- February 2, 2019
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show we’re joined by our mate Gemma Watts. Gemma is a Melbourne based copywriter, podcaster and content creator.
A nostalgic Fat Fridays snack surprise
A bug in Josh’s code
The problem with psychologists
Thinking before you speak
The illusions of social media
Keeping up with pop culture
Get Hairy February
Gemma’s ambitious New Year Resolutions
Crossing the lines with pranks
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It's a daily talk show and it's fat Friday's episode. Episode 274. I guess Gemma watts joins us she's back and so does the bag full of fat Friday traits. I
don't know why I'm nervous. Nice. The Daily talk show tote bag because
we we the reason you're nervous is because we talked it up so much
did a lot. What do I have to do to get one of these bags?
The Daily talk show one. This one. It's just on the side. Yeah,
it's fine conspiracy. Jimmy put another sticker on the bus.
We've got many. What episode were you on? Yeah,
it was a while ago, too. Oh, I'm missing it sevens all over and he said he's got recall of an elephant. I don't know if elephants have good records. But man,
elephants never forget this. Don't you know this?
is still going fuck Josh Janssen.
I think it's similar to the humps. And the camels might be? No no, they smart. Okay,
this really upset about that camel thing because my mom has a fridge magnet that says something to the tune of. I don't trust camels or anything else that can go for a week without a drink. And I was like, we need to remove them.
Because maybe they can go away with not drinking for a long period of time, but they just don't have water. This feral ones in the desert. And so how the fuck are they surviving? They have every every go. I mean, that's a superpower. I've just got these big humps. Right. I'm just gonna move this. So we've gotten to paint the picture. If you're listening in audio, we've got cheapest sparkling water that you can buy.
Yes, it's good. 75 cents it's
Should we open? No. No pain? No say so we can't say where it's
drinking the man of bottles because we're bargains and you're a self confessed bargain time. Okay, I'm just gonna these traits that we got for fat Fridays. All right.
Oh my god. Yes. This was the only reason I used to go and watch Chris play basketball. So I
was a big it like,
sporting the Swim Club. Absolutely. And like I've already got one open. I started just before you jumped? Well, we can just quickly get through the snacks that we got because we just went Jim and I have one of these. Now while we look at the other I'm not in charge of you. Why haven't we had any of these this week because we were saving them for fat Fridays and you jumped the gun. And so what we've got today, because we've eaten before this but these are all special is it LSTMs quick thing? I used to have these in school lunch box. Mr. 97 you're 19 do you even remember Do you know what these are? He does never had them. He's family so healthy. But basically they rice bubbles fused together with marshmallows. He's one thing that this was like the only packet that still had the future together with marshmallow all of the rest are yogurt. Well that's just you
I feel sick of hearing that
anyway so they got those who said this was George George we got Dunker ruse bro. These are you say I think how old are you 2626 it's no excuse but I haven't either Mr. 97 doesn't know what these are what about oh we should have found Ovaltine ease might
do that now I'm gonna be upset
yeah you've quite possibly chosen the one out of
alright we got a bunch of stuff here and the Cheetos the bowl cheese and bacon the cheese and bacon both done a very good job. Yeah The problem with things though is you will get very r&g fingers Yeah.
before you got here on
And so up for people who don't know Gemma has a podcast as a copywriter specializes in beauty
Yeah, I'll take that. I never know how to describe my job. I just let other people do it. That's it sounds like
letting people talk for you is always like promote you is always the most powerful way of doing it right. That's why not Yeah,
I mean, not lazy.
It's easier but it's also a lot more powerful. I agree with him as opposed to just take over. We've all got clinc also got clinkers another one the 19 year old in the room didn't know what really Oh, he's also from New Zealand. I'm not sure if they've got them either.
He's been here since he was a lack of vintage snack.
Well, they're pretty vintage you get them to the movies and they've got the colored inside and so you bite into them guess which one
in my head I'm 19 I'm like yeah
if you guys can guess what this is?
Yes the color it'll be pink
okay Josh so this is so big was Cadbury always the brand of dynamite just had them okay, and I was never you never a brand guys. Akita you you just fucked up I'm just wondering.
I must be a must be can break. Okay, I think it's me grain.
So I'm just gonna have one bit say my instincts are ridiculous because of my upbringing. Like that's one thing I could feel it out. I think it's gonna be pink.
If you can get three for three
Yeah, what I don't know.
That's also pink.
No hat trick and the last bit of banter around the food because we know food chat we've been going for five minutes from the city I go These are from San Diego, bro. Thank you so much.
Did you nice I'm they came in the mail and it surprised I didn't melt It's amazing. Why them and send them to me while I'm having one. But don't let me tell you how to number The thing is you say that but then you get really cross. So Gemma, you can have one.
And so what is the oh my god? Yeah, they're real good. So these are what are they called? Can you pronounce it?
just say in that time, hopefully it works out for the rules.
That work break holds them free Olds but that is
it's like alpha like the alpha Mio and then alpha. j o r e s. Santiago. If you can let us know. Can you just send us like a audio file of you saying the name and I'll put it into the system. It's good that you weren't expecting the caramel way. It's real good.
It's powdery. It's like it's got like a skinny powdery sort of
you described them as giant wagon. So that's what I had in my head. They look like
so twice a year and maybe this is the day you know
what I cry?
The opposite of most of the women that I've met in my life.
What? What gets you like? What will get you I guess it's quite dark all the time. z when you cry.
Just when shit happens. Like my friends. My friend got dumped. I cried for her. Okay.
I will say the first that's I don't know if that warrants a cry. And all the times if you select is
it's because she was like, she was like, What can I do to deserve this? And then I got upset because I was like, Okay, well if you think that you did something wrong, and I'm doing a bad job as a friend so I maybe I'm just a selfish cry. So you cried about yourself?
a second time. What's another one? For life? If you ran at the year, we're looking at 2018. First one was the dumping. Second run was
probably just like stopping a tie.
Last night. Ah.
So the body is obsessed with trains and tracks at the moment. And the end of the week. And you can tell it's the end of week in our house. Like if you took a photo of our house at the end of the week, and just told someone guess the day you'd know that it's towards the end of the week because everything gets done on Saturday or something. Well, I think just life grabbed you by the scrotum.
It doesn't do that to me. Yeah, no, I mean for some ladies at home which one? Yeah,
but at the end of the week is like the house is so fucking messy. Sometimes depends if we've got our shit together. But we're in a week where it's messy. And buddies toys are all over the joint last night you have a child
last night the train. He had a train just parked.
No, it was a bus. It was an English fucking double decker bus
parked in the middle of the hallway. And it's 10 1130
it's just been
got busy doing something else and ended up leaving that and I've just walked just completely pitch black bullet a guy and just caked with my big toe. This fucking metal is it that's a wooden solid wooden by
chills now like when someone talks about stubbing your toe, it's like you can feel it.
It's horrible. And so yeah, that was what you think is Gemma you listen to the show a bit. What did you think we did a bunch of content around.
ingrown toenails. Is that something you relate to that you think is interesting content or should we avoid it?
I mean, it's fine. I don't have I'm like apathetic towards content. Did anyone end up sending Yeah,
we got some real Yeah, we don't want to show you after this.
One look like it was actually like dairy product on the guys. I know. Amy said that's mustard on there for sure. It was an infection. Yeah.
I was about to say like, I've got a pretty strong stomach.
Now are you a messy person or a plain Posey very
clean? Very my mom would disagree. But I could have like one bobby pin on the ground. Do you call these claim Gemma?
Yes. Do you have areas because I like to. I'd love to be clean. If you look at my desk at the moment. It's pretty filthy.
I'd be worse.
I mean, definitely could be. It's not that messy. You've just got a lot of stuff on it. And so what determines Miss, like, what is that for you Josh for me? It's just having two things that don't go together together. But then so far.
so set is a maniac when it comes to his office. I think you're you're you're pulling a Seth Godin over there on your desk, because it's like he had a rubber duck.
A rubber duck doesn't go with him. You say? Yeah,
but that's fun. Yeah,
it is sort of fun. Yes. method to the madness. Yeah. He's thought about everything there. And so from for me, Mrs. Just like when you've been a grown can haven't been bothered to put something back to where it lives. Right. And just just what's it What's your problem?
I'm nibbling at mine like a little mouse? Oh, yeah,
I will say because just because in front of you, we don't have to eat them. Ah, how many times have heard that as a kid? Just because they're in front of you Josh doesn't mean you have to eat. I'm
actually I wouldn't. Yeah,
I guess I wouldn't say that. I meaning because we're on camera. And it's like, we're actually just because we've laid this out. Just because it's there doesn't mean you have to eat it.
Unbelievable. But I also get to speak with email.
So it's gonna be an interesting show. I think the final thing that I'll ate before we stop eating for the rest of the episode we can just try the morrow bar It's been a while Yeah, I tell you what,
I would might only buy that
monsters by more robots. Why do you sit Why do you say that?
it's monsters say that Mars Mars bars
it's like here's the thing you buy one of those favorites of celebrations packets. You tell a lot about a person based on what they say. Yeah, and I'm always I judge what someone will take it and if tomorrow I'm judging, I've built up a stomach to like everything that no one else likes. Turkish Delight. Yeah, Turkish Delight man green and yellow lollies. It all of those and the reason is because I know I've actually I think it's built building up a tolerance because when you desperate and you look in the cupboard, and there's the lollies from the night before and there's just green and yellow.
I just don't think I've ever been that desperate. Yeah, well,
welcome to my world it's pretty What do you came to say the other day bad code. He said I had bad code Yeah, like any like computer programming
because it was about it was about the Hollis
because I want you I one your pre you create one wasn't even fat Friday's. Yeah. So
that was good, because then I knew what I was like. Yeah.
So the morrow the morrow story is the
moral of the story. The story
is that I actually got a whole esky of Mario bars. When I was a kid, my my dad, my dad, my dad was going to use it and it was perfect. My dad's Mike was going to New Zealand and he brought back an esky full of marbles because I love them so much. And I'd found out on the internet that they had the full service ones in New Zealand and so I actually replaced my Sunday draw took everything out and put my arrow bars and I counted them each day. I remember sometimes I'd be like miscount. Eight an extra one for the day. But then I think it was my brother and I'd get really quiet
is on the hunt for all this food tonight. The supermarket there is there's definitely a good feeling. They are pulling back on how fucked up some lollies out like
LSTMs thing with the yogurt like that makes sense. You don't if you opposite you don't have to have it on Thank you.
But I like
you it's not America like it's one of my favorite things to go into a supermarket and just look at the colors of the boxes of cereal. And the you know like all those It's unbelievable. We should see a lot
to that I haven't been to America but in France oh my god so much good stuff any other country is like we I think we're pretty strict here in terms of what what we're allowed to give. What did you want when you went shopping? Like Was there anything that you want today? Yeah,
I just wanted a bit of nostalgia. It's not something I Oh, it's not i'm not craving nostalgia like Josh is. But they this brings back memories of the school. We are the dank ruse. LSTMs that smash a lot of those clinc is the problem with nostalgia I feel is that
the high is always going to go away. So that's the one thing like I'm and this was discoverable?
That's where I've discovered I'm like, I've started to realize I don't know whether this is like a problem maybe I should say psychologists say yes. But the problem is the problem is psychologist very quickly is the one if you get a bad one, you're so worried about getting shit on your dress.
The face? No, the psychologist like them having a download like I almost want them to, to maybe give them all of my social media. Like I've downloaded it all from Facebook or whatever and say you do you do a big download, spend the next few weeks understanding who I am. And then let's chat. Because I just feel like otherwise. What do I lead with? They're not judging you and you just telling them about yourself? But then then I feel like they're going to judge me because if I lead with like, what story do you like?
what would you start off with? So a cycle that you're walking but
question driven from them, so you don't know where it's going to set? How are you What's happening? Like it's not some tell us the deepest, darkest secret ever? You know, but it's i'd feel like I would need to go there. I think this is why you've never been
Yes, I am.
Have you ever been? You know, you're in the same camp? Yeah,
as Josh I just I mean, I
get someone to help. But what's that mean? What do you
trying to understand like the answers that I would worry that I'll give them the answers that I want to he also preface these things like Tommy pointed out the fact that he thinks that the reason that I pull him up on it anytime he says anything wrong. And he says to me yesterday, he said, I've actually worked it out. Yeah. I said, What? He pulls me up anytime I stuff a word
is the before after the fight after the
fight, if I bet I've just seen a patent of like I stuff up way of saying something and what do I do something?
And then yeah.
I mean, you're closer to it. Because it's your job. You're a copywriter, you have
to be right, maybe that's what I need help for. Like, I'll go in and be like, I have an unwarranted self censorship. But I've worked.
I've worked it out. So maybe I can work out you by the end of the day about where it's where I didn't even psychologists have just got
it. So what is it? Well, it came from Josh
telling me that his mother Lynn would pull him up about what was that one thing? Like advertisement Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Marion, but you even impersonated? And I don't know how much of an exaggeration it is. I mean, every That's right.
Pretty spot on. But the way you said it, I had this like, Shadow, where I'll always you is the kid. Yeah. And as I connected the dots, I'm like that Josh to me. I've got it. I'm Yeah. Because then you're dealing with my triggers or something or my I'm projecting? Yeah. Which makes sense. Because I give little facts about usually what how I speak and what I say.
But I will say, I have had this
feeling lightly. And I don't know, like you're closer probably actually know, now that we do the podcast five days a week.
I felt like,
I feel like I'm at the line of potentially crossing over and saying something that I shouldn't have said or voicing an opinion about something that can cause something. I don't know, I just have these feelings. So I don't like I'm so close to. And I don't even have that much that many polarizing views on things. Do you mean like podcaster? And then publicly? Like I mean, on a podcast publicly, not just like, you know, down the pub. I regretted them, Mr. Potato Head stuff that I laughed out yesterday. I'm sure
you don't regret.
Maybe today is the day I cry. I'm
regret talking about this squeegee on
the squishy thing was, I think it's had good content. It's been good content. Yeah, it's had come through. And as I said to Tommy's wife, everyone's got a squeegee story. Well, I don't know. But then Tommy thought that I was being appropriate. I said, What's your squeegee story? You're inferring and pushing the direction of what have you shoved in your
Take it, you can take that you see how you make the connection. But I think
there is an ability, though, to be able to deal with it. So I don't think it's great thing saying that saying? So if you think something how often should you say it was not? What do you do? Jim? Do you have a default? Like, do you constantly My mom always said is Think before you speak? Yeah,
I still get Yeah. I really
do you have? Do you? Do you ever get sad of like, I shouldn't have said that to you post something. I did something on social media, that it's more of a rot that Yeah, you've got your podcast now, though. So you're closer to that. But in your writings, you think you think you got that? nasty reviews?
bad reviews? Or is it Oh, like positive? So look at my affiliate link.
Know, because I'm like, I don't do bad reviews? Because I figure because it's all beauty. Yeah, it's very subjective. So if something doesn't work for me, doesn't mean it's not gonna work for someone else.
My mom said to me the other day, and she's a big meditator.
Yes, I heard that begin
to meditation. And last thing I'm having is that by I'm hot from all this actually, I really can't stop cancer. Mom was saying,
having opinions on things. She's like, that's that's majority of the problem with a lot of opinions on opinions I just realized. But it's like, the opinion on different types of meditation. We were talking about what meditation is, and we went deep into it. You know, the difference between relaxation meditation goes, Dave, I can't even explain it. But the point that stuck with me was like, having a podcast, having a platform, having social media, where these are opportunities to submit your opinions and thoughts in areas which I don't think he's always that beneficial, like I've found from having this podcast. One of the things I've written out about what I've learned is I've solidified my thinking around some things doesn't mean it won't change. But I have genuinely felt like I have something to say about it. x y&z now, whereas before when I wasn't doing this stuff, it's like, oh, yeah, you know, you'd be on the fence about everything. Well, you have to think about your personal brand and shit. Do you think about like, how is your personal brand changed?
It hasn't. I aren't like,
it hasn't changed a great deal. But I don't put anything like super personal online, it's all business. So I feel like I'm not at risk of like putting too much out there.
Because every time if I like if I was going to an event and Bry was there, I'd be like, oh, Bry I feel like I know you you're on social media like that constant and even Bry will like her work. Someone would say, I saw your boyfriend. Like I saw Josh walking up church straight. That sort of thing. People wave like we were at a wedding and someone was like, waving at me. And she's like
friend of mine. I've known for years, but I haven't seen her knees and she is just watched all of the videos as I've posted them. She's matched with me, but me doesn't know her. And so it's such a weird time.
I feel like I'm mates with Amy. Yeah.
fully expected that I would be babysitting him this afternoon happy to
not actually if you're Are you going to the moon there's no fucking movies out isn't a nun and the only got a free part way to movie tickets. Yeah,
I was gonna say how do you decide like we're gonna go to the movies but you don't know what we
don't it's you know, very rare these days
going the other way. Well, I want to say this movie but then I see
all I want to say is john wick when it comes out in April? Yeah, what is that? john wick Keanu Reeves just is john Mason actor john wick is the guy centered it's called john wick. And basically he's he's the he's the storyline. And I guess yet, guns fighting shooting natural into shit. Not
This is his wife dies. Wife
buys him a puppy dog which arrives after she dies. These gangsters fuck with the wrong guy, john wick Robbie's house, and take his car kill his dog. So he's basically killed his wife again. And he comes out of retirement. How do you know the whole fucking retirement and kills everyone? It's john wait three sorry, there's been
a storm It
is truly So wait, I didn't know how much money this movie was gonna make. Not they do any of the matrix is another one of those. I really haven't seen a
week they started this. It's like the Jason Bourne franchise. I've lost both of these
will go to the movie theater my phone booth and loves that movie. I wish they could have done more with that. I wish you could see another movie other than phone but it's because this so many great movies other than one that says in the phone booth. What's your top? Three? What is what are your top movies? One the count of three will say our favorite movie.
Ready? 123. Psycho.
Psycho, it would have been great if we both had the same your psycho. You like horror film you very
much psycho something
that you would like I feel like the English class you'd have to like Media Studies.
at uni. I did cinema studies is one of my subjects. And we did a whole semester on Hitchcock. And I was like,
the Bogan that I am. I love that. Yeah, that's because most most people like I did all art subjects. I got like 46 on my interest score signing. It was pretty atrocious.
I heard you all swapping into scores. Yes. I don't even remember. Really? No, I think it was like a 75. That's right. No, no, no, no, I could have done a lot better. But the course that I wanted to get into the second I realized that it was interview he was the wife was like, Well, I'm charming. So this will be fine.
Miss 99. The so what why? That idea of an interview What the fuck like it Tommy and I have never done this. So was this like for a course you had to interview
was interview and portfolio was writing and editing. So I did that for two years. That was an associate degree and then I did journalism afterwards. And that was interview as well. What was it? What did they ask you? I don't remember. Yeah, I do not remember. I've heard so many. Right, the baby everyone else because it was our MIT. So everyone else was like, in their 40s and had gone back as like a skill refresher. And I've just got back from school.
Did you make older friends?
Yes. I made they were couple around my age. But it was good. Because then all of the grown ups will actually start working now. Yeah, so I started working. When I was it
wouldn't do you think we stop referencing school? Like At what age? I think Tommy's ready to because you were just saying, I just love it. Well Josh loves it because he you bring up memories. And I'm like, dude, I actually don't know how you have those, like minor gone, either. I've blocked them out. And so I'm like, I'm more happy that I'm a longer time away from what I was being in school than I spent at school almost almost like I've lived you no longer on the other side, or have been at school. So what is it?
He's a real grown up, man.
So if you're 31 you'd have to be 36.
Yes, I'm not far off. I'm not far off. And
actually, that would imply that you were in school from when your baby anyway, I basically pulled my foot off the gas in grade six. Actually, no, I was I was refusing to go to school from grade three, Oregon problem probably younger notice. Just the system bro.
Feel like I feel for the kids that are struggling in that system.
at the time I left and it was frowned upon. But I felt the pressure. Like the closest thing like this is the thing how many kids are not like not emotionally in touch. And so they're not registering that they're feeling this shame around leaving school and shit. So but I totally remember I didn't identify this shame. It's just like, I'm embarrassed because I'm the kid that left school you know, was your mom and dad hard on you and not supportive, supportive of me training. But what about like, if you took a day off school what they say? It was harder for mom to try and get me to school then what would she say? She was? She was disappointed. She never said start right. So my mom would go hard. Like if I took one Sick Day. Yeah,
be like, you are
as in a fake See, but in saying that. Okay, yeah, that makes sense. But yeah, I pulled facts he does. I didn't ever You know, sometimes you don't know if you seek I just thought Oh, I could be getting sick. Like it's on that cost
Yesterday my mom would be if I said I think I'm getting yet but you're not. Exactly Does that make sense? Why?
Because then there's we're thinking about parenting here because it's like, do you try and build their resilience? Because we've got pretty weak generation of kids that will
but yeah, soft very soft.
In terms of like, feeling like they're deserving of getting into jobs quicker than they can or you know, with no experience and all that stuff. So it's like yeah, I get it sort of making a kid go to school today. I mean, I'm not far off having these experiences with my own son. What do you reckon all this internet shits gonna do to them? It's gonna fuck them out absolutely lately
is the because we was talking the start of the social media may getting off I've retired from social media although
I retired is still using the questions function
period stories know
one thing he has done he's retired from Instagram like personal
brand Josh Janssen
doing the blog every day. No, no.
I've quit sugar.
No, it's it's I've actually gone right off the rails in like I'm worldwide.
What would you call it? I just I sent an apology message to break because I had a meltdown this morning. Oh, yeah. Said she loved my thanks for understanding message. Why people have only just started doing Yeah, I don't like interacting with either.
Send me a message
on a bit. Then she sent a lovely lot. So good. So she said I've got it. And I love that. But it was I was getting over just like it's such first world he sort of shit. But just because we don't have a place at the moment. We've been housesitting and we're like, we don't have any structure. Exactly. We're homeless. And I've said
we said at the beginning of the year, it's like the February 11. is the last day that we're house in. And we need a place by then. Yeah,
and that's really
yeah, so it's coming out really soon. And then I was just double downing on this morning where I was like I said to break
down a doubling down.
Same people in the same room. They just
Definitely, guys, I want to say it's a pretty annoying try.
Thanks good for Ben Banta. Nice, good.
housekeeping. scalar you
know, I know what I'm saying.
The actually writing was always be thinking No, but um, so I was saying to him like, Man, it's getting expensive. She's like, why is it gonna get expensive on my rent? I'm like, No, Airbnb, and hotels and stuff. And she said, What do you mean, we can go back to your mom and dad's I might know, I think we're not going back like this. I I, if we're moving out, like if we're like, because we've already like we spent most of our like adult life being away from home we've only been back for a little bit. I just don't want to have to fucking keep moving around. So I put the pressure on I was like, No, we need to find a place which is a bit rich. Because Brisbane doing all the looking Yeah, but it's based on I think she cares more than I do. But then I did contact a real estate like a person today. And Mr. 97 was trying to help me What do you think a good if I'm sending an email to a property manager and I want to say like yeah, I know this is funny.
How How do I do a persuasive email so that I get the apartment that I'm very
question so what I ended up so the big thing was I'd said Hi, I basically put in there I had been renting this place for x mount awake and Miss 97th do you have to flex how much I was like
flex Another thing I didn't know I
thought I was young
today no YouTube
definitely an American youtuber thing more. Yeah.
Anyway as he were
so yeah. Do you think it's weird to put in Hey, this is how much I was paying beforehand as a way of being like, I think I can afford this next place. Yeah. Because you don't be arrogant. But like what you only leave me that the question that they've got on their mind is can you afford it? Not even that's a prerequisite for Yeah, it's, they can only be a person that can afford it. But what do you lead with?
I've never had to do this. It was great when I was doing
but when I was a kid, you have to write an apology letter. My only
child would not know what to do. Yeah,
no, but I think getting places this soon. I'm veering off slightly
pink, pink all right here we go. Clink Clink a challenge rain last minute
getting off parking fines or speeding tickets that kind of stuff. Like you can write in and I wrote in and I and I went the full sob story.
I didn't want
it was just at a time that we really couldn't afford it. Bodhi was like just born it was you know, is fucking horrible. Because the fine was like 570 bucks or something. And so
it didn't work. Like this fucking monster person.
But they right back. And know it's just like, sorry, your
But I was like, not successful. But my mate is got off multiple times. And so I need his template. So it's actually the thing is it's it was easier for me back in the day to get a place than it is now because back in the day, I would just Hi. I'm in the writing I bees Yeah, I get a box and
jewels land. I'm the web guy. I'm a character
I mean into time and I'm in showbiz me when my
friends are applying for jobs at Mecca they like Gemma was
Yeah, she the way
she work? Because you're banking on an individual. So you're trying to speak to them? Yeah. Yeah. Like what I did when I will try to get a place in Bondi Beach, which is like, it's it's Melbourne on steroids. As far as the amount of people
at these things. aspects. You take a photo
and show many people. Oh, yeah. But how do we find one? So I went to one. So what was great is I went to one and there was not many people there and it wasn't the one we wanted. And then
and then I am I'm done.
I went to the you're not done that I will not stop. You will not stop eating. Let's be honest. So I went to one and I spot and I met the woman who was the lady and Amy had called her and then I went and so we just started it's like a small relationship building. And then they liked it. She liked us. And so we definitely didn't have like I didn't have a job at that point. Amy was
the solo income for us. And we got it. It was a 500 bucks a week apartment. So I feel like what I might need to do is if I looked on their Facebook, I could find out what they're into.
Because it's a modern family really the other way around like that we're trying to sell someone a house so I just decorated it in like sports colors. And that's a
clever marketing slightly off but I think one of the options is and is real estate it's fact because if you know someone you've got it, yes, my places I've got because I know the real estate and she's like, you want this one you can have this one, I'll just make it happen. And so I always just taken the name of the agent put it into my Facebook, see if we had mutual friends that are real estate agents. This is the this is the thing going to private schools. got all these kids that are all in the release that were the kid they end up at Real Estate
making shit loads
of money, or just people anyway. Just painful, just painful. Where was it going?
That was a flex
I went with a lot went to school with a lot of rich kids. Yeah,
but connections and they might
actually I went to primary school with a girl whose dad owns a huge real estate agent. And then I went to like the other kids they will own the real estate you know right wide
Australian real Melvin bass real estates a very funny reference it Gemma's the social media thing you feel like you can control like, You don't seem to give a fuck about anything to like, you know people mistake mistake maybe for things like this the idea of eating so like Mr. 97 would be appalled with this sort of stuff that we're eating or
you know, social media just being like you're only should be doing a certain amount of day. Do you have any points where you like on social media like I'm feeling non grind? Or maybe I should stop doing it or no? Like stop not not post it not stop posting but just do you get those feelings of like
don't show it's no different to like writer's block that's I used to care so much I used to be like you have to post once a day otherwise you're not going to get engagement but now
it makes me when you know those stories when people are like let me know if my posts aren't coming up in your face the algorithm etc etc GIFs a sheet like people say you content in the lock it great but if you not pulling in the locks and has it evolved, as well
as your stuff evolved where you like I'm caring less about Instagram, I'm building it Have you got an email database
Nice. Um, I only for my like business business. I only built a website for it in December, and I've been running it for two years without any luck. Everything was just coming through referrals I just
can shoot like how do you consume stuff? Is it all on Instagram? Or do you have like, other things going on? like to have like for instance, like gone website like do you? Yeah,
I do. Go raid. Okay, like I'll scroll through Instagram, but that's not where I like
it's not your highest and then I'll just kill them. Where do you go? That's what I'm curious about. Where do people go after they leave Instagram?
So you do just
like I've got a certain muscle memories of Oz bargain calm, which is so fucking like, you
know, you made like you open a browser and whatever thing from put in jail. Okay, yeah, then second like if you were doing command take Amanti, like, command take how you open a new tab.
super handy. Um,
I don't I refinery. 29 there were like, I just read Busey knees. And then news news. But
and do you consume YouTube content? Or no,
not so much? I used to, but I don't know. Because all like all I would be consuming is beauty stuff. And I just find it I've been
giving you get over the beauty stuff on I reckon that's good. I love it. Yeah. But what's the what's the actual like evolution from a beauty? Like, does it start with? Like, where do you go from here in regards to interest factor? Like if you're in a if you're obsessed? When it comes to beauty? Where does it start? And where does it end? So can start I guess, like foundation shit. And that's like, oh, how do I change my face? Yeah,
no, I think I feel like I might have talked about last time that there's two very different camps with beauty. And there's you start when I was when did you to become a to 2007 I was gonna say I would have been about 16. And that's when I would watch people doing their makeup on YouTube. This is the tip I can learn. And then I don't know just I just started to find everything to be uninspiring.
Do you have moments of wanting to live in another city? If you if you did live in another city? What would it be
London? Definitely. I've got a UK passport. It's just sitting there. Mother Father. Because my dad side of the family his parents are from there.
And so you just applaud Yeah. Interesting. You you disappointed in that you don't have one Josh if you've got one she's got one doesn't use it. It's like having a ball when I was a kid and we had a pool. We never used it. I've got my boat license. don't own about.
That's another love about
dream big. Get your license in a passport. Feel that you've let's go to both. Do you think you did London thing or no?
Maybe I'm pretty happy here. Yeah.
Well, it seems like you've got the simple existence in terms of the way the approach. And Josh is. Like, I just I love how you quizzing about the social stuff was trying to find under unhappy. It's pretty lonely, you're unhappy somewhere. Amazing that you can do it all without giving a talk. And you honestly think that is that true? Is that the truth is I mean, there's
times when I give a fuck, but do things for me. I think when I started doing things for me instead of for other people that's kind of changed. So I quit my job and started doing my own thing. I was
thinking Josh about your exit of social media retiring? Yes,
I'm going to come back
now I am not. But what I was thinking was, it's fair to say and I'm not talking like I have found the success but you didn't find the success in your personal brand. And like that. So I had, like 1700 followers, I've been doing it for like 10 years, which is why I'm like maybe, since the highlight comes from that, not that you're going Oh, I didn't make it. But look at how exciting it is. When you've got the daily talk show. We've got all these people interacting and speaking to us. And it feels like a real audience. It just doesn't feel like it might just go I'll give him a fucking luck.
But I would you like the most important
thing. You think of it like I when I am on Instagram, I'm all of a sudden very wary of people looking at my content, or what are people thinking about this?
I want us to
shift that I like
your friends more in in your camp. Like this. your level of thinking towards social media like I know you, uh, you were outlier. Okay. Okay, so yeah, more people? like Josh Yeah.
that makes sense. I was gonna say Josh might be an old song, just highly affected by technology. And maybe young kids are like, this is like quit saying about what social media is going to do. Like they're just accepting of this always anxieties around shit, like, wonder what someone's thinking about my content. It's,
it's dangerous. And I think young people would care more because so many of them a lack. I'm gonna make this my job. Yeah. And because I've never wanted it to be maybe that's the difference, because it's not
my job. It's just, you know, what's this thing that's hyper rewarding. And then you want that too. You see people making money from it, and you want that to be your thing. But in the scheme of things, like it's just as hard now to become a superstar on in on the internet as it was to become a Hollywood superstar like Hollywood superstars it kind of done in terms of the Tom Cruise's like the old school Maryland man, right? Like all of that older generation. It's not like that anymore. Because models. Yeah.
And so it's actually next to impossible to do it. Yeah.
people think because I can just pull up their phone and take a photo. They're closer to it. So there's this little illusion, like it could be done. But chances are no chance models thing. Do you think that there is a models the new thing or models?
Really? Yeah. And you'll you'll book better and higher paying jobs if you've got more followers, because then it's greater exposure for the brand.
And so because that's what's interesting is like models then going on to writing books, and doing liking because being a model is a job. Yeah. But it's not a full person. I guess it's the same with like, being a video person or being a copywriter
that models and like, if you're an Instagram person, there's an expiry on it, I think. I don't know. I think I've always been very aware that you can't live off that forever,
expiring best before. I
never been so disappointed in watching and admiring this dude's body online. He's a bodybuilder. And that, is that right? Is that right? That is my mind.
I was like you
Everyone has to come out firing. So I told you. So. I was I follow this dude. He's like,
I was into kind of the bodybuilding stuff. So I'm like, I like I
say this. I really admire people that put in the works green artist wants to play the game as well.
listening to it, and
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, guys.
I had the color. He
got it. I said I old one. And
so this dude, he's like, I can look like Arnold Schwarzenegger. It's like crazy. And then I went to as you YouTube channel. And I was like, dude, you started talking. He started talking. Like, it's,
it was the illusion. So that's the model thing, too. I think it's probably plenty of plenty of girls that is super successful with a multivitamin body. Like it being multi dimensional, I think is important. Yeah. It like self developed. Do you think about self development much
all the time?
What does that mean to you?
I mean, this is what I think about like, what does it mean to me? Because I try not to? I don't know, I'm I love the idea of developing as a person. But I also think if you set yourself black, I don't know a very singular goal, you can become closed off. So I don't know. I think these try to keep an open mind. And then I think maybe that's self development is having more of an open mind. Yeah, sure.
Guys, it's like, I've realized I'm being judged on this guy who doesn't seem like he has a massive personality. When he starts talking. And I'm critiquing him based on he's serving up something that's meant to be entertaining, right? Yeah. And so it's not like, he's an idiot. I'm sure he's a really lovely guy. Maybe not.
Bad, but the reality? Is he, the things we do we put ourselves out there to be judged. Maybe not as a person, but people are judging our work that we do. Yeah.
funny thing, is that, like a caveat around, you know, are you just fucking being critical? So when you watch a movie and critique it as someone who's invested a life into that thing, but you actually just critiquing the film? So are you allowed to take the film? Is that okay? Maybe it's a bad thing. Maybe it's confidence in the format. I don't feel like none of the judgment concerns me on the podcast, or the daily talk show. Like I can say, anything. It's an I'm not really concerned with what people think of what I say. And less. I think about myself. I'm like, I regret saying that. Because that's actually not who I am. But outside of that, it's like, I'm fine. Whereas with the social media stuff, it feels like it's a playing field, like it's a equal playing field. So it feels like everyone's got, like, I can always decide, well, not everyone can do this. Not everyone's going to show up every day or whatever. Yeah, the fact is, everyone can have instinct, everyone can do social media. I think
that's sort of why I don't put anything. Like To me, it's just business. I'm anything super personal out there. Because then I'm, I sort of think they can't be is G because not a whole lot of my personality, but I can attack you personally. Yeah,
where it's like, I guess with the podcast, like this ease, maybe I feel more comfortable because I am being me, and I'm doing the whole lot. So then people can choose whether they It feels like it's more active consumption that people have to we're talking about protective mechanisms, though, because one
of the nice guy,
I'm fucking sure of who I am. So you can't even nothing will get through to me because yeah, I'm sold on me. And the other one is the business thing. Yeah. And I'm, I'm in your camp Josh around the, or I'm okay with who I am. And I know what my intentions are. So if you're judging all of that, which I know that's just like a defense because you could also listen to feedback with some of the hard to decipher the feedback actually. Yeah. What what actually makes sense. Yeah. What's happening in pop culture at the moment? Because I have no idea. I don't I just watched the TV. Yeah,
but I watched like, I'm a celebrity. Get me out of here. And I don't know if that counts as pop.
And you had a great piece of pop culture just before who's on Dancing with the Stars?
Oh, yeah. Call Stephen novick's. Excellent. And Australian TV celebrities. Want to be famous.
was in a scandal.
scandal. Right? Public
breakup been married 20 years and there's definitely not a scandal. scandal if it's like yeah, she slept with
Richard broken. Yeah.
You see, Dickie? Yeah.
Because we're talking about
trialing big riders.
Is the consuming of the TV like a to consume much TV? Yeah,
but we just watched someone Netflix. Okay. Yeah, I'm trash. You watch the fire? Yes. Oh, my God. It's the best thing I've ever seen. I have re watched that. What's his name? Bill thing are a dozen times and Billy Yeah, who was like, and I got there fully prepared.
Billy Billy was, it was Andy Andy was, he was
prepared to suck that man.
There's so many good means. There was one I sent it to one of my friends today because it was relevant to her. And it said before a first date, it's like I'm not even gonna kiss him. After two drinks.
What they told me about is this festival that was meant
and the water that was meant to be for the whole entire festival hundreds of thousands of bottles was being held at the border or held at the customs and this you know, out there guy dude, who was the
he was just say that
he wasn't that guy. He wasn't that flamboyant. He wasn't that some sexually charged i don't think i mean he was really it was literally got all go down that he
was willing to
go down there to second is the
SEC. I went home I took a shower.
I drank mouthwash. Just Hey, man. Actually, I was confused with that line. We've spoken about it in the office.
What was he doing? Why? What's the mouthwash for? is just to get a routine routine. You know? Like was he drinking them? It was he actually he didn't say I goggled some mouthwash. Did he actually throw it down judging the words he chose? Like he did well, I would have some mouthwash. Yeah, mouthwash. I drank some my
gosh before I came here because you're talking about bad breath earlier in the week and so while he did
he was talking about metrosexual and Josh was just question I don't even know if you were thinking it you actually thought Jesus slow down
actually feel sick yeah I know. I know and evidence Maybe Mr. 97 King Kak together. Every moment Josh eight on the podcast.
Together may try not to spill any
metrosexual and we still looked at the definition of a and Is it is it okay nowadays to call someone? metrosexual what
I feel like Metro sir, but I feel like metrosexual is in the same day and age that we bought t shirts from Jay Jay's
Ed Hardy is what's in my head and I bought one of those from Charles straight
strip it dies. Yeah, it was.
And Roxanne wake
true religion Jane's no diesel these days? God I guess I wasn't metrosexual. I was tanning for being a stripper. I was. Yeah, I was shopping. You always you're talking about self tanning before? Have you? always just sun self tanner? Have you allowed someone to spray on you?
I used to get spray tans. But I don't know. I'm good. Now.
I don't know if I could do it. I don't know if I could. What to do what we need to do now just allow someone to just spray this machine
on the machine because I feel it'll be like on friends when Ross gets
me they give
you the problem with just you just go into the
break would go completely naked to make sure no,
really love it. Is that a look?
Yes. A legit thing? Yes. You could say hello to ya flexing your
face today? Is it
a conscious thing that people are talking about girls are talking about what they lie on
from the test. So it's a fake line.
But yeah, so does that mean would you wear your favorite babies or whatever to get the special baby? I know you. Yeah,
well, you can do like a just black than the color white? Uh huh.
Well, I mean, to be honest, that probably most guys just think fact. I stay at the sun too long. Look, it doesn't even align with a bikini.
Why are you doing it? Is it?
I just feel like
how much do you think this is like, within fashion and beauty is for the for the person and what they feel about themselves versus for other people?
I don't know. I would like to say like, I just do things for me that 5050 Yeah, I think there's a lack. I don't know. It's a hard
thing because people have said previously lack all you know, you're bad feminist if you want to, like look a certain way and dress a certain way. I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to lack. Look, not what makes you feel good.
One of the contentious subjects for a lot of people, a lot of women, maybe a lot of feminists, is toxic feminine.
Body, hey, yeah,
it's a thing Josh
well, I've seen online like some of the, okay, they
rhyme that was one of the mumps. And it's like, no, it's not moving. It's like, not shaving my legs. December or something I didn't really smooth fib was known as the opposite. I was like, whoa, hey, in this month. So it's all about sort of growing the under I'm here and
I do it. And I'm like, again, if it makes you feel good.
Just trying to think of what it would be what can we just as a marketing team, what would be a month would be a month and a word that we could put together him? Jay, I haven't looked at that Henry Harry growing their hair of the or something like that.
But yeah, so there's like the society or the words.
Whatever, you get what I mean? Yes, that's the best thing about the English language. It's the only one I speak. You kind of get the gist of what I'm saying. Even if I butcher the fuck out. Yeah.
So you got what I meant.
So it's a culturally influenced or society has a
preconceived idea of what women should be like. That's the sort of angle they they're pushing back on. What is that? I
think that idea is starting to shift. And I personally don't want Harry on her arms, but that's just me. Like,
but then now someone asked me
like, Oh, that's because I'm trying to play as a man. Yeah,
I mean, I've shaved down to my underarms and it just lyst smell. Yeah.
So is that a
serious fact? It's annoying. I'm sweaty.
Alright, so my problem is I've got like a very hairy back. Big, bro. But do you think like,
no, don't shave? Because I didn't
a razor shave. How would you deal with the monster Blaze? Then what happens in 2025? When we lips and it's really called in a bloody bit of one you back whenever you want. I'm sure we'll get to it. But there'll be a time where it's like it's in fashion. Maybe
if that comes into, it doesn't last forever. Like if you get lazy you have to go. Once every it depends on you, hey, after once every like four to six weeks and you would do probably six sessions. Then they will.
What have you got? Can you just say six sessions? Yeah. So now we'll look at how your head is going. And then they'll tell you Okay, you need to come back for X number of sessions and then you go back once a year for like a top up.
I've found the month that it is. Oh yeah. You saw the man says this is the month that's associated with growing your hair. Get hairy February
someone told me they're under I'm here which you don't do. Bry What is that? Maybe that maybe they had meets and now we're using a new time. js a new national campaign to raise money to fight violence against women gronk course is encouraging women to go all natural route. Au Naturale. Yeah.
Or not sure. Oh,
I you were to
shaving their legs and underarms during fib. Get hairy February is a peer to peer initiative to raise money and awareness and awareness. Director Alex Andrews said, Dude said the campaign was not the female equivalent was Movember. Okay? No, dude, telling women to grow their hair might be Alex ism. Maybe this is a question I asked. Maybe, you know,
we're very familiar
with growing hair for a cause in Australia. It's a concept we understand. She said. Movember is culturally embedded now. It is seen as fun and easy. It's acceptable for men to grow CD mustaches in workplaces around the country. But would it be is acceptable for women to do the same with their armpit and leg hair? And in warmer months? It's part of creating that conversation. The laser thing? Would people do it with their pubes with the whole thing? Could you ever commit to your whole pubic hair? So you never have to worry about waxing and all over again?
Yes, that's a big commitment.
I mean, well, that's one thing
coming back into fashion in that respect, but the thing is what Jim is saying is that some people have actually lies at everything.
not pointing fingers. But that had like so like laser the whole thing so you never have to worry about it ever again. But that that is a very permanent
you're gonna eventually grow back.
So it needs to be constant. Yeah,
well, fuck are they gonna invent this shit? Just get it got I'll get my back completely done.
Because I'm sick of having to ask my wife can you just please just sort me out?
It's just she What does she do like clippers? I'd be Brazil. I like it. Yeah,
pretty much can't see it solves a problem. I just don't like it. I think this is the court this is the closest sort of man's gaping like the routine that I would have.
What? Like what constitutes men Skype being involved?
no man's gotta be I think man's gaping at its core is shaving here from a man's body. Like
you said, Okay, I thought about fixing my next neck buried. What's that? Just? Yes, just that's just being
a gronk I mean,
literally, I said it the other day to
Maybe you could do something with the laser and actually have pure gronk
was driving out.
To you turn as I'm coming in a straight that you don't mean to and he's windows down and mine was down. I just yelled out. Yeah. gronk. And he looked at me so confused. And I realized that as I said it loud that it's like he tried very confusing. Yeah, wrong. He's like, what? Like, you probably didn't understand what you're saying. Yeah.
Neil gronk What's 2019 what's at the year? I'll see you Jim.
Well, my new year's resolution we were talking about
I wouldn't even think you'd have new year's resolution
so easy. My other one I came up with this after I'd had like two layers of moderator on New Year's play more practice
Have you done any Yeah, what can we
not really know because it came about we had people over and I went down the side of the house and I was in we've got like a raised decking and I was down the side so sort of know
the title of the
gym is not a Manta you happy as a copywriter? What should today's it? That's good old gym is not a mantra in you and T so for people who are not from Australia? Yeah, just vomiting I was
gonna say not having to cheeky spew and then
still kinda way down the side of the house and then I was it seemed so funny at the time because we will waste it but I was just like calling out people's names from the side of the house now like where's that coming from? I was just there and then we're that's when it
I'm on Frank's 29th a low level but I think we get you I want to know before you come back on the show. Probably be definitely within this year. Yeah, I want you to do some serious pranking. What is a? Jimmy just drop someone? Yeah, I know dress. It's okay. It's just the prank thing.
malicious versus Okay, where is the way sort of the benchmark? Can I tell you an example of one you to believe? So I was a part of this. Not my idea.
This dude who makes videos one was making a video and he called me as Dude, I need your help. I need you to play a boyfriend that's going to walk up to a guy who's having coffee with this girl and you're going to be like Hey babe what like
I thought you said you're going to uni and then you sort of like in is it awkward interaction with them long ago was this this was years and years and years like I years ago. What had happened is he's might went out not before and then the boys were like that we've got a number we're going to find number that's not in these thing. And let's say that it's the girl that he met because I didn't exchange numbers. And so John's met this girl Lisa out and the boys are like all right, let's send it from this phone. Hey, john. It's Lisa. So great to meet you last night I got your number of one of the guys
let's catch up for coffee. And he was so wasted that he couldn't remember who or what what least look like.
So what I did was a headline like this.
So Lisa, which was an act different style now we relate to the bar and Lisa was my girlfriend in this thing and so we were across one side of the river on a long lens shooting to a bar on the other side. What for fun? Oh my god
this is so Lisa
goes down there and this guy Bob or whatever. This guy john was going to meet Lisa
Lisa and john
and Lisa had a pin that had a camera on it so there's like I had one of them has one brand
and so then I went around and I think he was behind
this Australian company Swan had a spy actually image them as spy there was shit that you would unscrew them and have a USB thing and you plug it in exactly and so what happens is I then go up john laser having my
and I went in and gave her a kiss on the lips. And as I that was the best
What are you doing? I thought you said you go to school and it just the most fucking awkward situation play that and this guy's a
man who you may
and I kind of gave it a bit but I wasn't really aggressive. I was like, I didn't want to fight him and that is like it just would have been You didn't have to be a good actor. You just need to be awkward and it was so awkward. Anyway, I was shocked pumped to see this video and then the dude who was making it like he's actually not mentally stable so I have to say
it was going well and we told him and
fucking almost had a breakdown I read that one this is the problem with trying
to get a feel good for this the prank he ever got up got me guy he's the same like you've never had boys Josh and there's a lot that went on boys right? We
do stupid shit. And it not to make them happy. It's to make everyone else laugh but then because we do it. We do it within the office with Mr. 97
there's like some scalar probably you've just said
he doesn't know how do you know
he's gonna be on edge
for because Tommy Tommy and I after f5 last week or early in the week when was
it was Wednesday? Thank you
know but we the falling out happened in the morning and Mr. 97 went home we visit
dad and dad
and when we're all good I said
what I said I think I said I was going to message my son yeah and he said why don't we call him and will say that it's completely dead will record it and let's say that the show's over the business is done. Yeah.
one step further. I was like I'll call him bad mouth you you you call him bad mouth may and save your bad mouth by service. But I feel like Josh here Tommy my
control. I just feel like planning for April Fools now.
I just think I would get so hurt that that's what I'm trying to say the stuffer in the boy like I think you build up a resilience. You couldn't do it because you know, you can't even handle Windjammer and I correct you with words You nearly the most annoying traits. It is
it's annoying when you get shit wrong.
me there's no funding getting flour bombed in the shower. Never say that prank is
boring. That's like when all the year 12 girls just cable tied my locker when I was in the
gym is likes most psychological stuff that you say on see stuff that you see on on catfish, so we pretended to be a guy for six months, and then revealed to my girlfriend that he wasn't really
right, his lessons I need to teach these girls.
Anything that sort of plays into manipulation. Yeah. Like
I just used to come home from driving lessons and be like, right.
And then every April Fool's Day I would tell my parents I was pregnant, but then from the age of 16 up they were like, you can't make these jokes anymore.
Why does I do dumb stuff? Like last night? I said to Bry pick a volume of my voice 125 right now and I'll stick to it for the rest of the night stolen
that from me because when my girlfriend got dumped and I was like, do you want Gemma at a 10 honesty and she was like I would like you would have
so I just had to be like yeah, I mean it's not the end of the world and then when I brought up to kill him, you know find him I'm gonna hunt him down and I'm going to poison chop his
brain great touch touched my little finger as a zero.
So I started talking like that. Yeah. And it was sort of annoying for and then I went back I'm like, actually, like, I sort of put my hands out as if she could change the volume but she
so much of a like so much of a prank. I just feel like a bit. I feel betrayed. I feel like I feel a bit triggered like I used to like take the doorknob off so my brothers couldn't get out of a room. That
sounds like these. I wish I had siblings.
I would have ruined their lives you leave like when I remember just people's throat like in a dark room. I mean these are pretty vicious but there was like a full bottle of water and someone would love it. We're all sleep there's 10 of us sleeping this big room. someone throws in it just I remember sleeping
in this room and you were stressed out having a bunk bed.
We were all that I was talking about Josh no audio
issues all that
this was what our main the time that I was saying about you and I sharing room. We were older than we were older and this was one
day I can't create one.
cop one in the scrotum and your scrotum has been mentioned. Yeah,
I got a really left out.
But then it's like your own age. Your own age is someone's gonna fuck with me. Someone mentioned being a jackass just getting punched in the face. I've been in this office before with Tommy with deodorant and are lighter like I'm in fucking.
I want to do that. You
know the whole
chain a deal. I've referenced TV a lot for someone that said before like
Netflix, and I am Jane.
Jane is one of the characters. It's such a good show. I think I've watched watching you'll be like, yeah, the guy who did the I'm on a
boat. Andrew Schaumburg. He's telling the old Josh still want to have sex with him. Well, he's, he's doesn't.
It doesn't look old. But he is all every time Mr. 97 gets his phone know that he's putting a note down for the show.
97 you like you're my into school?
I didn't have one. So yeah, you're my extension.
That's perfect. Yeah. Have you? Have you been overseas peaceful? Any sandwich?
That went on exchange?
Sorry, Tony. We're actually talking.
How old is he? He's 40
better. Oh, no, I know.
It's amazing. I
literally look any older than this. I will not be happy.
Just looks like he's frozen at 2324
That's the dream.
He does any Yeah, she's been doing the same shit. Yeah.
And so on. I was trying to work out because I have this idea of Gemma in my head that she hasn't left Melbourne and it's just like super
happy in Sydney every fortnight. Okay. So yeah,
wherever you bang, you went on to where? France? Can you speak French?
I used to be able to and then I studied it from that great power off it just oh, no, you know what it was? It was all just like, for my usual exams. It was only in short term memory and one of my mates he had a bottle of Sambuca in the tan box underneath the class because I
wasn't yet now it looks like Is it the one that's
in Italy that they use after like you ate?
Yes, lemon cello
symbol curries I think it was like telling them
telling me great it's nice it will fix it up
underneath the classroom because the language exams always last so all of our nights already out celebrating so as soon as the exam was finished our whole French class on takes off God to shut up Sam Boca, and then everything I knew about friends just it sounds like
such a good like teenagers. Yeah.
I picked in high school. No, we had a good year level. Yeah,
it's like you like Ellen Mills. You know, Ellen Mills, she's on YouTube, but she's always talking about my high school stuff. And it's all like I'm not friends. I don't speak to anyone that went to school with ya know you do Josh That's a lie.
Oh, yeah. You're an email with one of them. Oh, no text and it hurt. Yeah,
but she was she was her and I were both very upset when I'm in New 10 I went for school captain and I didn't get it. It was a big issue. I understand that. GPU school captain
is the people that's right the people's can
guys, I'm one month haven't had a drink.
Like I'm probably what time is it?
Each month I might just say what's been happening? Feel fucking great. And it was good. Gemma with the drunk that like what is your? The alcohol thing? What does it do for you? I don't
know. I just like my mom worked for wine wholesale out for a long time. So that's just like part of my family. But also, I have to live out of lack. I don't know. It takes a lot.
I was gonna say like a 75 year old woman you go into any country pub have this just one sitting up at the bar.
He's an alcoholic. Yeah,
actually, some employees get drunk super super quickly. I really like their tolerance goes way down. But it doesn't mean they won't keep drinking. So is fucking pissed off one beer easily. Have you ever had Have you ever had moments because I don't really drink? Yes. Do you have you had moments where you when you ask? What is it about it?
amazing. Just like how I feel quite horrendous from all the sugar. Do you get the the next day blues? Are you like I fucking hate myself?
I drank it to hangover Okay.
Is that what someone says? hangover? Is that what they mean? Do you get hung over? It's like a sort of a despair a depression?
No, it's just something feel Valmont. Now I don't see.
Much. So you just, you just feel like it's like Hulk smash foods.
I saw him Yeah. When I saw I listened to him on the podcast. And then I reckon it was the next day we were at. We were knocked somewhere. Yeah.
And he was the saving chips. No,
they didn't. There was a it was the Bavarian and they have some challenge where you ate a how schnitzel and then you don't have to pay for it. And there was a group of us watching and I was like,
it's not going to be that guy because I had him on the podcast yesterday. And he had some off the menu burger. And then I did a stealth Instagram story. Yep. It was him. Yeah,
he's a machine
doesn't look. Exactly. And he's
smashing. You know, he manages 10 different social media like these managers 10 restaurants like this social media like he's doing so well.
me, he comments back, like within seconds. Yeah, he's amazing. It's I mean, he knows his guru.
And so the so the alcohol thing Have you ever had because if you are pretty full on with it, but you seem to be able to manage it, but have
you ever had?
Have you ever had your friends? Either intervention? or family members? No one's ever
no, I think you have you TJ
No, not at all. But I think
why the fuck does everyone bring up my sugar problem? No, there's more people that are at the level that Jim is it probably at this I know. It sounds like
embarrassing show. me exactly what
it was already. The only time that I everyone's heard the story. So I feel like I can say it. I was lucky after party and I have my girlfriend's with me. And we would stay in the same room but different beds. I went up to the room first got into my bed. She brought a boy back to the room. Nothing happened. They were just having a little cuddle. I got up went to the bathroom. was so drunk. I didn't realize anyone else was in the room got in the wrong bed. We don't know how long I was in there for but then this bloke has rolled over And it's like general What the fuck? Oh, and then I told them that they had got into my bed
of Geez. His reaction was Gemma What the fuck?
Yes. But Hayes
be I told Chris the next morning I'm like, Man, I'm going to bed with a dream last night. Chris was like these poor guy had two girls in bed with him and not one of them had sex.
Sorry, mine went in his apartment was like a mirrored apartment next door filthy.
A myriad meaning the exact same light.
Where's the joy?
Papa just a mere laughs and he was so drunk, walk downstairs, walk out into the hallway, piece in the hallway. Walk walked back in the door. Or back in a dorm up the stairs into the room into the bed. It was nude. He wakes up in the morning and his noise. Noise thinks he's in his apartment. He's in the dude next door to his in that apartment naked in a bed. What happened was to have leaving it one came home thought Andy's the other half night. They've got their friends staying over in my bed. I'll just didn't sleep on the couch. And then the other person came and went upstairs and was like, I got someone's sleeping over. I'll go into my I'll go into so it wasn't till the morning. Yeah, and then everyone's sober. And just the dude walks in and sees my friend and just is like,
the next door neighbor What the fuck?
And he's nerd in the show with a sheet over
try to do that after logging on. It's not quite the same but she was naked and she went out into the hallway thinking it was the toilet and then locked herself.
Jealous for try? Try being living at your parents? Are there certain rules that you have to like if you
play more than I am sure so you're okay. I used to like I'd come home from being out and I think I've got to be really respectful and quiet and then I look out through our kitchen and they would still be out on our back taking with all of their friends and family.
Full on is it every weekend direction is busy everyone can just put it in context mom said to me yesterday she's like nothing on this weekend I said oh that's not relax and she
was the bozos yeah man is bad to patent Josh for kids that people that do drink they start young and just keep going.
What I did I can relate. Yeah, in a different way. Yeah, I think there's a higher reward for drink. Like I think it's more of an intense drug than 100% is that sugar This is accessible in the moment and it's not too boo to be fuckin
eating this it just got to know when to stop like I have a very good apart from you and getting into people's beds.
Like I know if I'm one more drink that's gonna take me over Yeah,
I will look after my so the tipping over what is the tipping over? What does that mean?
I'm just getting too weird. Just like okay, I'm
what is that default? What is the default weed?
It's happening. Yeah,
you just need to hit it loud and
the people become like sex history and stuff. Well not really. Let's become what kind of person they are. Some people have fun when they're drunk. But there's more fighting when there's when people are drunk it's a horrible Yeah, there's less impulse Yeah, I thought I've been in most likely I was drinking we're just like people I'm waiting.
You're always pushing Wade
was like the smell of Wade
It smells like tomatoes smells like in a cheap America all I'm saying I'm not pushing it All I'm saying is like there's probably less people being violent or sexual from the drug of marijuana. Then there is from alcohol but alcohol is legal which is a with public service announcement.
And Gemma k drink daily
talk show replays
anything exciting that people should keep an eye out for? Guess I just follow you on the gram. Yeah,
I'm just posting heaps of events in the next month. Right to for our money coming up some very fancy now.
Amani, what did I do?
everything that I'm doing on money, beauty. Cool.
I think I think we didn't even talk about the perfumes.
Oh, you know, you didn't talk about what happened to the book. Wasn't that happening today?
gonna be yellow, pink pink. Talk Show. The book the book is to be as I said to brain that was part of my jam this morning a little bit. Man when I brought it up the other day in the poker. This morning. I said to her, I'm just I'm not doing anything. I'm not doing my walking. I haven't been to the gym. I've been like,
Your voice sounds like your
And I said and like I haven't done the Seth Godin book. I said what I'm going to do the Seth Godin book, I'm going to donate the money instead. But I'm going to do it and have it done. I'm going to plan out five pages a day get it done. And then in March
and I'm not going to talk about it on the podcast
that's if that's fine.
Don't worry about law boat
i'm not i'm wearing a different brand that I can't pronounce.
The only thing I can smell normal like
the brand though. I feel like you're talking about 33 by 10, Chile, Taiwan 29.
But Armani, Armani, Armani
perfume I can't gronk to Delhi talk to everyone will will see you Monday. Yeah.
Friday. Yes it is. We will see you Monday. Say guys
by the way.