, I guess we're we're just not used to or majority people aren't used to ambiguity. And so there Yeah, like I'm always I'm always surprised. I think I've there's probably a lot of the times that those feelings that people are having, literally, just that, and there's not much we can do about it. There's the goal. Florida conspiracy theorist taxi driver in Florida didn't believe in you know, he thought it was a hoax that it was connected to the 5g stuff his wife died from coke like they both got COVID and then she fuckin died and now so he's on Facebook going hey guys got that one wrong knowing that he has a dead wife because of it. But going on to something a little bit lighter. Yeah, David had the David Blaine.
Oh my I haven't been this into magic for since I was 10. Yeah, I got a magic set. There was this store in the city. What's a cold? There's a route there's a there's a famous magic store in the day
I would have got once got one sick couldn't really do anything. But I've been into it. I've been interested in magic and David Blaine is Oh, he's done magic in front of the world's most famous people that the presidents and you know everyone ate a wineglass. In front of Jeff Bezos, so he's
done a lot of
he's like I should have probably worn eye protection.
Like he literally said Jeff Can I have your wine glass and then skulls half of his wine all the rest of his wine and then takes a chunk of his fucking glass I think
isn't at that point. It's like it's a funny thing because it's that moves towards just having a bit of a maniac in your your party at that point.
Yeah, he's an absolute cook and I love it. Because he actually he was jumping on glass. That was a real glass and he jumps it you can eat glass. Yeah, that's the thing. There's a there's a guy that was eating cigarettes doesn't he wasn't Yeah, doesn't really fucking should. He dumped that guy died from eating too many cigarettes. In fact, maybe
you thought of smoking cigarettes. He's made that the you know so. On August 31. ascension is happening. You Across this
What's this? I don't know what a cent ascension is.
So ascension is the special that's happening with David Blaine and YouTube where he's going up. You know, with balloons like up like that, like the movie where you're like helium balloons. Yeah. And so on August 31 pending there's no crazy weather stuff. David blind will be going up in the air with balloons and he then has the parachute in the balloons that he will then pulled down with like some string, put the parachute on and then parachute down. It's pretty ridiculous. And they string the whole thing.
It's fucking crazy because he's, it's like the you know, picture in your mind. You give a little kid a whole bunch of helium balloons and then the kid somehow just starts floating away. He that's what he's trying to do. He's trying to float away with These balloons but if one pops he said that he'll it could come down and he doesn't have the parachute on yet.
Well, that's what he like really loves to talk about. Why it's super dangerous. Well, I think like he gets he gets, like he I think that that's the magic of It's like he put an icepick through his arm on Joe Rogan's podcast. And the funny thing was, it's like, clearly Joe didn't want to do it. And Joe was only doing it because Tyler was like, Man, you want to do want to do it. You want to? You want to do it. But he was saying it's like, it's this weird thing where Joe's like, I don't know if I want to it's like, it's like come on is like our bets really dangerous. If you hit this fucking blood vessel, it could do that. It's like, I don't have to do that. Yeah.
It's a it's a comedian who has he said, because I've seen him do that same set. On other shows. He's done the pig through the hand, which is the same is same trick. It's um, yeah, I mean, it is interesting. I said, it's like, I miss it. We were messaging back and forth. And I said, there's also you know, like he's the most famous magician at the moment. There's also a bunch of magicians that people will probably call losers like it. You know, they're a bit all they're a bit out there. They're not losers, but they're just quirks that are into something that they haven't been able to turn into something like he has. And so it automatically gets categorised in a different category based on there's no success behind it. So it's like, think about all the, you know, the the gipsies in Europe that are trying to con people by doing magic.
Like a magician, have you
seen? I think it's Margot Robbie. It's not who have you seen him do magic on her? Yeah, that's not a euphemism actually made like he didn't matter. But yeah, that was really Nicolas that would like, and like the whole it's what I really respect from it. He He's, I think that there's a bunch of like nerdy kids who will pick up magic because what he associated, it's like, He's the God like, he's the guy when he's in a room. Everyone's like, I couldn't surrounding him. He's got all of the attention he'll be. I'm sure if you think about it, what did kids say they want to do now? In 2020, like a YouTuber. Yeah, they want to be a YouTuber, right? Also Tick Tock and probably Tick Tock and they're
really maybe the young kids. Maybe it's usually
less of a job than a YouTube ad.
Well, there's some rich Tiktok kids is the fame. It's the thing that connect, no one's saying I want to be a Hollywood movie star anymore. Like that's not
it at all. I don't kids, I'm not devaluing people who are doing comedy. You're doing clever stuff. What I take sort of what I pushed Back on is the idea that you are this single platform person because if you look at it like there's been a bunch of platforms that have come and gone What was the what was Twitter's video? One they bought subscriptions now. Vine vine. Yeah. Right, like a bunch of mine, like the people who weren't vine stars, but were actually like, just stars. They were just talented, went on and created really successful YouTube channels and loganholme Yeah. And so, but what I wonder, is if you think about the YouTube audience, and then you think about, just the time that we're at, like, 2020 we have time we time. Imagine being a kid. And because it's gonna be live streaming for a few hours, I said like, it's gonna it's gonna take a while to do everything. But he's got the videos of him, planning it all in preparation here to get his fucking hot air. balloon licence to be able to do this, but so imagine being a kid and watching this wacky guy, David wind do this thing. Like it's going to inspire. Maybe, maybe like Casey Neistat inspired vlogging. Maybe we'll see a bunch of YouTube magicians.
Yeah, I'm sure. I mean, this is I mean, if you don't know who will bring you inspiration until you see it, right. Yeah. And so that's the weird thing about humans, that we don't know what we like until all of a sudden you've experienced something like oh my god, like score, and then you and then you don't choose it necessarily, you know. And that's the weird thing about life like, I mean, that's what gets into the, the thought about freewill and dependency being I mean, this is the conversation around free will not being what we think it is, or it's not being in existence. So, me deciding to move which finger I didn't decide even though I thought and throw attention towards it. But even in life, it's like, well, it's interesting like you being the guy that's really into certain areas. So audio, it's like, all your past experience. Like, that's just you as the little quirky dude you are that just somehow, like, evolved, and me going the direction I have and the things I'm into. It's like, I can't explain that. Right. And so that's hard when you and that's why when you want people to be into the shit that you're into, it's very hard because why are you into what you're into? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know, just does something to me. It's weird. And so that's when I think the comparison thing is very dangerous because you can easily look to someone else's success and feel the comparison but the reality is that you didn't choose stuff you're into.
Yeah, you didn't choose where you
just choose your fucking parents. You didn't choose anything. You can think you chose what you got for dinner. But then did you choose that you're into Mexican? No, you didn't you just you're into Mexico. You're into the flavours, you're into the flavours of a Jimmy idea was
was it just early? Like is it that point is that environment is that sort of? Because I was eating Mexican at such a young age, like Mexican? You have families that are like, yeah, Chinese restaurant families like they're gonna go go somewhere they're going to Chinese like for, for my family. It was like we're going to Mexican. But then definitely, then there's then there's the thing like my brother James lives in North Carolina now. And we My family has gone to the US so many times and it's like, maybe there's something in that because the food we like are going to have delicious Mexican food and all that sort of shit.
Well, it's Bodie and I we love going skateboard. He loves sort of going fast and doing jumps it like, to be honest, I didn't choose that for him. Because there was a, there's a chance that he wouldn't have enjoyed any of that shit.
So he's got out of it. So he's a thing. So you created an environment though, where he could test that there's probably heaps of kids who would be fucking going down some dirt jump or whatever. But the family might be a little bit more sort of conservative with with what they get them to do. So
if he loses out on all these other things that he might be truly aligned with because I thought you could say, exactly, and he Daddy Knows
what six times six, stare 36 it's very good
six, six. Is that right? You asked me the easiest one. I know like one, Shawn. Thanks, but but it is just when you do sort of look at your existence, like you haven't chosen a bunch of these things. And that's what they say you don't have power to make choices to guide you in a in the right direction, but you could be doing a bunch of stuff just because it's how you've, you know, it's just you've ended up there. Well,
so there is that whole thing we've spoken about this recently, it's like control your controllables. I wonder, the thing that I don't know, yet I'm not clear on is the people, the outrageousness, the people who are like, yeah, this is a dictatorship and like I want to go out like, maybe we need that. So maybe there needs to be a certain level of the population who are misbehaving doing all of this sort of stuff to then make us all but maybe misbehaving is the wrong word, pushing back on what government's doing, so that then it forces a level of clarity. I can't be fact with it. I don't think it's like, for me, it doesn't seem necessary. It seems like I don't think when you see the arguments you don't see really great arguments around these things. Maybe one is around you could say, okay, protect the vulnerable or that like but, but these are like the heartbeat is the information, ideas, all of this isn't static, it's constantly moving. And so but what everyone wants, and this is the same with kancil culture, it's like everyone wants everything to remain the exact same way. That's why people like pissed off that they, their lives have changed to what it used to be. bit like like look at the who the you know, the World Health Organisation stuff. They weren't like, really promoting wearing masks much at all. Like for the longest time we thought it was a surface, sort of a virus that spread through surfaces will I can clean like we were, you know, wiping up our fucking Uber Eats bags and putting like, I mean, I haven't washed my hands in seven weeks.
We've been we have been having no breaks. Yeah, I'm just quickly KFC have dropped the finger licking chicken. And I've dropped that for the next little while of foreseeable future. They don't know when he'll be back. But there's no more finger licking chicken. I mean, we got Doritos yesterday and Bodie put his hand out to me and said, Daddy, lick my fingers. I think
you've lost the plot. You've lost the plot. That's too much. It's what you say to him.
I said, No, that's disgusting. We can't do that made. We can't do that. And what did he say? He licked it. Just put them straight in the zone, man. That's your problem.
I mean, I it's good. Like I think that
I think zarnas I know it seems dying. And like it's in a privileged position to be here being like, it's not that bad. And obviously, like mental health has such a big part in all of this too. So it's like, I'm having a good day. So I might, like, I think that part of it is I'm wary of, can almost like emulate the mood around you. So you see other people being a certain way. And then it's like, yeah, that whole like misery loves company, and you just like, I can, this is bullshit. And that's why all these things a bit. I mean, I'm not. I think that there is this middle ground, where it's like, I don't like hate people that don't like all that, like the non masking. I sort of, I think that it's a bit dumb. But I sort of I understand that everyone's on a different journey. The frustrating thing is that it's, it's going to affect other people and it's going to affect people's livelihoods and all that sort of thing, but it's like, I don't know. I think like just taking off the intensity of it all. He's helpful. Does that make sense?
Yeah. I mean, the unique journey.
It's a unique journey. Do you
think there's anything like me being a hermit or whatever? Am I? Do you have any criticism of that? Or do you think that that's triggering for people saying, like, being disengaged in the process?
Oh, yeah. But I can understand that the the view would be like, you're not considering all the this, this and this and so it's, you're, you're informed in your own way and they're informed in their own way. But I'm
not saying I know every like, that's the whole thing. It's like the only know his version of it's a version of a sentence.
taking a stance and so that's all I'm saying. Though. just point out that what you're saying is the stance you're choosing not to engage and looking at fucking research, right? Yeah. You fucking ever read Twitter?
Did I get it right? And do your own research.
It's a bit of that.
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