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It's the daily talk show. Episode 582. Yep.

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Oh, Sunday. weekend Banta. Gemma, what's a second time for the first half of the year? Surely not first. year it would be first. Yeah. Last time was the Craig Yeah. First time to the crazy there was a time that I was stressed that I was not officially a friend of the show.

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My head I am i don't know if i told you this, but someone was giving some different suggestions around what we could do with the show. And they said,

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No, they said, Have you thought about Gemma doing full time in the show? You did tell me that. And I was like, Yeah, awesome. I've got 35 other businesses. It does disregard that a little bit Bobby for the best what goes through your mind when we say come on the show rippa

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not only

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It goes through my mind at any given time.

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Yeah, me get a Red Bull.

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I've never bought a Red Bull but this is the first Red Bull I've ever bought. It says true. I just wanted to get fired up. Now I like it is we're pre recording this tonight we have the dress code Emily, what do we the SP event? We're speaking at a fundraising event. Yes. The bushfires? Yep. Jim is headlining, we're all headlining. I do want to say that you know, it sounds a bit wonky via sitting here in a fucking bowl gown. Okay, this is wonky. Whoa, whoa, Tommy did the thing that he did? I think even before Episode 500 Are you laughing because you know what it is?

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What are you laughing about? Bringing together communities for the Australian bushfire relate? That's exactly what I said. That's what I said. Yeah. We all said

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yes. Be anyway. Yes. But yeah, technically the subject on the event is done. Yeah, it was right.

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Such a good job can't believe that we weren't cancelled.

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No one's cancelled it fundraising. I liked that joke he made at the start. Yeah, that was good.

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It went really well. So glad that you didn't bring up the paedophile. I'm glad I didn't either. We'll get to that on today's.

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If you were saying, Are you there was something that you did tell me before the show before at 500, the live show? And you said it again, for this one and you picked up that you're doing it and then you tried to correct and then realise, you know, it wasn't maybe you weren't trying to correct. I don't know like God now. It's conversation. Yeah. Now he said, it was just how you you getting a haircut. He said that to me? Yeah, I said that. But I think that in your head internally, there was a little bit of thing of maybe maybe that's maybe this could be triggering and then you're like, Oh, I'm thinking of getting one and then it was worse because it's like, you're implying that if you're getting one I should get one.

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Now we both didn't get one or did you get one? I didn't get a haircut. Good haircuts are so different for boys, aren't they? Well, I mean, what I don't know if you do you have any friend that if you said are you getting your hair cut for an event like Oh, are you getting something done for an event? You're getting a spray tan for an event? Yeah, I would. I wouldn't take hot that would take it super personally like it's some lot of like, if I don't I'm making you look dumb.

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I've never thought if any of them would take it personally. You don't have a friend like Josh that will tell you well maybe I'm a sheep friend. I'm I feel like Tommy's whole thing is like Oh man, I don't want to get a haircut look too good if

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it's like doing you a favour I don't want to like create too much disparity with it. You know what the problem is? I

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shouldn't even if I don't you still make up a story about that. He didn't get one to make me feel better about myself. Because the other way

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like you saying I looked down

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like you saying that I look she No, I just thought

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That I thought you thought you were doing me a favour but hey bro just saying oh, I'm thinking of getting a haircut so maybe it's so funny how it can be taken like that can you tell them what you thought? what you said about the business partner and not wanting are you sir I said once well it was because you were very obsessed with my diet

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now you

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are obsessed and

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he was getting in

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he was getting annoyed that I was having dark chocolate in the mornings

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Why are you annoyed? It's not the dark chocolate but this is why the conversation in the obsession around the conversation this is like what's the conversation non stop talk about diets and dieting

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100

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more empathetic now like I actually knowing you more now I understand where all comes from. It was like a over a year ago that we had the fight and so that

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said the

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reason you're so controlling about my eating is because you don't want to fat business partner

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to find five Was it a five or disagreement but

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five, and I just thought was the most outrageous thing I've ever had because I would have never once thought in my head that I never want to like it's an amazing because I hadn't thought that thought ever. Which is funny because

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I thought people only being friends with a hot paper. Well, you only have friends that have models.

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But no, we It's funny how even the perception after I said, I said it, what you thought and what I felt because I was like, man, those words stood in the air as truth that we both know. Tommy had finally realised how he felt.

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My the way I go with those kind of stories is that if you It's because you can easily fall back on you to go that you even like How dare you think that I would even think about

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It's like

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yeah, it's I want I would never think that and if I didn't say I am offended that you think that I would think that

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I found it amusing that you would even think that I think that is part of the bit is how I dealt with it but it was it was interesting and it's totally true I had a

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falling out with friends lightly No no, I'm actually being super empathetic in 2020 after that you would know my word is I

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know my word is enjoy because I feel like I didn't like I just rush through everything. Last year like I haven't celebrated Mecca land and that was in May. I lack all these good things happened. And I didn't allow myself time to sit in that and just breathe and be like, give myself a pat on the back. What does it look like to uh, to enjoy something? Well, I mean, I think by what Joshua is clinging

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to my mama. She looks like you're not enjoying him.

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You can't possibly enjoy it with how quickly you're writing. Well, I saw I said, it's one of my girlfriends and she was like, Oh, so you know, having a dinner or a party? And I'm like, No, no, just giving myself a morning off. Yeah. And just sitting. And so but if you were to not thinking Sorry, I should say not thinking about what the next thing is, because that's what I was doing. Last year, I got home from Mecca land. And instead of just having a day of reflecting and thinking about how great it was, I'm straight on the phone to my manager, like okay, what are we going to do next? Next Next future? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's such a, it's a habit that's formed. And so how do you how are you going to break that habit? Because you need I mean, gratitude or some kind of ritual around writing shit down. I think I'm going to do that Five Minute Journal that always raves about Alex and Mimi icon, you know, they're crowded. Yes. And Pete's into it before we had the money. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, I think I'm going to do that. You can also save the cash and just

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Dumb just riding on anything yeah but I really like rituals. He's the guy that buys everything like you need a

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hypocrite

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yeah

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I saw the words

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no but you know the reason I think maybe I'm projecting because after I told myself on my own nearly bought one two and we should buy some for the business

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Let's buy Let's buy one

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oh no this is perfect. No Gemma, I have your amazon gift voucher at home. Oh heaven excellent sorry

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it's at my house. Oh, it's all good. You're finding

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this sacred story

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when you go fill that fall when we get to feel the pole Yeah, we get to drain a little bit more and then I mean some is cup but yeah.

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Yeah, right yeah.

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Sorry about the biscuits. I actually

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just scooty day listen to every episode. Yes, I thought so. But I had a call with him the other day he had a court sound like we he's an investor as I know I was speaking to him on the phone and call with me this morning. Yeah, exactly. And but I when I was speaking to him I just assumed that he'd heard the latest EP and he's like, oh man, I'm sorry. It was very embarrassed that he hadn't heard it but yeah, he listens. I'm not being I'm shortbread. If anything give me a favour I love chocolate so that's good. It's very close.

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By like that it's very well anyway back to you.

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Let's get you the job can miss nice even buy it with your card so you don't have to do any add my so I don't have to go to his house. How am I gonna get my flask. He'll bring it I can get it sent to my house and then you can use all the road so that we can use her shipping. What? Ah, that's a good point

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on it.

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Yeah, strapped if we put it so but not but do we use the gift you are trying your prime account? Yeah, we can take this offline if you are, yeah. Anyway, so if you have this, that my hair looks great and then I look at myself with the headphones on my man, headphones ruins it. And we can actually get eventually it would be nice for you to have your own pair of headphones. I do, like moulding or whatever. And my face is much like Jason PJ, I okay. I don't have a problem with it, but I've just, it's fine. You look like a DJ. I am Jay Jay. DJ Jay was That was my DJ name. And

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I didn't do that with a couple of you microphone. I didn't DJ but I reckon I've told the story on here before we used to.

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Myself and my friend, Michael Patten, who's friends with Hayden Dean. It's a small world. When we were in year 12. We organised the seventh verse teachers dodgeball, to get the seven

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into this school culture of us no way would just stand behind two big amplifiers and plug our iPods in and stand there with headphones on that weren't plugged into anything. And just do this without hand and play songs that had already been remixed and the sevens black wall is such good day, Jay. Funny.

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Yes, but the sevens took it very seriously. And when like, they're incredible. That hasn't happened when you wasted within your 20s so I've since learned that on New Year's I did a full performance for about 20 minutes. Yeah, when I owned it. Yeah, well, the whole thing. This one that's on YouTube, right? No, unlisted YouTube the one I sent Yes.

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Or no brand damaging, but you know what? Let's get to the brand damage that has been done over the last couple of weeks. You've done some damage control. Oh, ok. So this was it was it was actually the was

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Talk Show Facebook group that alerted me to it. And if you guys, anyone listening who haven't joined the daily talk show Facebook group, so otherwise we've only got 190.

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Getting in if you don't Yes, because there's

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there's six paid, there's six people who haven't answered the questions that need to be contacted. One of you says I live at the Big Sur, I think it's spam. Or take spam. If they can answer the questions. Yeah, you get on to them.

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Anyway, by the way, someone I screen grabbed, that you actually you'll laugh Hang on. I will laugh both of you, I think. No pressure. Well, I always think that's a terrible that was just someone who likes to set off Gerald as the Queen gronk No, like sorry for the spelling. And that was another announcement I'm gonna make. I was like it was close enough. So they in the UK over the weekend, Saturday evening, out time, a paedophile a female

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About 21 years old in the UK was convicted of sexually assaulting they think like 50 teenage girls named Gemma What? We had a fall was named you know? Yeah 59

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Yes, sir. Her name was Gemma was spelt with a G everything so that that was a fun. So

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do you have Google Alerts? I don't like Google. What are you doing? Whenever my photo was black down the bottom, but it's back up towards the top now thank Christ. That's a good photo to

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the daily totals of the one with the white. So I think it's the white so cuz that was one vote and if you guys know I'm okay. Um, yeah, so that's, I mean, it's not ideal, but I think it's pretty clear that we're two different people. It's, I think it's fine, because it's the identical name, then people obviously see the photo

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I mentioned being cold Epstein at the moment. Yeah. And if you had a family member called Jeffrey

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you're gonna stop fucking eating those loud

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because

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you're eating and I thought that it's only my

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that's why you can hear it so well. But what are some other names?

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I got there were a few I got a few weed Facebook friend requests probably should send them off to clubs. No one came to me on twitter a few Instagram comments and DMS being like a you in jail now it's like yeah, I am and then I got an email or they want a couple of emails but one that made me laugh because it was a link to a BBC article. And then the

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in the body of the email said

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you need to let the world know that this isn't you Gemma, what is a paedophile and

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I just came out back Hey, thanks, you can send I think most people are aware given that we live on a bit side opposite sides of the world at different ages and share zero physical similarities. So interesting that like people really think that it's going to be like a joke, but it's gonna be an issue. It's an aspect of

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people still paying the money. The annoying thing about Google Alerts, there's a firefighter in California. That's obviously worked his way up to the ranks to the point where he gets to be quoted a lot. So there was a vape pen that exploded. And then he went out to find Josh Janssen. No, no, like, it was just like, obviously, comments about the situation. Yeah, if I find it, and so it was just Josh Janssen. You know, the firefighter, Fire Chief Fire Chief. Chief Janssen. Yes, stunning producer by Chief Jay. And so it's very annoying though, because he's just, I actually passed it on to john Safran. I might have my

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I'm kicking notified with this. Why do we

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say okay oh yeah, we're doing our first colour clinco and I did this on my side no first I think second Oh

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yeah, I'm gonna say pink. Yes I Greg I'm not even hungry but for the site green yellow either 123 What did I say?

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Pretty good.

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You get to it another lovely Josh.

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Oh, they're all yours

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what are the names have been severely tarnished. Very fun topic. I mean,

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what's more fun hearing you a good laugh, man, Hitler, you can be called Hitler and add off Hitler. Is there any other Hitler's in the world? I just changed it straight away. Wouldn't you change it? You would I mean, Trump changed his. It wasn't Trump and you look at Trump funded Donald Trump wasn't Trump up a drum.

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Trump

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the best hand was the best hat was. He's not an honest guy. You love this make Donald Trump again. Oh, that's funny. It was really funny. Okay, I love it. Yeah. Do you do you can share much of the news? Yes, I do. Because I watch SNL. That's probably my favourite show. So I need to be across the US politics for the SNL jokes make sense to be commitment then. Yeah, I spent a lot of time really deep diving into the Democratic debate. So it doesn't matter whether because you'll be getting a swipe view if you just look at why I mean, I don't mind us wide.

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Guys, okay, so you were saying the other day that we're probably looking at the more progressive view like the the left is view we make the judge funnier. It does. Most of them are attacking guys like Trump and all of them. Yeah, I'm the guy that I get on that

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radio

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Time Yeah, yeah, that was that good article four days ago today about um, podcast Facebook groups. Oh, yeah. Yeah, there's one in Pete's Facebook group. Yeah, I was. I saw it and I was all ready to send. Yeah. Jazz.

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Explain. Oh, it's just an article about Nina and shameless got mentioning it about a will we'll just put it in the show notes but it was about podcasts having Facebook groups and how they're not just for about podcast. Yeah.

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It's where the community Yeah, the gronk squad. Yeah, I did say shameless post that

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that's not bad. How come we do a better job with our group? You're asking the wrong gal. I haven't started a good channel. Great because I don't want to what about an agent but surely there's you know, when you're in the group, you say Derek's very active. Yes. I don't I don't know. I don't think you need to do doing Mars necessarily.

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I think a group is a good thing. I'm just not doing it because I'm not a part of any beauty groups on Facebook because I will say like the occasional beauty question pop up in shameless. And there's so much misinformation. And it just frustrates me so much. So if I was the admin for a group where that conversation was happening, I would just lose my mind does what what other what other groups have thriving is their beauty groups that are huge? Yes. Yeah. The one for the Mamma Mia. UBD podcast is huge, because that's, I mean, I could be wrong, but I feel like their audience is sort of slightly older women that are new to beauties. They've got a lot of questions, isn't it so modern day having the problem of stressed about managing a Facebook? Oh, yeah, I mean, it will probably

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be when I was in probably year 1112. And people would try to come up with funny things.

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Friends did one that went Berzerk It was like all big tits and guns and she misses wouldn't like there was a page called that right so, oddly enough wasn't that one it was something like all pressing the button on the remote control harder instead of replacing the

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one I try not to come up with our own version of that now what he tried to go viral it's not going to go viral. It's the the if I play the game of what creating a page are we talking about something that you do something like basically like that would have been a great Facebook page?

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I mean, a likes page. Have I just spotted a madman bag? Yes. Yeah, that's the love that you've kept it. That's the famous mittman back 97 thinking about putting that video on the Facebook group. Yeah. What is it? It's a private the Facebook. I have sued you guys for it couldn't get through it. What do you mean?

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Got an hour and a half years you're I mean you watch more than anybody watch today I mean yeah i mean i don't know how many people were raising baby yeah three hours my drunk and watched probably an hour I think was way better what we need to do is dynamic time codes within the title seconds going

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Josh having a Tandy Josh Janssen Mason at jumped at Tommy hiding gummies like I think it's just like a What do you call it there's a lot of blows going like a blue it's not even affecting me I need to find the moments cuz then it's just a little little choose your own adventure. The moment it can choose your own adventure. It's great fun. Did you guys do that Black Mirror episode that it was no I've only watched one which was the I think it was the social where I just know that she couldn't get a rental car or whatever I had to get a real shitty one because she she never

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stopped stop which is literally just the velocity rewards.

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Sean just calling me like what do you mean that can't get into the fucking lounge, there was a standalone episode that was a Choose Your Own Adventure on Netflix. It never ending so it can go for either 15 minutes and you die. Or it can go for like an hour and a half. Really and you you I think the options are either you die or you end up like super unhappy. Okay, that sounds about right. Anyone using the internet? Yeah, I mean as the Queen gronk Have you been following the Royals news? Yeah, as a staunch Monica stick No, I actually really liked the royal family but I'm like get get out of there. Yeah, I needed to escape. Right is that pop culture bit? Yeah. Next

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that Well, it's interesting. Like I was

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saying headlines Yeah, I've started to like fall into that all like what's going on? Whoo. Oh, they're moving to Canada. Oh, I saw something about they're gonna make a quarter of a billion dollars in

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Next, something is Reba low, but I didn't understand it. So they've left. Can you just do a quick breakdown for people that don't actually you can be a royal Porter. I mean, I don't want to get anything wrong. But basically the way the structure of the royal family is that if you are a senior member of the royal family, you have obligations and you have to make public appearances and also you get an allowance is the wrong word, but you don't put on work, necessarily.

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Sophie, if you step away from that, back on, Prince Philip is no longer like doing royal engagements because he's about 100 and dead. So Harry and Megan have alack now, I'm probably done which is a Duchess of York. of the any of the Duchess. They get Duchess of York is Fergie. Is that not? Yeah, but I'm just saying. So the region for York, wherever it is, yeah, they get the property tax.

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From the town yes you say they get all of that oh, this is young king look it up nice

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a young kid that just inherited like inner city Soho that all area inherited

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and he gets all the taxis like an instance. And so what's the deal? He got a missus not sure with

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many I mean the whole royal thing I want to really likes but I had a friend staying Amy's Amy's best mates the guy who I met Amy. She was travelling with him in Bali when I met her for the first time. Okay and lovely guy lives over in London. And he's like I've been reading books like he understood he's got a grabs me with my dad's pretty good on it and the Royal embrace what's on the show? It is so late. Like I was like why did they even start and event I can't even remember the questions like Will it ever finished like are they

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The Queen actually doesn't have say she it everything goes to her but she can't say no. Because it's all like the status thing. She can't be knocking back things that are coming some weird thing like it's very similar to it's all it's all fucking bizarre. What's the thing called that we went we went to a referendum to say if we should become independent or what's that called? We did yeah. As in breakfast there's no Australia so it's like to move away from the Commonwealth has that I think that's just something that they talk about when you do the Vote Compass that you guys talked about the other day? I'm pretty sure

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that we did it. What's it called? I think we had a referendum sometime in Australia and we're still in the coma. Yeah. And and there was more people that select to come off. What's the benefit of leaving the Come come yet? I don't know. What's the benefit of living? Can't live in New Zealand. I just love the UK. So I'm like stay. Can you find out? Surely what is that cold urine. The Independent thing is in other words, don't we

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Republic Republic Thank you. See, not as silly as she looks want to be. And so the SNL stuff that you watch. When did you get into SNL? Oh, high school. You download it? It's on foxtel but I'll download it because it's like a week or two lives

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don't make sense. Can we have a viewing at your place when barefoot wouldn't list his documentary comes out? Yes, we can be good. Yeah, we're not there. Oh, yeah, we're in it. Well, we don't know if

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you're definitely in it. You're I can, but I'm putting business

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that when someone makes the joke about you that you hang on, that's my Yeah. That's my insecure

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about anyone outside of this. Josh is such a wonderful defence mechanism to make a joke about the thing you're insecure.

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About today when someone else jump started my life yeah I'm so annoying not me call yourself out

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control the narrative you self just cancel yourself oh good matter of time what else is happening? What's on your mind Gemma what's like what is like I know you say not much but what's on your mind? What's the biggest challenge for you at the moment um time management because my whole thing for these years that I was going to like actually give myself time to enjoy things where two weeks into the new year and I have already over committed myself so now my thought process is why do I keep doing this? There's a probably unpopular thought around time management that it's, it's not managed time is time it's there. It's 24 hours a day, we don't change it. prioritisation, then that word itself is priority is singular. And when people say I want to prioritise

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bunch of things we can only create

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prioritise one thing at a time. And so once you can know, what are your priorities, what are your priorities and your list of three? It's like

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isn't priority one it? Isn't it just an individual? Yeah, I guess you can go in and out of different priorities. Yeah, but we're going to look at them individually. So how do you get better at managing time if you're gonna call it that like well the obvious thing is to say no to more things, but I'm already quite good at that. I think I just got a little bit here

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now

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Yeah, but if I didn't if I didn't want to pop in I buddy wouldn't um yeah, I don't know. I think I'm good at saying no to things but I just I don't know I think I just got a bit carried away the start of the year. But what about if we look at it as if

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you What if you didn't have the thought about being like worrying about what you need to do in the time like if you are because that when you have nothing on time

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management is no problem, because you're not doing anything. When you're doing lots. And when you're not doing anything you feel like you should be. Yeah, you're actually doing a lot. And it's contributing to where you're going. So I you, are you actually doing the right stuff? I believe that I am. So what if you would, I think I've really streamlined that. But I think you know what, I think it's that thing we'd like when you're in school and use it too much chocolate.

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That's fine. I think it's that thing when you're in school or in uni, and you're like, all of my assignments do at once. That's how I'm feeling at the moment. So I may I'll be right. I'm happy to wait. And so what do you do in those moments? Like, what's it? How do you feel control for me? I ride a mouse. I write a list of what needs to be done first. What is urgent as opposed to Yeah, yeah. What about why can you make that whole thing of like, Don't make other people's emergency what's that saying? serves it don't make other people's emergencies your own. Yeah, but Sunday exact, quite

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There's somebody you're, you're

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not my, your modem is not my emergency. Yeah, sure. unless that person with the emergencies, you apply an exact grade to get something done my diet. I just think, what about deadlines? deadlines are always hard. I always say like, Are we going to get like, we're optimists. And so we set like we and we want to feel fit in as much as possible. And so Parkinson's Law tells us we feel the time that we allocate it to it. So you give yourself a lot of time. It takes that amount of time. Yeah, the small amount of time. Yeah. So then we give ourselves a small amount of time, so gets it done really effectively. But then other shit happens and you get another email. And yeah, that's, that's where I'm at. Right in this moment, because I work way better. I'm depressed. I'm far more productive when I know. Okay, deadline is in five minutes. Yeah. But then, you know, as you exactly what you've just said, something else pops up and then you'll act okay.

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What's almost like a hacking by making it a short period of time? You're hacking the prioritisation. Yeah. Because then you have to be single focus. You have to put all your energy. It's the splitting of focus, which is hard. Yes. If we've got one client job, it's a lot easier to do than if we have 10 client jobs in regards to managing, huh? Yeah. I also think like Jocelyn says, it's got you fired up as I stand. What it wasn't happening. Gemma, what's this fired up? Jules Lund, quiet sort of high pressure, anxious about his performance with a that's come from doing TV where he's like, nail it. He's obsessed about it. But it translates. And so I always and I said, Do you think there's another way of doing this? And his answer may be different now, but I remember him saying not because it works. So when the problem with it though, is because I spoke to Craig Harper, about him. We're just discussing that mindset people have have like I've done it this way. It works out

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But it doesn't always have to be like, Huh, the reality is it doesn't have to be the crazy pressure on yourself. Yeah, you just think it is the way that you need to do it because it works. Yeah. So either way, you've done it as well. And we talked about like, batching emails and meetings, and she didn't. And so if you actually did that, we just never give this stuff enough time. Like, this week I did one day where I kind of like, consolidate my efforts and shot out 20 and had 20 emails with conversations and got bunch of good stuff out of it. And I was thinking, What if there was one day of the week, that doesn't mean you don't get back to me. But you create this snowball on one day, that then next week, I'm doing the snowball again, trying to build the snowball to throw to roll Well, you need to pick it up like it because I find that sometimes I'll have those really effective days and I'll get back to hate like people that's like, Oh my god, like, I go down to the bottom of my inbox. I'm like, oh, there's an email from like three months ago. I'm gonna run

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Back to them do this really big apologetic like, I'm so sorry about this. I'm getting back to it. And then they get back to me. And then I don't get back to say a mouse. I'm good on okay, but it doesn't seem like a big time thing

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in freelance business or your own business here that you spending time doing relationship building over email, and chasing up and trying to get clients and so when you have a job going, Yeah, it makes sense. You just get back it's like the project serves to say no more.

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But I think what's helped me with that is having a manager because that's give it a lackey for something Instagram related or something to read the blog roles in. I just forwarded on to her reply but say say hurry in and then it's out of my hands. And that's given me why more time to focus on the creative business and the podcast. Are you getting to

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sponsorship for your podcast? Yeah, yeah, we monetized it probably six months ago. Oh, that's good. Yeah. That's good. Just Yeah. What do you think the trends are for? 2020?

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You want to ask more specific beauty trends? Yeah. Talk to us. Like what is the I know your shadow?

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I don't I'm not actually very good on trends. I'm more on

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product. Sure. Because I am more fascinated by the science of things and what works and what doesn't isn't really changing that much. Yes. Yeah. Mike was hugely old tech is a huge part of beauty now. So there's like the foreo stuff where Yeah, but what about like, the foundation that you wore five years ago? was actually different. I mean, brands working out, say ingredients that work in skincare and then putting them into makeup products, then you've got colour cosmetics with benefits of skincare. But then there are ways because a certain

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Molecules don't work together. So there are a lot black. There are scientific breakthroughs that allow those things to work so so it's combining aesthetic with like actual utilitarian active ingredients. Yeah. Is there more garbage? Yes, yeah. Yeah, it's it's an exciting time for niche beauty brands because you can pretty much launch anything now. Thanks to Instagram quickly. Yes. But I also think if you products crap, yes, you can make a tonne of money quickly. If you marketing strategies good and you know, maybe you've stated it out to the right people. But then those people aren't gonna make a repeat purchase. So you make a demand on the first purchase but they're not going to come back unless the products good. What about like saturation? So things like Frank bodies grab. There were first. I don't know if that first did probably definitely went first to market but first to scale to the size. And so they did that. Yeah. Because if people weren't doing some kind of a scrub involved coffee, they just packaged it in my

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Yeah, so they they win whatever they capitalise on social media is people say look for the gap in the market is the gaps, anything that you can see within the beauty industry? None that I have seen because if I saw one I would be watching something it would lead to New York. Yeah. Like you these conversations with product developers. I there are ample opportunities for me to either collaborate with a brand or launch my own brand but I I just don't like to do things for the sake of doing the thing. What would be a product that you would potentially like what category Do you think it wouldn't be anything to do with black eye makeup because I just don't care about it. It would be something skin. Even if it wasn't skincare, it would be like complexion. So I the foundation highlighter recent 10 Hennessy's range. Now, I haven't said 10 Hennessy, who's on. I'm a celebrity Get me out of here at the moment. I think it's called bread. It's all different shades of bread colour.

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It's a show

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He's done a collaboration Mr. Sabes. Can you look that up the cup collection? Okay.

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Well, yeah, and it's not a brand but I mean, so your mind would have to be something about skin because glow channel's all about. Yeah. glowing. But then does it have to be nation like different? Yeah, cuz otherwise what's the point? I think I think the point is that you can be the C brand. You don't have to be a neighbour like not number two is pretty fucking good. You don't have to like Yeah, but if you're just copying something that exists already, I don't think the Pepsi

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I never want to be not a Pepsi fan. There's a problem with Pepsi, but I just don't want my name on a product that is not like, original. It's hard though. Because what's original? Well, I think in the beauty space, people will pull out anything that's on original. If you copy it, you probably don't realise because you're not like a beauty consumer. But if you're doing something

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that's fact what highlighter he got on.

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Blend 43

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It's a coffee shade

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within so what about good What about you building your brand? And it becomes big enough that people want to have a product that you've put your name to it but I don't think they're going to unless it's something new. What do you think about dry shampoo? I had the best so the one concern I will bro doesn't like me using it because it leaves a film on the in the bathroom Dude, I think you're not allowed in the bathroom. They can't shave kinda dry shampoo. Do you need to start? Yeah, so Bray says it creds dust.

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She's pretty full on when it comes to dust and so but I also wonder about the long term effects of using dry shampoo and capsule Yeah, from a scalp health point of view.

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No idea it's fine I use it all the time and I feel like every second day

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I don't know my head I don't really get oily. What the fuck are we worried about? What am I worried about?

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Like people have been using the shift forever.

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Gentlemen Hey jail well people used to use talcum powder before. You could just buy a dry shampoo and a can swear soccer we worried more about it. But who do you know that is?

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I mean, something from using spray on deodorant like where what is the real like when we talk about natural stuff?

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Who in this world can you look at I mean you want a shot give it that's that's a niche. That's exactly what it is. If you want to believe all these dry shampoo is a you know going to ruin my scalp you're googling is dry shampoo going to ruin my scalp and you will find something if you look hard enough you

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ruin their scalp you will find an opinion that aligns for it. I would be the guy you know

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Like if anyone was going to get this scalper one through dry shampoo then it could be any number of fact Yes, that's true. You have just been thinking about a bit like I wonder whether

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Do you find that it's better for you than washing your hair like if I it because I have to wash my hair? Yes it is. Okay. Because if you wash your head too much you stripping the scalp of its natural oils and what is the dry one day? The dry running now the dry one kind of soaks up the excess? Because it's not really yeah, I could use it was my understanding of it. I feel like my hair like it would know your dusty you smell it smells good wash on Sunday. Oh, I do. Like you don't need to wash your scalp. But over washing it's the same as over washing your face or like scrubbing. You should grab the hair like with nothing. I am gonna have a scalp scrub. Hey, stop right by user like yeah, I use a comb. The barber gave me like a one of those circular comb but that's the only thing you do in this

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Kind of

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what it was like but you wet your head under and just scrub it back and forth. It's like that thing last year that people were talking about do you wash your legs in the shower or not? Yes, sometimes if I get down there or it just naturally the soap matters why they will say I want I I reckon we had this conversation now when I share with Bodie quite a bit. It's much easier now than making him a bath. He just jumped in with me. Yeah.

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My legs you gotta maintain hot Yeah, it's hard when he had

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to what like do you use a loafer? Do you have a loofa? No, I just use I use if I'm have if I have to shave I use them like a boss. But I usually choose body lotion and hand does your shower have a squeegee or not? It does. So

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how often do you do squeeze it down? And do you squeeze your entire Yes.

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There is a bunch of dormant squeezing that does. It could be put to good use.

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Anyway, good sir. Are you having a few drinks tonight before you host the thing? Are you before you do your bit? Am I never bubbles? I like bubbles before hosting just makes it sound cute. makes it sound bad to me just a cute gal. Gentle delicate flower some of you come up with any job we're talking about. No, I don't think I just don't think he should script a joke. No, just let it happen. What do you

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think the nanners one is funny? Yeah. For the daily talk show audience button you must keep in mind there's also a glow general audience and a lady brains which is perfect because it's the thing you do. I want it to be the tick for Josh. It's working every time my journal audience is ready. Now. Interact. I think that will be team players and family is not ready for I think Jalen brace would think it was funny with the counselling and stuff. Can you just let them know just have some fun stuff.

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Done because they know they know

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Really funny.

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I can't even remember. It was so. Okay

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What is it? What did you say that you said you guys will think this is really I have no recollection. Yeah, I've lost it. Do you

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say

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he forgot he didn't even hear it on the show you, which is now? Oh yeah, no it was the spelling of Gemma.

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Jared Gerald. Oh, yeah, that was a good joke. Yeah, it was good. Feel good to be honest. I'm wearing a tiara. Yeah.

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But I'm dressed like a fucking balls

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it's uh yeah dressing like I've just got this stand like this. He's wearing shorts.

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I'm not I'm wearing my runas I'm wearing my runas I do what you want

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to have a handheld? Yes No ronk out baby.

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Uncle talk show.

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will say tomorrow saving the

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Facebook group so yeah, we do something cool on the Facebook group. Yeah. Any ideas? thoughts, feelings concerns.

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Now, okay, okay, sounds good chat soon tomorrow say goodbye